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0:00 - Intro
0:51 - Trump is an honest man
10:40 - Anti-Trump Republicans are Democrats in disguise
28:56 - The 2020 election was rigged
43:27 - Trump has ruined democracy
58:55 - If Trump loses, Jan. 6 will be repeated
01:14:26 - Biden has a better chance of winning the election than Trump

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[@FerretCuddles]

When you say "spot media bias", are you referring to things like the WikiLeaks files on Israel controlling Hollywood through people like Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein? Or just run of the mill corruption like the ties between Pfizer and Reuters?

[@Justcatc]

Oh

[@WhyWorldWet]

Poor moderator, I feel for him. Lols Also…as a Canadian…he does look like Trudeau! Doppelgänger! Wow.

[@Cassanthropy]

I feel for the moderator but I wish we could have heard from 3 main people trying to be the loudest.

[@lemon4087]

@@WhyWorldWet i think people who watch this have torture kink😔😔 maybe i do

[@benoconnor7034]

Moderating this episode is truly an awful punishment

[@alexgee3072]

And dude sucks at it. Real need someone to fact check claims in real time

[@IronBrigadeStudios]

​@@alexgee3072 they fact checked them on the video, it would make it really disjointed to, after every prompt, have someone come in with fact checks cause then it would cause the guests to debate the fact checkers vs the other side of the issue

[@benoconnor7034]

@@IronBrigadeStudiosYeah I agree. I feel like the moderator’s job is just to keep the conversation respectful and balanced.

[@TheRealLeewon]

@@alexgee3072”Jamie, pull that up for me”

[@space3934]

@@alexgee3072yes. This dude sucks.

[@carolinemusselwhite]

you’re immediately losing the argument when you feel the need to go for personal attacks

[@phanatic215]

A lady was late, so apparently her opinion isn't valid. These people don't even believe themselves.

[@grubarmy2872]

​@phanatic215 why take anything she says at face value when she can't even value other people's time and be punctual.

[@phanatic215]

@@grubarmy2872 that doesn't make her opinions less valid. She was late. If a doctor shows up late for work, are you not going to trust them to do your exam?

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

So all I have to do is make a theist personally attack me and his whole religion is debunked? Nice.

[@CyndeLooWho]

@@phanatic215Um that “lady” was the most vile of all. She’s so important that she can make people wait for two and half hours and no one is supposed to be upset about it? I see.

[@celetial3287]

“how are you a republican if you vote for a democrat” she’s essentially saying she will blindly vote for her party no matter what…literally part of the problem

[@gold_ram_5.780]

Democrats vote blue no matter who

[@batdruul]

@@gold_ram_5.780id vote third party if it wasn't a throwaway :'(

[@celetial3287]

@@gold_ram_5.780 some. i’m not saying this as a republican vs democrat thing, i’m saying it as a people like her vs mature people thing

[@jonholzworth4463]

​@@gold_ram_5.780yes. There are people in both parties who put party over country.

[@bigz5262]

⁠@@batdruul a third party vote is not a throw away

[@everglide15]

the dude in the suit is the epitome of trying to act too smart. everything from his hand gestures to asking a question then immediately interrupting feels so ungenuine

[@paulg6274]

He's a poser. Classic example of feigned strength = weakness

[@itsmealyssajaye7791]

He was spitting facts

[@Hektop1]

I was cringing so hard

[@KP-hi1om]

I agree - then he went hard with personal attacks. Then that chick said he wasn't Black. Crazy.

[@ascosche]

The black one or the white one???

[@sarahsays194]

At the beginning I thought popcorn will be needed. 30 minutes in I've grabbed alcohol.

[@SakshiYadav-lj3ib]

😂

[@GigiMurakami]

😭😭😭

[@Alexavian]

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@charlotteparker2051]

Literally cause omg

[@oliviagrasser7604]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@iamnotkira3683]

The way they HAVE to resort to attacking people’s appearance when someone disagrees with them is EMBARRASSING

[@resolute1922]

This!!!

[@beyond_the_tequila_rift3194]

Yup. Ad Hominem's during a debate, just exposes anyone as truly weak.

[@JohanDanielAlvarezSanchez]

Who snd when? 👀

[@mike2207]

@@JohanDanielAlvarezSanchezaround 27:00

[@Tortilla.Reform]

@@mike2207Thank you for that time code, very helpful

[@sandycheeks395]

Saying the word “emasculating” while being fully in drag is ridiculous

[@debrachilders3544]

That’s how his cult is

[@casaiyavelvet9481]

No literally 😂

[@CUP1D0N]

When did he say that? I missed it 😅

[@Cannabionic]

About as ridiculous as someone making claims about ridiculousness while simultaneously utilizing the name "sandycheeks" as a KZbin handle, and using her bikini picture as their profile picture. What a world.

[@glitterhands99]

I missed that but, why is that ridiculous? Someone in drag can still have an opinion based on their observation. Why would that be less valid? I live a wholly different lifestyle from him but I can agree with his observation completely, or disagree. Regardless, I would not invalidate his opinion based on a "dress code". That would just be ignorant and obtuse.

[@shubrototiizika6835]

This video should title: "A young kid debating 4 hard brainwashed cult"

[@Kmfgriffith]

a young kid with a heart condition*

[@zachfreedom644]

That kid was not debating cult members. He is not a republican. The musician I believe is a republican. But if he voting biden he was never a republican.

[@mattmorgan2534]

Terrible take

[@itsmealyssajaye7791]

“A young kid having no idea what he’s talking about for an hour and a half”*

[@a.m928]

​@@zachfreedom644 Colin powell didnt vote republican when thry were crazy

[@isabellacerak4745]

everytime the woman in the red blazer talks the fact check thing pop ups under her 😭😭

[@possum1093]

She should just wear a shirt that says "please fact check me"

[@Meg-z3r]

I wonder why? I had noticed the same thing what a pos.

[@whiteyonthemoon1193]

These "fact checks" have a dozen holes in them though. Anyone relying on them deserves their ignorance.

[@crybabezz.shadow808]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@queennica3319]

Wait does that mean she's lying 😭😭? I was here for the drama 😂😂

[@reversingmemories]

I will never understand people who go this hard for a politician.

[@slimdunkin117]

Cause there’s corruption at stake

[@bisonchicka]

Issa cult!

[@CJ-ly9wv]

Because the opposition is a person who enabled new wars and caused massive inflation that was avoidable

[@randygonzalez1375]

Then you must be rich n not affected by inflation gas prices groceries housing etc.

[@Megan-nk7yj]

For real... like get a life 😆

[@stephanielundquist1675]

Wow. This is how divided Republicans are. Let's see pro and anti Biden Democrats.

[@kokirikid6130]

Would love to see that as well.

[@fishtacos8522]

There is major division between both sides, and it definitely shows with the candidate choices

[@Vostruths]

It wouldn't even go half as bad as this lmao

[@Jasmine-ur9zw]

It wouldn’t go this bad because Biden isn’t the head of a cult. This video is just cultists vs republicans.

[@gamergal8220]

Would love that

[@marystravellife]

No one lets the young guy speak. Mirroring disrespectful behavior, wonder where they got that from

[@whiteyonthemoon1193]

He's a redditor lmao, why would he garner respect.

[@ryvulet8639]

they heard his first few points and decided he wasn't relevant to the discussion

[@marystravellife]

@@ryvulet8639 very disrespectful..

[@DearNurseLife]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@socalmotionYT]

He spoke the most.

[@ghulammohiudin6886]

I think everyone can agree American politics is one of the biggest clusterfucks in the world

[@OohLa118]

It’s pretty absurd he has such a large follower base. But at least you don’t have open fascists in the government like us over here in Europe 😔

[@Halcyon-kw8nj]

Politics is a reality show in America. Hollywood

[@lofkaninen3189]

@@OohLa118 cry about it

[@zayah01]

@@lofkaninen3189You’ll be crying when the orange oompa loompa loses in november 😂

[@niichigary8609]

Nah, other countries are worse

[@maynameismay]

"With all due respect you're 2.5 hours late so I really don't know what you have to say" How relevant to the conversation.

[@Ookashay]

Nah she's keeping it real 😅

[@FerretCuddles]

It's East Coast mindset vs worst coast attitude. Showing up late is showing disrespect to not only whoever's running a function, but anyone else that has to wait because of you.

[@maynameismay]

@@FerretCuddles I understand it's disrespectful but it's still petty and immature of her to bring it up so randomly just to have made a passive aggressive comment. Also I don't think this has much to do with which side of the country you live in lol

[@FerretCuddles]

@@maynameismay Holding someone accountable for their actions isn't immature, child. Answering for what you do or don't is part of being an adult.

[@maynameismay]

@@FerretCuddles I agree that it's disrespectful but everything has a place. And its place certainly wouldn't be in that political discussion just to slam her.

[@user-ip7ys4xl1e]

Crazy how a skinny young kid is the one best capable of having a civil discussion here, how are those adults so immature ?

[@terrellbates1627]

They are Republicans…what did you expect?!

[@noelstar1456]

there's a large issue within the Republican party, which is that the younger generation of Republicans have MORALS, and probably would've been democrats 20 years ago.

[@thisuserlovesunsets]

He has no facts

[@eelsmcn9055]

Narcissism

[@thisuserlovesunsets]

@@eelsmcn9055 Who me?

[@valeriiaserr]

“melania shows more than i do” ate him up fr😭😭😭 im glad she spoke against his nonsense who does he think he is

[@gabriellamanley9779]

Haha yes I’m glad she stood up for herself

[@WizardMathmatics]

shes racist bro, she said ur so whitewashed u dont know how to act black anymore

[@WizardMathmatics]

how do u stand up for that

[@jefreestar]

unfortunately, that's not true. melanie used to show a lot in the earlier years, but not anymore.

[@cj.5632]

When she called out his blackness I screamed 😭😭😭

[@selmm2023]

Did that one guy just resort to body-shaming the three men to prove his point??? 💀 Nah that's when you know your point wasn't even that strong to begin with.

[@ethanweimer-kopf6907]

There are Insane and rude people on both sides of the political spectrum

[@zygon2918]

They failed the physiognomy test

[@BabyMaharaja0]

but the pro Biden woman race shaming is ok?

[@philipb3030]

Yes. I was waiting for the beta male debate to start up

[@me________]

@@BabyMaharaja0nobody up there is pro Biden😂😂😂 dont dish it out if u cant receive it. Im sure u heard that before. There was no reason for him to talk about someone’s body to try and prove a point. Thats weak and childish 😂😂

[@briannajones9572]

The way they talked to the younger guy was such a display of immaturity!

[@Chips505]

Justin Bieber was insufferable. No way he is Republican. Dude was a plant.

[@Mariabea63]

He was extremely respectful. I could understand bringing up age if the younger person was being childish, but he was clearly the most mature person in this video

[@alexxx5749]

He was not respectful he was the most empassioned and came with every conversation as a fight he was also the most ignorant and he’s not even conservative ,

[@daegon1985]

That’s just their real personality- magats are terrible people

[@NicholasJ-]

​@@alexxx5749he was extremely rùde!!and ñotice the 'fact-checks' only came on when Lòri was spitting facts!!

[@liska4819]

The guy wearing a suit and this blonde lady are the most disrespectful people I’ve seen in a long time. They join a discussion, but instead of engaging, they constantly try to talk over, insult, or ridicule anyone who disagrees with them! It's awful! That's not a discussion! They just respond with dismissive arguments like "You don't like XY, so you must be a communist" (a fictional example). How can you respond to that except with "No"? It’s impossible to argue with these people and that's what frustrates me the most

[@cjay5643]

Vote blue

[@Jaewon-bn8op]

blue is true

[@socalmotionYT]

The botox Hollywood lady is very disrespectful. She called a person working 9-5 someone who had no life.

[@JakeStarz.]

@@Jaewon-bn8opBlue is poverty controlled by a huge government 😂

[@Nyx_Room]

They say.. I like trumps honesty... they are in denial and clearly delusional

[@cornellius5897]

The fact they keep interuptting the young kid everytime he speaks is aggrevating

[@cryptoceltic538]

Because he is a dumbass

[@rosalainez2674]

They learning from their master

[@princezuru6133]

Because he doesn't know what his talking

[@tasmaniandevil2689]

@@princezuru6133???

[@javiand9372]

He was doing the same thing at different points during the entire video. He’s not innocent just cause he’s “young” lol

[@TheDrexill]

Stupidity and confidence together are dangerous.

[@Sean-xq5cy]

And unfortunately such a common pair

[@MB-go6uy]

and they have manifested itself into a red hat lol.

[@IonSquared]

1:21:23 Literally the ultimate example of this. Completely incorrect information (the process ended because they couldn't find any evidence, what a dipshit) repeatedly shouted. The ignorance is astounding.

[@soicysk7486]

Facts

[@transphotography]

Dangerous and extremely scary!

[@angelinamercado5200]

Lady Magas one liners just do not be hitting like she thinks 😭

[@dollarmike7144]

lol like the pause for dramatic effect 💀

[@fawn4271]

Just like how her makeup isn’t hitting like she thinks it is

[@dreadstuff]

@@fawn4271that’s what happens when you’re outcasted by the community you’re trying to impersonate. She’s a drag fraud 🤭

[@CyndeLooWho]

Bro was the kindest and most respectful of all these fools. Get some help.

[@plantgayforlife]

@@CyndeLooWho he was the rudest

[@SkiDew51]

Why did the pro trumpers get to speak uninterrupted and the anti trumpers were not? There were not even being respectful

[@seanguzy9601]

Well to be very clear, the young kid talked the longest without being interrupted for 27 mins. Lol 😆 I counted. I am that stubborn to prove people to be liars. And you just lied.

[@SkiDew51]

@@seanguzy9601 😂😂😂 I think you may have missed what I was pointing at. Yes, that kid spoke a lot to defend his view and opinion. The majority of the panel was disrespectful to him because of age. What I noticed is that people who agreed with the statement given were allowed to speak with being opposed or questioned. Those who opposed were interrupted without finishing their thought. I posed a question however, not a definitive statement. There’s a difference

[@socalmotionYT]

It’s because they really have nothing to say

[@rattus7881]

Because the moderator isn't doing his job

[@Dirtydoge414]

@@seanguzy9601he was interrupted constantly?

[@kareedodson2273]

People saying “you’re not a republican if you vote democratic” is wild. You can hold values of one party but decide another party is more in line with you for an election. You’re not bound in blood to vote one party your entire life because you align most with one side or the other.

[@magicvibrations5180]

It's such a polarized sentiment. In my country we have about 13 parties in parliament and most people are not exclusive to one party. We just go for the party that happens to represent our values the best every election. I've been eligible to vote for four elections so far and I've voted for three different parties.

[@socalmotionYT]

Then change your party. Simple.

[@hananhassen4212]

Exactly. If u don’t think the candidates that are running will help lead the country in a conservative or liberal direction u can still choose another candidate. I can’t believe how hard this is for some ppl to comprehend 😭

[@sj0223]

Exactly. I feel like people forget how much we were warned against a two party system.

[@DD-st5rh]

Which values does Biden have that represent a Republican??? Abortion? Globalism? War? Economics? Climate change initiatives?

[@dollarmike7144]

The black guy is so disappointing not because he’s a republican but because all he had were personal insults. Attacking a woman’s looks, attacking the men’s masculinity and attacking peoples age.

[@jfoot2732]

I hate this phrase with a burning passion but he is the male definition of a "Pick Me."

[@keifer7813]

​@@jfoot2732He genuinely believes he's welcome. People like that get a wake up call eventually

[@myramakaripe]

The Jezebel spirit 😂

[@vinci.allensteward]

Not to mention, the "let me explain " this menial inane point that I am completely wrong about 🤦‍♂️

[@matthewrosales9587]

He thinks wearing a suit two sizes too small means he’s buff hahah we see that gut bro 😂

[@johnspears9254]

I miss the days when people voted for the candidates based on the candidates, not their party.

[@ThatGuy-tx4vm]

The problem is it was never real. You always voted for the party and never for the candidate... Especially never for your own interests.

[@user-iq42]

​@@ThatGuy-tx4vmFor president, it hits differently because only 2 people really are in the race... Local elections are easier to find direct representation.

[@claycarpenter8625]

It's monkey see-monkey do. Within the parties themselves the elected officials get critized and chastised if they don't vote with the party. It's so ridiculous that they don't want anyone to think for themselves amd vote this way just because.

[@lrvogt1257]

That's fine but candidates are the representatives of their party.

[@claycarpenter8625]

@lrvogt1257 definitely not for the people and we don't understand that and won't do anything about it. IF and I don't think it would happen but with the numbers we could tell them what to do if we don't agree. We just shrug our shoulders like what can you do

[@broadviewbeaux3939]

10 minutes in, and the moderator has zero control.

[@mysticalirene]

I love how the woman in the pink dress can only “weaken” the younger male by saying that he only believed what he believes due to his age.

[@Romne]

It's called experience. Get over it Zoomer.

[@DD-st5rh]

There is a reason there are age requirements

[@troystanton6058]

Weird how the 19yo was the most respectful and also was able to see both points of view the entire episode..

[@mckenna_carey]

And denigrated often due to his age. Lame.

[@Brainjoy01]

young people are more open, by 30-40 the personality becomes more set in stone. we could all stand to keep our childish open mind to keep learning

[@jackbankhead1731]

He also had some of them most factually misled takes of all of them.

[@codyharney2997]

His takes we very bad and misled. He's been brainwashed and is fighting to figure out where he stands.

[@skidmoda]

Also the most ignorant thus the pish back

[@drackcula5167]

My IQ just dropped by 20%

[@standowner6979]

So now it's 72!

[@neil2444]

@@standowner6979 No, that would be your IQ, but I can see why you'd mess up a thing like that, poor thing.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

Stop the count!

[@jonaszswietomierz8017]

​@@neil2444I think he meant that his IQ was 72 factorial.

[@tristankerr3655]

then you must be a democrat lol

[@subtlestrawberry3321]

A few of these people were hella rude. It’s a discussion not a roast.

[@MrThomas564]

Next time: Pro-Biden Democrats vs Anti-Biden Democrats.

[@CB_4]

Believing that any politican is honest is just wild.

[@victoria-ek4zq]

Finally someone said it

[@kylezack5973]

He's not a politician. It doesn't make him honest. But he's the first guy in a long time to not come from a political legacy.

[@sneeze2hard123]

@@kylezack5973how is the former president not a politician???

[@SNNetwork]

difference is he did most of the things he said he was going to do policy wise

[@m0nZt3r]

@@sneeze2hard123 because colloquially politician in this context is someone who had a prolonged, and I mean VAST majority of life in politics.

[@themange59]

This lady in the red coat is the aunt that ruined Thanksgiving

[@LakeNell]

XD

[@sd4857]

Red coat lady is gross !!

[@bakermob29]

😂😂😂💯

[@DC3328]

Newsmax parrot

[@jobobbi6833]

Spitting facts and challenging others perspectives does get those that can not defend there beliefs get all offensive... prove that auntie wrong if you disagree lol

[@CashCowSlay]

Yo the black guy in the suit was wildin tf out and just coming for everyone that disagreed with him. Lady in the red dress wasn't all that cool either but the guy definitely took the cake with that one moment of a barrage of shots.

[@wenzerukun9823]

This is so republican debate they couldn't stfu and stay calm

[@ryvulet8639]

thats pretty ironic to say lol

[@socalmotionYT]

It’s a debate dummy lol. Were they supposed to sit there quiet?

[@shannongiblin1665]

i love how republicans are always like “liberals fight with emotion” meanwhile lori immediately starts yelling at the woman in red for being at her sons birthday party and makes the argument personal.

[@laurenlilly100]

Exactly like that had nothing to do with the topic anyways.

[@taylord1558]

I mean granted I would be PISSED if I had to wait 2 and a half hours… what if she had plans later in that day? Tbh that was pretty selfish of the woman, should have just told the crew she won’t be able to make it. That woman had fun at a party where the other one probably just sat in a room doing nothing… probably not even knowing how long they would have to wait. You really wouldn’t have any negative emotion after HOURS of delay?

[@shannongiblin1665]

@@taylord1558 yeah i would be pissed but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand

[@destinyn63]

Exactly

[@hannahwood1384]

@@taylord1558so you wait to bring it up until the show starts? lori is attacking her throughout the whole episode, comments under her breath.

[@alfredcguo]

the guy who said weak people are easily psychologically manipulated walked headfirst into the point so hard he broke his protrump nose

[@esperancehan]

this could be a punchline in a comedy show. It was so hilarious how he mentioned people's physicality

[@destinyn63]

I have never heard anything like that before 😂

[@capkronos00]

Yeah that made me LOL. The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.

[@brendon.official]

Lmao was thinking the exact same thing

[@palmer1290]

I read comments about someone bringing up others appearances and I expected that it was anyone else but that guy. He showed his true colors 😬​@@esperancehan

[@liliyahvelita]

they are so rude to the young guy saying he “isnt a republican” how are you gonna tell someone else their OWN VIEWS

[@ralph4694]

Duh, he voted democrat!!!!!! Makes him not republican!!!!!

[@liliyahvelita]

@@ralph4694 it doesn’t make him automatically like democratic ideals

[@nflegal49]

Calling fellow Republicans "Rinos" is the fastest way to dismiss a different point of view & to never learn anything new. It's a cheap & easy tactic to try to win an argument. This doesn't work with folks who research the issues.

[@MariamPassionfruit]

“Three young men who look like they’ve never lifted a weight in their life” “I have a heart condition?!” 😂😂😂 IM DEAD

[@CourtroomAnticsTV]

He used his brain too much and almost cuased him a heart failure

[@rolewis13]

I was confused because where was the black guy going with those comments lol

[@dotthepenguin9348]

When he said that one participant had the “jezebel spirit” I audibly gasped

[@prettypatties5170]

Like what??

[@Tortilla.Reform]

@27:00. For reference

[@thegmw8285]

Coming from a black person, I cried laughing at "If my eyes were closed, you'd be white" 😂

[@galaxybabe9563]

Why? Are people of a certain skin color supposed to sound a certain way?

[@destinyn63]

The look on his face after she said he was white washed. Priceless

[@destinyn63]

@@galaxybabe9563and are republicans supposed to look a certain way?

[@neetpride5919]

@@galaxybabe9563 yes. There is definitely such a thing as "acting White" and "acting Black". Your speech is a key component of acting

[@galaxybabe9563]

@@neetpride5919 you’re the problem.

[@ChristinaStarlight]

The young guy in the blue/white/yellow shirt was the best. He was the most adult and respectfull person in this debate.

[@socalmotionYT]

Not really. He’s wet behind the ears.

[@rattus7881]

Eh which one? I think you need to give more shirt colors so i can tell which one he is

[@SerinetySticlaru]

All MAGAS can do is mock. Name call. And distract

[@MoneyMister888]

The obsession with Obama’s middle name is crazy😂

[@misturatokunade66]

Like it was so unnecessary and she said it like a got you. Its really quite pathetic. It's clearly an inbuilt response to Islamophobia.

[@sharon4094]

And coming from the drag queen. You'd think he'd be more respectful.

[@lovelylesbian5135]

Fr like Even if he was Muslim that's not illegal nor could he lose presidency for it.

[@fatimaabbad3474]

Yeah like how can a gay guy and a black guy stand for hatred of other minorities

[@London2231]

They thought bringing it up was such a serve too 😂

[@mengl29]

'You're not a republican' - Yeah cause having different opinions means you can't be on the team 😂

[@Leviathan_Art]

That's the real kicker, wtf are you to decide how someone identifies their politics. Like the drag queen said " I'm not in a cult" but yet you are fam.

[@Adam-326]

Yes, it kinda does.

[@micah7453]

total cult mentality

[@jrgamer1243]

It’s like being a democrat then saying your the people’s party still 😂

[@destinyn63]

It’s so ridiculous . If you have one thing you don’t agree with you can’t be in the club. 😂

[@diamondpaije]

red blazer lady and her name drops are SENDING ME

[@kimsinthe80s]

"I guess 2020 was the first time these people thought an election could be rigged." 😂 Apparently no one remembers the Florida debacle with the "hanging Chads" in the 2000 election which Gore should have won.

[@th0ma572]

“As punishment I’ve been asked by Ragini to moderate todays episode” 😭

[@lbell9695]

Ragini is evil lol. I love the chaos mwa haha

[@zaiah9252]

Lol

[@dramonmaster222]

What a punishment.

[@gold289]

That is a shameful thing to say by him. Way to stay neutral

[@antonioleyba6522]

@@gold289 he did stay neutral lmfao

[@delsgoldenpaddle8682]

I really respect Sam, he stood up for his views despite personal attacks on his age and "being weak"

[@joebriggs5781]

@@DEEANNA88 what? So it's OK to make "false claims" if you're older? Also nobody put him "in his place".

[@BabyMaharaja0]

I don't. He's completely brainwashed

[@yetekt6953]

@@DEEANNA88Sam destroyed them😂he was the only one using evidence and logic.

[@andord123]

​@@DEEANNA88The Pro-Trumpers pushed nonsensical conspiracy theories to cope on a guy who they say doesn't lie when he literally just lied in an interview that he never said to lock up Hilary, when there's numerous videos of him saying it rallies and he pressured his DOJ to do so. Sam actually tried to stay grounded in reality and I didn't even agree with alot of what he said. This whole video just proved how much Trumpers are lost in a cult of personality.

[@rodzalez3549]

​@@DEEANNA88age is irrelevant in this matter

[@purgatory1256]

Dude in the tie dye was spitting. Mad respect

[@irek-_-nubzz7430]

Literally the only sane person who was logical and rational

[@derringerlong3575]

I must 👍🏾

[@yeti_369]

“ l would rather have an aging brain vs a dementia brain.” - Jennelle June 16, 2024

[@Natureboypkr2]

Thinking a politician cares about you or will save you is wild.

[@dash1dash2]

Ironically that's what democrats think about their representatives and their president.

[@mariss.317]

If you don't care about politics, you'll end up being governed by your inferiors

[@evilpuck6100]

Its like thinking a stripper really likes you when shes on your lap in a club. Here to make money 💰

[@VeganExcellence663]

@@dash1dash2 your response was so predictable

[@microsoftpain]

@@dash1dash2 99% of people believe this, this is why they vote.

[@gregcampo4383]

Saying someone is easily manipulated cause they aren’t physically strong is peak irony coming from someone in a cult

[@Tortilla.Reform]

His ego really fell out of his pockets and smashed on the ground @27:00

[@Jen-tt9yx]

Where's your evidence that he's in a cult -- the irony of this comment.

[@JXekil_I]

Bro really said cult

[@sibernout7717]

cult....... as someone who seen cults in real life you have zero idea what you are talking about.

[@SantanaBinks]

Physical strength is not what he meant by weak. Lib smoov brains at it again

[@zkring]

"So you agree that our elections are insecure but you do not think the (2020) election was rigged?" The answer to this could be a yes and it would in no way be a logical fallacy. It would be analogous to the question "so your car was unlocked but you do not think it was broken into?" Um no, and I never said it was broken into. You are the one claiming there was a rigged election. The onus is on you to prove it.

[@SupraViperhead]

If the 2020 Election was rigged because voting isn't "secure", How do they know that the 2016 Election wasn't rigged?

[@Rb-hj3gl]

Well said. That guys logic was so flawed it was embarrassing. He said something like “so you agree with voter id so not having voter id last election must mean out election was not secured” by his own reasoning every American election was not secured then

[@mahoganyroper314]

I don’t think RC even tried to understand anyone with opposing opinions.

[@beckylang91]

I’m disappointed in the moderator. He only says “no personal attacks” after someone RESPONDS to a personal attack. He should be telling the people who initiate attacks to stop. This is why kids continue to be bullied in school- we need to be better about condemning the people who “started it.”

[@cnachopchopnewsagency]

He is trumpers for sure😂

[@1MicrosoftCPU]

Are you talking about the jezebel bish Insulting the black guy?

[@balln415]

Kids get bullied because American parents don't teach their damn kids to respect their elders. It's starts at home, anyone can reproduce but not everyone can parent.

[@foeshizzel]

I was so annoyed that the "moderator" allowed the Republicans to use all kind of rhetoric and name calling to attack but didn't allow the others to defend by using the same methods.

[@laurettamae9573]

He’s new to it give him a lil slack

[@annoyingneighborcat]

The personal attacks on their appearances shouldn't shock me, but the fact it was so easy for some of them to go for it was.

[@Adam-326]

They’re just so easy to attack on that basis lmao.

[@dr.hiccup573]

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers." -Socrates Most of the people on this episode are adult children. Very sad. I wanted a professional debate.

[@Adam-326]

@@dr.hiccup573 If you think that you’re ever gonna get a “professional debate” from these people, on Jubilee of all places, you’re slightly delusional.

[@fleurdelalune8745]

Not enough wrinkles in the brain I reckon lol

[@joeyvaldez835]

“Freedom of speech” means they can say whatever they want and NO ONE should get offended It’s ridiculous

[@rasoolmcgee1594]

This anti Republican kid in tye dye is awesome and truthful

[@daath5114]

Nah. He's sounds like CNN/MSDNC on loop.

[@tasmaniandevil2689]

13:05 “I don’t believe in pronouns.” Repeat that sentence. Very. Slowly. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@rioclemmons4094]

"I don’t wanna get personal here…" *gets personal literally insulting specific people and their body type*

[@_HungryGaming]

People who start a statement with “I don’t want to say X” or “I’m not meaning to call you Y”…. 100% means to say that but thinks their disclaimer lets them.

[@hannahshelley1721]

Meanwhile, a white woman tells him he forgot how to be black😂

[@clarissanavarro2762]

This preface is like the " I don't mean to be offensive but ( proceeds to say offensive things )" preface. It is almost as if they believe that saying those words shields them from rational reactions to personal attacks, or being offensive.

[@Paulace89]

​@clarissanavarro2762 like if one would start with idk " I don't like you(r)...BUT...." makes it way better...but ofc not(sorry, english isn't my first language, but I hope u get shat I mean)

[@jasonking3651]

​@_HungryGaming you just put the spotlight on the haters (the Racist, the sexist and all the other ists out there.)

[@joebriggs5781]

How did Conservatives create this narrative that fitness is their thing? The fattest places in the country are very largely in Conservative rural towns

[@BabyMaharaja0]

Leftists pushed that narrative lol. They tried to connect gym culture to white supremacy

[@yetekt6953]

They’re very loud that’s why

[@jrhaven]

Why is this a talking point for either party? I'm sure you could find unfit people in both liberal and conservative areas. I just don't see the connection

[@muaoribia4140]

Unfortunately, I can verify this... live surrounded by several of them... help...

[@djoldsoulkid3407]

@@jrhavennah not really I only hear and see many republicans talk about it

[@Handzoffmynoose]

If there is going to be a moderator, they should moderate for everyone immediately. The whole "no personal attacks" thing at roughly 27 mins should have come up the moment he (RC, third on the featured list) targeted the other boys. Why wait until someone else is provoked enough to respond?

[@kyle333halfevil]

"By virtue of how honest he is is proof of how honest he really is." Cuz that makes sense

[@Electrocus]

This should be sponsored by Tylenol.

[@transphotography]

😂😂😂 Comment of the day!!

[@Crazllana]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@claytonjames4779]

There should be sponsored by Prozac

[@annabellehillis7933]

Amen!!

[@MplsMaven]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@leas.6380]

As someone from europe, this entire discussion is completely crazy. They hold the same values and tear each other apart over a guy who is convicted of about 34 felonies?😅

[@caleb42608]

As someone from America, yeah they kinda do be doing that nowadays

[@unionunicorn6776]

As an American, please send help

[@Kevin-xk3me]

They can find anyone guilty if they really wanted to.

[@hannahleeh1326]

Fr

[@rhysdavidso.n]

As an American, we need an intervention

[@imarielmermaid]

if theres not a pro-biden vs anti-biden democrats video after this, this is gonna say ALOT

[@len-1768]

There will be a pro-Biden vs anti-Biden Democrats video at some point this month or the next. We just have to wait.

[@Chanchinator]

Are there enough pro Biden Democrats to even do that?

[@tristqnejdjeh7278]

Cultists: Answer questions in depth and with no interruptions. Normal Human Beings: Get interrupted and talked over by at least 3 cultists halfway through every one of their answers.

[@elgranespejo]

I can''t get over how this moderator just lets these adults personally attack this kid over and over again without calling them out on it.

[@rioclemmons4094]

He said this was a punishment and that was his way of saying idgaf

[@seanbrennan4356]

He’s not a kid

[@rioclemmons4094]

@@seanbrennan4356 interesting u knew immediately who this was referring to tho

[@palmer1290]

@@seanbrennan4356 they shouldn't have been picking on who he was as a person. He was engaging with ideas and these much older adults kept trying to hit on his character and his choices instead.

[@sadscientist9995]

He’s not a kid

[@lily-gg2fk]

"i dont want to get personal" *insults literally everyone that disagrees with him*

[@laurenjohnson2581]

My dad fought for this country. For equality and for freedom in every aspect. We really need to come together during this time regardless of political parties. So sad:(

[@shan.69]

Unity will never happen unfortunately

[@carolmeyer8032]

It's N. Korea that doesn't allow people to leave, NOT CHINA.

[@venusbabe84]

I really wished they'd fact check these people to their faces rather than the blips on the screen.

[@rgemail]

Republicans are known to rage-quit when fact checked. If it's not a safe space for them to lie and insult - they're out. I predict we'll see that in practice when they keep cutting Trump's mic at the upcoming debate.

[@TornadoeJoe]

Most of the "fact checks" were opinion pieces that were just counter to the opinions of the panelists.

[@ABitefLife]

Why would that matter? Nothing you tell these people will ever nudge them towards a different perspective.

[@transphotography]

@@ABitefLifeYou can but it takes a lot of freaking patience

[@TornadoeJoe]

@@ABitefLife Listen, if you show me that the color blue is red, I'll believe you, it'll just take some time to rationalize that discovery. Fortunately, it isn't.

[@christyndoro]

This moderator is going thru it 😭

[@lbell9695]

Poor John, Ragini is pure evil lol

[@Random-sk6hm]

Ragini is DIABOLICAL for this one 😂

[@connorswife_]

hes getting Vietnam flashbacks

[@aerka0s760]

It is unwatchable, as in extremely hard to watch entirely. There is no clear moderation, people cannot agree on the most basic facts, they interrupt each other, they attack each other ad hominem, and they try to present a very simplistic picture of the reality. Those people are just like you and I, and they act just like we see on television, not listening to each other. That's sad because there is nothing both side can do to change their views, and there is too much of us that are like that, too deep into the rabbit hole. We have to agree on facts, on the definitions and not try to bend those to prove our points, or it's actually the death of our democracy and of our freedom.

[@heathertoribio5824]

This episode is unhinged. The Skylight meditation section is the best!

[@rachelmazza4079]

I can’t with this one. It’s actually physically painful to listen to.

[@ssescoe83]

Hurts my head 😂

[@BabyMaharaja0]

you poor sensetive thing

[@arthas640]

It's basically just a condensed version of the worst parts of Fox News and CNN distilled into one video.

[@rachelmazza4079]

@@arthas640that’s so accurate lmaoo

[@rachelmazza4079]

@@BabyMaharaja0yeah I’m soooo sensitive. I’m such a snowflake wokey 🤪🤪

[@alasdairjohnson1821]

The courage and calm conviction of the young republican guy is very impressive. Not a hallmark of a weak individual to me. Whereas the bloke who called him weak is a grown adult, throwing a hissy fit every 5 seconds. Throwing out insults, character attacks and using baby voice instead of any valid points. This is what a WEAK individual actually looks like. Appearance has got nothing to do with it.

[@brandyraccoon1473]

If you're a liberal democrat, you will go out of your way to find things to praise about this person, because he more closely matches your lefty thinking.

[@mikekgasda]

he isnt a republican. He is a liberal

[@darrenmims]

​@@brandyraccoon1473 Yeah, pretty sure most people would do the same thing the other way too, but okay bud.

[@lastnamefirstname8843]

You mean the guy regurgitating CNN talking points verbatim? Yea defending the machine screams strong and brave.

[@alasdairjohnson1821]

@@lastnamefirstname8843 not a comment on his talking points themselves merely praise of the way he conducted himself in stark contrast to his opposition. To do that eloquently and calmly at a such a young age when 4 adults are shouting at him and calling him weak speaks of strength to me.

[@znar96]

Can y'all please make another video with these same participants now that Project 2025 was introduced?

[@Isabel-pu1ir]

and when was the moderator going to start moderating?

[@Lizzie-Hartman]

funny how the ex-democrat was more respectful than every single one of them

[@CourtroomAnticsTV]

yea dems are usually real douchebags

[@HolyNamed]

who

[@bluelagoon6031]

@@HolyNamedcory, the guy with the shades on

[@milespatterson3594]

Of course he is

[@saberur66]

Yeah but then he wildly says he support Vivek or tulsi for president. Truly a weird guy

[@heathertea2704]

"Three young men who look like they haven't lifted a weight in their life....and a woman displaying the Jezebel Spirit...." Words from a lovingly proud, manipulative individual.

[@trinitypossehn]

Exactly! I was like......does he not watch fox News? All the ladies have on shorter skirts and dresses than her and sometimes more cleavage.

[@kcelenemkrishnan7778]

You must be a redpill incel 😊

[@joeyvaldez835]

There’s no hate like Christian love!!❤

[@user-yy4ux9zf4r]

He was blunt but correct

[@joeyvaldez835]

@@user-yy4ux9zf4r and yet not one insult to the cross dresser that’s against the Bible 😭 Foh

[@jordanwright2030]

Lets see pro Biden vs anti Biden

[@len-1768]

Who knows if Jubilee brought in insufferable woke imbeciles for the debate?

[@nojolie]

Ironic he attacks the two men on either side of the Drag Queen for not being masculine lmaoo

[@ry3bread35]

the guy that REPEATEDLY was calling people names and mocking others on the panel honestly should have been removed from this discussion that's unacceptable

[@NBGUYVER]

What guy?

[@Deniziozioz]

@@NBGUYVER black guy in a suit

[@NBGUYVER]

@Deniziozioz I didn't hear him call anyone a name. I heard the lady in red, calling everyone names with personal attacks.

[@lizzylemon5551]

​@@NBGUYVERthe one with the dress or the one wearing a red suit?

[@NBGUYVER]

@lizzylemon5551 with the dress. The one in the suit also engaged in some personal attacks, which is inexcusable. The lady in the dress was just nasty. Shaking her head at the drag queen saying yeah yeah get to it.

[@dillonrohe4988]

The guy in the completely burgundy outfit said it PRECISELY: Russia doesn't care who is president, they just want us to lose faith in our system of government, and they are hard at work making sure that happens.

[@ThatGuy-tx4vm]

That is one way to interpret it... Id go with the other option. Americans SHOULD lose faith with their system of government because it is a lie and it never served the people. Russia would prefer the status quo instead of people actually realising what really goes on.

[@stevesmith1923]

How does he do that?

[@tristankerr3655]

huh?

[@LS-di1yg]

Putin already said he’s for Biden

[@dillonrohe4988]

@@LS-di1yg Putin will say WHATEVER he thinks the American people want to hear. 😉

[@jessicawamsley1454]

omg I lost brain cells watching this. The ground fact checks have me cackling though 😂 had to pull those bad boys quite a lot this episode

[@geedad]

personal attacks and irrelevant side comments. i needed to work really hard to get past how disrespectful some of these participants are. i want to really listen to points but its painful to watch such attitude from some members of a party who should be supporting conservative faith and values.

[@spqr49]

I'm so glad no one talked over anyone or resorted to weird off topic personal attacks!

[@anniesmith4518]

Lol, I agree! Most respectful Jubilee episode I've seen! The comments section has more respect than the episode.

[@BusteloMaster]

Definitely great to see Republicans across the aisle treating their fellow Republicans with as much respect as they treat their other fellow Americans

[@michaela3863]

😂

[@amonty6109]

It’s alarming to see these conversations CONSTANTLY devolve into tasteless personal attacks

[@StrawberryShortcake2.8]

Seriously but what can you expect from a party who’s known for that

[@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927]

@@StrawberryShortcake2.8yep that’s what the Dems do. It’s their playbook.

[@BrayLer2004]

⁠@@StrawberryShortcake2.8No this is not exclusive to republicans, all of the parts of the political spectrum have factions within that disagree in such a bedrock way that it will devolve into petty insults

[@Sam-fn3wy]

These aren’t conservatives 😂

[@noway377]

That's the conservative party for you.

[@abigailhoward9312]

i feel for the dude who had to mediate this. definitely a punishment 😂

[@robertwalker3591]

4:52~ “You didn’t know it was gonna be he’s birthday??” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TimSconza-jo6us]

Trumps supporters won’t even let people finish a sentence to even get the point across 😂

[@Chips505]

So did the Justin Bieber hairdo

[@Shark-pj8in]

​@@Chips505no did u listen to him at all. Count the nunber of times anti vs pro trumps interrupted.

[@Ehren1337]

well justine beiber and jenelle did the same thing.

[@dia4729]

@@Ehren1337gotta match energy duh

[@Multimayhem45]

Jokes on you.. No one had a point

[@lexiemei1075]

"I think being a Republican means not voting for a democrat" insanity. Americas education system has failed and now everyone is radicalized 😭😭

[@demolilyofficial]

The fact that these folks don't realize that they have to make sure that conservative independents are on their side is insane.

[@marcusmiro7481]

Everyone is tribalized, virtually no one is radicalized. This eternal nauseating stasis is explicitly maintained by the lack of radical beliefs in the American population.

[@nevswain478]

the education system is ran by democrats.. you can thank them.

[@Devvo0z]

It has nothing to do with our education system it's the major flaw with the two party system. It's convinced everyone that America is divided into two separate teams that you have to dedicate yourself to.

[@mikeparker7631]

ummm...forget republican...no sane human being would ever vote for a democrat. period. that isn't tribalism...its simple common sense and human decency.

[@ryancarroll6192]

the idea that you can't belong to a political party if you dont blindly follow their leader is RIDICULOUS

[@MsggieB.6870]

The lady in the red dress, hit the nail on its head when it came to describing trup, i have even said this.

[@maynameismay]

The guy with the red tie started off with strong arguments and then self destruced with the insults. These people were only dressed fancy and acted uncivilized.

[@alexgee3072]

He's an Oreo cookie. Black outside white inside lmao

[@jayv7006]

You mean the white guy?

[@jacobbourassa1608]

I commented this under another but I’m gonna toss it here Unfortunately it seems like everyone is looking at the fact he declared they were weak and not that he was in the process of tying whatever he perceived their weaknesses as to a form of a psyop from the uniparty. He wasn't attacking them directly he was just declaring something that would be used in a form of comparison not to attack them but to try and show that their opinions are being manipulated and attacked sorry this is a long yap but I don't think he's attacking them they unfortunately took it as an attack and it went the way it did

[@Phantasma98]

@@jacobbourassa1608he said nothing personal and proceeded to attack them each personally for the next two minutes. They don’t work out, jezebel spirit, trying to kiss up to his friends and to make it worse he repeated the jezebel insult later in the video… doubling down on his insult. You can agree with someone politically and disagree with their actions.

[@matthewbeckwith663]

They're cosplaying

[@muzicecstasy]

RC really said "do you even lift bruh" in a political debate lol

[@Avogadros_number]

As someone who lifts, that was incredibly insecure of him. Lifting isn’t a personality trait, it’s something you do. Doesn’t make you any better than anyone else.

[@1MicrosoftCPU]

Are you talking about the jezebel bish Insulting the black guy?

[@christianjalexander]

Worst person on the whole panel, and he has some STIFF competition

[@ElleDiablo]

​@@christianjalexander facts! In a group of at least 3 annoying people, he sure did stand out😭

[@FatherCorn]

​@Avogadros_number i mean, having self discipline is better than not, so while you arent necessarily better than others you can certainly live a better life with better values. So people who lift could be "better than others" if you think of it like that.

[@sykedem_yt6254]

"you didn't know it was your sons birthday?"... I lost it....🤣