JUDY GARLAND on ELIZABETH TAYLOR - Diva on Diva

[@renatoespinoza8792]

The way Judy said "femme fatale" is iconic 👑👑😭💓

[@zyxw2024]

I see you almost everywhere on KZbin utilizing the word iconic incorrectly. You NEED to know the definition of the word iconic. Get new material. 🙄 adjective icon·​ic | \ ī-ˈkä-nik \ Collegiate Definition 1: of, relating to, or having the characteristics of an icon 2a: widely recognized and well-establishedan iconic brand name b: widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellencean iconic writer

[@zyxw2024]

Judy was an icon. How she describes something ain't iconic. You're on KZbin commenting on things celebrities said. The things they say & how they say it ain't iconic. And then the fools that don't know any better like yourself click like. Take an English course, study words, their purpose, their use in language. 🙄

[@huolalupin6008]

Well, everything's iconic these days, isn't it? What word do you use for actual icons?

[@danseabreeze1404]

Elizabeth always spoke well about Judy and Liza and never spoke badly about anyone unless it was to their face.

[@Anastasia1993116]

Dan Seabreeze Liz was too busy slaying men and collecting diamonds to care tbh . She was too famous , beautiful, rich and desired to give a fuck about what salty Marlene ( who always liked the same men as Liz did ) or salty Judy ( who never had men fall over themselves to be near her due to her average at best looks ) had to say .

[@templedrake5094]

They were good friends

[@ramfaki1256]

Dan Seabreeze.: Indeed!Cause Liz's a real l a d y!!

[@laurawilloughby4000]

@@Anastasia1993116 Judy was quite attractive.

[@MrMd217]

Laura Willoughby absolutely! Sure Liz was stunning but Judy was gorgeous in her own right.

[@EagleRockers]

Any moments spent with Judy are moments well spent. Thank you for these clips!

[@johnpalermo2422]

EagleRockers Agreed!

[@joshuataylor6087]

They were in reality close friends, that's why she can joke. When she died, Elizabeth took Liza under her wing and became a second mother to her.

[@marcosvalenca]

I'm not sure on how close Elizabeth and Garland really were. Here Garland said she didn't like Elizabeth much and that she didn't have good manners! A friend wouldn't say that. Decades later, on Larry King Live, Larry asked Liza about Elizabeth and she said "Why are you asking me about Elizabeth Taylor for?" I found it so rude.

[@joshuataylor6087]

They grew up together as children and knew each other their whole lives. You know when a person is so close to someone that they are comfortable enough to joke about and criticize them, like sibling rivalry. It was part of the gag.

[@marcosvalenca]

Yet, I have NEVER seen Elizabeth make jokes about Garland. Taylor always complimented Garland and talked about how much she loved Garland. So, the game was not played the same way by both.

[@SandySaunders9142]

Joshua Taylor No way. Judy Garland was born in 1922. Elizabeth Taylor in 1932. Liza Minnelli was born in 1946. Tell me which one Elizabeth grew up with, went to school with & was best bff with? Elizabeth & Liza Minnelli were not that close.

[@SandySaunders9142]

REALLY? How very, very strange. Maybe Minnelli was a woman-child. Because the fact of the matter is that Liza Minnelli was a married woman of 23 when her mother died. LM had been married for two years by that time.

[@johnpalermo2422]

I was always a Judy Garland fan! I am only 24 but have appreciation for the stars back then. THEY had real talent unlike most of the trash today. Elizabeth Taylor and Vivien Leigh tho were by far the most beautiful women I have ever seen and I am sure many could agree to that! Natural beauty didn't need any lip injections or a ton of surgery they were just naturally beautiful!

[@marcosvalenca]

John, you have good taste and is sensitive to real talent. There are trashy artists today, but there are great ones as well. They just lack glamour.

[@gregherried5189]

That's great, John, that you appreciate the stars from the golden days of Hollywood! Bette Davis, Laurence Olivier, Rosalind Russell, Olivia de Havilland, Spencer Tracy, Sidney Poitier and so many others, would never have carried on in public, the way that today's movie and t.v. stars do! And Elizabeth Taylor and Vivien Leigh were naturally beautiful. Miss Leigh looked like a little, porcelain doll. That's nice that someone as ypung as ypu appreciates the great ones from the past.

[@shihlin1]

John Palermo Don't forget Marilyn Monroe. Often not taken seriously as an actress, but few actors could make an entrance and hold everyone captivated like MM.

[@marcosvalenca]

Monroe was the most gorgeous and sexy blonde I have ever seen. Her sexy dumb blonde is one of the best characters ever created. But remember that Monroe was a complex person and difficult actress to work with. So, her lack of professionalism and sexy image led to many not taking her seriously.

[@lauracleghorn6474]

John Palermo I love Judy, Elizabeth, Marilyn, and Cher...That is all...Nuff said...

[@ruthiemonroig1614]

Judy Garland is adorable and what a sense of humor 💯🤗Rest in Paradise pretty lady ❤

[@DOLPHINLADYFOXandPUP]

Both Carol Burnett and Lucille Ball always said that Judy Garland was the MOST NATURAL FUNNIEST PERSON they ever knew! That says a whole lot! She had it ALL! She could sing, dance, act & had a great sense of humor...too bad she suffered from low self esteem, so many woman have been lied to about their worth!

[@seanmacmurchadha1807]

Judy was so funny in her interviews, a great personality.

[@BuzzStephens1]

Let's put things into perspective.When Judy performed at a private party at El Bistro per the request of Princess Margaret, Burton and Taylor were in attendance, and in their cups, Richard, in particular, was roaring drunk. To make matters worse, they were seated near the kitchen, which angered Richard who thought they deserved to be seated at the head table. During Judy's performance she stumbled over a mic cord and Richard yelled out "She's drunk again!" much to the horror of those present (Joanne Woodward then and there vowed to never speak to the Burtons again), and then the Burtons walked out. Judy didn't make a scene that night, but she apparently didn't forget the incident.....and swiped back when she was on the Paar show.

[@NoahZooArk]

True. I also read that Burton was well aware of how profitable having an affair with Elizabeth could be, but when he realized his fame would never match up to hers, he became bitter and jealous. Besides that, there's this interview with Shirley McLaine where she said he was often cruel and belittled her mercilessly in front of their friends. I guess she must have been so in love that she accepted all his bullshit

[@zeldasmith6154]

@@NoahZooArk Richard also beat her during the filming of Cleopatra. He was a mean drunk.

[@dec23]

"Nipples.." lmfao "I think you mean Nibbles."

[@jcnyc9087]

Garland - a raconteur par excellence!

[@williamneumyer7147]

Raconteuse.

[@jcnyc9087]

@@williamneumyer7147 Fair enough.

[@millers3888]

She looked so good here!

[@cliff9685]

millers3888 yes she did! Very healthy and attractive. Not too long before this she was extremely overweight and bloated with ill health. To see her like this was a revelation. She doesn’t look as good in the second interview

[@rahlohmcdonogh280]

Cmon guys she's obviously hi or drunk,can't blame her though,they put this woman thru hell.God take her and hold her please!

[@Schquirl]

I was thinking she looked and sounded terrible for her age in her 40s. She acts like someone who is late 50s. In her last performance she looked and sounded like she was someone late 60s or early 70s.

[@millers3888]

@@Schquirl I should clarify I thought she looked great during the 1962 Jack Paar Show. She was so bloated and heavy just a few years earlier, to see her looking so slim and svelte is awesome.

[@Schquirl]

@@millers3888 I can see what you mean. She had so much inflammation from bad diet and drugs and here she didn’t so much but still not healthy for her age. Here posture is bad and she looks more skinny fat than strong and tone but that was more common in that era. I totally think her posture was from bad self esteem also. It could also be genetic as her daughter looks terrible also but I think lifestyle and mental issues are stronger contributors.

[@shawn0md]

Thank you for uploading this.

[@davidhoward9273]

Judy was 20 years old when Elizabeth got to MGM They didn't go to school together

[@akrenwinkle]

Shhhh! Reality hardly matters. It's a better story if they were together in the little red schoolhouse.

[@pattibrooks1907]

Judy was so funny and talked so well of Elizabeth I know Liza did and Micky Dolenz and Davy Jones were on a trip with them playing tennis !

[@KalinaAngell]

Chill guys. Judy was just joking about Elizabeth as a kid...not who Elizabeth grew up to be as a woman. She was poking fun at her friend who went from an annoyingly talkative chipmunk loving kid to the sexiest woman of that time. They had a 10 year age difference. It was amusing to Judy to watch Elizabeth grow into what she became. Judy never saw it coming...so it was actually a backhanded compliment to Elizabeth.😜

[@danseabreeze1404]

Judy's not smiling or trying to be funny at 02:12 and she's even asked twice, "did you like her?" "NO" "really?" "no" unless she's drunk and jealous. I've always liked Judy Garland but have never seen her be this mean especially to Elizabeth that always spoke well about her and Liza.

[@markwhitman9029]

I doubt Judy would have been jealous of anyone in Hollywood given her superior talent but probably a little envious of their beauty. Judy was beautiful in other ways but she had low self esteem😅

[@vincentnorthrup2817]

It's good to hear from you . You are blessed with all you have.I like your videos. Have a nice day.☺

[@SpikeSPS]

Can you imagine her living into the 1970's and being a guest on The Carol Burnett Show? There would probably be a series of videos on youtube specifically dedicated to Carol Burnett inviting her onstage to greet the audience for a question and answer. Aside from all her talents she obviously was incredibly engaging and possessed a quick wit.

[@shihlin1]

I bet you can get Judy on a roll talking about someone and you have enough tidbits to write a book! She's a riot !

[@vincentnorthrup2817]

Thanks for the videos you send ,it's been a blessing listening to them.Have a blessed day.☺

[@alanmcalister4124]

Wow the aging Judy 1962 to 1967 unbelievable !!

[@raycurry4168]

Drugs & alcohol WILL age you.

[@fountainchain126]

Can you imagine her playing Dolly Levi at this point? What a shame that never happened

[@MarkWhitman-q3l]

Judy would have been a brilliant Mama Rose but not sure about Dolly Levi

[@7MonarC]

"That shows my age." Haha!

[@Myplop]

It’s not Liz it’s Elizabeth

[@IH8COMERCIALRNB]

Did you say, Elizardbreath?

[@fallonsb]

Dame Eizabeth, if you will!

[@bgmeadows6085]

You're so right! She hated being called "Liz."

[@davidpar2]

@@bgmeadows6085 she hated being called Liz after Mike Todd was killed, because he had called her that

[@markwhitman72]

Judy was ten years older than LIz so they hardly went to school together!! Lana and Mickey were older but close in age so they did go to MGM school with judy! Judy told hilarious stories and what a talented legend she was!!

[@kirsten1007]

They have all age groups. It is literally just one room and one teacher

[@kirsten1007]

Have you been on a studio set. I have. It is really lame. Education is very secondary to anything

[@markwhitman9029]

Yes but Liz appeared in the early 40s and Judy would have been way out of school by then. Mickey Lana Deanna and Judy all were about the same age

[@MarkWhitman-q3l]

​@@kirsten1007yes all ages but not Ten years different. By the time Liz went to school Judy, mickey Lana , Freddie and Deanna would have become young adults

[@MarkWhitman-q3l]

Judy included Liz in the school house probably to enhance the joke

[@darylchin53]

Why no one ever called BS on this always surprises me: Elizabeth Taylor was almost a decade younger than the others that Judy Garland mentions: Taylor arrived at the MGM lot in 1943, when she was 8 years old. In 1943, Lana Turner, Mickey Rooney, Freddie Bartholomew, Jackie Cooper, and Judy Garland were all in their 20s and well out of school. There was a brunette beauty who was 17 when she arrived at MGM in 1939, who would have been the same age as Turner and Garland, and that person was Ava Gardner. But how could Elizabeth Taylor have been there? This doesn't make ANY sense and never did.

[@bgmeadows6085]

Judy was stoned or drunk in the second clip.

[@william5177]

God love her... she had a fabulous career but such a short life.

[@garypesci746]

These were from the Jack Parr Show, not the Tonight show.

[@cherryedwards3]

I love Elizabeth but I’d have to say Judy was superior talent wise and comedic wise as well... she was a great entertainer... she was born to be that... and thanks to Judy’s stage mother ambition .... she was!!!

[@marybaker1715]

Judy was born in 1922. Elizabeth was born in 1932. Elizabeth and Liza were lifelong fans ❤❤

[@anthonyginther6883]

Love her Dionne Warwick hair style in the 67 clip.

[@gbtiling221]

Am back Judy love jimi

[@CeeLiberty]

amazing how quickly she aged in just three years! yikes!

[@Light-Shift]

That wasn't aging. She was very sick.

[@erichschmidt6717]

Love JG

[@davidhoward9235]

Judy was 22 years old in 1944 when Elizabeth Taylor made her first movie for MGM They did not go to school together

[@raycurry4168]

I know...movie STARS ARE the BIGGEST liars !!

[@zeldasmith6154]

There's fiction but Judy makes it seem so real. She's so funny and quick.

[@berjaboy]

Judy was 10 years older then Elizabeth Taylor, also Taylor wasn't employed by MGM player until 1942 and Garland was already an adult by this time. So it's impossible that they were in the same school or class together.

[@magzsara9892]

Imagine inviting a star to talk about someone else sshhh

[@MissStephy100]

She hated being called Liz, apparently her brother called her horrible names as a child so since then she's always preferred Elizabeth

[@SandySaunders9142]

Satan No, no, no. She just disliked the casualness, the too familial of "Liz". She was always, always an Elizabeth.

[@MissStephy100]

Avalanche of Snowflakes Yes Yes Yes, apparently when they were kids her brother use to call her names like ”Lizard Liz”. this is according to her biography that I'm reading at the moment

[@SandySaunders9142]

Satan Really? Which one? I had never heard that - sorry! Jack Paar sounds transfixed by ERT! Didn't Roddy McDowell go to the MGM school too?

[@MissStephy100]

I can't remember about Roddy McDowell but I read it either in Richard Burton's diaries or 'Furious Love' I remember reading it because my brother use to call me names when we were kids so it stuck with me.

[@SandySaunders9142]

Satan Leave it to a brother! I can totally see a brother doing that! I love Burton's diaries. I have tried to snap up any reputable books on Richard and Elizabeth. Am fascinated by the pair.

[@saam3712]

You're doing the Lord's work 👏👏👏

[@cherryedwards3]

Judy Garland aka Frances Gumm ...her ambitious mean stage mothers name was Ethel... she was tough “tuff” as nails!! But dropped dead in a parking Lot!!!

[@Soldier0fOblivion]

Can you make a video on Elizabeth Montgomery ?

[@littlericky46]

Amusing, but by the time ET was under contract at Metro and attending the little red schoolhouse, Judy was in her 20s! Also, Deanna Durbin was never under contract full-time at Metro, they dropped her and kept Judy. And yes, ET was always a big fan/supporter of Judy and Liza...

[@MarkWhitman-q3l]

Deanna was great opera singer but Metro wisely chose Judy who made a hell of a lot of money for them. I don't think Deanna would have

[@edwardscherry3004]

I’ve only seen maybe one or two pics of Judy and Elizabeth Taylor together.... Though Elizabeth Taylor was only like ten years younger then Judy Garland im sure Elizabeth thought Judy was from the old school.

[@Moonewitch]

Jack Paar was so damn messy! LMAO!

[@SandySaunders9142]

moonewitch Yep! He seemed a lil obsessed with one Elizabeth Taylor! Lol!

[@raycurry4168]

And NOW we have Andy Cohen !!!

[@Mimi-ey5ej]

But compared to the teenage dorks like Jimmy Fallon (gag me wit a spoon) Paar is a real adult, though not very poised.

[@timothycardoso1364]

The irony is that Judy's daughter Liza and Elizabeth Taylor were very dear friends.

[@MarkWhitman-q3l]

Liza and Liz were joined together in their AIDS fight but both were great friends with Michael Jackson

[@michaelmiller1215]

Judy Garland had TALENT. Elizabeth Taylor had JEWELRY.

[@MarkWhitman-q3l]

That's funny but true. I think Liz was a beauty but only a competent actress IMO

[@cherryedwards3]

Judy and her mom Ethel had problems with each other... but without Ethel’s ambitious engine Judy may have never been discovered...

[@jacobdunagan3659]

She would have been better off without fame. Hollywood chewed her up and spit her out...literally. Her mother was not supportive at all. Only jealous

[@markwhitman9029]

From every biography I've read Ethel abused Judy and used her as a huge meal ticket😮

[@ronniebishop2496]

Judy is 4-11 and looked 6ft y’all in the Wizard of Oz. Why she didn’t look like a little girl in height.

[@marcellacasey1324]

💋♥️

[@raypestrapur2897]

C'mon girls!!! Time for some pills, n' coke, n' champers and then get it on Gangnam Style with a bit of the rough stuff!!! Damn good women!! Real women!!

[@tysonmartin6962]

2:25

[@MarkWhitman-q3l]

Judy was one of very few genius talents and that type of person is usually a tad off center. They're beyond the average human being

[@massimogiordano2778]

Is strange ,,Judy garland was big swowbusiness woman , musical movie ,,,but Elizabeth was best actress in the world ...she was very divas ,,,,💄💄💄👄👄👄💋💋💋💍💍💍

[@chevrelait]

right about taylor's voice... tone ruined her performances for me

[@kalevala29]

I love her but was she always messed up? I suppose that's a stupid question.

[@kalevala29]

It's hard to break a habit that your mother forced on you when you were 9.

[@emd1494]

Judy should of been the one who didn't get out of bed for a certain amount of money.

[@ginnylorenz5265]

It was "Nibbles", not nipples. Poor Judy trying to be witty.

[@ManuelGuzman067]

She was pretty when she started out .not so pretty later on

[@scottduyser1222]

It was a joke she was making about Elizabeth going to School with Micky and Lana. To much of a age difference

[@sandyschipper1400]

there was only one 😂

[@BamaFan-vc4gn]

She sounds so insecure and envious. Sad really.

[@angelman51266]

Ni-bbles.

[@jm7804]

I think it's all a little tongue in cheek. I don't think it's shade. Judy threw very little shade.

[@kalevala29]

it was probably a hamster, not a chipmunk, lol. or maybe she's just joking

[@bonham460]

ET did have a pet chipmunk named Nipples among many other pets as a child

[@renatoespinoza8792]

Elizabeth was very excéntric like Michael Jackson if she want an elephant she could literally have it on her house. Love them

[@edwardscherry3004]

Elizabeth Taylor got by with bringing animals to school because of her beauty and her uncles money.... Elizabeth acted entitled.

[@reasonrestored9116]

Nobody cares what you think, nobody

[@AmericanPatriot-1776]

Judy always sounded drunk.

[@DarlaAnne]

it was the pills

[@SandySaunders9142]

Elizabeth Taylor was a SURVIVOR. Judy? Not so much.

[@shb7669]

Who’s to say that Judy didn’t have her own struggles

[@SandySaunders9142]

Judy DID very much have her own struggles. I would never envy Judy. Tbh, I was pissed off that Judy was so frank regarding ERT & so publically. Kind of ungracious and déclassé. The irony is that ERT would not have given a second thought about what JG or anyone else thought about how she lived her life. I have heard some doozies about JG and she wasn't just "rude". Elizabeth did one hell of a lot of good in her lifetime. A whole hell of a lot, that most do not know about. That is why I was irritated. 2nd comment. Life is a struggle. Always. I think it is okay to celebrate someone who did not allow themselves to get ground up by life. It is something to be very proud of. The strong survive. Inner strength is a vital coping mechanism.

[@marcosvalenca]

Timm, perhaps you see life in pink and everything is marvelous for you. But that's not reality for everyone else. Life is generally tough and going through it is a struggle. Being a survivor is prevailing over life's struggles. It's an achievement for someone without a dime who mix sand (dirt) in his meal to make it bigger in the poorest part of Africa and it's an achievement for a great actress who could have succumbed to the traps of the rich, famous, drug and alcohol addicted.

[@marcosvalenca]

Avalanche of Snowflakes, I can't agree with you more. I envy Garland's talent, but nothing else. I have always respected her talent as well as her daughter's. I always knew Garland tried to be upbeat and fight her depression or bipolar disease while being funny, but I never knew she tried to do it making fun of others. Being a great big Elizabeth Taylor fan, I'm not pleased with what she said. Add to that the fact that the timeframe doesn't match for them to be schoolmates because Garland was 10 years older than Elizabeth. I'm sure they visited each other's film sets, but they didn't study together. Only if Garland failed a few years at school.

[@SandySaunders9142]

Marcos Valenca Thank you Marcos! I am a big, big, big fan on ERT. I just have so much respect for her, and not just her acting. Btw, I have to say WAoVW was an amazing performance, esp. at the end. Her great beauty, I could go on and on. But I really admire all that she did for the HIV/AIDS community at no small risk to herself. I can't explain why, but she did put herself on the line. And all the money she raised. Young ppl don't appreciate what a terrifying time it was. I just think ppl (if they are too young) need to read about what times were like then. Reagan wouldn't ever talk about the growing crisis, much less lift a finger to help. It took ERT badgering and charming him into action. Poor Judy. Some people really have these amazing gifts like Judy & Liza, have them become beset with some serious struggles in life. You do the best you can. My comment was harsh, but - I was P.O.'d! 😕 Regarding suicide, every day I wake up is another victory for me. I have had major depression since childhood. I have had severe debilitating chronic pain for 20+ years. It just gets really difficult. Thank you for your words, sometimes I feel very alone in my feelings about folks. Sounds like you know the struggle. Thank you and Keep On Truckin' as they used to say in the 70's. All the Best my friend!

[@jeesuekim]

Well I don't like post mortem tell all's but when I read her book, she's foul. Marrying Hilton the horse, and all the others. Whew. But to me she's in show biz crowd so young as a child, and it just reflects those adults around from such a young age. Thats her norm. Mills too said she saw these elder famous stars and had crushes on em. So chipmunk Rooney and so forth, she's a standup not singing. So the guy was young. Mixing the two but to see her as some thing to knock off with no motivation is really sick. I mean she's a mom. Big ol mom. No diets just be. It's weird.

[@laniersmith1798]

What on earth are you talking about?

[@sandiegotrojandawg]

Liz wasn't HALF the entertainer Judy was.

[@marcosvalenca]

If you're talking all-around entertainer, someone who can act, sing, dance and tell jokes, you're right. Garland can only be compared to the likes of Streisand or The Divine Bette Midler. But Elizabeth Taylor was a much better actress than Garland with much more nominations and awards to prove it. Garland never got a competing Academy Award, just a special one. Aside from that, Elizabeth was a millionaire mega-star who wasn't broke by the time of her passing as Garland.

[@SandySaunders9142]

Marcos Valenca Marcos I could not agree more. Elizabeth never purported to be something she was not. Elizabeth was amazing enough as it was. No one in this group of "entertainers" praised or slammed was a better philanthropist. On top of the philanthropic efforts, she had a net worth of several hundred million dollars. Elizabeth never had to have her children come home from school to see their mother hanging out the window of their hotel, threatening to jump because she can't pay the hotel bill and the management wants to kick "The Judy Garland Entourage" out.

[@marcosvalenca]

I feel sorry for Garland, her kids and the nanny. It really was a tragicomedy. I always want human beings to be happy, especially talented and hardworking ones like Garland. I saw "The End of the Rainbow" on a London stage in 2011. It was a very good play that showcased the episode you spoke about.

[@SandySaunders9142]

Marcos Valenca Yeah, there is too much pain and suffering in this world as it is. No sense in making others miserable. It's just wrong anyway.

[@SandySaunders9142]

Buck Green Right, but let's not forget Elizabeth Taylor was the first "star" to seek recovery ie...The Betty Ford Center....she was a recovering alcoholic, she also I think the pain pills were a part of that. Elizabeth had chronic pain, from back injuries just like me. Thank God (please) I don't drink regularly because I have really REALLY severe chronic pain and if I drank too much that could become a whole other kettle of fish. But Elizabeth kind of broke fresh ground there, and made it okay for others to get treatment for a valid medical problem. People were thinking, then saying, "Well....if Elizabeth Taylor can admit she is an alcoholic, then maybe..........I can too." Elizabeth was one hell of a woman.

[@gingermurray]

So what if Judy bad mouthed Liz.. Judy didn’t beat around the bush about it. . Liz needed to be put in check and Judy is the person to do it. Liz and Richard were sloppy drunks. Liz was arrogant and rude to people outside of the business. Liz was going after older men in her teens. Liz was so self absorbed and didn’t care who she hurt to get what she wanted. Bravo Judy!

[@iansabeautie7845]

Judy was a drunk