Betty White and Joan Rivers Lay Into Each Other | Carson Tonight Show

[@toddanthony6664]

These two threw more shade than an eclipse. It was awesome. I hope wherever they are they know how much they are deeply missed.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

Appreciate your nice comment brother. Are you from Chicago, you look familiar? I played basketball in the projects and I lived on a Christian campus for 18 months on the west side.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

@Amy Brennan I like vodka martinis, margaritas, and Bloody Mary. You?

[@toddanthony6664]

@@dannetterousseau4095 thanks

[@kafkollectif525]

I bet they’re on a cloud right now cracking jokes together about everyone in heaven 💕😂

[@SweetChicagoGator]

@@kafkollectif525 2 fab party girls having much fun ! 🥰

[@connorrrouse]

It's so sad knowing that these 2 incredible ladies are no longer with us. Class acts, will never be forgotten.

[@LS-mp7co]

But weren't we all priveleged to have them for a small amount of time.

[@scaryanima9268]

@L S almost 100 years and 80+ is a decent amount of time.

[@AddictionToAwareness]

But they WILL be forgotten. We all will.

[@nightshadespectre409]

@@AddictionToAwareness No, not everybody. They say you don’t truly die until someone forgets your name. There have been many people throughout history who have left a lasting impact on the world, and Betty White is certainly one of them.

[@digby_dooright]

@@AddictionToAwareness I bet your fun at parties. 🙄😂

[@minnietrout814]

I love how Joan and Betty exchange lighthearted barbs. Both were comic geniuses, and both are truly missed. ♥️

[@ianbrewer4843]

Agree

[@louskunt9798]

17, maybe 18.

[@alamandrax]

Lighthearted … that came from a place of real hatred… I mean love. Yes. Love.

[@lyncressler2608]

I love them both. And I too miss them.

[@elizabethwightman4700]

Absolutely Iconic Women Hysterical!!

[@lc6750]

The insults fly right off their tongues, without cursing and malice. Lots of mutual respect ! Truly 2 comedy legends!

[@river_acheron]

You do know the Friars roasts from the 70s were more filthy than most things on TV today? You understand that Joan and Betty cursed up a storm during their stand-up acts? Dont act like the 70s and 80s were more wholesome than now. You just couldn't get away with as much on TV then, which is why they are not cursing. Facts

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

They throw compliments just as frequent as their shades. Amazing!

[@lc6750]

@@river_acheron not understanding your comment. Not acting like anything....I was around when the Friar's Roasts were on T.V. I watched these ladies, and others like them, curse up many many storms. Not really sure where your comment is coming from. You do know that the Friar's Roasts were intentionally raunchy, don't you?

[@river_acheron]

@@lc6750 Your original comment mentioned how they were funny NOT cursing. You sounded like one of those boomers that thinks comedy is better off being G-Rated. I metely wanted to say that the comedians of old were in many ways more offensive than the ones now. Dont get me wrong. I like all of it and nothing offends me.

[@netta96]

​@@river_acheronhardly.

[@kathieprater2431]

Two giants not just of comedy, but of life! Both trailblazers, both histerically funny, both perfect!

[@bunabunatetu6130]

Comparing them, though, is apples and oranges. Joan was a comedian. Truly. She did stand-up. Betty White, whom I adored, was just a funny lady. Big difference. Both were great. Betty held a special place in my heart because she did so much for animals. They were her first love, I think, as they are mine. Doris Day was another, who adored animals. She died in May of 2019. Two great ladies for animals. Such a loss. Doris Day was another funny lady. She did a lot of movies in the 60s. Some with Rock Hudson. They were so funny.

[@josephgaviota]

Every word @Buna Buna writes, 💯 agreement from me. My grandmother (God rest her soul) raised St. Bernards, was friends with Betty back in the early-mid 1960s. Such great women. I remember Doris Day going to animal rescues when I was a teen. Both missed :-(

[@popland1977]

@@bunabunatetu6130 They're still too giants of comedy tho. We all know Betty wasn't a stand up, bit she was a celebrated comic actress

[@anngeorge9081]

@@popland1977 s y.o

[@greendream716]

@@bunabunatetu6130 Betty was an actess withi impeccable comedic timing. She could have done anything in the realm and probably did at some point. Joan was of a certain type of comedian. Lets just say that..

[@Noneya2023]

Younger generations don’t understand how incredible it was to have Joan guest host The Tonight Show. She was decades ahead of her time & not appreciated for what a trailblazer she was. Betty & Joan together? Genius! 🙏❤️👏👏👏

[@yacobeinauan9533]

And people like you don’t understand that we do understand

[@river_acheron]

Dont blame us for being young. Were here watching arent we? We do understand. It was funny and cutting-edge for its time. In fact Im 23 and cracked up multiple times to this. Ofc we understand.

[@Noneya2023]

@@river_acheron my bad. I should rephrased my opening sentence. I hope younger generations appreciate how incredible this moment was. My meaning is that there are iconic moments in every generation. And one can only hope that the next generation appreciates the impact of their predecessors. There’s no way younger people can understand something that happened decades before they were born. A different world that they grew up in, the aftermath of these pivotal moments. Me included! I have no understanding of what it was like to grow up during the great depression or WWII. I’m a baby of the 70’s. But I appreciate the journey of those before me because I listened to their stories.

[@Noneya2023]

@@yacobeinauan9533 I’m sorry my comment bothered you. 🙏❤️

[@tjwash2]

I was in high school for some of those guest host duties and my friends and I would get together to watch her monologues. I liked Johnny Carson but Joan did such great crowd work, and rapid fire jokes.

[@kitheskethharvey3576]

I worked with Joan for 12 years. You miss the glamour, the excitement, the crowds, the defiance, the wages. More, you miss the friend who valued the gift of intimacy, and gave it. Most of all, you miss the person who, out of all on earth, most and loudest made you laugh. We fenced jokes, like this. (Invariably, she'd win: of course she did. ) I never imagined she could have had an equal. But now I do. Betty White! The speed, the dexterity, the parry and the lunge! Mesmeric, and heartbreaking.

[@craven5328]

Such a lovely comment :)

[@jakeaustin2379]

I convey a - 2nd hand yet up close private discussion with GM of Salem Witch Museum . Where Joan would visit when attending North Shore ( of Boston ) Music Theater. -- QUICKLY get to point - Miss Joan Rivers could NOT have been more lovely , gracious and invited the staff of Salem Witch Museum to her show ... + she comp'd --- paid for hundreds of $ for ....... people in the gift shop. --- _ I'm fortunate to have obtained this INSIGHT .. regarding Miss Joan Rivers ....... People of Salem / The Witch City --- never knew when her ' broom' touched down then took off to Beverly ......... [ Love you Miss Joan Rivers]

[@swingersonian]

Joan's comedy often went over my head when I was a young man, but watching reruns and new performances makes me realize that she was more clever and creative than Carson and less boring than Letterman. She didn't have to appear on TV every night, but when she guest hosted or appeared, she was a barrage of jokes--much like Robin Williams.

[@Jiorgiapeach]

Thank you for this comment. ❤

[@PlanetEarth3141]

​​@@swingersonian You're right. There was a reason Carson chose her to do more hosting on his show than any other and Joan should have succeeded Johnny, not Leno. Leno was pretty good, but not as good as Joan. There is no telling how much better the Tonight Show would have been. I think it would have been epic.

[@paytonpryor]

I miss both of these ladies.

[@emilydeeren4946]

I love how they crack each other up, and crack themselves up. I miss this kind of banter and comedy. Refreshing and fun to laugh along.

[@lepotatoes]

Watch Trixie and katya 🤣

[@jam6079]

@@lepotatoes I went to comment the same 😂

[@davideaston3005]

When I die, I will die happy because I know I'm going to be able to meet Joan and Betty. 100% legends in every sense of the word.

[@Ciclopea2]

"I would like to say you look lovely, but unfortunately..." "You can't see probably that far anymore"😂 A gem of an interview, glad i got to grow up witnessing and enjoying the talent of these two legends, RIP funny ladies 💕🌹

[@chocolaterose3483]

RIP and ALL THE LOVE

[@stephaniespear8323]

Not able to get it.

[@allthatjazzspaz95]

I don’t think the audience was prepared for how baudy Betty was! I’ve read that she actually had a very dirty sense of humor and that makes me love her even more.

[@neversaygoodbye4]

Oh no, she was all over the scene back then! They knew 😄 Just watch her as Sueann Nivens on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, that’s my favorite character of hers! ❤

[@NoteFromSELF]

Read? She was always like that.

[@phillyphan1225]

She was very quick and sharp..ppl today wouldn’t know it!

[@agneslong2323]

When she was much older, a host asked her about continuing to work so much. She said, "I'm a whore. I can't say 'No'."

[@theghostofrethsich2813]

Betty was the best game show guest

[@1oolabob]

Betty White--even when she was being risque in late-night tv mode--was just pure class and truly funny.

[@laboon344]

Agreed that was great !

[@maudeboggins9834]

Betty White gave Rue McClanahan (Blanche) a lovely compliment when discussing the character of Blanche in The Golden Girls "Rue took her into orbit a place I never would have gone". Betty was initially thought to play Blanche. Those two ladies were wonderful.

[@joetriolo9161]

Growing up I remember Betty as Sue Ann on the Mary Tyler Moore show and from Match Game...iconic TV shows and she killed it on both of them.

[@themirrorsofmymind]

You can see how much Joan loves to laugh and loves to make others laugh. I love her voice! And Betty is very sweet but a real bruiser with her comedic jabs! Great stuff!

[@emilysilva2726]

I😅 😥 j

[@larrybaumer2754]

Betty White was a true jem, and there'll never be such a sharp-minded comedian and unpredictable lady! Thank you Betty for all the laughs & smiles! You too Joan! Talk about crazy!😆

[@susanford2388]

Those two ladies were blessed with great minds, a great comedic timing. Just a joy to watch & listen to. Betty White's facial expressions in the Golden Girls were priceless. She could do confused, embarrassed & surprised in a matter of split seconds when playing Rose Nyland. Joan was sharp, sharp, sharp. She learned of famous people in all of the English speaking countries she visited, who's in & who's out. She never missed a trick. She made you laugh whether you were in the UK or New Zealand, what a fabulous fantastic brain.

[@Ballbeerfish]

Betty White was evil to the core. She drank adrenochrome that's how she lived so long. Be careful who you idolize Hollywood is filled with demons that are evil as hell. these 2 are both transgenders just like most of Hollywood is. They were born male. shut off your tv's and do some research.

[@Ballbeerfish]

Bone structure does not lie. they were born dudes.

[@adorable3817]

How old were they there?

[@susanford2388]

@@adorable3817 BW was born in 1922 & JR in 1933.

[@mlp63]

They are awesome, this is what you call true comedy, how it just flows right out perfectly, and the response comes along perfect. Wish we still had this .

[@briandavid3071]

At first I thought this was scripted, but no way. They are both just so quick and witty. "A nickle. But now it takes a little longer". Had me LOL for real!

[@quill1260]

That was extremely funny and quick-witted.

[@hrh-xj4fh]

Pros....scripted...

[@llcooljay520]

I mean, you can tell that this is their friendship, and they must’ve played off of each other like this all the time. It’s so natural and quick.

[@pthesmith]

“That’s my babysitter and laundress.”

[@richardeast3328]

@@hrh-xj4fh Amateur writing a commenter about ‘pros’ and the whole interview going way over his head. Swoosh.

[@jessyc6779]

The friendship between Joan Rivers and Betty White was beautiful. Thats what a genuine female friendship should look like! And hilarious!!

[@jaylaw.7660]

😂❤💯💯‼️

[@derpyeh9107]

This kind of dynamic certainly is preferable to yasslighting

[@localfan8174]

No one will ever compare to Ms. Betty White. She’s an icon, an all around gem and she will reign supreme eternally.

[@jstrahan2]

FYI: She was a Mrs., not a 'Ms', and happy to be Mrs. Allen Ludden.

[@93Jubilee]

And she spoke, beautifully, for the women's movement, without ever losing her comedic edge! Wonderful woman. And she was very happily married to Allen Ludden as was he to her!

[@localfan8174]

@@jstrahan2 thanks for the correction but I feel like she’d forgive my horrific mistake.

[@thefemalefuture1]

​@@localfan8174 😭

[@fobbitoperator3620]

Their synergy is without equal!

[@Chironicus]

What an amazing connection. Watching two lightning fast comedians connect so is fabulous.

[@joannaedwards6325]

imo The all around best two person interviews where both the host and the guest fed off each others talent and wit were CRAIG FERGUSON interviewing ROBIN WILLIAMS If you haven't yet watched those shows (The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson) I highly recommend you do. 😄😄😄😄

[@cindyoteri1869]

Ferguson's awesome. Really enjoying this interview with these wonderful comidiens.

[@joannaedwards6325]

@@cindyoteri1869 Ya. I think Craig Ferguson was highly underrated. I miss him.

[@netta96]

​@@joannaedwards6325he was great

[@BobG127]

Such great banter from comedy royalty. Joan was great, but Betty is my all-time favorite. Some of her greatest lines were delivered with an absolutely rock-solid straight face, leaving her co-stars in stitches. Pure genius. How lucky we are to have been so entertained. RIP, ladies, and thanks for the memories. ❤

[@johnlombardo7816]

funny i just watched (yesterday) a clip of the golden girls where she held it back the whole time and bea and rhea were dying laughing throughout.. had me in stiches like this clip

[@thebluedragon1532]

Today's folk can't touch these two with a twenty foot pole!!! Two of the best ever!!!

[@richardlau2447]

This 12 minutes will be forever. So effortless and spontaneous.

[@jimdavenport4484]

Maybe a 6’ pole would be more useful in this situation

[@louskunt9798]

@@jimdavenport4484 oh man! I came in here to say the EXACT same thing! Nice bro!✌️

[@retroguy9494]

Because todays folk lack something THESE women had. Class, style and dignity. All the attributes of a lady. Which is ALSO something lacking today!

[@MemoirsofaGamer1982]

2 iconic comedienne's who TRULY broke barriers for women, who are friends, who respect each other. Having the time of their lives. ❤

[@thor8580]

Real comedy that actually makes you belly laugh. Sorely missed . RIP to both of you beautifully funny women.❤️🙏🏼

[@LS-mp7co]

Agreed and real comedy happens off the cuff and is not scripted. These two women were just genuinely funny.

[@Bearthewolfdog]

When comedy was funny....

[@umelsaahmed625]

It blows my mind how spontaneously hilarious they both were and all was done with grace

[@shawnhayden6674]

Those two together just make me smile. People love to hate Joan Rivers but I have always loved her.

[@tarekwayne9193]

Yh, I'm just now realising how awesome she was in retrospect

[@rizzarius]

I saw a comedy special with her and almost peed myself laughing

[@PC4USE1]

What's to hate about Joan. I grew up in the 6os and I remember her various appearances as highlights. Quick witted,sharp tongued and self deprecating,a great in a field with few women in it at the time.

[@dgaller06]

Betty White and Joan Rivers both had the talent to be timeless. The fact that even after death, they're still relevant speaks volumes.

[@garygraham7105]

Everyone loved Betty White. She always made everything fun and exciting.

[@josephgaviota]

Allen Ludden was a LUCKY man.

[@valentinomiller6251]

Wrong. Bea Arthur didn't love Betty LOL

[@DeeEllEff]

@@valentinomiller6251 Obviously wrong, Bea.

[@bulldoggery]

@@valentinomiller6251 Bea was a contrarian.

[@KatzenjammerKid61]

Tell that to Ryan Reynolds.

[@Indarow]

My god this is amazing. Two absolute icons with so much natural comedic chemistry just feeding off of each other’s energy. All I can do is smile and giggle like a school girl. I miss them both so much.

[@scottkrause477]

Joan and Betty are probably exchanging barbs in Heaven! Two lovely and talented ladies!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@SweetChicagoGator]

Love Joans sarcastic humour ! A sensitive and kind woman esp after her husband's suicide.

[@joannaedwards6325]

Maybe not. Betty White is probably busy with Allen Luddin (spelling???) while Rivers is off behind a group of angels whispering mean sarcasms and gossiping trying to start a rumor about Gabriel.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

@@joannaedwards6325 NO sarcasm and gossiping in heaven !! Everyone that is allowed there must be honest, pious, & sincere !

[@joannaedwards6325]

@@SweetChicagoGator You don't understand my humor? You must be very young to think I was being literal.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

@@joannaedwards6325 NO ! UR NOT FUNNY !! ...AND NO, I don't care or need to understand LAME HUMOUR !! 😡

[@victoriaburkhardt9974]

These women as still national treasures. Thank you KZbin.

[@folkdude01]

Two comedy legends, warms my heart that this interview is online and you learn that they really were friends in real life. Good stuff.

[@tootired76]

These ladies had 10 times more comedic power than anyone alive today!! We miss you Betty! We miss you, Joan!😓😓😘😘

[@mlp63]

So true .

[@missysbees]

Classic sexual innuendo without the trash, so funny. Thanks to who ever dug this out from the archives. Wonderful!

[@sarahm5936]

I couldn't believe what Betty White insinuated with being lonely without electricity!!! 😂

[@tanyaedwards4574]

The mutual repect and love for each other shines through this- tw iconic, gifted ad-lib, one-liner ladies. The reason why I'm watching this close to end of 2024. RIP legends!!

[@susanpritchard7521]

I love both these elegant and talented inspirational women and their legacies to women in comedy

[@JohnJohnson-mo4bn]

Don't try to rewrite history. Joan was NEVER considered "Elegant".

[@1asset]

@@JohnJohnson-mo4bn tell that to the women who bought her jewelry collection

[@SN-sz7kw]

These two. Effortless comics. So delightful to hear them go back & forth. RIP wonderful ladies.

[@Glostahdude]

Joan was always a great fill in for Johnny!! And Betty can make anyone look good!! She’s so damn funny and sweet!

[@Glostahdude]

@@iowaguy6470 I agree completely! Johnny was really picky when it came to Comedians though!

[@StacyNels42U]

"Damn" Funny is NOT!!!!! Extremely Funny Is...

[@NoteFromSELF]

Johnny Carson was such a big baby to be so offended when Joan got her own show on Fox. He should have been happy for her.

[@netta96]

​@@NoteFromSELFhe really screwed her over

[@agwarddd]

There are very few people out there who have the quality that makes them look wonderful and shine a light on anyone with them, too. Betty White definitely had it. It sounds a bit rude to say she makes Joan look even better, but their beauty, charm, wit and humour shines so much brighter with them together because Betty just has that quality.

[@kookiekris]

So many mixed emotions watching this. We have lost the great ones and we have lost the great times. Having all these magnificent people on tv was the best times of our lives!

[@dougsholly9323]

Betty White was such a gem in a dismal world.

[@dougsholly9323]

@Tessmage Tessera true, but we only just lost her

[@retroguy9494]

The 80's were awesome compared to today. I was a high school senior when this aired. The future, at the time, only looked bright. Like the song of the day said "the future's so bright I gotta wear shades." Who would have thought what MY generation inherited we would ruin in just 20 short years.

[@anael55]

@Tessmage Tessera It was if you were an adult who lived through Reagan's recession. Businesses were closing all over the country. His "trickle down economics" was the beginning of the loss of our middle class and his illegal wars destroyed Latin America. The Reagan/Bush administration was the most corrupt in American history.

[@anael55]

@@retroguy9494 You didn't ruin it. Reagan & Daddy Bush did. They set it all in motion. Bush Sr. always talked about a "one world government". (his thousand points of light speech) YUCK! He meant it. The Bush crime family is responsible for much of the terrorism that happened in this country. When Bill Clinton took office he also sold Americans jobs away with NAFTA & deregulated banks by repealing with the Glass Steagall Act of 1999. Wave goodbye. He did balance the budget that way, but Bush Jr. spent it immediately after stealing the election, by sending all Americans a $300. check his first 3 months in office. That depleted all the cash on hand; so when he took us to war, there was no $ or plan to pay for it. They just keep printing cash for perpetual wars and giving our money to rich corporations or lobbies and definitely the war machine. The most important thing your generation did was to stage the Occupy Wall St protests. Other than that, I've seen nothing but apathy.

[@retroguy9494]

@@anael55 I think you have your speeches confused. Bush actually said "new world order" not one world government and it was said during a joint session of Congress after the start of the Gulf War. The 'thousand points of light' speech was what he gave at the GOP convention when he was nominated for president. But, like you, I can't STAND any of the Bush family. And even though I'm a republican, I never voted for one. Reagan, on the other hand, was AWESOME! Reagan restored pride back in America after the turbulence and upheavals of the late 1960's (kind of like we are going through now) and the Nixon years. He made us the envy of the world and put the crack in the wall that brought down the Soviet Union. He restored pride in being an American. The 'occupy Wall Street' movement was the millennials. Hardly MY generation as I'm a boomer! (although just barely). But you're right about Clinton and Bush junior. And what were THEY? Yep! BOOMERS! I saw the downfall begin in the mid 1990's. The younger boomers and gen xers made it worse. We currently run the country. But I was more referring to social and moral attitudes rather than economic. Long gone are the values of the lost, greatest and silent generations. My generation and the one below mine can best be described as greedy, self centered, apathetic (YOU called THAT one) and totally devoid of empathy if it doesn't involve one of their own. As for personal habits, long gone is patriotism. And great ladies like Betty White are fast becoming a thing of the past as they are replaced by foul mouthed karens in stretch pants, tee/sweat shirts, hair like rats nests, no makeup and both men AND women looking like they just stepped off an 8 hour shift on a garbage truck. No one knows their neighbors anymore it seems. Or helps them in time of need. The attitude of the generations that went though the depression and World War II of 'we're all in it together' was replaced by the "ME" generations of the 1990's. And when personal appearance/pride goes down the crapper, so does work and the economy.

[@barrnie4764]

40 years and 4 days ago, as I write this....Betty and Joan were two of the very best! So quick, clever and, of course, funny needling each other. A couple of the barbs were so sharp and smoothly delivered the audience missed them. RIP to these 2 greats...

[@silverserpent420]

Both ladies are gems. One in a million and we got to witness their greatness, passion and compassion.

[@liammcfarlane13]

You can tell these two women genuinely love and respect each other 😂

[@allentuggle2837]

Let's be real, you put these 2 girls together, it's going to be HILARIOUS.

[@MonarC27818]

This is how we bantered in the 90s. It was different. No hurt feelings. Just fun laughs

[@lisachalmers5687]

This is probably from the early 1980's. The 80's and 90's was the perfect world of technology and old world ways.

[@jamesliggins891]

ah yes, the '90s, a decade where famously no one's feelings in the entire world where hurt for any reason for an entire ten years.

[@JeffBlack-j9g]

This was 1982. A long time before the 90s. Joan's husband Edgar died by suicide in 1987 and she didn't re-marry, so - even if the clothes and makeup, and the fact that Joan hadn't yet been banned from (and by) Johnny Carson - didn't give you a hint that this was far from the 90s, I'd hope that Joan's mentioning having a husband might have helped you realize that this was not the 90s, and they were barely into the 80s. That, plus it says "Original Airdate: 12/02/1982" right there on the clip. Yes, I take an unusual approach, but when I see that the original airdate is included on the clip, I assume that the date they've published is the truth. When I see that this originally aired in late 1982, I don't add a decade to that date & then make a claim about how typical this was of how we did things in the 90s. I mean, why the 90s? Joan didn't die until 2014 and Betty died in 2021. You could have just as easily said "This is how we bantered in the late 1970s, or "This is typical of comedy in the early 2000," or "This is how we bantered in 2010." Taking two of the best-known, most successful women in who ever worked in comedy and claiming that this is typical of what WE ever did sounds to me like you're taking a whole lot of credit for other people's brilliance, completely setting aside the dates that you got laughably wrong. Why did you do this? Aside from the fact that this wasn't typical of anything, except that at this time insulting each (and insulting themselves) personally was expected - which in the real world, very much causes hurt feelings... but these women were professionals, fully prepared for this kind of humor, where even the most beautiful women are prepared to be called - and to call themselves - ugly, and old, and fat... most people would not consider it "fun laughs" to have someone on TV joke about how horrified her husband would be by her body if he ever saw her by mistake with the lights on.

[@skeetermcswagger0U812]

2 of the most genuinely honest and open icons of the entire entertainment world and can rip on each other like 2 sailors at the end of a trip across the cold blue seas yet still show the love and respect for each other like 2 sisters with a bond that couldn't be broken with all the fight of raging bulls. They are both truly beautiful souls that probably have Saint Christopher and all the angels laughing until the heavens burst open with salty tears of joy!!! May they both Rest in Peace. 👭🙏

[@DDumbrille]

WTF? Joan Rivers HONEST? She wasn't honest with herself, let alone anyone else...

[@skeetermcswagger0U812]

@@DDumbrille When's the last time you got taken down to the wood shed? 🤔🤨

[@Alphacentauri819]

@@DDumbrille almost all humans have elements of self deception. Even you. Even me...though I've worked at mining my own psyche for sure. She was often very honest about her struggles and insecurities. Many people cannot admit those. All you can do is be radically honest with yourself. If it's so important to call others out for it. Dig down beyond all the defenses, the illusions, the ego protections, the cognitive distortions and the biases...it's a warriors job. To be that wholly brave to look at oneself, unedited, holding space, and fully accepting...that is very, very rare. It's too scary a proposition for most. Your statement incredibly shared something about you. That you must be pretty hard on yourself, and project it outwards...that you likely have an unaddressed core wound of shame. We can not have empathy if we see ourselves and others through a lens of shame...therefore we readily try to shame others, simply for being human. I hope you can heal.

[@DDumbrille]

@@Alphacentauri819 Very insightful. I AM hard on myself, and there is shame. Perhaps I was projecting that forward, but I still say that Rivers was full of self-hatred which SHE projected on everyone. Unlike Don Rickles, who would always end his bits by acknowledging he's just kidding, that these are jokes, etc., Rivers never did that. In the documentary that followed her around -- she bitched about 'having to' play vegas, or play some small town -- when it was HER CHOICE to do so. She could've retired 10-15 years before her death, but kept going back for the 'love' of applause. Very sad. Hopefully others (including myself) have learned lessons from her sad life.

[@Alphacentauri819]

@@DDumbrille my heart goes out to you. Being a human can, at times, be a tough endeavor. I too agree that Rivers seemed to have so much self loathing. It's heartbreaking. We abuse ourselves more than almost anyone else does.. her dismissing her own value, invalidating herself through various means...especially the self mutilation and suffering, of cosmetic surgeries. That screams "I'm not enough". If she'd loved, valued, honored herself, had her own back...she would never have decided to do all that. It's sad when people buy into the lies of society, their definitions of beauty, value etc. If each human thought they were enough, didn't live in shame...there would be no market for cosmetics, elective plastic surgery, and a plethora of other services/products, we are sold. Advertisers prey on humans need to belong...by targeting their weakness. Suggesting that if we alter things we might be loved, adored, validated, etc. Accepting oneself is the protection against it all. Takes work, but it's possible 💛

[@Spikedsoymilk]

This was such an incredible interview. It was so shocking to me to find an interview from the early 80s where these two women could be so raunchy (yet hilarious) on television and I loved every minute of it!!!

[@Cat-no8ts]

Joan looked especially beautiful...her hair is gorgeous. Betty.....well, Betty is just herself...a natural down-to-earth beauty! Great icons who are truly missed!

[@thelegendofthem6120]

Betty was gorgeous

[@christianalander9487]

A chat between two of the genuinely funniest women of all time... More, please! 👏

[@lb493]

This is a prime example of a master of her craft. Betty was 60 when this interview took place and she has the sharp, quick wit of a person a quarter of her age.

[@bl7817]

Stupid remark. Why would a younger person have a sharper wit? I can't even imagine what impossible age you are!

[@rubyfruit17]

LOVED Betty, I was lucky enough to see Joan live a couple years before she passed and she was amazing.

[@6foot5bill]

i agree she was amazing - but I'd say most 60 year-olds I've know have pretty refined wit, certainly better than the typical 15 year old!

[@BlinkyB23]

@@6foot5bill Exactly. This is very ageist and an outdated way of looking at people this age...I wish more people took a basic Lifespan Development class. They would learn that most average, healthy 60 year old people don't experience any significant cognitive declines. Being older doesn't mean you're no longer sharp or intelligent!

[@cherrybomb1386]

They were both hilarious and sharp til the end.

[@dale8809]

This was a great treat. Super funny comedians.

[@dmongosa]

Two great comedy legends who could trade friendly barbs equally with each other. RIP Betty and Joan

[@NoOne-kr4jc]

I am glad the Carson channel brought up a Joan Rivers guest host episode.

[@starbellak5154]

Betty White...what a sweatheart ❤ Joan Rivers...crazy - funny lady ❤

[@angieshepard9801]

This was almost 12 minutes long, late night guests now might have two or three minutes interview time. Betty and Joan were classics in their field.

[@ojet013]

Wow. That was a masterclass. These two are unparalleled

[@gic8849]

Oh I just love them.

[@redtesta]

when late night was awesome and the people were amazing. Missss those days.

[@Zzrdemon6633]

Betty was 60 here and she lived another 39 yrs sharp as a tack with her wit and comebacks truly a legend! Joan was also a legend but her insecurities took her too early

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

No. She told the truth about the Obamas and paid the price. But there are rumors that she is still alive. There is video of her.

[@svaught1]

That was fun! Love these two funny ladies. ❤

[@AlexThee]

It's so eye-opening and shocking to know both of these brilliant women are no longer giving gifts to this world. They will forever be missed ❤️

[@stephenbartley8133]

Both beautiful and brilliant and hilarious.. and missed

[@darrinbaker00]

It seemed like the whole world was rooting for Betty to make it to 100.

[@josephgaviota]

Missed it by _that_ much. -Agent 86

[@patricktraichal9287]

George Burns just made it.

[@mrchihuahuaboy4306]

Ya but she didn’t make it did she 😂

[@marcoevans2155]

@@mrchihuahuaboy4306 couldn't resist could you, seek help 😉

[@mrchihuahuaboy4306]

@@marcoevans2155 nah lol I’m good 😘

[@ritaj.9880]

This was an absolute delight. Both women are deeply missed.

[@Nunya_Bidness_53]

You can tell they live each other by the way they tear each other down.

[@louskunt9798]

I agree. I bet they also love each other.

[@Jaxnay219]

If these two were this funny on TV, imagine all the missed jokes and how funny they were OFF screen!! Two very missed wonderful ladies!!! ❤️

[@millers3888]

“I’m so glad I’m married, cause they don’t look at you. My husband wouldn’t be able to identify my body” “Well can’t you tattoo something across your chest? Well there’s no room…” The savagery!!!!

[@malundrino]

The best was the answer! Front hahahahaha

[@dickie748]

“Front”

[@danielromero9152]

​@hoobananaz no, it was a way to say that her breast was falling lol

[@jimmyjames2022]

This has to be one of the best entertainment spots on any YT channel ever, with Betty and Joan exchanging wit on Carson in 1983. Wonderful memories, thanks for posting!

[@heatherwilkins7228]

These both were genius fun women. Our society needs more women laughing and having fun.

[@MaestroDobel1884]

These 2 are such an iconic duo. The way they read each other is absolutely legendary.

[@myridean2k4]

I just double-checked the date that was posted here. It's funny that she is so bright and cheery, Joan teasing Betty about her show and getting back into "the market" (Dating Scene). As some would know already, Betty's husband, Allan, had passed away less than 2 years before (1980-1981). She had been married to him for 20 years. She never did remarry in her remaining 40 years but you wouldn't have known she was a widow. Simply remarkable and inspiring. #RIPBettyWhite #RIPJoanRivers #legends

[@marinawilliams8786]

Hysterically funny they kept me in stitches. I love the bantering back and forth between them. They were both good buds. There will never anyone who will top her comedic abilities. Love them both. They t missed. RIP comedy legends

[@sjrq]

these two icons just bring so much joy and character through the screen that rarely anyone in Hollywood has 💞 RIP JOAN & BETTY 🫶

[@bieassialaw6832]

Loved them both! Shed tears with both of their passings 😢

[@Joanna7428]

Awe these women were just adorable, it's very bittersweet to watch this, so full of life and I'm in awe of Betty, her resilience to keep going is truly inspiring - she'd only lost her husband Allan less than a year before this was aired, she could keep it together and with such humility, kindness and dignity. Joan was a legend! ❤️❤️

[@brmam1385]

It was never mean spirited, but fun & always, always funny. Thank you ladies for all the good times you lifted our spirits & made our worlds a better place.👍♥🇺🇸

[@terrytrammell7388]

I loved Joan Rivers and Betty White. Both great entertainers

[@gzok4189]

The world dearly misses these two comedic legends. I hope you're both laughing in heaven.

[@GuavaChiffonTheCosmetix]

Omg that was SO fn funny!!🤣 I needed that. Legendary babes 💖

[@liambrannelly45]

Two true GIANTS of comedy!!! Loved this :)

[@David-mh2jn]

They could and should have done a show together. Joan liked Betty because Betty White was just flat out naturally funny

[@trueshy]

Joan played Betty's twin sister on an episode of Hot In Cleveland.

[@David-mh2jn]

@@trueshy No Kidding .... thank you for sharing that.

[@bobobeebee9554]

Agree!

[@christophermyers3758]

I'm so grateful to have met both, and they were just as funny and sincere as you would have expected. I met Betty at her book signing of her memoirs, at Beverly Center (back when there was a bookstore... think it was B Dalton's?). She was pleasant and friendly. Still have the book in my bookcase, signed to me and my 2 former cats! 🤗😻😻 I met Joan at Spago, on the Sunset Strip, after celebrating my "graduation from college" dinner. She was with her husband Edgar and another couple. Was nervous, but told her I enjoyed watching her late night show. Also told her had tickets to see the show in a couple of weeks. She gave me name of contact once I went there. Long story short... was able to get 2nd row aisle seat about 10 feet from her, when she did her monolog with the audience. I also was on TV just above her shoulder, as the camera turned towards the audience! Next day had about 1/2 dozen people say they saw me on TV! 😎🤣 Then few years later I went to an open house in Bel Air, that turned out to be Joan & Edgar's mansion, where Melissa grew up! Later was purchased by Janet Jackson! When Joan passed, it hit me hard, as I truly felt I had a personal connection with her, and when Betty passed, it felt like losing my grandmother again! I miss both of them! 😢

[@glennmorrell4907]

Thanks for sharing this bit…It’s priceless… two of my fav entertainers!

[@donnadaisy333]

Wonderful! Thank you for sharing.

[@richardtaylor8595]

I love both of these great ladies. R.I.P TO BOTH. Will be missed forever. This episode is so funny.

[@lisagerman2111]

What a gem - haven't seen before, despite being a fan of both ladies :) Crazy to realize Betty & Joan are both passed, but maybe it makes these memories more lovely. Thanks so much for posting video :)

[@karencroy9386]

so sad these two ladies are gone. they were both so beautiful, eloquent and absolutely hilarious! no one could outshine them trading barbs!

[@richardlau2447]

The world is just a little darker without these shining stars.✨

[@mitzio]

Amazing talent and timeless ladies! Love them both.

[@myronmadey3040]

True legends! They must be joking around in heaven RiP .Very missed but never forgotten!

[@Noneya2023]

Two of the best broads to ever grace us with their humor. Naughty, hilarious & genius. Our world is dull without these amazing women…

[@johnedwardjones999]

Love them both. So fortunate they were entertaining most of my life. # Missed

[@louannchipman1749]

Amazing talent, right here! Loved them both!

[@andreaslindblom9140]

KZbin is a freakin´ rabbit hole (Thanks, Alice!).., but Im glad that I ended up here!! 😁

[@nyyxs]

This was amazing to watch! Two of the funniest people ever exist! Love and miss you both.

[@jonrettich4579]

I am so glad moments like this are still available and accessable

[@michaelcauser474]

Two lovely ladies, and both with a wicked sense of humour. Loved them both.

[@davemalone3820]

Oh how I love these ladies. I miss them so much.

[@burkegreenwood9109]

Watching this while sick with a cold and i have to tell you it’s the best medicine; I miss these amazing ladies!

[@JAKASHA420]

One of my best friends and I were like this. He passed away two years ago and I miss him like it was yesterday.

[@williamwhite2113]

Joan and Betty were two of a kind. RIP ladies.