Julian Batchelor on the NZ Herald article labelling him as far right

Michael Laws talks to Julian Batchelor from Stop Co-Governance about the NZ Herald article labelling him as far right.
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[@skaxman99]

42 minutes of a constructive conversation on an important topic that needs to be discussed. Well done Platform. 👏

[@lynnebarnes3840]

I'm registered with my iwi and I totally support this man's tour. I'm totally in favour of free speech including speech I don't like.

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

good for you, all power to you

[@lizbmusic11]

Have you heard him insult and belittle Maori? I have.

[@nzkirsty6816]

Thank you for your comment, it’s refreshing to hear Maori who accept an alternate view without aggression.

[@nzkirsty6816]

@@lizbmusic11I’ve heard from people who have attended his meetings and they said he does not bad mouth maori. Just because he may say things maori don’t agree with, that doesn’t make them insults….

[@poncholarpez6233]

Pay no attention to Liz, she has no proof, she is also an Antifa crazy that just tries to smear people. She needs to go meditate and chill.

[@allaboutstress361]

I think the nz herald must now be considered a marketing and advertising company, which will present any narrative by anyone as long as the price is right. To consider them as any part of the 4th estate would be deluded as their actions speak louder than their words.

[@andycy2226]

Not true, they refuse to run family first's ads.

[@joewilde.]

@@andycy2226 Good point...

[@whatthe6532]

Brilliant get rid of co governance. I am happy to live with the Māori version of the treaty.

[@ItsReww]

I’m Māori, yet too hear anything racist from Julian? Disagreeing with one’s point of view is not racist. Saying he’s racist over and over again also doesn’t make it true.

[@Dave183]

Julian's views on early history here are not based on known fact. A good story- but not all stories are true.

[@h4rdkn0x]

You are Far Right these days if you have a gym membership or if you like to eat meat, so not a very high bar. It just means they don't like what you are doing or who you are, so not very tolerant or inclusive of them.

[@bighorn1994]

Wow someone who actually understands the treaty.

[@williamearnshaw410]

The Treaty a load of bullshit manipulated by Maori for their own gains and narrative....it lead from continuous never ending land and compensation claims, to inisistant Maorification propoganda " re education " of children....to the current claims for sovreignty and an apartheid co- governance!

[@the1likenutez]

They dont understand anything, just tsale pale racist coloniser bludgers. Laws and Batchaler both known racists

[@Dave183]

You have got to be kidding!

[@tindog999]

Everyone seems to be Far Right nowadays!

[@DW_Kiwi]

Need to, because of Maori separatists!! and radicals

[@Anonymouse405]

If they've half a brain left!🤷‍♂️

[@greatwhite9428]

Created by this govt

[@PakehaParker]

Far right unless you're a woke maori radical.or in the trans cult.

[@calstonjew]

Maori hate Whites, it only cuts one way.@@DW_Kiwi

[@qb9674]

Thank you Platform for such a clearly informative and respectful presentation on Treaty detail ……..

[@Dave183]

A really biased point of view... !!!

[@saxdearing3395]

This issue is not about race or party politics, it's about constitutional change that is being promulgated by activists and a Government and its quasi governmental agencies, hell-bent on an agenda that has never been presented to the public at large. There has never been a definition of co- governance issued by Government, in fact the opposite has occurred with concerted efforts to prevent discussion. The Civil Rights Act guarantees equal rights under the Law. Co-governance would breach this Act.

[@standbytogo123]

The Activists that you mention promulgating Co Governance are probably the same people that will Co-Govern. Surely not? they would never be elected. Well there is no 'elected' involved in Co Governance, they will be appointed, probably by themselves. This is directly contrary to the one person one vote principal of Democracy that we have in this country. It would indeed require a Constitutional change. Decided probably by a Referendum as is being proposed in Australia at this very time with regards to the 'Voice' over there. The Voice of the indigenous people ,that is the Aboriginals who are in fact with out doubt the Indigenous people of the land, unlike the Maori who are not in NZ

[@saxdearing3395]

@@standbytogo123 As you say. Its a pretty dismal outlook developed by Liebour. It amazes me how so few of us are concerned.

[@FionaReid-c6m]

​@@standbytogo123we have 1 person 2 votes... WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN 😮

[@FionaReid-c6m]

​@@saxdearing3395😂

[@saxdearing3395]

@@FionaReid-c6m Try reading "Judicial Activism and the Treaty: The Pendulum Returns". David Round. Otago Law Review 2000. Treat principals are BS.

[@DW_Kiwi]

Restore New Zealand. Well said Julian!!

[@andycy2226]

Te Paati Maori routenly have patched mongrol mob members at their events. Should we judge Te Paati Maori guilty by association?

[@geoffstokes]

Probably

[@peter-yy5qy]

Yes I would 😂

[@tingtingshiney1477]

should te puni kokiri fund the mongrol mob to be navigators in the health system ... is that ok having them navigate vulnerable woman? i think not. yet they do it and the woman dont know.

[@JeaneGenie]

Julian talks a lot of sense, and the more his message is spread and understood, the better for NZ's future.

[@Dave183]

Rubbish.

[@marcusnz232]

I genuinely do not believe that anyone working in NZ journalism actually understand what "far right" would look like. I grew up in Europe and they actually have far right parties in Germany. A far right party in NZ would have policies that are incredibly obviously very far right, usually racially discriminatory in the extreme and no such party exists in NZ.

[@calstonjew]

National *SOCIALISM* FAR-LEFT

[@ngataringa1742]

Unfortunately we do have parties in NZ with very much a racial discrimination agenda, openly propagated and put into actual practise already. Why else would we otherwise have two Health Authorities or political power allocated based on ancestry alone?

[@theocelot-yb4oq]

Yes it does.. it’s called Te Pati Māori

[@yorkieinnz4648]

​@@theocelot-yb4oqThe biggest Racist is that Prat in a Hat 🖕

[@davidmccormick3742]

There’s Macron & his “Far Left Party in France 🇫🇷 A little strife with some of his “French”Muslim inhabitants lately!!Regards Dave McC

[@operatorsix6933]

stop handing out billions and assets, recover it all.

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

your a hero Julian, a very brave man standing up for what is normal, nothing extreme about your message, go you good thing you, keep being you

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

Remember Julian, our traditional allies, australia, england, midland America and even Japan, are wondering what the hell is going on with us and Canada right now

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

it is not alright Michael, that lady needs charged, far left nutter or not, she has done damage to some poor 80 year old lady, that is not good enough

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

There are no principles in the treaty Michael, you cannot say that. The treaty is what it is, that is what is signed on. You cannot make them up later. That is the problem and why we have got to such division. People making up stuff later .

[@paulmeersa7162]

I like your style Michael, no yelling, no constant interruptions, no cutting people off speaking over the top of them consistently, you listen, then ask very pertinent questions, and challenge what you think is challenge worthy, while genuinely listening for the response, to challenge further, a true INTER - Viewer.

[@masksarelies391]

But his disdain of what he deems a conspiracy, is very evident. How disgusting.

[@paulmeersa7162]

@@masksarelies391 Mmmm; Balance..?

[@mcgruff3309]

First people who came here were foreigners, Facts!

[@secondchance6603]

Correct, Maori were the first foreign invading colonists who committed genocide on the peaceful Maoriori wiping them out but that's different... apparently.

[@saregama-r8td]

Good on the man for sticking with what’s important, like he said there are Maori, Chinese other ethnicities helping to organise a legitimate, Legal and private meeting. What are they so afraid of?

[@Dave183]

Rubbish...

[@drmantistoboggan2870]

They are so desperate to stop Julian 😂 What will they accuse him of next?

[@shortynz]

Probably being a sexist white male & not showing respect to the Maori woman 🙄🤦🏻

[@FionaReid-c6m]

Stupidity

[@josephl9619]

good interview. Just the kind of discussion we need to have

[@Dave183]

Rubbish.

[@josephl9619]

@@Dave183 huge swaths of nz agree with both julian and michael on the various points in this discussion. Do you really think censoring such a large and increasingly unhappy part of the population is a good idea? I would suggest that might backfire

[@Dave183]

@@josephl9619 The fact that a lot of people agree with Julian's views on history- do not mean that the facts are correct...

[@josephl9619]

@@Dave183 If that is true then their views will be properly challenged in an open discussion. If its not discussed, they will go unchallenged. Or perhaps you are wrong. We need the discussion to find out

[@Dave183]

@@josephl9619 A good thinker will always question their own thoughts- and test their opinions by discussion. No evidence that Julian has ever done this...

[@HTDSNZ]

Far right, we are extremely right, or in other words 100% correct. Let's take that bs slur back and use it.

[@Colin_Izer1111]

been saying that for a while... far right = beyond correct.

[@Anonymouse405]

God loves ze right wing✋️😉💛

[@3tapsnu0ut87]

@@Anonymouse405 It'll need 2 wings if it's gonna fly straight!

[@cat793cdumpy]

I think this whole far left and far right name calling should be changed to far right or far wrong.

[@the1likenutez]

Far right = Racist coloniser bludgers, all old and dying off, scrooges

[@secondchance6603]

These days 'far right' just means people that don't agree with you or have a different opinion.

[@TheMarathonomahos]

Do you know who Julian is? He's far right.

[@Eohippus100]

Not only are people who don't agree with cogovernance called "far right" but also "racist"

[@masksarelies391]

​@@TheMarathonomahosno, he's just RIGHT

[@TheMarathonomahos]

@@masksarelies391 I think if you look at his history, you'll find he's much more than meets the eye.

[@jzkramer]

it really just means people who are under-educated and racist

[@poncholarpez6233]

Sir Apirana wrote an entire book on the treaty in 1922 and discussed it at marae around NZ. They back translated the Maori version to English. It proves Sir Kawharu completely wrong. Sir Kawharu ignored Sir Apirana's version and he also had a conflict of interest as a treaty claimant. All the law written on Sir Kawharu's version needs to be chucked out and we start from scratch at Sir Apirana's version. Lots of previous claims will need to be handed back to the government.

[@realistically-r7g]

Pretty sure Maori state they were immigrants,came here in boats like the rest of our ancestors ? ,just stating the truth ? Anyone else ?

[@jasperhorace7147]

So not indigenous‼

[@secondchance6603]

Nope, they were invading colonists who committed genocide on the peaceful indigenous inhabitants and now they claim they were here first, go figure.

[@allizdog5927]

Absolutely not indigenous. And anybody that states this should be corrected.

[@peterrhodes5663]

@@allizdog5927 UN have changed the definition of indigenous in relation to people. Look up the new definition. They did the same with the definition of vaccine.

[@tingtingshiney1477]

correct , and ngai tahu ( kai tahu ) originally from the north island of nz migrated south island and own 90% of it? the south island is not theirs, yet hello , paperwork changed that... everyone forgets they are a north island tribe

[@p.a.newman2672]

Censorship is the tool used when the Lie loses its power.

[@FRED-gx2qk]

Julian should be allowed to continue😎

[@StGammon77]

No, Julian is not far right, he's just right!!

[@francesbrown850]

Love it

[@billdennis3681]

You never do this to someone how is Far Left good on you Julian . Restore New Zealand .

[@FionaReid-c6m]

Restore? To what?!

[@brutallyremastered4255]

What? Can you try in English?

[@FionaReid-c6m]

Protect our AotearoaNZ

[@mjanny6330]

If hundreds of men waving swastika flags marched into my town, and that night I heard gunshots from the city center, all while the government tells me its fine and if I say anything against it I'm the bad guy I'd "arm up" too.

[@sueedwards9334]

The gangs have a lot of guns - that is well known - so why wouldn’t some people want to arm themselves. That doesn’t necessarily make you a nutter, as Michael seems to be saying, with a few eye rolls thrown in.

[@peterrhodes5663]

It's just insurance. No different than insuring your house, its contents, or your vehicle. People have seen what happened in Rhodesia and South Africa, and don't want it here. They simply don't trust the government to stop it.

[@FionaReid-c6m]

Julian Batchelor keeps on outing himself! He is FULL of HAT-RED.

[@richardmunford9352]

Utter crap I bet you can't describe one factual upheld comment he has made

[@shereerihari2691]

An excellent interview thank you both. Im not sure I am entirely comfortable with the wording of his booklet as some of it I feel is unnecessarily provocative however he certainly has the right to put his views forward. A pity msm will not give him a chance to speak for himself in the same way Michael has.

[@masksarelies391]

As the far left like to say, if it doesn't stir the heart, it's not controversial enough to be activism.

[@WenchNZ]

search for Skeletons in the cupboard, Gabby produced it, also Te Papa/govt embargo on non-maori artifacts found and held until 2063 (not to mention the ones destroyed cause they didn't fit the narrative)... Pyramids down Dunedin ways and the wooden carved idol found there which is now held in a museums basement, the standing stones (star/equinox maps) found all over. Big cover up of our true history has taken place.

[@woofwoof9647]

Celtic New Zealand by Martin Doutre 😊

[@davidtrotter7422]

Just found the link, thank you and I'll watch it.

[@Dave183]

A nonsense conspiracy theory.

[@calstonjew]

The White South Africans who survived were prepared and armed. Maori separatists won't play nice.

[@mjanny6330]

And they'll have all the power on their side.

[@cyrillawless]

There are a lot of things that five years ago I’d have laughed at and said it will never happen that are now true and a lot of things I’d have never heard of that look likely to come true. As far as the gun question goes. If there is nothing to see here why does the government seem so keen on removing guns from the public. Remember it’s to late to look for protection once the war has started.

[@greatwhite9428]

Removing firearms from the public so they can be handed over to the gangs

[@chrismckellar9350]

Rubbish. The government is not removing guns from the public. It seems that you happy to have criminals to have fire arms to push their criminal activities. The gun register is about keeping a record of owns what firearms.

[@StGammon77]

Maori Party and indeed other MPs are always breaching section 61, the hate towards whites is cruel and scary

[@FionaReid-c6m]

The HAT-RED against Maori is longstanding in this Country 😢

[@hamishwarren3278]

@@FionaReid-c6m BULL SHIT.

[@masksarelies391]

​@user-fe9oe2sq6q not sure what you're trying to say here. Try again, with English

[@FionaReid-c6m]

Hate toward whites is a new one🤔

[@FionaReid-c6m]

Um... Section 61?

[@williamearnshaw410]

Anyone who does not go with the Maori narrative will be constantly berated and and denigrated...

[@Dave183]

Rubbish.

[@williamearnshaw410]

@@Dave183 if one disagrees with the Maori narrative... They welcome you to have a say?... 😂😂😂yea right... Pull the other leg...

[@wetawatcher]

Julian Batchelor should read Michael Kings History of New Zealand if as he claims he’s a great reader.😎

[@realistically-r7g]

Julian no guns needed,just keep up the dialogue

[@joebloggs2862]

Julian it’s a honour to be far right labelled, I am one too .

[@LHNA130]

Of course he and anyone esle is aloud to speak their minds it’s called freedom of speech, one of the freedoms my ancestors fight for for this country. If you wanna know what racism is just look at “the Maori party” it’s in the name a group of people only looking out for themselves not the whole country....

[@LHNA130]

Stop co governance one people one vote one country

[@catherineutting8284]

Well done great interview....

[@hamishwarren3278]

Of course there were people here before Maori, who do you think dropped them off here as we sure didn’t get here on anything like the traditional looking waka.

[@StGammon77]

Of course they didn't there is no trace of wakas prior to Europeans teaching them how to fell trees and carve wood. Then they made what they imagined. I believe they came on Euro ships

[@paulmeersa7162]

Twin hull canoes Gents, take a look at Abel Tasman's drawings of them, and in particular who is sitting in them. The Dutch were the worlds best artists at this time, see how they even show the flax holding the bumpstrip on to the gunnnel of the canoe. Take a real close look at the occupants, the sizes of their heads, their hair - what do they look like to you...? :):)

[@hamishwarren3278]

Pirates 🏴‍☠️? Huge Red Bearded Vikings And whaler’s 🐳 needing paddlers n replace the scurvy crew , Picked ‘em up from up north as far as Taiwan 🇹🇼 dropped them off Pregnant and hungry. Arrrr a loif at sea haha.

[@michaelfasher]

They would have sailed twin hull vessels. The limiting factor is the maximum size of the hull cannot be larger than the largest tree to make it. To get bigger you need to go to a twin hull configuration.

[@hamishwarren3278]

@@michaelfasher they would have had to …, or they did …?? People can not just add b/s to history to make people smarter than they were 600 years ago

[@paulallen5025]

Can you sue the herald for liable?

[@lydiascl]

When you move so much to the left that centre is now right and right is now far right.. 🤔

[@MrFairlane58]

Excellent interview Michael.

[@masksarelies391]

The less Laws says, the better the interview.

[@Dave183]

More propaganda from Julian...

[@michaeld.1128]

The logical conclusion of identity politics, tribalism, racism and division.

[@billvella6048]

I'm Maaori (and European, like we all are) My wife is Maaori (and European) My Kids are of course Maaori (and European). I already practice co governance. We all do. We all vote. Batchelor has every right to hold meetings and talk about this stuff. Our media are not doing it. Our current Goverment don't want to talk about it even though they are trying to push it through. I look forward when (due to demographics) we don't have to worry about this stuff since most of us in NZ will be Maaori. We can consign all this divisive politics into the dustbin of history. We don't want to end up like Fiji. (I do wish Julian would not pedal quack theories about red haired Celts and Moriori (Maaori got here in waves, didn't arrive all at the same time). As for the Chathams, that was a genocide by later Maaori on earlier Maaori (who called themselves Moriori).

[@masksarelies391]

He's not pedling quack theories. He only provided his opinion, when asked, what historians have researched and provided physical proof of, that the govt are now suppressing.

[@Newscannet]

far right or right so far?

[@DW_Kiwi]

Both are sorely needed

[@3tapsnu0ut87]

Why was an option given from the UN that, upon ratification, gave indigenous people everywhere something different?

[@mjanny6330]

Because Europe and all its people everywhere is an enemy to the UN. Just look at who runs it.

[@williemrebekahmaclutchie-e7654]

its already here co gov,labour greens, nx b act, nats,nz 1st ok.

[@andreatodd3095]

Interesting interview. Yes it's a calling that needs to be addressed.

[@warrenblake5554]

Are you sure you have the right interprutation of Kawanatanga ? to my understanding it means Governance not Sovereignty ? I have friends whose name is Kawana in Maori and known as Governor in English, members of the family interchange the words , some known as Kawana others Governor , but they are the same whanau.. The signees of Te Tiriti agreed to being Governed which makes co Governance a breach of the Treaty . Rangitaratanga is Sovereignty in Te Reo , and the Treaty vouchsafes Maori Sovereignty over their own lands but not over land bought by Pakeha . The merging of both Maori and Pakeha into both has been an act of good faith , exemplified by the gifting of the National parks by Maori Iwi and Hapu to the Crown for the enjoyment of all .. The Labour Maori caucus and Maori Party are misconstruing the meaning for their own political agendas which are in breach of the Treaty .

[@StGammon77]

Totally agree

[@richardcox3713]

The Golden Bay Community Board and Councillors have published a statement in the TDC newsletter stating that they are totally opposed to the views of the Stop Cogovernance group. If your group were roughly treated in their recent meeting, how can you have a followup in Takaka? Can you expect to be protected by the police?

[@richardcox3713]

The Tasman District Council CEO should be asked if the Local Body regulations forbid this sort of action by a Community Board and Councillors and consequently should resign.

[@ObiePaddles]

Should every political party be doing background checks on everyone who votes for them? Also doesn’t matter if anyone was here before Māori for the principle of no co-governance.

[@standbytogo123]

It certainly does according to the United Nations Resolution on 'Indigenous peoples' that the previous National Government erroneously signed up to. Why erroneous? because Maori under the definition of Indigenous are not the original ie Indigenous people of NZ. They arrived from elsewhere by boat, as did most people until air travel became available.

[@StGammon77]

The Treaty baptised the native people from dark to light in Tikanga Christ, that is the Spirit of the Treaty Chiefs!!

[@StGammon77]

Im super far right and so? So what I am free to be what I want to be

[@michaeltoohey1385]

Michael Laws is incorrect, the Wi Parata case in which the Treaty was described as "a simple nullity", was in 1877, the 1860 Kohimarama Conference pre dated this.

[@bensutherland5066]

There is nothing in the treaty that has anything to do with equity.

[@annekevandenberg1635]

The main principle of the treaty was equality for all under one law with one vote. Co-governance is an unfortunate name. Co-management would have been better. There will always be left, center, and right. The thing is to keep a balance in politics and in nature. Maori and others have always worked well together, but things have gotten so radical now, and the United Nations are seeing things in black and white, but we have so many cultures under the rainbow in Aotearoa, and the truth is that we are all descendants of immigrants with recorded histories as proof. Education is the key and that is exactly what Julian is doing. Ignorance can be bliss, but it can also be dangerous. Maybe if Julian had the united tribes flag on display it might help. It is so sad and disturbing to see our jewel in the Pacific so divided. We need to get back on track to basic unity and openly co-manage the country under the main principle of the treaty of equality for all. Moriori will never get an apology because there are none left to apologize to. Think about it.

[@richardmunford9352]

Never was there any agreement on that Just equal rights as English folk

[@titiwhai]

Everyone know Tibetans were here before Maori.

[@StGammon77]

Yep for sure all those huge ships from the Vikings too they sailed the 7 seas!

[@olsaffa7679]

Everyone knows the moon belongs to America because of the moon landing. Get real. I don't have more rights than others because of some ancestor getting anywhere before someone else's. All citizens are equal.

[@Dave183]

Wow...!!!

[@philodonoghue3062]

Celts? Michael’s eyes said it all.

[@allaboutstress361]

Could someone tell me exactly what the principles of the treaty specifically mean .? Really interesting. Thank you both

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

The treaty is simple and has no principles, that is why they have to make them up after. Read it yourself, take you ten minutes at most, all the best

[@poncholarpez6233]

Any principles would simply be each article. 1. Agreed to be Governed by the crown. 2. Gave everyone equal property ownership rights and ability to sell it 3. Gave Maori equal rights with British subjects under the crown.

[@peterbishop1933]

Yes and they probably ate them

[@bennconner1195]

I am sceptical that there where Established European settlements in NZ before Māori arrived. These Europeans would have been able to develop iron weapons like the rest of their kin & and there is no way Māori would have been able to conquer them.

[@kj1483]

Section 61 of the Human Rights Act 1993 provides for a civil law remedy for speech which does, or is likely to, incite racial disharmony (for which there is no need to prove intent) and section 131 provides a separate criminal offence of inciting racial disharmony (of which intent is an element). The Human Rights Act 1993 is aimed at giving all people equal opportunities and preventing unfair treatment on the basis of irrelevant personal characteristics. One key requirement of the Human Rights Act 1993 was, it is unlawful to treat a candidate or employee differently based on their: race, colour, ethnic or national origins. gender Section 61 (1) It shall be unlawful for any person- (a) to publish or distribute written matter which is threatening, abusive, or insulting, or to broadcast by means of radio or television or other electronic communication words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or (b) to use in any public place as defined in section 2(1) of the Summary Offences Act 1981, or within the hearing of persons in any such public place, or at any meeting to which the public are invited or have access, words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or (c) to use in any place words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting if the person using the words knew or ought to have known that the words were reasonably likely to be published in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical or broadcast by means of radio or television,- being matter or words likely to excite hostility against or bring into contempt any group of persons in or who may be coming to New Zealand on the ground of the colour, race, or ethnic or national origins of that group of persons. (2) It shall not be a breach of subsection (1) to publish in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical or broadcast by means of radio or television or other electronic communication a report relating to the publication or distribution of matter by any person or the broadcast or use of words by any person, if the report of the matter or words accurately conveys the intention of the person who published or distributed the matter or broadcast or used the words.

[@saxdearing3395]

So what?

[@waynepike4337]

have you seen Catherine Delahunty and Shakeeds site, both of them completely bonkers.

[@pietdebeer7972]

Good interview, well done.

[@FionaReid-c6m]

😜One vote😆 MMP is 2 votes, party and candidate 🎉

[@toshadavinci5379]

FREE SPEECH NOT CANCEL CULTURE -END OF

[@masksarelies391]

Loved the way that Julian shot down the attempted attack on the claim maori are not indigenous. He had facts and a series of truth statements that buggerlugs couldnt deny. His only response was a "humfff". Good one. "All crazy people come across as sane until they start talking" Boom, Julian shoots that disinformation down so quickly. Love this guy.

[@mra4955]

Best way to get around the herald paywall?

[@drmantistoboggan2870]

Turn off your wifi as soon as the page loads. Sometimes it works

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

Not a historian, but a hysterian.

[@Anonymouse405]

...you☝️😁💛

[@JamesSmith-qw2vs]

True on the populace here when the maori arrived, as stated by their own mouths from the past.

[@bennconner1195]

Far right in relation to what though, if the National party are considered right wing, when they are hardly different to labour. So I imagine being far right in NZ isn’t that bad.

[@geoffstokes]

What do you have to have to be a "historician?"

[@UPTHEWAHSDAY1]

SHOUT OUT Michael Law! I love how you gudie a converstaion..

[@Dave183]

Julian held a meeting in my rohe- in a local hall. I read his booklet beforehand- and found that the meeting simply went through the booklet- for those who had never bothered to read it. So I left the hall after one hour- and spent some time with a local constable and a [literal] handful of protesters. Julian doesn't engage in discussion or debate. Maybe giving away his fundamental Christian views?

[@tingtingshiney1477]

25:47 really interesting. didnt know that.

[@philliprobertlawman2232]

😂herald 🤣😂😅

[@TheMarathonomahos]

Michael bite his tongue because ten minutes before this, Michael said Moriori were early Maori

[@joewilde.]

The moment any media outlet labels someone as a racist with no evidence they should be sued, I would donate to a legal fund to see this happen.

[@tracymichaelsen493]

Hasnt Julian got crazy eyes in the title image?

[@geoffstokes]

But the treaty was written in English first and then translated into Maori

[@poncholarpez6233]

Yes, the littlewood version was the one the Maori one was translated from.

[@FionaReid-c6m]

Stable 😅

[@brutallyremastered4255]

Yeah - be mostly South African and Pom immigrants talking of guns. We all know how stable they are. Those poor three children, huh? I bet Chinese are involved. WE do need to do full "background checks" on them.

[@SopwithTheCamel]

Michael reads left wing media like the NYT or the UK Times. I used to subscribe to the UK Times but it is a solid woke fake news outfit, so a couple of years ago I canned my sub.

[@realistically-r7g]

The Waitaha !

[@patriciatehaate236]

Are you coming to Opotiki 😂😂😂

[@peterrhodes5663]

Its scheduled for the day after the meeting in Taneatua.

[@patriciatehaate236]

@peterrhodes5663 still waiting I was gonna do a boil up just him 🙄

[@seapeoples9461]

Kawanatanga is a transliteration. It is not maori.

[@chrystalgail]

I can feel a Civil war coming especially if they try to push things like 15 minute cities, Has anyone seen the Maori Fishing Bill that is before Parliament, Yeap it's real there have already been some of our fishing spots closed already

[@peterrhodes5663]

Where are they? I know about the Opotiki stuff.

[@glenysharwood3457]

I have huge love for my brothers and sisters, no matter their ancestry. We all have a heart that beats, hearts and minds that hurt. We have different ways in our cultures, we choose to assimilate out of a desire to expand our appreciation of each other’s differences. We respect each other’s faith, sacred treasures. I enjoy our bi-racial heritage in this nation. It’s enriching, when you open your heart to embrace it. The more I seek, the more I’ve discovered the beauty of Maori ways and the hearts of the people. It hurts to witness this unfair representation by this group and it’s leader. I feel helpless to make him stop. So I trust the One who cares deeply for us all, who says “don’t lose heart, but believe that we will see the goodness of God . . . “ Psalm 27 verse 13

[@Drifty325i]

I think most of NZ agree with you, except we just want everyone to be equal, not segregated by race. That’s all Julian wants

[@basilwatson1]

hahaha Laws ,,, he cant cope !

[@Anonymouse405]

He's not quite connecting the dots yet! I remain watching in hope though 🤔💛

[@seapeoples9461]

So maori wanted protection? Please protect us from ourselves and the French and everyone else. We can't protect ourselves. We need the English to do it. Hahahaha😂😂😂

[@junk_rig_sailor1698]

"Buying guns for a civil war in NZ". -- this guy Batchelor is absolute NUT JOB

[@glenysharwood3457]

Covering it with the label “free” speech doesn’t hide the blatant racism. What do you call skin colour picked off at entrance? How would you explain it? Don’t say they caused trouble, I’ve see the many videos, people just arrive, do nothing, say nothing, but a person with certain skin colour called over to “chat”, often by Julian himself, or his “people”, while other skin- colour people waltz on in past them. For those being stopped the “chats” go like this: “ sorry you can’t go in”, “ why not I received this invite in my mailbox, all welcome, public meeting”, “no you can’t come in, it’s not a public meeting and I can decide”. End of. OR goes like this: “sorry you can’t come in”, “why not, I got an invite and I’ve registered”, “no, that doesn’t matter, this is a private meeting and you can’t come in”. In every case the rejected person accepts it calmly, some stand there for awhile watching the people with different colour skin not even stopped to be asked for registration or anything, they just walk in. It’s outrageous. What amazes me is how calm and dignified those rejected remain, as if they’re used to it, just suppress their rejection, because they know people like Julian hold all the power and will turn it against them. It’s part of his disgusting tour, that he knows he’s inciting racism, to justify his point of tribal rule, which is completely and utterly unjustified. Eg, the little town up north where he planted himself and has caused nothing but trouble for years. Prior to his arrival it was a friendly, welcoming location where everyone got on well, respected the whakapapa, the Waiora. Since he arrived, the peace has gone. Friendly atmosphere overshadowed by stress since he arrived, just him. He’s caused a lot of damage, knew it was a Heritage NZ site, with artefacts of national significance on the land, disregarded, wrecklessly damaged, fined and warned by council. Local Maori devastated, but he continued to alienate with his actions of disrupting visitors to the many special sites by blocking the pathway, caused sewage run over the cemetery. Never an apology. In his speech he says watch out for Heritage NZ, they ll send you a letter restricting action on yr own land. That won’t happen, you would know at time of purchase. He’s lying and scare mongering. He’s the one inciting racial disharmony, but then twists it to call his “.trouble” the result of “tribal” rule. It’s all a lie and he depends on people not researching.

[@whatthe6532]

Pretty good but you didn’t mention that part of the access path actually runs through Julian’s land.

[@Eohippus100]

The "man up" Maori group, who didn't come to make trouble, were welcomed

[@allizdog5927]

The meetings are infact private. Julian controls who goes in at the door. And has every right to.

[@peterrhodes5663]

My biggest ambition was to become a Maori All Black, however I was rejected because of my skin colour. The selectors are racists. Just because I'm a European. Also tried to join the Black Power. Even stole a Harley Davidson and leather jacket off an old bloke before applying, just to prove that I would fit the character requirements, however they rejected me too, for the same reason. Racists!!!!

[@IvorJones]

Julian the great deceiver

[@peterwiles1299]

Psychopaths seem extraordinarily personable and pleasant on first acquaintance. That’s the danger. JB seems inclined to the fringe.

[@overover..]

Should have stuck to co-governance where a movement is desperately needed. Michael you need to distance from this guy. The "ginger people" and " we are arming" chat will drive more centrists to the left than any sensible discussion could possibly pull to the right. They are going to become a powerful recruitment tool for labour. Expect to see the news flooded with them after comments like this