Podcast: Victim of Plagiarism by Christine Caine Speaks Out

[@LisaCharleneMusic]

(The Daystar "dynasty" has brought me to this channel, and now I found this video about CC...) Many years ago, when I was 20 years old, some friends and I went to a Youth Conference here in Norway. We had journeyed for hours and paid a whole lot for the conference tickets and travel. Big Christine Caine from Australia was the real hot shot at this conference - being associated with Hillsong and all... As we were taught in these circles that to come forward and be prayed for by the hot shots really could make things happen, I found CC and asked if she could pray for two things I needed prayer for. She wasn't especially nice, but I didn't think too much about that at that point. She prayed a short prayer - for one of the two things I mentioned. It bothered me that she didn't pray for both issues as they were important matters. But I didn't have the guts to ask if she could pray for the other matter as she didn't give me any signal that I was important at all. Now I'm convinced that I can just pray for anything myself or have someone else pray with me - I don't really need the prayers of a hot shot. But I had only been saved for about a year and didn't know much better. And I was a very young adult - and in Christ I was a toddler! So as it still bothered me, later that conference I went back to her and asked if she could pray for the other issue as well... Instantly she yelled at me... She was furious. Her husband was there too. I had to understand that she had prayed for me already and she didn't have time for this! I was in shock... This came out of the blue and I was not prepared. I got really hurt, but fortunately I got mad at her in stead of questioning myself too much - even though, yes, I felt ashamed. I don't think CC noticed anything because she was already gone, but one of the leaders for the conference was there and had seen it all, and I was on his case and asked him what he was going to do about this. I knew Jesus didn't approve of her behaviour. The leeder guy seemed as shocked as I was, and I remember him almost shaking his head in disbelief when he came back to me saying: "That was not good... This is not how it should be..." To forgive is very(!) important, but I must admit I've cringed every time I've heard her name or seen her picture after that. Not because I can't get over this and let it go, but because it was as if I saw what she was truly made of and I understood that if she did that to me, someone she doesn't know at all, what can she do to so many others in her path. She came across absolutely stone cold. Unfortunately she is not the only hot shot who's like this, I've seen several, but that's for later. But it is SO IMPORTANT to call all of this out, to protect the sheep from these wolves! That is the right thing to do!

[@mggraham4486]

I, too, am watching TRR because of the Daystar debacle. I cannot even verbalize the level of disappointment about the despicable acts of Christine Caine, Joni Lamb and Rachel Lamb. The hubris and audacity to deceive all of us who trusted that they were people of integrity! Surely, they would use their God-given platforms to not only talk about Jesus but to also show His heart of love and integrity, right? I feel duped but I know God is reminding me that I am to glorify Him and Him alone! I hope they repent for the deceit, disappointment and damage their selfish actions have caused. Thank you TRR for your honorable work!

[@SandraDavis-i3d]

Plagiarism is theft. Thanks for sharing your story. May God Bless you!

[@martiadams1]

We have to stop idolizing and calling these false teachers Christian.

[@joemo7384]

After watching this, I lost respect for Christine Caine's ministry. I read the several plagiarism comparisons and it's really sad. its not just one small copy, its several, very intentional. Carey Scott, the Lord is on your side!!

[@wendyhansen9481]

When I was doing my theology degree every essay was put through plagiarism programs, I once lost marks because I accidentally left out an end quote comma. In academia it is very serious. It is so disappointing to me that these publishers do not care if other people's work is being stolen. It is deceitful and people need to be called out. It is discouraging that so often those who speak out are the ones being judged and accused ("you just care about money") and the people who are lying and cheating just keep doing it.

[@starlingswallow]

To be abused as a child, is an egregious violation. To have your work stolen without credit is also a violation of personhood and one's story. Thank you Julie for this interview! The persons plagiarism is definitely a reflection of their heart and is unfortunate.😢

[@kathycollardmiller13]

As an author, I'm deeply saddened that Carey was so mistreated. I'm so sorry. I stand with you, Carey, in support of the importance of calling out ungodly behavior. Keep speaking godly truth that yes, as you say, "stealing is stealing" and God hates stealing. Thank you for standing up for all of us who share our stories and our ideas. Keep writing!

[@rhondamarckini2985]

It’s all coming out!! GOD Bless

[@johntobey1558]

Plagerism is illegal for a reason. Stealling somones intellctual property is stil considered a theft. Unambiguously.

[@tinaward1023]

Makes me wonder if anything these 'public ministers' say has any truth to it at all!

[@saga4353]

Carey, thank you for sharing your story. I am so sorry you were victimized. CC should absolutely be held accountable. I will pray that you receive what is due you.

[@fredbarnesjr.1044]

Caine should go to jail for this

[@suzannecampbell8226]

9​@f😮redbarnesjr.1044

[@needsmorecowbell1758]

Grateful for the Roys Report. There is so much of the 'bigger' leadership snuffing out the voice of the 'little' guy who is trying to do the right thing. And you give a voice to the little guys, in a fair objective way. Alot of people have been burned by the church, and feel alone especially when all they can see are others repeating and gaslighting. Also if others who aren't Christian get burned, it definitely kills the witness. Thank you for keeping them honest

[@TheCrazyElves]

This is so unjust, Christine should be ashamed!

[@maryalvarez2842]

Christine was just a thief

[@brendabacon2465]

Thanks for introducing me to Carey - a genuine woman walking out her faith in the midst of many trials. What a beautiful woman with an amazing testimony. I remember God teaching me early in my walk - "in small things - in all things" referring to integrity and consistency - if you don't have integrity in the seemingly small things - you don't have integrity at all.

[@NoGMOGod]

Thank you for exposing this. We ALL NEED TO KICK SATAN OUT OF THE BODY OF CHRIST...speaking up..and being bold.

[@pamparker3863]

I just came across this video and I think you both have discussed this topic with grace and godly maturity. Over the last couple years I have become very uncomfortable with the Christian circuit of speakers that seem to have made a business out of the Word of God. I am not against believers writing books and doing conferences but not all do them for the right reasons. To me it just confirms how we must be led by the Holy Spirit on who give our attention to and how they must never replace our personal time in the Word. God bless you both!

[@sarahconnor4757]

Very disappointed in Christine Caine. Will be unfollowing her. Her actions show poor character and a heart issue before God.

[@maggiesalle2256]

Well, Christine Caine did lose something. She lost my respect and support. 😮

[@Mrs.K-cq7kp]

Ditto

[@pedinurse1]

The sad thing is that Christines story is so so sad and pathetic, should we question the validity of that tale????

[@maggiesalle2256]

@pedinurse1 I don't know.

[@jacquelineshuttleton3489]

Now I understand why I've never been drawn to CC For some reason I get emails from CC but I never open them, I've met here here in Scotland & felt there's something off about her. I wondered if it was because she shouts a lot, but I knew it was deeper, more a spiritual characteristic rather than just something I don't like, i.e., shouters. Now I know it's because she's deceptive. I hope & pray she comes to a place of repentance & puts its right. I'm sorry this happened to you at the hands of a sister in christ & for the pain it's caused you. You did the right thing to distance your self from all things CC until repentance is achieved, & possible beyond repentance. Keep your eyes on Jesus . Love from me in Scotland ❤

[@NeeniesNest]

Leaving the church I attended 42 yrs after spiritual abuse has been one of THE most difficult wound I’ve felt and I’m 72 and have suffered much pain. I’m Thankful for the final words you spoke Carrie. I have felt it might feel very freeing to tell the truth about what it felt like to those who hurt me.

[@rdrift1879]

I really feel for Mrs. Scott. I hope she gets justice. That said, she should not be following or idealizing Christine Cain. Good heavens!

[@tm7654]

Carey, you are so authentic! God bless you in all your future endeavors.

[@zippojinx]

This kind of stuff makes me sad. That no one is being held accountable for doing this to someone over money and fame

[@laraderksen4297]

What kind of person does that? I hear you and see you and am so sorry that you’ve been violated and stolen from in this way. I pray justice comes for your sake and for Christine’s too. Sweeping this under the rug doesn’t do anyone any good.

[@ljlou5746]

I was once asked from an assistant to a very well known pastor/author to be part of a team to read and summarize books in detail. She would have us write up summaries of the books and turn them in to her. This well known leader was so busy with traveling and meetings, now i see how he could author so many books. I dont know if someone higher up had the task compiling everything into another hit book. I declined the offer. Unfortunately i once sat in a Christian writing seminar a year they discussed doing the same thing! But, happy to report, i know other christian authors who really teach how to write a book. They are the real deal!

[@valeriemott3120]

Julie Roys- thank you so much for your excellent reporting! It’s no wonder those outside the institutional church, whether believers or not, point to hypocrisy. They are right. We will only rise as high as our leaders. When we’re called to follow those who follow Christ- we need to be SO discerning. May the era of the Christian celebrity die- quickly.

[@watchingpraying7763]

My respect for Roys Report and ALL that you are covering just grows by the day. Thank you so much for this podcast and for so many other festering wrongs that WILL someday come fully to the light. Your work will someday be publicly honored, though I'm sure it is currently still misunderstood by those who want their idols to remain in place, untottering. God help us. And God bless your work in His service!

[@melissaschubert1653]

Maybe Christine Caine doesn’t have her own story - scary - awesome that you spoke out!!

[@needsmorecowbell1758]

I was thinking this same thing, especially if there may have been multiple instances of plagiarism

[@fredbarnesjr.1044]

Christine Caine, Brian and Bobbie houston, Carl lentz, Jason mays-these so called hillsong “leaders” are all FAKE PROPHETS and need to be IN JAIL for the crap they’ve done to innocent people…Mrs Scott, so glad you spoke out against Caines plagiarism and called her out for her evil actions, please know you have my full support

[@gillianzohnert2323]

Thank you for letting us know about this amazing author

[@buckeyewill2166]

Thou shalt not steal…

[@karie431]

Thank you for sharing your story. It's confirmation for me.

[@LisaCharleneMusic]

To me as well.

[@nylabadis4477]

Thank you, Julie and Carey. Powerful!

[@cgm1786]

I NEVER want to follow a false Christian speaker-author. It is one thing to do something wrong, but another to refuse to accept it and apologize. I always trust the Lord to bring to light these individuals. We should never try to hide their sins. Glad I watched this report.

[@KAC-5555]

I no longer listen to Any Evangelicals . It’s just sickening .

[@racegts]

Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

[@fredbarnesjr.1044]

@@racegts there is no baby just dirty water full of 💩

[@lindajohnson4204]

People who pretend to be about the gospel should not confused with people who believe and share the gospel, even if the politicians who have co-opted the name think the gospel stands or falls on their politics, and allow their political cronies in religion to get by with murder. It has exactly zero to do with the gospel. Most of all, do not hold the gospel accountable, for those who scoff at it, and use up its credibility.

[@maggiesalle2256]

I am still a Christian, but I have problems with my former sect of Christianity.

[@deborahgonzalezknight168]

I never did. Listen to Derek Prince.

[@momomama4175]

Christine Caine’s claimed her way to overcome past trauma is to “forget the past”. She made it sound so easy. It makes sense if she just copy and paste someone else’s trauma. That is thievery and extremely low if true.

[@thelegendarylou2335]

If true? Are you for real?

[@lalagomorph]

I so appreciate both of these ladies. These healing words from Ms. Scott toward the end (not much after 44:00)... (Speaking about abuse... ) "It's the hardest when it's from somebody in the faith; because you feel like you've found a team, and you kind of let your guard down, and so when that happens, it catches you off-guard and you just don't see it coming. " Those words are so validating and so canceling of the shame I have felt in a situation where I was being manipulated to compromise on boundaries that are important to me... my guard was down because of a close-knit community I'd thought we'd found... Thank you to Julie for making this space with such grace, and to Ms. Scott for sharing openly and articulately.

[@jc2636]

I want to investigate Christine Cain, because our church’s women’s Bible study will be using one of her books. I don’t align with the movements that she represents and so I have my radar up. I was looking her name up tonight on KZbin and this came up. It’s good to know, what’s happening in celebrity Ville in the platforms that are supposed to be representing Christ. We need to know who to sit under. I’m going to suggest maybe that we go through your book :-) or at least I definitely want to buy it. Thank you for sharing your story.

[@amelian9677]

I love this! I want to read Carey’s book too.

[@ObservationStation_77]

Don’t listen to Christine the thief.

[@Party316]

Thank you, Julie, for another fine podcast. This is heart-wrenching. This poor lady has had a series of awful experiences - how beautiful is it that she still sees God's goodness and faithfulness through it all and authors books and devotionals to encourage others - no matter what their plight. How awful to be betrayed by - as you put it - a Christian 'celebrity'. Christine Caine has a great testimony and seems to be doing a great job with A21 - but now, I'm not so sure I trust her testimony anymore. I don't really know if she is on the front line of her ministry of A21 because she is a keynote at many high-paying Christian conferences all year. I read her book 'Unashamed' and remember reading the very section mentioned in this podcast. It stood out from the rest of the book - now I know why. I also tend to remember reading that these books require a 'team' to write, perhaps based on Christine's talks, and if this is the case, maybe someone on Christine's team has let her down in this instance - someone she was depending on to write her book for her.

[@PamalaNEW]

No! Sorry! It was her not her team! She was confronted with facts and still refused to acknowledge! She's sheisty!

[@Marlaina]

Watch discernment videos on her teachings. She's a false teacher who is very focused on "self".

[@jesuschristislord264]

Was Christine Caine repentant? Did she apologize? I am shocked. 😔 She should have apologized and taken all of the questionable passages out of her book. Also, another thing I found out from Julie's videos that I don't understand... how is it acceptable in general that people don't write the book but put the name on it, and it's ok?!? On the cover they should honestly write "I didn't write this book, but my staff writers did." 😅

[@jesuschristislord264]

*put THEIR name on it

[@fredbarnesjr.1044]

No she wasn’t repentant so she should be IN JAIL

[@thelegendarylou2335]

​@@jesuschristislord264: we understand. We got ya❤

[@tracyanncoe4586]

I am PRAYING Christine Apologizes To Carey,Please Lord!!! If she has not already done so ❤In Jesus Name❤Thank You Father God 🙏

[@Angel-tt8tq]

God bless this woman🙏🏼🔥☝🏼

[@renatahuster4861]

How can they do it? It's a business to them!

[@laureeniannucci4878]

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing.

[@renatolson3464]

FABULOUS, thank you for sharing this truth and Carey Scott's story. God forgive us.

[@lm6272]

Wow! Ty for being brave enough to share the truth. God has been "waking me up" THIS YEAR. All of Julie's reporting and others reporting on "these types of people". I feel so duped by so many of them......then here comes Daystar. God kept prompting me to not be fooled and look at their lives.......well, lots of media coverage on so many of these people have woke me up to stop listening to these people who say one thing, but live another behind closed doors. God bless you and I pray you get justice soon.

[@LisaCharleneMusic]

Carey Scott, I'm so sorry you had to go through this - it's so crushing to the soul to be stepped on like this! And by a leader you look up to makes it SO MUCH worse! One can really wonder what spirit CC and her team is of.

[@Kjorchids-55]

Great podcast👍

[@jacsfalconer1929]

Oh my word, what an insightful and emotional interview. Love to Casey Scott, and onwards and upwards with your great work. 👍👍👍

[@arletas8406]

Thank you for this😊

[@lenarsa66]

Again a sign that we too often choose to put trust in ppl for the wrong reasons instead of character and "christlikeness".

[@pamelalanehaun7156]

Excellent interview, thank you.

[@tammypage7388]

Wow😲 truly ungodly actions by one who says they represent God's Kingdom. Just keep standing in His truth & light! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Now, FATHER GOD is revealing this wrong, which is breaking of many of the commandments. Also for Caine who says she's for women & girls but then exploit/use you. Hypocrisy The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY will bring recompense to you dear sister for this great injustice.

[@arletas8406]

Mrs. Scott I was fwd this by someone thank you for this mine is very small scale (church hurt) but I understand the shrinkage. And it's been something am currently am dealing with and praying that I am coming through on the otherside!!!

[@thelegendarylou2335]

Arleta: hurt is hurt. No small scale, or big scale. Your church hurt is no less significant or less painful than mine or Mrs. Scott. ❤❤

[@thelegendarylou2335]

Backstage passes to the adversary's speaking engagement? That speaks to the mindset of these 'bigger than God' , gods. 😮

[@arlenehayles1892]

Thank you

[@tammypage7388]

Pray against the Spirit of greed in our nation and around the world, it's the real source/spirit behind all that's going around the world & its head needs to be cut off. Woe to those who say evil is good & good is evil, as we are saying & were seeing is the real pandemic all around. Several years ago now Holy Spirit removed me from listening to all these mega (Pastors, ministries) & their books too. I didn't realized it @ the time. But I want to hear Holy Spirit of God than these pple. Now it's truly full exposure time of so many evil, nefarious things/behaviors/sins going on. Nothing is hidden that wont be exposed by HIS powerful Light. We are there!! Those who absolutely refused to repent are all the ones being exposed right now these last 3 years especially. I'm so sorry & FATHER GOD will protect, provide & bring great justification for you & your family. Blessings and Shalom to you both ladies!!

[@cherylcoleman7538]

Carey, God Bless you for standing up to the Goliath because I am sure this stretched you. God will vindicate you

[@tamiwilliams3073]

❤❤❤❤❤❤ BLESSINGS CAREY!!! THIS HELPS ME TODAY IN MY BATTLE.

[@lolitacoppage1523]

Good for you Carey...This is a wake up reality call that we need to know and understand.. The enemy has wolves in sheep clothing ..so called well known, A listers ..standing at podiums, singing and or speaking .. center stage in the Christian community. God Reigns Supreme.. be of good cheer.. He will not be mocked. .The so called mighty fall. In His Kingdom, an Infant born in a stable became our savior. A shepherd boy became a king...He does an awesome job representing the so called commoners.. We all must give an account one day. He will vindicate you and His other wounded sheep. That's a promise.. Keep standing sister.

[@lindajohnson4204]

Who was it, exactly, who coined the phrase, "wolves in sheep's clothing"? Was He being unduly negative, when positivity is so much more _attractive_ and desirable? Or did He know what He was talking about? Then I will not listen to these people who insist that there are no wolves, just bonafide brothers and sisters in Christ, whom we are required to believe mean well. There are more wolves than ever, with more nefarious intentions than ever before. We have to forgive them, but that does not mean excusing them, or saying no harm done. We have to not allow the sin to become the new standard, because if our God is real, the standard has not changed.

[@ivanasimic2072]

Support!!

[@daisies4444]

I love the sword/pen on the wall, "The pen is mightier than the sword."

[@TheCannonofMohammed]

This was such a fantastic interview. Wow. This gal displays so much Christian maturity. You did a very good job, Julie. (I'm still trying to figure out what your Bethlehem Baptist interviews were about; all I could think about was what a bunch of 1st world whiners.)

[@NoGMOGod]

Never fails...if I dont care for someone who claims to be a Christian..I repent, ask God to help me love them....then, farther down the road I hear they are not what they claim.

[@steladimi4785]

Never heard of Christine Caine. Saw this video and decided to look for some of Christine's videos and listened to what she says... looks like I didn't miss much. Commercialization of the Christian life for profit. Got it. Pass. And basking in borrowed glory is never acceptable.

[@susettemclachlan8765]

This just confirms that reservations I have had over a number of well known Christians over a long period of time, can be trusted aothem one by one

[@Billybo-22]

Leaders who sell books get away with writing crap all the time because it sells. Editors are nonexistent for them.

[@jeremiahchapman513]

Julie - have you already completed an investigation into the whole industry of Christian book publishing and speedily formulating high unit counts? Similar to your work on the worship music charts and live sing payouts. I had a coworker who worked with folks at Multnomah under Random House once explain that even the “this book is great” blurbs at the front of each book are collected by influential voices before a final draft is ever ready to read. They are given the general idea of the topic and either character bios or their personal relationship with the author (as a fellow speaker, pastor, professor), but the endorsement is worded as if specifically for the book. I also knew a couple “ghost writers” in the way mentioned here… very common. Largely because the author’s name and representation of the topic is of the foremost concern and they “don’t have the time” to actually write a full book again once their name gets out. The book becomes more of a press piece to “warm the audience” for the larger product build… conferences and speaking events. Similar to how musicians don’t make much of anything off album or song sales, their individual income comes from their concert tours and merch sales. So, the plagiarism is almost the least of our worries as Christians… why do we even need to use a clearly “culture-honoring, not God-honoring” marketing systems to get the message of truth out? “The ends justify the means” is a verse in Notinthebiblemiah 15:87 … so I could be out of line 😂

[@melaniekahleh17]

I feel kinda torn about the topic of plagiarism. John Osteen, my pastor of late, used to say, please copy, print, and do whatever you want because I want to get the truth out..we paid very little, even a couple of dollars for his books and did whatever we could to get them into the hands of others.. the books were full of personal struggles and revelations released during the battle...it was about helping people not protecting the stories. I'm not saying I disagree with Carey but when it comes to truly helping humanity it feels like it's Gods property. But at the same time, Time is money and people have to live..so I can see from both sides.. may God continue to heal those hurting from SA and rejection.

[@Mary-hs3gu]

I’m so disappointed in Beth Moore having Christine on a Living Proof event. I’m a year late with this comment, but Christine Caine is a major proponent of the prosperity gospel also.

[@Wanda4849]

Birds of a feather lie together!

[@deborahgonzalezknight168]

I saw Brian Houston in Madrid. It was appalling. All the pastors were like mafia. So much ego on display.

[@eveelsbury8341]

God is a God of prosperity but listen to what christine says. Very little talk of the true prosperity of a son of God. Lots a begging, promotion of desperation, lots of circular talking and waiting for God to come thru. . Look at the organizations christiane is connected with. She doesn’t hide it. Please take a more serious look at what christine is saying and not saying. Just accusing her of “prosperity preaching” is minuscule in the big picture.

[@seekthetruth824]

People that make those silly comments are just silly, probably very young, or very inexperienced with life. Everybody sees them as childish, so no need to defend. hats off to you for commenting on it, and it would also have been good to overlook, its totally okay, biblically. sometimes you answer a fool according to folly, and sometimes you don't.

[@seektruth9820]

Play with snakes, you're going to get bit!! 2-Peter Chapter 2 heretics everywhere! That's why God has given us His Spirit of discernment!! God Bless!

[@zzadoKK]

Julie, I know this is 1 year old and this story deserves a follow up at some point. BUT all plagiarism, copyright infringement, violations of intellectual property is STEALING. Substantiating the action of this type of stealing is simply go to the written record which Carey did. This is deliberate by the one who did the act and of course then you have an entire apparatus of publishing that is also complicit and knows they are on the hook. Good work.

[@emilywest1302]

I looked at a video by Christina Caine on finding peace and something just didn't sit right in her appearance and her delivery too, stepping forward and backwards like a puppet and the self conscious use of her hand gestures and the deliberately unattractive hair and the trying to conceal any figure she had in black. She was talking about peace but I felt the same intensity of many celebrities in the tension of the delivery. Wolves in sheep's clothing

[@mcgarrtirishgal3903]

48:42 I don't know about the whole 'Christian celebrity' culture, I don't believe its biblical and may even be idolatry...🤔

[@laurens8623]

We are told to live quite lives aren't we in the bible. I'm over all this christian fame.

[@alisonkulatea2989]

This is so sad ❤❤❤Christine is an Aussie girl and can’t believe this ✝️🙏❤️I am so sorry to hear this ❤😢🤷‍♀️

[@thelegendarylou2335]

Well, believe it because the infamous 'pete' is also aussie. And I absolutely love love the 'roos'...

[@PotterSpurn1]

The only book you need to read is The Bible. There are far too many celebrity pastors on the circuit, most of which are spreading a fase gospel and other pointless best life now' type self-motivational mush based on personal annecdotal accounts. I think God must be very grieved knowing that his name is being exploited in this way by so many who seek to bring a 'self help' emphasis into their writing, instead of just preaching the Gospel and clarifying the Bible. The Gospel is all we need and that is free of charge.

[@lindajohnson4204]

I think that we can write as a means of communication with others, and not insinuate that we are any particular authorities who must be obeyed. We can give people a heads up, let them know that at least one other shares their concerns, and point them toward Jesus, just as we can in speaking. But you are definitely right that the Bible is the only book that is necessary.

[@bethpressley7063]

what is the ARK, or ARC? You referenced The ARK Lead Team

[@louonUT]

I don’t understand how it crosses a Christian s mind to steal someone else’s work let alone steal anything.

[@srivera6111]

I stopped following C. Caine 6-7 years ago. I believe the Holy Spirit led me away from her ministry. Now this report solidifies my decision.

[@Unboxyourcrown]

As a new author, this was disheartening to think that Christine Caine with a platform would steal, copy, take ownership of something that God didn’t give her. The fact alone that she did that is one thing, a huge other when she can’t go to another believer, acknowledge what she did to this woman in a humble way. This was scary, made me lose confidence in the authenticity of these platform preachers, teachers. We all need to unfollow and to the idiot who told you to be happy that she stole your personal, difficult testimony that was a spiritually immature person but guess what this may be another book about inauthenticity on the platform. Your brutal years are going to be a launching pad because it all resonates with people you’ll continue time to touch.

[@renatahuster4861]

Christian celebrities???? Oh dear!

[@nancysoto4632]

1 Corinthians 6:10 … A person that’s unrepentant of their sin ( stealing) will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

[@tcondron1871]

I wrote a book, 'Wake Up The Mighty Giants and Watch them Roar ' to then have my book stolen by Christians that moved to South Africa and established a publishing company using my book and called themselvesc, 'Zion Publications'.

[@justme8101]

I'm sorry to hear that. God sees all 🙏

[@RC-nz9zd]

With all this software out there and professors can detect plagrisim but these massive companies won't??? Love how people told you to rethink your priorities but clearly their priorities were the ones for monetary gain. I agree Julie it is all about the big bucks. Some people don't understand - if you put up something as art but you dodn't paint it, or you are at work and someone else takes credit for your ideas and execution and then let's say gets paid for your work, or during a race takes a short cut and ends up in 1st place because they weren't caught -what would those people say then. These companies are betting on the probability of no one finding out about their plagrisim. It is so easy if you like something from another author reach out and cite it! It doesn't take away from your writing. I can't imagine a non-fiction book other than an autobiography not having any citations. Even original scientific research - the world I come from - has pages and pages of citations. If those types of books don't have ang or minimal citations - it is a red flag. Writing is a gruelling process and these mega pastors I imagine don't have enough time to sit down and write multiple books. Kudos to you for being brave! Jesus was rately angry - but we should read again why Jesus over turned those tables. Thank you Julie for being a voice in the wilderness.

[@pAusten]

I see Caine is still being advertised on TBN.

[@NoGMOGod]

You will know them by their fruit. Even a 5 year old knows that its wrong to take something that doesnt belong to you.

[@pedinurse1]

I wish Christine at least had talked to you. I know that sometimes these writers have other people write their books or cowrite the books. I wonder if maybe Christine didnt want to throw them under the bus but really she should have confessed and come clean. It really did tarnish her testimony and I couldnt listen to her anymore. I am sorry this happened to you. This stardom platform is toxic😊

[@NoGMOGod]

Taking something that does not belong to you, is STEALING. ~~~The Lord.

[@AR-rz3tk]

Please, investigate pastors using "Docent".

[@lindajohnson4204]

And the ones using sermons they buy from Salem Radio/Communications, which is likely even more common than buying from Docent. If they just said, "I'm borrowing a sermon I want to share with you, from Bro. so-and-so", it would go a long way toward making borrowing sermons a little more acceptable. It would actually make it honest. But in places where Christianity is new, it is common practice for the uneducated pastors to preach from what they heard, and learned from, on the radio, etc. That is so understandable, and so different from this.

[@thestraightroad305]

I’ve thought Julie might investigate Docent.

[@randyjennings9853]

Many of the leaders have forgot what Jesus said. Let the greatest among you be your servant. We will give you a backstage pass? Your kidding me.

[@hanichay1163]

Totally understand how you know people will think you are just sour grapes when you say something negative about a church celebrity. We found out a huge lie that only my husband knows. But what is the use-no one will believe it. The celebrity even had the nerve to invite us to VIP seats (we didn’t go) to the speech when he told the lie to millions!

[@roniverson9282]

Who was it? I will believe you

[@laurens8623]

Is that Jerry Jenkins dallas s father.

[@shoshanas5251]

Colossians 3:23 ESV: “Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men”. I think it’s good you spoke out so that we are warned. But it’s time surrender the outcome to your Father for the sake of your heart & peace in your soul. Didn’t he also say he will reward openly whatever is done in secret? Go to your secret place & tell YHWH God everything! He is your vindicator not the court of public opinion. Shalom.

[@tinaward1023]

Julie I love your hair short like this, beautiful 👌

[@thomasmcgeown2672]

Caine is just another Prosperity Gospel feel good guru Fraud

[@NoGMOGod]

Exactly Carey...your testimony is YOUR testimony. If the Apostles did this, we would have a much smaller bible.Remember, Cain killed Able.

[@thelegendarylou2335]

Back stage passes to the adversary's speaking engagement? That speaks to the mindset of these ' bigger than God' people.

[@manueapengeorge8449]

Christian celebrity? Pakistani Intelligence? Chinese Vaccines? Indian Anti-corruption Bureau? 😅

[@laurens8623]

Love your hair Julie. SIDENOTE

[@deborahgonzalezknight168]

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