About the Berber/Tamazight languages

[@raoufrachedi8903]

Hey! I am Algerian Berber , I am so positively shocked you made a video about my native language, I am huge fan of your channel and work ! Keep it up

[@AeliusCaesar]

Azul fellak, kech d' aqvayli ? Nek zi tamurt n Dzayr

[@raoufrachedi8903]

@AeliusCaesar oui Kabyle , Azul men Boumerdes

[@AeliusCaesar]

@@raoufrachedi8903 Nek zi wilaya n S.B.A And I'm learning different varieties of tamazight . F la fin dyal video qalet ida t-préfero l'utulisation dyal 'Tifinagh' 'ⵜⵉⴼⵉⵏⴰⵖ' wella la. Wach Rayek ?

[@raoufrachedi8903]

@@AeliusCaesar tifnagh is definitely more authentic since it's our alphabet, so it definitely needs to be revived and taught and used

[@kot9701]

@@AeliusCaesar personally its the same thing for me its just that writing in tifinagh is more of a hassle because you need to download the tifinagh keyboard and learn the layout so i just write it in latin xD ketchini d asnoussi ? llan win mslayn s tmazight di sidi belabbas ?

[@Mirifaw_Akukazi_icici]

I'm a Berber from Morocco.. Why am I watching this within the first half an hour it's published.. I just want to say that ⴰⵣⵓⵍ, Azul, the main greeting is something beautiful, Because Aẓ= get closer, Ul= heart... Which means like by greeting eachother our hearts get closer. This and the expression inɣa-yi umarg-nk, literally Your music is killing me, to mean I miss you.. is poetically beautiful but that only in Shillha Berber... Cause for me as a linguistics student, Shilha is totally a different language, Kabyle is another different etc

[@kuroazrem5376]

Azul fillawen.

[@Croviajo]

I don't think that's true because Amazighs use Tassa instead of Ul for anything emotional. For example, to say my hearth (to mean my love), we say Tassano(my liver)

[@helenamcginty4920]

​@@CroviajoI believe that way back the emotions were thought to be seated in various organs by different societies. The ancient Greeks also chose the liver.

[@埊]

აზულ სურინენ ლჰა.

[@Abdelhaqueidali]

ⴰⵣⵓⵍ is not ⴰⵥ ⵓⵍ. nice try by some amazigh to explain it that way. What is actually correct is ⴰⵀⵓⵍ and after this word was taken from the tuareg to the north they changed h to z thus ⴰⵣⵓⵍ which some tried to trace back its origin but failed so they tried analizing it, and the close thing they came up with is aẓ ul but not correct. The same wrong was done to the word tifinagh and seperating it to tif and nagn meaning our discovery, but actually it is from the verb Afnagh or ifnigh that means writing. so tifinagh may be translated to writing/inscriptions (as tifinagh was engraved on ricks)

[@TheGribblesnitch]

Shoutout to Saharan Blues musicians who have music mostly in Tamazight languages, like Tinariwen, Mdou Moctar and Etran Del'Air

[@torturachina6452]

+1

[@BlueDusk95]

Not blues, but one should mention the late Kabyle singer-poet Idir. "A vava inouva" is the first worldwide hit from independent Algeria.

[@SarahHaddid]

For your lnformation, the Tuaregs are not lnvolved in this "Amazigh" movement.

[@akalaberkan]

​@@SarahHaddidbut SarahHadid is😅

[@julius9055]

Imouhar!!

[@Never-mind-]

Azul 🙋🏻‍♀️a native amazigh here from souss tribe Morocco 🇲🇦 happy to see someone talk abt our ppl ty ❤

[@Boobajo7213]

In algeria, we have 10 different amazigh dialects. Mine is ichawin. And we have : tekbialit, chnawi, taurgi, mozabi, shlouhi, senhaji...and many more that are closer to each other.

[@Ijustwannarestinpeace]

شاوية من ولاية خنشلة مرت من هنا تحيا الامازيغ وتحيا الجزائر ❤

[@AsgatinDortexus]

chnawi , touargi and chawi are shared with Tunisia also ^^

[@SawsanYasen-nu5vo]

​@@Ijustwannarestinpeace😂😂😂😂

[@Ijustwannarestinpeace]

@@SawsanYasen-nu5vo ذباب الكتروني

[@NOORSALGA]

I'm from Nigeria 🇳🇬 I love Amazig,they are very nice people I have met them in Niger,Mali,Morocco and Libya shout out to all Amazig around the Globe.

[@BouzidGhouzli]

And algeria!

[@NOORSALGA]

@BouzidGhouzli Yeah of course Algeria 🇩🇿 bro.

[@moMoeXe]

And Tunisia🇹🇳

[@ISRAELbloodRunsInOurVeins]

Lol

[@NOORSALGA]

@@moMoeXe Yeah Tunisia 🇹🇳 also I have been to Tunisia and Algeria 🇩🇿 but I have never met any of them mostly I found them in Libya 🇱🇾 Morocco🇲🇦 Niger 🇳🇪 and Mali 🇲🇱.May Allah bless them all they are very nice and wonderful people.

[@kamilyanaitabbou1710]

Im also an amazigh from Azilal Morrocco and i really loved your work in this video.... love

[@khalidben9940]

I am a native Amazigh from Marrakesh, Morocco. I am so proud of this ancient culture of Tamazight and I will absolutely try to preserve it. Thank you for this amazing video

[@mhm8113]

Il faut denoncer ce vd elle a divise la carte marocain

[@timothywcrane]

@@mhm8113 And you must denounce the French language when discussing the Taureg and cousins, all maps made by Picot and ilk etc... this could go on forever. Just say thank you and learn.

[@mx5518]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@Design19832]

Why your map is cutting?

[@ISRAELbloodRunsInOurVeins]

It's Mauritania you disgusting monster​@@mhm8113

[@Edvoo]

This is so well and richly researched and structured. I wish more KZbin content producers followed your example. Many thanks for your very enjoyable and informative work.

[@amina__osamu]

ⴰⵣⵓⵍ ⴼⴻⵍⵍ-ⴰⵎ, I am a Kabyle from Algeria, i have to say that I am really astonished about the fact that you know the grammar basics of the Tamaziɣt Language.

[@theanglerfish9852]

Please don't let this script die. It looks so awesome! :v

[@boutaharnourelhouda1864]

No its not dying😂her worries are unnecessary we have them on all ours jewleries and walls even if we can't all read them

[@Alexcatchh]

Theres so many laws for it

[@blvckskull7954]

It's not dead. We just don't learn it. We even have hard time learning Arabic because most people are not interested in both languages. We mostly learn European languages for economical and educational reasons (Spanish, French, English, German, Dutch, Italian). When we learn Arabic we mostly do just to be able to read the Quran and understand western Arabic speakers.

[@mimi_0122]

I am Amazigh girl from the moroccan RIF regioon, born and raised in Germany. Tysm for this video and educating people about it!🤍

[@ultemetdestruction6497]

I'm an amazigh a riffian , happy to see this vedio

[@Espoir86]

I’m Kabyle Amazigh from North Africa and I enjoyed to see the video which loaded with information I hope a lot will benefit from it. Thanks a lot the content of this video.

[@aytaf5430]

I am Amazigh, and both my mother and father are mono-Berber speakers, so I think I have some insights. Sentence Structure Changes Based on Tense, Subject, and Object Sentence structure in Tamazight changes obligatorily depending on the tense, subject, and object. Here is an example: OVS : ‘I will call you’ (Object: masculine singular, Subject: masculine singular, Future) 'Ra-Dac-ghrgh' Ra: future Dac: Object, masculine singular ghr-gh: verb + Subject, masculine singular OSV : 'We will call you' (Object: feminine plural, Subject: masculine plural, Future) 'Ra-daw-nt-n-ghr' The Prevalence of Fricatives: Tamazight has many fricatives. However, in the standard language, some fricatives were not included (mainly because the educated people compiling the dictionary were city people who dropped the words that used them) As a result, some of the more obscure fricatives overlapped with the "normal" uvular, velar, palatal, and post-alveolar fricatives. The Lack of Vowels: this is especially noticeable when you hear native speakers.

[@MrNyathi1]

That's really cool! Changing sentence structure is typical of Germanic languages, too. In Afrikaans: Ek gaan winkels toe [I'm going to the shops]. Gaan jy winkels toe? [Are you going to the shops?] Het jy winkels toe gegaan? [Did you go to the shops?] It changes from SVO in a present tense declaration to VSO in a present tense question and SOV in a past tense question. I'll strip out everything apart from ek (I), jy (you), gaan (go), and winkels (shops) to make it clearer: Ek gaan winkels [SVO] Gaan jy winkels? [VSO] Jy winkels gaan? [SOV]

[@dukeon]

My head spins just thinking about changing the actual structure of a sentence for grammatical reasons, although I guess in English we do invert the Subject and Verb when we put a statement into question from. Ex: I am tall. Am I tall? Or if we wish to be poetic: _Along the sea-wall gathered endless birds, their feathers licked by the sun._ Still, it seems much more common in Tamazight. Also it’s really distinctive sounding. You can tell it’s very, very old when there are many dialects, even some which are considered separate languages. @aytaf5430, your knowledge of linguistics is impressive! You too, @MrNyathi1. Thank you both for your sharing your comments ☀️☁️

[@debras3806]

What are some examples of the obscure fricatives?

[@senorpuzle5018]

Some years ago I tried to learn tamazight, but due to my lack of exerience in "autodidact" language learning I quited. Thought that, I keep this beautiful language in my memories with affection. I was so happy to see that you decided to talk about it.

[@darkprince6953]

hope u try again bro

[@senorpuzle5018]

@darkprince6953 Thank you so mutch! And yes, I have planned that in the future I will try again when I get more experience in linguistics.

[@darkprince6953]

@senorpuzle5018 good luck bro

[@埊]

გოოდ ლუცკ, ყოუ'ლლ ნეედ იტ.

[@senorpuzle5018]

@@埊 თჰანქ ჲოუ სო მუთჩჰ!

[@fe6523]

Thank you for sharing apart of my people culture/ language !!

[@yanisk948]

Hey Algerian Shawi here (Tacawit speaker), I want to add a little correction if you allow me. The Free/Annexed state is not really a case. Nouns are basically always in the free state except -when it follows a prepositon (Most of the time this is when you use the annexed state !) -when it follows a numeral -when the noun is a subject AND placed after the verb (the case you showed). (note that Amazigh is not strictly VSO so there are cases when the noun is nominative but is not in the annexed state so that's why you can't call it a case)

[@AeliusCaesar]

Tacawit or Hacawit ? (هشاويث) ؟ Anyways ... I'm a fellow Algerian ... nch d'asnusi & Tasnusit is quite similar to Hacawit/tacawit both are Zenati languages

[@yanisk948]

@@AeliusCaesar Yeah it's often pronounced as a "h" or a "th" but by convention the best thing is to right it as a "t" since it's pronounced as such in other dialect of amazigh. And yeah Zenati languages are so close ! We should even make a Zenati standard !

[@AeliusCaesar]

@yanisk948 I like the idea of Standard Zenati language

[@khalilmokhtar5122]

I'm Tunisian Amazigh, you did an excellent work keep it up!

[@amir1780]

Where are you from in Tunisia?

[@khalilmokhtar5122]

@amir1780 Tataouine but I live in Tunis

[@amir1780]

@@khalilmokhtar5122 nice im also Amazigh but I'm from Kef and I live in Austria

[@khalilmokhtar5122]

@@amir1780 that's cool bro, do you still speak the Shelha ?

[@amir1780]

@khalilmokhtar5122 there are still a few thousand speakers in the Villages around Kef yes But I don't im currently learning it

[@lilianalouli]

i'm Algerian tamazight and proud of that .greetings to you and dedication to your lovely work and content 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@philrobson7976]

I was blown away by the beautiful script of the Berber language. While living in Morocco I sent many messages to friends in Canada using the direct transliteration of the Latin letters to Berber. Kudos to the Moroccan government for recognizing and supporting the Berber language as an integral language of the country.

[@thrplm2152]

The recognition of the tamazirt language by Moroccan and Algerian governments came only after years and years of fights. A lot of people died before getting the recognition. You can look for the Kabyle black spring in 2001.

[@sofienehafiene1477]

Il n'y eu aucun mort au Maroc pour la reconnaissance de la langue amazigh, et la langue amazigh a commencé à être introduite au Maroc des les années 90 bien avant 2001. L'histoire du Maroc n'a rien avoir avec celle de l'Algérie.​@@thrplm2152

[@drunaisis9797]

Kudos for what? Allowing indigenous people to speak their langue on their own land!? I assume you want kudos because your colonial ancestors didn't completly whiped out indigenous in Canada too? 🤯

[@rayk7307]

​FYI, "Arab" Algerians and Moroccans are genetically just as Amazigh as the Amazigh identifying ones​@@drunaisis9797 They are called Arab because they only speak an Arab derived language and not an Amazigh language. The difference is not genetic.

[@sparklemotion8377]

​@drunaisis9797 Amen, I really don't understand this thirst from so-called, proud Imazighen from those who wiped out the natives and put them in reservation like an endangered animal. How proudly we grovel La7 may katten aritka tarouyout

[@sofbel5739]

Azul! At last .. the video I was just waiting for so long! 😊

[@Imadskhairi]

I am Amazigh, born and raised in Italy. But when I look at photos of my mom, grandmother, and great-grandmother when they were young, it makes me happy for who they were and what they preserved. thank you for this video

[@mamannan2698]

Impressive presentation as always by Julie. For the first time in my life I am hearing the Tamazigh language and feel thrilled! Well done!

[@renatofigueiredo603]

The alphabet is amazing. Unfortunately there are very few books teaching Tamazight, and some of them show Latin alphabet for the language. I would like to learn it.

[@samaval9920]

France, US, etc. have Amazigh immigrant organizations that produce média in Amazigh, French,!English,Arabic?,?etc.? Some have French, English, etc. vidéos,websites, etc. Perhaps you could ask them?

[@samaval9920]

Also, US & other countries have co.‘s that produce multi lingual translation machines, similar to Google Translate, which A) May include Amazigh? B) If not,perhaps you could ask them to include Amazigh in future models?

[@SarahHaddid]

This is Himyaritic alphabet, used by nomadic Arab sharawis. The script is named Musnad, no such thing as Tamazigh.

[@Zariel666-e2w]

@Sarahhadfid shut up you arabian racist. You killed a lot of Amazigh people and stole their culture. Stay in you shar9 al awsakh

[@HH-ug9rh]

@@SarahHaddid wrong! do say stupid things! they are totally different alphabets ! what the hell with you arabiszed north africans? why you are so stupid?

[@jonathanfinan722]

Never use "Better Help". Awful money grabbing charlatans.

[@ripsanskrit3609]

😮

[@thumper8684]

Seeing that sponsorship is an insta-ditch for me nowadays. They use unqualified therapists. They do not respect confidentiality. They openly supported the IDF at the start of the genocidal campaign in Gaza. You will lose followers.

[@SHAGG13]

THErapist... Of your mind and check book.

[@mohamedabdelaziz4802]

I’m a therapist, I’m not sure you can really call better help therapy. I just hope people don’t form their impression of what therapy is from that, it’s the opposite of what is possible in a long term person-centered therapeutic relationship.

[@Almeda07]

Very inspiring, I'm born French from Malian origins (Bambara/Dogon, and Amazigh Tuareg) feels good to lean more and more about those cultures, thank you for making them shine, 👌🏿

[@dukeon]

I’m fascinated by Dogon language and culture! ☺️

[@soufouboultif]

An Algerian Amazighian here (Chaoui), i'm so happy to see this detailed video about my native language. Thank you so much for making it. I hope manny people will see it and know that North Africa will always be Amazigh

[@Croviajo]

ⴰⵣⵓⵍ, I'm a Tachelhit native speaker, just some corrections: Tamazight is not the name of the spoken language in the Atlas, the name is: "Central Atlas Tamazight", also the number of native speakers is waay more than 14M, it is estimated to be between 25M and 30M, because just in Morocco the number is 13.8M. Also, the number of Tamazight languages in Morocco is 6 not 3, people always believe it's 3 languages because the remaining 3 other have a few speakers (like not more than 100k people)

[@imax2000]

They are mainly 3 ones but of course within each other there some tiny differences based of tribes and areas.

[@Croviajo]

@imax2000 actually there is Tarifit, Tachelhit, Seghroucheni, Senhaja de Srair, Ghomara and Central Atlas Tamazigh. When you said tiny differences you are talking about the dialects of each language, for example the Eastern Middle Atlas Tamazight has two dialects : Ayt Seghrouchen & Ayt Warayn

[@hanineaalou437]

الأمازيغية لغة واحدة في البدء وتشعبت أو انقسمت إلى لهجات متعددة حسب المناطق التي انتشرت فيها...

[@Croviajo]

@hanineaalou437 sorry I can't read Arabic

[@hanineaalou437]

@@Croviajo Berber was a single language at first, and then branched out or split into multiple dialects according to the regions in which it spread...

[@gimi5502]

Awesome video! I love learning about Amazigh history and languages. I met a Tuareg man from Nigeria years ago and he showed me how he wrote his name in Tifinagh and I was so amazed at the script. Rich and beautiful culture and incredible how spread out they are from the oasis of western Egypt to the atlantic coast of southern Mauritania and northern Senegal.✨

[@1lyac]

Thank you for the video! I am an algerian berber, and I prefer the latin script for daily use, and the tifinagh for symbolic use (road signs, government buildings names...) which corresponds to the status quo in Algeria :)

[@MichoKoki]

زعما يرضاو عليك😂

[@chillchill9127]

I AGREE ☺️☺️

[@immkk1125]

@@MichoKokiشكون يعني؟

[@MichoKoki]

@@immkk1125 باين لي راه يضربلهم فالشيتة، راه ناسي من بكري حنا وياهم عديان

[@DrinkingStar]

Always fascinating to learn about the world's languages from you.

[@binderchannel9454]

Their traditional custom goes very well with you, Julie. Keep it on.

[@qimaralfasi6428]

I am from Amazigh descendants. I learned more about myself in this video. Thank you. The language is not spoken in my family anymore. The last person who spoke it in my family but passed.

[@saadsalman6641]

Which language is spoken in your family now?

[@Brancoladage-zk3xr]

@@saadsalman6641what do you think?…ofc darizja…can’t you see he’s an Arabized Berber (I call them Berbers, coz they don’t deserve to be called amazigh)

[@anirbellahcen5551]

We all refer to our language Tamazight. For example here in Rif, we say "Thmazight". Siwer s thmazight = speak in Tamazight. We call ourselves Imazighen, singular of Amazigh as you said. You read or hear some say "Tarifit" especially from non-Amazigh people but this term is totally modern to just distinguish between Imazighen of Rif from others. So other Imazighen labelled with other names by non-amazigh people and the racist regime of Morocco but we call ourselves Imazighen.

[@Serendip98]

I recently discovered Idir (A vava Inouva, Ssendu...), and I like it much more than Arabic music.

[@MrNyathi1]

Have you heard raï? It's generally sung in Algerian Arabic and/or French, but I think some Berber languages are also used. It's an Algerian genre, so even though it's generally sung in a dialect of Arabic, it's not really Arab music. Arabic music comes in loads of different genres, sung in different dialects (and regional dialects of Arabic are closer to distinct languages), and they differ a lot in sound and intent. The word raï means something like "opinion", and it is generally very opinionated, secular, often political. And very energetic, raucous, even discordant - and I mean by Middle Eastern scales/modes. About as different as one could possibly get from Saudi religious music, or an Iraqi love song. For that matter, if you enjoy exotic techno-esque music, Acid Arab is worth exploring, and if you'd like to explore more chilled stuff, Yasmine Hamdan does some amazing Arabic triphop. If we're going for very Berber music indeed, you could do a lot worse than Tinariwen (Tuareg musicians from northern Mali/Azawad), but I'm guessing you have listened to them. I'm not saying you have to enjoy any of these recommendations. Just suggestions of MENA music I enjoy, which you may also ;)

[@ryadmane]

​@@MrNyathi1shoutout to you for being so passionate about north african music!!!! love from algiers

[@ترحيل_لمراركة_من_الجزائر]

He's from Algeria 🇩🇿

[@Serendip98]

@@ترحيل_لمراركة_من_الجزائر He’s an authentic Algerian : a Berber.

[@carlosortega7695]

The way u pronounced the Word IMAZIGHEN i am 100 % sure that u r an AMAZIGH lady....i am Mohamed originaly from Rif but living in Canary islands...great work!!

[@pedroarroyo345]

Awesome as always juli, i had never heard of this one

[@ninostarbest3203]

Hello me too I am a algerian Berber I am suprise cuz you are the first person there I see made a video about my native language and I live in bejaia and we talk taqbaylit and at Tizi ouzou they talk tamazight

[@fatihsivri1458]

Thank you for the video. I didn't know much about this language before I visited Morocco two years ago.

[@zaliSaad]

Omg so shocked to see you video too ❤😂 my language is so deeply in my heart ! ❤

[@lexplorasophe4963]

In Breton we also have the concept of collective, that can become singular with a derivation, AND this derivation makes the word feminine to ! Karot (Collective) / Karotenn (Singulative and feminine)

[@profpartout6609]

and also a VSO language, no?

[@lexplorasophe4963]

@@profpartout6609 Breton is rather a V2 language, but maybe the other Celtic languages are VSO. I think we can have the answer within the channel Langfocus

[@armasukkomarkkulahanke125]

Welsh does it have too: moron [carrots] vs. moronen [a single carrot]. However, not all singulative nouns derived from a collective noun are female: winwns [onion] becomes winwnsyn [single onion, masculine]; plant [children] > plentyn [a child, masculine].

[@MrNyathi1]

@@lexplorasophe4963 There are quite a few similarities between Celtic and Afro-Asiatic languages (of which the Berber languages are one branch). To the point that quite a few linguists believed that the two were related, or that the Celtic languages were at least influenced by Afro-Asiatic languages, a theory now generally discredited. The linguists of the time thought the influence was from Semitic languages. But if there's any influence on Celtic grammars from Afro-Asiatic languages, geography and archeology would suggest western Berber languages such as Guanche or Moroccan languages. The biggest problem is that there don't appear to be *any* words of Berber origin in Celtic languages. I can think of one way around that, though. The Celtic languages are Indo-European, but the speakers of those languages, and neighbouring peoples who have shifted to Romance languages (such as French, Provençal, Catalan, Spanish) derive significant ancestry from older cultures whose languages have been almost entirely erased. If Berber languages had influenced the grammar of those languages, and then that substratum had in turn affected the Celtic languages, the hypothesis of Afro-Asiatic influence on Celtic languages might have some validity. Considering how little Gaulish and Celtiberian have influenced the grammar and vocab of the Romance languages spoken in France and Iberia, and considering how little Celtic influence there is on English, the notion isn't entirely preposterous.

[@akay2833]

I'm Amazigh and it's so cool you made a video about our beautiful language! I'm learning it and I want to preserve it because I'm attached to my Amazigh identities. Today is the 4th of January, soon Yennayer (the 12th) which is the Amazigh new year (we have our calendar) soooo happy new year 2975, yennayer ameggaz!

[@Pingthescribe]

I love your cat! Thank you for the yhe great video!

[@Coasterdude02149]

This may sound wrong but I heard this language many years ago from musician Mike Oldfield. The rhythmic section at the end of the first side of Ommadawn is in Tamazight. Only now did I look up what it mean and got a translation. This section has ALWAYS hit me on a primal level, filling me with joy and I play it over and over again. It speaks deep to the soul.

[@moMoeXe]

Tunisian🇹🇳 Berber from Beja,Tunisia♥️ Shout out to my family in Morocco&Algeria we are ONE♥️

[@amalmeroul6397]

C’est drôle nous on a Bejaia 🇩🇿 vous beja 😂 ❤

[@chillchill9127]

OMG ❤❤❤. THAT WAS WONDERFULL. Thank you so much. It was accurate, well documented and perfectly reported. I have goosebumps. ❤❤❤

[@HusseinAbbasAl]

I'm Iraqi and I love the Amazogh and Berber people😊

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

We are Amazigh better known as "Berber" However we do not call ourselves "Berber". Thank you for your kind words

[@mattwillis3219]

Wow thankyou Julie, this is an amazing language I have never heard of super cool!

[@AissaAissa-k5k]

Thanks from Algeria ❤

[@AeliusCaesar]

ⴷⵣⴰⵢⵔ

[@LakshaDeirwa]

Amazighen people are Amazing people, they have great Music and Culture, Azul from Somalia.

[@light8058]

Algerian amazigh here, Kabyle to be more precise. In my region, they taught us tamazight at school, using latin alphabet (but modified, there's no 'V' , 'P' and 'O' letters and we have other letters like 'ɣ' 'č' 'ḍ' 'ǧ'). They did teach us how to read tifinagh but we don't use daily. When we read books, or when writing we use the latin one. I think it's easier and faster to write latin letters than tifinagh one. As long as we don't use arabic script that's fine by me.

[@zimriel]

when we were in algeria, everyone conducted business in french b/c the arabs refused to learn kabyle and the kabyle refused to speak arabic (which in algeria was a particularly inept version of arabic anyway)

[@TheThornbird21]

@@zimriel Arab is not an ethnicity it means arid desert, and I’m certainly not a habitant of Arabia (a given name by the Romans) So the arabization of the North Africans was merely political and religious.

[@simonbirnovo5007]

Just a 4.5 million speakers in Algeria ?! This statistic included just the Kabyle region !

[@AnyaGomad]

I am an algerian Amazigh, I am so happy to encounter with this video

[@MarianLuca-rz5kk]

Well done video, like always. Congrats and good wishes !

[@vakhtanguri]

Julia! Always good to see you! Special love from საქართველო!

[@Aghigate]

Good job! 👏 I really enjoyed your video and appreciate the depth of research you've done. I have a small note regarding something you mentioned at 7:45: You said, "... even though the modern population of the Maghreb mostly speaks Arabic, genetically they are still Amazigh by blood..." You're right, we're are Imazighen genetically and culturally, even though some moroccans claim to be arabs because they think they speak arabic! Well, in Morocco, we don't actually speak Arabic per se. The Moroccan Darija, while it borrows much of its vocabulary from Arabic, is structurally and phonetically influenced by Tamazight. For example, Darija lacks "Mothana" (the dual form in Arabic grammar) and instead uses the number "2" with the plural, similar to Tamazight. Many expressions in Darija are also direct translations from Tamazight. The Darija is heavily impacted by Tamazight (phonetically) Because of this, Darija is best described as a "Creole" shaped by Amazigh speakers, which is why Arabs and Arabized people don't understand the Moroccan Darija without translation. They reply with: "I don't understand you, could you please speak Arabic", and this isn't because of the speed, but the structure itself. Moreover, no community in the world actually speaks "Standard Arabic" in daily life; it is a learned language used in schools and written texts and News If we are to say that Moroccan Darija is Arabic (considering it an arabic dialect or arabic itself), then for consistency, we should also say "Tamazight dialects" instead of "Tamazight languages: " Thank you again for your amazing work! 🙌🤍🤍 Keep it up 🤍

[@charlesvanderhoog7056]

The picture shown when Julia talks about the desert-dwelling berbers conquering Egypt is of Ramesses III defeating the Sea People.

[@darktyrannosaurus22]

The Ramesseid dynasty was of Lybian origin

[@taimurmuhammad3848]

Hello a big fan of you. You did your research amazing. Still waiting for my request on Pashto language. Keep up the great work

[@kafir5801]

Claiming that Tifinagh emanates from the Phenician alphabet is very wrong. For example: there is an inscription in Tifinagh in the Great pyrmaid of Giza: at that time, Pheonicians did not even exist.

[@BenAlArabi]

@@kafir5801 😂😂😂 tifinagh literally means from the Phoenicians

[@kalyaamirouche6009]

every alphabet in the world came from the Levant kzbin.info/www/bejne/boGVn3SgapV_mrs

[@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765]

have been enjoying your channel since the latvian video and delighted to see yet another of my favourite languages next to georgian (mainly for the most beautiful script ever), plus ainu, sámi, gothic and now... tamazight!!!

[@dukeon]

A real language lover! 😊

[@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765]

@@dukeon a love affair that's run for close to 50 years now!

[@longinzaczek5857]

Thanks for this video. I was intrested in Berber/Tamazight languages.

[@Sania-my4er]

We are the people of Morocco,🇲🇦🇲🇦 the Amazigh Moors, and we have the largest Amazigh people in Morocco. We differ from the tribes of Algeria and Tunisia even in our traditional customs. Even if some words resemble the tribes of Algeria and Tunisia, we are completely different from them.

[@SJking-gk4go]

Greeks calling foreign language and people "Babarians" We, presently calling foreign language and people we dont understand quote: "Sounds greek to me" 😊

[@Uriel333]

Barbarian meant non-Greek, don't apply modern definitions to ancient affairs.

[@MrNyathi1]

​@@Uriel333 It's a joke. They're not using the modern definition of barbarian, but rather, the ancient one. They're pointing out an ironic reversal of roles. The ancient Greeks labelled other languages and peoples "barbarian" because it sounded like the people were just saying "bar bar bar". Nowadays, English speakers say of foreign languages they don't understand, "it's Greek to me". Do you see the irony? The very same people who labelled the rest of us "barbarians" for our unintelligible languages, have ended up with their language being used to mean "unintelligible".

[@globetrotter5751]

Greeks or Vandals?😂😂😂😂

[@Uriel333]

@@MrNyathi1 other languages use a different word for that, so only in specific contexts and also it would be actually ironic if and only if that had happened to the language in question, in english it was never the case that the word barbarian was used in this way, so no, there is not a single drop of irony in the use of the phrase "it's all greek to me"

[@MrNyathi1]

@@Uriel333 Okay my guy, you can win the debate. I just didn't want to say you have no sense of humour. But it turns out, you don't. Have a nice life.

[@kaoutarmouatacim2127]

I'm an amazigh from Moroccan Southeast, and people here use tashlhiyt as a first mother language, I'm definitely proud of being unique even in our language, I want to mention one thing that the last statistics in 2024 shows that the amazigh population is increased in the last few years, and I feel very sorry that specific and unique language is going to pass out , people prefer to teach their children foreign language and forgetting their ones , my message here is please teach your children your own specific language so that we could keep our heritage, identity and culture alive, other foreign languages They can learn them at school for sure 😁❤

[@YT512llc]

There is a theory that these Berbers might be survivors of Atlantis. One location for Atlantis is "The Eye of the Sahara" located in Western Sahara. It was destroyed, possibly by Tsunami? I get my therapy by doing recycling. Very therapeutic! Spread the love and support this channel if you have extra wealth! Legacy of Love.

[@torturachina6452]

I only know that "agrom" means bread Very good video (as always)

[@AeliusCaesar]

ⴰⵖⵔⵓⵎ (aghrum) is Bread 🍞 ⴰⵎⴰⵏ (Aman) is Water 🌊 That's u'll survive if u get lost in the Sahara (ⵜⴰⵏⵣⵔⵓⴼⵜ /Tanzruft) ... And u find some Tuareg nomads 😁

[@MO_ONE_RO]

Aghrum

[@torturachina6452]

@MO_ONE_RO That

[@gerardmichaelburnsjr.]

Thank you very much for this video. I had always wondered about the Berbers and their language because of the interesting part they played in history several times, and I only wish they had been writing history in there earlier days.

[@Revitalization4241]

As a Berber myself i wanne add some things. First. Berber doesn't come from the word Barbaroi nor does it mean Barbarian it was a mistranslation made by some scholars and many amateur activists took it as fact. Gabriel Camps a scholar in Berber history also did disagree with the psuedo-fact that Berber means Barbarian. Ancient Egyptians also documented the name "Berberata" And Libyan Berbers in the middle ages also called themselves "Barbar" besides the word Amazir(Documented by Leo Africanus), a famous book made by the Libyan Imazighen in the middle ages was called Kitab Al-Barbariyyah. Secondly. Amazigh means "Noble man" not "Free man" it was again a mistranslation and amateur activists took it as a fact. Third. The word "Azul" is a recently made up word done by amateur activists from the "Berbere academie" The real word for hello is "Ahul" it was even documented in Chenoui/Haqbaylith dictonaries made by the French. Fourth. The fast decrease of Amazigh languages happened early, it happened after the Hilalian migrations, the Ottomans only accelerated it. Fifth. We are a patriarchal people even tho our women play a important role in passing traditions, our Izerf(Cultural law) is being enforced by the Imgharen/Tajmaat who play a important role in Amazigh central life and only men are allowed to be Imgharen. Sixth. The only Arabic speaking maghrebi's who are of Berber origin are the pre-Hilalian mountain speakers like Jbala, Ghomara's, Kabyle Hadra, Trara's, Ghiata's they are real Arabised Berbers and the real Hilalian speaking Arabised Berbers are the Blida tribe's, certain tribes in Tunisia like the Mogods for example. However most Arabic speaking Maghrebi's are of mix origin or are genetically far from Pre-Hilalian speakers and Berberphone Berbers what is now showed on many illustrativeDNA results and Gedmatch. Could you pin this reaction so that many people can see it? Any how good video you got a like:) P.S Every intellectual Berber will choose Latin because it's way more practical for our language's to survive.

[@telebubba5527]

Very interesting post and it confirms what I already have found out about the subject. I personally do not have a connection, but I do have a 'strange' surname of which I long could not make heads nor tails from. Until I was watching a programme on Discovery Civilization in the early 2000s about the Guanche of the Canary Islands. They told about the migrations of many of them to Marocco because of the Spanish occupation. So I had a look on the map (Google Earth) to see if I could find traces, which I didn't. But I did come across something closer to myself, namely a town in the Central Atlas area which bears my name with 'ma' added to it. I also came across it in Niger, close to the border with Nigeria with one letter difference, but I have family who have that difference in their name. I came to learn that the vowels are less important and that it is mainly about the sound. And even that can differ quite extremely as I have found out. As far as my family is concerned, its a French name and it can be traced back to France to the first half of the 18th century. It could very well be that that forefather left Marocco after the death of Moulay Ismail Ibn Sharif. I find it curious, that it has no meaning at all in French, but that I do find similarities within Amazigh area's. And even stranger to find it in Niger which is not exactly known to house people with white skin, as I have. Anyhow, it must have been important to that forefather to have it registered during the Napoleonic era. With all the research that I have done and followed it all over the world in its many forms, I only have an inkling of what it really means. I do gather that it is a very, very old word/concept which traveled the world together with mankind, since it can be found in many, many languages in some shape or form.

[@nouredinebensaid2118]

apparently the word barbarian is an onomatopoeia of bara bara outside outside!!! shouted to the Greek and Roman invaders who had become barbar or barbarus under their understanding because they only knew how to say that about their language!! After the territory was called barbaria and later to differentiate themselves from the barbarians the Greeks and the Romans shaved their faces hence the word (barbe) beard taken from barbarian like the horse of this territory was named barb and the fig of cactus which is abundant is called the fig of barbaria later the term was used for all those outside the Roman Empire which did not submit to Rome!!!

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

Our north African ancestors never referred to themselves as 'Barbarians.' The rest of your claims are also misleading, an attempt to deny our genetic cluster, which is not merely a 'result,' and you’re trying to present it as a 'neo' concept. Why are you doing this?

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

Furthermore, there is no peer-reviewed study indicating that Moroccans, or the majority of the so-called 'Arabic' speakers in Morocco, are a mix of (i.e., 'Arab') and Amazigh (indigenous North African) ancestry. This claim is unfounded and lacks scientific support. In fact, all studies to date show that there is genetically no significant difference between an Amazigh (or 'Berber') individual and someone who identifies as 'Arab' in Morocco. There is barely any Arab DNA present in the Moroccan population. Additionally, neither (a)DNA studies nor platforms like Gedmatch support the notion of an Arab genetic influence in Morocco. Unless one misinterprets the term 'Natufian' as synonymous with 'pre-Hilalian', which it is not, this assertion does not hold up to scientific scrutiny. The Natufian of the Levant is merely just one of the components of an ancient population that contributed to the indigenous North African cluster (Amazigh), alongside the Iberomaurusians and the Iberian Neolithic. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@didissonant5699]

probably the most truthful and relevant post, thank you.

[@cloudy7828]

finally someone took a moment to introduce these language to broader audience 🙏

[@akinayamakachi]

The tifinagh has nothing to do with phonecian. Tifinagh emerged from the south desert to the north.

[@joalvarado8506]

Tifinagh descends from Libyco-Berber which itself descends from Phoenician or its early form of Proto-Sinaitic. But it is true that it had only survived in the South among the Tuaregs before Kabyle scholars borrowed it to create Neo-Tifinagh which is now used across North Africa. The Tuareg branch is also the most conservative although the western branch has the fewest loanwords.

[@akinayamakachi]

​@@joalvarado8506 Nope. There is no link between Tifinagh and "Phoenician". I am sure you have not seen how "Phoenician" looks like, neither compare them. Two, thee is no such thing as "Phoenician", the term is just invented in the 19th century.... That's not how they call themselves and they are not mostly from east side of the mediterranean... Completely different.

[@joalvarado8506]

@@akinayamakachi You know more than the researchers who’ve dedicated their lives to this? With the exception of a few African scripts, every script in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East descends from Egyptian hieroglyphs through the Phoenician alphabet or its earlier form of Proto-Sinaitic.

[@akinayamakachi]

@@joalvarado8506 Indeed, I do.

[@Marwan-_-7m]

@@joalvarado8506but they are others researchers that found tifinagh inscriptions that were so much older than Phoenician

[@intergalactic2393]

everyone is a berber in north africa one way or another, that's why north africans are one of if not the most mixed people on earth

[@kuroazrem5376]

This is my favorite languages.

[@masi3459]

Now I understand why the Arabic dialect in Morocco almost doesn’t pronounce the vowels, either. The pronunciation of words are much faster than from Arabic in the Middle East. There it seems they tale more time for it. Also, only when I learned the Arabic Moroccan dialect (darija) and knowing some classical Arabic I discovered my Tamazight had a lot of Arab words but pronounced differently. Sometimes we even use more classic Arab words than the darija. I’m a tamazight from the Rif Mountains.

[@fabulouschild2005]

Interestingly, Scottish Gaelic also adds a /ə/ sound between consonant clusters. Strange coincidence

[@AbnormalVega]

Wiki: In medieval Irish and Scottish (from queen Scota) legend, Scota is the daughter of an Egyptian pharaoh and ancestor of the Gaels.

[@fabulouschild2005]

@AbnormalVega interesting

[@LuisAldamiz]

Seems something natural, especially when in your speech consonantic clusters feel cacophonic. Basque approaches the same issue (cacophony of consonant clusters) differently by inserting a neighboring vowel: thus "librus" ("book" in Latin) became "liburu" ("book" in Basque), however there are exceptions such as "libera" ("pound" or historically also "French franc"), which comes from Latin "libra". In this case the "e" almost certainly works like the /ə/ and is actually pronounced similarly.

[@samaval9920]

In ancient times, Celts lived in now Ukraine & in S of Russia. Later, some migrated straight to W Europe coast, A 2nd group, including Scots , went S to modern Turkey, then to modern Spain for 2?!centries, even described in old stories then N to Scotland, perhaps some Amzigh already lived there before the later Amazigh & Arab conquest of Iberian Peninsula?

[@LuisAldamiz]

@@samaval9920 - No, the Celts almost certainly coalesced north of the Alps in what is now Germany and Switzerland. They had precursors living in the steppe but so do all other Indoeuropeans. We can only talk of Indoeuropeans at that stage you mention, not of Celts, Germanics or even Iranics.

[@icenarsin5283]

So lovely to listen to as always

[@MajVikas]

what do you mean in total? where did you got your information because it s not true only in KABYLIA are more than 12 millions speakers

[@zimriel]

Also I'd thought the tqablit language was very different from rif and tuareg, like it split off during the Bronze Age

[@Stelios.Posantzis]

Great episode. I was often curious about the Berbers and their language and this video is great as a general introduction to their history and language. Great looking script too. I don't know why they think it's complicated to learn/use--especially when they only have three vowels. I doubt it would take someone literate more than day to learn the basic letters at least. I really like how geometric it looks. Ok maybe that last statement does not mean that much. I don't think that every language out there has to adopt the Latin alphabet or the script of another major language. I like languages that preserve their individuality. As is usually the case, reality is never quite that simple, especially when politics step in.

[@tigraiembeba4447]

I am a Tgrayan. We also use t for feminine. Also much small things are small and cute. We also have the subject and verb a word.

[@sumis8096]

Languages are fascinating. Never static. Forever evolving. We also always yearn for the past because of the comfort factor. We resist change. Languages are alive and tend to evolve organically. It will be hard to force it to remain the same. Thank you for covering this language. I was always fascinated with it (language, music, culture, and food of North African region)

[@AddoDe-s2w]

ber is an arabic which means wilderness like arabic colloquial word barra which means out. Arabic Language is one of few languages that is based on roots. You put 3 or 4 consonants, you have created a new root 🫚.

[@Espoir86]

She is talking about Tamazight and not Arabic so don’t get confuse interlocutors.

[@yakut9876]

​@@Espoir86He has a point.

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

Are there any examples of Guanche writing or language? Is "Free People" the inspiration for the desert "Freemen"in Dune? Gotta be, yeah?

[@luizfelipebjcosta]

I don't know what you're going through (2:51), but may the Lord help you, bless you, guide you, make you experience the best moments in your life and through you other people too 🙏

[@thesharkormoriantm274]

In Canary Islands Spanish, a good bunch of words come from the Guanche language (which is considered Amazigh, not a distant cousin of), mostly words referring to nature and place names. As an example, "tajinaste", which is a type of plant endemic to El Teide volcano, the third tallest volcano in the world. We can see the Amazigh feminine structure in the "t" at the beginning and end. (The word ends in the vowel "e" because of its absorption into Spanish, that does not allow most consonants at the end of a syllable). Other examples of Canarian place names that are feminine Tamazight nouns are Tacoronte, Tajogayte, Tamaraceite, Tamaduste or Tegueste. Shepherds (which are the main descendants of the Guanches) will even greet each other with "ahul", which is very similar to the "azul" said in this video.

[@benamer8836]

Fun fact the amazigh were a great inspiration for Frank Herbert for his si fi book dune, the desert dwelling people in his book are called the freemen( amazighan )

[@kareemkhaleel7506]

Hi there, Azul I'm a native speaker from Rif region in Morocco just wanna correct one fact which is there actually are more than 14 m native speakers around north africa in Morocco only there's more than 14 m but governments will never give the real number for political reasons, and one other thing is that some Guanech Imazighn in canary islands are still speaking tamazight in some areas despite the few numbers of speakers but they are not fully extinct.. and therfore we cannot exclude the Guanech tribes when we speak about Imazighn.. anyhow Tamazight language is one of the oldest languages on this planet that is still spoken to this day Imazighn are one despite the delusional borders we are still one with different tribes and dialects kudos to my Imazighn fellows out there

[@lynalyna8965]

I’m kabyle amazigh from north Algeria tanemirth thank you for the video 🙏

[@ValentinBrutusBura]

It has the potential of being, or becoming, peaceful, while it is certainly the case that it is something that people never get enough of ;)

[@Squirrelmind66]

Prioritizing Arabic as a national language in Morocco and Algeria is similar to what Haiti did with French. The country already had a language, Haitian Creole, but the government wanted to use a standardized, international language that would prevent assimilation by the United States (which occupied Haiti in the early part of the century)

[@ChaouiNaïli]

Before Arabic the language of North Africa was Canaanite as well as its writing. It was never Tifinagh except in the desert

[@Brancoladage-zk3xr]

@@ChaouiNaïliif you’re an ignorant why you feel the need to comment about things you don’t know sh&t about? What’s the relation Canaanites with amazigh?🤦🏼‍♂️

[@AbdelhafidEcharadi]

Yes, there is a difference between Amazigh, which is spoken in the high atlas and middle Atlas in Morocco and Tachlhit which is spoken in the south east of Morocco in addition to tarifit which is in the high atlas

[@lailabaich]

I am indeed a native speaker and I cannot beleive the in-depth work you have done to make such a solid and well built video. We can clearly see ur passion for human civilizations and powerful approach in digging into history... great work and well done lady Julie ❤♓️ Ayuz nem...cannot wait to discover and go through your other videos as a new subscriber. KUDOS🎉

[@TheFirstAncestor]

Thank you very much to talk about my culture ❤ i really appreciate this video

[@anouarbf2963]

Thank you so much for this video. As an Amazigh myself from morocco, I want to say you're the first foreigner to explain our history even better than some History teacher. I just wanna mention that one of the important reasons why arabic has fominated is not because of what people think "Arab Colonialism". But bcs of Islam, our ancestors thought that it's the best way to understand the "New religion" by learning arabic for the Quran. So it was kinda volunteer. It's not oppression at all.

[@Serendip98]

True, so did the French: no oppression at all, only volunteer. And of course, no slavery among Arabs. 😁

[@anouarbf2963]

@Serendip98 bro that was stupid statement. If it wasn't oppression why do you think they resisted it and got rid of it. On the other side Indalucia was established by Tarik ib Ziyad. Muslim Amazigh. I recommend reading some history and understanding it.

[@thedarkside102]

No, the existence of Arabs in North Africa is a sure thing, especially during the Hilali-Bedouins migration. It was the main reason of Arabization... It explains to us why there is still an important portion of Berber speakers, if the cause was only Islam I guess no one would speak Berber today...

[@anouarbf2963]

@@thedarkside102 No that's not what I meant. It JUST BECAUSE OF ISLAM. but it was one of the major factors that made the "arabization" so easy. It's bcs most of them accepted it.

[@anouarbf2963]

@@luminaryyy-n5o what do you mean by arabization ??

[@hendrikvanblerk1862]

Fantastically interesting! Thank you.

[@kemetnubiakamp]

There's no evidence Tifinagh derived from Canaanite/Phoenician. There are only 3 shared symbols and one of those symbols also was in Kemet (Ancient Egyptian).

[@kemetnubiakamp]

Interestingly, it was the "t" that is the shared symbol (looking more like an X cross) that's in all three scripts but from your video I am learning it was feminine as it was also in Kemet's script.

[@RedHair651]

That's not what she said. She said that Amazigh people saw the Phoenician script and wanted something like that too. They were inspired.

[@kemetnubiakamp]

@RedHair651 There's no evidence for your claim either because Phoenician script derived from an alphabet already in Kemet as evidence by Wadi el-Hol. There's no evidence Canaanite/Phoenician script had anything to do with Old Libyan Tifinagh.

[@Brancoladage-zk3xr]

Nope!…amazigh language is older than Phoenician language (Phoenician language went extinct btw)

[@Sceptrumy]

Old languages looks like the same , there an old slavic language has the same script as tifinagh

[@Disturbris]

The second targi woman was saying "we will never leave our land if you died so be it"

[@lunisamazigh4386]

Yea glanced some of it (Shawi).

[@amitscolin]

thank you so much julingo im so fall in love with this video my all love for amazigh native north africa 😍🤩😘

[@Visit_Tangier]

When you said imazighen at 1:04 , I was like : WHAT? Is she amazigh or just amazingly good at pronouncing our torturous language? Bravo !!

[@abdrhmankafo8301]

Azul(ⴰⵣⵓⵍ) from Libya , i'm Libyam Amazigh

[@AdamDylanMajor]

native here. I'm team Tifinagh. not a fluent speaker yet, unfortunately. i really like a feature where the object can become a prefix of the verb, like 7tajjagh (I need) akfhmgh (ak: you, fhmgh: to understand) I need to understand you