JUNKYARD DODGE 5.9L MAGNUM VS JUNKYARD 5.7L HEMI-WHO MAKES MORE DYNO TESTED TORQUE?

5.9L MAGNUM VS 5.7L HEMI-IS THE HEMI REALLY BETTER? FULL DYNO RESULTS! IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR LOW SPEED TORQUE-IS A HEMI REALLY THE WAY TO GO? CHECK OUT THIS COMPARISON BETWEEN A PAIR OF JUNKYARD DODGE V8S, THE 5.9L MAGNUM AND THE SMALLER 5.7L HEMI. THE FACTORY RATINGS TELL ONE STORY, BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU WHO MAKE THE MOST LOW-SPEED GRUNT WHERE TRUCK GUYS NEED IT MOST! CHECK OUT THIS COMPARISON BETWEEN A 1999 5.9L 360 MAGNUM, A 2006 5.7L HEMI AND A 2017 5.7L HEMI. LET'S TALK TORQUE!

[@james4wd236]

The magnum was made to pull and that low end torque is exactly what a 6000lb. truck needs. Probably the biggest benefit to having a magnum is the longevity. You cannot kill that engine. I've had mine on the rev limiter excessively and it just don't care.

[@kyled3737]

idk, i blew a piston into 3 pieces

[@spudkedir5314]

exactly, my magnum refuses to die. i ran it goin 115 at redline with no fucking oil for a week straight and guess what happened. nothing. tore down the motor to the block and there's basically nothing new wrong with jt

[@garystolworthy3365]

@@spudkedir5314 I'd be ashamed to tell the world I ran my engine a week with no oil in it. That's not good.... That's why there is a dipstick.

[@jerodwolford2743]

dunno what happened to mine but mine had a shit ton of metal in the oil when I bought it. no matter how you look at it, the gen 3 hemi is just better in literally every aspect.

[@mrrmsfucker146]

It literally sucked the oil out the bottom of the plenum 😂 the redline is so low I'm not surprised.

[@joshuaphillips1867]

Keep in mind when reading comments, most people with 5.9s have never had one setup without a stock efi/tbi setup. A 5.9 with correctly matched cam, carb, and good ignition timing setup, is unreal. Talk about some throttle response that you could put a gap on many an efi hemi off the line....

[@alpha13dylan]

I agree. Even the 5.2 wakes up fairly well even with the stock cam with a good intake and carb and headers. My 5.2 was a dog in a dodge dakota. I pulled it and swapped EFI for a Edelbrock RPM and 600AFB carb, long tube headers and a stock mopar electronic ignition with distributor. Ignition around 18 initial and 34 total and this thing will lay rubber for a block and chirp the tires into second in a 3800LB 70s dodge truck.

[@billcat1840]

@@alpha13dylan I myself want to do this but I'm concerned about the transmission. It's a 46re and I have concerns about it shifting right

[@nejisgentlefist42]

Swear to God my 02 ram sport was like this. Bitch had insane takeoff speed for being a pirate ship. Love the old silver bullet. I’ve drive my grandfathers 2017 Laramie and yes it’s way faster but red light to red light it was very close. Trash on gas tho

[@neon0501]

Magnum is super easy to make 400hp with a proper setup

[@Ratridez]

​@@neon0501 850 thermoquad and airgap on my 5.9 , night and day difference

[@Rizzbulla]

Magnums are some of the greatest sounding V8's ever created.

[@THEFERMANATOR]

The 5.9l magnum engine responds very well to a cam swap. When I worked at Dodge back in 01, we put headers and a mopar performance cam in one, and that thing was a beast compared to stock.

[@92clintonr]

Factory cam on the 5.2 and 5.9 magnum are absolutely tiny with no lift. Cam swap is without a doubt a solid power adder for the magnum engines.

[@adamtrombino106]

@@92clintonr The factory 5.2 cam in manual trans models was more aggressive with more overlap, timing, and a tad more lift than 5.2 autos, or any 5.9 Mag. Even so, I agree, they are all tiny. Dodge really didn't have the technology to get the dirty Mag's (lol) thru emissions w/o adding more cats and an AIR pump, something they didn't want to do, if they pumped up the compression and went with a bigger stick. Plus, they wanted these things to idle smoothly at about 650 rpm and still run PB and a/c without any trouble.

[@92clintonr]

@@adamtrombino106 No sir the manual trans did not have a different cam. Ive owned 6 Dakota's all V8 5 of them manual 1 auto and tore into every single one of the engines. The camshafts are the same across the board. The only notable differences in 5.2 engines are 92 Dakota's. They have larger manifolds and exhaust diameter for a whopping 5 extra hp. After that they are identical power wise regardless of trans. Dakota/Durango RT 5.9 360 have a different cam than the regular 5.9 for another, you guessed it, 5 whole HP.

[@jeepstertj556]

They really like the stroker crank. I was getting 436hp to the floor with my 99 408

[@jeepstertj556]

@@92clintonr the heads and the stock intake choke it down also

[@johnnyh127]

I've owned a 318 and 360 truck. I'm on my second hemi. The Hemi is def a much smoother better running engine, but that 360 did have a ton of torque. Pulled the boat with no problem at all. All good engines! 318 in the Dakota was nice also

[@michaelcutsuries8098]

Continue with the magnum line would like to see an 8.0 on the dyno

[@dylanjones5490]

I have a 96 2500 with the 8.0 and its a monster of an engine, Im with you on wanting to see a dyno.

[@WTank109]

Absolutely Love the Old Iron Blocks Still waiting to find A 2003 V10 XD

[@mattdavis7260]

I have a 98 2500 with a v10 has 198k and still runs strong. And I also have a 14 2500 with a 6.4 and I feel the 98 still feels better low end tq. But the newer truck of course is night and day towing lol

[@WTank109]

@@mattdavis7260 that's Would Be 420 foot Pounds At 2000 Rpms If I remember correctly Lol They can Do a Burn out Of the line and still while You drive Lol

[@mattdavis7260]

@@WTank109 definitely tq monsters

[@DG-ox6bg]

This format with actual dyno runs and figures is perfect! 👍

[@Baddeye]

Had to turn up the volume to hear the 5.9 on the dyno, then had my ears blown out by the "hemi". Thanks for that.

[@logangaddy4917]

Both engines if well maintained will give you many many miles of reliability, i have an 03 ram 2500 with a 5.7 and its been one of the best truck i could ask for. Has never let me down, 210k on it now and still going strong. 5.9 is a great motor too.

[@jacobsebastien3910]

I luv my 08 Ram 2500 4/4 Hemi pulls everything I need with Ease' 122,000 miles on it.

[@pablochavez9087]

Those Magnum engines are plentiful and so easy to work on. Would like to see what porting the heads, better intake manifold and better cam would do. Basically just make it comparable to the Gen 3 Hemi and see what it does numbers wise.

[@1bwelsh]

Iv done it myself.. suggest that you go get one lol all I'm gonna say

[@DrBIeed]

The funny thing is the real trick with what you’re asking of the 5.9 is the manifold coincidentally. For fuel injection its basically Hughes Air Gap or M1 2 or 4bbl unless you swap from a Magnum to an LA head. You can go that route but you have a lot more work to keep the balance of power and day to day reliability like you’ll have with a later gen Hemi. Basically Mopar dropped everything for the Magnum as soon as the 3rd gen Hemi hit the scene so its damn near impossible to find a decent FI manifold for it as it came from the factory.

[@lesheath6216]

@@DrBIeed nothing that an Edelbrock manifold and Summit efi can't handle, and you have a programmable system.

[@chloedegurechaff1941]

@@BuzzLOLOL My 360 magnum has 440k on it. Still olds 150 compression in each cylinder.

[@garystolworthy3365]

Those are good arguments for the magnum, however given the same upgrades.... The hemi would still be victorious!!! It's just a better design, I like the magnum, but the 5.7 Just breathes better, and there is no getting around that fact. Yes a ported and cammed 5.9 would step up the game, but a ported cammed hemi would still kill it.

[@speedracerjeff]

I own both, a 5.9 Ram single cab and a 5.7 Ram single cab pre eagle 5.7, trust me the 5.7 Hemi is way faster.

[@jamesmeidinger7435]

I'm liking this now so it will already be there when I return to watch the full video! Great matchup!

[@DClairRobinson]

I'm a huge fan of the magnum 5.2 and 5.9 they feel fantastic in the low end, and when you rip them hard they just seem to say "YES YES GIVE ME MORE! THIS IS SO EASY!" While the Hemi just feels like it's screaming and going to come apart any second.

[@adamtrombino106]

My friend has an 06 quad cab Hemi, and it does not like to tow his boat at all! He also has an 02 1500 club cab with a very worn 5.9. He swears the old truck will tow the doors off the newer PU, and that what he uses to haul his boat.

[@baileyhatfield4273]

@@adamtrombino106 Not comparable to what you are saying, but my 06 Daytona Charger with the 5.7 Hemi just screams and takes all i give at it. First car, so it gets thrashed, 4 years i've had it, i just do oil changes with decent oil frequent, she still CAN get the advertized fuel rating on the highway and goes fairly well for having 2.82 gearing maybe 2.62 but i think 2.82 rear end gearing. I've been in one of those trucks and man yeah they just love life. Whatever works really is what is best

[@baileyhatfield4273]

@@BuzzLOLOL Not gonna really argue there lol. For sure some issues, its not on every engine for sure by any means and seems to affect a small minority, problem being its not a cheap repair. Nothing against the Magnums i even like em quite a bit, just around here anything that has or had one, is far gone, and i'm not in a state to be swapping powertrains into different cars lol.

[@Floreypottery]

@@adamtrombino106because it has low end torque band hemi is up high so it’s got to scream literally to have the same torture as the 5.9 does at under 4k rpm

[@TheBukesde]

Thanks for the Mopar content!!!

[@andrewwilson1858]

I love the intro music, please dont ever change

[@GrantOakes]

I LOVE the sound of that Hemi on the dyno. Pure noise!

[@RadioReprised]

I loved the bottom end grunt of my Magnum for towing.......that's where the power is useful.

[@noidontthinksolol]

i love my hemi but it will never ever have the throttle reaction and sound than my old 5.9 magnum used to have. the magnum used to rock the truck side to side when i revved it, absolute beast of a motor.

[@kuhndog-1196]

With the late model hemi I see more electronics and moving parts. The old magnum is a solid choice for simplicities sake. And they make heads for 360's or you could port your own.

[@captainboose8788]

Many people simply lock out the VVT and runners when building them, the heads are great epically the 6.4 heads

[@dannychiguina3962]

Awesome 👍 job guys keep up the great work and Builds 🤙😎💪

[@stephenbreen7570]

Got a 360LA in my Cuda, absolutely love it.

[@AtomicFacePunch]

Richard, you are confusing us old guys when you say "early hemi" when talking about a Gen 3. Would love to see a comparison though... 354 vs 5.7, 392 vs 392.. would be neat.

[@chrishansen7004]

he is referring too the hemi's made before 2009 also known as the pre eagle hemi's

[@drs2000rr]

Happy Sunday Richard!!!🔥🔥⚙️⚙️🛠🛠

[@palmtree9221]

I dig your enthusiasm dude. Nice vid👍

[@richardholdener1727]

Appreciate it!

[@zxtenn]

I had the 5.2 in my 1996 Grand Cherokee with 155,000 miles, ran 100% and was still tight as a drum, just 12 MPG city though, however long term reliability in MY opinion was excellent

[@P.A.C.E.automotive]

You're absolutely correct! Great motor, poor mileage.

[@jeepgarage]

Thanks for sharing, very interesting

[@brownwrench]

I modded my 3.9 a fair bit. Ported heads, intake an TB. 1.7 roller rockers and shorty headers along with a Superchips tuner and electric fan. 4 hole injectors help a lot too

[@dh2360]

Great comparison!

[@scottbentley2825]

Love the channel!

[@deathunit1]

Hey Richard! started a drinking game off of how many times you say magnum or hemi. I hope it gets some more views for you. thank you for taking the time to look at Chrysler products. Its super hard to find videos on people having dyno backed numbers for anything mopar related. Its greatly appreciated!

[@richardholdener1727]

I'm in

[@geoffreyweights7697]

And that ladies and gentlemen is how you get alcohol poisoning😂😂😂

[@bobqzzi]

Hi Richard. interesting video as always. I would be very interested to see a with catalyst vs w/o catalyst test on one of your motors.

[@jeepstertj556]

If you replace the choked down stock components on the 360 it actually makes decent power

[@JJ-de8hg]

What do mean by choked down

[@kirbywinters1291]

@@JJ-de8hg heads cam intake

[@codyowens7412]

I have a 5.9 magnum in a rock krawler and I love the torque, I use the holley sniper on it over the keg style intake, o have the hyper spark and was wondering what timing you used, I have a 727 with a 2500 stall converter and a reverse manual valve body. Just trying to figure out best tunning on it for a currently stock motor other then holley sniper and ignition, shorty headers to a 2.5" exhaust to a single resonator, and a airgap intake!

[@ClaremontClassicGarage]

Love my 2018 5.7!!!

[@benearl2739]

Just put new heads on my 5.9L 02’ Dodge Ram 1500, went strong for 217k miles until I got a misfire, which turned out to be a 90% compression loss due to the head being cracked between the intake and exhaust valves. Lucky I had access to a 318, which run the same heads. Great truck though.

[@joseggutierrez4248]

Quien me podría contestar si le puedo poner un motor jemy5.7 a mi Ram 1500 pero su motor es 5.9 si se podrá por no?@-

[@edwardshields2777]

Hey Richard, really enjoy your channel. Not sure if you are familiar with Utawesome Performance. He specializes in Magnums. He says stock eliminator Magnum 360's can make 500+ ft lbs. He has beer keg mod solutions (volume reducing plates are supposed to be good for 1" or 2" of vacuum at idle.) Apparently the keggers have 18" runners. I'm definitely interested in any low-end torque testing you may do. Thanks!

[@sethburt8974]

I'm just happy to see a stock magnum make 300h.p.

[@reaper-sz5tm]

That’s all you need to cruise around and do burn outs

[@MarcosHernandez-do5bv]

Hello Richard!!! I have an issue. I own an 04 quad cab Dakota 2wd with the 4.7 v8. Everything now a days is for the Hemi, and that is nice and all but not everyone has the cash for all involved with the hemi. People say junkyard hemi swap and all, that is cheaper, etc, etc, but at the end of the day it is way more expensive because it is unknown the condition of the motors at the pick and pulls here and it would be a step backwards to have to do a rebuild at the same time. So I have the infamous 4.7 v8. Got it from the yard too and it was running perfect. Didi new timing chains, water pump and HO cams that I had from the previous engine that took a dump. So I want to have a basic set up for the street. Mind you this is not a race truck. It is something to have for cruise nights and shows with the wife and kids to enjoy and once in a blue moon step on it to hear that turbo spool up a little. Don't need tons of power, just something to have fun with. I have been thinking of basing my calculations of off the Ford 4.6 2v, and the 4.8 LS engines to kind of base everything out. Given my engine makes around 200/235hp with this cams I was thinking that with the gt45 from ebay it should have similar results and jump my power to around 380 ish on about 6 to 9 lbs of boost. So if there is any advise you could send my way I would really be grateful.

[@blaster42008]

I have a Dakota 5.9 r/t. It will scald tires at 45mph. But not much after 80mph. Damn good motor for torque and burnouts

[@sbb8474]

Love to see the 6.4l truck engine

[@kennethconnors5316]

had a Cordoba with 360 mag and it moved well with holly 4 bl and headers /exhaust ..nice comparison

[@408Satellite]

Great comparison! I've got a Magnum and a 4th gen Hemi so very interesting to see the results. My Magnum is a 408ci so it's a little different having better aluminum heads too. Keep up the great work, always entertaining and informative.

[@gallupcustomknives2293]

What cam are you running in the 408? Assuming the 408 is in your Satellite? Prob using a more HP oriented cam than TQ cam…

[@408Satellite]

@@gallupcustomknives2293 Part number P4532635. Duration .208/.216; .467/.482. Switched to Holley Sniper a year ago being mainly a street car and it's great!

[@MrCriminalmischief]

Which one you like better?

[@408Satellite]

@@MrCriminalmischief It pains me to say the new Durango is better. The 1972 Satellite gets the classic car attention and is still a blast to drive but the Durango R/T wins overall.

[@hayden8713]

my transmission just blew on my 95 which one do you run for ur setup?

[@joewithhart157]

I'd like to see a head test of the 6.1 SRT8 heads vs the 09 newer 5.7 heads as far as flow and chamber/runner specs. How do they compare?

[@HoldenGuyTL]

The 360 was a beast definitely love the hemi though.

[@josephpetruccio7306]

Can you do late model 5.7 Hemi heads on an early 3rd gen Hemi? I hear it takes some work to get it together but would love to see how it would work. Maybe even a comparison between that and a 6.4 hemi

[@matts6409]

Which wiring harness do you recommend for a 2006 Hemi swap since there are so many options?

[@geekyzebra91]

I like the 5.9 had one in a 2001 ram 1500 definitely has some decent get up an go

[@jeffblackmon288]

Try swapping the Magnum heads for R/T Aluminum heads and going up .1 on the rockers. Question: Could you retrofit the simple Hemi VCT to the Magnum?

[@440phoenix]

Are those shorty headers on that hemi? Lol, liked and subscribed. Nice work Richard!

[@richardholdener1727]

stock 6.1L SRT8 exhaust manifolds

[@lb9gta307]

Those stock 6.1 manifolds are basicly shorty headers being a welded individual tube design.

[@95epiphone]

I have a 5.9 magnum with an airgap intake, a 650 brawler carb in a 91 rcsb dakota. It has GOBS OF torque to move that littls truck!

[@logangaddy4917]

And it's a beast

[@95epiphone]

Thanks and your truck is too! Are you still planning on going back to an auto? I need to put a better cam in my 5.9. I know that'll really help

[@logangaddy4917]

I'd like to have one built to have as a backup, want a stupid loose converter and a transbrake so I can really launch it hard

[@Impactjunky]

@@logangaddy4917 The right Hughes cam and a small carb makes them launch really hard on the stock converter. My combo has a 3.55 gear and a really tight stock converter that wouldn't let my 273 break loose at all but after swapping to the cammed carb swapped Magnum the same gear and converter combo launches super hard. I bought a 3K RPM converter for the swap but it was bad new in the box and Jegs wouldn't help me cause I was just outside the return date. I've always wondered how it would have ran with that converter and some even bigger stickier tires. (already running almost a foot of rubber on each side.)

[@logangaddy4917]

I went from a 360 magnum to a 5.7 hemi in my second gen ram. Also a 46re to 6 speed manual, love the truck but it has zero traction. Eventually Id like to go back to an auto with a transbrake for racing

[@Vuhjayjay68]

Literally had to replay it and make my wife listen to the hemi 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamesduffey4442]

We want to see more magnum tests .. Also alot of guys swear by doing the keggar mod to the stock keg intake on the Magnum motors by cutting the runners on the inside of the intake for better flow. And they swear by it. So can you do a keggar mod test to see if it's true and makes more power please!?

[@austinbarnard1152]

You should check out Utawsome performance, Marty is a 5.9 wizard

[@tomschweikert9537]

very interesting. please compare 350 and 5.3 chevyTHANKS!!

[@coffelt683]

I heard from a mechanic that vvt hemi's have a problem with excessively wearing out camshafts. He told me that trucks with 50,000 miles have come in with camshafts that look like they have 250k.

[@dtruth5769]

GREAT VIDEO. HOW CAN U MOD THE KEG INTAKE. REALLY WANNA KEEP MY RT DAKOTA A 5.9. ALSO WHATS THE BEST AFTERMARKET HEADS WOULD YOU RECOMMEND. THANKS!

[@richardholdener1727]

check on line for kegger mods

[@timtimtimmay4654]

The magnum head design just isn't meant for good flow. That being said, it is also probably why so many are still on the road. Just not enough power to break, and difficult to make a lot more power that kept most from pushing them as hard as other platforms. I still own 2 and believe they are some of the most durable, cheap and easy to work on engines ever made. Both of mine are over 250k miles.

[@jamesearlcash7725]

@@BuzzLOLOL how can you have too many vehicles? That’s like having too much air, too much happiness, too many women. There’s never enough lol

[@joshuaphillips1867]

Making power isn't just about flow and cfm, as chrysler engineers knew. Port velocity plays a huge part in making power, along with many other variables. Magnum heads, along with swirl port LA heads could support 450hp stock, no modification with the correct cam....

[@Patrick-xd8jv]

Charle Servano channel “probably miss spelled last name “, got 270 cfm from the intake ports on the magnum

[@jlsracing997]

So much is made of the length of the kegger manifold runners. I would like to see the difference in length between the kegger and the hemi kegger. It is the same style manifold so I just thought I would throw that in.

[@Rrottweiler]

Show us early 5.7 Hemi with adapters and Eagle 5.7 intake... pls pls :)

[@bc03celicagts]

do a magnum build to see how much you would have invest to surpass the hemi's

[@WhatsTheDylBr0]

Oh yeah the hemi manifolds sure do flow 😂😂😂😂

[@logangaddy4917]

Richard this thumbnail is fighting words!

[@Greenskies321]

Curious what heads flow more: new hemi versus new godzilla. The canted valve godzilla heads flow a ton as well.

[@jamesgeorge4874]

I have heard the 5.7 and 6.1 heads are around 300 cfm at .600 lift and the 6.4 Apache will flow 340 cfm at .600 lift. I believe the stock Godzilla heads flow 320 CFM at similar lift but the 7.3 sports a 50 cubic inch advantage over the 6.1/6.4, and a hundred inch advantage over the 5.7. The Godzilla has 10 huge bolts per head for massive boost potential.

[@Prestiged_peck]

@@jamesgeorge4874 can we get comparison numbers for the 6.2 SOHC? Since we're obviously talking truck motors here we can't forget THE HD ford gas motor for the last 10 years? Maybe numbers for the 6.8 3valve triton too but I'm more interested in the 6.2 cammer

[@kozupiitalked9731]

what vehicle was the 2006 hemi out of? a ram should have aluminum valve covers. plastic should be out of a charger or the likes? cars also had multi displacement where ram had a delete.

[@xx11seczxx]

I’ll watch the video tommorow but I’m assuming the 5.9 makes more bottom end torque. Having owned both, the 5.9 tows way better than the 5.7. The Hemi wants to turn a bunch of rpm and won’t stay in overdrive. The 5.9 has no issues lugging around low rpm

[@samsonreynolds3728]

Rpm doesn’t affect all engines the same and the 5.7 will always get better mpg anyway

[@xx11seczxx]

@@samsonreynolds3728 my 5.7 got 7.8-8.2 towing 8000lbs. I’ve never had a 5.9 do that bad

[@bonose12]

Nice job Richard! Any chance you could do "other guy's motor" episode...the toyota 5.7 in tundras. Curious how an overhead cam 4 valve compares to the pushrods. Thx again.

[@WrecklessEnterainment]

Are you still planning on doing the piston bank to bank swap to see if it does anything on the 360 magnum?

[@richardholdener1727]

yes

[@craigslue]

I believe the car intake on the newer 5.7 hemi is not variable intake. The 6.4 intake is variable. Not sure why the newer car 5.7 isn't a variable intake? One of the big mods is to put a 6.4 variable intake onto the newer 5.7.

[@paxton-s1977]

Have you done testing on the gen 4 hemi with the awful truck manifolds vs longtubes?

[@richardholdener1727]

not on a gen 4-the gen 3 ram manifolds are not good

[@YeOldeTowneCryer]

Most people pulling loads will want the power to arrive before 4,000 rpm. So that magnum will be the best option for them. Probably less expensive to purchase as well.

[@jimmy_olds]

Hey Richard I have just about everything to put together an Olds 455, I’ll make you a seriously good deal if you feature it here!

[@gallupcustomknives2293]

Ought to try getting a UTP450 cam for that magnum. I’m curious what that cam can do with the long tube headers for torque…

[@joewithhart157]

I ran that cam and honestly other than a sweet sound,I really couldn't feel any major difference although I never put it on a Dyno to actually compare

[@gallupcustomknives2293]

@@joewithhart157 I was using my 5.9 frequently for towing, and occasionally in steep grade snow/ice/gravel when I was looking into them. Never pulled the trigger on the cam though.

[@RGD1982]

I have a 01 ram 3/4 ton with almost 300,000 miles on it I've only done a water pump once and a basic tune up every 5 yrs hell I barely change the oil in it and I wouldn't hesitate to drive it across country old rusty but trusty

[@jamesduffey4442]

Please do some more tests with the magnum motor do small modifications to see howlittle modifications make big power on the Magnum and throw a turbo on it why don't you maybe do a turbo vs supercharger on the Magnum

[@YouTubeDoxedMyRealName]

Something you cant do other than put engine quest heads on the magnum or port it is cut the runners on the barrel up 1 inch from the end of the runner on the inside (to get a larger gap for air to flow from the plenum plate) and smooth the entry of the runner then smooth the entry of the throttle body. Then you can reduce the barrel volume by welding in a custom bent plate at the level of the runners. You would want to extend the ports for the hoses that connect to the throttle body and plenum down past the plate.

[@richardholdener1727]

we tested a modified Kegger

[@bdugle1]

Since I have an LY6, I couldn’t help but go back to your 6.0 cam video to compare. Granted the 6.0 has 6-ish more cubic inches than the 5.9 (or around 18 more than the 5.7), but with the LQ4 non-VVT cam it makes 467 lb-ft and 443 hp. It’s too bad we don’t have the LY6 with the VVT intact to see what it does. I’m not running VVT anymore either, but I’d still like to see the results. There are VVT aftermarket cams out there but no results nor tuning info. Richard??

[@richardholdener1727]

I have not run ly6 with vvt-we can't with the holley

[@bdugle1]

@@richardholdener1727 I’m just saying we need to see it. I imagine HP Tuners can control an E38 in whatever parameters are required to test the base cam and a couple aftermarket versions. You’d need the factory E38 and a harness retaining the right connectors for the VVT front cover. I asked Comp about before/after numbers with their VVT cams-they said they had NOTHING! Inquiring minds need this! I know BTR has info on the L83, but us LS users need it, too. I think you could help!

[@SARJENT.]

Richard. Great video. I'm curious about the difference in spool times. The Magnum does well down low. What do you think?

[@richardholdener1727]

that would best to test on the street or chassis dyno

[@SARJENT.]

@@richardholdener1727 I thought you would say that. Makes sense.

[@frigglebiscuit7484]

small block mopar has an awesome exhaust port.

[@charlesfields7908]

Tip for tap, spend the extra money and buy the better goods already thrown together on the 1st gen hemi or take the extra money youd spend on the hemi and put it into parts for the magnum and make the same if not slightly more power running mostly factory parts. All about the preference and what a person budget will allow for. Bigger budget person can go for a hemi, smaller well can go for a magnum. Real question is, wtf come up with Hemi Magnum or magnum hemi etc for the 1st gen hemi decal? There 2 differnt things 🤣

[@Mr4x4toyidaho]

I'd like to see a comparison of a dodge 8.0 v10 vs. Ford 6.8 v10.

[@oldcroneysgarage9739]

That's a good idea! Someone needs to try that!

[@bcbloc02]

No comparison. Those 8.0v10 dodge motors were torque monsters. They would tow as good as a mild tuned Cummins truck back in the 90’s.

[@lb9gta307]

Dualing unloved "other guys" V10s? Count me in!

[@Thundarr995]

My brother has a 360 magnum in a 2000 Durango. It's not a bad engine. It does everything he's ever needed it to do. Towing a 6000 lb boat. Getting to work when it's snowing and some moderately long road trips. It doesn't get great gas mileage though. I'm guessing that it probably gets 17mpg freeway and 11 around town. If gas wasn't so damn expensive,I would consider buying an older Durango. I think it's a pretty solid SUV. Probably why it gets bad gas mileage...it's really heavy compared with many other SUVS. Dang thing weighs about 6000 lbs. Another thing is that it has so many skid plates under it,you'd probably never even know if it had an oil leak or not. LOL

[@Dukelevi12]

I drive a 2000 Durango rt daily, it gets 11.5 combined mpg. Thing is a monster towing especially for a smaller truck, and it’s pretty quick against other trucks and old mustangs

[@02Cumminss]

What year was the magnum because the earlier year pre 97 ones had higher lb fuel injectors 24lb compared to later year ones at 20lbs due to emissions wondering if the early ones made more power than the new ones

[@moparjr89]

Nope early ones were about 230hp 330ft/lbs later ones went up to 245hp 345ft/lbs

[@Bamazrollin]

I still drive my 01 ram with a magnum. The body has seen better days but you cant kill that motor.

[@kalxorak]

Question. I have a 96 magnum 5.9 l It don't have a tachometer and I'm just curious is there a rev limiter? If so when or what is the redline. Like when will it start to cut power? I've always shifted off sound I try to shift basically as early as I can to get the best mpg, best I've gotten is about 12.5 mpg, but if I need more power I guess I'm just trying to figure out how much can I push it. If I were to wire a 3rd party tach what would be the highest rpm I should/could go?

[@richardholdener1727]

even if you could rev to 6500 rpm, the motor won't be making power there

[@bobjackson4287]

Forgot to mention the part were the 5.9L is generally a much more reliable engine than the 5.7L Hemi. 5.7's love to eat camshafts and lifters.

[@chloedegurechaff1941]

My only Experiance is with my 97 ram 360. 440k miles and the thing runs like a dime. still makes an impressive 150 dry compression in all cylinders. Love my motor.

[@HowardJrFord]

Only the mds equipped engines eat cams , but the problem can be solved by disabling the mds system . gm's ls engine has the same problem .

[@bobjackson4287]

@@HowardJrFord Non MDS equipped 5.7's have the problem too. The problem is lack of lube going to the roller lifters and camshaft. The MDS lifters specifically is kind of another issue along with the MDS system but this problem had been persistent even in 2004 engines. The LS and the AFM system was a different problem also involving the valvetrain, however yes both AFM and MDS are trash, thank the EPA for that bs.

[@jonathanfreedom1st]

The 5.9 Magnums are more reliable. Some might say...unbreakable....provided you religiously change oil and maintain proper. Which some people do not do....Now if they just didnt have that pesky belt squeak and chirp. Although mine does not anymore probably because it only has about alittle less than 20 thousand miles on it rebuilt.....I believe was attributed to power steering pump pully.

[@totljag1]

@@jonathanfreedom1st I have a 98 Dodge Ram Van 5.9 with 200k miles , oil has been changed a 100x owned since new

[@ktga67ish]

Seems like you should have put the truck 392 hemi in the test. We used to have the gas options between the 5.2 and 5.9. Now we have the 5.7 and 6.4.

[@lb9gta307]

If you're going to add the 6.4L truck Hemi he may as well also add the 8L Magnum since both are 3/4-1 ton engines

[@ktga67ish]

@@lb9gta307 True, that would be a cool comparison to see.

[@orygunchainsawmassacre6761]

So can you run aftermarket efi on the magnum? Would love to do that to my 5.9 jeep

[@richardholdener1727]

very easy

[@jammerz63]

How about a 3rd gen hemi with 4th gen heads? Would be an interesting build.

[@richardholdener1727]

agreed

[@yipe222]

Restoring a 64 Dodge (Ram) D200 Truck. It will have a 408 Magnum small block. Building it for torque. Shooting for a minimum of 500 plus LB FT of torque and 425 HP. There are some nice aftermarket heads for these engines that really wake them up.

[@zorlord100]

Currently have a 360 la motor with magnum heads making 450hp 500 ftlbs 👍

[@yipe222]

@@zorlord100 Awesome. That is very impressive. What do you have it in?

[@zorlord100]

@@yipe222 its in a 74 duster

[@yipe222]

@@zorlord100 Sweet. Lightweight. Must be a rocket.

[@gordythecreator]

Magnum looks good4a Granny-Gear if you got that purposed 4x4

[@necrodh]

i have a 318 and 360 fuel inyected i like them a lot, more of 300k miles and they run like new

[@whatchu_talkin_john_willis]

dont forget old SAE j607 correction factor (what most shops call "standard" correction) vs the newer j1349 correction factor

[@richardholdener1727]

that doesn't matter when we are testing them in the same manner on the dyno (or the rated power outputs)

[@whatchu_talkin_john_willis]

@@richardholdener1727 it does if youre comparing them to OEM advertises numbers

[@ernestoramon3700]

my 5.9 ram 03 has 244k miles original with engine. still runs good no smoke unless when revving it high but this trucks aren't meant to floor it. lol

[@robertrowells5134]

Richard, I think you have all the dyno runs to compare stock 5.7 hemi, Ford Coyote, and LS (LT?). I'd like to see them all on the same graph.

[@richardholdener1727]

WHICH LS? WHICH YEAR COYOTE? WHICH HEMI?

[@robertrowells5134]

@@richardholdener1727 Basicly the newer the better, as for which LS, maybe all (5.3, 6, 6.2). Have you run an LT, if so how does it compare to an LS?

[@Dukelevi12]

@@richardholdener1727 392, gen 3 coyote and 6.2 lt1

[@art8278]

Think you will ever do a video on a 8.0 magnum video

[@richardholdener1727]

I'VE ONLY EVER SEEN 1

[@moparmtb360]

I have both but I prefer the 5.9 magnum. The Hemi feels more like a car engine and I'm not a fan of that.

[@AndrewLee-cg6uk]

honestly give me a 5.9 magnum id trust it in the long run vs the hemi

[@rlld23]

“”Battle of the V10’s !!!”” What an epic battle to discover what these behemoths have and are capable of. Turbo or supercharged!! Yikes!!! Ported or aftermarket heads? Timing and tuning. Watch out!!! Ram vs Ford vs Viper vs Srt

[@stevenwiltse9611]

I have an 06 magnum rt hemi. Will the newer hands fit on my older block?

[@richardholdener1727]

yes-chamber are different so make sure to research the compression change

[@stevenwiltse9611]

I plan to have the bottom end reworked. Bigger can, injectors and long tubes with a tune!

[@Mrhandyhitman]

I like the Hemi love

[@dougpalmer2834]

2011 rt ram make 425 hp and 450 tq.on the dyno at the flywheel.have dyn sheets to prove it

[@clydewatkins6734]

What exactly do you do with all these motors you build

[@richardholdener1727]

test them