Juno is not a HIGH SKILL hero people think she is | OW2 Hot Takes #57

[@TwiggyBadger]

Imagine being so adamant in chat that you get taken as a hot take.

[@immahamsteryogamer]

As a Juno one trick, I can confirm that her weapon doesn't make her hard. One of the reasons why I player her is because of her weapon. I find it easy to aim with burst weapons, but some people don't like them.

[@mreowsarah]

Definitely, I wish her skill ceiling wasn't so low, there definitely could have been ways to make her feel more advanced

[@RandomPhail]

I usually don't like burst weapons, but honestly, I hardly consider her weapon a traditional "burst weapon" (I.E.: Like a 3-shot burst). That thing fires like SIXTEEN bullets in half a second or less, lol I'll usually miss a couple shots, which is why I hate traditional burst guns, but with Juno, a "couple" shots is mathematically kinda meaningless, lol She has a short-duration laser, not really a burst

[@Caiofoca]

"They forgot how to make simple heroes" Meanwhile Venture dig, eat rock and dash.

[@narnianninja4964]

I think it's because Venture looks complicated when you see one flying around the map but their abilities are pretty simple like you said

[@keeganbate8935]

Yeah, venture is even easier than Illari to play. Mostly because you don't have to keep track of your turret and move it around.

[@Bad3abdul]

@@keeganbate8935 i wouldn't say that considering venture needs to get close and a good team with brains won't allow that easily but with illari she allows a poke playstyle

[@xXunknownXx0000]

Mauga....

[@Brotatots]

Hot take: the dev team's obsession with "moving power around" is ruining the game's balance. Every time they make a change, they always find something else to either nerf or buff and it is making these balance changes hard to remember. They tuned down the global projectile size changes a little, but as one of these "shifting power" plays, they buffed the DPS passive. Now there's two variables being changed at the same time and it is only going to make balancing even more difficult in the future. If you're unhappy with where a hero is at to the point that you give them a nerf or buff, why would you go back on your decision by giving them a nerf or buff somewhere else? Why are they trying to weirdly maintain the heroes' power levels when they aren't happy with them in the first place?!

[@tolland4433]

Absolute facts. I've never been a fan of developers with this approach.

[@Bad3abdul]

@@Brotatots 😂😂😂

[@Xfacta12482]

You HAVE to shake up the meta though

[@Bad3abdul]

@@Xfacta12482 True

[@ThatBoiDinky]

@@Bad3abdulthey also don’t need to change the meta too drastically without knowing how the first change would even work. They’re too scared to let things sit and are too scared to make small changes a long the way

[@PumPuum]

Hot take: Lifeweaver and baptiste are polar opposites on kit balance: Bap has a very cool and interesting weapon with a high APM but boring and lame abilities (except maybe boots), while weaver has very unique set of abilities with a lot of skill expression and potential creativity, but his gun/heal is extremely lame.

[@ShaggyLad]

I personally really enjoy Lifeweaver's healing/damage and think they both feel very satisfying to use (thorn volley needs a missile speed buff though). The issue is that even with all the "creative" uses of petal platform, you're still better off just sitting it next to a spot to help people get to high ground (if they even need it) or keep it next to yourself as an escape. It lacks tangible power and is very map/comp dependent.

[@zedukelstarstryker9875]

boots feel like some of the most lame to me. Im not a bap *main* but i play him a decent amount and i feel like a knob sitting there when charging up my boots. I know its more of a positioning tool that an escape tool, he already has his aoe heal and lamp to protect himself but I still try to jump sometimes when getting dove and it just feels bad. Seeing baps on the enemy team do the same makes me feel secondhand embarassment cause the ability just doesnt have that 'presence' or cool factor that makes them fun to use.

[@frankprovost]

i feel like LW heals are reeeally annoying to use, holding and releasing clic is not enjoyable to me, even if his healing output is high. i find his gun quite satisfying to use tho, even if it tickles the ennemies

[@funkycrawler619]

@@frankprovost As a LW main, my biggest pet peeve is when people say his healing output is high. Yes it's high it's because all he does is heal and even then you RARELY get the full charge of the heal which is optimal. If all he does is heal, he should be the best at it and he really isn't since every other support can do his numbers and more.

[@frankprovost]

@@funkycrawler619 why is it your pet peeve if you yourself say its true lol

[@Kanggaxx]

''Does everything need to be Juno level complicated?'' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@wyzmeister5067]

genuinely bro lmao juno's kit is so simple

[@wyzmeister5067]

tbh no one in overwatch actually has a complicated kit, the game's complication is like 95% macro and 5% mechanics

[@Arandomguy30]

The first one is true, for me at least. I practiced Widow for less than a month and my aim in Val and Apex and basicallg every other fps game, especially for flicks and stuff, improved soooo much. I've been hitting shots I didn't even know were possible.

[@crunkmodeREAL]

Juno is literally perfect and I would not change a single thing about her.

[@PyroManiacOW]

Totally agree. Btw the new heroes are awesome the hero design team is killing it

[@funkycrawler619]

She needs number changes- specifically around her ult. Whether that being her ult numbers (primarily the heals) or her base numbers, it still needs tweaking. OW1, Bongo was the number 1 (or 2, but EMP being 1) ult to win a fight. They gave her a stronger version of Bongo. Otherwise, I think she is fine for what she does but her ult def needs tuning.

[@THYnameISsarcasm]

I'm glad you like her, her gun feels so off to me I could never get in to her

[@Bad3abdul]

@@funkycrawler619 😂😂

[@storm2666]

​@@THYnameISsarcasmthats so funny to me because I always liked Ana as in aiming to heal but I didnt like how vulnerable she is and her gun always felt kinda off to me. Im glad we finally have two characters that shoot to heal/dmg

[@Reliance1340]

LFG in OW1 had just become a dating app by the end. So many “e-boy looking for e-girl” and “mommy looking for hot boy” 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@Bad3abdul]

😂 😂

[@Starboiiiii]

I have fond memories of joining them and just trolling people, and surprisingly even having lots of fun with the e-girl/e-boy posts. I miss them 😌

[@lukeaustin4465]

Yeah but a lot of people out there who play this game don't treat it competitively, they treat it more like an mmo. Have you seen how many people are in the Friendly custom game servers? Have you seen how many of the ‘uwu’ people emote to each other even in comp games and form friendly pacts with each other? Most of the normies wanna chill in this game, theyre not competitive, an overwatch MMO would fit these people spectacularly. Overwatch feels like a social game alot of the time and not a shooter

[@itay6262]

Room temperature take: Can't say I'm loving the Sombra changes, but I get it.. and to be honest, It makes everything more calculated and now I can play her guilt free!

[@professorpingas5796]

Glad you're learning to adapt. I always thought that the changes were really good for balancing Sombra to play around her damage instead of just her hack and invis, which is really uninteractive and lame. The bad Sombras are easier to pick out because you don't have your get out of jail free card anymore, but the good Sombras don't even need to hack anymore to just straight up delete a person. Now you guys can actually just play your role as a dps instead of some backline time waster

[@bennettnez4711]

Glad you are figuring it out, you should still feel guilty, Sombra is the living embodiment of evil.

[@MasterMemo]

I don't think they forgot how to make simple heroes, they just don't excite people as much. Venture is pretty simple and fun, but they aren't popular. They're not even bad really

[@alfredocaceres4680]

I think Venture is not popular due to character design though, not because it's kit. Widow has simple kit, Mercy has simple kit and they are popular even after several years have passed.

[@funkycrawler619]

@@alfredocaceres4680 Agreed, it's really sad how they made a very unique and fun character and don't give any attention to them.

[@starrysky8118]

Even before Venture, Illari was also really simple. Place pylon, click heads. The most complicated thing about her is her ult.

[@sunray501]

​@@alfredocaceres4680 Mercy's kit has evolved a lot, she may not be a good example anymore. She used to only have a single leap to target. With the ult-reworks, Valk adds more complexity than mass-rez did. While still not very complicated, Illari and Zen have simpler kits now, imho.

[@alfredocaceres4680]

@@starrysky8118 Agreed

[@holden811]

Completely agree with the 2-1-2 comment. I was playing open queue comp in a 4 stack with some friends the other day. It was my first time doing that. And we had 2-1-2 with DPS zen being the 1. It was the best time ever and we rolled 7 games in a row on placements. It was a blast

[@Wickedincarnate]

Comparing rivals and overwatch is comparing 2 different apples where one may have a better taste uncooked but another is far better when baked. You have to recognize the differences when comparing the similarities.

[@professorpingas5796]

Hot Take: I actually think they did a really good job on the Sombra rework. She seems a bit more skill expressive as I see alot of good Sombra players using her invisibility with much more creativity and skill than before thanks to the fact she's a bit easier to catch out.This makes her feel more interactive all things considered, and a bit less frustrating to play against. Even if I die to a Sombra, I find myself giving them a bit more respect, due to her gameplay loop not being so simple anymore. She seems like an actual dps character that deals decent damage, and can oneshot certain characters with good accuracy, in comparison to before where it seemed like the only value and fun she provided was just to waste time in the backline and piss people off with nonstop hacking and permanent invisibility. She's truly less of a pest, and more an actual character in my eyes

[@Vazl0s]

HOT TAKE: The profile hide ability should be locked behind the same achievement the streamer mode option is. What's the point of profiles if 90% of them are hidden?

[@EvanOfTheDarkness]

It'd be enough if "friends only" wasn't the default option. 90% of people never change the defaults, and there is no real reason to do so. If "public" was still the default, then most profiles would be public. But we can't even see the opponents rank/level, except for the victory screen, so you can never know if the opponent is smurfing, or just the matchmaker decided that gold and diamond are basically the same thing. Again.

[@bennettnez4711]

The problem is that MOST of the player base is pretty low rank and that information in these ranks isn't very useful outside of using it to flame people and be toxic.

[@Bad3abdul]

10:30 Thank you that's what I've been tryna tell people for a long time People say she can shut down ults easily apart from Jq the chances she nulifies an ult are sooo low 0.45 sec of immortality is what she gives And those who complain about her shots like guys lets be real they are projectile the odds she's two tapping you every fight are less than 50% i watched a stream where kiri only killed this person once and the person immediately started complaining about kiri and it only happened once I've realised that a lot of people just look at numbers and talk

[@chrisgaerig698]

Hot take: Every tank should have a shield. Fights in OW are more interesting and resolve in more unique ways when there are shields involved. Sightlines are dynamically changed with the presence of shields and they give a distinct reason to stick with/follow your tank in fights. They would also help to give a more defined role to tanks other than the high sustain DPS model that the OW2 tanks have trended toward. It's true that there are only so many forms a shield can take, with Rein, Winston, Sig, and Ram covering most of these archetypes already, but there are other options (Sym's old deployable Photon Barrier, for example) and the game is in desperate need of a new teamwork tank.

[@giuseppevaccaro7521]

Hot take? Overwatch is better than marvel rivals in every aspects

[@joshuaanderson8734]

I wouldn’t go as far as to say better, but definitely more polished

[@blaym4271]

Very aspects

[@nathannelson4464]

Agreed

[@whitegrill8809]

Well… except player numbers 😮

[@giuseppevaccaro7521]

@@whitegrill8809 I'm not so sure about that buddy

[@drifterbingus]

I think it speaks to just how irrelevant Hanzo has become when even KarQ forgets that they buffed his damage so he could one-shot again. I used to enjoy playing him a lot, but ever since they nerfed him into the ground via season 9, I have barely touched him. Even with the buff, he still feels like ass because of how slow the arrow charges and how slow the projectile is. I would trade faster charge time and projectile speed for a smaller projectile size any day so my boy can be relevant again.

[@Bad3abdul]

lol they've removed the draw speed change

[@bink97]

I hear so many people talk about getting comm banned for typing, but I type all the time and have Never got banned

[@shinkleihh]

it's because the chat reports are automated - if you fool around too much in all chat, you could definitely get banned. i used to fool around in all chat with my friends in a 5 stack, and we've been suspended/silenced for making fun of each other. tbh i've only received reports when i'm grouped lol people don't know we're in vc sometimes people will post the flagged chat logs too if blizzard gives them it and it's completely innocent

[@Jaeden_Phoenix]

I'm always of the firm belief that there's a difference in "High Skill Heroes" and "High Aim Skill Heroes". Juno's kit is generally quite easy to use... unless you can't aim. Ana's kit is generally quite easy to use... unless you can't aim. Vs something like (I know it's overwatch nobody is actually super difficult if you just put time in) Doomfist where he's mechanically complex and countered by half the roster of both dps and supports.

[@PumpkinEaterPeter]

Possible Juno tip, hold the fire button down the whole time and during auto reload to get used to the rate of fire.

[@heisamonster]

"MAKE HEROES MORE SIMPLE, JUNO IS TOO HARD" "MAKE SOLDIER MORE INTERESTING, HES TOO SIMPLE." I might actually just hate this community.

[@burtonthegrape9217]

I go on the forums and they always say no to a compromise with Widow, no glint, or laser point or any kind of nerf in anyway because she's supposed to be able to one shot from across the map with no warning or chance to react because "Identity". People keep citing Identity like its the be all end all, like Snipers are just one shots, like they couldn't make Widow a DOT because they love the one shot. They don't care about her identity they only like her for her looks and being a character that kills with little effort.

[@THYnameISsarcasm]

I just like hitscan. Widow, Cas and Illari have the best feeling kits for someone like me.

[@ntdscherer]

Gameplay should always trump lore IMO.

[@aouyiu]

@@ntdscherer For most heros it does, but favoritism for some like Widow and Kiriko.........

[@elijahpri]

7:22 "Hot take" >proceeds to say the most regurgitated, ice cold take I've ever seen

[@drucy.]

Low skill OW players all have WDS (Widow Derangement Syndrome). They can't stop yapping on how "bRoKeN" she is while constantly and brainlessly running in the SAME sightline she's holding 10 times in a row. And get killed every single time. Ofc, they're gonna make her the subject of every "hot" take they have.

[@Mac_E_Tac]

5:45 his arrows now 250. They gave him the damage back, but made the projectile smaller and longer to draw

[@SamuraiPipotchi]

Not wanting speed as Rein seems wild to me. I love being sped up and getting ravenous on the enemy

[@Grodis420]

i disagree with the lfg one i used to find such fun groups in there it was fun

[@GamingWithCubby]

I thought the first hot take was gonna be Ow is the best FPS and I was gonna laugh to my grave

[@THYnameISsarcasm]

Okay, so what is?

[@itsali654]

Hot take mei has one of the ults in the game and I would rather have her ult changed to where she gets 12 seconds of primary freeze back and it has more range so it can be considered a ul

[@Rohndogg1]

What is stored where? lol

[@cakes-r-great9111]

Hot Take: The monthly balance changes are too much for the average player to keep track of. Someone who plays and enjoys a hero(s) may be completely confused when their hero(s) are rebalanced/reworked as they are not watching videos or reading patch notes. Not everyone is hooked into the nitty gritty of this game and it feels like Blizzard does a poor job communicating to everyone large changes to heros if they don't go out of their way to find out these things

[@Shea_Fresh]

Suggestion: Give both teams 1 minute to fight for capture on Hybrid maps. Fighting for a draw needs to go away.

[@beatenterprizes]

2:35 I completely disagree. We have been getting characters with simple archetypes, like KarQ said, we have still been getting simple archetypes like Illarii, but there’s also… Mauga. And most of the characters labeled there aren’t very well liked and aren’t exactly fun to play. Soldier 76 is always lingering in the balance of too overpowered or too underpowered, hardly ever feels like there’s an in between. Even if Rienhardt wasn’t so bad, his gameplay would also still be pretty boring since most of what he does is hold up a large shield. And Zenyatta, I’ve never found him fun at least, and he’s also one of the most annoying characters in the game rn. More complex kits are more fun for most. JQ is one of the characters I enjoy most in this game. Juno is also appreciated as a pretty fun character for most (if she didn’t enable such a cringe meta)

[@bennettnez4711]

It probably wouldnt work, but i want to try 2-2-1 where the support is gigabuffed like the early oW2 seasons tanks. Im a support main, i liked solo healing in kingmaker. The biggest problem is that the solo support would get heavily targeted and it would screw with supports like zen who heal less. Still sounds fun

[@ThatBoiDinky]

Hot take? Turrets should NOT exist in overwatch (or any shooter in my opinion) there should NEVER be a set it and forget it kind of object that a player can just place and get value without interacting in SOME way. I don’t care if the turret/character is good or bad, a player should NOT be rewarded by just pressing a button and leaving the turret to do its own thing forcing enemies to interact with it. At MOST all turrets should exist until the player that put them down dies.

[@ThatBoiDinky]

I will DIE on this hill before I let ANYONE convince me that turrets IN ANY SHOOTER are even remotely healthy with how they are commonly used

[@ChangeIsPossible-420]

3:20 Mauga and Illari are two of the most recent heroes and they're both extremely simple

[@PyroManiacOW]

4:45 oh but i thought rivals had the best balance ever seen in gaming ever?😢

[@LordOfTheDeepDawn]

Hot take: we need to try Marvel Rivals' teams ups mechanic in Overwatch! There's so much untapped potential (some examples down below): «Cloaked in shadows» (Moira + Reaper) • Reaper's Wraith Form now grants Reaper invisibility and extra 50% movement speed bonus. «Harvesting» (Widowmaker + Reaper) • Enemies killed by Widowmaker drop Soul Orbs. Reaper can absorb them to gain temporary speed boost and overhealth. «Overheating» (Bastion + Torbjorn) • When Torbjorn uses his Overload while Bastion is nearby, Bastion gains 50 overhealth, movement and transformation speed boost as well as attack speed boost. «Bodyguard» (Roadhog + Junkrat) • Roadhog can pull friendly Junkrat to him. Such pull's animation is faster and movement speed penalty during the cast is lower. Roadhog shares his Take a Breather healing with Junkrat if he is nearby and can grant him up to 50 overhealth.

[@funkycrawler619]

Unironically this works only 6 vs 6 I feel with Tank pairings lol

[@YOSSARIAN313]

That bastion torb team up would terrorize bronze and silver

[@Bad3abdul]

why do we need this? Let marvel rivals have their unique aspect and leave ours

[@LordOfTheDeepDawn]

@@Bad3abdul As a fun arcade gamemode, why not? Junkerstein's lab was super cool and I'm sure something like team ups would be too!

[@Bad3abdul]

@@LordOfTheDeepDawn you know ideas like this will only feed the trolls online more stuff to talk about

[@asssssssssdawdadw]

1:25 i think they mean just add more depth there are rein otps in top 500, but there's no mercy otps, cuz she is low skill floor and low skill ceiling, rein has low skill floor and high skill ceiling

[@thelakes_s]

mercys skill ceiling is actually VERY high lol

[@Bad3abdul]

i wouldn't call her low skill ceiling tbf

[@asssssssssdawdadw]

@@thelakes_s she's my most played hero rn, i'm not saying she's skilless but she's entirely reduced to pocket playstyle most of the time. i liked learning to know all the little details about her rez and GA but... there is only so much you can do with it. Valk is also an incredibly generic ult, there are a lot of passives to it, GA reset, increased self heal, further GA, but at the end of the day they are passives. It's often used as a panic button rather than ACTUALLY enabling your team. not to mention she pretty much has very little synergy with the rest of the support cast. basically i feel like there are interesting things to learn about her, but you don't get a ton reward from learning these things, or the only reward you get from learning these things is just living longer. i feel like the best thing you are able to do as mercy in any given game is just to not die... tldr; mercy is naturally a very passive hero and revolves around being reactive (rez is naturally reactive). can't be as creative with her kit, she's very 1 dimensional, although that is not to say there is no diff btwn high and low skill mercy players

[@e3vL1]

Hot Take: let people opt in for backfill for extra exp to complete dailys/BP faster

[@elijahpri]

Hot take. Toxicity makes Overwatch matches more memorable and entertaining. The fact that you can't even trash talk in a VIDEO GAME anymore because someone will take it to heart and get their feelings hurt is actually insane.

[@anthonyfarias5076]

Nah, toxicity just makes overwatch players look like hateful no-lifers. I've played lots of toxic games but not once were people toxic IN CASUAL like overwatch.

[@ntdscherer]

At low levels, a 2k doesn't guarantee a win. Respawns could get back to the fight before you clean up.

[@Jaycielantern]

hot take: I think the reason people want to have LFG in game is because it finds a community FOR them. They don't want to put in the effort of actively looking or sifting through online communities and they don't want to put in the effort to properly socialize to do it.

[@THYnameISsarcasm]

Sounds about right. I'd rather play alone than do all that and I love talking to people

[@Kaspiderv2]

Def true. No one would prefer getting assigned a random friend other than those who cant or wont make friends on their own accord

[@hbvg678]

Tbh if you play at a high level in most games the best thing you can do is join a discord. Usually better players are in these communities, making it easy to find a competitive stack

[@error404webpagenotfound]

The group finder was more convenient and it also told you the role that they needed filled or what roles were left available. Most of them were DPS players looking for tanks and supports to play with. I actually found my friend group in the LFG, and we played for a really long time together. It was like a perfect fit, I was an off tank dva and they specifically needed an off tank. So I filled the role and became the newbie lol. I'm in the Mercy parkour Discord, and I've found so many friends there alone. We even play together, which u would think we are all "Mercy mains" but there's actually a lot of people who like playing her but don't only play her. I actually play Juno, Ana, or Soj most of the time. I'm also in the r/anamains subreddit, but that one doesn't seem as close knit as the parkour Discord. Idk if it's just bc of the platform and that people only post clips and questions or what but some OW communities aren't super social in terms of "hanging out." That's not to say you couldn't make friends in them though.

[@soraniostaur3839]

2:50 boiling hot fucking take, bro listed 3 heroes who range from hot ass and outdated to barely counting as a DPS because a single damage number decides if he's broken or useless

[@Bob-gs3vi]

2-3-2 is the way to go

[@goonggoong6619]

A take: Lucio is way harder than Kiriko. Kiriko has a pretty solid healing output and you can get easy value with her kit, her ult is pretty busted too, aiming kunais can be tough. Lucio has wall riding, having to manage healing and speed, having to work with your team to get value out of speed, ult is good but not kistune strong, also requires aiming admittedly not as difficult as kunais can be. Overall lucio is harder than kiri

[@Bad3abdul]

hmmm

[@anthonyfarias5076]

0 kelvin take

[@akimomalrov3241]

Suggestion, give soldier a passive stacking buff that increasing the damage of his next bullet to armor after hitting a target with armor, make this ramp up over time. Kind like stacking armor shredding, so that if he spams onto an armored target he would progressively do more damage to the armor.

[@cgj458]

Terrible. Soldier is best utilized with constant rotation and chip damage, but your suggestion would turn him into a 1v1 assassin

[@parthbadve5297]

Every hero yet feels new and has a breath of fresh air in terms of mechanics and playstyle. All except Sojourn. Sojourn is your regular archetypal hero shooter that fulfills the need for a faster fire-rate hero. None of what sojourn has to offer feels new. A lot of it seems to be borrowed from the gameplay loop of Soldier, Widow, and at times Genji, all of which share the same role as Sojourn. So it really feels like Sojourn was supposed to be a "Soldier 2 : Railgun Boogaloo, instead of an individual character that feels different at its core. So no wonder that Soldier appeal has decreased in OW2. Because they just offered us a better and more satisfying version of that character. It feels like a mashup of a few characters, rather than its own standout thing.

[@tolland4433]

Semi-Hot Take: There would be a lot less Widow unfun/uncounterable/boring/poor design complaints if two or three maps were removed from the game - Havana, Circuit Royal and King's Row. These maps have very few flank options on top of having pretty long sightlines. I don't think making changes to these maps is even a band aid fix either, it's a proper fix, as on other maps with more flank options Widow feels much more fair game imo. Even Junkertown which afaik is seen as a widow map has decent flank and dive options for dealing with her compared to the other three I mentioned.

[@jaymolinski4789]

You are the first one I have seen that hates King's row😂I think the only bad point on King's Row is the third point with the two high grounds but the first two points are fine.

[@tolland4433]

@@jaymolinski4789 What? When did I say I hate the map?

[@MoteKinTrol]

It's pronounced 'visa vee'

[@Nebby_smells]

That thing about reworking low skill floor characters for higher ranks makes no sense to me. Naturally if youre a higher rank shouldnt that mean you need to play higher skill heroes?

[@dragonviggo]

hot take : Sombra in mirrormatch (or if she will be an support) will be the same for Symmetra at her beginning : unplayable and unfun to play. Her EMP is like a huge Soldier heal, her hack is like Symettra shield at her beginning. Let Sombra alone in DPS (and maybe before the rework, but that's another story) :p

[@Bad3abdul]

😂😂😂

[@soraniostaur3839]

0:29 ayyo ?!

[@HupsoniX]

When the top comment says that MR is worse than OW in every aspect you know it's starting. . .

[@senormacaco2834]

The best fps to start with is Team Fortress 2 and its not even close

[@Takemura77]

Sped found

[@senormacaco2834]

@Takemura77 Whats that mean and whats it got to do with my comment jaja

[@anyotherbusiness6210]

HOT TAKE: the only way to not repeat the OW1 problem that killed the game (q times) is to have tank as the strongest role. The role is the least fun, most stressful and most mentally demanding of the 3 whilst not being an easy free win role cause most of the time you get hard focused and/or countered, so why is it that (especially at higher ranks) all 3 roles have similar impact on if you win the game. For tank to have no extra reward for being such an annoying role to play means that people just leave over time and now with marvel rivals thats a more pressing issue than ever.

[@flamingwolfx]

Q times didn’t kill the game. Lack of care from devs did. Not getting updates or new content for months or years is what killed it.

[@LFanimes333]

@@flamingwolfx Queue times killed the game and it’s an insane take to say otherwise

[@flamingwolfx]

@ queue times were a think since role queue and the game was definitely not dead immediately after role que. It’s not queue times bruh

[@Bad3abdul]

​@@LFanimes333it was lack of updates that did cause they were focused on ow2

[@ubacow7109]

Is this title grammatically correct?

[@Terrence551]

Hot take:make Lifeweaver tree overhealth cap infinite not Like 100 or how much is it now Just bcs hes not doing good now

[@Takemura77]

Get help

[@Copperliquid]

I have a hot take It got cold by the time i type it on comment

[@whitegrill8809]

Hot take: the game has lost its luster. And that’s ok. People should learn to be ok with that. Sure it’s balanced but it feels more tedious to play than most other games that I just don’t want to play it anymore. Other games are just more appealing now and I think that’s ok. Overwatch follows a formula: Balance the game by shifting power around Add new hero’s and new maps Maybe try a new mode Repeat. They don’t do much else than that for content besides skins and skins and collab skins and more skins and kiriko skins. I just feel like my time is better spent playing any other game and I also feel ok with that. I think more people feel that way but think it’s bad or wrong to feel that type of way about a game they might’ve spent years on and effort on. I think it’s ok to feel like the game and it’s cycle has ran it’s course.

[@aveage-brush-player]

7:31 ok just saying But this applies TO ALL SNIPERS AND SNIPER RIFELS I MULTIPLAYER GAMES THEY DON’T BELONG HERE AND THEY JUST EXIST TO SLOW THE GAME TO A CRAWL

[@Bad3abdul]

😂😂

[@sigilmasai]

I used to not think that but yeah too many games allowne z snipers to hide I the back with 1 shots . Exactly why Hawkeye needs a nerf on marvel rivals

[@Kaspiderv2]

Wrong, sinpers are only problematic in games with high ttk, in any other game theyre meh, esp if you have to sacrifice utility for it

[@YOSSARIAN313]

I think a major problem with soldier is hes supposed to be a super soldier but doesnt feel like it. Make his run speed way faster, give him a higher jump and allow him not to wall climb but allow him to pull himself onto ledges like you can in parkour games. Give him two helix rockets with reduced damage and more knockback allowing soldier to rocket jump in conjunction with parkour abilities to give him more escapability. Make him as hard to kill as tracer.

[@Yuu-rf3xm]

Clover yum

[@vanillapaperclip]

Vis-a-vis made me laugh. It's pronounced "veez-ah-vee" It means "in relation to"

[@cgj458]

Lol "in relation to" is the incorrect American way of using it, its actual meaning is far more precise. It literally means "face to face" and describes when two things oppose each other, physically. What's the point of using such phrases if you misuse them?

[@PyroManiacOW]

Hot take? Marvel rivals is overrated. As a first person shooter Overwatch has managed to convey more personality and uniqueness to the characters than rivals, third person (since launch btw and they took it up a notch in ow2) that's only the tip of the iceberg on why i think that game is so overrated, but what you want i guess

[@Bad3abdul]

pls leave the comparisons alone

[@sarenartanis1752]

Hot Take: i'm from 2099 and Spiderman 2099 it's not in Marvel Rivals but in Overwatch as a widow collab skin 😢

[@tkdaboss2769]

Hot Take: If the you lose the initial widow 1v1 and immediately swap to sombra, your ego is tiny. Having a battle that you lose and have to end up changing your tactics is acceptable… however immediately swapping to invisibility shows you’re garbage and need a crutch

[@halifur]

i can't tell if this is sarcasm or not :/

[@kecksbelit3300]

​@halifuri hope it is

[@alfredocaceres4680]

Seems like someone has an ego problem here

[@YOSSARIAN313]

If you need a hot take. I should be allowed to trash talk in match chat. I got banned despite never talking in chat except saying "freelo" and " "tank diff" after wins. If i want to act like a wrestling heel i should not only be allowed to but encouraged to do so. If you dont want to be called bad try winning

[@valentinecult]

womp womp try not getting banned

[@Lordin_]

You're definitely telling half lies here. I do the same thing + occasional "?" on chat when outplay and never got even a warning. The way you talk really makes me think you're not just trash talking lightly lol

[@aidancfv9919]

Tbh, when people on the enemy team talk trash, I just see them as uneducated. I do understand getting upset at your team, though. I try to keep my frustration respectful because not everyone has the same commitment to winning.

[@TheZahirNT2]

No. Incredibly entitled opinion. Not everyone who plays Overwatch wants that experience and forcing it on them makes you a petulant child. MMR sets you with players at your skill level, so you are literally no better than those people you trash talk. “If you don’t want to be called bad, try winning.” How about, if you want to call people bad, grow tf up. Step back and examine why you have that urge. Or keep making other people’s experiences worse and keep getting banned.

[@senormacaco2834]

Maybe try being a better person. Be nice to your fellow humans, its just a game

[@sigilmasai]

That first take was awful . Overwatch is not that deep to me, its a simple af game with simple effort. Ive been top 200 in the world multiple times but overwatch is simple. MY opinion before anyone speds on my commenr

[@cgj458]

"top 200 in the world" Except there's only continental ladders. And you are from where exactly? I feel like your country doesn't even have 200 people with internet access even