Jurassic Park’s Sequel Problem

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[@patrickhwillems]

Since 25% of the comments are inevitably going to be about a 2-second clip... 1. Yes, I know Temple of Doom is technically a prequel 2. Temple of Doom is better than Last Crusade 3. I'm not going to read the comments

[@Shadowmask8]

How can you say that people making stupid decisions is the reason the Jurassic Park sequels don't work and in the same breath say that Temple of Doom is a good sequel?

[@Advent3546]

#2 is my #1 in the Top 10 Anime Betrayals

[@luanagullotta6218]

I love Temple of Doom and I'm glad that you agree.

[@rams3955]

+Patrick (H) Willems Lol "I'm not going to read the comments" yet another example of the critic not being able to handle criticism. Shocking. So its easy to shit on other peoples hard work but when people call you out you run and hide, real professional.

[@streampunksheep]

READ ME!

[@anubusx]

The main lesson is always listen to Jeff Goldblum.

[@ShepardOfficial]

Especially when he's trying to call you

[@TheRealRip-Tide]

RENT?

[@cameronjcam]

unless you’re a woman in hollywood

[@inspiradorupees3029]

Life (Hollywood) finds a way

[@WordUnheard]

I have the perfect Jurassic Park sequel pitch: It's the year 2037. Dinosaurs are now living among us in peace and harmony. How, you may ask? Because one day a year, any and all dinosaur crime, including murder, is legal for 12 continuous hours. *Welcome...to The Jurassic Purge!*

[@1TrueJuliet]

Needs more cowbell.

[@cudreeti]

Word Unheard Reminds me of a trip to the Creationist museum.

[@chrislasekan1685]

*The Infinity Jurassic Purge Wars: Ep IV*

[@KeystonePrepper87]

Perfect comment lmao

[@Razzy1312]

Damn, here I thought you were about to pitch a new series for the Dinosaurs TV sitcom.

[@tanner4214]

_Jurassic Park_ (1993) No One Listened to Ian Malcolm Saga (1997 - 2021)

[@gb7418]

Tanner the lost world book?

[@TriteNight1218]

I personally don't think that the wonderment of the original Jurassic Park (for those of us who saw it initially) will ever be matched again. You have to remember that no one had ever seen special effects even remotely close to the quality of the first JP. It completely blew us away, and as the characters' jaws dropped at seeing the dinosaurs for the first time, we the audience were just as amazed at what we were seeing. It seemed unbelievable...almost magical. 7 year old me was entranced, and to this day, I've never experienced that same feeling after seeing a film.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Personal preference.

[@suchomimus9460]

Stefan Thompson Is this was 25 years ago, you’d be saying the exact opposite.

[@AaronfRogers]

I agree thats why JP movies will never be as exciting. But I think competent film-making has actually given me that same sense of awe and excitement

[@laloisdone.]

There could have been some wonder in Jurassic World tho. Considering alot of people who saw that movie were probably little kids who like dinosaurs and are too young to be familiar with the first one.

[@brendenhawley2225]

So the sequal was avatar and any story that all about the setting.

[@Theriot6592]

The movie's confusion about whether the dinosaurs are heroes or monsters could have actually been really cool if it was intentional, because WE have that same confusion as the audience. We've spent 25 years thinking dinosaurs are wicked awesome even though we always see them murder people. I mean hell, look at the entire history of the Godzilla franchise.

[@18kingen]

they need to stop painting out the raptors as good friends... ffs raptors are supposed to be horrifying creatures not friends who help you

[@guitarman0365]

k but just like real life animals if you inprint on them at a young enough age they are not as wild towards you. it happens in real life. Not once does owen every get cocky and just assume the raptors will never turn on him, i mean his first interaction with them in the first movie when he runs in to protect that guy he takes a very defensive and cautious stance. I don't think the point is to show them as potential pets he always respects them and knows how much harm they could do in a moment. It just helps being around for their birth so they associate you as not a threat and are far far less likely to attack you.

[@18kingen]

i dont know if you've seen fallen kingdom, so im not going to spoil, but just watch towards the end and tell me the blue isint playing a hero

[@jalapeno1119]

Right? Like anytime I see Rexy on the screen I get hyped for her and she's my fave but I'm also like... I'm going to be seeing you in my nightmares later.

[@zach2473]

ALAN!

[@brianmessemer2973]

Zatch Never gets old! 😂😂😂

[@lawrencecalablaster568]

Dang it, Dream Velociraptor! How did you get in here?

[@anubusx]

😆😆😆

[@TF2Fan101]

How about... PATRICK!

[@TellItAnimated]

The shaving can embryos had a life-span of like 3 days so it wouldn't be useful for a sequel, even though the original Jurassic Park 4 script wanted to use them.

[@thecockwambler2621]

Tell that to Jurassic World Dominion

[@MartyMcFly88]

I don’t think it was even 3 days, it was a matter of hours

[@brianmessemer2973]

In essence, the first film is a complete work of art whose themes and concepts presented are completely explored and resolved. I would argue that none of the sequels present any further arguments, but merely reconfigure superficial elements to create new situations with inconsequential characters. The original film Jurassic Park is a masterpiece that can’t be improved on, a testament to the genius of Michael Crichton and Steven Spielberg.

[@generallegath974]

I dislike this idea that any film or any work is a masterpiece that can never be improved. That is how nostalgia glorification ends up taking precedence over objective criteria. What is true is that Jurassic Park did something right, and for the first time (for that it surely deserves recognition) which *to this point* has not been improved on. The lesson that should be taken away, rather, is that sequels for the sake of sequels are a bad thing; a sequel should feel earned, or complete an incomplete story, and should only be executed if it fits in seamlessly and respects the original.

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

I just saw it. It should have been left alone

[@mania4270]

Yeah right. Ppl be lying about the first movie. It's not as good as Spielberg's earlier work and got mixed reviews when it came out. I love JP1 but man the way some ppl act like it's deep....stop. They were all essentially dumb dino movies.

[@ViralKiller]

same as Terminator's problem...each sequel makes the time travel plot even more complicated...

[@Gemnist98]

I find it hilarious how Terminator Salvation is the only Terminator sequel with a relatively unique premise.

[@adamfrederick9643]

I feel the same way about the Jurassic Park sequels as I do about the Star Wars Prequels: They're not as good as the original, and they have their faults, but I still find them enjoyable films to watch. I've always felt like The Lost World stood on its own as a worthy adventure film, and Jurassic World was a fun B-movie spin on the original.

[@mjstraz3593]

Sequel trilogy haters INCOMING!

[@thema1998]

Adam Frederick What do you think about the Star Wars sequel trilogy?

[@mjstraz3593]

I Really like them. I have problems with them, sure, but overall I love the characters. I love how Kylo Ren is the main bad guy because of how insecure and crazy he is. I love how Rey's parents were nobody pieces of shit that didn't care about her at all, because she defines her path and isn't given a silver spoon in this story. I loved Luke's conflict and reasoning. They are pretty good movies in my opinion. Rogue one and Solo on the other hand, aren't memorable at all and are really average.

[@adamfrederick9643]

I like what they've done so far. THE FORCE AWAKENS was a remake, but it was entertaining and introduced a lot of great new characters and lore to the series. THE LAST JEDI would've been perfect without the casino sequence, but otherwise, I like the new directions it took and its setup for the series moving forward. I liked how ROGUE ONE was a WWII espionage movie set in Star Wars and perfectly linked up to A New Hope. And I really enjoyed SOLO. I love Westerns and Solo is essentially a Star Wars western that was very well-written by Lawrence Kasdan.

[@JamesLawner]

I never saw JP3 in my entire life and Idk how to approach it. Also, I feel the same way about Jurassic World, but it does have its issues.

[@BrightSunFilms]

My god this is a brilliant analysis of why the sequels never worked. I personally loved the Lost World, but I completely understand the criticism towards it. Nothing will triumph the seller first film. Great video.

[@kyjo72682]

Not only the JP sequels. This is why so many other films don't work. Stories and characters made by amateurs, wrapped in a 100 layers of CGI.

[@brianmessemer2973]

In essence, the first film is a complete work of art whose themes and concepts presented are completely explored and resolved. I would argue that none of the sequels present any further arguments, but merely reconfigure superficial elements to create new situations with inconsequential characters. The original film Jurassic Park is a masterpiece that can’t be improved on. That is a testament to the genius of both Michael Crichton and Steven Spielberg.

[@suchomimus9460]

Bright Sun Films You may be good at exploring and talking about relics of the pasts; abandoned or lost; but you don’t understand media.

[@suchomimus9460]

Brian Messemer Did you even watch these movies? Cause it sounds like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Also the first movie is not perfect. No movie is.

[@suchomimus9460]

kyjo72682 You know, it’s amazing. You are one hundred percent wrong. Nothing you said was right.

[@andrehorst1446]

The lost world's film plot was to bring public awareness to the dinosaurs existence so that it could become a nature reserve. In doing so the team that John Hammond employed would effectively block InGen from removing the dinosaurs from the island.

[@battleupsaber462]

Having seen Fallen Kingdom already, it was very amusing because the ending of that movie (without spoiling anything) was basically Jeff Goldblum saying "SEE I WAS RIGHT, STOP MAKING DINOSAURS" Ironic that not only is one of the main characters in-universe effectively arguing against what the filmmakers are doing with the franchise, they flat-out ACKNOWLEDGED it in the movie and still went ahead with it

[@rjkzbkfy9665]

is it as bad as JW ?

[@Resifreak90]

worse. But beautifully shot

[@LinkMarioSamus]

But is it as bad as The Last Jedi?

[@rjkzbkfy9665]

why the fuck you bring TLJ ?

[@LinkMarioSamus]

Because it's supposed to be incredibly bad I guess. I haven't even seen it TBH.

[@Chandasouk]

BD Wong is ageless

[@jesusstaccato8448]

You talkin about The Fiendish Doctor Wu?

[@shinbakihanma2749]

1 2 BROTHER!! YOUR DEATH WILL NOT GO UNAVENGED!!!!!

[@shinbakihanma2749]

Terminimal Now we NEED a Black Dynamite/Jurassic Park crossover film, or else my life won't ever feel complete.😆🤣😂

[@srRaxel]

Uffff, you must watch Mr. Robot, BD makes an incredible villian

[@VainAttempts]

Bro looks younger in the newest flick

[@ZoraTheberge]

One thing I think really works about the original is that it’s a very small film, in a sense. You have a small core cast of characters who all interact and relatively stay together on a team. Compared to the hordes of crowds and ensemble cast that hardly interact and don’t get enough time to have fleshed out stories. Keep it small somehow.

[@kingstew2000]

I agree, Hammond would never have wanted the park to be rebuilt.

[@FixTheFlick]

All of the sequels have just been about dinosaurs going wild. The first Jurassic Park was about WHY the dinosaurs go wild.

[@Snardvark25]

Fix-The-Flick we all know that. Doesn't effect the criticism...

[@mecham7011]

Because a fat man sabotages everything and lets the dinosaurs loose?

[@TheActionBrick]

I had an idea for a Jurassic Park sequel. What if, instead of it revolving around trying to bring Jurassic Park back, it was about making sure there would never be one again. How would the world react to someone taking such a discovery and throwing it all away? Could make an interesting story.

[@RicardoHipper]

The Action Brick That's a good idea. The antagonists believing that dinosaurs should stay dead

[@MrChickennugget360]

problem is to make good CGI dinosaurs you need a big budget. to draw the big crowds you need to make a dumbed down action movie.

[@Jaydavid25.]

+MR.Chickenuget.. No you don't or else the Transformer movies would have still been doin as good as they were.. No need to be pretentious LOL..

[@Dejawolfs]

nonsense. you just need to add love triangles. on a slightly more serious note, it could be interesting. PETA activists trying to protect dinosaurs vs govt soldiers on a mission to eradicate all dinos. story could be simple, too many thrillriders going there and getting themselves killed, govt soldiers going in to eradicate dinos, PETA sabotaging their efforts, resulting in people getting killed, what results is a predator-style romp through the jungle, where soldiers are trying to save the PETA people from themselves, interesting arguments could ensue, like it's wrong to kill the dinosaurs, vs they should have never existed in the first place. you could have scenes where soldiers saving PETA guy from velociraptors, and PETA guys crying over the dead dinosaur. it'd be hilarious.

[@ketchupkatsup9805]

The Action Brick because, just like real life, there will always be people who thinks it's okay so they can make money from it. Fallen Kingdom finally closes the door on any park ever being built, but then people do other bad shit from the assets as they never learn, as neither do we.

[@agnesppppppp]

Your commentary on owen and claire is literally perfect like you put words to my exact thoughts on the jurassic world films thank you

[@bravetherainbow]

"The movie seems to want to tell a story about how bowing to the demands of consumers and capitalism leads to disaster" But not if it's a new Jurassic Park movie, am I right guys?!

[@kloggmonkey]

the idea of weaponizing "velociraptors" belongs in a saturday morning cartoon.

[@vanferuli3]

kloggmonkey Say that yo trained dogs, we take 100000 years to trained them,

[@replay_rewind]

@vanferuli3 But we don't use dogs to eat people in war. Also, dogs don't cost 20 million dollars to create and millions more to feed. Dogs are hardly used in the military anymore. No use making a 20 million dollar animal to use in battle only for it to die...and then have to make another 20 million dollar animal to replace it.

[@joekaz5198]

Natedonut I would suggest you do a little research on how dogs are used in the military today. Your statement is miles from being remotely correct.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

So are you trying to imply dogs are used the same way as soliders.

[@unstoppableExodia]

DINO-RIDERS !!!!!!!

[@ThierryVerhoeven]

Storywise Jurassic Park just isn't franchise material (kinda like Terminator and Alien), but unfortanately it's too popular for Hollywood to leave it alone.

[@WedgeOfSpite]

You mean beyond one sequel? because Terminator 2 and Aliens are AWESOME. Two of the best action movies of all time. Though I grant you that Alien is more of a horror/mystery film, and Aliens is a kick-ass action film, so tonally as a sequel, it is a bit jarring. But the lore, characterization (s) from Alien, are carried out well, and make sense in Aliens, which is completely unlike the subsequent sequels or, shudder, those wretched prequels (sorry, Patrick, Alien: Prometheus and Covenant sucked inside out).

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

@WedgeOfSpite: One might argue that TERMINATOR 1 is also more horror than action compared to TERMINATOR 2.

[@ThierryVerhoeven]

Exactly. These two sequels work because they pretty much redo the first one, but with a different style and tone. It resulted in great films, but remaking the first one with a twist is not really franchise building. It's no coincidence both franchises never managed to churn out another great entry.

[@namegoeshere5220]

Thierry Verhoeven It's not impossible...it's just missing the point that ruins it. Companies just throw directors and money at them to get franchises to make toys and stuff to make more money. Spielberg only did JP2 to make a passion project movie, if I remember correctly. Those three franchises you mentioned are partially horror. Terminator is basically a slasher movie with a robot, Alien and JP are monster movies with natural (not supernatural) animals. The sequals after the first sequals just turn them into schlock action movies.

[@bobjuniorman5352]

Alien has so much franchise potential though, I wouldn’t lump it in with JP and Terminator.

[@brettpgh3312]

Nailed it. I'm always stuck by the issue that the "problem" of dinosaurs is very easily solved by men with guns, you know, like exactly what would absolutely happen. "Oh no! The dinosaurs are loose and rampaging yet again!" "Well thankfully they aren't bulletproof. We have a competent security team and plenty of weapons, I mean why wouldn't we?"

[@vincentmuyo]

"But a tyrannosaurus wouldn't go down easily to bullets!" First: Yes it would. Second: Tank. Taaaank.

[@starkistuna]

​@@vincentmuyo en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_(crocodile)

[@thomasking1490]

"Remember when he was gonna make Star Wars episode 9?" Oh Patrick of 2018, would that you had known.

[@Tareltonlives]

JJ Abrams: he makes Colin Trevvorow look competent by comparison

[@blokey8]

@@Tareltonlives Alternatively, Rian Johnson writing a setup: solid enough that even Colin Trevorrow can successfully Yes And it.

[@Tareltonlives]

@@blokey8 That's the thing: as much as I disliked the Last Jedi, you could make a good movie following it. Even Colin Trevvorow could have done it. And yet JJ Abrams failed even that.

[@grooblesmedia]

The problem with The Lost World was they didn't follow the novel. The novel was actually really good! However Michael Crichton was not involved in writing the script and the stupid idea of taking the dinosaurs off the island was never included.

[@yskitv5118]

Groobles Media I agree the book was really good! I loved the chameleon like dinosaurs. Carnotaurus I think they were? Great idea.

[@cyberfutur5000]

you're right about the book, but the whole going of island part, is just spielbergs way of saying "i really like this 1930's king kong movie" just watch this and you'll see. It's the same story, even the ships have the same name " ss venture", they send a team on an island, but it was just a trick, to capture the "king of the island" and bring it to the big city, were people shall gaze in wonder, but it breaks loose and kills every one. But I'm with you, they should have stuck to the book, it's way better. By far.

[@remnantviscera4137]

I found the book a bit disappointing compared to the first. Partly because it begins by killing off one of the best characters of the first book unceremoniously (the lawyer) and bringing Malcom back to life. Perhaps an unusual opinion, but I honestly found Malcolm to be just about the worst character in the first book. I can only read so many chapters of a barely conscious self obsessed sycophant talk about how inevitable a fairly convoluted situation is. I get the theme of the book, but the blind lack of self awareness of how preachy those parts come off is less than fun. Malcom was toned down a bit in annoyingness in the sequel book, though, which is a saving grace. It’s generally a good book, but honestly I found the discussion about what was happening on the island ended up being a lot more interesting than the actual characters. The film sequel definitely has a more interesting ending. But the rest of it is pretty inferior to the book. I’d just recommend people read the first book and keep in mind that no one will judge you for flipping forward a few pages during the Malcom scenes.

[@belias360]

Malcolm wasn't annoying to me. He was brought there as a consultant and did his job. The park was a bad idea, and the people were idiots to try to capitalize off of them. I'd be preachy and annoyed too if people were getting eaten left and right because they didn't listen to me, an expert.

[@reggiemartin6709]

I LIKE THE LOST WORLD. NEVER GOT THE HATE.

[@telekinesticman]

I love The Lost World! It's got problems, but JP3 is the truly awful one. Jurassic World is just "fine" at best.

[@Tombobreaker]

Agreed. JP is the best, TLW and JW are acceptable sequels and were fun, Lost Kingdom looks like it'll continue that trend, can't tell till I see it. JP3 was trash and nearly killed the franchise had it not been for the success of JP's 3D release in theatres doing good for a limited release they might not have even done JW.

[@mjstraz3593]

The Lost World is pretty good up until they had a T-Rex walking around the streets of San Francisco.. That was just dumb.

[@Tombobreaker]

That was the best part!

[@nicolascage4812]

Peter Stormare is a fucking scientologist. I hate those so much

[@ctkachuk08]

"remember when Trevarrow was going to make episode IX". We call those the good times now.

[@internetual7350]

Lol yeah when he said that I thought in my head "Well it certainly would've been better then what we got"

[@RedMageUltra]

“I truly believe Coli Trevorow does not know what he’s doing” Yeah that pretty much summarizes Colin’s entire film career

[@theM4R4T]

I think Lost World is alright. One of coolest characters is the hunter guy Roland, who came to the island with the corparate guys to hunt the T-Rex. In the end he's got more respect for the dinosaurs and the activists. He should have been the main focus.

[@rainer_uncrowned]

There is a good JP sequel: The Lost World Jurassic Park

[@zingzaber6989]

Yeeeees! I agree 100%

[@juanyusee8197]

There are some issues, but out of the sequels I enjoyed it the most because it at least still tried to portray the dinosaurs as actual animals.

[@zombielizard218]

The volcano was powering the island. They literally say it's a Geothermal power planet. In both the first and second movie. Geothermal power requires volcanic activity.

[@zombielizard218]

Like, some people say the volcano came out of nowhere, it didn't. It was always there, as apart of how the Park Worked.

[@Knightmessenger]

Still pretty stupid to put a theme park there if a volcano will erupt in 3 years. I mean even if Jurassic World had gone completely right, the volcano would have still forced them to evacuate.

[@papajhonsreal]

@@Knightmessenger dude, do you realize how many large, expensive cities are build right by volcanoes? because there are a lot.

[@blokey8]

In the wake of the Duel of the Fates script, we can at last be certain that Owen isn't an ironic character because Trevorrow turned Poe Dameron into the exact same cutout "badass". Side note: props to the Triceratops line for the underrated dinosaur, the funniness of the line and Matt still selling the tragedy.

[@Gemnist98]

A badass? Really? He was the sub to Rey’s dom!

[@MariaVosa]

I think Jurassoc Parl III could have worked - IF they had focused on the kid getting stranded and having to study and learn about the dinosaurs in order to survive. That would have covered both horror and awe. And Sam Neill's character should have only turned up in the last third. And no stupid mercenaries.

[@Boltscrap]

IndoFilm484 The whole problem of JPIII was that there was no plot, that's actually true, what we have all seen was cobbled up from different plotlines and filmed scenes into something that resembles a movie. It's a damn shame too, considering that any of the purposed plots would have at least given the movie focus if they had stuck with it through the production.

[@eXcommunicate1979]

I would have made it something like 'The Martian', where a really resourceful and intelligent ADULT has to figure out how to survive after being stranded on the island. The setup would be that 10 years after the events of JP1, InGen or some other company has convinced the world that they had the island under control. Perhaps instead of a "theme park" experience they are selling safari tours onto the island and that goes haywire. Dunno. But either way, I would have gone 'The Martian' route. I also would have had the T-Rex show up at the end when the humans were scared out onto the beach, and have a final fight against the Spino. The original "climax" of the Spino storyline in the film was some serious weak sauce. The "Costa Rican Marines" showing up at the end was ludicrous. lol

[@papajhonsreal]

that's actually a really cool idea

[@hughgallagher8289]

I would be really interested in a sequel set about 50-100 years later when the mistakes of the park are somewhat forgotten and like three arrogant teens return to the island to explore it.

[@CosmicLatte1]

Hugh Gallagher This is almost the opposite of what he’s arguing here.

[@p.bamygdala2139]

So the sequels were basically the modern day equivalent of “hey, don’t run from the maniac upstairs in the house!”

[@ender7278]

I'd say we can still empathize with the leads in the sequels because in Malcolm's case, he's just there to tell them how stupid they're being and to leave immediately, while Grant is, like you said, basically kidnapped.

[@waynereacts5553]

You've completely missed the point: the dinos represent the Vietcong and the film's are about "family". See?

[@Kwijiboz]

Wayne Reacts A+ comment right there

[@Dinoslay]

Vietcong Park. :P

[@Gruntvc]

Those damn raptors in the trees. Poor Jimmy...

[@scrambled5948]

The last time I was this early, Kevin Spacey was still a respectable actor.

[@tomlion0116]

I still love Baby Driver! :D

[@seanbean4682]

I'm fine with any sequel that has *more* Goldblum. Never less.

[@joeyjerry1586]

Well Goldblum was the main character in the lost world

[@everlot1000]

"A triceratops GORED my girlfriend"

[@jmiken]

the very existence of jurassic world is an ironic proof of its moral

[@raindropsneverfall]

No, the message of Jurassic Park is about thinking you can control nature, but you can't. _»I didn't have enough respect for that power, and it's out now.«_ Remember the scene between Dr. Sattler and Hammond?

[@chrislacy1990]

Mads D I agree with your point and vividly remember that scene between John Hammond and Dr. Ellie Sattler; however, Patrick already explained that near the 4:22 mark. “Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. Don’t try to play God and go against the will of nature.”

[@Siegbert85]

But irl you could. Jurassic Park didn't work out because of the amateurs working there. Dinosaurs are just animals at the end of the day.

[@1TrueJuliet]

People have really got to learn to tell the difference when people say "Jurassic Park" and "Jurassic World."

[@eXcommunicate1979]

The "don't try to control nature" moral just doesn't add up when you look at the actual events in the film (JP1). The animals didn't escape, they were TURNED LOOSE by Nedry's poor planning. Similar things could have happened if he had turned loose a bunch of crocodiles, and lions, and sharks into a water park, yet would we come away with the moral of the story being "don't try to control nature"? No, the moral of the story is don't fuck your employees or they'll fuck you. lol In reality, if Jurassic Park were possible, there's no damn way the parent company would skimp so badly on security and fail safes. They just wouldn't. JP1 is a wonderful movie, but there were so many implausible mistakes made that another moral of the story could be: hire competent planners.

[@tanner.fletcher]

There are multiple messages yes.

[@ernestrobinson8441]

The problem with Jurassic Park is that the Jurassic Park movie world is not that big. It's pretty much just one story: dinosaurs get/are loose and try to eat people. You can only do that so many times and it really only worked once.

[@Wyattporter]

This video is 2 years old but I feel like I *have* to point out that the shaving cream can *was* followed up on in the lesser-known yet incredible Telltale Games Jurassic Park game, in which some people go to the island during & after the events of the movie to contain it and recover the can, the game ends with it either being crushed by a _T. rex_ or taken off the island to an unknown fate

[@RothurThePaladin]

Dr Ian Malcolm is the best character in all the movies. Bless Jeff Goldblum.

[@Hogie1990]

Rothur The Paladin Grant is too.

[@karlandjeff]

Rothur The Paladin John Hammond and Dr. Ian Malcolm are the best IMO

[@TimThomason]

He's so good, Jeff Goldblum plays him in every movie now.

[@Wixhael]

"Dijorno?" "Delivery."

[@daveg1538]

I'd like to see a prequel, a story about what inspired john hammond to build the park, seeing the excitement of them creating their first dinosaurs

[@lordtrigon1733]

Interesting idea. Who do you think should play Hammond though?

[@anubusx]

Andrew Garfield.

[@paulkyle]

@@lordtrigon1733 someone Scottish would've been great. David Tennant maybe

[@lawrencecalablaster568]

That little shot of Matt crying over his girlfriend's photo while a sad piano cover of the theme plays was probably one of the saddest things I've seen in film.

[@KVirello]

Lost World, the second one, is a good sequel that is much beloved by the devoted JP fanbase. Only the 3rd has been disowned.

[@pvthitch]

I knew Jurassic World was gonna be bad when I saw a woman carrying four OBVIOUSLY empty Starbuck's cups.

[@80MWH]

"They keep...going...back." Reminds me of how I feel regarding every single Terminator film following T1 and T2: "They keep...trying...to bring...Arnold back." That to me is Terminator's ultimate crutch: it should be about the story of John Connor trying to become the leader of the human resistance, but the film was saddled long ago with Arnold being the big-name star, and T3 just gave into that fandom and brought him back again...and since then, more people just go on the Arnold name-brand recognition, rather than be interested in the actual story...of which the writers can never seem to make it interesting!" Some really like Genisys, but really, Genisys just feels like internet fanfiction, of someone mashing together the first 2 Terminator films, replacing Eddie Furlong with a young and bossy Sarah Connor, and making Arnold out to be THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER IN THE FILM! And John? Well, noone really liked him so they made him a Terminator! *what a twist!*

[@anubusx]

I agree T1 and T2 are the only ones that exist.

[@lukesmith1818]

the story has always pivoted around sarah connor, not john. t1 sees her transform from a frightened waitress to a fighter "you're terminated, fucker". t2 sees her struggle with being a mother who is disconnected from her child. shes why they worked

[@lyledeyounges1276]

I fucking love Jurassic Park. The problem is that it's one those movies that really doesn't need a sequel. I would give The Lost World a pass because it too was based on Crichton's books. Loosely. The rest of the sequels are unnecessary, and the dinosaurs have gone from being uncontrollable animals to being pure rampaging monsters whose favourite meal is not other dinosaurs, but almost exclusively tiny us, and they hunt us relentlessly - even when their whole whole 'world' is literally blowing up around them. They are tired and stressed out, and they need to be left alone already.

[@rjkzbkfy9665]

i think Jurassic Park Lost World is good, but with other agree

[@thema1998]

Rjkz ,bkfy I thought that The Lost World: Jurassic Park was just okay. It wasn't anything special.

[@peanutismint]

Thanks for helping me come to terms with a feeling I didn’t know how to articulate. Like the Terminator movies, I hate that none of the sequels have been anywhere near as good as the earlier instalments, but I do appreciate that it’s keeping one of my favourite franchises in the public eye and potentially in theme park attractions etc, which would be great.

[@fairlyodd922]

Movie pitch: Man is on a fishing vessel that capsizes. He washes up on shore as the lone survivor, and thanks his lucky stars. Then it becomes clear that the island he's washed up on is Isla Nublar post-Jurassic Park. So he has to dodge dinosaurs as he navigates the island and finds a way to call for help

[@SpongeyTheEditor]

If even Speilberg himself couldn't pull off a JP sequel, why even bother?

[@Wilantonjakov]

Jared Pahl it's not that great mate!

[@SpongeyTheEditor]

Jared Pahl I don't find Lost World to be bad but it's really Average. The story is thin, the charecters are weak except for Jeff Goldblum but the set pieces are well done. But it's mostly boring and overlong, especially compare to the first.

[@StefanoFierros]

Tarantino

[@Wilantonjakov]

Spongey444 this.

[@chatteyj]

The lost world is ok its just the characters are amazingly annoying (probably some of the most annoying characters on film) and so it drags the film down and also the plot is a little forced. A better JP sequel would have a more organic storyline and better characters that you cared about.

[@THENBASTORYTELLER]

dinosaurs as a tool of nostalgia... something is really funny about that. like saying the big bang is the ultimate nostalgia

[@prometheus9096]

Ah good times before the universe decided to get "cool" with all this fancy atoms...

[@elevate07]

You kids with your time and space. When I was young we didn't need atomic structure

[@Tom361E]

7:33 that scene transition has stuck in my head since I've seen it and I believe it's planted the seed that became my dark humor appreciation

[@scarow1]

That episode 9 joke didn't age well

[@teestephenson3667]

The Lost World Was a Great Sequel In My Opinion .

[@papajhonsreal]

based

[@timy9197]

4:50 this applies to the SW sequel trilogy too

[@HallsteinI]

Part of what makes the sequels contrived is that the characters and driving forces in the universe keep trying to reuse the same premise: the theme park. You can't recycle the theme park and expect the audience to buy it.

[@Crispy_Bee]

Fun fact: the first draft of Jurassic Park III was based on the book Jurassic Park - it includes a side-story where dinosaurs kill animals on the mainland.

[@Crispy_Bee]

Lost World was a fantastic movie and still holds up extremely well!

[@anubusx]

Better than Fallen Kingdom.

[@GuitarMikeRocks]

11:13 I’ve been saying this to everyone since the movie came out! I hated how this scene was handled! Such a waste of Michael Giacchino’a arrangement.

[@Scotty-Doo626]

I always thought the point of it showing the park as opposed to some dinosaur filled landscape was supposed to be an “OMG, this was John Hammond’s original dream actually finally happening.” Y’know before he learnt his lesson about leaving the dinosaurs alone...

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

When you realize at the end Patrick was just pitching 1993's "We're Back!"

[@ordalieduvoyageur]

The problem of this movie is no one listening to jeff goldblum So true XD

[@jerrod7361]

Have you read Lost World? I really love that book, the movie is almost nothing like it

[@niallreid7664]

You read Jurassic Park? Friggin brilliant book.

[@matthewpahnke2613]

Only Crichton book I've picked up that I couldn't finish. Hate the book. Hate the movie. Love the original book and original movie. Hmm.

[@Chihyou]

Matthew Pahnke the pacing was a bit too slow in lost world. Probably why I didn't finish it. The original was great. Sad they didn't kill of you know who in the movie series.

[@ketchupkatsup9805]

Jerrod Hankins yeah the book was definitely better. Had so many cool scenes they didn't put in the movie. Sarah Harding on a motorbike being chased by raptors was reworked into Jurassic World tho

[@bennettfender1546]

ketchupkatsup dude the book was the definition of mediocre Dodgson was a wasted villain that only attacked one of our characters the heroes weren't even in any danger until 300 pages into a 416 page book the book had a terrible climax that felt like Crichton didn't have a clue of how to end it and our characters reasoning for going was really stupid especially with Malcom yeah once you get into it the book isn't as good as you people say it is.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

"Dammit Matt, I'm editing a video about dogs in cinema!!" 😆🤣😂

[@mrliteral9347]

Yeah, who else now really wants to see that dog video?

[@tw770]

If I was going to write a sequel to JP I would've done something like a cruise ship full of passengers gets ship wrecked on the island and they are scared shitless and just need to survive. Make it true suspense, horror, and - like you said - relatable characters.

[@jesustheres]

"Why does it need corporate, greedy bad guys?" There wouldnt be a park in the first place without it!

[@RexusKing]

One word: prequel

[@adamman9565]

Rexus King how would that work?

[@poppyraima5342]

I've always been quite interested in seeing how a functioning park would work when things are running as intended and nobody's making stupid decisions for the sake of movie logic. I think one of the biggest drawbacks, if not outright missteps of _Jurassic World_ is that it reinvigorated the awe of _Jurassic Park_ by having a functioning park -- even if the creatures within weren't as interesting themselves as they were the first time around since they keep using the same old and increasingly outdated designs -- and introducing a few interesting elements like the human-raptor relationship and hybridized dinosaurs, but then scuttling all of it for the sake of same ol', same ol' monster carnage for 2/3 of the film. Much of the original novel was just describing the day-to-day activities within the park; I don't see why having a smaller scale movie focused more on the ethics of genetic engineering and zoo animal maintenance in the context of the _Jurassic World_ universe couldn't work. Plus you could also invoke one of the criticisms of the _Jurassic World_ series (why the "dinosaurs" look inaccurate) and create some sort of corporate conspiracy angle out of that; Wu's line in the actual movie treats the entire premise as just a throwaway bit of meta excuse to the science-minded critics of the film itself who pointed out how outdated the creature designs were and lambasted Trevorrow's decision to actively be regressive under the veil of "It's science fiction, not a documentary."

[@Wilantonjakov]

Terminimal best script ever

[@RexusKing]

What the h**l...? Please tell me what drug you're taking master! So it's basically a Planet of the Apes and reversed Jurassic Park mash-up :)?

[@anyareyes2663]

Terminimal i actually wanna see that now.

[@Mr11thDoctor]

Great video, but a correction at 1:24 - Temple of Doom isn't a sequel. It's a prequel, set in 1935, one year before Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[@Mr11thDoctor]

… You got me there.

[@ScreamerProductionss]

I loved The Lost World. I thought that it was a great continuation of the first one.

[@kellyrox8910]

It's insane how your final point was that a good sequel could be made if you got the dinosaurs off the island (NOT for a stupid reason like people were inanely trying to help) and had them coexist somehow with human society. And Dominion literally did that, but, obviously, SO BADLY. Like it's so simple and yet just that one sentence they managed to fuck up multiple times. CLONE GIRL release them because she's a clone (okay???) and then instead of having the movie be about dinos in human civilization it was about LOCUSTS. And somehow ANOTHER dinosaur park. Colin Trevorow PLEASE. And I think you make an excellent point about recapturing both wonder and common sense in JP sequels in order to make them good. Camp Cretaceous actually really excels in both areas if you're interested in ACTUAL good JP sequel material. It's Jurassic Park's criminally underrated TV show on Netflix. It takes place during the events of Jurassic World (and after) about a group of camp kids surviving on the island after the Indominus Rex massacre. It does a fantastic job of recreating the wonder and horror of the original, because you get 3 episodes of the kids being enchanted by the dinosaurs before havoc breaks loose. Then the horror kicks it, because, dinosaurs. But also because they're a group of unsupervised kids trying to navigate a deadly island when it's VERY CLEAR to them that the theme park is poorly managed. It also does a good job of giving the kids realistic, believable motivations for their actions when they do stupid things. Mainly, being a kid makes you do dumb things, but each of the characters differs so wildly from the next that all their dumb kid actions are motivated by completely different things. It really feels like the show is looking directly at the sequel movies and saying THIS IS WHAT YOU DID WRONG. That's my Camp Cretaceous plug for the day. It's a genuinely fun show with some of the best character development I've seen in ages. And there's a ton of fun dino content. Lots more can be done with dinosaurs when the show is fully CG.

[@Ngamotu83]

15:30 The Jurassic Park novel, from which the movie is adapted, opens with that very scenario. A series of strange animal attacks in Costa Rica, and Alan Grant and Ellie Sattler are contacted to identify the creature responsible for the attacks. Not only that but a good part of the novel focuses on Alan and the kids trying to return to the visitor center because they had knowledge of some velociraptors stowed away on a cargo ship, and they needed to contact the ship to prevent them from making port on the mainland. Quite frankly, the original book contains a lot of material not included in the movie that could be used for a promising sequel, but it's never used. Instead what the studio gives us in all the sequels is cliched textbook monster movies.

[@lukesmith1818]

the novel is fantastic. hammond is way less sympathetic, the kids less annoying and grant is less grumpy. all the better for it

[@MovieBuffConnorJamieson]

17:30 Holy shit that's an awesome edit. As another aspiring filmmaker, your amazing directing recently is inspiring. (It's also cool to see good visual comedy stuff that's not just Edgar Wright copies).

[@ZoraTheberge]

What if they just borrow the premise of Little Shop of Horrors. ‘When a poor pet shop employee discovers an unusualness lizard in the store, he takes care of it until it’s huge and becomes a major attraction. But it feasts on human flesh (maybe it sleeps during the day? That way all the horror scenes with it active are at night) and could risk costing this man every thing he loves. That way it’s about regular people making regular choices and learning.

[@eXcommunicate1979]

If we really cloned dinosaurs, I have no doubt we'd be able to handle them in a theme park like setting. Remember that it wasn't nature that got out of control, it was one employee, Nedry, who caused the park to go under. He unleashed the animals due to his poor planning and greed. (In the film) the animals didn't escape their pens, they were let loose. Any real such park would have so many fail safes it would be more secure than Fort Knox.

[@zingzaber6989]

eXcommunicate1979 I 100% agree. About time someone say this.

[@brianmessemer2973]

Go read Crichton’s novel bro. The lack of control they had in Jurassic Park went far beyond Nedry. Unfortunately the film didn’t have time to demonstrate this point properly but Crichton’s novel does it very thoroughly.

[@hendrong]

Book canon isn't movie canon.

[@zingzaber6989]

hendrong That's irrelevant. He didn't really say it was. He just implied the movie could've shown another aspect from the book.

[@Tareltonlives]

Which is why Jurassic World is so idiotic: They HAD IT. They GAINED That triumph. They had to be ABYSSMALLY stupid to throw it away.

[@candeniz5999]

I wonder what Dr.Grant is doing since Jurassic Park 3. He is probably just watching tv and seeing people going to the island again being like 'These people are an idiot'. I think after Fallen Kingdom Malcolm was like 'screw it I don't care nobody listens to me'

[@JoseRodriguez-un2kc]

you know make a great Jurassic Park sequel... Dinosaurs take back the Earth.

[@jschofield5181]

Looks like Jurassic World 3 is planning something along those lines.

[@JoseRodriguez-un2kc]

James Schofield be a ballsy move.

[@Thormaturgy]

Dinosaurs eat man... woman inherits the earth

[@Laura-ck2hh]

Basically Planet of the Apes with Dinosaurs, except that Dinosaurs don't have the same reasoning as Apes so it would directly be total war and no politics.

[@catspaw3092]

Women hate women bad idea.

[@marcomeme4875]

I think the second movie still works. You can empathize with Malcom wanting to go back to the island to bring his girlfriend back home. It’s all the characters around him that make terrible decisions and it shows that he has all the experiences, while everyone else sucks. The Lost World still has plenty of stuff going for it. But other than that, I agree completely.

[@dominicscreativefilms]

Honestly, while not perfect, I do believe The Lost World is the best of the sequels for 3 reasons: 1. Somewhat competent directing 2. John Williams score 3. Jeff Goldblum's character (The only character in the franchise with common sense)

[@dakinademino977]

Resist T-shirt... Nope, I'm outta here!

[@Randystudio217]

Dakina Demino 100%

[@MrHootiedean]

If you thought the previous sequels were bad wait until you get a load of Fallen Kingdom.

[@ChicagoMel23]

MrHootiedean It’s not bad.

[@MrHootiedean]

ChicagoMel23 Based off his grievances with the other films I think he'll consider it bad because FK suffers from all the same problems except worse.

[@TheRodentSama]

The Lost World was decent. Action follow up to the original as it was the only way they could go with it. Moving it to the city at the end, was a mark of genius to differentiate it from the original movie. Plus, there at least was a script, and a direction for the movie to go. JP3 never had a script. They were literally writing it on the morning of shooting. Even the cast had no idea what they were doing... Tea Leoni in interviews, repeatedly refers to the dinosaurs as "Animal-tronics". All they had in place, was they needed dinosaurs, and people on an island, a couple of scenes choreographed so they could get the dinosaurs to interact with the cast. So they built jungle sets, and built dinosaurs... brought the cast onto the set, handed them the script that still had wet ink on it... and hit record on the cameras. Jurassic World... took the best bits of the first 3... and mashed them messily into one movie. Sure, the scenes are good, but they're not connected. It's a case of "This happens, then this happens..." no connection needed... just this scene happens, then the next scene, just, well, happens.

[@alroth1035]

Man, Matt's such a funny guy. Really enjoy watching him in your vids, you guys keep up the great work!

[@ubayyd]

Perfect timing

[@hrthrhs]

YES!! The shaving cream can from the first JP. I always thought that could be something to base a plot of.

[@Sup3rH4ns]

So, I know this is over a year old (and noone is going to care), but the whole thing was that the shaving foam can could only keep the embryos viable for 36 hours. Once it was buried in mud, that was pretty much game over - all you are going to find is decomposing mush after a few days

[@mananwashere]

Man I love your videos !!

[@nicholasmorris3924]

The thing people seem to keep ignoring, when they talk about 'everything going wrong', is it's not so much a problem with the park ITSELF. Jurassic Park had it's major issue because someone from the inside basically sabotaged it out of greed. Jurassic World seemed to be going well until they decided to make a new dino out of....greed. It stands to reason, if the people in the park just made better decisions or didn't sabotage it...things probably wouldn't have turned out so bad.

[@PokePresto]

The second one is great.....

[@zingzaber6989]

Tormund Giantsbane yes, it is

[@telekinesticman]

I was a bit worried you'd go pretty hard against The Lost World in this video, since I feel it's genuinely good and easily the best JP sequel, but I was glad to see you still acknowledged it's stronger elements! JP3 is the absolute rock bottom in my eyes, and World was disappointing but not completely awful like JP3.

[@84seahawkfan]

TelekinesticMan it was good up until his daughter defeated a velociraptor with gymnastics

[@telekinesticman]

That is quite literally the only scene I outright hate in the entire movie.

[@Summer_Tea]

I actually think JW is monumentally worse than JP3. JP3 is a series of action sequences strung together with no plot, but at least it doesn't have ridiculously implausible things happening in it.

[@telekinesticman]

Overall yes, that's my biggest issue with JW. It's far too unbelievable.

[@rome8180]

Why not do away with the premise of the dinosaurs as monsters entirely? Why not make a movie more like ET or Okja? Focus on a single plant-eating dinosaur or a small herd of them. Have one human character trying to protect them and the world at large trying to destroy them.

[@twonerdsandageekproduction3831]

Why not have the dinosaurs find their way off the island on their own? Why do we always have to have corporate guys ruining it for everyone, it's almost like the dinos have become a sidepiece. The point of these movies is that the dinosaurs are not to be tampered with, I know, but that's because they're capable, and why not have some of the swimming dinosaurs migrate? Or the flying dinosaurs? Maybe we wouldn't get an iconic t-rex scene but we'd get to explore some other cool dinos instead Edit: I hadn't finished the video by the time I wrote this comment but I'm glad you feel the same way Pat

[@danielvieira3471]

I'll be heretical and argue that the Lost World was ok, fight me

[@SquidwardAF]

They should just build stronger cages. This solves the "humbling" and "muh nature" problems.

[@trevorlennon1440]

Just found out about channel! Love watching and listening to your points of view! I would love to show these to my Video Production classes, but it cant have swearing! I don't want to take away from your personality and your creativity, but I could see a lot of teachers using your videos for education!

[@aztektheultimatewoman]

A Jurassic Park sequel needs to be the Aliens to the original’s Alien. Something completely different that uses the established mythology (which, in this case, is just dinosaurs... so it’s not that hard) to tell a new story.