Just As GOOD As The 9MM?...Winchester White Box .380 Auto Self-Defense AMMO Test!

[@robertebenreck1652]

Thanks for using the clothing barrier. It's really been an eye opener on how many hollow points fail to perform after passing through cloth.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir 😎👍

[@dirtyscoundrel2013]

Filling the hollow point with melted wax helps defeat the cloth barrier and enhanced expansion.

[@RealtyPro7]

I remember when you began to make the change to always using the clothing. That was a great response to subscriber requests and improvement to the tests! And it definitely changed the performance results on most JHP ammo. Except HST lol. And it showed that in 380, no JHP could reliably keep up with things like the Underwood Xtreme Defender and Penetrator. Those seem to be the absolute king of 380, along with other calibers as well. That’s potentially a life & death lesson for people that pocket carry. An added benefit is that you are using what is likely the most common and best pocket 380 right now. It’s hard to beat 13 rounds in a gun as tiny as the LCP MAX. @toolsandtargets

[@nickloven6728]

​@dirtyscoundrel2013 hornady critical duty/defense is a good for that reason.

[@dirtyscoundrel2013]

@@nickloven6728 what if you don't have critical defense? Not everyone can afford high dollar ammo.

[@glennpearson3056]

"Basic Title!"

[@rob6850]

Basic Title Jelly Time!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@runningwithscissors3997]

Carry what you got. Put enough holes and they'll want to stop leaking. EDC handguns as a whole are not a one stop wonder with a magic bullet. Rock on! Always appreciate the time and effort.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@alexsherel3344]

Exactly…

[@MrBuckeye63]

380 ACP Self Defense Ammo 1st. The ammo functions 2nd. Accurate 3rd. penetration 4th. Expansion is gravy

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@redwolf7807]

That's how it works in the real world.

[@goodnewseverybody739]

Yes function is a real priority with these micros, the tight tolerances and feed ramp angles, combined with small variations on bullet geometry from different rounds can make them “finicky “ more than any other than 22’s.

[@caleb6988]

If the freedom seeds don't expand, I don't buy them for self defense. They will be range ammo only. Definitely another great freedom seed test brother tools.

[@tundranomad]

As an OR RN, I used to work at a trauma facility there in Virginia for about 6 years, now in Alaska. I once had a guy shot 11 times with a .380 and survived. He was shot in the chest, back, both arms and legs. On xray, you could see little bullets all over the place. Some were recovered, some were left in. None of the bullets were hollowpoint, just round nose. I have no idea the distance he was shot from, and I dont remember why he was shot, maybe he just needed killing. Not a fan of the .380, but a big fan of the channel brother!

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

NorthwoodsTesting and GunSamRevolverAficionado channels both have done Lots of 380 HP ammo tests as well as Tools and Targets testing. All 3 channels do good testing in gel with heavy clothing barriers. There are some good Hollowpoint 380 ammo brand choices but there are not as many as other calibers have. Its either that or shoot 10 times as many non expanding rounds into the target. As you know its massive blood loss and tissue damage that stop a determined target. Yes you need penetration 1st, but expansion is also extremely important, unless your dumping tons of rounds into the target which is farely rare, unless your a cop. I disagree completely with Tools& Targets opinion on using solid projectiles in 380 for this reason. Of course 9mm or 45 is gonna be more lethal, but certian 380 HP rounds are quite effective. It just requires research.

[@Daniel0Turner0Music]

That's surprising that fmj wouldn't pass through a body like that. Wondering the specifics on this one.

[@poisonPpaully]

This Confirms my opinion if you the 380 route your better off with cheaper flat nose fmj that will tumble and still penetrate decent

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

Look up NorthwoodsTesting and GunSamRevolverAficionado channels. They both have done Lots of 380 HP ammo tests as well as Tools and Targets testing. All 3 channels do good testing in gel with heavy clothing barriers. There are some good HP 380 ammo brand choices but there are not as many as other calibers have. Its either that or shoot 10 times as many non expanding rounds into the target to achieve the same blood loss, etc. Remember its massive blood loss and tissue damage, that stop a determined target. Yes you need penetration 1st but expansion is also extremely important, unless your dumping tons of rounds into the target which is rare.

[@3rdpig]

I think you should have called that the "Save some money and buy FMJ jelly test". Or maybe the "Only shoot naked people jelly test". 🤣

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂

[@garrett9564]

😂😂😂

[@jasonrebello5630]

If you're dead set on carrying a. 380 just use a flat nose fmj and don't worry about it

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@jeffreyrobertson7652]

Another good 380 video if you had to pick any 380 round what would it be for self defense Tools Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I would probably just run fmj.😎👊@@jeffreyrobertson7652

[@jasonrebello5630]

@jeffreyrobertson7652 like I said, preferably a flat point fmj but if I can't get it then a regular fmj...I know people are gonna have a lot to say against it but I'd rather be confident that I'm reaching vital organs than having a hollow point stupid in muscle and bone...just my opinion

[@journeyman378]

Absolutely right!

[@JohnPublic-dk7zd]

We haven't carried our Bersa in quite a while, if I recall back then we loaded fmj...it has been a few years, and I can see fmj still makes sense...the nicest thing I can say about .380s is they are still poking unwanted holes, which means they can work...we don't get hung up on velocities, penetration, and expansion numbers, we just want a gun to poke holes...anything more is just gravy, a lot of marketing genius on display...the winchester jhp didn't perform as advertised, but, it still made holes, that IS the bigger half of the battle...bottom line in .380 seems save money, use fmj...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Absolutely.😎👍

[@stangaloski4208]

I really love my colt .380 governments and mustangs. I dont care what the performance is. I just use fmj.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

Look up NorthwoodsTesting and GunSamRevolverAficionado channels. They both have done Lots of 380 HP ammo tests as well as Tools and Targets testing. All 3 channels do good testing in gel with heavy clothing barriers. There are some good HP 380 ammo brand choices but there are not as many as other calibers have. Its either that or shoot 10 times as many non expanding rounds into the target. Remember its massive blood loss and tissue damage that stop a determined target. Yes you need penetration 1st but expansion is also extremely important, unless your dumping tons of rounds into the target which is rare.

[@tedcollins4684]

Thanks for testing for us. Saving us money. Keep up the great work T&T!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya!😎👊

[@jaredw289]

Id pull them and load them in standard pressure 9mm for some fun explosive 9mm

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@jebstuart3]

Regardless of what your gel blocks are showing, I would DEFINITELY use this round in a self-defense scenario. Unless they're strung-out on PCP or some such thing, if somebody gets wacked in the bod (....or the head or neck for that matter) with a .38 caliber round moving anywhere from 872 to 944+ ft/second, you can bet they'll think twice about comin' after ya.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@RL-RL]

Piss poor performance. What's wrong with these companies selling a product that doesn't live up to what they are designed to do? If it's any kind of hollow point, you should at least see something opening up, even if it fragments! Thanks for testing these products as always so we know what to buy and what to stay away from! 💯

[@ToolsandTargets]

Pretty sad.

[@dentalnovember]

$$$$$$ gimmick $$$$$$

[@grigorirasputin5020]

Even without expansion, the HP may do a little more damage than a FMJRN. It would be interesting to see what they did in one layer of t-shirt or bare gel.

[@CrashRacknShoot]

​@@grigorirasputin5020yet at the same time, reputable hps do well in no clothing, clothing, etc. When it comes to a small amount of self defense ammo, don't be cheap, just buy some boxes of HSTs or gold dots. Hell, there websites selling boxes of 50 124 gr 9mm HSTs for about 35 bucks a box. Anyone with a 9 can swing that.

[@joejohnson4183]

@@grigorirasputin5020 I know I live on the Gulf Coast and 9 months out of the year T-shirts are what most people wear except those that wear hoodies in 90+ degree weather .

[@deividbx]

Word is that you never forget your first love, this was the very first box of ammo I purchase, i was literally sitting by the phone waiting for this video

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂

[@ireckon4193]

Unless it’s a solid copper screwdriver round from Underwood, I don’t mess with hollow points in my 380s. FMJs are great for punching holes.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🕳💥

[@gwidwock]

You are correct. At Optics Planet the 380 95gr hollow point box of 50 for $33.79. The same 95gr 380 in FMJ box of 50 is $20.99. You're definitely paying more money and not getting what you want. Thanks for letting us know about the 380 white box. Great test.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@richb.4374]

These tests are awesome! You're going to save me a lot of money in the future because I won't be wasting my money on hollow points for my pocket .380's any longer. The .380 cartridge just doesn't have enough power and velocity behind it to reliably get good expansion and penetration from hollow points. So, use either fmj or penetrator type rounds like the Underwood. From what I've seen in these tests so far, all the popular brands of hollow points are a waste of money in .380 if the barrel is shorter than 4 inches on your carry pistol. And even then performance is "iffy" at best with a hollow point due to clogging from material. The larger calibers seem to have enough energy and velocity behind them that even if they clog up they still expand.

[@tommyspann8852]

That's why I've always heard about using a .380 for self defense.. "You might as well use good quality FMJ ammo.". At least you'll get decent penetration.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yes indeed.

[@OldTimeRevolver]

Very informative Tools, The LCP MAX is certainly not the best all around gun but it does fill a niche that others don't. For some people any form of printing is not a luxury they can afford while for others it just makes for a great backup. Based on your previous videos, I'm still sticking with the FMJFN.

[@30rdmaga]

I agree with you a Pocket with a pistol beats a pocket without everytime.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@cgsimons1187]

For some people being caught carrying can cost them their job and for others they may end up entangled in the legal system(which can also jeopardize one's livelihood.) These little pistols lend themselves to always being on you and easily concealed. I recall a video from over a year ago where John Lovell from Warrior Poet Society had a security breach on his property and was approached by a shady character. This is a GunTuber who was completely unarmed when he may have needed a weapon. I'm guessing he wanted to avoid the hassle and discomfort of carrying his usual sidearm and walked outside without it. Had he at least slipped a little mouse gun in his pocket before walking out the front door he would have been better off.

[@TheColonelJJ]

Love the "Basic Title" 😂👍 Seriously, great test, as always!

[@jamesbell8496]

Yep, might as well run some fmj, same result. Thanks for your time again in another cool video. Cheers

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@tomasfarish7959]

Wow...what a difference between the Winchester "White Box" 9mm vs .380 (see his previous vids). About 20 years ago, I tested quite a few 9mm loads in wet newspaper, and settled on the "White Box" 115g 9mm. When I started carrying .380s in the Summer a few years ago, I tested only a few and settled on the Hornady 90g "Critical Defense". I should probably test the 9mm "Critical Defense" in wet newspaper as well. Actually, I should probably shell out the $$ and test everything I carry in ballistics gel. Years ago, all loads were tested in CCW pistols with 2.0 to 3.0" bbls.

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Basic Title for basically fmj...have a good weekend !

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@DirtyDan1]

380 federal hst is where it's at. 15' penetration and great expansion.

[@OldGlaseye-gf7si]

Why I carry my Glock 42 with Lehigh/Underwood Xtreme Defender..no expansion required plus clothing, it cares not at all.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@richki.24]

at least they made straight lines

[@ToolsandTargets]

I definitely like to see that so I got plenty more test space.😆

[@balancedfordaylight1]

maybe we need a 380 white box FMJ vs white box hollow point just to drive the point home, its too bad the ammo companies don't watch you and others that are putting their products to the test so that they could make improvements.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@Hammerback0]

Welp. I dont have a .380, but for those who choose to carry one, this may help them decide on what ammo to carry. Im comfortable with my edc, and this channel has certainly helped me on my ammo decisions, and saved me a lot of money in doin so. Thanks!

[@alejandrovargas7592]

Thanks. I'm always looking to find really good 380.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Gotta weed em out.😎👊

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

Look up NorthwoodsTesting and GunSamRevolverAficionado channels. They both have done Lots of 380 HP ammo tests as well as Tools and Targets testing. All 3 channels do good testing in gel with heavy clothing barriers. There are some good HP 380 ammo brand choices but there are not as many as other calibers have. Its either that or shoot 10 times as many non expanding rounds into the target. Remember its massive blood loss and tissue damage, that stop a determined target. Yes you need penetration 1st but expansion is also extremely important, unless your dumping tons of rounds into the target which is rare. I bet 70% of the shots dont hit anything vital in most cases, which means you must have massive blood loss to slow/stop a determined attacker. Thats why I completely disagree with Tools on using 380 FMJs instead of a quality penetrating and expanding round. It just takes time and some research to find what works best for your 380 barrel length. Heck most 380s dont hold that many rounds!

[@mikeautry2271]

Could you test a 45 long colt....

[@ToolsandTargets]

Certain ammo or length?

[@mikeautry2271]

@@ToolsandTargets test any ammo I have mag ammo for my 45 long colt...pistol...

[@baptistgaming91]

From my understanding the white box jhp is the winchester silver tip without the silver lubricant coating. It really is a decent jhp from a past era.

[@twistedfocus]

“Basic Title” is all these things deserved. Excellent choice. 😂👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@alejandrovargas7592]

Please consider trying the Golden Saber.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@kevinrichardson8859]

Yes please try golden saber 380😊

[@kimness7796]

Luv your honest opinions here. No sugar coating.

[@jimsanders4412]

Another great video! Definitely good info! My .380 is loaded with the Winchester white box (I think they're 99 gr) flat-nose FMJs. I just received 500 rounds of the Winchester white box, 115 grain, 9mm JHPs. I don't normally load my 9s with anything but Federal 124 grain HSTs, but for $185.00 delivered, the 9s were a deal I couldn't pass up!!😃

[@usernamesrlamo]

9mm White Box has solid expansion

[@Nutty.357]

I doubt I will ever buy a 380 but if someone has one this is invaluable information! You have tested some much better rounds in this cartridge that for sure would be better options! Appreciate ya a bunch! Happy Friday! 💥💥

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. You too!😎👊

[@Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Unfortunately, when it comes to .380 ACP, ammo selection is vital, and it seems like there are only a handful of bullets that expand yet penetrate adequately, and those are XTP, Punch, and Hydrashok Deep. Everything else either fails to expand or under penetrates.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, it's a tricky one to get right.😎👊

[@timgoswick512]

Would only carry the LCP Max .380 in summer with light clothing. Be interesting to see how the ammo performs thru a light clothing barrier (t-shirt)

[@adamannala5498]

One of the best testing chronographs I’ve seen. Love getting the velocity numbers at distance that you don’t typically see when others are doing ballistic testing.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you checkin it out! It is really interesting to see velocity/energy at a distance especially with handguns. Makes you realize how good rifles actually are.

[@FL-Kaiman]

I carried a glock42 380 with liberty civil defense a lot in my gym shorts this past summer since southern florida is hotter than the devils gooch ☀️

[@bobborlog1677]

It's amazing what a difference 2mm in case length makes isn't it. This is why I got a g43 to up the power from my g42

[@djangofreeman9382]

Even in 9mm the difference between a hot +P or +P+ and standard pressure can sometimes be significant

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yes indeed.

[@jackbauer9077]

Could we see some PPK in .380 ammo tests down the road. “Targets, tools & targets” I know it won’t make any difference but you never know,in one of the last 2 bond movie I seen he took down a helicopter 🚁 with his PPK. Could totally blow up your gel block

[@ToolsandTargets]

😲😲😲 💥🚁💥

[@popinfresh3088]

Hey T&T, thanks for the review. Yeah, in my wife's 380, I just have her carry underwood hard cast 100gr. I wish she would jump up to 9mm but she doesn't want to. I can't think of any really good 380 hollow point. At least consistently good.

[@ToolsandTargets]

That hard cast will do the trick.😎👍

[@adventurfly879]

Good 380 is super hard to find. Glad you do it for us

[@MrZachxd]

Honestly. I'm not surprised. I don't own a .380 and this is one of the biggest reasons. Great video!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you again, my friend!😎👊

[@elvispresley2328]

i love your channel brother. I like the 380 round as long as its in a larger gun so you can get a good grip on it

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, my friend!😎👊

[@arby2348]

Don't think I'll be replacing my Xtreme Penetrators with these. Revealing test. Thanks.

[@steelpunisher6944]

And the mystery continues…… is there a hollow point 380 made that expands and penetrates far enough for me. Nope! I’d stick with flat point fmj or defenders if I carried.380. Thanks for another great test 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Once you add the cloth, they fall like dominoes.😆

[@OceanKing6725]

Federal Hydrashok Deep is from what I've seen, the only 380 JHP worth carrying.

[@Gmar69]

The HST ammo expands really well too.

[@JJ_SDWR]

When I carry my Bersa 380 is 6 rounds of Underwood +P XTPs then 3 Underwood hard cast +P FMJs.

[@chretired]

W😳W, what a disappointment this ammo turned out to be. I think everyone knew from the title we were in for a big disappointment. I've never seen a 380 come closer to even a 9mm FMJ. For the price I wouldn't go near this junk if I had a 380. Thanks for saving people some of their hard-earned greenbacks. Have a good weekend Tools. Be vigilant and always be safe my friend.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. You too!😎👊

[@alejandrovargas7592]

Well, ..that was disappointing that it didn't expand from the 4" barrel.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Was rooting for it to work, but another 380 hollow point failure. The LCP definitely did better than the EZ in the jelly. I’ll take ball and hope for a tumble or two. Thanks for the test Tools!

[@pistolgrip44mag]

That is exactly what I would expect from "Winchester."

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@lazygamer9725]

Not great ammo but they were smart enough when they saw a gun they wanted to get production on... same for Remington fn ect....

[@GatorsRock01]

Disappointing about the lack of expansion but still the Winchester .380 will make holes when you need it to...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@davidhogden9804]

I have a Ruger security 380. Hornady American gunner work great!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@freddiemansky7102]

Wow real eye opener!! Thanks great job. EZ my favorite gun.

[@tonycolca2241]

Thak you so much for your tests would you please test if you haven't done so already remington 88 grain hollow point. Remington in small calibers seem to be a little hotter than most.

[@bobgaylord8883]

The only round I've seen so far for the .380, I would consider carrying, is the Defiant Munitions one you test a while ago. I wish they'd sell them in packs of 20 rounds. 50 rounds is a little pricey.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I know they mentioned that they were considering that.

[@Bob-lq9ys]

Once again I will stay with 9mm, thanks for sharing

[@scottstewart5784]

Tools keeps reinforcing my decision that 9mm is my floor too. Once double stack nines existed .......

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@CeltKnight]

While there are a few .380 JHPs that seem to perform pretty well, it's frustrating to me to see so many manufacturers sticking to basically the same mid-20th century technology, charging premium rates for their product and giving sub-par results. I'm glad you and a few others do these tests. While I've always liked the .380 (I like smokin' hot brunettes, too and THAT has never helped me out in life, LOL) I have almost wholly gone back to .38 special +p as my usual compact carry option. That still takes some prudent ammo selection, but I seem to have a wider array of rounds that perform somewhat closer to as advertised. My two main .380s, a micro Kahr CW380 and a Beretta 84, still see a little carry time, but not as much a my .38 snubs and 9x19 or larger pistols.

[@PJ_Perry]

Basic title is spot on lol... another fine film in the ballistic data archive hahaha love this channel

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂 Thank you sir.😎👊

[@380master9]

The 380 HSC perform splendid

[@charlesmartel8023]

Try Fiocchi Hyperformance Defense 90gr XTP and Corbon 70gr and 90gr PowRBall in the 380. Cheers!

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍 Thanks tools. Bad ammo. Paying for hollow points and getting fmj performance.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@chrissewell1608]

I just hope these ammo companies watch your channel!

[@kfsrmn]

Try fluted ammo. If 380 expands it does not penetrate. If it doesn't expand it over penetrates in most cases. Too hard to find consistent ammo. Grandson carries Liberty Civil Defense in his. I got rid of my 380's a few years ago.

[@gunman11]

Well, that was disappointing 😞. I have my EZ loaded with Silvertips. But maybe the fmj flat point might be the way. Thanks for the work man. It is appreciated.

[@catfish38x24]

Thanx for another great video. That right there is why I won't carry a 380, and will only use federal hst in the handguns I have.

[@jarvismorrison9328]

I got 950.2 fps from my G25 on the Garmin Xero C1 Pro...

[@The177Hunter]

5:39 “BASIC TITLE” 😂 seriously tho, thank you for finally testing this

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@ToolsandTargets]

You know what's funny is some other people commented "basic title" but you're the only one who put a timestamp. I thought they were just joking about the actual video title and had no idea I screwed up in editing until now!🤣🤣🤣

[@jpbrown1963]

Fmj sounds like what I need

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@stevesmith756]

I use Apex xtreme defense ammo. Solid copper fluted bullets 65 gr. They cycle great in my LCP max. Have you tried a fluted solid copper bullet?

[@djangofreeman9382]

You give the best descriptive and most informative , entertaining video ballistics test. You’re definitely the best thing KZbin has seen by Far!!!….BTW The 9mm White box JHP is pretty good almost same as Winchester silver tip

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that! The 9MM did pretty good for the price.😎👍

[@AriePharmD]

Guess length really does matter.

[@geraldblackburn4883]

This is why I would like to set my own, in .380 and I think there are some 100gr, and get these loaded up hot, not +p but push the boundary a bit, but it does get expensive and if I can find a good load that may suffice.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely can get what you want with handloads.

[@jamesbell8496]

Immediate thumbs up

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@josephpacchetti5997]

You called It spot-on, when It comes to semi-autos, I wouldn't go any less than a 9mm, THX My Friend. 👍🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you, brother!

[@Gator69420]

I’m very curious how the 40sw white box does and Remington UMC

[@ElecticMonk]

I bought a couple boxes of Winchester white box hollowpoints a while ago, and I found a bullet that was seated shockingly way too far into the casing. I probably would have blown my gun up if I fired that round. I'll never buy WWB again of any kind.

[@waynebowman2315]

Excellent video and great information about the pocket pistol rounds not doing their job

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@rsbreeze]

Good test!

[@Lexicologist1971]

I don't usually carry a 380 but it is my tertiary carry gun. If it does well through the clothing, I may get some. I use a Walther PPKS when I'm carrying 380. Nope, not buying any of those! I'll stick with my hot Underwood Ammo 380s.

[@raybo34]

Another for the 380 wall of shame. I remember you testing the 9mm and I would run that. I have a bunch of 40 S&W white box HPs that I bought cheap a few years ago to run at the range. I bet it would do well also. If 380 was all I had I would either pay for the premium rounds that do expand or go with FMJs. Heck, 5 boxes of the premium stuff and you could buy a decent 9mm.

[@timrobinson6573]

Not just as good as 9mm but better than 10mm

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@andywilson8698]

Absolutely!!!

[@semichiganandy2127]

Thanks for the video. If PSA puts it on clearance, then it'll be worth buying........as practice ammo.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@scarifrougeone7225]

Total let down for hollow point ammo. That cloth packed in there tight. FMJ performance, good grief. Totally agree with you once again. Not worth paying the difference at all. Good test and commentary. By the way enjoyed watching the leaves fall in the background. 👍 Be safe. 🇺🇸🇺🇸⭐️⭐️

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I noticed the leaves when I was editing. They're gonna be gone fast this year it looks like.

[@scarifrougeone7225]

@@ToolsandTargets Love watching the leaves fall. My favorite time of the year. 👊

[@billdye3530]

Might be a good target round but not for the price. I'll stick with Underwood. Velocity was a little faster than expected. A 32 Long might do better 😉🙊🙈

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@davidlee8551]

Great test, thank you !

[@johngrunwell]

You nailed it again!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊

[@racecitypatriot66]

Another good test tools. I just can't get behind the 380 never liked them. I guess they'd be good for like a back up gun if someone had you down on the ground. Put it in their gut and let them have it. Have you or can you send one round in to bare gel or one layer of cloth? Just to see if they will expand?.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I'll try to remember to try one next time I do a batch of tests and let you know .

[@thatsmytwocents4372]

Thank you for the info, as always !!!

[@Dwayne7834]

Good test Tools.Thanks for sharing 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Wildwestwrangler]

T&T whoopin that jelly since .... Whenever he started whoopin things!!!

[@campsitez2355]

do the paul harrell "meat test" and see if anything is different

[@MrSumGuns]

I would not carry that stuff for my tool. Great video as always!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Tom-cp6yj]

How do the silvertips do so much better if they're basically the same bullet? Interesting..

[@ToolsandTargets]

They're made for Ware wolves!💥🐺💥

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

380 hollow points seem really dodgy overall, to the point I'd avoid the caliber entirely unless I was willing to spring on those pricey Extreme Defenders. Thanks for the test.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Very picky caliber.

[@adamannala5498]

@@ToolsandTargetswas that defiant munitions that sells the extreme defender expanding copper?

[@livincincy4498]

Thank you

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@choppermike3329]

Thanks for another great test. Like a lot of things we buy, we aren't getting what we pay for. This is important though.😎👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Sad, but true.