Just bolt it together!! Line hone disaster!!

[@kennethfeld6639]

I tell people all the time, my job is arguing about 0.001 to 0.002" and most people look at me like I am crazy but in the bearing world that much difference in clearance is GIGANTIC

[@andrewshuford]

100% Facts, can't make nobody understand that "new" doesn't mean perfect 👍

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Exactly!

[@RustyWells2]

It never is and the last 3 years it's gotten even worse!

[@andrewshuford]

@RustyWells2 Quality control is on smoke break Lol!!!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

@@andrewshuford they might be smoking while checking! 😆

[@jmc6940]

No such thing.

[@allxdup1909]

I'm right there with you Pete'... even though I'm in Australia lol. Same things happen here, people come to you wanting a race engine assembled, after god knows who machined it for god knows what purpose. If you give them what they ask for & it fails- YOU are deemed the biggest CAaNT. I never just assemble something, don't trust someone else with your reputation.

[@davidresar8256]

If I bring you a bunch of parts and I say make something out of this, I expect you to tell me hey, I found a couple of things wrong. People that don't let you be the professional you are, need to have a reality check! Because I'm bringing this stuff to you because I appreciate you and your knowledge are going to save me from having problems. Great video of the reality of building engines. Keep up the great work! You already saved someone from having a pile of junk!

[@thebegrsshow]

Pete you aren't kidding about the Dart blocks being "rough". Every one in the past few years, especially the Windsor blocks have been so far out, we've set them up in the Tobin Arp line bore to get them close before attempting to get to finish size on the hone.

[@aaronshelton84]

i respect your honest and purposeful approach: if work is leaving your shop, it's gotta be up to your standards. As a non-automotive machinist, I also really like seeing all the specialized cutters/grinders/hones/fixtures used in engine building!

[@abitoffcenter383]

Simply as a mechanic, I refuse to work on stuff others have started. The moment I see parts in the seat or hear "Well it's been at so-n-so's shop and they're unable or unwilling to finish the job." or whatever, pick your excuse, everything stops. No more conversation or roll it right back out the shop. I could care less about the money. Not because I don't need it. No, I don't need all the headache and grief that comes with the job. Normally, there's a good reason the other shop couldn't or wouldn't finish the job, and normally it's not the "job" that's the problem. Normally it's the customer in a situation such as that. But since I'm the boss, I have that "luxury". But on the other hand, I don't make anyone take that job either.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

It's good that Dart leave as much metal as possible there for good shops to be able to work with, so the first life cycle of the engine can have better-then-factory tollerances and longer lifespan under hard use. Align Boring seems to be skipped by many people, even rebuilding a stock passenger vehicle engine can benefit from it, in reduced friction losses of the crank, and reduced vibration from crank flex, freeing up power that would otherwise be lost as heat. It's one of those things that make engines last longer and use less fuel at cruise, there is never any downside to having it correctly done. It's as essential as an acurate dynamic balance of the crank assembly if you want to spin a motor to high RPM's.

[@terryenyart5838]

Truly professional way to operate. I would never assemble anything without knowing all vital measurements, nor would anyone who understands engines. You saved yourself & your client a lot of $ & headaches.

[@Shademax4273]

Same thing with flywheels and clutches. Even if its brand new you better be measuring to verify step height is correct.

[@RogerWilco486]

I thought my stomach was growling, theres a funky gurgling sound way down in fhe audio

[@yamarider6199]

appreciate the engine builders and machinist with your mentality.

[@embratucker3189]

Great content as usual. Glad to see you got James gettin' stuff done

[@havebenthere]

i hear you! Deal with crap like that all the time. One can spend a lot of time checking somebody else's work then have to fix it too. I stopped building engines a few years ago, because always dealing with junk that the customer thinks is great. Bring in a already been run jewel that's everything but and want me to put it together for a small fee. Thanks for pointing out the crap we all deal with!

[@bassettraceengines]

I feel your pain. Thanks for sharing !!!

[@normanapana435]

It’s always good to check.

[@every-istand-ophobe6320]

Appreciate the upload!! Always nice to watch guys that take pride in their work!

[@--_DJ_--]

Sometimes saying no is the right thing to do, even if it pisses the customer off. I'll never forget telling the bigwig friend of my boss (owner of the company I work for) that I wouldn't put his bald summer tires on his fancy Infinity G35. I don't think he was used to people telling him no, especially an 18 year old kid. (at the time) He tried hard to get me to do it, but that was just a waste of his and my time. He left with his snows on, having a bit fit on the way out the door.

[@Calvin-xp4qp]

Labor aside, thinking wear on machines and materials required to do the job is costly. Always enjoy your vids, thank you!

[@hotrodporsche996]

Always enjoy the videos! Great information and enjoy watching the machines do what they do.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Great Video like usual... To make power and live it all starts with Machine Work! Like building a house with a crooked foundation doesn't work....

[@DSRE535]

I build Pontiac engines and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to fix the main line and the cam tunnel, decks all over the place from other machine shops I absolutely refuse to build anything that I don’t have control of! So I totally get where you’re coming from!

[@frankensteincreations4740]

Awesome 👍 Exactly how I operate my business. You want it done right, or take it somewhere else. There’s only one way to do anything. The right way. The way it’s going to last and hold up.

[@JHcustoms937]

Hell yeah. Good info. People need to know this. So many think you buy a new block and hone it to your pistons and it's ready to fly together and it's not. Clearance is everything in this stuff. Love the content. Keep it Rollin!!

[@philiphunsucker1872]

Good stuff Pete. This is what people need to hear. Hard part is will they listen and understand the need and importance of clearances. Thanks for the video. 👍

[@stevemoores510]

I’d be curious to know how the engine owner reacted when you told them about how much work would be required to make this engine right??

[@DaveMcLain]

Your video was very good. The line hone can fix a lot of weird stuff. A year or so ago I had a guy bring in a 6.0 Chevy block. He was building a stroker with a 4 inch stroke crank. His clearances were right at .002 on all of the mains yet the crank would lock up. I trimmed the caps, line honed it, cleaned it and checked it, .002 all positions. Torqued it up and the crank turned perfectly. This block was just a little bit wacky and out of alignment. The line hone corrected the problem.

[@brianholcomb6499]

& people wonder why their brand new engines blow up in no time! Never mind their wrong break in! Starting a new engine with no timing light on it & then letting it idle 🙄🙄🙄🙄! We’ve heard about a million times that the parts said ready to go, right out of the box! If that isn’t the biggest line of bullshit I’ve heard! Especially from the big parts houses 🙄🙄🙄🙄! Nice job, as usual Mr Pete!

[@justinsalmon5707]

Local shop line honed my buddies 302 block 10 thou too big! Can't trust my locals at all.

[@user-mo8tm4jw2l]

It soothes my soul to see someone putting in this type of effort into their quality control. I used to work for a shop that built 4cyl for midget cars. We had some pretty big contracts. With honing mains and the cam towers we went as far as line honing vertically to prevent flex as our particular hone when run on a horizontal plane liked to oval out the last couple mains. I saw people get fired over using an impact when they should have used a speed handle. Everything had to be done just so. If you didn’t do it the way they KNEW worked. Every time. Without fail. You would receive a talking to and if that didn’t shape ya up you got let go. It was one of the most intense but enjoyable jobs I’ve ever had. Aircraft levels of attention to detail. Thanks for not only sharing quality content but being one of the few willing to do a quality job because your name is on it.

[@402YEEP]

Still best intro song.

[@ivisonr]

I agree completely. in all aspects.

[@cowleysmobilewelding]

Love the intro music. Has a serious CKY vibe

[@TechMarcB]

I picked my block up from the machine shop, went to start putting it together and my main clearances were whack. I reached out to the guy and told him the mains had taper. He picked the block back up to fix the issue, and found that it was his dial bore indicator that was damaged and was entirely too repeatable. Dodged a bullet there. Do you have any advice for someone looking to upstart an engine machine shop?

[@GearlessChris]

Since the mains were off that much, are you going to deck the block and hone the cylinders too?

[@ALLGODSDIE]

I CAN'T WAIT!

[@dtw322]

Pete, the man, getting it done! You got mad skills! Thanks for the video!

[@stannelson2582]

True meaning of polishing a turd! Well polished! ✨

[@NZMOPAR]

I hear you Pete I get it all the time . its rust free car just need blocked back and painted .

[@RATTL3R186]

Good stuff brother as always.

[@Carl_Jr]

How much does line honing move the crank up, closer to the deck and camshaft?

[@Mac-td7lt]

Pete "the man", going on sick week with Cleetus. Gonna be great content.

[@TennTitans]

Always always have to finish machining a brand new block. They are never right or even close to perfect. They don’t have the time for that nor are they worried about it.

[@roostingthe6520]

Martin's wheel!

[@tptrsn]

Thanks Pete! I want to see the next video where you sort out all of the bearings to get the main clearances you want it to have. :)

[@RJ-vg3yu]

Great video Pete!

[@twinturbocoyoteftw]

Real Good at Doin Stuff got it right.

[@Ridinfixinman]

With respect to the bore and hone job and your statement about honing it again no matter, so that you know it will seal - if you use a profilometer (misspelled?) to check the finish, then it should seal, as long as long as the diameter is right, correct? It sould save you time and the customer money.

[@JohnW1711stock]

Cheap ain't good, and good ain't cheap.

[@jackwillson8099]

You will get a better finish & that diamond stone will, last long using a spray bottle with water ,for your sunnen cap grinder

[@robertpierce1981]

anxious to see pete behind the wheel for Sick Week!!

[@v4yt126]

Superb quality

[@EngleRacing]

Good catch.

[@jameswhite2403]

Great video boss man

[@BenjySparky]

Pete, you rock! Love the channel and content. Peace

[@simpleman2004]

I like videos like this, stuff I like to see, but will never see it in person.

[@benstrait333]

I don't get it. Why would you have one machine shop do the machining and take it to another one for assembly?

[@bigblockjess617]

Man I hate people who do shitty work. If ypur going g to do it, do it right! THE FIRST TIME!!! BTW. Love the machining videos. You and steve morris are the best!

[@claymillican25]

👏👏

[@paulpence8895]

Hell Yeah Brother!!! Cant wait for Sick Week!!!

[@jamesread11]

And if someone says they will throw it together for you without checking those tolerances the. You don’t want them building you a motor

[@dwaynesullivan-qo2iz]

You hit the nail on the head. You get what you don't pay for

[@robholmes2129]

It is the assemblers job to verify clearances because you are the final person to touch it and will be blamed for any failure that happens

[@JohnRoberts71]

Great content thanks for sharing

[@anthonylopes8929]

Job insurance is been real good at doing stuff

[@Thumper68]

Do it right or don’t do it at all!

[@cliffbeckwith4019]

One thing I have learned is trust but always verify...

[@minibikemadman]

but once cry once..i bet you get a lot of this pete.."its good ri go just slap it together" loll

[@rickshults2697]

Are you setup to do 2jz machine work?

[@mikemaccracken3112]

Thanks for the video Pete. The shop I used for 40 years had no problem telling people to take their junk somewhere else😂. The owner was a seven time NHRA world record holder in A/Stock and he was very proud of his work. When your name is on it you better make sure it is right or you might not be able to keep the doors open.

[@johnsargeant2041]

Man wish you were closer to me..

[@anotherbluenova6358]

I have a new Dart SHP 400 sbc block I need finished. Not one of the shops I called mentioned that they need to check the line hone. Looks like I need to get them to do so. What else should be done to a new block? Besides the obvious bore/hone and square the deck.

[@kennethfeld6639]

pretend you got it from a junk yard - new is new - probably don't have to magnaflux, but assume every line is crooked and every surface makes ruffles look like a flat chip.

[@given0fox968]

Good Stuff 👍👊🇺🇸🤘

[@robertpierce1981]

just like i like my phillips screws oval drive

[@DonToomay]

No ice cream 🍦 for this guy.

[@rpturbo]

First i don't understand why someone would "trust" a shop to have them do machine work, but then pull it and expect someone else to "assemble" it. Ive been building my own for 25+ years, and i check every single thing, just like you. Seen too many shady shops, and i didn't use to be able to afford someone like you thats trustworthy. Thanks for showing the non-sense that is out there!

[@taptoretry7335]

Customer probably bought a bare block trying to cut corners have you guys just build it lol

[@brockallentaylor]

I’ve dealt with a few dozen machine shops over the years and never gotten anything that out of whack!

[@waynemarshall5194]

That is one heck of a turd reamer you have there sir

[@aslacker]

Wait. You're telling me a brand new block is not machined and ready from Dart?

[@FixItStupid]

Yes Have The Same @ 3 Shop Before Done Right

[@Jmh24081987]

Hello.

[@HappyHarryHardon]

I bring my engine shop an empty block and all the bottom end. I can do my heads now so they do their magic and I take it home and assemble it. I trust them and they trust that I know what I’m doing. I’m never n a hurry and I don’t ask how much it’s going to be because whatever it is it’s worth it.

[@Final_Boss_Racing]

So basically before you can even behind your work you have to fix some idiots work from before gotta love engine work lol

[@hughobrien4139]

Professional Nit Picking Services. It has to be done. No if ands or buts.

[@edpetrocelli2633]

I tell people that bring in other guys machine work or want to supply their own parts to go down to the super-market buy a half LB. of hamburger, take it to McDonalds and have them cook it for you , see what they say about it.

[@136092195]

Pete If they would have brought to Harrell Engine In the First Place No Problem The Crazy Old Man In The Yucatan keep up the Dame good Work son

[@chief3378]

Hey wait a minute did I hear you say you'll have a video out in a few days can I hold you to that

[@deegan727]

Sounds like someone thought the cheat code to engine building was buying an unfinished aftermarket block instead of paying a shop to machine an old one. Wrong!😂 they both need need work, but one cost more before the machining.

[@discipleoftheword1785]

Customers often don’t want to admit to that they are calling on you to save them from themselves. I used to work on CNC equipment and most of the time I fix the root problem and then what they did. Hard head makes a slim wallet.

[@smokeymcbongwater3561]

Awsame sauce

[@mikefoley7561]

You’re definitely married to it. Your names on that engine for the rest of its life once it leaves the shop

[@cameron878]

I own a trans shank shop and we don't let people "bring their own spaghetti" for this exact reason. I know that's probably a decent percentage of your customers though and you'd be out of business if you turned all those customers down. Too big of a risk for us though.

[@allenwaddle5130]

Damn I can tell at the start of your video that them mains are oval'ed bad

[@allenwaddle5130]

Unless it's the camera messing with me

[@ralph100pct]

My Appreciation,Your handz on'°% The love u have for procedure, and Pride showz your Supporterz,faith In combustible, 2 be loving time in understanding the importance. '°°%,Ralph

[@drcolster]

I think when Dick Maskin sold Dart, it has all gone downhill, quicker,rougher so they can make more money...???

[@gailtaylor1636]

Lost me with the stupid intro.

[@realgoodatdoinstuff900]

Good luck with your rap music.

[@AR-ed3xw]

You probably ain't real good at doing stuff anyway, Gail!

[@gailtaylor1636]

@@AR-ed3xw Faked my way thru nearly 50 years as ASE Master & Ford DIESEL CERTIFIED. Just hate these long intros. It's my choice not to watch.

[@AR-ed3xw]

@gailtaylor1636 it is your choice not to watch, but you have bad taste! I haven't heard anyone brag about ASE since late 90's early 2000's, so that was an awesome memory, thanks!

[@travisleopard8250]

If you show up to my shop and say( well can’t you just) I’m done you can hit the road