Justice League Should've Been the Next Arkham Game

[@jakedizzle]

Crazy that Lex loves wonder woman so much when the main reason he hates Superman is because he’s not human.

[@martianastronaut4917]

Right ? Lex Luthor of all people, praising a metahuman is bizarre

[@Paradox-es3bl]

He often hates Clark more out of jealousy. Clark got Lana, Lous, etc. and sometimes is the reason Lex goes bald. He's everything Lex wants to be. The savior of Earth and beloved. I don't think he's ever truly racist nor xenophobic or whatever... he just uses that as a weapon. "He's an alien, you can't trust him like you could a fellow human!"

[@JKurayami]

@@Paradox-es3bl It's a combination. Jealousy plus Xenophobic.

[@LockerHider]

Well Wonder Woman is from Earth though. Her powers are mystical and he probably approves more of that than Superman's overpowered alien powers. Still very out of character for Lex.

[@ultimateslinger9857]

Well, he wasn’t simping for one of them. That’s the main reason

[@lanehappel4291]

It should have been a Superman game, and at the end of the game, Clark seeks out bruce to start the justice league.

[@kieranadamson3224]

That would've genuinely been fantastic. Imagine a quest line where we as Superman have to track down this Bruce Wayne guy since we've got evidence the demon bat is definitely him and we have to convince him to come just a little bit more into the light again. Hell, perhaps this is pushing it but we could've specifically had a story beat where we convince the world the reason why Batman was revealed to be Bruce Wayne was a trick by Batman. He sent the brave mister Wayne in while he waited in the wings just in case things went sour. Then they blew up Wayne manor so Batman could continue his work and Bruce Wayne could get some peace and avoid the paparazzi.

[@e.n.dragneel4534]

Ikr he has suck a good amount of villains too that could be enough to make 2 or 3 games like zod, darkseid, doomsday, lex, bizzaro

[@roderick8167]

Bruh for real it bothered me that there we're only 5 Justice League members in this game like where the hell is Aquaman and Martian Manhunter, would it had killed them to add two more members 😂🤦

[@theinvictussamaritan4778]

It would’ve taken them an extra 5 years to develop the game

[@luckymark571]

Nah i like that it was just 5, the five core characters imo

[@the_reasonable_one5554]

Jon is such a good character I would’ve liked to see him too

[@jakedizzle]

Most likely saving them for future seasons of DLC.

[@roderick8167]

@@luckymark571 ok that's fair

[@plsdontbeahero]

Hearing Superman say “We’re in this together gang” took a couple decades off my life. The writers did NOT know how to write these heroes

[@summersheild4140]

What’s wrong with that line? Did I miss something?

[@zaccatacc]

​@@summersheild4140 he's superman, not Freddy from scooby doo

[@Mrseal12767]

I don’t think Superman would ever call the league “gang”

[@plsdontbeahero]

@@zaccatacc thank you

[@LorenzoC2314]

@@Mrseal127672024 Superman would 😂

[@wrench175]

Bro you know what would've been a great game A BATMAN BEYOND GAME

[@ccelite3782]

That would've been the proper send off for Kevin Conroy. Have a game set 40 years in Gotham's Future. Give us Terry. THEN, after that, give us a Justice League game that takes place about a year after Arkham Knight. Have Nightwint take Batman's place on the League, while Batman is still "Nightmare Batman"

[@MrHastygamer]

@@ccelite3782They didn’t know Conroy would pass though so it’s unfair to use that against them.

[@TheGameianDark]

​@@MrHastygamer But demand for Batman Beyond game isn't anything new! So they could have predicted what people would and wouldn't like Kevin in

[@davidmount2483]

I would have loved a batman beyond game that's my favorite version of Batman and it would also have been a proper send off to Arkham Batman

[@distinguishedallureproduct879]

Hell I would of even taken a Batman Beyond Kills the Justice League type game, like in this city...or even in Neo Gotham where Brainiac has taken over everything and Terry (or Damiem or whoever) was the last defense to stop Brainiac and The freaking Justice League INCLUDING the got damn Arkham Batman, someone who taught Terry everything he knows

[@ericfrancisco6615]

Still can't believe they made Superman an idiot in this game. I'm sure contrarians are just going to say this is an Elseworld this/that, so Superman is still inexperienced or some nonsense.

[@l1jay0404]

The entire arkham series is an elseworld story

[@ericfrancisco6615]

@@l1jay0404 let me elaborate more. Regardless of what multiverse Superman comes from, he's still that naive farm boy from Smallville and boy scout of the DC-verse, but he can't be THAT naive. And from what was implied from the cutscenes and audio logs, the League has established themselves in a short amount of time, but a good chunk of time enough to NOT make amateur mistakes like trusting a Kryptonian super A.I. with a discount Zod mindset floating around with a skull shaped space fortress.

[@l1jay0404]

I understand what you're saying, but, to be fair, rocksteady gave supes way less changes to the narrative than say the riddler, red hood, or even the joker

[@BlaxkSun]

Or the fact that he’s more then likely a clone… or did you just miss that detail

[@ericfrancisco6615]

@@BlaxkSun oh I didn't miss that either. That in itself is an obvious contrivance to justify that battle pass for the lazy reskinned boss fights. Just because of the cryptic message left behind by Calendar Man of "He will return" is them grasping desperately to keep afloat, assuming this game survives long enough to make it to it's first season. They had nine, NINE years to work on this game that no one wanted. And this is the best they've come up with. Stop giving these sad poseurs that is the current Rocksteady any credit. They should've known better that trying to rope in the Arkhamverse fans that enjoyed and loved the previous games deserved a proper follow up. And I know blame also lies in executive interference by the DC and WB higher ups for greenlighting this money burning travesty.

[@Stargold-w9m]

A LEGO game did better with a villain game than this

[@lakshaykochhar6799]

People at LEGO company knows who to hire artists and not propagandists or extremists.

[@This-is-a-commentt]

Lego dc supervillains: Somehow a better suicide squad game than the suicide squad game

[@Morbius-Tension]

I’m still waiting on a DC version of Marvels Ultimate Alliance I seriously don’t get why they haven’t done this last games we had like that were teen titans and young justice legacy

[@Cyberfan2167]

​@@Morbius-Tension wasn't lego batman 3 kindve like a lego justice league game? Just from batmans perspective ,I swear I've been waiting for a new lego batman game for so long

[@Morbius-Tension]

@@Cyberfan2167 yea your right it was titled beyond Gotham we need another for sure cuz I’m pretty sure that game came out in 2015

[@synraheim17]

Knew it was wraps once Superman called the League “gang” 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@kntgaf]

after what happened in apokolips war the JL need to STOP taking advice from superman 🤣🤣

[@Zhello79]

​@@kntgaf well to be fair, they didn't know Darkseid was spying on them through Cyborg. If it wasn't for that, Darkseid would not have known about the plan.

[@hurricane7727]

​@@Zhello79They were Still Massively Outnumbered

[@GrifterTheBoyIdiot]

​@@hurricane7727 agreed them Paradooms mauled them. They were on business when they killed Aquaman , Hawkman and lantern

[@hurricane7727]

@@GrifterTheBoyIdiot Even if they were Upgraded Parademons the jl would still lose. All Darkseid army is on Apokolips so they would be stuck there

[@cosmicreader1312]

It’s funny how Superman says he didn’t choose how he got to earth, which is true, but brainiac and adult he clearly did.

[@joshgonzalez9362]

exactly what i thought ong

[@DavidM_10]

There were lots of great options for expanding the Arkham-verse -- including a well-made Suicide Squad game that didn't involve killing the freaking Justice League and Batman.

[@rogueknight77]

They shouldn’t even be used on that sort of scale in my opinion. I prefer more covert government missions and infiltrations for informations for waller and stuff like that, not killing the justice league.

[@SamuraiWithOneEye]

I agree with this 100%. You need to have a Justice League game before you kill them off

[@Naruku2121]

Yeah, you could atleast care about the Arkham verse version of these characters similar to Batman if you actually established them first.

[@mike.tyson...]

Don't even kill them off after if they make justice league game make a batman beyond game would have been better

[@captainuseless2120]

I know, and playing as the different members of the JL would be so much more interesting than the Frikken suicide squad. Not to mention a lot more distinct in how each character plays.

[@Morbius-Tension]

I’m still waiting on a DC version of Marvels Ultimate Alliance I seriously don’t get why they haven’t done this last games we had like that were teen titans and young justice legacy

[@TippedScale]

make a line of wonder woman games or something, or a line of flash games

[@kingcyrusthegreat3887]

What's worst is that Brainaic is SUPERMANS VILLAIN he is supermans arch enemy besides Lex Luthor ( DC has to stop stealing his villains ) and he got duped into taking the League to the ship how narratively convenient.

[@ihateanatomy2169]

It doesn’t help that the general audience truly doesn’t know Superman as a character or just clowns him, so making act like a stupid bafoon and an incompetent leader makes him look worse

[@dg9444]

Most JL villains are the individual characters villains right? Like the legion of doom members

[@idawg7332]

Brainiac in particular is a bad superman enemy to use for a task force x game because he's one of the most dangerous villains in dc. He's the kind of character that could be used in the movies the way marvel did with thanos building up a big villain over years.

[@GrifterTheBoyIdiot]

​@@idawg7332 thata exactly why Batman teamed up with Clarke in Injustice 2

[@painvillegaming4119]

@@dg9444yeah that how much a threat brainiac is He's a planetary extinction event That even Superman at his best days will struggle to stop

[@wesleysmith9959]

Fire the whole games writing team

[@EchoDoctrine]

Fire Sweet Baby Inc

[@crawlingboy]

Destroy sweet baby inc​@@EchoDoctrine

[@PaRadaRada]

@@EchoDoctrineThe game and story was finished a year before them joining

[@rushpatriot2866]

​@@PaRadaRadadoesn't matter they made it worse sweet baby just pushed it along

[@nicholasrodinos4701]

7:52 Lex Luthor's definition of toxic masculinity is so stupid, toxic masculinity isn't 'men bad' but that traits like being overly competitive, suppression of emotions other than rage or lust, recklessness, and other traits. A world without men, could still have toxic masculinity, just not the same way. And toxic femininity also exists as well, granted it's nowhere near as obvious.

[@Alf-gm7tf]

That’s got sweet baby inc written all over it

[@NaimChowdhury-cj4kk]

@@Alf-gm7tfIndeed

[@KhalilMurray-ei1rd]

Or teen Titans versus Justice League but instead of killing them you save them like Nightwing having a epic fight with batman or Starfire and Wonder woman versus Superman

[@Ghost-ql3hl]

Start of the game: nightwing is recruiting Donna Troy, Wally west, Kyle Rainer, and either superboy or supergirl

[@karmaguide5429]

This would’ve been epic

[@shadowhound5113]

Dude so much yes. I wish I could like this 100 times.

[@shadowhound5113]

Dude so much yes. I wish I could like this 100 times.

[@KhalilMurray-ei1rd]

@@karmaguide5429 yeah

[@sonicjaxon8107]

Brooo the fact that we don’t even get to play as the heroes we been wanting to playing in the ARKHAM VERSE, no we kill them instead, this is just the worse turnaround. No way you can just slap the Arkham verse with this game

[@Wooshey_Wooj]

Completely agree. Also, it does feel weird that it feels like they are missing games in between. They just throw away lines in the museum. At least in the Avengers, they show everything that happened in the parade. Nope. I legitimately feel bad for the people who paid the $70 for this. Because Arkham fans don’t deserve this. If I got it and pre-ordered it. I would try to get my bag and return this shit. Digital or not. This game is completely unacceptable.

[@dylanperin487]

even if the justice league were clones, wonderwoman and the bat family were still killed off and are still going to be dead

[@Herowebcomics]

Or at the very least Wonder woman is dead and Tim lost an eye or something!😢

[@summersheild4140]

Wonder Woman had a good death, and there is nothing to suggest that the bat-family is dead.

[@PaRadaRada]

Seems like only Tim got hurt. Oracle wasn’t found by Brainiac Batman, Nightwing had no signs of entry in the batcave, Jason is god knows where (regular Batman doesn’t even know where he is), and Diana is basically magic clay molded by Zeus so she’ll probably be brought back.

[@rushpatriot2866]

Well the end of the Arkham verse was Arkham Knight there's no coming back rocksteady needs to die

[@nikodeherrera8274]

​@@PaRadaRada so rocksteady basically is too afraid to deliver on the title of the game, and also on top of that delivered a game that they knew for a fact everybody was not going to like it and that nobody was asking for right

[@928studiosinc06]

My idea on how this could've worked is as follows: Batman asks the Suicide Squad for help, because he's not under mind control since HE DOESN'T HAVE POWERS.

[@JJ-os9hr]

what do you mean? civilians were also put under mind control and they didn’t have powers

[@The_Governor81]

Batman Beyond could’ve work so dam good you could’ve introduced Terry McGinnis & had Bruce as a more of a side/background character.

[@TheGameianDark]

Imagine that! Conroy's Batman is guiding us players on comms throughout the game.. That itself is a selling point for 100s of replayability of that game

[@The_Governor81]

@@TheGameianDark Exactly same

[@Mr.PR2000]

@@TheGameianDarkFacts! They could’ve even given him a proper send off as old Bruce too!

[@TippedScale]

TERRY MCGINNIS WOULD'VE GONE SO HARD HOLY SHIT

[@LuisSanchez-by7mh]

I think a Batman Beyond, Teen Titans, or a Green Arrow game would’ve been cool. Maybe an epilogue sequel to Arkham Knight called Arkham Legacy. I imagine Arkham Legacy as an open world just like Arkham Knight but with a more expanded Gotham and maybe even introduce Blüdhaven into the map. The main characters are Nightwing, Robin, and Red Hood. The story will be inspired by Batman Battle For The Cowl. Maybe introduce Damien Wayne or Stephanie Brown into the story. You can switch between characters like you do in GTA V. Each of them have their own unique missions, abilities, and gadgets. There’s even team up missions too. There’s some boss fights like Bane, Clayface, Control Freak, Hush, Dollmaker, Copperhead, the main villain is Lady Shiva or maybe Designer.

[@The.Usurper]

I dont want Rocksteady making this game no more. Give the rights to the Justice League to HundredStars; the new studio started by both Rocksteady co-founders and over 100 veteran ex-Rocksteady employees.

[@orlandojosemoraamaya363]

That sadly won’t happen cause they don want super hero games

[@whodisrt]

I like how king shark gives respective dialogue all the Time ☠️

[@painvillegaming4119]

The only enjoyable character honestly

[@peachstar5789]

The closest thing we’ll ever get to a Justice League game is Lego Batman

[@affectivechief1630]

They could’ve started the game with an established team with Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern. Had Brainiac invade with villains under mind control, Justice League defeats villains, Brainiac can discover the Bat Computer which Batman kept files on how to defeat the League which forces Bruce to come out of hiding to help take down the mind controlled league with the help of the Bat Family and Batman can make a deal with Waller to use the villains already defeated by the League which Waller would’ve made into the suicide squad when she learned that the League was mind controlled so that they can have a huge roster with the Justice League, Bat Family and Suicide Squad to defeat Brainiac.

[@affectivechief1630]

Edit: Probably sounds like insane rambling cause I’m stoned but oh well.

[@natto4now]

All you needed to do is have batman sacrifice himself saving either the world or fuck it even him dying saving harley which would show how even if it's his enemy's he dosnt want them dead

[@brewmaster2912]

How about just let Batman live?

[@natto4now]

​@@brewmaster2912yeah that too

[@Ghost-ql3hl]

@@brewmaster2912yeah I’m with you. I’m not interested in seeing my superheroes die

[@TevyaSmolka]

I've been saying a very long time we should've gotten at least a superman game or a justice league game under og rocksteady because that would've been fantastic and personally for me would've been a great continuation of the arkhamverse, and if it meant this was the end of arkhamverse batman story with the unfortunate death of Kevin Conroy coming out of nowhere and he had to sacrifice himself to save the league to honor his best friends and family like tim drake robin nightwing and oracle I would've been fine with that because that would mean arkham batman would get a great sendoff and we can hear Kevin Conroy batman one more time before his passing at least in my opinion.

[@gaminggoof1542]

I REALLY wanted an Arkham styled Superman game. Like how the Arkham games redeemed Batman in games it could’ve been an antithesis of Superman 64. Facing off against Superman’s rogues with Luthor and his T Rex robots and such. Braniac prolly as a major villain too without the mind control shit or how about Darlseid?

[@dynaguy3]

Writers need to stop making Superman stupid. Ray Palmer himself said Superman and Batman fill the need for geniuses on the League. Clark is not a naive Boy Scout who makes dumb decisions

[@matthewsano6006]

I think it should have been a Superman game

[@rushpatriot2866]

It was originally intended to be a Superman game bro. That's why metropolis is the most well designed part of the game. Then WB came in with all their sexism and racism and turned it into suicide squad. That way they can be woke and disrespectful to the IP

[@robertjv]

There's no redemption game for this trash of a game. Kevin passed away already, no one can ever replace Kevin as Batman

[@PeanutButterBro]

Thanks!

[@MEnterprises01]

🙏🏾

[@SonKosen]

Lets hope they just put this game in an alternate timeline and just make a superman game in the arkhamvers

[@orlandojosemoraamaya363]

Keep dreaming

[@NaimChowdhury-cj4kk]

@@orlandojosemoraamaya363Hey, a man can dream

[@orlandojosemoraamaya363]

@@NaimChowdhury-cj4kk true, but as long as Rocksteady says it's canon, it's canon and We can't do jack

[@soniczeromkx]

Superman has so much power yet post asylum to city bane has more common sense than he does

[@marquisecurtis6427]

What would've been great is if we got a game based on when the Suicide Squad had to break into Arkham and Batman figures it out

[@Demigah]

It's dope to see your channel growing, my dude. I had to sub. Homie's entertaining 👊🏿

[@MEnterprises01]

Means a lot coming from you 🔥

[@TheGodOfWarhammer]

Yeah, I would have played Batman: Save the Justice League. Where Batman evades Brainiac and refused to accept that the only way to save the world was to kill the heroes.

[@lastsonoftennessee9895]

If you told me that Brainiac took advantage of Superman's good nature and optimism in order to deceive him, I'd believe you. But if you tell me that Superman just walked onto Brainiac's ship, with the entire JLA and no plan and no forethought, then I don't believe it. I realize this is just like background info, but couldn't they put a little more effort into making it believable? Say that Brainiac showed up and the JLA was initially distrustful but Brainiac put up a good front and slowly won their trust and then struck after their guard was down. That's still not great, but at least it's better.

[@Gamerlord17]

I could write a better suicide squad game right here right now if I wanted. Matter fact? Suicide Squad: DOOMED Main Squad members: Deathstroke, Metallo, Cheetah, Godspeed, Black Manta, Sinestro, Gizmo Synopsis: The suicide squad is tasked with eliminating the legion on Doom who've managed to defeat and capture the justice league after having allied with Brainiac. Gameplay: Imagine essentially a cross between Sly 2 Band of thieves, Arkham Knight and Spider-Man 2(PS5). You can switch between the characters by returning to your hideout/base and everyone has different missions to complete. Some are joint missions while others are solo.

[@ahkafkhan4512]

This sounds cool but bro none of the villains u wrote have ever been on the suicide squad before,it doesnt make sense that godspeed would be with the suicide squad

[@Gamerlord17]

@@ahkafkhan4512 actually it makes perfect sense August hart would join the squad given his power set and personality. He's not really evil and he's the ONLY one who could fight Barry and not immediately die

[@jaegerwhatifs4679]

@@Gamerlord17 Sure why not. Eobard is too powerful and too confusing for Waller, but Godspeed could probably be subdued and put onto the squad. Also a speedster is always a plus.

[@diogod2347]

90% of those mfs have never joined nor would probably ever join the Suicide Squad. But yeah no shit actual good gameplay would be better than live service.

[@Gamerlord17]

@@diogod2347 godspeed would join the squad purely because he wants to redeem himself, Deathstroke was literally offered a spot by waller in origins, sinistero could be worked in and Metallo is easily controlled.

[@DoTheBartMan100]

Would’ve loved to see a game like Ultimate Alliance where you could play as both heroes and villains

[@HELLO_KORO]

A Midnight suns type of game would've been fire

[@natto4now]

They should have just made that arkham beyond game they canceled for gotham knights Just make it so yeah the justice league exists out there but let's just focus on batman stuff

[@MaigenMaylight]

I hate how Superman sounds like a... peace-loving hippie 💀 That's the best way I can describe him. It feels like he was written by people who don't actually understand the character--like every character in this game.

[@TheHeroHaven]

Anyone else think Superman saying he knows the pain of losing a planet referring to krypton is just off cuz like you don’t know them lil bro you are an earth boi in every way but dna sure he feels bad for the Kryptonians but it’s not like with Kara where she grew up on Krypton I also don’t like how Flash refers to him as Kal instead of Clark

[@kingcyrusthegreat3887]

In all Superman media and his interaction with the JL Wonder Woman calls him Kal El they NEVER ever call him Kal El like that only Martian Manhunter and Diana call him by that name in the league everyone else calls him Clark period.

[@TheHeroHaven]

@@kingcyrusthegreat3887see you get it like did the writers just not do their research I mean at least they have Batman calling him Clark I guess but come on

[@kingtiger5040]

Perhaps this Superman actually grew up in Krypton like in Pre-Crisis.

[@TheHeroHaven]

@@kingtiger5040could be but with the major modern DC inspiration in Origins, Knight, and Suicide Squad I think it might just be bad writing but if they do say that’s the case it’s not as bad

[@JKurayami]

All Superman needs is enemies that are strong enough to hurt him, and a meter for saving people. The hardest levels would combine both of these elements. Give him free flight ,as well as super auto flight to distresses in his adventuring mode. So you can either use a little bit of finesse if it's a hostage situation, or land right in front of the bad guys if it's a shootout. Possibly even a public image meter, murdering human villains and such get big negatives.

[@3malinkies]

I remember when I was a kid, without a next-gen console, only able to read about the Arkham games or watch videos. After hearing about the first two Batman Arkham games, they announced a game called Injustice and All I had to go by were the images I saw. I was thinking, "wow, is this the game after Arkham City? They're going to give the treatment they gave to Batman, that I've heard so much about, to the rest of the Justice League?" Of course after that I found out it was a fighting game about an evil Superman killing the Justice League. 😢

[@BuddyFr]

Rocksteady just said they got one last Chance and they are making a Justice League Game Now.

[@BuddyFr]

Well If youre seeing this now, Update: They Fired 50% of their workers (now they are Only 15 People) And The Justice League Game Got Canceld, and now they are Making a Single Player Aigan

[@SumThingFawful]

Should have been the Batman Beyond game..... Kevin Conroy voices old Bruce and guides Terry to be the next batman and continue his legacy as batman and being a great send off to Kevin. Im still wondering who this game was even made for.

[@jackdobrowolsky]

My plan would have been to have 7 - 8 solo character games like Wonder Woman and Superman and at the end of each game Batman recruits the different members. Then there would be a justice league game where they would fight the suicide squad. After the fight we would have Braniac come and kidnap the members. The justice league would then be rescued thanks to the suicide squad and the game would end

[@PlayboiiProductions]

2:03 Justice Group is so wild😂😂😂

[@Bman32x]

I’m sorry… doesn’t Superman’s ship, fortress of solitude and krypton’s history already have files of the centuries of brainiac’s destruction and treachery? Who wrote this game & idea?

[@bampowbang6898]

Another problem with this game is besides Arkham Batman (who we've connected with over previous games), we don't know the rest of Justice League and what they've been through in the Arkhamverse. So when they die, it doesnt hit that hard.

[@jackcraig5507]

Bro a redeem the justice league game could make a grown man shed a tear

[@jonathanathor117]

14:08 I think it is possible to have a hypothethical justice league but you would neeed brand new members. Mainly the JLI or justice league international who were a an extension of the main JLA but del with threats outside america. The team included captain atom, fire, ice, guy gardner, booster gold blue beetle and martian manhunter.

[@redthewifeyhunter4034]

You know, forget how Batman was easily brainwashed. Green Lantern’s ring kinda confuses me. The ring should actively disallow Jon to be able to harm innocents. And I’m not talking about the Suicide Squad. I mean the citizens. The ring isn’t like the Red Lantern Corps which allows bloodshed. The Green Lantern ring should stop Jon from that. Probably even leave Jon if I remember correctly the way the ring works. they could have had John as an ally like Wonder Woman and die by Superman’s hands. I don’t want the JL to die but if you want the narrative that the JL is entirely dead, then having an unbrainwashed John fight against Brainiac is a better idea so it provides a bit more actuality to lore instead of the refusal to keep to the lore of a Lantern Ring. You cannot convince me that Batman DIDN’T have some sort of gadget that resisted Braniac’s mind control It would make a lot sense if he figured that Flash or Wonder Woman would be the ones to resist brain washing and entrust them with some sort of anti-mind control device and force it onto a mind controlled Bruce. Flash would have been too fast for Brainiac, WW has…uh… Then Bruce is able to think with WW and Flash on ways to stop the Justice League. Yeah they’re still pretty fresh but Batman would 99% likely already figured out everyone’s weakness, their identity, their past, relatives, and their blood type within a week. Maybe less. Imagine: Flash and WW get Bruce to come to his senses, they start with the weakest link to the JL that would pose the weakest threat and work up to Superman, likely the greatest threat. They would likely have to put aside their mindset of “We can’t hurt our friends. No matter how brainwashed.” To “We have to do what we can to help Clark resist the mind control.” If Waller’s Suicide Squad helps out the that’s fine. But the JL is most likely the only people to stop the JL. “To stop your enemy, you must first know them.” - some random guy. (Copy pasted entirely from a conversation in a different video)

[@ToonGrin]

Themyscira level of tech ranges greatly from writer to writer. I think the Snyderverse made it just like ancient Greece the island and under Morrison they took from the older age of comics where Themyscira is vastly similar to Wakanda. They got stuff like giant kangaroos as pets, ships that can fly, they have a device that produces a purple light that can heal ailments and wounds, it's a technological marvel it's why it's also called Paradise Island. I think the common misconception is it's all shields and swords because that's strangely what they push onto Diana without the more miraculous stuff from her home. If you are going for comparisons Diana really could be considered like their T'Chala in a lot of ways. Hailed from nobility, heir to the throne, hidden country and culture, advance tech unlike the world has bare witness. As for populating the island. Depending the story has amazons either don't age or get ill or if you are Brian Azzarello you go out, r*** men, murder the men, then give birth and if they are girls are loved and if they are male you either enslave them or kill them by hocking them off a cliff. If you are real lucky they are able to be traded to Hephaestus, in exchange for weapons, who adopts and loves the boys as his children and trains them to be artisans. comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/paradise-island-earth-1-2.png

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Wait so some dumbass legit wrote a version that turned the Amazons into the fuckin Night Sisters from Star Wars?

[@AA-ll9fg]

I think having a story where Batman is finally able to trust others, feeling accepted, and having a strong sense that he’s finally where he should be. To only then have him bring down those individuals that helped him out of the dark. Could have had each of the Justice league members say how they just felt bad for him, while they are under mind control would have been great. To only show them why he’s the greatest superhero among gods. To then only have Batman die at the end, and saying that he has no regrets.

[@MistahJay7]

Batman usually always has final say in strategic situations. The League would have never went to Braniacs Ship and Bruce would have just stayed behind and refused to go on board.

[@3456halo]

Screw it, I'm playing Justice League Heroes on the PS2, cuz in that game i actually get to fight Brainiac and Darkseid..

[@natoriousthehopeful2786]

Some things that I've come to learn since this game came out is that most of the team who worked on the original Arkham games have pretty much all but left Rocksteady: it's only the same company in name alone. Second is that there was a company named Sweet Baby Inc who helped write the game: I suggest looking them up

[@MrSpookersMcGeeThe1st]

Real talk: thank you for the reference to Batman Arkham Origins. That game is so fucking good and I am tired of it not getting recognition.

[@hurricane7727]

Agreed! You can also Play ad Bane and Joker in Online Mode Too

[@longmanfn]

Arkham knight already has the best ending

[@orlandojosemoraamaya363]

Hell no

[@Ligmaballin]

​@@orlandojosemoraamaya363Bruce finds a way to protect Gotham, Gordon becomes the mayor, Batman and the whole team are allied together with Jason Todd. That's a great idea

[@jamall7003]

Bro Arkham Knight Revolved around Batman resisting getting his mind taken over by his own infected Blood like cmon bro. Then 5 years later he succumbs to brain washing fr?

[@Trynopolis]

Okay, we have this game. But let me cook. Red Hood: Avenge The Justice League.

[@pelmeni_va]

When did they make Lex Luthor a virgin? 6:46

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

All we need is DC Ultimate Alliance, it's not hard.

[@DJCITIRADIO]

Great video. I 100% agree. A Justice League game done right would've been a dream come true. Imagine being in control of GLs power ring. Not only does this story suck, but all playable characters traversing around and mainly just shooting guns over 90% of the time gets super boring. Again, great video....WB needs to watch it

[@tylerlarson7263]

I 100% agree this should've been a Justice League video game. I call the game Justice League: Uprising with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern as the first five playable characters. Aquaman, Zatanna, and Martian Manhunter would be DLC characters. Basically this would be like the Avengers game but better as it won't be a service game. Lastly, Brainiac and the Legion of Doom (Lex Luthor, Killer Frost, Cheetah, Solomon Grundy, Sinestro, Clayface, and Starro) would be the main villains

[@Naruku2121]

Batman becoming mind controlled is kind of stupid from a narrative standpoint. Not because it's impossible or anything, but just the fact that it's literally a narrative retread. Like in Arkham Knight literally the prior game before this on, you had played as Batman stopping him from becoming mind controlled mass murdering menace. To in the the following game he becomes a mass murdering menace. A better hook would of been Batman continuned to function as the Ghost Bat/Demon Bat for x amount of years, gets wind of the Justice League became mindcontrolled and that's what forces him to return, in order to initiate his contingency plans

[@A_itsar]

If you want to make a continuation of the arkhamverse they could've make a batman beyond game with one of the robins as the man in the chair

[@drewmeyer9679]

I’m starting believe DC has no idea what fans actually want. It would explain why they have so many box office bombs. DCAU was very good they should’ve continued it

[@KingOfTheTrolls]

Anytime Superman comes up with the plans thousands die 💀

[@BanishedSilentShadow3318]

Its wild they thought this was a good idea to make a game center around killing the justice league by killing them the most disrespectful way as possible. I mean i face palmed over how the disrespect the Arkham batman by giving him that joel treatment.

[@PrinxeGaming_]

You and Akain are on some good shit with reviews ya be killing it

[@x0nix]

i really thought that before they revealed batman he would take the role of being the only one not mind controlled and basically be the suicide squads alfred and show them how to defeat the justice league

[@strongman5243]

If they wanted to make a suicide squad game they could've adapted some of the great stories from the comics but no they have to destroy the arkhamverse

[@uncleshagworthy]

A game where you can fly around as me would be really fun

[@TekkLuthor]

It's too obvious, those people won't understand what you're talking about and they will call you all kinds of names for dissing their masterpiece

[@EchoDoctrine]

They had a goldmine. More single player story driven action. Could have made JL game, could have made Batman makes Contingency plan for this Brainwashed Justice League. Could have used same Arkham bones to have Batman investigate each member, fight Captain Cold/Mr Freeze to get tech to then boss fight and stop/save Flash. Then Sinestro/Scarecrow fight for fear device to boss fight and save Green Lantern, Lex for kryptonite to save Superman, etc for Wonder Woman. Then in surprise 3rd act you play ad some of Justice League. Another Batman game then a Superman JL game would have sold great. BUT CEOs pushed crappy microtransactions live service battle pass loot shoot trash and it has less than 4,000 players on Steam, under 3,000 viewers tonight on Twitch. MORE people are watching “just sleeping” category and MORE people are watching Arkham Knight. Congrats WB and Sweet Baby.

[@nexusprime2487]

The premise of this game would've been more better if it was a planned Titans game with Nightwing already established the Titans and he along with Tim, and Barbara and the Titans stopped Brainiac and save the League and maybe put the Suicide Squad just to opposed the Titans who are sent in to kill the League than save them.

[@VellyDior]

Thing is we wouldn’t have a problem with another Batman voice actor he just needs to fit the role and respect it, we had different actors and they didn’t do a bad job they could of made a Batman beyond and either had Damian or terry be batman

[@drcrocreviews]

I've seen this idea suggested a few times, but if we were to have a game where we play as villains to kill the Justice League... why not just make it a Legion of Doom game? Think about it, Luther, Cheetah, Sinestro, Gorilla Grodd (or Captain Cold if you prefer), and a resurrected joker band together to finally kill the Justice League. Then you can expand the roster with characters like Deathstroke, Black Manta, and if Martian Manhunter is a member of the League (as he should), bring in Ma'alefa'ak. For those unaware, he's Jonn Jonnes brother from Mars, who has the same powers as him, telapathy and shape-shifting, but is completely immune to fire. The Hall of Doom acts like the hall of Justice from KTJL, With Mercy Graves acting similarly to Oracle from Arkham, Riddler has a role (he was one of the original 13 members of the legion) bring in Toyman as someone who can upgrade your weapons and gadgets etc. Then, with DLC's, you could maybe bring in some new members, Giganta, Metallo, Bizarro, Circe, Reverse-Flash, and add in more Justice Leaguers for us to fight.

[@sauron6977]

Don't revive Joker, just use Bane or Hush (a better one than Rocksteady did)since they can pose a physical and strategic threat to Batman

[@AlonzoTompkins]

The reason why they make Superman an idiot is because they can’t think of a good way for Superman to be defeated or they’re the people that think “Superman boring” and dislike him. The writers for this game are definitely the people that don’t understand actual heroes. They’re the people that hate altruistic characters because they do NOT understand them. They’re the people that think heroes should be horrible kill happy monsters and probably unioronically think that the Suicide Squad movie is a “Hero” movie or that the Punisher is a hero.

[@LGSN96]

Unfortunately Rocksteady basically ignore Arkham Origins. He was trying to reject help from his allies the entire time in Arkham Knight despite them always insisting. It's what got Robin taken actually.

[@lordmeamcraft2231]

They could have made a Batman game in between Origins and Asylum, a Superman game, A Flash game, Wonder Woman game, a Green Lantern game, a Bat Family game, or a Justice League game. So many ways to continue the Arkham-verse. But no, they were like; "lets make a suicide squad game that's a boring live service looter shooter where you kill all the the characters you'd rather play as".

[@yepyep2762]

Yeah honestly i dont know why they didn't start with a justice league game. If we had a game with them we would have had a stronger connection with them and the deaths in the suicide squad game would have had more impact...probably

[@wiick_man]

A flashpoint flash game would have been the perfect game to lead up to the justice league game.

[@hurricane7727]

They can still make it just use Wally West Flash instead of Barry

[@michealmahmoud6391]

I mean Wonder Woman always been depicted with advanced technology like the purple ray or invisible jet, this unfortunately wasn’t Carried over in the animated series or movie. Themiscyria is always been a Wakanda level island in the comics hence why it’s called Paradise Island

[@24KLuxury]

The game would be infinitely playable if you could start as one character on the SS or JL and have to decide to save or kill the other characters. The amount of possible outcomes is insane-but we got this.

[@Lauren007E]

Just think real quick, this game could have been a Superman game where after Knightfall Clark Kent (who'd been inspired by Batman to step out of the shadows and become Superman) decides to look into rumours of Bruce Wayne potentially faking his death and still being alive and active out there. So he goes to Gotham and Bluhaven and slowly meet the remaining batfamily who are all very tight-lipped about Bruce Wayne other than the fact he's dead. Probably have it so Tim/Robin is the first one you meet who teaches you stealth and distraction as well as giving you detective vision since Gotham has too much lead for you to see through in most buildings. Basically teaching you interrogation (which Supes was too soft on, so he has to be good cop) and gameplay basics as well as giving you the lead for Nightwing as he knew Bruce best. Meeting Nightwing is where the game starts properly. And fear toxin attacks start springing up in game, where a thick fog hangs in random neighbourhoods during the nights and if you stay there too long you get attacked by shadowy unkillable monsters. Some shouting Alien slurs or preying on insecurities about chasing ghosts instead of saving peoples lives. Let's say Toyman has followed you to Gotham, trying to prove he's the better mind than Riddler. And because it's fun. Nightwing shows up to help you and laugh at them with a "girls, girls, you're both pretty!" He can be the one who teaches you advanced aerial takedowns and maneuvers as well as helping you listen into enemy chatter by showing you the frequency which let's you listen in yourself for messages transmitted along it. He swears up and down that Bruce and Alfred are dead. What a shame, really sucks but life goes on. From Tim's lesson in interrogation you can tell he's lying. Also you never mentioned Alfred. You help out on a few more optional missions with him if you want before Bloodsport arrives to take over from Deathstroke since the Bat arrested him and he vanished (Probably into the Suicide Squad). While fighting him you first encounter Red hood. He won't even speak to you just leads you on a chase until he gets fed up and wounds a passerby to distract you so he can escape. Then you have to try get his attention by attacking the weapon and drug trade in Gotham only for him to attack you with kryptonite energy weapons bought and stole from Luthor (introducing a new weapon type in game that do serious damage). Shifting tactics to take out Red Hood's allies and enemies lures in increasing fear toxin visions. They're starting to become bat shaped and telling you to leave Gotham, you're only wasting time and disrupting the balance of their underworld. Telling you you're going to die. Finally Red hood starts working with you if only to use your powers for his own benefits. Here you get basically free reign to go ham using all of Superman's powers in big explosive battles or try to play stealth using speed and aerial takedowns while Jason fights through the last remaining gangs in Gotham until Amazo shows up and you've got an extremely difficult boss fight. Where you're against someone with all the same powers as you but none of the finess so you have to use all the skills you learned in game and maybe even call on some of the bat boys to fight him off. When you do then Jason finally tells you that Batman is alive, and where he and Alfred are in hiding since all of his men who enter these areas always come out with their heads scrambled, babbling about monsters and Demon's. Then the final 3 confrontations with Batman you can be a bitch of a game dev and lock behind catching all side criminals in Gotham before you go to the first safe house. The final confrontations (and fear toxin segments) play like hellblade, game basically turns into a horror. First House you have none of your powers, or even detective vision/coms to the batfamily as you sneak past trap after trap as you destroy the vents pumping in Fear Toxin until you finally find a withered old Batman, too old and injured to move. He scolds you for wasting your time. For being nothing without your powers. For expecting more out of a simple human, when a God like inhuman creature like him should have known better. This wasn't a game for the bat, he had real bravery. He took his life in his hands every night while you hid away or only showed up when it was convenient for you. Trying to interrogate this Batman makes him disappear and you have to evacuate the building before the safe house is blown up. Second house, you're dragged in the door and thrown into the dark where the Batman is stalking you. All the time taunting you as you destroy any potential hiding spaces or vantage points along with the vents pumping in Fear Toxin. This Batman parrots all those terrible takes about Batman being the real man, while Bruce Wayne was the mask, that he only acted as Batman for the thrill of it, taking in young traumatised children who needed a father figure to make them into weapons. Finally fighting this Batman leads to him disappearing too and the house being blown up until you finally reach the last safe house. This one is already different because there are no vents and two figures inside it. One with a kryptonite Canon, the other another demon Batman. They work together where the Canon attacks to disrupt your combos, and the Batman gets way more brutal and aggressive when the Canon is reloading or if you get too close to it. This one is saying about how he stopped fighting because he didn't care anymore. Why should he? The entire city and legal system turned on him once his name got out there. He lost his home, his company, his family legacy and his children's respect in one night. Gotham only ever took from him, he's finished with it. Finally defeating this Batman the weapon he was trying to stab you with is revealed to be a kryptonite batarang coated with fear toxin antidote and a really beaten up looking Batman finally speaks to you saying he never stopped caring and he never stopped protecting Gotham. And that he admires how hard you worked to get to him, even getting his kids to talk to each other again. The game could end implying that they'd work together from then on, looking for other people to recruit. Maybe even get a worlds Finest DLC where you get to play as Batman or Superman coordinating strategies to work best in the field and bantering. If you play as Batman you're getting Superman to rush in as a distraction and attack like in the Arkham series alternating takedowns. As Superman you have to identify a target area and route for Batman to take while you take out and distract the bad guys. Instead we got this....

[@cb-ev1tz]

I feel like the toxic masculinity part is a joke, and if you reread his bit with that kind of tone the "advanced technology" sounds like another jab. The advanced technology of a nano-particle material edge...on a sword...

[@ConnorClark-z2v]

You know what would have been cool? If you played as batman and fought each of the justice league members and using their weakness and his plans to capture each member.

[@ssgogeta29]

This crisis would’ve been a perfect reason to get him out of retirement. This is the reason he should’ve returned to being Batman. The writers shit on all the heroes, minus WW, in this game.

[@Childofgotham7624]

In the DC universe batman's mind and will is strong enough to break through brainiacs mind control so even if brainiac did manage to control batman he would eventually break through his control this isn't the only inaccuracy there was one with green lantern and his ring also they could've just let the player choose which members to kill and which to spare like a telltale game

[@emperorsean1]

I'm not against multiplayer. I miss 2 player games. A justice league game with the option to play as other characters throughout the game would be good and people want that back.

[@MistahJay7]

All they had to do was Put Batman in Wonder Womans role in the story. Obvs the fight with Superman would be different but you get what I mean. Could have been like Batman disagreed with Superman to go to Braniacs ship so he stayed behind and when everyone got brainwashed Bats goes into hiding till the Suicide Squad runs into him. Yall work together going through Bats contingencies Harley gets over her hate for Batman and we have a whole ass character ark for everyone. Batman can even die at the end either Fighting Superman or something to let the League through to Braniac for the end game. How fucking hard could that have been lol

[@hurricane7727]

Batman should have Stayed behind to Telport the League if Something Goes Wrong( Superman didn't even have a Backup plan of having someone Stay on the Watchtower to monitor the Situation

[@The_Weasel_]

Tbf on the Batman being hesitant to teamwork line, I think the real arc you should've pointed out was the arc in Arkham Knight. The whole story is about Batman believing himself to be a potential threat, so he pushes his allies away. The thing that defeats him and allows Scarecrow to unmask him is that he locked Robin away, preventing him from assisting him. Because he was so adamant on carrying the burden of saving Gotham on his own shoulders, he was forced to go into hiding.

[@Deadopb]

Harley Quinn punching Batman while he tied down, hurt my soul 😭🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@tyronleung5276]

Flash could've time traveled to warn the justice league about braniac this game makes no sense

[@christianstewart41]

In the comics the Amazons were far more advanced technologically. i mean they did make a invisible jet

[@PizzaTimeGuy]

Ngl, when i saw the very first trailer, i thought that we where gonna play as an evil superman or a evil Justice league back then. No idea why i thought that.