Justification, Baptism, & Salvation Through the Catholic Church

Sermon on the teaching of the dogma "No Salvation Outside the Church". Father compares the teaching of Fr Feeney to what the Church really teaches. Also, we clear up the teachings of Baptism of water, desire, & blood. For more please visit www.romans10seventeen.org/ & please remember to say 3 Hail Marys for the priest

[@user-ji2on8eg3l]

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil; May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

[@babyangel315]

Thank you and May God Bless you forever Father! I love Saint Pope Pius X, he explains the Truth and this makes perfect sense to me!

[@stlouisix3]

The theories of Baptism of Desire and Blood are false

[@babyangel315]

Amen!

[@Spiritof76Catholic]

Brothers and Sisters in Christ never listen to protestants who troll Catholic podcasts to ruin souls. As 1 Peter 5:8-11 tells us, "8 Be sober, be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking some one to devour. 9 Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experience of suffering is required of your brotherhood throughout the world. 10 And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, establish, and strengthen you. 11 To him be the dominion for ever and ever. Amen." The Bible is a Catholic book. It always was and always will be. God bless you all.

[@babyangel315]

Amen.

[@mypony891]

I agree with there being baptism of blood and desire, and even though this priest did a nice job of explaining this, he kept saying there was unanamnity between the doctors and father's of the church. He, however, only has a couple of examples saying the affirmative but doesn't mention those of the opposite. It would have been helpful for some who fine themselves trying to help people who don't believe in these ways to heaven because of the doctors and father's who speak against.

[@CatholicHusband]

The Fathers who teach against it prove that BOD and BOB are not teachings of the Magisterium. They are opinions of men and the positions are false. Water baptism is absolutely necessary for the salvation of souls, as The Magisterium, St. Thomas, St. Augustine and all the saints have taught. "As to the denial of Baptism, that new birth unto God, and the rejection of all faith: this species of unbelief is the suggestion of Satan." - St. Irenaeus of Lyon.

[@10libra63]

Justification means Just If I Have Never Sinned. We are all Sinners in need of a Savior. Jesus Christ was our only Savior and by His shed Blood Justifies us the enter Heaven through Him. Jesus says, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one will enter Heaven but through Me." Believe we are Saved through Christ alone, repent of your sins never to return to a sinful lifestyle, and you will be Saved. By your Good works, though, you will recieve your Crowns.

[@GustAdlph]

Salvation is found in the blood of Jesus alone. We still sin even after we come to Jesus, but He has paid it all.

[@RadioRanchitoMeGustaMasTanTan]

​@@GustAdlph but if you continue to sin you go to hell

[@peteroliver7943]

@gustaph no believer can go to hell he can chasend by God and lose reward 1 corrinthians chapter 3 verse 16 2 corrinthians chapter 5 see Hebrews 12 1 corrinthians chapter 11 Paul's letter to Ephesians chapter 1 we sealed by the holy spirit permanently.

[@stlouisix3]

The Holy Sacrament of Baptism by water 💦 💦 💦 💦 💧 💧 is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for SALVATION✝️❤️‍🔥🗝️

[@CatholicHusband]

What is the instrumental cause of justification in Baptism of Desire?

[@SJohnson529]

Perfect contrition.

[@CatholicHusband]

@@SJohnson529 Thank you for your reply. Where does the Church teach that Perfect Contrition can wash away Original Sin?

[@SJohnson529]

I can’t say whether it is said explicitly in those terms, but Baptism of Desire is certainly affirmed by Catholic teaching. Do you deny that baptism of desire and blood are efficacious?

[@CatholicHusband]

@@SJohnson529 If the Church hasn't taught that BOD or BOB wash away Original Sin, why do you believe they can do that? No, they are not efficacious. Our Lord declared that "Unless a man is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven". Does BOD or BOB make one "born again of water"?

[@Spiritof76Catholic]

@@CatholicHusband My 1st response disappeared because I used a link that wasn’t accessible to KZbin. Anyway I doubt that you will accept my defense but Stephen Johnson is right, the Church has always taught that perfect contrition removes sin, mortal or original. Jesus passed on deposit of faith giving us water baptism but also baptism of blood, the Good Thief, Luke 23:39-43 and baptism of desire as Cornelius, Acts 10:2, 42-48. This is confirmed in the Catechism of Trent, dz 796, 798, 847 and more and the new Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraphs 1258, 1260, 1281 and more. You’re a big boy look these up answers to your questions at a good Catholic apologetics site instead of denying the responses you get from helpful people like Stephen. But that’s your point to be contrarian. God bless you.

[@QuisutDeusmpc]

Who is the homilist?

[@jackthayer1289]

This talk of invincible ignorance and implicit desire, what does it all mean?

[@CatholicHusband]

It's rank heresy. No one who dies in ignorance of the Catholic faith, or outside the Body of the Church, can be saved. The only way into the Church is water baptism, and there is no remission of sin outside the Church (Infallible - Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam).

[@alexis_says_hi]

Who is the priest? I don't see his name.

[@SuperDominusvobiscum]

i have a question. when i have heard this subject talked about the council of Florence never gets quoted. even though it speaks on the subject of salvation outside the church? Is it because it is hard to reconcile what pope Eugene said and i quote to the best of my memory "if someone being outside of the church was to give alms to the poor all of his life and even shed his blood for christ he will not be saved". Densiger's sources of catholic dogma list this quote as an ex cathedra statement, so catholics are bound to accept it. i dont disagree with what father said, just want to reconcile the above statement with his talk. i heard the above statement from a talk on KZbin by Charles Columbe who is a Fineeite supporter, so maybe he misquoted pope Eugine. Pax vobiscum.

[@WillStrop2008]

That was in the context of reconciling the East-West Schism. (It only worked for a short time, sadly.) As said at the end of the video, one must at the VERY least be united to the Church by implicit desire, in order to be saved. Anyone, even a martyr, who willingly abstained from the unity of the church despite *knowing* its necessity, would be damned. That hypothetical martyr with no desire for the Church's unity and the healing of schisms is, in my opinion, unlikely to exist, but it is the hypothetical that the Council of Florence and Pope Eugene IV invoked. Does that clear things up for you?

[@johnvitalli3751]

constantine crusader also when we do good deeds it is because of our obedience to the teachings of God and Jesus that give us graces to do good deeds and walk in Jesus Christ which God has prepared for us so a man could give billions to the poor but if it is of himself those acts are nothing to God you can’t earn your way to heaven...

[@CatholicHusband]

You are correct that Pope Eugene IV's bull, Cantate Domino from the Council of Florence is not reconcilable with the "teachings" of BOD and BOB. Pope Eugene IV states that ALL the Jews, ALL the pagans, ALL the heretics, and ALL the schismatics are damned unless they join the ecclesiastical body of the Church before the end of their lives. Most people who teach BOD today, claim that BOD makes one a member of the soul of the Church but not the Body. But Eugene IV infallibly defined that to be saved, one must join the ECCLESIASTICAL BODY. So by this admission, they admit BOD is false and cannot possibly be true. Water baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation as the dogmas and all the saints and doctors declare: "As to the denial of Baptism, that new birth unto God, and the rejection of all faith: this species of unbelief is the suggestion of Satan." - St. Irenaeus of Lyon.

[@np3m]

Same tired old thing. If he would limit his time to an exclusive examination of Trent's infallible teaching on the matter, he would then be forced to conclude that Trent infallibly teaches that there is no justification without the sacrament or the desire thereof - period. This is dogma. Trent certainly never said salvation is possible or attainable via a desire thereof, never even said justification is attainable or possible via a desire thereof - only that without it, there is no justification. Which is to say that even with it, justification is not certain.

[@titaniumsteel9114]

Scriptures that anti catholic protestants will never quote for you...WHY? because they prove Catholic doctrines to be TRUE & protestant accusations to be FALSE: ➨BAPTISM: Baptism is neccessary for salvation: Mark 16:16 He who believes & is BAPTIZED shall be saved. Rom 5:18-19 ALL have inherited Adams sin and the condemnation it brings. ➨INFANT BAPTISM: The apostles baptized entire families (this would include children) Acts 16:15 & 33 also 1 Cor 1:16. 1 Peter 3:20,21,8 souls were saved by WATER. 21 = the like figure whereunto even Baptist doth also now SAVE us. Acts 2:38-39 38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you, AND YOUR CHILDREN and for all who are far off-for all whom the Lord our God will call ➨BELIEVERS DO NOT ESCAPE JUDGEMENT: 2 Cor 5:10--ALL will appear before the judgement seat ➨BORN AGAIN: How are we born again?:... John 3:3-7 Jesus said, "Unless a man is born of water (baptism) & the spirit, he will not see the kingdom of God" ➨CALL NO MAN FATHER is not meant as a literal command because: Paul tells us he is our Father in faith: 1 Corinthians ----4:15---- You may have ten thousand teachers in Christ, but you don’t have many fathers. Through the Good News I became your father in Christ Jesus. Jesus talks about Father Abraham: John --8:56-- Your father Abraham was overjoyed that he would see my day. He saw it and was happy ➨CONFESSION: Why confess to a Priest? Jesus gives power to the Priests to forgive sins: John --20:23-- He breathed on them & said, "recieve the Holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven, Whose sins you retain are retained" James --5:16-- Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. ➨FAITH ALONE (sola fide) is incorrect: REV ----20:12----...The dead are judged BY THEIR WORKS. JAMES ----2:18---- Faith without works is dead MATTEW --19:17-- Jesus tells us if we want to enter into Life, we must keep the commandments. JAMES --2:24-- You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. ROMANS 2:6 He will judge everyone according to what they have done PHILIPPIANS ----2:12-----13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. Romans 2:6 He will judge everyone according to what they have done. (WORKS) Matt 25, JESUS tells us to feed the poor, clothe the naked and do good for others. He further warns us that those who do NOT will be sent away into the eternal fire. All this falls under the catagory of doing good WORKS. Luke ----16:19-----30 The story of Lazarus and the rich man shows us that the rich man went to hell for refusing to help Lazarus who was poor and hungry. (He refused to do good works) ➨IMAGES: Not all images are forbidden, nor are all images idols:- EXODUS 25:18-22-God commands images of Angels to be made NUMBERS 21:8-9 God commands another image to be made, a serpent ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: Job 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. INTERCESSIONof MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, The Wedding party asked MARY to help them and She went to JESUS on their behalf. ➨MARY: Luke 1:24-48: ● She is chosen by God, ● She is blessed among women, ● She is full of grace (God's purity by which he saves us) ● and All generations will call her blessed. ● Her intercession is described in the story of the wedding at Cana, John 2:1. the people of the wedding party went to MARY AND SHE WENT TO Jesus on their behalf. He then turned the water to wine because she asked him to. ➨PENENCE: Protestants reject the idea that they must do "penence" (attempt to make up for the sins they have committed) Luke 19:8. Zacchaeus told Jesus if he has cheated anyone, he will repay them 4 times over. Mark 2:20 Jesus said (regarding his disciples): The days are coming when the Bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast. Matthew 6:16 When you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrits do ➨PURGATORY:. Daniel 12:10 10 Many will be purged, [a]purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but [b] those who have insight will understand. Matthew 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will Not be forgiven, either in this world, nor in the "world to come" This implies that some sins are forgiven in the "world to come" (purgatory) also 1 Cor 3:12-15 & more in the Catholic Bible ➨SAINTS are not among the dead, They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. Matthew 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. Luke 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. Rev ----6:10---- The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) Heb 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ➨ intercession of the saints: REV 5 v 8...And when he had opened the book, the four living creatureS and the four and twenty ancients fell down before the lamb, having every one of them harps and golden bowls full of incense and the prayers of the saints ➨SCRIPTURE ALONE: (SOLASCRIPTURA) is incorrect:... ● JOHN --21:25-- Jesus said & did many other things that are not recorded in writing ● 1 Tim --3:15- The pillar & foundation of truth is the CHURCH ●..The Church predates the Bible by 4 centuries. The protestant doctrine of scripture ALONE was invented by Luther for the purpose of disobeying the Church. ➨TRADITIONS: Traditions of the Church are NOT "Traditions of men:.. 2 Thess 2:15 Paul tells us to hold fast to the traditions we have been taught either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter. ➡The sin of presumption:.. 1 Cor 10:12..Let he who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall .. Matthew 21:31-..Take heed lest the harlots and publicans go into the kingdom ahead of you ➨VAIN REPETITION: Repeating a prayer is not "VAIN REPETITION": "Vain repetition" simply means INSINCERE WORDS: Rev 4:8 The living creatures that are before the throne of God in heaven REPEAT day and night: "Holy Holy HOly is the Lord of Hosts ➨THE TRUE PRESENCE OF JESUS in the Eucharist:- JOHN 6:52-56-- Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man & drink his blood you do not have life in you. For my flesh is food indeed & my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh & drinks my blood has Eternal Life & I will raise him up on the last day. Luke 22:19-20 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." 20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.[a] ➨ONE TRUE CHURCH ● MATT 16:13-19--Jesus gives keys of the Kingdom to Peter, and builds his church upon Peter. PETER THE FIRST POPE HOLDS THE KEYS ● 1 TIMOTHY 3:15--The pillar & foundation of truth is the CHURCH ● Eph 2:19-21 calls out a visible unified church built on Apostles with Christ as the head, but people reject that cornerstone as WordMinistry does here.

[@Doug8521]

Every time I tell anti Catholics that the Church wrote the Bible, they go nuts and interestingly enough can’t prove the opposite

[@mlpires1815]

Bravo, so concise and to the point. Never understood why our protestant friends are so insistent on sola scriptura. Check the history my friends.

[@rbnmnt3341]

Titanium steel, we won't quite certain scriptures because they prove catholic doctrines? Ok, show me where I can find the immaculate conception, the perpetual virginity, the assumption in scripture. Show me where it says the pope is the vicar of Christ. Show me where I can read about the rosary in scripture. The fact that there is some scripture IN the rosary, doesn't make it scriptural. That was a clever trick to fool people like you to believe it's biblical. Show me where Jesus or peter prayed the rosary. You talk about the church being built on peter. Tell me what Psalms 118:22, psalms 18:2. 1 Corinthians 3:11 and 1 Corinthians 10:4 mean. Tell me what peter means in 1 Peter 2:4-8. Jesus said you are peter. But he didn't say you peter are the rock. Those scriptures clearly say who the foundation, the Chief cornerstone and THE ROCK is. It's not peter. Matthew 16 does not say anything about a ROMAN catholic church. It mentions no religion or denomination. Furthermore if you read Luke 22 it totally destroys the idea of peter ever being a pope. Now on tradition. Didn't Paul say something like STAND FAST AND HOLD the traditions you HAVE BEEN taught. He didn't say "will be taught". Didn't he say KEEP the traditions AS I DELIVERED THEM UNTO YOU? So how does that translate into add traditions as your church has done? You might want to read Matthew and Colossians. You will find that neither Jesus or Paul speak favorably about tradition. Peter and Jesus never taught roman catholic doctrines or dogmas. Jesus never said pray to his mother. He said pray to his Father. Jesus never said that the way to him was through his mother. He said "I AM THE WAY". Peter said it is Jesus who brings us to God. You might want to read his epistles. You will find NOTHING catholic about his two epistles. Most important you won't find a shred of evidence that says Jesus, Mary ir the apostles were catholic. They were Jewish. So Jesus, being Jewish, of a Jewish mother, with Jewish apostles did not found a Roman catholic church. So no Jesus, no Mary and no apostles equals NO CHURCH. If nothing else a false church, an empty egg shell.

[@roberteaston6413]

@@mlpires1815 Pope Francis said that atheists of goodwill will go to Heaven. If that is the case then why be a Catholic?

[@peteroliver7943]

Wrong God's word the Bible , says salvation is through trusting in the finished work of the Lord on the cross .He died for our sins and rose again so He could be our Lord and Saviour.Jesus said in John chapter 14 IAM the way the truth the life no one comes to the father except by me. The church is their to present the gospel of salvation as laid out in the Bible but the church cannot save anyone . Only Christ can.

[@10libra63]

Just before we enter into heaven, the Father sees we have no sin because we gave our sin to Jesus Christ. We were Justified by His Blood. The Father will look at us and say at that time, before entering heaven, He/She has been Justified or Just As If He/She has Never Sinned. Yes we will sin again while living on earth because of our human nature but here on earth our sin are covered by His Blood.

[@ACF1901]

Baptism of desire is nonsense, and not infallibly taught

[@stlouisix3]

As is the theory of 'Baptism of 'Blood''

[@BrennaButcher]

Sounds like Feeneyism 😕

[@ACF1901]

@@BrennaButcher sounds like catholicism. Truth cannot lead to nonsensical contradictions.

[@BrennaButcher]

@@ACF1901 Sounds like you’re a sedevacantist

[@ACF1901]

@@BrennaButcher That's because you've been indoctrinated with modernism and liberalism you don't know what real catholicism sounds like.

[@CatholicHusband]

There is no salvation for those who die unbaptized or who do not possess the Catholic faith: Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “The Athanasian Creed,” Sess. 8, Nov. 22, 1439, ex cathedra: “Whoever wishes to be saved, needs above all to hold the Catholic faith; unless each one preserves this whole and inviolate, he will without a doubt perish in eternity.”

[@willwade8415]

Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus Outside the Ekklesia no one is saved. Catholics teach truth that no one can be saved outside the Ecclesiam. So a warning, if you are in a Church you can not be saved because the purpose of a Church is nothing like the purpose of the Ecclesiam of Christ. You must learn what the true purpose or function of the Bible "Ekklesia" of Christ is to do to be saved. Ekklesia the entire group gathered to deliberate disputed doctrine (instructions making the claim to be from God).

[@robertdipaula1623]

wow

[@robertdipaula1623]

wow

[@robertdipaula1623]

beautiful

[@IIICENTURIONIII]

Will Wade

[@7James77]

The Church teaches that through invincible ignorance it is possible through Baptism of Desire for one to be saved.

[@daddada2984]

Stay away from catholicism. Stay away from idolatry & fanaticism of men. Follow Jesus, become a Christian. Identify yourself with Jesus Christ not with institutions of fallible men.

[@hyeminkwun9523]

On separated churches and true Christians, Our Lord says (excerpts from Maria Valtorta's Notebooks 1945-1950, pp. 579 and 581): "Separated churches gave themselves a human constitution, preserving as regards the True Church only what they liked to preserve to call themselves 'Christian.' But to be Christians does not mean just to pray to Christ and preach Him in some way or other; it does not mean to be even more rigorist than true Catholics in certain matters. Yet that did not make them -- aside from rare exceptions -- 'Christians' but, on the contrary, made them 'anti-Christians.' To be Christians means to form part of the Mystical Body (Eph 5:23) by belonging to the Church of Rome as Catholics and belonging to Christ by truly living as He taught and commanded to live (Matt 28:20). Otherwise, one is not a Christian in reality, not even if one is Catholic. Otherwise, people will be called Christians, but not be shoots nourished by Him (John 15:1-5). They will be detached shoots (John 15:6) which, even if they are not completely dry because a natural tendency towards Goodness make them act as just ones, are nevertheless branches that have replanted themselves on their own, in a proud way, and have produced a plant standing apart which yields fox-grapes and not good ones. To bear abundant and holy fruit, they must be grafted onto the True Vine. This is valid for both the individual shoots and those forming a life apart, the separated churches which have given their own constitution, conceived by their founder -- a man and not the God-Man -- cannot have that totality of spiritual life which only belonging to the Mystical Body maintains and protects against ever-greater separations, not only from the Body itself, but from the Truth and Light which render secure the way leading from the earthly Church to the Heavenly One." Why Our Lord said "anti-Christians"? Because they arrogate to themselves a right to teach God's words, which God gave to His Church alone, use the Name of the Lord for their own interests, lure unsuspecting souls using the Gospel, cherry-picking to suit their aims and then, mislead and confuse them who, out of ignorance, do not know the True Way, obstruct them from finding the True Church and Faith, and teach heresies and a partial truth as the Truth, endangering souls to perdition. All their work is against Our Lord and helps His enemy, therefore, people following their teachings become "anti-Christians". Why separated in a proud way? Because they judged teachings of the Catholic Church were wrong, rejected Our Lord's Church, and then made their own, in imitation of Satan's pride and rebellion.

[@Spiritof76Catholic]

Brothers and Sisters in Christ never listen to protestants who troll Catholic podcasts to ruin souls. As 1 Peter 5:8-11 tells us, "8 Be sober, be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking some one to devour. 9 Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experience of suffering is required of your brotherhood throughout the world. 10 And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, establish, and strengthen you. 11 To him be the dominion for ever and ever. Amen." The Bible is a Catholic book. It always was and always will be. God bless you.

[@michaelbledsoe4355]

Baptism and the sacraments for salvation is not found in the Bible and church authority never trumps Gods word. Total lack of understanding and misinterpretation of the scriptures. The apocrypha books are not inspired and their is no Apostolic successor. The Magisterium is the modern day Sanhedrin and Jesus has condemned both.

[@markwalkerrocker4Jesus]

Church authority is granted in the Bible

[@CatholicHusband]

John 3:5, Titus 3:5, Acts 2:38, Galatians 3:26-27, 1 Peter 3:21, Eph 5:26, Hebrews 10:22, etc. Baptismal regeneration is one of the most easily demonstrable Biblical doctrines that exist. You clearly don't know the Scriptures and haven't studied them with a heart bent on truth.

[@SuperDominusvobiscum]

i have a question. when i have heard this subject talked about the council of Florence never gets quoted. even though it speaks on the subject of salvation outside the church? Is it because it is hard to reconcile what pope Eugene said and i quote to the best of my memory "if someone being outside of the church was to give alms to the poor all of his life and even shed his blood for christ he will not be saved". Densiger's sources of catholic dogma list this quote as an ex cathedra statement, so catholics are bound to accept it. i dont disagree with what father said, just want to reconcile the above statement with his talk. i heard the above statement from a talk on KZbin by Charles Columbe who is a Fineeite supporter, so maybe he misquoted pope Eugine. Pax vobiscum.

[@thomascomerford7815]

constantine crusader One must be in the Church when they die. This means that they have to be in a state of grace, because those who are in this state are in the Soul of the Church. Thus, someone unaware of the Catholic faith being true can still be in the invisible Church if he repents of all of his mortal sins.

[@neilanadams5173]

Yes often times traditional priests are in error on no Salvation Outside the Church. And they promote error of 3 baptisms.