Justify Your Existence. I'll Wait. - Colorful iGame AIO

[@maxluthor6800]

Man, I was getting so sad about how everything has become and out of nowhere I get a notification saying " justify your existence. I'll wait" 💀

[@billjamal4764]

Lmao dude keep pushing tho!

[@yakisobaguitarist]

I thought I was getting called out

[@jacobhare3093]

Stolen comment lol

[@lukeholland8083]

Man, I was getting so sad about how everything has become and out of nowhere I get a notification saying " justify your existence. I'll wait" 💀

[@mattheww.2386]

"I didn't choose to be born Dad... You need better pull out game. That is my justification for existing." The thing I bet most thought at some point.

[@notnerd3]

Honestly, this would be kinda interesting if it had some sort of HDMI input which would mean the fairly decent screen wouldn't immediately go to waste when the PC hardware gets out of date.

[@tolik-tolik]

My old all-in-one Lenovo B520 from 2011 actually has this feature

[@Swonke]

My monitor has this feature.

[@sovo1212]

It would be better for the environment, but still it would be more expensive than a PC/NUC/laptop with a separate monitor.

[@dodge2451]

@@jimmyfuchstein2274 5ms measured... The only monitors really lower than that are OLED.... see hardware unboxed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIPdeKmhpriBl6s

[@SyntheticFuture]

@@sovo1212 it'd much rather use a Nuc than this solution 😅trap it to the back of a monitor and you have a nice system you can replace parts of when it fails. Seems like a good solution for a work pc.

[@offroader23]

I feel that this could be just slightly thicker with some big heatsinks and some top fans. Then it could run full desktop hardware while not taking much more room and have much better temps, plus much more ease for upgradability and serviceability. It is definitely an odd product.

[@mrducky179]

maybe they couldve used low profile noctuas itll prolly be way quieter

[@TypicalNerds]

@1 Million With 0 Videos Challenge (day 2) Heres some words of wisdom from a wise man. "Oh My God! Who the hell cares?"

[@ethanbridglal2203]

@@TypicalNerds You are indeed a wise man 👌

[@parasecglenkwyst4835]

Comparing the hardware to an open bech setup is pretty much pointles considering how much airflow impacts temperatur.

[@tylerbeaumont]

Yeah, but that wouldn’t look as sexy on a TV ad that starts with an Intel Inside logo now, would it? Most companies selling AIOs don’t much care about performance when the basic idea of a slick looking AIO is enough to sell systems to most people. I would definitely like to see a more high-end AIO though, but I just don’t think there’s a big enough market for it when compared with the more casual and corporate markets that AIOs are currently selling to.

[@JarrodsTech]

Good to see you get the benefits of laptop fan noise too!

[@hillbillysamurai]

I like your logo

[@Z020852]

Any chance you'll get the MinisForum NUC X15? ETAPrime's more on emulation than more PC benchmarks so I'm hoping both of you will test and review that for PC and more noise to performance data.

[@8koi245]

Bruh 💀

[@RR-ho3td]

big fan here Jarrod! Keep it up

[@rashdecision]

I'd looked into AIOs like this before, and considered DIY'ing one myself using an old laptop to use as a side PC. This item is very likely made for people who want the clean setup of an iMac, but want the benefit of a native Windows / PC environment. Combine this AIO with a wireless keyboard, mouse, and headset. You'll have a rather extreme example of desk cable management that has some FPS-pushing capability. Ultimately, this is a form over function design to me. It has a very niche market, and limited reach. The reason enthusiasts have trouble validating its existence is simply because it wasn't made for enthusiasts.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

@@09f9 I was gonna say, like why buy this with the price point for the gpu most likely being the main factor, and not being able to actually use it to its full potential. pairing hardware that barely suits it is questionable at best if the designers know what they are doing.

[@ALmaN11223344]

Even AIOs have no business being so crippled in an era where low profile cooling components are a reality...90 degree mounts on waterblocks for both the CPU and GPU could render a marginally larger chassis whilst providing insane amounts more performance. Hell, my Velka 7 looks similar in volume and can hold and sustain an aircooled 3080...

[@rashdecision]

@@09f9 Absolutely agreed. This unit certainly feels like it falls into a category of "The target market is not who it's actually for." It's really hard to place it into anyone's hands squarely, really. Like I said, this is for a tiny subset of people who want an iMac but don't want to buy an Apple.

[@rashdecision]

@@ALmaN11223344 My thoughts exactly. Zotac's been handing out really neat little NUC units with top end graphics for years. Why wouldn't I just strap one of those to the back of a monitor and call it a life?

[@aronseptianto8142]

like i get it if it's a low powered i5 for school/work environment but with that kind of spec, isn't a bit of a waste to not only lose on performance but also portability it's like the worst of both world

[@MarkReedUK]

Free idea for laptop / AIO manufacturers similar to that "rage mode" have a BIOS option for "CHE mode". CHE (Cat Hair Eject) mode does the same thing as rage mode on the fans, but runs them in reverse to blow debris back out of your air coolers. 🙂

[@PeterRahilly]

ASUS had this on some GPUs a ways back. GPU fans would spin in reverse for 10 seconds or something upon power on to help get rid of dust or some other guff.

[@white_mage]

@@PeterRahilly neat

[@TheChemizzle]

Really wish more fans did this.

[@holderofallknowledge604]

the next einstein right here.

[@baltazard133T]

Pretty much every fan slot I've seen on modern desktops have a place for a filter anymore.....

[@TheGenericPerson]

"desktop is desktop, laptop is laptop" best quote Edit: Thanks for the likes guys! most like I have ever gotten! 978!

[@leonie_gata_de_outono]

Unless you are Apple, then you make a AIO workhorse, also a cute one at that.

[@thetoasterisonfire2080]

@1 Million With 0 Videos Challenge (day 2) Begone bot

[@luckybudda88]

Don't forget that math is math

[@deforged]

"it is what it is" Rev. Jeremiah Seinfeld

[@gamersmudngrubshow6119]

I got really emotional at that part.

[@baltogames1501]

I just have to say that I am so appreciative of channels like LTT, GamersNexus, JayzTwoCents, Greg Salazar, Bitwit, and Paul's Tech Tips for giving us so much valuable training and information. I have saved so much money and gained so much confidence in building and repairing my own PCs. I live in a country which is among the hardest languages to learn ( Slovak), so I am pretty much on my own when trying to source components and make my builds/repairs. I can happily say that I am fully confident in my abilities and was considering starting my own pc build shop before a certain large country invaded a certain smaller country who we happen to share a border with and sent prices of everything to the moon. Anyway, I have upgraded, repaired and built my own PCs thanks to the good-natured and enthusiast-supportive information from these channels; and I'd like to say thank you for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us. You really are making the world a better place, one video at a time.

[@petermuller2583]

5:00 he made it very difficult for himself, everyone’s first instinct when repairing a large display is to put it display side on the table so it doesn’t wobble around and the display itself can’t be damaged by accident

[@TheChemizzle]

Putting it display down first would greatly increase the risk of ripping out the cable for the wireless charging when you removed the base. All of the force would be on the base of the stand since the monitor can't tilt far enough to lay flat when face down. The second you detach the base, all of that weight will shift to the vertical part of the stand and it will drop, potentially ripping out the cable. And you could say "Well, just hold it when you remove it!" and you would be correct, but 1 handing the removal is also pretty risky since you are putting a lot more force into one hand and over pulling it is a big risk once it detaches. He simply played it safe.

[@nanoprehistoric]

unless you have an iMac

[@lordcheeto]

@@TheChemizzle It's not clear to me that the base must be removed. He unscrewed it first, but it looks like the access panel for the internals would come off just fine with it attached.

[@Xfade81]

@@TheChemizzle he could've just waited with removing the base and flip it first lol.

[@TheChemizzle]

@@lordcheeto The panel can't come off with the base on, for starters you need to put your hand inside in order to pull it outwards, secondly the front panel has clips that go into the base. (Visible at 5:46)

[@dwirandypradhika6752]

Good call on the cybercafe thing, most seats with larger than 27" screen would be equipped with top tier hardware for people to stream from and such. The rest would still have better specs than this AiO, and be connected to a 24" monitor because esport tryhards don't like playing csgo on a large display.

[@wario7393]

This is oddly very much popular in office settings where you need a decent computational power, but always be plugged in and only be used in one place. Like editing booths in tv stations

[@LRM12o8]

Sounds like a terrible idea, because as Linus said, under a sustained high load it either thermal throttles or gets louder than a hairdryer

[@PendelSteven]

Welll, editing video probably not. But editing scripts, visual assets... Sure.

[@marvcyber815]

This would be very popular on Internet Cafes if those were still around

[@furret1_]

@1 Million With 0 Videos Challenge (day 2) ok i wont

[@alexisrivera200xable]

@@marvcyber815 Not really the fact that you have to throw away the monitor too with the PC once the PC is too old to play the popular games means they have to spend more money than necessary. It makes poor business sense even if some business do it just for the uncluttered look.

[@baconmcbacon62]

I can see this being useful for a design lab at a college or something like that. Good for beginner designer or CAD work.

[@greedsmack]

I actually think an all in one is geared toward people like my wife that sit their laptop on a small desk or table and never move it or unplug it. She doesn’t have the space in her setup for a full desktop, nor does she want it. I think an AIO like this would be a good middle ground

[@gamergod9182]

what kind of desks are you people using that you can't put a mid tower under it somewhere to wards the back?

[@slackaduts]

@@gamergod9182 really laying on the condescension pretty thick

[@formdoggie5]

@@gamergod9182 sounds like youve never lived in a small apartment or rented a room in a house. AIO's are really good for that.

[@itbakkawi]

@@formdoggie5 confirming as a renter in NYC, space is at a premium, and while laptops are more all in one, they have their own issues such as clumsy spills completely disabling a keyboard, and the fact that if you leave a battery plugged in long enough it might balloon out of control, both of which happened to my xps 13 when it became my dedicated workstation during the pandemic. I bought an AIO to replace it because 24" and decent webcam and used it mostly just to remote into my desktop at work. Unfortunately it didn't have a strong enough GPU to play some mmos to help pass the time so like many others I settled on playing Animal Crossing.... for what felt like forever, as I watched in horror GPU prices become increasingly gross.

[@eduardocchipinti1493]

But then again, it’s 32”, it’s gonna take a lot of space either way

[@Handro_]

Rage mode would be useful for overnight rendering of large 4k videos or blender renders

[@Sandmonmsn]

What if framework did products like this. Upgradable motherboards & GPU's on OLED monitors with customisable ports. Don't need to say more.

[@sovo1212]

It kinda already exists. A case for existing Framework mainboards, with VESA compatible mounts. It's even printable.

[@Sandmonmsn]

@@sovo1212 My thoughts were to get something like the dell optiplex 7070 ultra. With a upgrade path for the motherboard & either laptop or desktop GPU's. With a greater range of ports, say 6 to 10 ports. Having this plug into a quality OLED panel that with the PC removed can still act as a monitor. Just all the benefits and minimised downsides. Yes framework has a printable case but it's not as great a design as the dell optiplex.

[@darin7553]

A monitor with a micro ATX motherboard slot?

[@Sandmonmsn]

@@darin7553 more like this, kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIC6lGVrm7Gfe9E with a GPU and having the ports be on the stand, just having the pc plug into the monitor and be 'plug and play' in upgrading it to new hardware.

[@sovo1212]

@@Sandmonmsn Optiplex has a proprietary design. Good luck if you have to replace the motherboard or the power supply. Those are similar issues than the actual AIO.

[@thatoneguyffs]

10:32 you missed a chance to throw a desk pad at linus

[@Yaboyshock]

As someone who uses rtx voice when streaming and plays games with headphones on I normally have my fans turned all the way up because it doesnt really make a difference having my fans be all the way up or not but this would definately be good for someone who doesnt already have a pc or isnt looking to max out every game

[@nSnowCrow]

You should compare your power consumption with full blast and quiet. There are fans out there which can draw up to 10W per fan. With the high number of fans in the average system this can be costly with current energy costs.

[@BIGGlep]

@@nSnowCrow Electricity for gaming is still so cheap, like even 100w of fans running 8 hours a day for a month, which is an unhealthy amount of daily gaming, is like 3-4 dollars a month at 14 cents per kw/hr

[@Yaboyshock]

@@nSnowCrow im in a dorm currently so ill probably end up being more power conscious after moving out and renting an apartment

[@vgamesx1]

@@nSnowCrow The majority of fans only use 1-3W, 10W would be pretty rare for a PC and starts to get into server grade jet engine levels of noise and besides that 10W is nothing, something like $20-30 a year and you probably have a modem / router using more than that running 24/7 already and even using leds, I'm sure your house easily uses 30-50W every night. The typical 100-300W from a GPU alone during gaming will far exceed any concerns over fans...

[@chrisbaker8533]

@@nSnowCrow Don't know where you're located, but the average KW/h rate in the u.s. is 10.42 cents($0.10) Even with 10 fans running full out(100 watts) it would take 10 hours of operations to cost $0.10. Where i'm at, it's about $0.25. And if you think that's bad, let me introduce you to my 6x30W fans in my server.

[@CoalitionGaming]

When these had HDMI inputs, they still retained some kind of usefulness. There were always concepts that companies had shown that even had some of these when a spot for an upgradable desktop class gpu via external facing pcie 16x slot. Those never really saw the light of day though.

[@JeffGeerling]

0:00 Perfectly balanced...

[@Clavinohou]

just like the screwdriver

[@tavishmankash1888]

u saw the video within 1 minute of it getting publishedd??

[@Clavinohou]

@@tavishmankash1888 what

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

...as all things should be.

[@Trifler500]

As someone who works as a Computer Consultant, I see all sorts of people who buy All-In-One computers run into all kinds of problems when anything breaks. Instead of being able to replace just the broken part, you have to throw the whole thing away and buy a new computer. The only things you can replace are the memory and the SSD. Likewise, you can't upgrade to get another couple of years out of it. I've had to tell a number of clients that unfortunately, they have to get a new computer.

[@neuropilot7310]

At least this AIO didn't require an epically insane ordeal to repair after disassembly. Who could forget the infamous $5k iMac repair series.

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

Plus you actually CAN swap out the strorage and ram. Certainly can't do that with any of the macs nowadays.

[@BrawndoQC]

Do you open your monitor?

[@TheoHiggins]

@@BrawndoQC If there was a computer inside I needed to service then I would indeed open my monitor

[@BrawndoQC]

@@TheoHiggins You would never buy an all in one from Apple anyway. We had plenty of HP and Dell AIO at the office and they were terrible to service. We just replaced them.

[@capsulate8642]

@@BrawndoQC Yes, I've swapped the mainboard/PSU in one and taken apart a couple others to minor repairs or salvage parts. Unless space is very tight, the simplest design is the most repairable. Screws, clips, removable boards.

[@hg-ir8tb]

I'm not exactly sure who needs something like this either. If you want portability, get a laptop. If you want something upgradeable, make an SSF DIY. If you want something power efficient, get a MiniPC (like a NUC).

[@nogoat]

The sponsor transition is probably the smoothest transition of all time

[@Therealtoful]

I hate bot comments

[@sixycorn]

True i was impressed

[@DE3P_Beats]

nah he has done better I believe

[@MichaelCH911]

@1 Million With 0 Videos Challenge (day 2) DON'T NEED YOU TO EXIST

[@archangel0041]

@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE sure dude

[@ocudagledam]

Some points I think need to be made: - speccing out and building an actual SFF PC (getting everything to fit and not overheat) is at least one tier above building your own PC in a regular case; Linus did eventually touch this point, but very lightly, personally, I think that it's not for at least 90% of people out there; you could have someone else do it for you, but then it's more cost and there's also a matter of maintaining it. - you measured the performance of your "SFF build" on an open test bench (so, very likely, better thermals, and, not unlikely, better performance than if it were to be run in an actual SFF case); - a gaming oriented SFF PC, as small as it is, is still a decently sized additional box to have around, which may be undesirable for this product's target audience - with an SFF, you would probably have more upgradeability; that said, RAM and storage would likely be at least as painful to upgrade as here; CPU? One of your options would be AM4, which, after many years and generations, is finally approaching EoL; the other option is Intel. So, CPU upgradeability on an SFF is more of a maybe than a yes; also, the future CPU would have to fit not only inside the same socket, but have similar cooling requirements as well; the GPU would be a clear win for the SFF, though (provided that power requirements don't go up significantly). - Why not get a laptop? Well, if you want portability, get one; if you want ergonomics of a proper 32" monitor on a stand and a PC that you will use in your home, then a laptop is not it. This is for people who want an almost proper PC in their home, but have limited space or want something that will fit in their living room. Also, for someone in a small space, at 32", this can double as their TV. Regarding the performance, I agree that 1440p is stretching the hardware, although I would imagine that, at slightly lower settings, the 3060M will be able to push the pixels quickly enough for some time. I have an RX 580 8GB and I recently switched to a 1440p display and I've been pleasantly surprised so far; granted, I haven't tried Cyberpunk, but the likes of, say, AC Valhalla or Stray, not a problem apparently, so I guess that this isn't too bad either. This question is what makes or breaks the system, as a gaming system that can't actually game is a flop, but something that will tear through eSports, with high framerates and has a large HRR display to boot, and that will also do other titles, as long as you're willing to make some compromises (downgrading from very high or ultra settings, using DLSS, accepting that you can enjoy a game without a 60fps lock, which, as someone born in the mid 80s who grew up on a budget I certainly do) is a viable option. It's worth mentioning that all of the alternatives offered in the video either offer similar performance, cost more, or both. It can be argued that a 27" 1080p version may have made more sense. It would have been cheaper and less big, making it more suited at some of the use cases mentioned in the video, and it would allow the GPU to push more frames with higher settings at native res. On the other hand, the 32" do mean that you could seat two people in front of it, each with their own controller, more comfortably than if it were 27", and the same goes for small space, doubling as a TV scenario that I previously mentioned. Overall, I don't think that it's a bad product. Not for everyone for sure, but there are niches within which it makes sense.

[@maxluthor6800]

0:00 Perfectly balanced hiking equipment

[@billmiller4800]

I see the target market as the non-tech mom & dad with 1+ kids aged 8-12 that want to play games and use the internet in the livingroom shared space (to be monitored so they aren't getting into mischief). Bestbuy/Walmart sell tons of this kind of thing, especially where the parents explicitly do NOT want portability for reasons of shared access, hard on devices, etc... and cheaper than something else with a good salesperson/markup behind it

[@delonejuanderer]

I remember the old all in one's especially from HP. It's pretty cool they're now capable to put in essentially a beginner tier gaming pc into these things. And to be fair Tiny Tinas Wonderlands is a very demanding game even on a 3080ti so realistically the performance on this is pretty decent since it's running on high at 1440p on a mobile 3060. Even I game at 4k and scaled down to 1440p for a more consistent 120fps on a mix of medium to very high setting.

[@nevmiku]

It's still a bad performance because it gives lower performance at a higher price point compared to a normal gaming PC. The only thing you'll get here is it's smaller footprint, which is basically negated by how not portable it is, and the fact that the desk has more space than your lap.

[@Szanth]

Uh, I play 1080p with a 1660ti and it's not that demanding.

[@delonejuanderer]

@@Szanth "I play 1080p on a 1660ti" without saying what settings and performance you aren't proving anything. I sure HOPE a 1660ti can play at 1080p.

[@EnigmaticGentleman]

@@nevmiku Not to mention no upgradability. Im fairly sure this is just a scheme to normalize propeitary garbage.

[@delonejuanderer]

@@nevmiku I get that but not entirely my point. If you're in the niche market for something like this it is PRETTY COOL you can fit a beginner tier gaming pc into it. That's my point. Everyone's mother is into these type of computers, REGARDLESS price, ie why MacBooks are so popular, price to performance hwhat? If my mom had ANYTHING like this growing up I'd love to be able to game on it instead of asking her to buy an entirely different pc just for me to game on. I get it, we're all here because building a pc is better in most ways, but conveniencey to older folks that aren't tech savvy? These things are god sent.

[@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718]

This is probably meant for those coffin-sized apartments in Japan that don't have space for a real PC but still want a big screen.

[@sillicon8227]

Man, I was just thinking about how sad everything has gotten and out of nowhere I recive a notification saying "Justify your existence, I'll wait." 💀

[@ThunderDraws]

yikes man, hope you'll feel better about your existence soon 💀

[@DarkestKnightshade]

COPIED

[@sillicon8227]

@@DarkestKnightshade how is this copied? Edit: nvm found a comment posted 3 mins after I posted mine and it has the same text

[@sillicon8227]

@@DarkestKnightshade this is the original, sort by newest and you can see the one with 1k likes is newer than mine

[@sillicon8227]

@@ThunderDraws yeah man, it's fine. I just sometimes wonder what will my future be due to the growing population possibly taking all jobs available by the time I'm 18. I sometimes think about how I'm just a waste of money for my parents because of how much they spend only for me to get average results. Will I even be able to get a job in a world with relentless competition for jobs with just average results? I'm sure it will all work out some way, maybe.

[@ninjaoyourbro1891]

I think Framework should develop all in one cases for their motherboards, if you’d like that for some reason.

[@phuzz00]

They have released a design for 3D printing your own one, along with all the specifications so that a third party could make them.

[@ninjaoyourbro1891]

@@phuzz00 Framework is the best lol

[@__-fm5qv]

An AIO is for someone who wants a large display, good-enough performance, and reduced space on a desk. Every single desktop out there, even the tiny ones, will take up more room than this as this only takes up the room of a monitor. A laptop on the flip-side has a much smaller display, so if you want a proper keyboard or a bigger screen you end up taking up more physical desk space than an AIO.

[@cec4]

but a nuc on the back on a normal monitor will take up as much room, you could argue even less and then you can mount it on a better stand and easaly move it all out of the way

[@ultraL2]

no they don’t, you have the base & behind monitor to store something like a NUC It has the added benefit of being able to upgrade / use monitor separately

[@xXxJakobxXx3]

@@cec4 and the NUC is probably even louder and has less performance.

[@pro100vald]

Speaking of space, this AIO still looks bulky af because of the stand, and you'll get much better looks with any other AIO.

[@abhimaanmayadam5713]

@@ultraL2 Some AIOs have HDMI input (My dad has one that even has composite input) which is nice.

[@TekedixXx]

This could be pretty cool for off-grid or RV applications where you need the power efficiency of the laptop without as many of the issues like batteries being wear items and IO and thermals being limited.

[@thatslegit]

But if the battery goes you can fix it or treat it as a desktop only, no point for a fragile semi portable system when a gaming laptop can be expendable in all fields

[@susnojutsu2525]

@@thatslegit Honestly, I can't see many situations where this product would be used. It takes all the bad parts of desktop, and laptop, and combines it. Hard to move around, have to buy keyboard and mouse, bad thermals, weak laptop parts, poor upgradability, and the list goes on.

[@anothersiguy]

Big props to Colorful for not throwing in e-waste peripherals

[@renealcerro1320]

honestly i have always loved AiO systems, this pc with a 1080p screen would be so much better

[@Maxypad05]

0:00 The ultimate hiking equipment

[@lonergothonline]

we got an old AiO, from a company that no longer needed it, at first the mechanical hard drive and lack of speed running windows 10, turned it into something we would typically put on the e-waste pile.... except after debloating windows 10, removing a bunch of apps, it suddenly got quick enough to not need an SSD. we were planning on just giving it an SSD running windows 7 or something, but ended up using the SSD elsewhere, where it was actually going to be useful in laptops/etc. so the AiO was going to be thrown out again, when another company, unrelated to ours, ended up saying they only really needed a web browser (and monitor), and some form of printer, for their business as a kind of overview display, and to this day I walk past that thing thinking, man that thing is lucky. still works fine, still quick enough, still does everything it needs to, likely won't die anytime soon. I think the biggest point of failure to keep in mind is obviously the power supply, which is HP, and an awkward output at that. they don't make things easy do they. but it is still working after 10 years or so. 10 years. when this thing came out people were still complaining about vista.

[@averymoldovan4488]

Now this is his gaming laptop

[@babaayman9658]

That design has some things going for it. It looks like a Framework project, all in one desktop systems.

[@evifnoskcaj]

I am always in rage mode, so that setting suits me. 💯😂 Also, I love actual jet engines, but I can settle for an imitation.

[@quinton1630]

So weird. I was just on Amazon looking up solar panels and considered buying Jackery for like an hour

[@siddhantmahapatra646]

Boy did that title suddenly appearing in the notification bar made me question my existence for a second there 😅😅🤣🤣

[@FradFish]

These are good for education or enterprise where they can be easily installed and replaced without fiddling around with monitors. I work in a school and AIOs are way more convenient for us when setting up 30+ PCs in a room and can be more cost effective than buying the tower and monitor separately when bulk deals are factored in and taxes can be deducted. This specific example however would likely be for a well funded place for IT or graphics design where more power is required but doesn't need the best of the best. The upgradability also isn't important for schools/ enterprise anyway as old hardware is rarely upgraded and is just thrown out at it's end of life. They are also rarely repaired and faulty or damaged systems are usually just sent back to the supplier with a 3+ year warranty.

[@charioteer3040]

Linus has the new prototype google glasses

[@bobnguyen7296]

More like the new apple glasses

[@DemonicaFGC]

I hope that corsair all in one that was going through the rumor mill ends up good, id love to have one with a 1080p 165hz screen that can run fighting games well

[@SaintCyrX]

This thing somehow reminds me of the styling of the Supergrafx. It is actually kind of ugly for a minimalist all in one, which is an achievement in itself.

[@Epic_OnYTT]

0:30 I knew it

[@TenOfZero1]

I must admit, I love these solar "generators" awesome systems

[@aaron8083]

10:22 I literally just bought that laptop a few months back and the performance is really great, similar to my desktop which has better cooling and somewhat better specs.

[@JoeArant]

"Justify your existence." Linus Philosophy Tips

[@Shire_Sam]

Hmm I see an opportunity! How about if Framework made a standardised AIO chassis like this with a space/module in the back that you can connect framework laptop modules into? Like in a recent video on LTT, they took a module from a framework laptop and put it into a custom case and used it again?

[@lucasgomes6096]

I had a similar thought watching this video. I would love a video trying to fit a framework motherboard into this aio.

[@brianlempa]

When it come to the price difference between a custom build and an AIO id say to remember the "convince tax" of it being an "All in one pre-built" considering that I'd say the price is pretty reasonable All things considered (maybe not against competitors though) The difference between a laptop and an AIO is going to come down to personal preference though... I would personally prefer the AIO over a laptop on a desk as I feel the laptop use to be a bit unconfortable for long use (office work mostly) AIOs are not good nor bad, the value will depend on your specific needs and wants.

[@eduardobarreto5555]

If you can afford the space, a laptop dock is still better than an AIO since you have both a dedicated keyboard and mouse with a large display along with the portability of the laptop. Just plug a single cable and you're good to go, if it also charges your laptop even better because the laptop's charger can stay in your bag instead of having to also move it around every time you want to go with your computer.

[@chipped]

AIO’s are still very popular in the commercial space, think about reception desks and similar.

[@denvera1g1]

You should take a look at the Lenovo Tiny series. Its a small form factor desktop like the Mac Mini. But it has a party trick. You can buy a monitor designed to slip the desktop inside. With a click the computer gets KVM and power from the monitor without cables. Its really only helpful for business as it allows you to have the easy cablemangement of an all in one, but if you want to upgrade or refresh the computer, you just pop it out and take it apart with one screw to add ram, swap the SSD, or upgrade from a Ryzen 3 5350GE, to a 5700G(yes i've tested this to work fine, just turn off AMD PSB so the 5700G is not FPGA fused to that computer), or replace the whole miniPC just by swapping it with another one..

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

Okay that hinge design for the cooling pipes and copper is really damn clever tho

[@BloodAcidPro]

Framework should make an All-In-One. Using laptop parts, with battery.

[@hrishiv]

why does it need a battery?

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I love the idea of a gaming AIO. My work is 100% travel, I live out of hotels most of the time. Something like the old 27" iMac, but with new 3070/6800XT tier internals and halving the Apple tax would be nice.

[@rockinevo]

Anyone else wondering how Linus managed to not drop that contraption at the start?

[@ZS-bg7jo]

He is stapled to it

[@munjee2]

With a little format changing here and there "justify your existence" could be a fun series for the channel

[@Mika-85]

There's actually a market for this. What Linus didn't consider is that the folks that bought iMacs also didn't want laptops. Laptop screens are too small for them, normal desktop PCs are too bulky and have too many cables. They want a large all in one station that can chill on their desk.

[@stuartstogdill2406]

Not even remotely true...

[@SmotheredByLove]

The folks they bought iMacs wanted a desktop Mac. Sure the Mac mini exists, and is a lot more popular now, but for a long time wasn’t nearly as advertised by Apple as it is now (because they didn’t make an Apple branded display) If there was such a market for all in one desktop computers, the market would have expanded a lot more that what it is today.

[@dunkeroni]

I've seen several LTT videos recently saying 32" is too big for 1440p recently, but I've been using that for years and it looks fine. If I lean in close I can see the pixels, sure, but it's a big monitor that looks great at a reasonable distance and at a resolution that can be handled by a GTX 1080 for most games. I probably wouldn't choose the same if I was buying a new monitor today, but I don't feel the need to upgrade any time soon.

[@soulzzz5288]

0:25 girl is girl, boy is boy yes

[@magecu]

The larger monitor and lower resolution is ideal for older people. A 1440p notebook would often get set to 150% or 175% size and would essentially negate a lot of the advantages of the higher pixel density. Also the notebook portability is superfluous for a person that retired and would have the notebook siting on the same desk for years. And the machine being able to play various games is just a plus. Then again there is a great chance that a larger tablet would be more than enough for most of their needs. Maybe it would be a good option for older people that like some light gaming and don't want the hassle of a full blown stationary PC. With an aging population, and PC gaming being over 40 years old that may actually be a sizeable demographics.

[@jjOnceAgain]

Ah yes, a pc with almost all the drawbacks of a gaming laptops, with none of the benefits

[@AaronShenghao]

I think these are targeted small families who don’t have a lot of room. Remember land price is crazy in HongKong, most place in Japan, Shanghai, New York… where you really don’t have a large space for a ATX case. This is still have more screen space than a laptop… so it’s basically competing with iMac. It’s really for the minimalistic style. Some people don’t want a laptop/itx/nuc plus monitor, when AIO like this exist.

[@0hMyGandhi]

5:11 Everyone knows that sound, and it either means something was successfully attached/detached or just broke. I'll never understand why manufacturers have forever bonded two antithetical emotions through a single snapping sound.

[@Rumplestiltzchen]

8:20 Loving that lamp on the right 👍

[@SurgStriker]

I could see it's use in home office, especially for companies sending them to employees for work-from-home stuff. When the pandemic shut down my office so we all had to take home mini PCs to use (couldn't use our own PCs for security purposes), the mini PC was absolute dog-doo. Got so hot even basic programs would hang or crash, and since i had limited space (already had my own home PC, so my desk space was very minimal to add another computer) even the mini PC was awkward to have sitting around. Though, it's a pretty big monitor for space savings. But, for those who work with spreadsheets a lot, that size screen would be useful.

[@DmitryT-f7s]

I think that AIOs can be only useful (in some circumstances) in offices, but for daily use - ewww :/ Laptops or even prebuilds - are way better imo

[@me0262]

The one use I can ever justify for an AIO Desktop is space constraints. I ran one when I was a repair tech at Microcenter when my desk was completely filled with laptops and desktops to be repaired. I would use this as a work computer or daily driver, where I need space, and I don't need horsepower that often.

[@omeysalvi]

I don't trust Linus enough to place that contraption with that expensive computer on his shoulders.

[@TheMacco26]

I own (for my son) a Dell AIO Inspiron 7775, it's some years on its shoulders, it came when Ryzen 1 was born, hence Ryzen 1700 + RX580 + SSD + HDD + 16 GB DDR4 + IR camera. Beautiful 27" 4K HDR (but 60Hz). It's a HDMI pass thru useful for console. It seems that despite almost 4-5 years have passed, no much progrssion has happened in the AIO space. Mine at least had Desktop class CPU+GPU (RX580 is a beast btw). Fan noise might be concern though, it goes thru the roof when forced to do so.

[@seanc8054]

also, "who needs this thing" is a lot of people who just want a tiny footprint on their desk, and not a huge case, on the floor or on the desk, people that just want a sleek, minimal design but they can come home and do some casual gaming and not worry about turning the entire room green and purple flashing light show, i call them classy gamers, gamers who enjoy gaming but dont want all that other bullcrap the gamer comunity cant wait to choke on while it's being shoved down their ape throats. in 20 years these apes will have evolved into classy gamers.

[@fixylieberus2925]

if youre asking what AIO pc's are for, internet Cafe's, quite a lot of IC's on my area uses their own version of AIO's.

[@FSB5847]

I think Linus puts WAAAAAAY too much emphasis on fan noise. I know that myself and many others are running fans or air purifiers at all times with a constant white noise that makes even the loudest computer fans just a drop in the bucket. I totally get that he is a man who likes things as silent as possible but I think your average consumer doesn't really give anywhere near as much of a shit about fan noise as linus does.

[@16bittango86]

You gotta love the fact that the "Buy a Colorful iGame" link in the description leads to an Asus TUF F15 on Newegg

[@MattyEngland]

Justify your screwdriver 🤣👍

[@shoeboxcarnival]

Hey guys, another kind of person buying these might actually be IT departments for their office staff. I work IT for a huge office building and these types of aios are everywhere here. They provide enough computing power for power users and they can't be easily removed/stolen from the office.

[@paulbrooks4395]

After seeing what the Apple SOC can do with its power budget, I’m getting tired of these power and heat raging processors from Intel and GPUs from Nvidia. The companies are creating products that will either underperform, require ridiculous cooling, or make a ton of noise. What is the point? They generate so much heat that they make rooms hot. They consume so much power that they are contributing to global warming rather than helping by becoming more power efficient. AMD’s 4th gen will be able to also use over 200 W at max, and it’s just not worth it any more. This concern with maximum performance at any cost is pushing the problem on to everyone else to figure out how to optimize the products so people can get a decent experience. Why should that be our responsibility?

[@aalluubbaa]

They should build an all in one strictly for competitive gaming. 24 inch 240hz refresh rate with decent cpu and gpu and price it around 1000 dollars.

[@stephaneduhamel7706]

Damn, you guys at LMG keep pushing this narrative against 32" 1440p panels, which is borederline misinformation. If you want a 32" display, you *do not* need to buy a 4K monitor (especially if your PC can't handle doing whatever you do with it at native 4K), 1440p is fine in most use cases and in normal using conditions, especially for watching videos and gaming. If you think 24" 1080p is fine, then you have to agree that 32" 1440p is fine too, since it has the exact same pixel density. I have both a 27" and 32" 1440p monitors, and I honestly can't say that the 27" looks much sharper than the 32" unless I'm looking very closely, or if i try to read very small text.

[@Ziggity]

I mean, you're assuming that 1080p 24'' is fine. I'd say in a world where we're used to the high pixel densities of our phones and laptops, 1080p 24'' already starts looking blurry.

[@stephaneduhamel7706]

@@Ziggity your eyes are also usually placed a lot closer to your phone screen than your computer monitor

[@rynomuncher]

I always thought 24" 1080p looked awful so I absolutely agree that 32" 1440p is just not worth it. My main monitor is a 27" 1440p is just right but I can't wait to get into a 27" 4k

[@stephaneduhamel7706]

@@rynomuncher you must be sitting uncomfortably close to your monitor then, because at this pixel density, there should be no way to distinguish between having a higher resolution monitor and just having anti-aliasing enabled, unless you are less than 95 cm away from your monitor (which is not much IMO, I'm personally about 1.2 m away from my displays)

[@therobb5738]

I built mine out of an Element TV, a Dell Precision 1700's internals, and some super sticky double-sided tape. Works well, looks awesome, no complaints. The chasis fan now draws air out the top vent of the TV, everything just works. Windows 11 doesn't seem to mind, either.

[@ded5351]

Tiny Tina's wonderland representing current AAA titles? I know most of you don't play a lot of games and all but wew

[@JeSuisNerd]

This one is giving me an idea for another video I'd actually like to see: interviewing (and maybe helping pick computers for) the average non-enthusiasts who shop for computers at something like Best Buy. A lot of tech-youtube content is aimed at the enthusiast, and by golly do I have access to so much good information when helping my younger brothers upgrade their gaming PC or what-have-you. But what needs drive the average buyer? What marketing gimmicks are they vulnerable to? I'd like to learn about the technology needs of the Gen-Xers in my life :)

[@kaptmart]

That framework motherboard turning into a Nuc-like PC is so much more interesting than all AIO

[@dogishappy0]

How funny, I told my dad about Jackery yesterday. He wants to go camping but uses a CPAP. I suggested this for him so he could bring his CPAP with him.

[@nxxynx5039]

I can see it's use for internet cafes and convention lan matches

[@MR-vg7yn]

I really don't get Plouffe's issues when taking it apart. Seems fairly straightforward to me? Yes, you have to deal with the screen... it's an AiO, that's the nature of the thing? Having the heatsinks on a hinge so you literally _cannot_ put them on wrong is a pretty neat idea. Probably increased the price noticably, though.

[@mathdantastav2496]

"Most people would not want to use a machine in this way" Linus, u underestimate how many people don't give a shit about noise. I like noise, it muffles my tinitus

[@phychmasher]

6:46 if this thing weren't brand new, imagine how hard it would be to get all of that thermal paste and adhesive up. It certainly wouldn't look very pretty, and you'd probably need to replace the adhesive pads over the VRMs.

[@justsomeguy6474]

I love my Jackery! It runs my NexStar and dew heaters for a week!

[@IyanArisandi]

7:51 yes it beats the igame in term of performance, but what about in term of power usage and noise level (in quiet mode of course). i think the sole reason they use laptop hardware on the inside is for power saving purpose.

[@JH-pe3ro]

VESA-mountable mini PCs basically do the things AIOs do, but are easier to maintain and upgrade. Most of them are hitting a lower spec than this, but the gap is only narrowing as everything converges towards SoC.

[@BlendyStick]

All in one PCs used to be super popular in Japan. Space really is at a premium here so not having to find a space for the tower was a real boon. The segment of the market they occupied has long been taken over by tablets though.

[@nintendork07]

idk why but the phrase "justify your existence" just goes so hard

[@blkspade23]

I've built 2 SFF systems into the Cooolermaster NR200P for people. One had a 5900X, the other a 12600K. Both cool and quiet at max load with a Noctua NH-U12S, and NH-D12L respectively. Neither is used for gaming, but you can even accommodate a triple slot GPU in that case.

[@TheOfficalAndI]

Should have finished the intro joke with: And Baba is You!

[@EggsForDayz]

What does fan speed/sound matter when your wearing headphones with sound effects and music bumpin? Asking for a friend

[@bluephreakr]

An ATX PC with front-facing speakers installed in the bottom fan basement and a display VESA-mounted to the desktop case itself would be pretty much the same thing, paired with a vertical GPU mounted to exhaust heat out the opposite side of the display and you'd basically have what this gives but modular.

[@accidentian]

2:30 The only time Mazepin is featured in a F1 context in 2022.

[@lordhosk]

We bought a HP all in one at best buy for about $600 for our kids to play minecraft on it came with a mouse and keyboard. The cheapest prebuilt PC they had was $899 no mouse keyboard or monitor. The cheapest laptop they had with a screen over 12 inches was $699. The most expensive all in one they had in store at best buy was 999, im sure they have more expensive things online that offer "premiums" and you can get better stats by building it yourself vrs those premium prices, but on a budget, it was a solid inexpensive win 10 computer.