Who The F**k Are These Clowns?!

[@bobbiesnakes]

Not anyone can start a band , name the band the genre that it is, and also be the only band in that genre.

[@napalmsanctuaryx4129]

I don't know. I think Mr Bungle's first album fits in that genre quite nicely. Or would that be clown metal? What do I know.

[@bobbiesnakes]

@@napalmsanctuaryx4129 I agree! I didn’t even think about that but, after you said it, yes.

[@hemmotus]

Primus

[@nomindseye]

Mr Bungle or Primus is not at all in the same genre. Just listen to the music. Clowncore is very jazz when they chill out, neither Bungle or Primus have any real jazz in them. Both are essentially rock bands with experimental side. Clowncore is a half drum and bass, half Death Metal parody. But with a spine of Jazz through it all.

[@bobbiesnakes]

Cool!

[@THarSul]

The existence of smooth jazz implies the existence of rough jazz, clown core appear to be one of the only examples

[@timsession6736]

Louis Cole is an amazing song writer and deserves WAY more attention.

[@everthealtruist]

He's like The Talking Heads, Herbie Hancock, and Gene Krupa in one dude.

[@nedbigby9694]

Agreed. Clowncore, AND KNOWER are amazing. I mean he made a song about butts and tits and money, and it slaps.

[@xenogorwraithblade2538]

The government knows...

[@Callie_Cosmo]

Why does Luis cole matter in this conversation? This is clowncore

[@timsession6736]

@@Callie_Cosmo He's the drummer. Louis Cole and Sam Gendel are the masterminds behind clown core.

[@uncleswan3896]

The van is a 90s Toyota Previa. I saw it parked outside of LodgeRoom in Highland Park Los Angeles when we saw them on 2/18/23. "Honk if you have diarrhea" bumper sticker. Incredible live show.

[@pauldunay7415]

Lucky to say I was there

[@uncleswan3896]

@@pauldunay7415 what a killer show that was. cool room, too. after band on the street added bonus

[@bronsontolliver9027]

Not only are they amazingly technically proficient, but they manage to cram themselves into the strangest places to play this kind of music.

[@Kreedogger]

Porta-potty's are great too I hear.

[@MaxCady7.62]

Imagine hearing that coming out of a random port a potty.

[@CorvidianSystems]

​@@MaxCady7.62that would be easily one of the most exciting moments of my entire life

[@sierrasample8632]

I love that they use their immense talent to create something weird as shit. It's awesome 😎

[@Baribrotzer]

I completely disagree. In the place where they're playing, there is nothing weird at all about shit. In fact, shit is one of the two most normal things to be there. Music, though, music is abnormal in that setting - unless it sounds like a percussionist's wind chimes, or a beginner on the tuba. And these guys don't.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

@@Baribrotzer There is nothing weird about shit. Shit is about as normal as it gets, like breathing, eating, sleeping, drinking water. People who say they don’t give a shit are announcing an intention to die. Let’s hope they change their mind before it’s too late. But I digress. I think it’s fine to call something interesting which has triggered your enthusiasm “weird shit”. But “weird as shit” is just a bad simile. You might as well say something is “weird as the sun rising in the east every morning” or anything else that happens with regularity. We either need a new comparison, or we need to augment the simile. If you don’t mind, I’ll take a whack at it. “Something something weird as shit AFTER I ate and digested a beet, corn, and cyanobacteria casserole.” (I’ve never actually done this-eat a casserole of beets, corn, and cyanobacteria-but I’ll bet money that the resulting shit is weird, especially if you eat the entire casserole.)

[@haroldworthington8952]

@@MarcosElMalo2 Talking shit about shit but incredibly well said. Mind blown 😦 Yet again.

[@OldManBadly]

Thing is, you have to be immensely talented to do it, because otherwise it would be just plain shit. Talented people create weird shit that you want to hear over and over and share with friends.

[@weshugmeyer175]

Yeah amazing timing and musicianship

[@MrTumnus1987]

That second half of Computers tho…..the synth bass & sax is just insanely amazing!

[@MrTumnus1987]

Also Nate Wood literally looks like Jazz Putin!

[@baroquer]

THE most beautiful sax solo I have ever heard

[@hazardeur]

check out z-2 reticuli. thank me later @@baroquer

[@9thplaceprizewinner]

Not to mention Louis is playing the kick with his right foot, hi hat with his left foot, chords with his right hand, then the bassline and snare with his left hand like a fucking one man army.

[@DarrenWaters75]

Clown Core is an amazing gem. It is 100% Louis Cole, his sister has a blog and she spilled the beans. Here is the copy paste: 12.05.2008 Louis Is A Senior! My dear, sweet, tall brother, Louis turned 22 yesterday. And to celebrate, USC's Thornton School of Music held their jazz program's Honors Combo recital. Unfortunately, because I work all the time, I couldn't be there (please don't judge me). But, Good Ol' Reliable Father brought his mp3 recorder, and sent me a tune. It's entitled "When Was the Last Time." Louis wrote the music and lyrics, and played drums. It features Cassie Peterson on Vocals, Adam Bravo on piano, Hans Bernhard on bass, and Sam Gendel and Doug Mosher on horns. I was really impressed-- It's a great tune. It is certainly quite a contrast to Clown Core, which, if you don't already know, is also a Louis creation. I love my brother's musical schizophrenia.

[@CharlieChinchillaTV]

Clowncore is my spotify wrapped most played artist this year louis cole is amazing.

[@ridiculousman1664]

My brother showed me these but didn't tell me there was poop in the music video😂😂😂

[@Matt_in_Texas76]

Mine too!

[@permafrostprod1]

Not my first but was in it too 🤘

[@davehoward22]

Clown core?😅

[@maggiepie8810]

You can already see yours?

[@fullyduff5336]

Aspects of Mr Bungle in there. Another one of the greatest bands of all time....and quite possibly the greatest live spectacle of all time!

[@GizzyDillespee]

And M'lumbo too. Maybe it's M bands....

[@josephkelly4893]

Another in this masked genre is TISM from Australia, check them out people

[@filled_soda]

I've always meant to check out Mr Bungle

[@TheVideoLounge]

I think it's origins may go back to Gong.

[@gregorthomas2236]

@@filled_soda pink cigarette is a peek into their ballad--ey side of things, whereas Squeeze Me Macaroni is a great introduction into their more chaotic sound

[@DaveyL1954]

Aha Mr Hawkins. Here you are appreciating the genius of ClownCore. I'm approaching 70 years old, been a muso all my life, and up to seven years ago was very stale of anything purporting to me music. Then I stumbled across Moonchild, and thus Knower. They're part of the same geographical stable of young guys showing the world that they are brilliant. I saw Knower in Manchester two years ago, and they were brilliant. Then the following year watched Louis Cole do a 90 minute show on his own. Absolutely staggeringly brilliant. And now, just when you think they cannot do anything more wild.....ClownCore comes along and wow, I'm a fan of all these young guys doing what they do. I'm too old to be active on this front, but my goodness me, what a dusting off of my cobwebs there has been in the last few years. Love the channel. You have a great voice man.

[@ericsteinbach7706]

Better late than never Justin! Electronica + Jazz + Death Metal = Clown Core. F'n killer!

[@StereoTyp0]

I'm so happy you have checked out these clowns. I was one of those suggesting it to you and I'm happy you've experienced their irreverent talent.

[@vincewhirlwind68]

I LOVE Clown Core, Knower AND Louis Cole. I saw him with a big band last year in London and it was just transcendental

[@bobbynip66]

I especially loved it when Justin said ‘oh F$#k off with the adverts!’….immediately followed by an advert on Justin’s video 😂

[@matthiasstaber9216]

Well played Mr Hawkins… well played 😂

[@mtsmario]

I have to admit I was never a Darkness fan but I am infatuated with you Justin. You are super talented with a huge appreciation for music. I am a fan now! Keep it up, luv ya buddy.

[@MiataManDan]

I wasn't until I saw them live they're great

[@ericmoody3944]

I absolutely loved 'I believe in a thing called love'.. .

[@juggalonumber27]

@@ericmoody3944 My friends and I used to be able to emulate his falsetto pretty accurately and we all "made fun of" The Darkness until we all fell in love with them, lol.

[@BarrackObamna]

@@juggalonumber27I absolutely LOVE playing that riff but find the song a little corny for my tastes. The falsetto is what gets me, I mean it’s immense talent but I’m a huge eagles fan and hate a lot of their falsetto songs. Still the point is that the guitar riff in that song is absolutely incredible.

[@pclindholm]

Thank you for calling them brilliant and beautiful. There is something amazing about Clowncore where I can't stop listening, just watch in amazement.

[@inputdisrupter101]

Louis Cole is one of those brilliant musicians just hasn't seen their big break yet.

[@Todesnuss]

He's getting there though. He has a lot of fans in the industry. I think he could get just about anyone to work with him at this point.

[@jmckey]

The question is does he ‘want’ it? What we perceive as a big break he may perceive as unwanted attention. Perhaps he’s got exactly the amount of attention and income he wants. After all, if this is him, he’s hidden behind a mask.

[@inputdisrupter101]

@jmckey I honestly do not think you are familiar with the majority of his work with KNOWER and his self-titled work under "Louis Cole". Clown Core is just one project. The guy is a madman musician who is absolutely trying to make his music heard by everyone.

[@jmckey]

@@inputdisrupter101 I know it’s likely Louis. I have tickets to see them in Boston (CC) in Oct. I’m just saying he strikes me as someone that may not necessarily want to ‘blow up’ and be mainstream successful. If he did he would have more mainstream video production aesthetics. Just my take. I could be totally wrong. But take a look at the most viewed Knower video that is in the hallway of some college dorm or whatever and I think you’ll get what I mean.

[@mysteradio]

only mediocre mustards get "big" "breaks"

[@scottiequality1981]

This actually reminds me of Spazz and the chaotic energy of early Power Violence in some ways. Just joyful chaos. Things like this remind me that humans can be truly great. I forget that most days. I love this so much:)

[@cruzmacias3257]

The van was for sale and is sold out on their website.

[@that1monk]

I love Justin's "voice of the detractors" impersonation that he does, usually at the beginning. 🤣❤

[@markgriffiths6988]

I refer to it as the 'slightly miffed at a waiter Mick Jagger.' 'Here, where's my sweet potato fries? And another round of Doombars for the table please.'

[@ethangardner1709]

‘ERE! ‘OW COMES HE’S ____ mister what he’s doing

[@user-bj2lu9qt3o]

I'm here for the 'ere. 🖐

[@user-bj2lu9qt3o]

...oh, and the wet hair.😏

[@damianscott821]

Kenny Everett guaranteed

[@simonhodgetts6530]

Been playing LC’s new album almost continually since it came out. Thanks JH for the introduction!

[@clemcadiddlehopper5706]

I here several Clowncore influences in the songs. He must be a big fan.

[@andybailey97]

At last! Thanks for covering these guys Justin. Knew you'd love 'em. They're a blast of fresh air. Supremely talented but not afraid to be silly.

[@Moss_ink]

When you said F**k off with the ads I got a ad 2 seconds after 😂😂👍🏻 from Christchurch New Zealand 💯🇳🇿

[@xanataph]

I'm glad you like these guys, I found them a couple of years ago. They're awesome! A fair amount of jazz, some grindcore and DNB plus the sound is a little bit lofi. Yet how those components are put together is what makes it unique. And it's the smoothness too, despite the seemingly disparate elements. I don't feel that riffs in this kind of music are very important. It's more about the progressions and how they are decorated - and punctuated.

[@99FXR]

That’s a pretty spot on analysis buddy.

[@intothedepthscoco]

Dear Heathcliff, Amazing video again, waiting on the moors, your Catherine. Yes to Clowncore!

[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

Thank you!

[@brianbauer7560]

New Sub here. Thank you for mentioning Louis. I'd never heard of him before. He's absolutely amazing.

[@Pitbull0669]

AHAHHAHAH OMG I LOVE THESE GUYS About 5 years ago I used to repost that port a potty song all the time ! lol

[@Psychograce93]

I just wanna say that Louis Cole's latest album Quality Over Opinion is superb... I've only come across his music a year or so ago but I adore everything he does

[@dumdees]

Glad you're finally exploring some of Rod Stewart's more experimental back-catalogue Justin.

[@Erika.Villalobos]

Incredible! Thanks for the introduction. Learning about artists new to me is one of the things I love about this channel, Heathcliff

[@teddybears4life240]

Me 2 💗💗

[@parcans]

I freakin' love his cockney "Eh, why is he..." intros. Never change Justin.

[@feebypeels2883]

Louis Cole is incredible.

[@robertcreighton4635]

Can you recommend any albums I can check out?

[@asherter1]

@@robertcreighton4635 His new one is terrific kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIS0aHmfa7ihhZI

[@shiftybat7318]

Yeah, check out Life by his duo project KNOWER. Some ripe bangers on that one. Or any of their apartment live vids on KZbin like Overtime. In terms of singles, Weird Part of the Night, Hanging On, I'm Tight, and Dreaming come to mind

[@c.d7016]

@@shiftybat7318 The Overtime live sesh also has Sam on the saxophone, who is allegedly the other member of Clown Core

[@simonhodgetts6530]

@@c.d7016 the apartment session versions of Overtime and Time Traveller are flippin’ superb!

[@tracyopera5401]

I hear mostly free form jazz.......these guys know what they are doing. They probably all went to music school together and were so happy to find other people that liked the same weird things as themselves

[@mrh4195]

This guy is just the best. I grew up listening to his music and he is just as funny and as quirky, yet genuine as I remember.

[@teddybears4life240]

Thanks!

[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

Thank you!

[@Nomanspie]

They are the real deal. Utter genius. I love this band, been listening to their stuff since I stumbled upon them a few years ago. It's like Mr Bungle mixed with The Locust, with some jazz and drum'n'bass thrown in. Bloody Great. On that note, you should do a video on The Locust.

[@craigstuckey319]

Or Holy Molar!

[@Nomanspie]

@@craigstuckey319 oh god yes! Insane band.

[@matthewmoore7447]

So many people compare them to Mr. Bungle, which is a fair comparison, but you should look at John Zorn--who produced Mr. Bungle's self-titled album--to find a lot more music similar to Clown Core.

[@chad0x]

Thanks for introducing me to this Justin. Incredible!

[@riddic4444444]

I am so happy to hear a musician such as yourself describe these guys as masters. i always get weird looks when i tell people im listening to clowncore....they are so good!

[@livingdown6479]

I'm so happy that you did this video! Thanks Justin!!

[@quickscopeoneeighty9158]

The blend of genres such as Drum & Bass, Techno, Jazz, Death Metal, and rudimentary/ beginner music make clown core's overall presentation fresh and overwhelmingly exciting

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Taylor and Lyons, but in tasty bite size morsels. Clowncore is like a bag of skittles, whereas “Free Jazz” is like trying to deepthroat a sourpatch bowling ball.

[@BarrackObamna]

It’s not metal if there is no guitar.

[@quickscopeoneeighty9158]

Ok

[@TS-ez3rf]

I’m so upset I won’t be able to make it to any of the tour dates they announced.

[@charlesoliver2535]

They speak to something beyond me. I see the masterful musicianship. And, I appreciate the intended oddity.

[@luckyinlondon7436]

Thanks so much Justin ,that track Earth ,it's just off the chart ,unbelievable ,how he can play that rhythm and with his left hand play the bass line ,super talented

[@Terri_MacKay]

"And there's an inflatable penis. I see." I don't know why that had me in tears. 🤣🤣🤣 I can't say that this is in any way my type of music, but one of my favourite things about this channel are all the artists that I've been introduced to, that I would never have found on my own. I'm 60, but will never tire of discovering new (good) music. 😊

[@Llowdar]

"I love how the toilet is in the middle of Knower", J. Hawkins

[@emsedgwick9521]

"Computers" is my personal Favorite! I adore the Breakdown

[@sjukfan]

If it makes me laugh or giggle; I define it as art.

[@hate6crew6death6roll]

if it makes you feel something: its art

[@silverbunny6344]

@@hate6crew6death6roll depression is art, then?

[@hate6crew6death6roll]

@@silverbunny6344 makes you feel something: its art, as i said. if you are depressed by it, you may want to speak to someone about it.

[@zloychechen5150]

The van is a mk1 toyota previa, the famous egg van, it's beautiful. Mid engined, rear wheel drive, optionally all wheel drive, was available in jdm with a supercharger.

[@samuelmosey9182]

Love the channel, Justin. I always sound check with I Believe In A Thing Called Love, and have been following you guys since I was a kid! You should cover Turnstile. They're doing some really cool things in the punk rock-sphere right now and it's truly worth noting!

[@richiedollabillz]

He did one video on blackout already

[@garrybrough72]

love that! thanks for sharing Justin 🙂

[@CathalCots]

Great content as usual! Do Death Grips next, please!

[@Qdobafett]

I gotta say I didn’t realize who Justin was when I found this channel. He is so much more vulnerable and chill than I imagined he’d be.

[@gregcox7347]

Another drummer with skills to do this is Deantoni Parks. Check out his solo stuff, old stuff with Kudu, scoring work with Nicci … and his supergroup of sorts, Bosnian Rainbows. They’d be great for an episode. Would love to see more stuff on Louis, Nate or Vulfpack.

[@ftlbaby]

Thanks for this! Out of the dozen or so musicians and bands mentioned in the comments this is my favorite thus far. Loving Technoself right now...

[@gregcox7347]

@@ftlbaby So nice to get a comment notification on an older post that’s positive, and even better on a shout out to D. Delighted you’re enjoying it!

[@ryanallyear5529]

OMFG Thank you so much for covering these guys! I love them and you! lol

[@foshizol]

For some reason I just want them to be a couple talented humans doing this stuff on their time off from work.

[@davidgomersall7185]

That is pretty much what they are. Random side project from two immensely talented musicians that somehow manages to be utterly deranged yet deliriously good at the same time.

[@common-girl]

I could picture Trent Reznor being a part of this group.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

@@common-girl Reznor was driving.

[@cygnus618]

When I first saw these guys come up in my suggestions feed, I tried to ignore it. It kept coming up in my feed and finally I was like, “Ok, if I watch this will it finally go away?” Then I knew I was going to hate it. I just knew I was going to hate it. 30 seconds in I was completely in love with this band. Just stunningly original and great. Big fan now.

[@martcactus8520]

This music reminds me of being at school in music class before I could play guitar. They'd split us into groups and ask us to compose some music and we could pick some instruments from the cupboard. None of us could play anything so we'd just bang a violin, strum a drumkit and blow into a keyboard and come up with something that sounds similar to this. Very nostalgic listening to this. We were innovators 40 years ahead of our time.

[@eneswk]

things I didn’t know I needed and for sure that I wasn’t expecting I love clown core sooo much

[@daisycrude]

They're musical/comedic geniuses! Glad you've witnessed their glory!

[@KikoBean]

Once somebody said, "the name smooth jazz implies a contrary, rough jazz." Clowncore is rough jazz.

[@mordreddelavirac]

Discovered Clown Core a few months ago, i was fascinated, both Cole and Gendel are true masters and their music sounds like a genius having a maniacal episode.

[@teddybears4life240]

A genius having a MEGA maniacal episode.

[@algernonblackwood1707]

Rare live Clown Core footage without masks! Skip in and start at 3:30 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5Krqp5-h8l9bcU&lc=UgxrzOTXK8OQrHOdQB94AaABAg.9FeWrS92--X9kyc9fLimeI

[@Nil_Echo]

Justin's reaction really shows what makes clowncore so great - they're just so out of what anyone would expect that there's just a feeling of pure joy and discovery at these wild and amazing songs.

[@Tripoutski]

In case your gearhead was still rattling it around, the blue van is a 90's Toyota Previa. I am not as deft on brands of porta potties. This music is truly insanely interesting. Thanks for the introduction.

[@XiomaraThaGoddessMeow]

CC are legends, I remember going down the rabbit hole of their KZbin content, just trying to figure em out lol 🔥💚🔥✨

[@mary-janebelec9082]

Combining virtuosity with bizarre creativity. Bold, defiant & hilariously entertaining.

[@olatortuga4622]

Always thought the Darkness were good fun to listen to but serious respect for covering a band as mental as Clown Core. Would be easy to just go for popular stuff. Want to see you cover stuff from all sorts of genres now as your take on stuff is interesting! :) P.S. CHECK OUT THE ARMED

[@bizsmith99]

Excited to see you covering this, been on a huge Clown Core (and Louis Cole) kick the past few days

[@racoonsftw]

LOL that 'simple riff' that you were talking about is the same as the riff for the breakdown in Korn's "Freak on a Leash". I love how the same notes, in the same order, can be played in so many different ways.

[@johnsiegmund7504]

The minivan is a Toyota Previa!

[@eonhand8]

I've only known clowncore as the meme. The speculative information Hawkins gives led me to a amazing music. Thanks! tmi: I've been auditing my digital music collection. Making decisions on weather to include sub par bands for novelty or nostalgia has got me all turned around. This injection of talent is what I needed.

[@seanbrennan5192]

YEEEEES YOU REVIEWED IT FINALLY!! Louis Cole is one of them for suuure

[@gerhardjasongeick4229]

This is my new favorite video! Thank you for introducing me to Clown Core! At first I was like, WTF is this?!?! But it didn't take long, and my mind was blown!

[@kickaxeguitars]

Justin, you’re a damn treasure. Best channel on here. Cheers to you, brother. Love seeing you talking about Louis Cole as well - also one one my favorites. His talent is truly ‘upper echelon’ as you said. Remarkable musician.

[@acadia5898]

hey Justin, you've been a huge part of my childhood and thank you so much for that. you've learned me to be more comfortable with my own skin, because you seem like that all the time. i always wanted to sing and still do, but i'm the guy who is known for having an annoying talking voice, so even from that discourages me from even thinking about practicing. i play in a band and i'm known as the guy who is multitalented in many ways, but not in singing

[@donzulaica9172]

Former managing editor of a magazine called Drum!, and I love this.

[@peppers776]

Thanks for introducing me JHawk. 😉

[@asjoshas]

The breakdown in computers is beautiful.

[@patriciainportland5567]

Loved this; especially the journalist/music critic commentary. So true...

[@PM-vv3uc]

Great to see you discovering this special band :D I had so many weird feelings when I listened to them the first time. Their video in the van was crazy.

[@crazykano666]

"Fuck off with the adverts will ya" two seconds later I get an ad on this video 😂

[@caprise-music6722]

Never have there been a more appropriate title for a video

[@troubleondemand7703]

I'm late! I love these guys to bits! So happy you got around to them! They're the bees knees! My favorite description of them is: two guys with music degrees and very disappointed parents.

[@thepugilist4379]

Didn’t expect to discover “Clown-Core” while having my coffee this morning. I think I t’s gonna be a good day.

[@martineichholz5189]

Sooo happy you covered them. I'll see them live in LA in February. Am genuinely scared.

[@iamgreen2964]

I'm glad you finaly came to those guys, they're awesome!

[@mozzerianmisanthrope406]

This gives me some hope that the music scene isn't completely dead... yet. Superb idiosyncratic stuff.

[@HighDefBNG]

Thanks Justin, I love it too! Was cool to hear someone with musical knowledge talk about it.

[@Eric_01]

Dude, you're funny. It saddens me that we'll never just hang out and become best friends. We have a lot of the same comedic stylings. I love it.. Too much.

[@marco_cee_]

It is Louis Cole. No question. Not only is the playing a give-away, look at his frame!

[@julie_uk_]

I've never heard these before - effing excellent 👌

[@GoneAsGoneCanBe]

Toyota Previa is the model of the van, here in the states at least, an interesting design as the motor sat between the driver and passenger, which allowed for the long swooping hood/roofline.

[@JoeyJoJoJr0]

Their videos randomly came across my feed a couple of years ago. I couldn't understand it, I couldn't explain it, I don't even know if I liked it; but I also couldn't stop watching their f'd up videos!

[@josephkelly4893]

Interesting key for the introductory Justin Hawkins intro today, was quite pretty, thanks for all you do

[@malcolmfrancis4543]

I love them so much. I think of it as if King Crimson kept progressing.

[@simplyafederalist]

I personally think it's Moon hooch. Their drummer has a very unique style of drumming and posture I have never seen. This drummer totally is the same and its close enough to their style they could totally play this.

[@StudioPractice]

Your channel just pooped up on my Home Screen. I love your music Justin and you’re super funny and insightful on this channel. Amazing channel.

[@gernblanston3363]

Love the part where Justin said "f*** off with the adverts", and then lo and behold what am I redirected to on his video? Yep. 😂

[@NZWozza]

Haha, awesome. Love these guys, Mr Bungle and Igorrr.

[@vvsandgaming4648]

The front teeth of the drummer are quite similar to those of Louis Cole