Peter Hammill- Forsaken Gardens (REACTION & REVIEW)

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Song Link: • Forsaken Gardens (2006...

[@BaldJean]

You summed this song up very nicely, Justin. This is one of the five songs that we think should have been on the "lost" VdGG album from the period between "Pawn Hearts" and "Godbluff". Three of these songs are from "The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage" ("Red Shift", "Forsaken Gardens" and "A Louse is Not a Home"), two are from "Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night" ("Rock and Rôle" and "(In the) Black Room/The Tower"). We call this album "The Silent Corner in the Shadow of the Night".

[@chrisogburn8240]

Agreed, good take on the lyrics. As always.

[@thorwaldspolle7498]

I read somewhere that the working title for that album was "Iceberg".

[@miccarbo7911]

Another song would probably have ended up on that lost VDGG album: 'Roncevaux'. A version of this can be found on 'Time Vaults', a collection of 'lost' VDGG tracks. The recording is in a poor quality, but that song is immense!

[@Warloo100]

The lyrics are magnificient! Thank you so much for reviewing this gem.

[@olemartinsen9733]

I started out with Peter Hammills album OVER , and was blown away! Since then I have bought over 10 of his solo albums. There really are no one like him. Totally unique!

[@williamwilkes9873]

FORSAKEÑ GARDENS/SILENT CORNER & THE EMPTY STAGE.................,please get thése............maybe yoú have....,....,...,

[@markmaxwell1013]

Yes, if you peel back the layers Peter Hammill usually leaves a sense of hope or at least a glimmer of hope in even the most serious subjects. Nice review! Hope you're having fun on your vacation🎷🎹🌴🙂

[@PJprog]

Such a unique talent. So pleased that I'm old enough to remember and appreciate it. Don't get me wrong , as much as I love Peter Gabriel's work , Hammill's work is certainly on a par , and is a genius that the ordinary man on the street has probably never heard of. Lucky us. Amazing. The most similar sounding album to VDGG. Thanks again JP. 😍

[@neilparnell5712]

Very true sir. I have said the much same myself elsewhere. For me, Gabriel paints you a picture to interpret (sometimes more abstract than other's, but always a complete picture). Hammill gives you a 1000 piece jig-saw and puts you the four corner pieces into place as a starting point, but he doesn't tell that there is one piece missing ! I love how Hammill really makes you work for the reward so that when you finally get the finished jig-saw you definitely appreciate the endeavour.

[@jamespaivapaiva4460]

What's under the hat? C'mon what's under the hat? What's under the hat? Oh God, what's under the hat? Under that hat for any sinners seeking pardons, it somewhat resembles 'Forsaken Gardens'! Patchy, bare, and dried up! Peace, till tea-time, when we will all share a cup.

[@robfractal6820]

Wonderful insights

[@mamaloh8165]

Working in a garden is very rewarding - I have one now for the first time since my childhood, and I'm enjoying it tremendously! As it is half wild and half cultivated, there are butterflies swarming now (that need nettles to evolve)... and soon there will be tomatoes - cucumbers already there 😊 Go for it!

[@markmaxwell1013]

So true! Homegrown tomatoes especially!🍅😋🙂

[@Rowenband]

I do the same since 10 years now, and it's really rewarding, but a lot of work when you try not to use chimicals…

[@grantpenton1850]

This was my introduction to Peter Hammill, included on a friend's mix tape back in 1978, and I have been a dedicated fan ever since!

[@Lwize]

Still fun to see PH enjoyment in 2022.

[@haraldtheyounger5504]

Hammill has such an amazing and unique output, My Pulse from Loops & Reels is a must.

[@williamwilkes9873]

You review........as l do,......,l love. & met them.........inbetween Cure,......,.who love vdgg.......you may be stunned john lydon loved peter............simply waffling.........liké yóur taste!

[@palantir135]

Don’t put a lot of grass in your garden. Wild animals, insects and whatever can’t do anything with that stuff. Use plants with flowers that have nectar in them. Leave dead branches etc in a corner in the back of your garden for animals to hide in. Use trees to create shade to cool your house and garden. Use plants that don’t need water every day. Bushes and lower trees for birds to sit, nest and hide in. Don’t use a lot of tiles. Your garden will become much hotter then.

[@maruad7577]

We have had lots of critters in our yard up to and including deer. Personally, though I don't mind the deer, I could do with fewer rabbits and squirrels (the odd one is nice but some days I think they are holding a convention here).

[@Rowenband]

Completely agreed.

[@markspooner1224]

Pretty darned good.

[@Vantyler66]

Had heard the live version on my listens to godbluff and liked it but I love this version. Hammil’s lyrics and delivery are superb.

[@chrisogburn8240]

Bruh, ATV's rock! Thanks for listening to Hammill.

[@nobrains6107]

Nice review. I got this album when it was released, I loved it then and I love it now. I got In Camera when it was released, I hated it then and, tho' I try it again from time to time, I still hate it. It's so odd that most people see them as a matching pair - even the album covers show that they're a contrasting pair. Now I'll have to give In Camera another listen, to see if it's the 'shrieking' Hammill to Silent Corner's melodic one.

[@Lwize]

I bought In Camera back in the 80's, and didn't like it. I revisited the album maybe a year later, and finally got it. It's easily my favourite PH solo album.👍

[@lemming9984]

I love In Camera - though Magog takes a little patience!

[@jameshouston2174]

In camera took multiple listens for me also….altho Again ….Faint heart…and Comet could be on Silent Corner….l have grown to actually like In Camera

[@Eduardo-Ferreira1982]

The flute shifting to sax happens in other songs (oh or vdgg). Once again, never paid the attention that it needed - I get the idea, by listening to it so many times, but now I see clearly what he's saying. Once again, Justin, cause of you. Now let me tell you how clear is what he says: 1 - "life is change / how it differs from the rocks" (always in mind this passage of a Jefferson Airplane song) 2 - life is movement, is interaction 3 - it is the flowing of energies and materials that keep a body alive. So, if we close ourselves we are killing us. Like a closed dam is killing the water it contains. We must keep "water" flowing.

[@DaniloJovem]

I always wondered about the meaning of "green fingers grey"... now i've got it. thanx again justin

[@kenl2091]

Probably a couple of years since I last listened to this and tbh, I wouldn't have had in in a list of favourite PH tracks, but isn't it good? Your assessment is spot-on.

[@koukouvania]

btw what you in US call green thumb we call green fingers in UK

[@koukouvania]

somehow, having known this record since it first came out, i had missed the fact that jaxon is actually emulating birdsong on his sax; maybe its more obvious on the digital remaster; personally i feel he should have got NP in for the bass, is Banton not on this song?

[@jaybird4093]

My garden is my Zen place. I just finished tying a row of tomatoes before I wrote this. I’m a butterfly nerd! 🦋🤓. Be sure to research butterfly host plants to add to your garden when you begin.

[@williamwilkes9873]

I was a 2 week pistol..,..,,l swayed thém,,..........x,......,.....

[@Eduardo-Ferreira1982]

What's the problem with shrieks? Dive in! 😁

[@maruad7577]

I am an oddball but Hamill and VDGG have seldom done much for me. I realize a lot of folks here enjoy them so I am content. I am assuming that atm ogh is enjoying his tropical paradise so continued best wishes to him and his.

[@0Luxis0]

Fucking perfect. You should be more famous.

[@JustJP]

Thats very kind of you Luxis, ty :)

[@jfergs.3302]

This's the Hammill I like. Great tune, nice arrangement and a minimum of shrieking.

[@lemming9984]

I love the shrieking!

[@jfergs.3302]

@@lemming9984 I'm happy for you, but it's certainly not for everyone 🙂

[@markmaxwell1013]

@@lemming9984 Same here obviously! He sings about topics that are so serious they demand some dramatic vocals at times 🎷🙂✌️

[@vdggmouse9512]

Thx for the heads up, Mark. Didn't know JP got to Forsaken Gardens. I'm at work and will listen in about 10 hours. Thx again and I do hope things are well for you. I heard PH had a lengthy hospital stay but he's home now. I've not read anything about what ailed him.

[@jfergs.3302]

@@vdggmouse9512 Mark ? I'm thinking this was mean't for someone else :)

[@-davidolivares]

Not going to say it did nothing for me because it’s still playing in my head. Didn’t looove it but, it was more pleasing than some others. Still too dramatic for my taste, but I can see why some really like this. When I was young, me and a friend raided several gardens in the area. We ate melons and other goodies. I feel bad now and hope I will be forgiven.

[@maruad7577]

Just don't raid my garden. No melons though we will have zucchini and bottleneck squash (first time for this). The edible pod peas are good snacking though.

[@-davidolivares]

@@maruad7577 If they’re gone in the morning, I didn’t do it.

[@maruad7577]

@@-davidolivares The plants are barely an inch tall... you may have to wait a bit before you raid.

[@ExoticS_TM]

Love the content my dude any chance you could react to Matt Finnish Short Note one of my favourite songs and want to see what you and others think

[@williamwilkes9873]

You are into a long rant...........àbout peter....,.,which is excellent..,.,..l left cos of other calls....,...long story cut.....,l know vdgg, Cure, old pistols.......a strange brew.....,......l lové your writing..........l àm will, ñorth london..........sorry, l read some of your things &. líked thém.....,...a kid firstly seeing pete......,..& time flipped. So many àlbums....,.....played on a féw.........stay writing.,.....contacting.....,.¡....…

[@outernothingness1177]

In short: No Man Is A Garden.