Don't Buy The Auto Seiko Sumo! Buy This Instead!

[@EEE_MMM]

I've never understood the hatred for quartz. I have a couple of them and I love the utility, the grab-and-go. I also love mechanical watches, the idea that you have springs and gears moving along as you go through your day really appeals to me in this increasingly digital world. I don't think the love for one excludes love for the other. Great video as always.

[@huckinator]

I don’t know why quartz gets hate either. Considering it’s a huge advancement that caused a 70’s quartz crisis should have more people happy to wear them (especially if you lived through that time). Quartz are nice to have just for a switch up when you don’t feel like winding a watch or letting it run for days knowing you only wore it one day and it’ll have a power reserve for 50+ hours.

[@watchingbrief7072]

Agree. The Seiko quartz watches of the 70-80s were as cutting edge as any piece. Jeweled, built to last and service and beautifully made. This was pre the cheap nasty plastic movements. I have a twin quartz that is thermocompensated and accurate to 15sec a year. At the time in Japan it would cost you a few thousand Oz. It was a luxury buy. Respect!

[@FroschBube]

I don't hate Quartz, I own a couple, I just find mechanical more appealing.

[@Etswe]

No hate. I have 5, but to a collector automatics are more interesting

[@Blue_3rd]

Same here. I love my autos but have several quartz and enjoy them just as much. 👍👍

[@mountainmanwatchreviews8081]

The solar just pushes it over the top. This is all the watch you'd ever need. I used to be an auto snob but more and more I'm loving solar seikos, citizens and casios. Just so nice to never have to set, wind or change a battery.

[@Silver-st2zq]

Same here.

[@andrewwheeler8591]

Fair enough

[@kesfitzgerald1084]

I enjoy mechanical watches but as I am lucky to be able to have a modest collection, not exclusively. Quartz have their place and there are some beautiful pieces about. Honestly by being blind to quartz as a category you will miss out on the whole other world of horology.

[@larrydunn4626]

I am over quartz. I've had four quartz watches (Seiko, Citizen, and a mountaineering watch whose name escapes me) and one mechanical auto -- a used Rolex datejust from the 1970s over the past 30 years. On the mountaineering you use a nickel to twist off the batter cover, but I stripped it out. The others I'd have to take to a jeweler (try to find a watch shop these days), and $15 or $20 and the time to do a roundtrip to drop off and pick up is just too irritating. Have never spent a dime on the Rolex over all these years, nor had to make battery replacement trips. So my last two watches have been mechanical automatics. I'd be OK with a ten year battery... a combination battery/solar, but that's about it.

[@pranavkamath4329]

@@larrydunn4626 I’ve got maybe 7 quartz watches and a few dozen mechanical. Between a fine screwdriver set and a swiss army knife I’ve never had to pay anyone to swap batteries

[@birdytiger]

I have a uniform wares overpriced quartz, but absolutely love it. 2 hand, beyond minimal. Admittedly stupid.

[@pacovl46]

That totally depends on how you look at watches. Yeah, quartz does have its place in the world of horology, no doubt about it. Quartz watches can do stuff that mechanical watches can’t, no doubt about that, too, but a quartz watch in my opinion is just that - a watch, while a mechanical watch even in its simplest form is a piece of art. Making a hundred or more pieces come together to work precise is not an easy feat and I’m talking about the days of yonder when all watches were completely handmade, which nowadays is reserved to some of the luxury brands. The way some mechanical movements look due to their decoration is just mind blowing. Take the back off a quartz watch on the other hand and it’s the exact opposite of a stunner. I acknowledge the existence of quartz watches and I acknowledge their place in horology, but they’re definitely not for me! I prefer a proper mechanical watch over a quartz one any time of the day and to say I’m missing out because I don’t get into them isn’t true either. That’s like saying you’re missing out in the world of fruit because you don’t like oranges. What advantage would eating an orange bring me, if I don’t like the taste?! I know what quartz watches can do, but I don’t need them apart from the countdown function when I cook, for that I use the quartz watch in my mobile phone, but even that could be replaced by a mechanical one, if I wanted to, but I’m not that anal about it. 🙂 I’m also not a fan of single use batteries. The only watch that is part quartz that I’d actually like to own is one with a spring drive movement, which in my opinion is the first new technology to power a watch since the dawn of quartz.

[@varanid9]

@@pacovl46 With modern computerized production methods, it doesn't require "artists" to make a very precise mechanical watch any more. Why do you think Seiko Turtles and Samurais are so cheap? And, yes, they'll last just as long as a Rolex; I've had both.

[@mutolo1990]

Some of the watch snobs hating quartz movements on seikos will still bend over for a g shock or a casio. Maybe it's the price difference? Plus I don't really count solar modules as quartz - more like quartz 2.0 or quartz +

[@stevenkelby2169]

Casio have never made a mechanical watch. If you want a tough watch, there's no competition.

[@philspencelayh5464]

I dont know that many people actually hate quartz. I have one that gets used for sailing. It works but is not interesting I'll probably get another when its done (they definitely don't last like mechanicals in my experience ) but one at a time is enough.

[@mutolo1990]

@@rw2266 perhaps I was a little harsh! After all watches can be such a marmite topic

[@antoniotula262]

Like most of us here, I have mechanical, G-Shock, Solar & regular quartz. Love em all, but I must admit my favorites are Citizen Promasters (1 on diver strap, other on bracelet). They just run & need nothing, look great, great lume. Maybe some find that boring bcz no need to tinker with them. I do understand this as I love setting & winding my mechanicals. That's why it's good to experience them all.

[@Zundfolge]

I flatly do not understand the love of the G-Shock or other Casio digital watches amongst watch enthusiasts ... I assume it must be some sort of weird nostalgia thing (and I'm a little older than these typical G-Shock lovers, so maybe its a generational thing).

[@docswatchbox8321]

Coke or Pepsi, Quartz or Automatic, Star Wars or Star Trek. It’s always there for people to argue about. Some of us are content with loving both. That’s why I dig your channel, brother.

[@manoflego123]

I can tell I'm too into this hobby when my first thought to your comment was "what's a Coke bezel?"

[@birdytiger]

More find of the root beer bezel myself lol

[@blackdragon44]

Neither, both, both

[@oliverfasola19]

Quartz or auto? Grand Seiko: yes

[@frankgerace5997]

When I first started collecting watches, I was an auto snob. I still like automatic watches, and manual-wind mechanicals, but I’ve wised up. G-Shocks converted me, and I’m now a quartz watch fan too!! I’m in radio, and one of the cool parts about a quartz digital watch (this also applies to mechanicals and Ana-digis made to be anti-magnetic) is that I can spend hours working around speakers, transmitters and other equipment without worrying about my watch getting magnetized, so now I’ll buy a mechanical or a quartz, as long as I like the look and features of the watch.

[@matthewgurlitz3514]

Vinyl vs. CDs is a great analogy! I've never heard anyone put it that way before.

[@macblack82]

Always nice having a quartz in the collection. Sometimes you don’t want to have to worry about setting the time or date, you just want to pick something up that you know is already set and ready to go.

[@asamisato876]

When I first got into watches, everyone around me said dont buy quartz ugh buy a mechanical! And I've purchased zero quartz till last year and wow it's a life changer! I love my quartz pieces as much as my mechanicals and couldn't be happier with what I have

[@Olddirtytiger]

"everytime i think i'm out they pull me back in" Jody's relationship with Seiko 😂😂

[@olivergoldvalente]

Yeah I thought he was stopping reviews of Seiko watches.

[@StrawNonHuman]

Did jody ever explain it? I don't think I was able to catch it?

[@andrea81]

He said he would stop to review EXPENSIVE Seikos.

[@thaumaturgeishere331]

I have both, including a Grand Seiko spring drive. All great watches but the quartz ones are remarkably accurate.

[@seannew8930]

Jody saying “no more seiko”: 🖐 Jody seeing a great deal: 🖖

[@m47r1m]

I love my Citizen Nighthawk as a quick grab and go beater. My only issue with quartz is the price. Around 300-400 is where I draw the line. Beyond that, I would rather get an automatic.

[@chillwill120]

Why? Automatic is not inherently more expensive. You can buy a crappy $30 automatic made in China, just like you can buy a crappy $30 quartz made in China. Or you can buy a beautifully finished, high quality quartz that will last a lifetime for thousands, just like you can buy a high end mechanical for thousands. One is not inherently more expensive or valuable than the other. What matters is the quality and finishing etc.

[@manoflego123]

The price and complexity of mechanical scales up way faster than quartz, so I hear you. The exception I can think of is something like the G-Shock Frogman watches, which are around 500 or above but are basically the pinnacle of tool watches due to the features and durability.

[@donquique1]

@@manoflego123 you will not find a fake eco drive anywhere others than the easy spotavle ones on wish. Now for rolex.... i would take my blue angel as an end of the world watch versus any mechanical.

[@bingogarvin2924]

Thanks for your time 🕥, I am into automatic watches,gears😍, accidentally bought a Seiko kinetic, rotor spun when I shook it,was bummed gave it to my 😺 cat, now I love it,shake once a day,super accurate,set other watches by it

[@chillwill120]

When it comes to Seiko, I only buy quartz. I have not had good experiences with 6r and other Seiko movements, but the quartz are great and more affordable.

[@GODSPEEDseven]

I'm really liking the V157 movement in the Seiko Solars. No bouncing ticks and so far, on both I have, second hits every marker on the chapters.

[@snacklofter]

Thank you Jody - Seiko quartz watches are really growing on me - having a lot of automatics, they look after themselves and are great to just grab and go! atb snack.

[@BobMarley-pm1xb]

I have a 70’s vintage Seiko Hybrid:Analog dial with a function screen on top…Chrono, Alarm, Day/Date, Digital Time Display. The screen is very weak but she still runs. And a Seiko tri-compax super chronograph from the mid 80’s. Runs like a dream and beyond belief accurate….37 years later. Quartz rocks !! Great review as always Jody. But man, that worthless 24 hour sub dial…..just as easy to put in a 12 hour totalizer. I’ve seen those for

[@richardstorer-adam7222]

I am loving the quartz. I am getting sick of adjusting the autos in my collection twice a week.

[@Arthurzeiro]

"Quartz has no soul" wrote the person on his computer instead of using a typewriter with paper and sending the message through carrier pigeon. Edit: Carburettors vs Electronic Fuel Injection is the ultimate analog to Mechanical vs Quartz.

[@mattewj1268]

Yes that analogy is accurate.

[@NathanChisholm041]

I saw a hipster at a cafe the other day with a typewriter and a battery powerd record player on his table! I kid you not. ;-)

[@ohmyquarz]

@@cosmicenforcer2534 There are quartz watches that would surprise you. Take a look at the Mondaine Stop2Go or the Bulova Moonwatch.

[@gynechiatrist]

Solar quartz is a whole burger thing. No back to pop and no gaskets to grind. The window ledge by my desk always has one. And I have never had one stop functioning. And crazy accurate. And I love my perpetual calendars. And yes, some guys rock a big Sumo. Thanks.

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

I though Seiko’s were banned on this channel now Jody?!?!?!;) it’s a cool watch!

[@scbr2458]

Seiko watches costing more than $1000 *

[@gnarl12]

Ahahah

[@NathanChisholm041]

@@scbr2458 If you payed more than a grand for this you're drunk!!

[@benburgess9428]

I’m an Ani-Digi freak, so I’m rather bound to quartz movements. I do own one hand-wind watch, but I mostly just give it a wind every once in a while to watch the little springs and gears dance in perfect harmony. I think mechanical movements are mesmerizing to look at, but as far as actual timekeeping I’m sticking to my Quartz pieces.

[@OFD]

Excellent video!! I LOVE QUARTZ WATCHES!! Started my watch adventure in '82 with my 7548 quartz. Still running perfectly today with 1 service and a handful of battery change. Thanks for this video man!! Love that solar chronograph 🔥💯

[@Brajin1]

Huge fan of the sumo. I purchased the green 3rd gen. Ended up modding with ceramic bezel insert and Strapcode bracelets. I likely would have given a solid look if the solar sumo was out there without the chrono module.

[@guymcredmond6463]

I bought a Seiko Solar Quartz SSC019P1. I liked the look, chronograph, pepsi bezel etc, so I didn't care that it was Quartz. Aside from really liking the look if it, and the specs, I can use it to set the time on all my other Autos when they run out of juice, as it's fantastically accurate! I do prefer the kind of tactile feel you get with automatic or mechanical watches. So I prefer them. But athletically wise, and functionality wise, if another Seiko Solar Quartz takes my fancy, I wouldn't gave any hesitation buying it. I also really love my Casio World Time. No doubt quartz watches still certainly have a place.

[@ams914]

If you think about what a watch is SUPPOSED to do, which is tell the time reliably and accurately with minimal fuss, it's hard to compete with solar quartz watches. I love the Citizen Skyhawk for that reason. Citizen Eco-drives in general are amazing, and the seconds hit the markers.

[@wintermute8315]

Who says that's what a watch is supposed to do, though? I could just as easily say a watch is supposed to look good on your wrist, or make you feel something when you look at it. To be a masculine stand-in for jewellery. They're not just about the time, are they.

[@psyteo3130]

@@wintermute8315 seiko 6r automatics are terrible. They range from -20 - +30/day and even more for some people. They can’t get the basic function of a watch right as of yet..

[@johnsrabe]

9:45 Jody, the international rules of audio production require that when you go back in time you add echo AND a harp gliss. We’ll let it slide this time.

[@luykenstouten1145]

More food for thought… 🤔 I’ve got some Promaster Eco-drives in the collection that have been my grab-and-go’s for years now, and compared to them I couldn’t agree more that the solar cells could have been better integrated on this Seiko. But still, at that price… Thank you for the review! ⭐️👊🏻

[@fredoakes7441]

I'm 62 and I have never owned a quartz watch. Timex in 1966 my first wind up to a Oris Aquis cal 400 I just aquired, I just love the mechanics of a mechanical movement watch.

[@raymondrichardson6061]

Good compromise would be a Solar 3 handed Sumo. I would buy that, if the alignment was okay. Needs a ceramic bezel, and a glide lock, to be a real winner.

[@StrawNonHuman]

Soooooo. An homage then? HAHA

[@raymondrichardson6061]

@@StrawNonHuman sharp :) An alternative, perhaps. Could be a debate. Should they release all of their models, with quartz / mechanical alernatives ? Hasnt done the Tuna any harm

[@StrawNonHuman]

@@raymondrichardson6061 trueee. I personally woud want a seiko quartz variant for some of the watches. But the thing is, Citizen comparatively makes better solar quartz watches so it may not be a lucrative venture for seiko

[@nimmichagger165]

Regardless of how good a deal it is, you can’t escape the fact that the dial is an absolute mess. Not for me.

[@traviswalker8933]

Doesn't look that messy to me.

[@damyr]

I mean, that's just a wrong comparison, because every chronograph has a messy dial. That's why I would never consider to buy one.

[@traviswalker8933]

@@damyr it has to display timing data, so that's a given

[@nimmichagger165]

@@damyr Not necessarily - Rolex, Tudor, Zenith all make good looking chronos that look tidy, symmetrical and balanced. On this, the way they’ve hacked into the 4 o’clock index to put in the date window just looks lazy and an afterthought.

[@mattewj1268]

Yea it's a shambles.

[@jasonn.1132]

I think if someone has a super busy life then quartz or solar watches are a perfect choice. The dial is a bit busy. If there was some color gradient between the dial, bezel, or sub-dials, then maybe it wouldn't be obvious. Great video Jody! Thanks!

[@JS-ev4xc]

I rem 3-4 yrs back I came across this series Pepsi color in a local mall, the shop has both guarantee and non-gurantee set. The latter costed only S$240 or A$240. I think Prospex logo was still not introduced for this model and was hardlex though.Those were the days, when SKX was on the rage, only 3-4yrs ago! Seiko what hv u done!

[@LaberintoAzul]

I have the first generation has SOLAR in stead of Prospex. I had have it for 4 years and I beat it hard. No one regret, great lume , but. Price today is out of hand.

[@NathanChisholm041]

I love the Prospex X

[@JS-ev4xc]

@@NathanChisholm041 my bad, edited to Prospex. I kept remembering professional specification when I m typing Prospex which is what it wants to mean, leading to typo. c",)

[@garymorrison277]

I've just bought my first Seiko, this one but with the blue face and black silicone strap for £275 UK pounds that's equal to 480 Australian dollars, on sale at half price and yes, I'll be sourcing a stainless steel strap soon just to swap it out when I feel like it.

[@davidrosenblum2178]

I have a Seiko Mecaquartz chrono, the retro Recraft style, and think it's great. Because it has the tachymeter chapter ring and no rotating bezel I don't have to concern myself with misalignment issues, at least not in that regard. Wish it were possible to set the 24-hour subdial separately to have a second time zone but otherwise it's a reliable and accurate movement. Cheers mate!

[@jrgdrumsandwatches]

I had one of these and loved it but the printing was off, didn't match the indices. Apart from that I love the mecaquartz movements, very accurate, set it and don't think about it untill it needs a battery change every 2-3 years.

[@mattewj1268]

That sounds very cool, I will have to look it up.

[@chriscon8463]

I just purchased a 37mm Citizen Eco Drive field watch after only wearing autos for years. I don’t think I’d like a quartz that uses a battery, but solar is pretty awesome! I’m really liking the dimensions, weight, & ease of use of this watch.

[@musoman]

I have an equal amount of quartz to analogue watches, my most recent purchase was a MWC ‘Dirty Dozen’ a 36mm homage with broad arrow and running seconds - i’m in love! It’s a fantastic wee watch with 100m water resistance and great lume. Had to dye the skin coloured strap with some brown wood stain, but besides that, it’s fantastic. Keep up the good work amigo.

[@cinemaipswich4636]

I received the Auto for my 21st birthday. I'm 66 now. Still works a treat, with only one service (last year). No water ingress ever.

[@forrest225]

Quartz certainly has its advantages. Both of my work watches are solar and atomic g-shocks. Never any worries about winding or the time being off, nor worries about magnetization or other damage. I wear my square most ofbthe time, but the range man comes out once or twice a month.

[@RJ-cq8dd]

Quartz is amazing. I checked the accuracy of my solar Casio Oceanus by turning off mb6 and bluetooth synchronizing. After 10 days it still is exactly on atomic time.

[@chasp_0784]

More quartz vicar? Indeed sir. Just got a 38mm solar prospex on my wrist, love the grab and go aspect of it. Having a day/date is the easiest way to get ignored when I’m in a hurry 😂

[@endlessrage4062]

Just bought one new, in blue, on a rubber strap for £260 so I’m pretty well chuffed. Thanks for helping me decide to go for it once found. 👍🏽👍🏽

[@Dicey151]

That T-shirt? Speedball 2? Brings back memories…”Ice Cream, Ice Cream.”

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Hahahaha! Loved that game so much.

[@jonnyholmes5580]

Yes!

[@Dicey151]

@@JustOneMoreWatch 1990… wow I was 12

[@MC-yh9bw]

Dam, good pick up. I couldn't remember where I knew those faces. Loved that game.

[@prefectionist]

Best shirt yet! Touchdown!

[@carlobighouse5434]

Love the topic. Never gonna be a fan of quartz unless it's under 100 bucks. The love of mechanical inner workings is just part of the interest in this hobby for many of us. Still watched the video to keep an open mind.. Cheers!

[@michaelkeefer4293]

I enjoy vinyl and CDs as well as automatic and quartz watches! I like retro but embrace the modern also for practicality. Great review, keep up the good work!

[@mrmyc0rn840]

Considering the efforts and expense watch makers, including the likes of Rolex, went through to develop quartz movements, it's obvious that at the time, they recognized it as the superior technology, which would logically be in highest demand. Yet here we are today, with many still preferring a mechanical movement, and willing to pay a steep premium for it; even though we know mechanicals are less accurate, more fragile, and higher maintenance. Go figure.

[@saairgunner5925]

I wish Seiko would make a Kinetic mechaquartz chronograph. My main concern with quartz watches is having to open the back to replace the battery, potentially losing water resistance. Solar solves this problem, but I suspect solar-power doesn't have sufficient torque to drive a mechaquartz movement. I think a Kinetic will have sufficient torque, quartz accuracy, no need to change the battery. It is also relatively inexpensive and I love the mechanical feel of a Kinetic. Come on Seiko!

[@victorutomo7244]

I have the blue one. Other than the marker at 4, I don't like the dial. It's so different with what Seiko usually does. I guess the solar movement is the cause. But, it ticks everything that I want, big brand, solar, complication. When it comes in Seiko Sumo case at reasonable price, it is a BIG bonus.

[@markbyrum4743]

I've established "detente" re quartz recently, starting when I purchased an LL Bean quartz field watch with gift certificates (quartz is all they sell these days). I go over it because of the Tritium hands and markers. Then I won an eBay auction for a Gekota quartz watch by mistake (thought it was a mechanical watch). So now I'm over it. Still prefer mechanical, but quartz is okay too. Good vid. Keep at it!

[@markiangooley]

For ten years I’ve worn a solar-powered radio-sync Citizen, H145 movement if you can call it a movement. No battery, almost always changes to and from DST even though I’m in a fringe reception area for WWVB (U. S. time signal station in Colorado). US$300 in 2012 though $400 list. Almost always within a second of official time. Sapphire crystal. Fairly easy to change to a different time zone. Syncs to German station when I’m in Europe. It’s all about practicality. Recently I’ve started buying other watches for fun, but nothing I own is better. I got a Swiss watch with thermocompensated quartz PreciDrive innards, and so far it’s keeping within its rated ten seconds a year - but I still have to adjust date and time manually. I’m lazy! With an automatic I’d have more worries…

[@redboxfile100]

Quartz every time, unless you wear a mechanical watch daily you have to manually date set and wind them. the last two mechanical watches I owned both suffered damaged gears due to manually winding which cost on average £200 to fix - both have now been sold. (Sellita SW200 movements need I say more). I now have an Oris with a Barrington watch winder to wind it gently and for my daily I have just bought a Tissot PRX quartz and I love it. For the money and for the running costs - Quartz all the way. Oh and my Eterna Kontiki bought in '91 has been faultless and worn daily at work since purchased need I say more.

[@marcgoulding5230]

I don't get the knee-jerk over quartz either! I mostly have autos, but also a bunch of quartz and a couple of digi Casios. They're all great in my eyes.

[@BourbonDrinker]

My two most loved watches I have had were a quartz Victorinox and a Citizen eco-drive. The Citizen was my engagement gift. I paid $3000 for a diamond ring for my wife and she bought me a $300 watch. Seems fair.

[@CS-wo5hd]

This Chronograph reminds me of the Tissot Seastar 1000 Chronograph I purchased a couple years ago. A great alternative to this divers Chronograph. It's Quartz and it's in my top 4 favorites in my collection (that includes both autos and quartz). Beautiful, functional, and has gained half a second between daylight savings time settings. And yes, I do actually snorkle with it. I can't wait to go diving with it!

[@jeditrek]

Great looking Seiko Sumo Chrono. I love the Sumo case and build quality. Such a great price too!

[@brentwoods7450]

Jody I bought a old Prospex divers chrono this year, and I didn't think I would enjoy as much as I have. My first quartz in many years

[@TheEverseer]

For me I find its a 'Mood' thing. I do prefer the gentler movement of seconds hand of a mechanical watch over the 'tick tick tick' staccato of the quartz. I also think that as quartz became the 'cheap' watch movement, it kind of sullied them with market saturation as every $2 watch was quartz run and it made quartz feel cheap and devalued. That being said I do think that Casio do make really nice quartz movements and the price point and quality control are top notch. I made the 'mistake' of getting my first 2 Casio's last year lol... I am glad I got them as they really are nice time pieces, but I guess I did not need a new avenue for collecting!

[@james241ish]

I agree with 'sullied'. They are good in a way and I have a few of them but now I have got in to autos they just don't seem as fun. Autos are like having a pet that loves you if you look after them, quartz don't care 😝

[@defender1006]

Yes, it's very much a 'mood thing' for me, if I'm going to work then it's a G-Shock, no question unless I'm on a training course or in for a meeting, other wise it's a G-Shock as I know we'll come home in GWO! When I'm at home then it depends on what I'm doing, where I'm going and how I'm feeling, I would say that Casio, Citizen and Seiko have made some truly great quartz watches, I have some others too, but they have really made the quartz watch work especially with solar charging and 'time syncing' etc. Surely ultimate accuracy is what we want?

[@mhenrique4860]

The problem is that today also mechanical watches are on the same trend of cheap movements... congrats china

[@NathanChisholm041]

I was the same until i got off my high horse regarding the romance off mechanical watches and saw the reality of Quartz being superior in some ways!

[@mhenrique4860]

@@NathanChisholm041 the good thing with quartz it is that you can take out of your arm and continues to keep time, this is luxury... I would love that rolex could make oysterquartz again.. a real quality quartz is better than a mechanical one for sure

[@oliverwiantrmerholme112]

I am coming back around to quartz! I think that the reason a lot of people are opposed to quartz is because of the abundance of over-priced, under spec'ed quartz watches out there. I wish there were more manufacturers using slightly higher quality, jewelled quartz movements out there - for me the ability to have a durable quartz watch serviced would make it so much more attractive! :D

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

I'm definitely coming back to it as well mate.

[@Zephyrdaze1819]

Highly recommend looking at the Casio Oceanus line. Great value.

[@Capnblinski]

Great channel great presentations. 🙂 Just ordered an 807 Japan with that gorgeous green dial.

[@fungus70]

Cool....I have that too.

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

Dump the 12/24 register, move the chrono minutes to the 3 o'clock, date moved to 6 o'clock. Make it a bi-compax, lose the clutter and it'd be 10x better.

[@carlosmobellan9443]

This!

[@Ecoat65]

In reality, if I just wanted to tell the time and date I'd look at my smart phone. A mechanical watch is more than just telling the time. I also like the idea of never wondering what day the battery will die. This is also why I like the idea of Eco-Drive watches.

[@owengoodspeed5763]

I enjoy mechanical watches but for a practical dive watch the fewer times the crown has to be unscrewed for adjustment or winding the better, so it would be very hard to argue against a solar powered quartz movement if this is to be a "tool watch".

[@neilba1]

This is a Solar though to be fair. Almost in a category of their own in my opinion. I have the dark blue 42mm Promaster (which is solar powered)...and I use it a lot and enjoy it a lot. 25 year life span...and never a new battery needed. I rate solar watches...even though most of mine are auto's.

[@JD-wi5zd]

Agreed on that chopped off index. If they had moved the date to more like 4:30, they wouldn't have had to do that. But I'm guessing that's the way the movement lined up. If I was designing that watch, I would have put rectangular indices (bars) on it instead of circles, and it would have fit.

[@clontstable1]

The only problem I’ve ever had with Quartz is the 3-5 year battery change, but Solar has mostly solved that problem.

[@gamesetmatt23]

Why is it that you can buy quartz wall clocks with sweeping seconds hands on the cheap, but it's incredibly rare to find a quartz watch with this feature?? (Not counting chrono seconds hands) This would make quartz watches a lot more attractive to me... I hate a ticking hand missing the markers.

[@janiniinivirta2474]

i have been wondering the same thing.

[@jerryglasses2229]

My understanding is that sweeping seconds use more battery life. Wall clocks aren't a problem because they have easy to change large batteries

[@richardshaw1968]

@@janiniinivirta2474 it’s down to power consumption

[@gamesetmatt23]

@@jerryglasses2229 I feel like we should have advanced far enough along with battery technology to overcome this by now. And I don't mind changing the battery, what? Once a year? Every 6 months, even? If it means I don't have to look at a dodgy ticking hand.

[@bboooobbyy]

@@gamesetmatt23 There's also the fact that a preference for sweeping seconds is far from universal. And there is utility to being able to.count out each distinct second as they happen. So it's not simply a technical/power consumption issue

[@mattede8744]

As a person who has had Seiko dive watches ever since I left school and used them surfing, snorkelling and swimming, the one thing I didn't need to know, was the days date. I wish they would make a series of dive watches without date windows. My first and favourite is my quartz 7548-7000. I still use it and I can put it in a draw for a couple of months, come back and only have to change the bloody date.

[@mmcallery]

I love a good quartz, my Seiko darth tuna hasn't lost any time since I set it 3 weeks ago. super accurate and super tough, for a tool watch it just makes more sense.

[@manoflego123]

I have no problem with quartz, the majority of my collection is Casio in fact, but I don't like contributing to battery waste when I can avoid it. Solar/Eco-Drive and Kinetic quartz watches I love for this reason, plus I'd love to one day own a Seiko Spring Drive or Citizen 0100 movement watch.

[@loganoftherockies9453]

Thanks Jody for giving this wonderful watch some love, totally agree with you. These solar quartz imho have the best of both worlds in terms of accuracy and no frequent battery changes, plus tons of value bc they don't have the same prestige premium as similarly spec'd autos. I bought the blue dial version of this, SSC759J1, which is also sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel. My only complaint was the silicon strap (and am in that "Seiko needs to step up their straps and bracelets" camp), so I put mine on an orange rubber Strapcode to make it pop like crazy as a fun watch. The case shape is a little different than the auto Sumo, so also haven't been able to find a nice stainless bracelet except for straight end link. As for wrist size, I'm a 6.75 inches tops and this watch actually doesn't feel the least bit big. The lugs curve down so smoothly it's really not an issue at all. In fact, had I not looked up specs, I'd have guessed it was more like a 48-49 mm lug to lug, and didn't notice it feeling any bigger than my Turtle.

[@DancingSpacePotato]

Catch me grooving to the intro at 6:45a. I definitely prefer mechanical watches, but I own quartz watches and wear them often.

[@timefliesby-jleo474]

Love the fact that its solar at least! That way the caseback does not need to be removed to change the battery and affect the water resistance!!

[@georgemathai1014]

Saw this for an amazing discount here in Dubai - saw your video to ensure it was a good watch to have. Thanks for the video and honest thoughts.

[@Mike-kr9ys]

I like quartz watches, I cannot lie...I also like autos. Chronographs are ok, but tend to be too busy for me. Smart watches? Bah! But I luv me some SOLAR POWER! Currently have a Casio, a Citizen, & a Yelang (Ali Express)(w/Tritium!) that are solar powered. I love that simplicity & ease of use. Solar on, my Aussie Brother!

[@Kasaner]

that voice over when talking about the dial on the mechanical was hilarious. you are a comedian at heart sir. I come for the watches but stay for the laughs

[@jsg199]

Thanks, Jodie, for calling out mechanical snobs. Wish there were more high quality quartz watches with great design. Quartz is cheap and more accurate - why is that bad!?

[@graemecreegan6749]

Would love a quartz sumo just as much as an auto. However I strongly prefer the non-chrono dial. This is just too busy 😕

[@chrisgravel7157]

Sumo is sooo ready for a proper bloody bracelet with a milled clasp and end links that fit flush/properly. It to me still smokes the MM200 stuff, is head and shoulder nicer finished than turtles an samuari's , heck I like the case better than the MM300. I still prefer the auto's dial and 70hr movement but this is a great release all the same thx for highlightong Jodi

[@peterclark2618]

I love this watch. It should never need a battery and with an oil fill conversion, it will have more water resistance than any diver would ever need. I've already seen one UK price for £356 and that was just a quick look. I feel a project coming on.

[@samaniegodennis]

I got mine at 315 USD, tax included, at the Watchouse Dubai. They were running an online sale on select seiko watches, just got lucky because after 3 days price went back to retail.

[@MrBun9l3]

I also picked one up on that same deal after saying I'd never buy a Sumo. A good grab and go beater at that price. That said there are some great (I'd say better) looking Seiko solar chrono divers sans the nickname, charge indicator and Japanese make. The SSC015P1 manages to pull off the date window without cutting up the 4 o'clock maker. You really have to wonder what were they thinking here.

[@drbop6951]

Just ordered the blue variant with 50% off. Looks to be the perfect daily driver for me! Cheers Jody!

[@defender1006]

A brilliant and well argued presentation on the great Mechanical vs Quartz debate, they both have their place. I love steam engines, classic cars and bikes etc, but I wouldn't want to have to rely on them everyday, we've moved on, but that doesn't mean we can't still own, use and enjoy them for what they are? Can I recommend the the Seiko V175-OADO not a PROSPEX, Sumo or PADI version but still an ISO spec 200M Divers watch, I bought mine slightly used two years ago, for a good price, it's a brilliant watch, not too big for those of us with smaller wrists and is always ready to go and I love it to bits.

[@peterkarahalios3488]

Love both technologies. Had let myself get dragged into the pro-mechanical crowd but then I got my first Quartz Grand Seiko. I now welcome both technologies and feel really good about it.

[@nmhbrooklands]

Jody, Hi, just got to say that in a recent video you made a throwaway comment about how you take more links from the front section to improve wearability which triggered my OCD but I tried it and it really makes a difference! Revisited all my collection and they are all much more comfortable on wrist when set up this way. Maybe do a piece on it if you haven’t already. Love the channel!

[@keesketsers5866]

I actually love the chopped lume dot for the date window. Breitling does that WAY more often and I just like the quirky look. I've never been OCD about dial layout. Just bought this exact watch in Padi Pepsi dial version.

[@BrittPearceWatches]

I couldn't agree more! I just did a video on the quartz crisis & some of the quartz gatekeeping in watch fam. Fantastically done J! Loved this video... AS ALWAYS!

[@barryvercueil2346]

Incredible watch for the price. The solar is awesome. Could have been better without the chronograph function. Great video. Cheers.

[@rioriggs3568]

I love my quartz... most being equipped with the Seiko VK meca-quartz. Love the fact I can simply put it on and go.

[@TheDocrwm]

You got the deal. Starbuy has it back to $649 and no one else I can find has it as discounted as you found it for in July. Congratulations.

[@benson8205]

Yep - Its was one of the one day specials they run. I jumped on it as well and am enjoying the solar Sumo.

[@whichwatch5651]

I just love watches. While I do have some preferences against cheap watches, it's against cheaply made watches that aren't good value. I also dislike replacing batteries. But I have several quartz watches, casio solar, citizen eco-drive, etc. Love the citizen, its the most comfortable watch currently in my possession. (I have an RGMT Tritium auto that is more comfy, but it had a defect so is in the shop for warranty repair). As long as it's quality, comfortable, and gives me that wow factor when I'm wearing it, quartz is great.

[@denisdaly1708]

I have half quartz and half mechanical. I like slim watches, big fan of citizen. This looks good, but just too big for my wrist. Good value.

[@1968jpy]

Already being the owner of the SBDC033 Sumo/Blumo if I were to get a third generation Sumo it would probably be a chronograph quartz/solar . I’m not a fan of the third generation Sumo automatics . Thanks as always for a great video 👍🏻💯

[@johnyoung8144]

Like both quartz and mechanical. Got a few solar. Tha Black Arnie, a Seiko Premier and a cheap Pulsar. Would pick the three-hand auto between these two as I find chronographs too busy looking and just like a nice clean face.

[@pauldame2784]

I definitely don’t hate quartz watches, but find that they are most often pure tool watches for working out, hiking, skiing, etc.

[@ryanpeck3377]

I have a few quartz... Casio Edifice ani-digi I wear at work (dirty dusty truck factory), retro digital Timex and couple more digital casios.... I also have the Citizen Eco-drive my Dad bought me 18yrs ago. They have their place.

[@jabbahursty]

and i dont' understand why watch companies can't get away from the date function. it's easy to know what day of the month it is and watches often look so much better without it

[@shadowhenge7118]

I like either. I just wont spend big money on a quartz because if it breaks i cant do as much to fix it save for replacing the movement entirely.

[@BryanO92]

So much to unpack here. In terms of sheer specs for money, let's break it down. I'll take your word it's a similar level of finishing, so the difference is really the movements. The SPB101 runs with a 6R35, substantially similar to a 6R15, which can be sourced for $110-$120. This appears to run on a V192, and I think the SII version of that is the VD53. I found one of those for about $30. So these will be marked up ~ 3x in the final product. That will be off of a bulk price, so who knows exactly, but lets just say $30 and $120 for the sake of argument. Price on the SPB101 is about US $850, sales notwithstanding, and the SSC is about $350. Ergo, the case, dial and bracelet price is roughly $850-360=$490 for the SPB. The SSC is $350-90=$260. So objectively, the quartz watch is much better value, but subjective value is another thing entirely.

[@PowerChucker]

for Chrono's, id much rather have quartz. the cost of mechanical service on a chrono is too much.