Why Seiko's SSC819 Chronograph Is Disappointing & The Flightmaster SNA411 Is Still King Under $500

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The Urban Gentry

The Urban Gentry

Күн бұрын

I've put off reviewing the Seiko Prospex Speedtimer SSC819 (known by watch enthusiasts and fans as the "Seikona") because in my opinion, nothing beats Seiko's Flightmaster, which costs a fraction of the price. However, there are rumors that the Flighty SNA411 is soon to be discontinued, which begs the question-will the Seikona take the crown as the brand's most affordable chronograph? To answer this, I borrowed one to compare with the Flighty, and in this watch review I analyze its strengths, weaknesses, positives, negatives, the often overlooked history of Seiko's contribution to chronographs, and the design evolution that inspired this Rolex Daytona-esque watch. Is this relatively new Seiko worth the significantly higher price tag? How does it compete with everything else on the market today around the same price? And is this the best new racing chronograph between $500 and $1000? Join me for a close look at this sporty #strapmonster in the studio and out for a spin on a sunny day around Philadelphia's Navy Yard.
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@markikn3183
@markikn3183 2 жыл бұрын
TGV on Seikona vs Flightmaster: The Flighty! TGV on Rolex Daytona vs Flightmaster: The Flighty! 🙂 TGV on Patek 5270 vs Flightmaster: The Flighty! 🙂 🙂 TGV on 1kg bar of 24kt gold vs Flightmaster: The Flighty! 🙂 🙂🙂 TGV on luxury beachfront villa in Tahiti vs Flightmaster: The Flighty! 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂 TGV on Michaelangelo's David vs Flightmaster: The Flighty!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Thank you Mark. Best regards, TGV
@markikn3183
@markikn3183 2 жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry You know how much we love you, TGV. Great review of the Seikona, btw. Ten thumbs up, and best regards to darling Hugo.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry How about Seiko Flighty versus Dan Henry 1964 Gran Turismo Chrono or the Dan Henry 1962?
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 жыл бұрын
Does the Flight Master have a rapid date 📅 change 🤔 or no?
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 Great question my friend. It has quickset, and the date change near midnight takes around half an hour, much quicker than most entry level Seiko mechanicals that take even a few hours, even more for day/dates. I hope that helps.
@WatchmakerErik
@WatchmakerErik 2 жыл бұрын
TGV is a legend for his lack of snobbery and his appreciation of all aspects of horology. That is one of the main reasons I love this channel so much.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌 Thank you Erik, you are an absolute gent and I am deep honored. Onwards and upwards my friend. Best regards, TGV
@WatchmakerErik
@WatchmakerErik 2 жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry I do try my best and thank you. I found your little quip about the Seikona Nick some particularly enjoyable as I am rather a Seiko fan myself. I have always had a fascination with watches and have had a watch collection since childhood. When I got into it seriously a few years ago KZbin's watch channels nurtured my interest, and The Urban Gentry spearheaded that journey. Just One More Watch is another channel I regard very highly. My life went through a great reset lately and now I am dedicating my remaining lifespan to becoming a career Horologist. Your channel is definitely partially to credit and or blame for that :)
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I guess he's okay........lol. I agree, everything TGV is strictly a non-snobbery zone.
@jiboo6850
@jiboo6850 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you didnt see some old videos where he is borderline at best.
@WatchmakerErik
@WatchmakerErik 2 жыл бұрын
@@jiboo6850 I've been a viewer for absolutely donkeys and I think I can recall some hints of snbbery maybe very early on, but they were brought in check and what he produces now is very much a snobbery free zone.
@WatchmakerErik
@WatchmakerErik 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me and my night owl tendencies but especially on winter weekends the 24 hour dial is appreciated 😭
@DaveMGmovies
@DaveMGmovies 2 жыл бұрын
Edifying as always TGV and nothing better on a Sunday evening. I really like the look of the 'affordable' Hamilton chrono but I'm lucky to have in my collection one of the pioneers -- a 1970 Heuer Carrera -- so can't justify being in the market.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Dave. Deffo need to check out the newer Hamilton chronos, long over due. as for Heuer 🔥🔥🔥 Have a great week ahead my friend. Best regards, TGV
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Heuer originals from the 70's so many kool Autaivas, Carreras and the Camaro. So much better then current Tag Heuer
@KRW628
@KRW628 2 жыл бұрын
The Flighty is an "homage" (French translation - Le Ripoff) of the Navitimer 1332412. NO chronograph Seiko puts out is ever going to look that good. This Seikona is a joke.
@kingsford73
@kingsford73 2 жыл бұрын
Seiko's bracelets are world renowned for penny pinching they should just give us screw links with more micro adusts on the clasp. My flightmaster is still one of my favourite watches.
@Ingeborga_Dapkunaite
@Ingeborga_Dapkunaite 2 жыл бұрын
Bought my Flighty 2 years ago for 209$. 379? Are you kidding me?
@steveizzo5853
@steveizzo5853 2 жыл бұрын
That 24 hour register dial complication is a total waste of dial space. Maybe Seiko is planning to use this movement to go after miota 3rd party movement business.
@steveizzo5853
@steveizzo5853 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if we will see this movement in the quartz version Invicta Speedway for less than $100.
@Joe-yi8xj
@Joe-yi8xj 2 жыл бұрын
Some of us need quartz. Leave the nice looking quartz's alone. There is no denying this looks much slicker than the flight master
@CasualWatchReviews
@CasualWatchReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I couldn't disagree with you more on this watch, I have the blue and love it. The 24 hr indicator is a massive miss but the rest of the design really comes together. It looks like a sophisticated chronograph not like the 'toy-ish' cheaper ones seiko makes. The bracelet is very uncomfortable so that stays in the box!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback, I see this is your first comment on the channel, welcome! I have yet to try the blue version, so I really could not speak about that version, as you can understand, it would be very unfair to speak about a watch I have not tried., But as I said in this review, this version is a great watch, especially when it comes to quality, despite the many shortcomings and if you enjoy it, that is all matters! As for the "toy-ish" ones, I have yet to try any of cheaper offerings, again I can not speak for those, my flightmaster and this speedmaster I think have me covered! But I will look out for this blue version you have, I wonder if it will be a different experience. Best regards and again, welcome! TGV
@birdwatcher1337
@birdwatcher1337 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I have the white one and absolutely love it. Feels like a watch north of $1000 on the wrist and it's great for every occasion. Totally agree on the 24 hr indicator, that and the amount of lume are my only complaints. I have much more expensive watches in my box that I think about wearing but always end up wishing I was wearing this. Absolutely love it.
@birdwatcher1337
@birdwatcher1337 Жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry I have the panda and it's pretty great. I agree with what he said above. They call them opinions for a reason though. Hope you are well!
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode T! It’s nicknamed the Seitona for a reason I guess. It’s ironically a safer bet than a reimagined 6139!!!;) but how amazing would it be to bring back the Pogue!! The Flighty I don’t wear that often. Think it’s because of how busy the dial is. I only need the time from my watches and maybe it’s the strap width that limits my strap experimentation. I’d love to know when Seiko design or come up with a new watch whether it’s for the enthusiasts or whether it’s for the non watch geek!?! I guess limited editions are the geek ones! Speak soon!
@cosmodoc
@cosmodoc Жыл бұрын
I recently bought this with the champagne dial for
@realwarriorscholar
@realwarriorscholar 2 жыл бұрын
The Flighty is on the move upwards in price, but still a bang up watch. Love mine! For usability, I’d buy it in a larger size if it was available.
@midwestgent9618
@midwestgent9618 Жыл бұрын
If you're after something a bit bigger, hunt down the Seiko SNAD05 7T62-0JR0 "Big Flightmaster" as it's known - it's 44mm!
@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen
@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the panda. The only thing that bothered me was the sub dials look dark blue instead of black. I guess its hard to make black solar module screens.
@kalyansapsd1
@kalyansapsd1 22 күн бұрын
Indoors and low light conditions doesn’t make those solar panels obvious but in sunlight, it’s very obvious.. It’s the only chorno that I have and being a Seiko, it is reliable too…I love it
@tkindschi
@tkindschi Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree completely here, (based on my own biases, of course). Simply put, based on side-by-side comparison of LOOKS, I would never buy a "flighty". It is cluttered and ugly in my book. On the other hand, the Panda version of the Speed Timer grabbed me, and wouldn't let me go until I bought one. I was late to the game, having purchased just last month, but I have to stop myself from ignoring the rest of my collection by wearing it everyday. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
@edmurth
@edmurth 2 жыл бұрын
I have the sand or gold dial version, I have to say I love it. Sure the 24hr dial is a bit useless and the bracelet while a massive improvement over my other Seiko’s is still a bit jangly, but I bought it primarily for how it looks and that along with the way it wears leaves me with no regrets and I find myself wearing it often. The bracelet could be so much better if the tolerance of the pusher in the clasp was tighter, that’s a little frustrating because it seems so obvious.
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 2 жыл бұрын
Yep - agree entirely. I have the same and seem to wear it a lot. Looks good on a black and sand nato. 🙂
@CanttReed
@CanttReed 2 жыл бұрын
Nice that there are good aftermarket bracelet options if you’re interested! Strapcode has an oyster and jubilee style. Uncle Seiko has also announced he will be releasing bracelet options in the near future.
@jimferry4751
@jimferry4751 Жыл бұрын
@@CanttReed I just could not get a proper fit from the stock bracelet and ordered a StrapCode Super JUB II jubilee. Now a perfect fit. I also picked up a sailcloth in black with white stitching. I like that strapcode did taper to 16mm at the clasp.
@kbeightyseven1783
@kbeightyseven1783 Жыл бұрын
Love my golden panda! I actually think the gold dial is the most cohesive design. All the hype was about the white dial, but the off black solar dials and the off-white handset didn't look great to me.
@johnfountain8588
@johnfountain8588 2 жыл бұрын
The fightmaster hands down has it And it’s still in the affordable category I have mine
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 жыл бұрын
I just hope for a Seiko Commander Pogue recreation one day faithful to the original. It's the one Seiko I want the most with that beautiful gold dial. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened yet and automatic of course like the original
@HRM.H
@HRM.H 2 жыл бұрын
i hope for a modern remake of the pogue , with a hi beat column wheel chronograph movement.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
🤞🤞🤞🤞 Yeh, it's a movement issue I think, they simile don't have a new movement to fit that single sub dial and date/day layout but I agree, so surprised it has not happened yet. Thank you my friend. Best regards, TGV
@beren1hand
@beren1hand 2 жыл бұрын
Next year is the 50th anniversary of Pogue’s Skylab mission. Just sayin…
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 жыл бұрын
@@beren1hand That would be perfect 👌 and a missed opportunity if Seiko doesn't do it
@HRM.H
@HRM.H 2 жыл бұрын
@@beren1hand would be a GREAT (and quite logical) move to make for them to reissue it.
@vamark7751
@vamark7751 2 жыл бұрын
Usually agree with TGV but not when it comes to the Flighty. Try to like it but can’t get over the overly complex dial. Too much!
@jchanisko1
@jchanisko1 2 жыл бұрын
As a former Mayport sailor, it makes me smile to see some of those ships again... I would like to see Seiko reissue the RAF chrono in the Prospex line. No tachymeter, bead blasted case.
@Boggsy.
@Boggsy. Жыл бұрын
Man, this would be a dream.
@jitech_
@jitech_ 2 жыл бұрын
I would like Seiko to do thinner chronographs, 9-10mm instead of 13, like they already did. A 30 min register would be more readable too. I would like a reissue of 6139-8020 too. Thanks for the video.
@prccap
@prccap 2 жыл бұрын
the real issue is that the flightmaster is still only worth $120 and is worth buying at that price, but not todays
@arikcagan7123
@arikcagan7123 2 жыл бұрын
Every negative said about Seiko and this watch can be said about Rolex AP TAG, etc.. the only difference is, if you buy it and don’t like it the disappointment is way cheaper. Personally I prefer Japanese watches. Simpler philosophy. And not top heavy. Same as my Mercedes’ and my Toyota. For every day use and for that long trip around Australia 🇦🇺…Toyota by a mile.🎭👍 .
@engineering_guy
@engineering_guy 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. One of these days you should review a high end casio like the oceanus or their jdm lineage line which are awesomely priced for what they offer. The LIW-M700 gives a timer, alarm, second time zone, chronograph and radio time with 100m water resistance aaand sapphire aaand solar for under 300 dollars. people should know about these..
@user-dp8jh8gn1g
@user-dp8jh8gn1g 2 жыл бұрын
👆 👆💬💬 🎁🎁
@glennpowell3444
@glennpowell3444 2 жыл бұрын
Casio beat everthing into submissision whether you want analogue or digital.Seiko cant get close.Casio have every base covered and buttoned up.Why look anywhere else at all?
@77cjam
@77cjam 2 жыл бұрын
Great detailed videol. Whilst the negatives are disappointing sometimes I do think Seiko are caught between a rock and a hard place. Innovative and put the price up, and they get a backlash from some (not all) refusing to pay ("cos it's just a Seiko"). Or stick to the formula of previous decades, keep the cost down, but still get a backlash for not innovating. They are almost paying the price for their success in past decades, and a lot of people refuse to see them on a par with others(even Grand Seiko suffers from this). Having said that the quality control issues of late certainly haven't helped, and that is certainly on themselves. As always thank you for the well produced, informative and entertaining video sir 👍
@salembeeman370
@salembeeman370 2 жыл бұрын
Great Vid. The SeikoTona just came back into stock and I was ready to pull the trigger then the GMT was announced. What to do?
@coolti44
@coolti44 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry brother, I'm really attracted to the Speedtimer. The solar movement and 39mm has me hooked. Wasted subs or no..it's sexy! Just wish I could find the "Panda". Always appreciate your objective reviews!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
No need to apologize, if you love it, that is all that matters. It's an awesome watch, enjoy and thank you for the words of support. Best regards, TGV
@coolti44
@coolti44 2 жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry it arrived straight from Japan and I love it! I'm on a ration of one watch a year (strict orders from the wifey!) Next year, I want that bronze Hamilton! Cheers!
@mattk8166
@mattk8166 2 жыл бұрын
I can't forgive a 24hr dial that has no purpose.
@shankz8854
@shankz8854 6 ай бұрын
Can’t you track another Timezone with that?
@johnlacroix1639
@johnlacroix1639 2 жыл бұрын
WOW incredible very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌 Thank you so much my friend for the inspiring words. Onwards and upwards! Best regards, TGV
@GinkgoJoe
@GinkgoJoe 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you on the 24-hour subdial: worst complication ever if you're not an astronaut or a spelunker (or in Canada in November). Bulova and Dan Henry both have a tenths register on their chronos: way cooler and more fun! Thanks, as always, for the stellar show. ✨
@GeorgeUK84
@GeorgeUK84 Жыл бұрын
Bro, we need 12-hour totalizers.
@eazye619
@eazye619 2 жыл бұрын
I almost bought the panda dial version yesterday and couldn’t find a video review for this one from you sadly..glad I went with the 5KX GMT instead AND it was cheaper which is crazy
@ExpeditedProductions
@ExpeditedProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Flight Master forever! Thanks much, TGV. Appreciate it as always. Onward and upward, my friend!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌 O&U brother! Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@jimwashington860
@jimwashington860 Жыл бұрын
The flight master is a big ugly watch…
@britannia2129
@britannia2129 2 жыл бұрын
Hello again TGV - watched the F1 earlier, which always sparks my desire for another racing watch. Happy with my Dan Henry ‘62 though!
@sbromose1
@sbromose1 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Thanks for the review. I saw the Seiko SSC815P1 with the beautiful blue dial at a local dealer. Positive: I really like that design. It has curved glass. It's a good size for me. Seiko has made a power meter, which I have missed from Seiko solar. Negative: I'm not into bracelets, I'd like Seiko to come up with an alternative strap and thus a little cheaper. I'm also not a fan of the 24 hour dial, just the aesthetic, I'd like it to be the date. The price in Denmark is an average of DKK 5,000. That's about 734 dollars. It is somewhat more expensive than expected. Would love to see it in Titanium for that price. B.R. Steen B
@orbwheelsandwatches
@orbwheelsandwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from England.
@MADHIKER777
@MADHIKER777 2 жыл бұрын
Fatal flaw of 60 minute subdial... Not readable 🚫 I'll stick to ETA, Seagull, movements with 30 minute subdials.
@pilotstyle123
@pilotstyle123 2 жыл бұрын
UG videos are so relaxing to watch, a lovely bit of watch related escapism
@yo-sefakimbey7009
@yo-sefakimbey7009 2 жыл бұрын
You kicked some ass with that intro
@monstrok
@monstrok 2 жыл бұрын
EPIC opening! The Flighty will always reign supreme =)
@-chris-n-lucy
@-chris-n-lucy 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review TGV. I'll admit that I've been smitten with these since they first came out and it's tempting with some for sale in the $500 range on chrono.
@Tom-ru4dd
@Tom-ru4dd 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only watch channel I bother to watch and I feel like I have been on a journey with this channel from watching it over the years. TGV is absolutely smashing it and is easily the best out there, he’s so genuine, relatable and has grown so much as a person from his early days. I would be very sad if the content stopped one day as I love nothing more than grabbing a morning coffee and seeing if there is new content on this channel!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Thomas, you have no idea what that means to me, you made my day! Onwards and ever upwards my friend. The very best of regards, TGV
@davidcrandall4958
@davidcrandall4958 2 ай бұрын
Ditto!
@ralphus555
@ralphus555 2 жыл бұрын
Simply stated, I think it's a great looking watch and that is why people are buying it.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@hogster5935
@hogster5935 Жыл бұрын
I think the flighty is too busy imo
@MarkKoolen
@MarkKoolen 12 күн бұрын
Why are people call it “Pros-pex”, it has pro specs that’s why you pronounce it like “Pro-Spex” :)
@amoledzeppelin
@amoledzeppelin Жыл бұрын
Hell no, 24h subdial is definitely useful. After all, a day has 24 hours in it, and that's why I set all my digital watches and clocks to 24h scale. It's not "military" time, it's homo sapiens time. Also, besides making the watch bunker-ready, such a subdial also allows you to take a quick glance at the rest of your day, e.g. to eyeball the time left until the end of your on-call shift. And speaking of hidden gems from Seiko, I just got a SSB401P1, which is _really_ affordable considering the huge markups our clueless watch dealers make where I live, making the price of SSC819 exceed $500. Alas, SSB401 isn't solar-powered nor does it have an auto-calendar, but it's very sleek and reliable.
@alvinmick218
@alvinmick218 2 жыл бұрын
I too am a Seiko enthusiast and I earnestly want them to succeed all the while wishing they would return to the innovations and creative genius that they had in spades during the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. Maybe it’s just me but they seem to somewhat flat with their offerings of late.
@user-dp8jh8gn1g
@user-dp8jh8gn1g 2 жыл бұрын
👆 👆💬💬 🎁🎁
@keithh2028
@keithh2028 2 жыл бұрын
A little over a year ago I purchased the Seiko Flighty and I am soooo glad I did. I paid less than $200, and now you're lucky if you can find it for under $350. Do you think this is going to go the same way of the SKX and be discontinued and then see the prices really skyrocket??
@gnarl12
@gnarl12 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not anytime soon
@slowbluesmaster
@slowbluesmaster 2 жыл бұрын
Compare the SSC819 to the Orient Panda WV0041TX Solar Neo70's
@anton0529
@anton0529 11 ай бұрын
this is the first time i strongly disagree with all the negativses mentioned exept for the lack of loom markers. great video keep it up
@Kittyland123
@Kittyland123 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you TGV for such an interesting video eview!! I personally wear the seiko solar panda watch with (v172) movement with an a alarm (which is a little to quiet for me). I really love solar watches because there is no hassle with it compared with automatic movements. Stay healthy and well as always!! Thank you!! (Nicholas)
@legumbro
@legumbro 2 жыл бұрын
I think you would love the Seiko SND253. Check it out. Amazing video as usual. Regards from Spain.
@AtlantaGuns
@AtlantaGuns Жыл бұрын
I prefer the look of the seiko sbtr027. Looks more like a Daytona and sub $200. Same Mecha quartz functionality and did not cheap out on the lumn. Also 20mm lugs make for a frustration free strap swap.
@vdbdg
@vdbdg 2 жыл бұрын
Sup TGV, I did enjoy the Speedtimer at first and bought the white and the yellow ones but kinda lost interest and never wore them
@NathanChisholm041
@NathanChisholm041 2 жыл бұрын
The Seiko Speedtimer is so generic looking and that dial couldn't be anymore less interesting if you tried! I just bought a Bulova Luna on a bracelet and I think is a far better watch...
@arielargo
@arielargo 2 жыл бұрын
Good and informative review as always! Just one thing to mention... The Tachymeter bezel is not ceramic. I believe it's polished aluminium.
@NCSheriff7
@NCSheriff7 Жыл бұрын
Its titancarbid
@oldestpunkinargentina7766
@oldestpunkinargentina7766 Ай бұрын
​@@NCSheriff7Nope; it's covered by TiC. The bezel is Al. Should have been stainless at the price point. 100 bucks Invictas are all SS FFS!
@finster444k
@finster444k 2 жыл бұрын
I must say, it’s so refreshing to listen to a knowledgeable student of Time pieces without having to hear the “FREE WATCH ALARM “ sound whenever you see a new watch from a micro brand.
@derekwalter4238
@derekwalter4238 2 жыл бұрын
What's that??
@watchlover7750
@watchlover7750 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekwalter4238 he refers to " just one more watch " KZbin Channel I guess
@mikeb9041
@mikeb9041 2 жыл бұрын
Strapcode offers bracelets for the speedtimers. Have them on my SARBS (017 and 035) and they're great. Been spaming them for ages trying to get one for the flighty.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
I will check them out, they make amazing bracelets. Thank you Mike for the heads ups. Enjoy your SARBS 😎🥂 Best regards, TGV
@MayDayDevinci
@MayDayDevinci 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain to me the appeal of automatic watches over quartz???
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video, although it will be a long one! 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@MayDayDevinci
@MayDayDevinci 2 жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry a long one, really? I'm super curious and will be anxiously waiting for that video. A quartz watch looks the same as an automatic watch - no difference at all. Until you look at the back if it has a see through back cover. quartz are more accurate and reliable. I can't wait for your video explaining this automatic watch love.
@gregdettling6693
@gregdettling6693 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss you are my favorite watch personality !!!! Save for James Bond of course What’s your ALLL TIME FAVOURITE 5 WATCHES?
@ant28gauge
@ant28gauge 11 ай бұрын
The SEIKO SELECTION SBTR021 Meca Quartz Chrono from Japan is another value sleeper like the Flightmaster in my opinion.
@gregdettling6693
@gregdettling6693 2 жыл бұрын
This is not to say that field watches and GMT watches and of course CHRONOGRAPHS are not excellent ( I owned a ROLEX EXPLORER 2 OLD STYLE ONE 3186 new movement for about 3.5 years ) But in this light and rationale that I tried to illustrate THE DIVER MUST BE SUPERLATIVE!!!! It may lack some of the complications of a GMT HAND and a DAY indication and pushers and time keeping of the chronograph but it is superlative as a Swiss sports Watch . Ohhhh and dressy too !!!!!
@jazzman5598
@jazzman5598 Жыл бұрын
Great vid TGV! (I REALLY prefer the 39 mm) So, I have a question: What are the chances Seiko will put out a ProSpex level quality chronograph with a VK 67 with a 12 hour Totalizer and ditch the uber stupid “24 hour” dial……go look out the window….what a waste of dial space. Anyway, do you think there is a chance? Thanks TGV! PS can you get a VK 67 with a Day/Date…or at least a date? Even Seiko will have to jump through it to beat it’s own…..SNA 411! It RULES!!!!
@GeorgeUK84
@GeorgeUK84 Жыл бұрын
Let’s pray.
@gregdettling6693
@gregdettling6693 2 жыл бұрын
CITIZEN was the first watch to be given to a Japanese Emperor .. Notice CITI ZEN ZEN JAPANESE ZA ZEN BUDDHISM perhaps SEIKO is of course number 1 in Japan :)
@gregdettling6693
@gregdettling6693 2 жыл бұрын
The modern mechanical automatic Swiss Watch is basically a number of things. Waterproof Automatic Sporty to various degrees And a highly reliable time keeper to the point of being a the grade of an officially certified Swiss chronometer Or BETTER. The dive watch is the ideal pinnacle of all these . Moreover You can trust your life to a diver watch . It was designed to TRUST YOUR LIFE TO IN ALL ITS FUNCTIONS and COMPLICATIONS ( listed above ) and it is obviously sporty . Not surprising ( in this light ) the SCUBA DIVER WATCH would be the pinnacle of sport watches. Rolex is often seen as the pinnacle of Swiss watches so this would explain why their SUBMARINER DATE and NO DATE is sooo extremely popular. This said I’d predict that other divers would be seen as the best from each brand .
@gregdettling6693
@gregdettling6693 2 жыл бұрын
Below . This is my own answer . Of course Hollywood and James Bond definitely lent themselves to the Divers !! But besides that...factor which is a good factor . Then below I think would be the rest of the explanation. Ohh and I thought of one more thing . THE LUME / LIGHT HAS TO BE AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE. Too. Tell me what you think of my explanation.
@chickenporkadob0
@chickenporkadob0 2 жыл бұрын
TGV new videos is the one i always look forward to. so informative and always showcase some watch gems.
@jadwehbe_
@jadwehbe_ 2 жыл бұрын
Seiko SSC819 Chronograph Is far more visual appealing than super busy and cheap looking The Flightmaster SNA411
@artkingofwholefoods74
@artkingofwholefoods74 7 ай бұрын
Great review. I have this Seiko, and I have the one just recently released that’s slightly bigger. I get it. But… I’m okay with the 24 hr dial, because it reminds me of the Daytona Cosmograph. They NEED to re release the Pogue with the gold dial. There are so many counterfeit ones being purchased. There’s DEFINITELY a market for them…
@davidcrandall4958
@davidcrandall4958 Ай бұрын
If I am putting out all this money on a watch,I dont forgive Seiko for anything! I am shopping for a 70th Birthday present for my self but this is not it. Better luck next time Seiko!
@wingi7722
@wingi7722 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review of both positives and negatives. Personally I reckon the golden age of Seiko was from 1969 to late 70s which explains why I have a pogue, a Bullhead and a John Player Special. I would LOVE to see a Pogue reissue but in Automatic chronograph as well as quartz. Citizen resissued their bullhead but it is junk compared to the original auto flyback Chrono. Their new one has an awfully clunky quartz movement in which the seconds hand doesn't even line up with the seconds markers and.the date is at 4 instead of a vertical day date at 6 as per the original, and the newer one doesn't have flyback. Please oh please Seiko , do not repeat Citizens mistake!
@user-dp8jh8gn1g
@user-dp8jh8gn1g 2 жыл бұрын
👆 👆💬💬 🎁🎁
@resjon7981
@resjon7981 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a 40mm Arnie from Seiko and quartz versions of their popular divers, example being a quartz SPB143.
@rebeccawarren2976
@rebeccawarren2976 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Seiko. Dear Grand Seiko. Could we please have a simple 36 mm everyday watch like Rolex Explorer powered by mighty Spring Drive movement. I would pay straight away!
@timyoungnc
@timyoungnc 2 жыл бұрын
I like this watch and own it but the bracelet clasp needs more micro adjustments. The size of the watch is ideal.
@alaththar819
@alaththar819 2 жыл бұрын
IMHO, The true chronograph watch is Casio WVQ-500DJ. you got 50 split/lap memory. oh it got 21 mm lug width too. 😂
@ayayoutuber
@ayayoutuber 11 ай бұрын
have you compare to SBDL095 that has bigger lum ? Also compare the Speedtimer automatic vs the quatz?
@lazylama6
@lazylama6 2 жыл бұрын
You are becoming the Christopher Nolan of the KZbin watch channels. Intro is obnoxiously loud compared to the rest of the video. I always have to adjust the volume level when watching your videos. Keep up the good work (and do something about the volume difference, please).
@RJ-cq8dd
@RJ-cq8dd Жыл бұрын
The Tactical Frog VS75 v2 panda does many things better at 1/3 the cost. A beautiful no date solar watch with sapphire crystal and cerameric bezel insert.
@gregdettling6693
@gregdettling6693 2 жыл бұрын
What can explain the extreme popularity of DIVE WATCHES? I have a definitive answer.
@tuber6382
@tuber6382 2 жыл бұрын
TGV... a pogue reissue? With the precision? You mean quartz??? Haha you read my mind!!!!
@kostasfilippou8955
@kostasfilippou8955 2 жыл бұрын
TGV I am referring to the panda version and I think that there is no other option for a new watch under 1000 euros and especially solar from a brand with history. two other watches come to my mind : yema rallygraf and zodiac grandrally. the economic option is :dan henry 1964 or 1962. what do you think?
@jaimedougherty7347
@jaimedougherty7347 2 жыл бұрын
😂 I was on wish today just looking about and ended up buying a flightmaster for $14 . I'm expecting to get what I payed for . FYI just to compare it to a real one
@wristray8775
@wristray8775 2 жыл бұрын
Really, 24 hrs sub-dial must go now. Its irritating and I avoid so many Citizens and Seikos just for that. Something innovative / interesting can be done instead of completely omitting.
@silverback710
@silverback710 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a silly question but any chance on doing a review on a tag heuer aquaracer 2017 500m wak2110?
@bogrot69
@bogrot69 2 жыл бұрын
So what I hear you saying is, you like the FlightMaster 🤣 I think the new SpeedTimer is a pretty decent watch but when it comes to their pricing, they lose me. I mean, Sapphire and screw link bracelets are pretty much standard now. I do own the PADI edition Solar Diver and I love it. Maybe I got spoiled by the micro brands
@guscrossing
@guscrossing Жыл бұрын
I love my flighty but I might get this as well. They have different appeals as the flighty is iconic, multipurpose and quirky, the speedtimer is classy and solar. I agree the unfortunate thing is this is nicknamed Seitona, as tbf it's kinda generic yet handsome looking, and shouldn't be living in the shadow of a mega brand giga watch.
@michaelanzelino5068
@michaelanzelino5068 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think a 24 hour indicator is a waste of complication. Serves well in places like upper or lower latitudes. 6 months of light or darkness. Or an even more practical matter would be a dark and cloudy day when one awakes and is unsure of the AM, PM differentiation.
@anthonycampbell8307
@anthonycampbell8307 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Seiko SBTR027 offers better value for money albeit hardlex crystal.
@mystic48209
@mystic48209 2 жыл бұрын
Sacrifice the sapphire. Improve the lume. Fine tune the other parts of the watch.adjusting thr price is anyone's call.
@rikkidee
@rikkidee 2 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful Seiko TGV. So much so that I myself purchased one last year in 2021 for $550 Australian. Felt it was well worth it. Plus I love how the dial display has so much to look at and keep oneself occupied. Again great review and as always unbiased review. Postscript Philadelphia looks beautiful, the background you choose is perfect for this review. As always kind regards from Australia. Rikki
@goldean5974
@goldean5974 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my Flightmaster. Best chronograph I ever owned. Seiko hit it out of the park with that one.
@oOJayWeeOo
@oOJayWeeOo 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this watch with a white dial 2 weeks ago and really love it. It fits my wrist so perfectly well, i looks great and fells like a high quality watch. The mentioned negatives are there, but arguably, or at least for me, a non issue. - The lume is nice, its just not that many markers. It doesnt bother me because rarely am i in such dark conditions that couldnt read my watch (as long as the hands are lumed). - The only two things that bother me A LITTLE is the bracelet....which is totaly OK, but the brushing horizontal while the case brushing is vertical. I dont know why they did that, but since you can only see that in some light conditions and the rest of the bracelet is good....i can live with that. - The 3 o'clock subdial....yes, would have really preffered if they made it a GMT complication...but hey...what watch is absolutely perfect? All in all...for the significantly discounted price i paid this watch, it is great and i will wear it proud for a long time!
@yurymol
@yurymol 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, with the bracelet it feels like they just took the one they had for something else and attached it here. They indeed use these bracelets for some other models.
@TheBelse
@TheBelse 2 жыл бұрын
so i go on Google to look at prices ...and you're not wrong ..i bought in at 200 uk beans plus 50 import duty ...and Second hand ones are selling for more ..new ones ...well some are being offered for around 330...lol
@Samlowry27B-6
@Samlowry27B-6 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. Must admit I sold my own flighty as being so used to field watches I found it too busy. However this seiko is very tempting indeed. All the best.
@syedmohammedzaheeruddin1756
@syedmohammedzaheeruddin1756 Жыл бұрын
Hi TGV, have you had a chance to take a look at the Seiko SBTR027. Would love to see you review this beautiful dialled watch
@saleendriver
@saleendriver 2 жыл бұрын
Pin & Collar bracelets in 2022 is inexcusable. I literally will avoid watches with this kind of bracelet. As for micros, God I wish you'd explore Zelos. Yes they are big watches....but there are plenty to explore in the 38 - 41mm area. But otherwise.....onwards.....upwards.......
@josephgschwartz
@josephgschwartz 2 жыл бұрын
Moderator can someone help? I have been trying to get back in the Facebook group for 3 weeks now and have not been able to get my account approved. I applied multiple times. Doesn't make any sense. I used to be a member but I deleted my Facebook account a couple years ago. I recently rejoined. It would like to be back in the group please
@alanmckinnon6791
@alanmckinnon6791 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you on the 24-hour subdial. Very occasionally I find it useful when setting the date, to know if the next 12 o'clock will be noon or midnight. Rest of the time, it's a distraction that makes me look at it only to find it's not the one I want to look at.
@alpolo007
@alpolo007 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t sand the different series logos Seiko puts on a lot of their watches now. Fuck the 5 and Prospex series. Their Essentials watches are g2g though.
@fantomas9240
@fantomas9240 2 жыл бұрын
What is music you use for your intro ? Very cool !!
@max.loves.watches
@max.loves.watches 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds a lot like Mick Gordon from the Doom soundtracks. EDIT: Clarified by the man himself!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, It's called "Apocalypse Inside" by Taheda. Best regards, TGV
@fantomas9240
@fantomas9240 2 жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry Thank you Tristano 👍
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