The Rings of Power Season 2: Dumb and Dumber

The Rings of Power Season 2: Dumb and Dumber
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Art and Animation by Just Some Guy
Original trailer concept: FMA Brotherhood & Black Summoner
Music: "Enkon Hakuchuumu" by Sakagami Souichi - Copyright (C) 2015 Trial & Error/Sakagami Souichi All rights reserved.
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#theringsofpower #theringsofpowerseason2 #thelordoftherings

[@SoldierSpiderx]

Star Wars written by people who've never seen Star Wars. Tolkien written by people who've never read Tolkien. It'll be fine.

[@Angrenost02]

But they must have read it somehow. They do know obscure details about Tolkien that only someone who had read most of what he wrote would know. I think they just don't understand Tolkien. They're only surface level fans.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Angrenost02💯💯💯💯

[@Rabbithole8]

As Angrenost02 stated, they read it. I also think besides not understanding Tolkien, they outright reject what they do get right about what Tolkien put in this work. Some of them in fact despise Tolkien. The "consultant" from Glasgow University, a doctoral candidate, who was one of the ones who replaced Tom Shippey, clearly rejects Tolkien. Her "credentials" were that as a master's student she wrote three or four articles on Tolkien, two of which were published at an obscure university and on the same topic. In other words, she is no expert. Everything she has written, however sparse, is from a CT studies perspective, such as queer studies. This is the type of person Amazon hired. They are trying to recreate Tolkien's work to fit their own ideology. That is why you also get articles written by the like minded types on media stating how this series improves upon Tolkien's lore, not just Jackson's movies, but Tolkien himself! The people who have KZbin channels that go on about how great this series is have clearly read Tolkien. They seem to love Tolkien's work, at least what they understand of it, but hate Tolkien which means they have no idea of their cognitive dissonance since of course you can't separate the work from the man. They reject his own thoughts about his own work in order to replace it with their ideology.

[@rolkflameraven1483]

@@Angrenost02 I'm not so sure they did. The CliffsNotes, maybe. But it feels more like someone read it, and told a friend about it. That friend then told another friend, who then told the writers. And this is what we got, at the end of that game of telephone.

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

​@@Rabbithole8 worked fine on TMNT 1987. Didn't even have to admit it's an anime, it's one of the Glorious American cartoons hand-crafted by the Republic's finest.

[@wumpusrat]

In the book Sauron as Annatar also spent CENTURIES working with the elves to perfect their ring-craft. They made countless "lesser rings" (which Gandalf initially thought the ring Bilbo found was one) until they had worked up the skill to create the first of the greater rings (the nine and the seven). Instead, this show has all this happen over a period of DAYS, which just makes the characters come across as even more ridiculously stupid, since they apparently have the memory of a goldfish.

[@aleksander8497]

There's very little crafting in the clips we've seen. celebrimbor is more interested in dressing fancy than crafting. A terrible portrayal.

[@OsloTime]

Wow, I didn't know this. (Haven't read the book yet.) That's disappointing they make such silly and obvious mistakes like this.

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

Also, if they were made to fight evil, why not mass produce them if they can be made so quickly? Even if it's just one guy making them, he could make 50 or 100 per year? That should stop evil forever, right? Every settlement gets one ring or more. Not just one per kingdom.

[@michaelkeegan9260]

​@@Dreamfox-df6bg you're using logic... you can't enjoy this show if you're smart enough to use basic logic. Amazons target market has purple hair, 17 piercings and can't tell the difference between a dad bad a mom.

[@source3nergy203]

Goldfish of a memory

[@ayindisshowcase1917]

"I'm the Dude playing a Dude disguised as another Dude!"😁

[@clintmichigan9112]

Greatest line ever

[@robertbrown3413]

One wig to rule them all.

[@joellim7521]

what's that saying.. "Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made"

[@regiszeitlos970]

EP4 proved this sentence to be an absolute truth.

[@AClockworkHellcat]

That line is a corruption of two actual lines, one from The Return of the King and one from the Silmarillion. Every time you quote that version, you're only dunking on yourself, and worse, you're quoting TVtropes. "No, [orcs] eat and drink, Sam. The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own. I don't think it gave life to the orcs, it only ruined them and twisted them; and if they are to live at all, they have to live like other living creatures." "For the Orcs had life and multiplied after the manner of the Children of Ilúvatar; and naught that had life of its own, nor the semblance of life, could ever Melkor make since his rebellion in the Ainulindalë before the Beginning: so say the wise."

[@mikkelnpetersen]

@@regiszeitlos970 Every single episode proves it.

[@regiszeitlos970]

@@mikkelnpetersen I agree but in EP4 it is the most corrupt recreation of Tolkein's work so far. Every scene in that episode is the recreation of Tolkein and Peter Jackson combine.

[@tomkerruish2982]

​@AClockworkHellcat TBF, the original poster only referred to it as "a saying" with no attribution. You are certainly correct, though, in that many have attributed it to Tolkien.

[@noelwood4169]

"Pictures are made to entertain; if you want to send a message, call Western Union." -Samuel Goldwyn

[@BaoNguyen-bh2rk]

3:17 Given how much Amazon paid for the rights, Overpriced Gandalf is a more appropriate name.

[@chadleatherby3309]

Expensive investment in a discount quality character

[@mastring1966]

yet another difference between the great J.R.R and these bad tumbler fan fic scribblers. He wrote himself into a corner while writing LOTR, tossed the whole thing, and started over.

[@amsfountain8792]

The scraps that Tolkien throwed to the trash are better than ROP.

[@mikkelnpetersen]

@@amsfountain8792 Tolkien could've blown his nose and whiped his a** with the same piece of paper and it would still be a better story than RoP.

[@DomoArigatoRobot0]

@@mikkelnpetersen lol

[@VorpalSpider69]

Even LOTR Tumblr would write a better fanfic than RoP

[@TerryB01]

Man these videos are the best part of the show lol

[@chasehedges6775]

Better than actually watching the show itself, tbh

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

'The Woke Critic' uploads are the highlight of my week atm

[@milliewoo337]

Right? I’m not watching any of that $h!+ this season. Leave it to the real storytellers on YT to tell me what’s going on lol

[@phantomslayer247]

theres way better youtubers covering this , for better Humour and Art - check out Disparau, Little Platoon, The Woke Critic , Alteori, Despot of Anthrim, Hate Watchers

[@mechgouki7999]

The Rings of Power of MANYYYYYYYYY.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

You just gave me an earworm. 😩

[@richardwallis9374]

The ring of ONE!

[@mechgouki7999]

@@richardwallis9374 THE RING OF TWO!

[@voltaire9176]

​@@mechgouki7999the rings of mmaannyy(god I hate myself)

[@TheMightyCrucibleKnight184]

NOOOO!!!!! DON'T REMIND ME THIS BLAPHEMY!

[@NickThorbjørnsen2207]

Dude they dropped the ball so hard on Galadriel. There is an amazing 6"3 Australian actress Elizabeth Debicki who could've played her.

[@Street.Hermit]

I’ve been name dropping her since the first season and the horrible version we got with tough guyLadriel. Elizabeth is beautiful and regal looking… you know… like Galadriel

[@WhiskyCardinalWes]

I remember her from 'The Crown.' She could have been an excellent Galadriel, instead of the Guyladreal we have.

[@Jjrmtv]

Elizabeth would have been magnificent for the role

[@Dontlicktheballoons]

I still cant get over the actress playing this husk of Galadriel being so afriad of the stunt sword play that she had to have her therapist on set.

[@Adara007]

Exactly. Unfortunately the way RoP has characterised Galadriel goes so far away from Tolkien's legendarium that even with an actress who is more physically suited to Galadriel the show would still be a disgrace. In the chapter 'The Shibboleth of Fëanor' from The Peoples of Middle-earth, of Galadriel it says, "From her earliest years she had a marvellous gift of insight into the minds of others, but judged them with mercy and understanding, and she withheld her good will from none save only Fëanor." The RoP Galadriel is the opposite of Tolkien's Galadriel.

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

Silmarils.. now that would have been an amazing story to see come to life; thank god these clowns didn't try it.

[@robertbrown3413]

They don't have rights to the bulk of the Silmarillion, so no mention of the silmarils.

[@skeeterd5150]

Some of it, but to try all of it would be folly

[@cristianasoltanei7848]

Even in an ideal world where competent people would work on it, adapting The Silmarillion as a whole would be near impossible.

[@skeeterd5150]

@@cristianasoltanei7848 exactly, it’s too broad and too many characters 30000 year time line(exaggeration). Etc…. All the stories are tragedies too so it really is a downer. I love it that being said

[@robertbrown3413]

@@cristianasoltanei7848 Probably impossible to make a cohert movie of so many disparate events over epochs. 2001 does 2 time periods with the flying bone cut scene, but this trick wouldn't work with the Silmarillion.

[@IdiotLord123456]

For what it’s worth I appreciate you watching this for us. I consider myself a Tolkien fan and haven’t watched one second of this show because I too would break with the bastardisation of his work.

[@irena4545]

If only it was just bastardisation, I might be able to cope. However, it manages to be entirely stupid all on its own.

[@mamunestor]

You knew when they fired Tom Shippey the show was done.

[@reek4062]

Shippey was involved in the Jackson films

[@Makkaru112]

@@reek4062yup. And he’s in the behind the scenes documentary series curated by Pajasek99 on a playlist he created.

[@barryf7253]

The show runners themselves are certainly not Tolkien fans. I’ve heard them call him racist, that he’s not a good story teller, that he’s not multicultural enough, and even that his fans are fascists. Then after calling him all these vile things, they take his works, the best works of fantasy ever written, and turn them into a cheap, low-IQ soap opera. Just to spite his ghost, I assume.

[@reek4062]

Philippa Boyens and Fran Walsh called Tolkien an ''amateur writer''.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yeah, Payne and McKay are clearly fans of the films rather than the books. There was a Hollywood Reporter interview with them where they told how they'd pitched the show as a 5 season version of PJ's prologue. There was also some magazine interview where they told of combing through the books to get more details to make their pitch more enticing. So they (and JJ Abrams, who vouched for them) basically tricked Amazon into thinking they were big Tolkien lore nerds, lol. They certainly have no respect for Tolkien. They and their simps pick things from his letters to excuse certain decisions in the show- when they don't even have the rights to said letters.

[@Don9872]

@@reek4062 source?

[@TheSmalltownhick]

Just wait - in the final episode, Strong Woman will time travel into the past to reset everything. Because it's either that or "Its all a dream!" - the only two twists that bad writers ever use.

[@pauljanetzke]

Dream or a vision of things that yet may be.

[@LordWyatt]

Yeah then they’ll call it “subverting expectations”😂🤮

[@KleinKore]

I thought that Galadriel isnt a real one. The real Galadriel is off with Celeborn. That one here is fake. She just doesnt know it. Sauron made her and she woke up in the cavern thinking she just killed the snow troll. My way to make peace with this bullshit

[@BingleBangleBungle]

Multiverse. 😂

[@cypher10]

I really hope they don't make the wizards Gandalf and Saruman, because that would imply that Saruman was always evil, which wasn't at all the case. I'm not even going to talk about the force healing.

[@unOrigiNik]

Would be more interesting if the stranger was saruman and the other wizard isn't as Ishtar

[@chasehedges6775]

@@unOrigiNik Same.

[@jebshere]

I get the feeling they are going to "subvert expectations" and say it's morgoth.

[@Makkaru112]

Meanwhile nobody got healed in the first place. Re: Alteori’s recent 45 plus minute video.

[@Makkaru112]

@@jebsherethey already stated they want to make Tom a forced reincarnation of Melkor(Morgoth) as punishment and that Goldberry the Riverwoman’s daughter (Maia spirit.) would be the same for Ungoliant. Lol.

[@AspasiaB]

So, JSG, do you have a specific asylum you want to be committed to once this show breaks you? We just want to be prepared when the time comes.

[@LegendaryDorkKnight]

Celebrimbor: Who are you? Halbrand: Bro, I'm literally evil. BEYOND evil actually. You want my help? Celebrimbor: Absolutely!

[@pauljanetzke]

Celebrimbor: You had me at evil.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Celebrimbor: Get me out of this dress and take me!

[@markkettlewell7441]

The real Galadriel has lived under the light of the Trees in Valinor. In middle Earth she dwelt in Doriath under the tutelage of the great Maia Melian. Galadriel is ineffably old! She is wisdom personified. ROP has reduced her to a petulant brat.

[@Makkaru112]

She’s older than the sun & moon, learned all from ALL the Valar (beyond angels), that was possible to be taught from them. she always knew there was more to know, to learn and more to create and had a drive to visit the homeland of her forefathers. To the hitherlands. Middle Earth. Where the elves truly were meant to live and mentor mankind for thousands of years so men could be fully ready to take the reigns in being the stewards of the world.

[@Makkaru112]

@@markkettlewell7441 There is an entire set of clans of elves with variously different histories depending on when they branched off from the main three. Noldor, Teleri>Sindar (and Vanyar (of which Galadriel is of this branch more than her Noldorin percentage.) She is of the Calaquendi. Means The elves of light in Quenya. Some of the earliest Elves to come into existence, the Calaquendi dwelt in Valinor with the gods during the halcyon/zenith Years of the (Two) Trees, which predate even the First Age of Middle-earth. They are the exalted living ideal version of what the elves were meant to be like in this version of the world before Melkor/Morgoth’s poisonous malice poisoned and damaged the world to where it’s been slowly bleeding it’s magic away for thousands of years. It’s why everything is dying outside of Lothlórien & Rivendell. The rest of the elves are Nandor, Silvan, Falathrim which I think are those of the Falmari… Umanyar, & Avari & more. Moriquendi are the original elves long before ever living in Valinor. Waking to the stars by the Cuivienen River. The elves origins is shrouded in mist. Just like their ethereal existence that’s connected to the earth itself and it’s fate. Oromë (one of the Valar.) called them Eldar, that means "People of the Stars", the Elves that chose to follow him, because when they awoke the stars were the only lights in the sky and for this reason they loved Varda and her creations

[@Makkaru112]

@@markkettlewell7441 There is an entire set of clans of elves with variously different histories depending on when they branched off from the main three. Noldor, Teleri>Sindar (and Vanyar (of which Galadriel is of this branch more than her Noldorin percentage.) She is of the Calaquendi. Means The elves of light in Quenya. Some of the earliest Elves to come into existence, the Calaquendi dwelt in Valinor with the gods during the halcyon/zenith Years of the (Two) Trees, which predate even the First Age of Middle-earth. They are the exalted living ideal version of what the elves were meant to be like in this version of the world before Melkor/Morgoth’s poisonous malice poisoned and damaged the world to where it’s been slowly bleeding it’s magic away for thousands of years. It’s why everything is dying outside of Lothlórien & Rivendell. The rest of the elves are Nandor, Silvan, Falathrim which I think are those of the Falmari… Umanyar, & Avari & more. Moriquendi are the original elves long before ever living in Valinor. Waking to the stars by the Cuivienen River. The elves origins is shrouded in mist. Just like their ethereal existence that’s connected to the earth itself and it’s fate. Oromë (one of the Valar.) called them Eldar, that means "People of the Stars", the Elves that chose to follow him, because when they awoke the stars were the only lights in the sky and for this reason they loved Varda and her creations

[@Makkaru112]

@@markkettlewell7441 guess KZbin is automatically deleting my comments again. Peace

[@Makkaru112]

@@markkettlewell7441 part 2 -They are the exalted living ideal version of what the elves were meant to be like in this version of the world before Melkor/Morgoth’s poisonous malice poisoned and damaged the world to where it’s been slowly bleeding it’s magic away for thousands of years. It’s why everything is dying outside of Lothlórien & Rivendell. The rest of the elves are Nandor, Silvan, Falathrim which I think are those of the Falmari… Umanyar, & Avari & more. Moriquendi are the original elves long before ever living in Valinor. Waking to the stars by the Cuivienen River. The elves origins is shrouded in mist. Just like their ethereal existence that’s connected to the earth itself and it’s fate. Oromë (one of the Valar.) called them Eldar, that means "People of the Stars", the Elves that chose to follow him, because when they awoke the stars were the only lights in the sky and for this reason they loved Varda and her creations

[@mayaboone5756]

The writers having the Elves use the same logic as Boromir when it comes to the rings is one of the stupidest writing decisions I've ever seen. "These things might be evil, but rather than rejecting them altogether, let's instead try to use them ourselves against the evil guy who helped make them!" is the EXACT argument that causes Boromir and other Men to fall to the One Ring. Having the Elves use this same reasoning completely undermines the wisdom and nobility of the Elven race. It's dumb enough to reverse the order of the Rings' forging and have Sauron even marginally involved in the making of the Three, but to then go beyond that and have the Elves continue to use the RIngs makes them no different than any other race. Are the Elves flawed? Yes. Are they inherently morally ambiguous and stupid people? Absolutely not.

[@MorgDragon]

i argued over this fact with a good friend of mine. he is a big tolkien fan and when i pointed out all the garbage from the first season, he said "Its just their creative version, its fine." i died inside.

[@reek4062]

Do you like the Jackson films?

[@Makkaru112]

@@reek4062you’ll see why they’re beloved and earned double digit Oscars. And so forth. Pajasek99 playlist that curated the entire behind the scenes documentary films! ❤

[@HoundMonkey]

19:07 they NEVER had any plans to connect this show to the lord of the rings they always planned to create a new different "modernized" version of the world Tolkien created. Its a crime what they've done.

[@O4C209]

People that say they like Tolkien and like this show really just like Elves, dwarves, and wizards. Consistent story telling, verisimilitude, and canon mean nothing to them.

[@Angrenost02]

I think the sets look fine, but I just disagree with the show's version of Lindon. First it's golden. That's a no. There is only one golden wood, and that's Lorien. Second there are no actual buildings. There are Noldor in this realm and Noldor love building big things with stone. Where are those? You can't convince me that their version of Gil-galad, arrogant prick as he is, hasn't built himself a huge palace with a 50m golden statue of himself.

[@vuton7670]

The show isn't for Tolkien's fans. ROP are for zoomers and those belive they are fans b/c they saw half of Fellowship of the Ring.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@vuton7670 I’m Gen Z and I’m not gonna watch a single episode 😂😂😂😂

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Lindon is also the oldest of the elven kingdoms in middle earth, at least the part that survived the breaking of beleriand. Theyre supposed to have thousands of years of development and architecture.

[@Angrenost02]

@@TheSuperappelflap and its harbor of Mithlond is more or less 3 shabby buildings and 3 ships.

[@doop2541]

They couldn't even getting his costuming right: the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. Silver. NOT gold. Elves valued silver/starlight. It's such a narcissistic piece of garbage--'we are going to do it RIGHT'

[@prussianhill]

I think you might be jumping the gun a bit with thinking Christians are going to be chomping at the bit to criticize Sauron appearing angelic. Tolkien was Christian, a fact not lost on Christians.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

It's sad how ignorant he reveals himself to be, this JSG. He clearly didn't know about the part in the Bible that says that the devil himself can disguise himself as an angel of light.

[@prussianhill]

@NostalgicGamerRickOShay I generally like JSG and his content. Though with JSG being a devoted Tolkien fan I would've thought he would be familiar with the Devil's ability to disguise himself as you described, how how the Devil tempted Jesus with lordship overall the kingdoms on earth if Jesus would but worship him. It's hard to miss how Tolkien used the conceptualization of the Christian devil to write Annatar.

[@DrTimes99]

JSG - Christians are going to be mad because a "fallen angel" character known for deceiving is deceiving someone by appearing angelic. I stopped watching his content for a while because this type of general bigotry was getting in the way of his, for the most part, good reviews. I only came back to hear his thoughts on TRoP because I know what a big Tolkien fan he is.

[@ryonalionthunder]

@@DrTimes99he’s probably not wrong, though. He’s talking about the reactionary Christians, not Christians as a whole. We know they aren’t limited by things like common sense or biblical knowledge. Like, there’s a video right now of a pastor beating a game console with a bat for being satanic. That was recent. You think him and his ilk are going to react to this rationally? Of course, that does assume they’ll find out. Might take a while. 😅

[@AClockworkHellcat]

​@@ryonalionthunder Call those types what they are: ignorant LARPers.

[@pauljanetzke]

Sunk cost fallacy, in for a penny, in for a pound. Sounds like most of this falls into the "super easy, barely an inconvenience" category.

[@stananders2333]

Sunk costs are tight!

[@zenocrate4040]

I deduced from the promotional material for season one that the show either sought to desecrate Tolkien or didn’t understand a single thing about his world or the philosophy fundamental to it. Therefore I have spent some happy years rereading the books, listening to Rob Inglis’ peerless audiobook and watching the simply superb ‘lore videos’ by Tolkien Untangled as well the latter’s accomplished and engrossing alternative adaptation of the same material that Amazon had the rights to. I recommend seeking it out here on KZbin!

[@nicks3766]

Excellent shout out to Rob Inglis 👏

[@HerrRoehrich]

Rainbow Dave really did a splendid job and should definitely have been hired as the screenwriter instead of those clowns.

[@stananders2333]

His take on a 2nd age show would have been awesome

[@jtm1283]

Did it bother you that discount Legolas had no difficulty calming down the ent-wife ... while standing a few feet from his campfire? This drove me nuts, but I haven't seen it commented on.

[@abudabi1995]

I don’t think that’s in this episode tho

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Yeah she was like hurr durr burning wood bad. Elves have fires and forges. How the F does any of this make sense. What are they supposed to do anyway? Mine coal?

[@bellaschnella1602]

@@TheSuperappelflap Coal mining would probably be regarded as grave robbery, given that coal is essentially decomposed, compressed plant matter...

[@richardslammer7574]

I don't know if I've ever told you this before but thank you for watching this shows so I don't have to!

[@uncah_bucchal2953]

I un-subbed from Nerd of the Rings over this show, and I've been with him for 8 years. Respect the lore. I have a signed copy of The Hobbit my mom gave me when I was so young I don't remember it, but it was one of the first books I ever read. She's long gone but this book is "precious" to me, and whomever okayed this (looking at you Simon) just wanted a paycheck.

[@aleksander8497]

Nerd of the Rings makes me angry too

[@uncah_bucchal2953]

I'm not angry at all, just disappointed. Being angry takes too much out of you. We have better things to do.

[@abudabi1995]

@@uncah_bucchal2953didn’t nerd of the rings sell out for this show too?

[@uncah_bucchal2953]

not to defend him, but he's an optimist. we don't have to agree with his opinion, but it is his to make. and yes, I think he did too.

[@goodputin4324]

My condolences on your mom's passing.

[@natp8387]

The thing that makes me laugh is how they seem to think this is D&D and wizards just happen to pop up everywhere.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Its fantasy right? So we need random monsters and wizards. Cant wait for a dragon to show up.

[@RianD-xp3kk]

Oh boy I can't wait for ep4's review. "He is a...Grand-Elf?" Lmao

[@englishlady9797]

They're now making out that the Rings could grant the wearers new powers, which Tolkien said they could not.

[@VladMcCain]

She (Galadriel) was a good strong smart woman in the original books. I mean why do you need to turn her into a caricature of the bad jokes of the "modern woman"?

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Literally Strong Woman from South Park. Cant wait for her to meet PC principal and have a bunch of PC babies.

[@benmiles00]

I have always admired the set designers in the film industry. They are some of the unsung heroes of the business. A set might take weeks to build and only be used for one or two shots. Then they never get any credit, other than being on the end credits, or exposure for their efforts. So it's fantastic when they receive Emmy's, Bafta's and Oscar's. Now we just need the stunts team to get some credit too.

[@whoisyouranime]

I think George R.R. Martin said it best about Hollywood screenwriters adapting other people's works: "There's a few phrases in Hollywood that you want the screenwriter to feel he's free to make it his own. And too many screenwriters do make it their own, even if they are adapting Dickens or Tolkien or Shakespeare or whoever you want. They decide to make it their own. But they never make it better. Because usually, the people who are making their own are simply not as good as the people who wrote it in the first place."

[@kostantza1]

He's absolutely right, and that makes the irony of him saying that more and more bitter each time.

[@andrewmcguinness1845]

No open misogynist could have written a female character as bad as ROP "Galadriel."

[@jl8217]

You are spot -on with the Annatar and Celebrimbor plot criticism...It is impossible to believe Celebrimbor would be fooled by Halbrand/Sauron/Annatar, having been warned by Galadriel that he is not what he seems. Just dumb.

[@toodlescae]

Call Me Chato gave up. Said he can't do it anymore. That he has better things to do with his time. Dude made it through The Acolyte but gave up after 4 episodes of season 2 of ROP.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

I made it through season one of RoP. Gave up after the third episode of this season. I cant even muster the hate to watch it anymore.

[@johndurham6172]

We'll see how much will power Paul Chato has. These videos are pure gold for content creators. Especially now that there's no new Acolyte episodes to make fun of.

[@toodlescae]

@@johndurham6172 🤣🤣

[@toodlescae]

@@TheSuperappelflap I gave up after why a boat floats abd a rock sinks. 🙄

[@toodlescae]

@@TheSuperappelflap I gave up after hearing why a boat floats and a rock sinks. 🙄

[@n.u.k.2188]

The Dark Wizard is probably discount Witch King of Angmar.

[@kaiser3626]

But how he knows who is Gandalf and how he knows Gandalf is a Istari? He seems he had handled that problem a few times. In this show there are plenty of Istari sent to Middle Earth and Gandalf is not an exception?

[@TheSuperappelflap]

No, it will be Khamul.

[@JamesMC04]

It has been suggested that Theo is the future Witch-King of Angmar. That seems plausible enough - Tolkien said that three of the Nazgûl were (IIRC) “three great lords of high Numenorean race”, but not which Nazgûl they became. He also says in Appendix B that the Nazgûl first appeared in Second Age 2251. On the other hand, ROP is not very careful with the timeline.

[@dukeh32]

Actually, Disa also has sort of a beard in SOME of the seance, it's funny how it comes on and off.

[@BanjoSick]

You underestimate the power of self deception people can muster when they think it’s moral duty to like smthg.

[@Geek0ftheWeek]

Listening to JSG suffer for watching Rings of Power reminds me of that one scene in LoTR where Gollum is tied with elven rope. "IT BURNSSS!, IT BURRNNSSS USSSS!!". Sorry JSG, better you than me 😅

[@nyx5376]

I like people who speak the cold, hard truth. Either you love Tolkien's creation or you love the show. You can't have both. Ever.

[@skuripandaburns3489]

Don't forget that the show establishes Sauron's shape-shifting as a long and laborious process involving devouring of life and implying he takes on the attributes of the species he devours, like the Slien Xenomorph. But now he can do it on a whim and instantaneously?

[@gtc4692]

So the dwarf’s that dug out these caverns and built this entire kingdom underground are completely screwed when an earthquake happens and closes off some holes. Could they not just dig out some more holes and move their crops outside until they complete them? I believe there’s a front and back door to this place and couldn’t they rig up some mirrors temporarily bringing light from these 2 sources?

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Dwarves didnt grow many crops or rear livestock, they mostly traded for food with other races, preferring to spend their time underground. That one piece of mithril Durin gives to Celebrimbor could probably afford enough food to feed all of Khazad Dum for a month or more.

[@bazzzzz6175]

I wonder if good writing in this sphere will ever make a comeback. From TV to movies to video games, the quality of writing has just cratered in the last ten years. People running and writing shows who've, likely, never read a book in their lives and have barely been outside their protected little social media bubbles.

[@Muljinn]

Nepo-babies all the way down. Talentless yet well connected.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

All the talented writers quit during the various writers strikes of the past decades where movie studios that make billions refused to pay decent money for decent scripts. As the saying goes, pay peanuts, get monkeys.

[@marychocolatefairy]

One of the big problems for fantasy and scifi in particular is that activism has gotten its hold on them moreso even than in other genres, with that fake "Bechdel test" being forced into just about everything to be "morally compliant". Another problem is that these genres are just not taken seriously by Hollywood as legit art or drama- look how rarely they get in the major awards categories even as nominees. So in the past years they've been putting the unproven writers/directors/actors on these projects and saving the actual talent for other things.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@marychocolatefairy What actual talent? Drama is trash too nowadays

[@Jimmie2429]

Rings of Power - the gift that keeps on giving.

[@chasehedges6775]

One of the shows ever

[@voltaire9176]

Taking*

[@AlexxAmadeo]

Gift in the German sense of the word.

[@freman007]

You could say it was from the Lord of Gifts.

[@blw4089]

It's good for memes and mockery.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

HALBRAND: Accept me as one of you CALEBRIMBOR: You're the enemy, Sauron! HALBRAND: Now, I'm Annatar, the giver of gifts CALEBRIMBOR: Ohhh! You can be my mine...I mean, my apprentice!

[@marckhachfe1238]

I could probably get passed most of the shortcomings of this show and just try to enjoy it, bit the character assassination of galadriel is unforgivable

[@bottlethrower1544]

I hate myself for hating these actors. They are just doing a job, yet I despise them

[@AKS-666]

They can't be sooooo desperately in need for money to play in this shit. ^^

[@TheSuperappelflap]

They signed up for it, they got paid for it, they know it is shit and they dont quit.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yeah, there's just a handful that do seem like they're trying to do their best (most of them bad guys, lol). But most of them really aren't good. Take Morfydd Clark, who makes Galadriel seem even more insufferable by the humorless face she always has. Plus she's unsuited to the the combat scenes she has to do. It also doesn't help that a bunch of those meh actors, including Clark, have gone all in on the fan bashing.

[@Jamespwickstromw]

that female elf main character knows she is hated, you can see it on her face when she has to play in these episodes.

[@kostantza1]

It's a pity, because the guy who plays Halbrand/Sauron has some acting chops, he managed at times to act the hell out of some really bad writing....hope he gets a better job elsewhere. I'm just happy Joseph Mawle left, he's too good an actor to be wasted there.

[@Dave-ks9fi]

There has been a suggestion that the evil guy with the witches is the witch king of Angmar. Which I believe, as they are that dumb and literal in the understanding of words.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

11:00 you are so ignorant in that regard. We Christians immediately understand what the meaning is because the Bible actually says that the devil disguises himself as an angel of light.

[@FraterMerovius]

Sorry, I can't help thinking Celebrimbor looks like Jimmy Dore's brother.

[@timmholl9238]

THAT's where I've seen him! Jimmy Dore.

[@AspasiaB]

I can't unsee this now.

[@yaroslavgerzhedovich6064]

He reminds me of Michael Palin of Monty Python. Sorry, Mr. Palin, I don't want to insult you.

[@warheit13]

Galadrial should have never been the main character. It makes no sense. Honestly They should have had a completely new made up character. Would have made it easier for the writers. It's hard to write characters that are immortal and all wise.

[@pbh9195]

Oooooo wait till the 3rd ep, that was my breaking point

[@tkps]

The only bit I've enjoyed hearing so far (I only see it through reviews) is Elrond getting one up on Galadriel a few times and Gil-galad putting her in her place likely because fans complained so loudly about her 'superwoman' abilities and point blank lying to the others about Halbrand with initially with no consequences. But already she's one upping him and being shown as 'right' so I hope it wasn't a one off but I won't hold by breath.

[@viniciusdelimaalvim2670]

I imagine this show would hit you harder than most. I noticed your reviews of the episodes are not coming as fast as the episodes but... I can't fault you. This is torture for any Tolkien Fan.

[@Darrylizer1]

Isildur, there's a character name Isildur. Just let that sink in. The Isildur that cut the right from Sauron's hand was born 2000 years later. Kill me now.

[@regiszeitlos970]

Ring of Power - It is unforgivable and I will not forget this treacherous act.

[@DrgnLdyLizzie2001]

I thank you for watching this farce of a show so that I and many others don't have to. I can only apologize for the damage it's certainly doing to your mental health, but I truly appreciate you and everything you do.

[@tooslow4065]

no christian will have a problem with that scene. we wont care cause its a *movie*. you spend way too much time thinking about religion. trust me, we dont think about you at all. please stick to actual reviews. you'll get more subs and likes that way

[@francescoporcari8597]

Absolutely, JSG assumes a bit too much when talking about politics and religion, and he's knowledge is quite restrained.

[@Angrenost02]

13:44 If I remember correctly, all of the Calaquendi can perceive the Unseen world. Gandalf says that they live in both world since they have seen the light of the Trees.

[@ryanblack4801]

Strong woman refusing the help of the gods sounds entirely plausible to me. All they have to do for her to cast them out is disagree with her on a trivial matter.

[@stephenridgway2720]

Loved your review, very lore oriented and factual. Well done… fabulous.

[@zam9791]

At least they're consistent on the absurdities.

[@notacyborg1717]

I think i see where they are going with this - Durin will take the ring because he was bullied, and in Numenor the Jack Black looking guy will take a ring because he is power hungry. So subtle.

[@Makkaru112]

Ar-Pharazôn having a ring is such a weird plotline…

[@Alpha___00]

When you write yourself in a corner, you stare digging through wall! I think it’s Dunning-Kruger effect at this point. They know so little that they believe they know everything and can do better than Tolkien himself.

[@Makkaru112]

All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.

[@BlueDog241]

I remember reading that Tolkien was raised Catholic. I know he was against using symbolisms/metaphors but his writing did draw inspiration from other works of fiction and history. So I wouldn't be surprised if some influence from Biblical theology was in his writing too.

[@RoseBaggins]

Oh there definitely was, Jackson used some of those references in the movies.

[@arthurballs9632]

Newbie

[@englishlady9797]

I think a lot of those who claim to like the show are only pretending to do so for fear of being labelled as bigots.

[@kapa1611]

courtlings of the emperor without clothes 🤣

[@mxvega1097]

It makes more sense when you see it as hour-long showreels and b roll for Amazon's advertising strategy. AMZN is so big it can afford to buy MGM to use as its advertising stock image service. The purpose of the scenes, interactions, dress-ups, funny costumes and dialog is simply for trailers, reels, cut-ups, and tiktoks. To promote AMZN.

[@jackdorseysdisappointedfather]

Pretty sure thats not even how lotr wizard powers work. They speak things into existence. They arent harry potter.😑

[@adammyers3453]

Hmm, I think the dark wizard is the witch-king. That seems like the kind of thing the writers would go for.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Its Khamul

[@adammyers3453]

@@TheSuperappelflap That is depressing.

[@joshuasingleton9373]

Cant wait for them to try and somehow make sauron the grandfather of arwen 😂😂😂

[@giggigidy6998]

This show used to make me angry but I just watched E4...and oh what a glorious trainwreck to witness. One just has to laugh at this level of self-induced stupidity 😆

[@Nuneven]

I'm betting the dark wizard is Saruman. I know that doesn't fit with the actual lore, but when has that ever stopped these fools? I'm thinking they'll give him a "redemption" arc, or just have him decide to fake being a good guy.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Its Khamul

[@k.d.8924]

Halbrand: Galadriel did something incredibly stupid and selfish. Celebrimbor: Sounds reasonable.

[@robbiethepict2783]

Tragic what they have done to Celebrimbor. He was nothing like that in the book. Having fought in most of the wars in the First Age and he never trusted Sauron (Annatar) in the Second Age, it was the Elven smiths that created the nine and the seven rings. Celebrimbor created the three Elven rings that Sauron never corrupted.

[@Makkaru112]

Exactly. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please! Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien. Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol. - Remember, Amazon's 2nd age is not Tolkien. It’s a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders & chief writers had stayed true to the original canon. but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision & canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations Should be is how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions & distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times! The timeline presented in Amazon's Rings of Power series does not align with the original Second Age canon created by J.R.R. Tolkien. The series makes several changes and combines events that are separated by hundreds to thousands of years in the original source material, leading to inconsistencies and contradictions. Many Tolkien fans and purists have criticized the show for its departure from the original vision and disrespect for the lore created by the professor. The series is seen as a disappointment and a sign of the times, with some fans even claiming that it is a violation of the sacred works of Tolkien. Sacred because so many peoples lives were saved and transformed by all of his scholarly work. ❤

[@Makkaru112]

All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.

[@rockman7503]

Discount Gandalf is confirmed to be actual Gandalf... what a twist!

[@lsixty30]

Thank you for starting with the good work that many did to make this look great at times

[@Makkaru112]

In later writings Tolkien said that the Blue Wizards were vital in the resistance against Sauron in the East. They were sent in almost a special mission to go East and keep down the numbers of Men who would join Sauron's army. And they were indeed successful in this, and without the Blue Wizards efforts in the East, the armies of Gondor, Rohan, and the "resistance" led by Gandalf would have failed as Sauron's armies would have swelled and straight out over-whelmed them. There are also some less than kind writings about Radagast, who basically became lazy. He was a "good" person, by aiding Gandalf a few times, but with regards to his mission became lazy. And in truth, Gandalf actually knew more about birds and nature than Radagast, which was supposed to be Radagast's "specialty."

[@newtpondskipper]

Okay, okay but what you're failing to consider is that the sea is always right.

[@vuton7670]

10:54 christianity is really based in term of lore Everyone love to hate it but keep using it as reference.

[@jenjenhocho3188]

Yeah, I'm actually more offended that he'd talk about Christians like that than the image from ROP. Next thing we know he'll start doing sociopolitical vids again and that went _soo_ well the last time. I'm not saying no Christian would get offended but at least wait till it happens and get a screenshot so he'll have receipts. The way he did it makes it looks like he hates Christians just because they're Christians.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

Jsg reveals himself to be ignorant once again because he fails to realize that the Bible actually says that the devil can disguise himself as an angel of light which is what sauron does in the show.

[@clintmichigan9112]

​@@NostalgicGamerRickOShay Even more interesting is that the devil and god ( pick a god any god ) don't actually exist.

[@katemaloney4296]

I would've been more impressed if they had shown restraint and stopped while they were ahead. However, they seem to have OD'd on "Hold my hobbit!"

[@chasehedges6775]

They’ve been dropping the ball since it was greenlit😂😂

[@Muljinn]

Well, Amazon is ostensibly on contract for five seasons of this shit. Now, if *I* were Papa Bezos, I’d have taken the contract hit and dumped this garbage after the first season.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Muljinn 5 Seasons? 🤣🤣

[@timbotron4000]

These writers are hacks, plain and simple. They're so reliant on memberberries and references to the PJ films

[@josemanueldetemmer4495]

I'm catholic and I survived this year's Olympics, nothing from this series is going to offend me at all, because I take it as proof that no matter how much money they have, they cannot create anything meaningful and durable.

[@AClockworkHellcat]

What do the Olympics have to do with it?

[@josemanueldetemmer4495]

@@AClockworkHellcat the author of the video stated that the image of Annatar emerging from the dusk and the flames could be offensive for the Christians. And in the last Olympics opening we saw a "parody" of the Last Supper. In any case I didn't feel offended because both performances were horrendous and hated by a majority.

[@abelingaw5070]

The REAL question is: How are they being affected (negatively) by the ring when Sauron hasn't made the one ring yet. This show is sh*t asf.

[@patw1687]

At 11:14. For a Christian who knows Scripture, this scene would not be blasphemous. The angel of darkness would disguise himself as an angel of light to deceive the unwary.

[@christianefiorito3204]

Many people say they are Tolkien fans but know nothing about him

[@fundorgon]

"Wisest and fairest of all" .....🤣

[@MC-810]

As always, a well done and thought-provoking video. Truly appreciate your take.

[@ITSREALLYNOTYOURFAULT]

"i'm black, i can say it" 🤣

[@1Flyingfist]

"What did he sayyyyyyyyy😮😳😤?!" Ah ok then. 😅

[@LuigiL75]

Don't Listen To Them Amazon, You're Doing Great!!! KEEP. BURNING. MONEY. 🙌🏾 🤣

[@chadwolf3840]

Sad they wasted all this budget on amazing sets and ruined it with 3rd grade writing.

[@coloradospacegeek4226]

Your objection to the unknown wizard being Saruman presupposes the idiots writing for this show actually read any of Tolkien’s works as opposed to just watching the movies.

[@Makkaru112]

They don’t even follow the movies either. They’ve got all the rights to all 3 books and their detailed appendices which cover several chronological events throughout his other 26 books which were written first before trilogy got published.

[@movoo6077]

I agree with the conclusion... No True Fan of the Professor's work could not like this show. Unless they sold out.

[@colvamoon6962]

In defense (wait until the end to bash me), you CAN be a fan of something, and still like a poor adaptation of it. But the circumstances have to be unique. I'll use myself as an example. Eragon and the Inheritance Cycle books. Years ago, I watched Eragon. Thought it was good. Years later, i see the books at my local library. I then realized that no sequel was made. When i went to find out why, I learned it was bashed, which confused me. I read the book and learned why, and I agree with them. I then finished the book series. I still enjoy the movie, but I also understand why it got the hate it did.

[@eschelar]

Probably the best of all the people trashing this shit show. Lore is always on point and perception of story dynamics is laser focused. Appreciate you man.

[@Gamer1288]

Less mentally taxing when you convince yourself that this show HAS to be a Parody of Tolkien. It is the only way to make sense of it.

[@masamune2984]

Is it a coincidence that both Rings of Power AND The Acolyte, two shows NOTORIOUS for terrible writing, both have a character called “The Stranger”?