JW cannot debate these verses from their own bible..Proving Jesus is GOD

This is how you prove Jesus is God using the new world translation. In their own bible there are thousands of mistakes. I love to use on the JW material to prove to them that no matter what, God's Word will stand.
Please show these verses to the next Jehovah witness who comes to your door. Use love and kindness, and hopefully we can win more brothers and sisters to Christ.

[@devinmedeiros9466]

I am a ex jw and I love Jesus Christ so very much

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@devinmedeiros9466 amen. I do to!! We were all at once an "EX" of something. And then there came Jesus. BEST day of my life. Thank you Jesus!!! God bless you sir!!

[@michaelhaigh9182]

You dident learn the scriptures il help you John 1 v 1 is correct in the new world translation ? Why because this is how it is ment to read in the beginning was the word that is Jesus and the word was with TON THEON GOD and the word was THEOS Jesus A god so for some reason Jesus ain’t TON THEON may be you can ask her ? Why Then if you go and read revelation 1 v 1 and find out who gave Jesus who this lady saying is GOD the revelation? If Jesus is GOD then no need to get the revelation of God ?

[@ScottJackson.]

@@letsmakeitmakesense it only shows the son represents his God inherited names

[@UnprofitableServant09]

John 14:23-24 KJV [23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. [24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. Romans 10:17 KJV [17] So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

[@AngelCastroOffical]

Wow! Definitely will show this video! Amazing job!

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@AngelCastroOffical thanks brother!! 😊

[@shamounian]

great job.

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

Thank you!!! 😊

[@rocky101latest]

I needed these. Its hard to prove to a JW that Jesus is God. But This will help a lot!

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@rocky101latest I have tons more coming!!

[@mrm8850]

you mean sun god worship?

[@cristylsaligumba5797]

Wow😊

[@michaelhaigh9182]

@@rocky101latest this want prove any thing as Jesus ain’t God almighty the scriptures il put up the 1st is John 1 v 18 reads that God loved the world that mutch that he gave his only begotten son ? Begotten is from the Greek word mono genes witch means only begotten 2 nd John 1 v 1 God did not have a beginning ? So this verse is saying that Jesus was there when God created the hevan and the earth so this is what John 1 v 1 is saying in the beginning was the word jesus and the word was with TON THEON the father and the word was THEOS a god then 3rd we have revelation 3 v 14 witch Jesus is saying that he is the faithful and true witness the beginning of the creation by God then 4th scripture is Colossians 1 v 15 the first born of all creation before he outher angels but not before TON THEON JEHOVAH as he has all ways excited

[@praiseofhisgrace3178]

Brilliant!!!👍💥I didn't even see these before! great job Knieshia!!! Well done!!

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@praiseofhisgrace3178 thank you Chaba!! 😊 I have so many more. I've been researching verses in the JW bible for YEARS! All led by the Holy Spirit. Glory to Him!

[@praiseofhisgrace3178]

Amen Sis!🙏Great research, and definitely guided by our Lord’s Holy Spirit! You’re very sharp! As you say: All Glory To Him🙌🌟💖🙏💪

[@debbieroberts9216]

So useful. Thank you

[@mrm8850]

your a sun god worshipper.

[@StartUpThree]

Eye-opening!

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

Thank you so much!!!! 😊😊😊😊😊

[@mrm8850]

yep trinity babylonian sun worship is just that.

[@jtopdawg6]

Great video, just subscribed

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

Aw thank you. I appreciate the positive encouragement. God bless you!! 🙌 🙏✝️

[@aservantofJEHOVAH7849]

Luke Ch.1:32NIV"He will be great and will be called the Son of the MOST HIGH. The LORD God will give him the throne of his father David," John Ch.10:29NIV"My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than ALL c ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. " The God and Father of Jesus christ is the MOST HIGH God and thus is co equal to no one. John Ch.8:54NIV"Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. " According to Jesus his God and Father is the one and only God of Israel . By common consent the God and Father of Jesus is not triune. Therefore the one and only God of Israel is not triune. John ch.20:17NIV"Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”" The God and Father of Jesus is not triune by common consent . The God and Father of Jesus is also the God and Father of Jesus' disciples . Therefore the God and Father of Jesus' disciples is not triune. Matthew Ch.24:36NIV"“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, f but ONLY the Father. " ONLY the God and Father of Jesus Christ is omniscient thus only the God and Father of Jesus Christ is the MOST HIGH God. Roman's Ch.1:9EHV"To be sure, (the)God, whom I serve with my spirit by proclaiming the gospel of his Son, is my witness to how constantly I make mention of you. In all my prayers, " Roman's Ch.3:30NIV"since there is only ONE(Grk.eis) God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. " Paul was an actual monotheist and thus rendered exclusive sacred service to one most high God. Whom he clearly identifies as the God and Father of Jesus Christ. Matthew Ch.16:16NKJV"Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”" not merely the living Father but the living God to whom all believers owe EXCLUSIVE Devotion/Sacred Service. Malachi Ch.2:10NIV"Do we not all have one Father b ? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?" The God and Father of Jesus Christ is the only true God.

[@michaelhaigh9182]

@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 your correct this lady who has put her vidio on is not correct il go to we’re it say THE LORD that is what scholers call the nomina sacra sacred names that the Bible translates changed to that it is ment to read JEHOVAH but they changed it to the LORD but that is not what they wrote in the first place ? In the scriptures

[@reallifehorsemanship4333]

Excellent 🌟 Another good talking point with them; is how they always reference the Bible with Bible truth, Bible study, the Bible says… Bible this, Bible that etc… However; on their new world translation, the word Bible is nowhere to be found. So thus; how can they call their translation the Bible??

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

Oooohhhhhh!!!!! EXCELLENT!!!!!!! that's a great one. Thank you!!! Very good!

[@mirekmazur3822]

What an embarrassment. The Bible is a format for writing text and means book (Greek biblion). At some point in history, the holy scriptures began to be colloquially called the Bible, because they most often appeared in this format

[@reallifehorsemanship4333]

What an embarrassment!… you missed the point.

[@ultimatemordecai]

Excellent! Well done 👏

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@ultimatemordecai aw thank you!! I want to reach people. God so loved the world He died for all of us. I just want people to know the real God because He's BEAUTIFUL

[@ultimatemordecai]

@@letsmakeitmakesense yes, He certainly is.

[@RebirthOutOfTheMatrix]

Great video 😊please expose all forms of replacement theology

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@RebirthOutOfTheMatrix thank you so much. And yes, that's what I'm aim to do 🫠✝️✡️🙏🙌

[@yvkiza]

Governing Body taking notes, hopefully their next bible update doesn't patch these

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@yvkiza Yeah, they always change their doctrine. Recently, they removed the ability to look at the interlinear in English. I was like WHAT!! WHERED IT GO? but GOOD THING I have a video showing their website interlinear.

[@mrm8850]

as much as they worship RAI trinity the same sun god worship.

[@austineprataph4824]

Super

[@aservantofJEHOVAH7849]

Actually JEHOVAH'S Servants believe that both the Father and the Son are coming. Isaiah ch.40:10ASV"Behold, the Lord JEHOVAH will COME as a mighty one, and his arm will rule for him: Behold, his reward is with him, and his recompense before him." The Son is the father's representative. So anything by and to him can be said to be done to and by JEHOVAH. Just as anything done to and by Christ representative can be said to be done to by Christ. Acts ch.3:26NIV"When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways.” Of course the risen Christ did not literally appear to those first century Hebrews, but the testimony of his authorized representatives was equivalent to an appearance by the risen Christ. The apostle Paul even applies a Messianic prophecy to himself and Barnabus. Acts ch.13:47NIV"For this is what the Lord has commanded us: “’I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’” Compare Isaiah ch.42:6

[@darrenkoglin3423]

The true Christ is the one approved by his father YHWH, yeshua tells us himself all that he says and does is the woll of the one whom sent me,SIMPLES,YESHUA also tells us all he says are the words that his father puts in his mouth

[@user-qj4od3cy7p]

⁠ ​​and ALSO, notice that even in their NWT “2013 Bible” it says in Isaiah 44:24 “I am Jehovah, who made everything. I stretched out the heavens by MYSELF, And I spread out the earth. WHO WAS WITH ME? So even in THEIR new bible, Jehovah is telling us in the Old Testament that Jesus IS HIM. Jesus didn’t exist in heaven as a Son BEFORE he was born on earth (as the JWs teach). Jehovah (in a way) is saying that “Jesus IS the almighty creator, but just in human form” 😊🔥✊🏾

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh! love it!!!!! well said!!!! Amen to that!

[@edwardbarnard5830]

Three things. First, you badly misrepresent the Jehovah's Witnesses belief concerning the Son of God. Jehovah's Witnesses *do* accept what the Bible teaches, that Jesus was the Son of God before he was born a man. Secondly, you take Isaiah 44.24 out of context. Jehovah was saying that none of the gods of the nations surrounding Israel were with him when he created the heavens and the Earth, that these are mere idols, made by the people of those nations. Read Isaiah 44.9-20. Thirdly, according to Hebrews 1.1(please read carefully), when we read of God speaking in the OT, that one will be the Father, not the Son. Hence, Hebrews 1.1 shows it was not Jesus speaking in Isaiah 44.

[@user-qj4od3cy7p]

@@edwardbarnard5830 FOURTHLY… you disobey Jehovah because the Governing Body told you NOT to comment or even LOOK at “apostate” videos online 😂😂😂🔥🔥✌🏾🖕🏾

[@user-qj4od3cy7p]

@@edwardbarnard5830 FOURTHLY… you disobey Jehovah because the Governing Body told you NOT to comment or even LOOK at “apostate” videos online😂😂😂🔥🖕🏾🖕🏾 Next time read your whole Bible and stop letting Man Made PUBLICATIONS speak for you.

[@user-qj4od3cy7p]

@edwardbarnard5830 FOURTHLY… you disobey Jehovah because the Governing Body told you NOT to comment or even LOOK at “apostate” videos online😂😂🔥🖕🏾🖕🏾

[@MC-sd1uy]

Hello Tech YHWH, 1) Rev. 1:8; Rev. 22:20… 2) Rev. 22:6-7; Rev. 22:20…. 3) Rev. 22:16; Rev. 22:20. Really? Hahaha!!! Have not read Romans 2:11, 16??? 4) Rev. 21:22-23; Rev. 22:5… really? So you can’t understand that anointed Christians will be given light directly from Jehovah God, as opposed to through his only begotten son Jesus Christ, who is the lamp?

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@MC-sd1uy it's much deeper than how you're seeing it. I mean that in absolutely NO disrespectful way. I'll be doing a video on that very thing here soon. It'll be detailed and hopefully will answer some of your questions. Thanks for commenting. This wasn't a deep detailed video. Just a quick 6 min video showing connecting verses.

[@MC-sd1uy]

@tech YHWH, So I am assuming you read Romans 2:6, 16? Sorry about last comment. I mistyped Romans 2:11, 16 instead of Romans 2:6, 16. There we learn Jehovah God, who alone is the Father, comes to judge through his only begotten son Jesus Christ. Please do not shout victory until you have taken into consideration all scriptures that clarify the biblical topic in place.

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@MC-sd1uy deal

[@StevenChristopherDeHaven]

His only begotten son. The father is inmortal can not die. The reinity is a man made doctrine not taught in the bible. I encourage you to buy the book the two bablyon's but axelander hyslop the trinity is in and pagan religions i. One form or another it was brought into Christianity by Constantine

[@ScottJackson.]

Constantine the founder of the Catholic church

[@harryn2304]

Are you a trinitarian?

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@harryn2304 I know that The Father is God The Son is God And The Spirit is God One God! I boldly proclaim it✝️✡️🙏🙌🎊😊

[@UnprofitableServant09]

Jehovah is not the pronounciation of the Tetragrammaton or YHWH It's Yahu at least in part. Yahu-WH This comes from Psalms 68:4(In the LSB or KJV, most other Bibles simply say The LORD) Yahu comes from the names of the Prophets in Hebrew like Jeremiah or Yirmeyahu which means "The LORD exalts" or "God will lift up" There's also Isaiah which is Yashayahu/Yeshayahu which means "God is salvation" Yirme-Yahu Yesha-Yahu There is also Halleluyah Hallelu-YAH Or Praise Yah Remember to study to shew thyself approved and keep God's commandments Revelation 14:12 KJV [12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. May Yah bless you

[@Trublu52]

People worry about such things Did he have long hair did he have a beard but the last thing g people worry about is there conduct Everything els plus’s

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@Trublu52 I agree

[@shirleyprestidge4649]

Read reverlation 1 /1-13 that’s Jesus where other scripture is reverlation 22 Get the facts right 13

[@jimjuri6490]

Another vain attempt to make Jesus into God by juggling words. Revelation 1:1 clearly shows Jesus not being God. Because Jesus had no knowledge about the future. God had to GIVE Jesus the Revelation to pass on. Almighty God is GIVING Jesus the Revelation and in some bizarre way, Jesus usurps the God who is GIVING him the Revelation and becomes God himself???????????? (Zechariah 8:3) “This is what Jehovah says, ‘I will return to Zion and reside in Jerusalem; and Jerusalem will be called the city of truth, and the mountain of Jehovah of armies, the holy mountain.’” These 'I am returning, I will reside', are not to be taken literally. It means that God will turn his attention to and guide his people. 'I am coming quickly' is not God himself coming. He will use various individuals to carry out His purpose. Jesus also known as Michael is the one referred to. Revelation 22:8 Well I, JOHN, was the one hearing and seeing these things. 20 “The one who BEARS WITNESS OF THESE THINGS says, ‘Yes, I am coming quickly.’” “Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.” Who is coming quickly. John or Jesus?

[@aservantofJEHOVAH7849]

There is more trinitarian style evidence that Moses is JEHOVAH Than there is that Jesus is JEHOVAH. For instance, Isaiah ch.10:26NIV"The LORD Almighty will lash them with a whip, as when he struck down Midian at the rock of Oreb; and he will raise his staff over the waters, as he did in Egypt." We all know that it was Moses who raised his staff when the ancient Hebrews escape Egypt See Exodus ch.14:16, so we have clear trinitarian style evidence that Moses us in fact JEHOVAH. And what about king David, Luke ch.1:32NIV"He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The LORD God will give him the throne of his father David," Now note Jesus father is the Most High, Jesus Father is David thus Ala trinitarian logic David is the most high that is JEHOVAH. Need more trinitarian style proof? 1Chronicles ch 29:20KJV"And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the LORD your God. And all the congregation blessed the LORD God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the LORD, and the king." Trinitarians claim that because Jesus receives worship (proskuneo in greek) this must mean that he is equal to his God and Father. Well here we have David receiving proskuneo along side JEHOVAH Clear trinitarian style evidence that he is a member of the godhead.

[@abraham7177]

You forgot to read Revelation 1:1 who gave Jesus divine information? Well from “his God,” while in heaven, thereby disproving the Trinity.-Revelation 1:1; 3:2, 12.

[@srich7503]

History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church, guided by the Holy Spirit, that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century, just 65 years AFTER the council of Nicaea which began the Trinitarian doctrine and subsequent councils of Ephesus and Chalcedon, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?

[@abraham7177]

@srich7503 the books of the Bible we have is all we need to understand who God is and who his son is and why believe non-biblical, pagan doctrine of the Trinity that has been used to oppress and to persecute biblical Christians since at least the early 4th century CE, and gave the rise of Constantine the Pagan which those heretics forced the false Trinity doctrine unto Christians

[@srich7503]

@@abraham7177 good luck with that paradigm in all the confusion it has created. In the mean time if you ever get the guts to answer my question above i will be waiting…

[@abraham7177]

@srich7503 yea like the fact you can't answer explicate text that contradict the false doctrine Trinity God bless you brother

[@srich7503]

@@abraham7177 why would i? The fact that the doctrine came BEFOER the Bible is enough for me. So the burden is on you …

[@shirleyprestidge4649]

There are two scriptures are in reverlation one verse for Jesus and one for Jehovah so you wrong check bible try reverlation 22-13 this one refers to almighty God where the other one refers to Christ so check your bibles need to know the scriptures before u speak before u go off on a tangent jw know the bible you obviously don’t so before u preach lern to teach to many cooks turns the broth do your research

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@shirleyprestidge4649 rev 22:13 is Jesus talking.

[@rehcoorijola4598]

There's no more arguments in both of you as you both have the anti covid19 vaccines.. Romans 11:4

[@StevenChristopherDeHaven]

Yahuah is God and Yahusha is his son there is no trinity read your whole bible

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@StevenChristopherDeHaven what does that make Jesus?

[@ChevyNova632bigblockchevy]

​@@letsmakeitmakesensehis only begotten Son and His Agent to name a few!!

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@ChevyNova632bigblockchevy son is a title not a What. And I disagree. He is not an angel. And angels means messenger. What are angels? They are spirits.

[@StevenChristopherDeHaven]

​@letsmakeitmakesense Jesus never said he was the father in fact he said the father is greater then I the father is inmortal and can not die Jesus prayed to his father had minister to him the Almighty God does not need to get ministered to by no one he is the father who raised his only begotten son back to life so we can have a ransom and a mediator why would God be mediator to himself thats ridiculous I suggest you read your Bible yourself and do your own research.

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@StevenChristopherDeHaven I don't believe Jesus is the Father. The Son is not the Spirit. And the Father not the Holy Spirit. 3 persons 1 being

[@fkrsnofficial6095]

You’re wasting your time This doesn’t prove anything Holy Spirit is not in you You don’t even pray for it If you don’t come to learn the truth in this system, Jesus will teach you all of the truth during the 1000 years

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@fkrsnofficial6095 ok 🤷‍♀️

[@user-yt5mh7kn6d]

Romans 8:9,11 says the Holy Spirit dwells IN YOU

[@mrm8850]

i bet you have not realized yet that your trinity is sun god worship that such people called constantine and Nicaea and Damascus called christianity called sun worship, such adopted paganistic trinity sol invictus. constantine change the sabbath from saturday and changed it to sunday meaning sun worship.2nd and 3rd century paganistic practices. we see christmas adopted called sun worship sol invictus.what does this mean you have been mislead by paganistic worshippers.

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

Yeah I know all about the sun worshipping. I know the pagen history. Our God who is Father Son Spirit is nothing even close to the pagen gods. Those are false made up gods made by demons and man. There is the True and Living God YHWH 🙏 🙌

[@michellestephens7225]

JESUS PLEADED WITH GOD TO SAVE HIM FROM DEATH. HEBREWS 5:7-9 JEHOVAH DID SAVE JESUS FROM DEATH BY RESURRECTING HIM BACK TO LIFE. JESUS SAID HE IS NOT GOD. JOHN 12:49, MARK 10:18 JESUS SAID WHEN HE SPEAKS, THE WORDS ARE NOT HIS, BUT BELONGS TO HIS FATHER. JOHN 7:16, JOHN 14:24, JOHN 8:28, JESUS SAID WHOEVER DOES NOT WORSHIP HIS FATHER AND WORSHIPS HIM INSTEAD ARE HIS ENEMIES. MATTHEW 7:21-23 JESUS PRAYED TO JEHOVAH TO MAKE JEHOVAH'S NAME KNOWN, AND JEHOVAH ANSWERED JESUS THAT HE WILL AND MANY HEARD. JOHN 12:28 JESUS TAUGHT HIS FOLLOWERS TO PRAY FOR HIS FATHER'S NAME TO BE HALLOWED. LUKE 11:1-2 NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN GOD, AT ALL. JOHN 1:18, 1 JOHN 4:12 THOUSANDS HAVE SEEN JESUS JEHOVAH TOLD MOSES HE MADE HIM GOD TO PHARAOH, WAS MOSES GOD? EXODUS 7:1 WHEN JESUS WAS ON EARTH, HE WAS LOWER THAN THE ANGELS. HEBREWS 2:9 JESUS WAS A PROPHET LUKE 24:19 JESUS WAS AN APOSTLE HEBREWS 3:1 JESUS WAS A MINISTER ROMANS 15:8 JESUS WAS GOD'S REPRESENTATIVE. JOHN 7:29 JESUS SAID HE WAS GOD'S HELPER. 1 JOHN 2:1-2 JESUS SAID HE HAS A GOD. JOHN 20:17 JESUS WAS A FAITHFUL "WITNESS OF JEHOVAH." REVELATION 1:5, 1 TIMOTHY 6:13

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

WHAT do you say Jesus is? I'm being very clear I'm NOT asking WHO. WHAT is jesus? Right now?

[@mrm8850]

trinity is constantine sun god worship.

[@srich7503]

You are certainly welcome to believe and profess whatever you want to believe, there are plenty of different beliefs in the world. But to glean this from OUR Trinitarian book, the Bible, is just plain silly… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?

[@mrm8850]

@@srich7503 your a sun god worshipper of constantine who adopted it Goose.

[@mrm8850]

@@srich7503 your a worshipper of babylon and many other pagan gods as trinity is cun god worship not christ.your cross is sun god worship lol.

[@user-br6px6ok9x]

No...anything written in one of those books does NOT prove God. If that was the case then Gandalf would be real 🤦

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@user-br6px6ok9x ok 🤷‍♀️

[@daveorourke2468]

Well it's quiet obvious a creator exists. Creation is the evidence of that.. you can't have creation without a creator, just like you can't have a painting without a painter

[@ronhansen8471]

JWs do not debate

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@ronhansen8471 ok 👍

[@Jane-nv4vv]

I'm not JW, and even I know that Jesus isn't God. Maybe you should read that in the original text, BEFORE they MISTRANSLATED some things in scripture

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@Jane-nv4vv okay 👍

[@mrm8850]

adopted by constantine called sun god worship trinity.

[@srich7503]

@Jane-nv4vv - You are certainly welcome to believe and profess whatever you want to believe, there are plenty of different beliefs in the world. But to glean this from OUR Trinitarian book, the Bible, is just plain silly… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?

[@sotterson8544]

Before you open your mouth, perhaps you should open your Bible… John 1:1-3; Matthew 20:28; John 10:27-30…. How many times does Jesus need to proclaim His deity before your foolish people listen to Him?!?!

[@mrm8850]

@@sotterson8544 Foolish is someone who adopted Trinity in the 3rd century buy a bunch of clowns who worshipped the sun made it law.trinity is a trian paganistic god.

[@edwardbarnard5830]

You bring up Revelation 1.8. If you look at v.4 you will see they are both speaking of the same being. But the One in v.4 is differentiated from the Jesus Christ of v.5. Hence, the One in v.8 can not be Jesus Christ either!

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

Jesus is God

[@edwardbarnard5830]

@@letsmakeitmakesense Who is God?

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@edwardbarnard5830 ask yourself that question

[@edwardbarnard5830]

@@letsmakeitmakesense I want to know who you think God is. So, tell me, who is God? Is God three divine persons or one?

[@mrm8850]

they are mislead by constantine sun god worship.

[@gregorystuby2761]

The children of ISRAEL, the people of The Most High GOD MUST NOT be deceived by 'the New Testament',! Their God, who brought them out of slavery, and placed them in a good land, gave them laws, statutes, commandments, and also made covenants with them, instructed them to keep His words FOREVER. He did NOT give a 'New Testament' to them.

[@PanTadeusz-ku1vj]

FALSE

[@letsmakeitmakesense]

@@PanTadeusz-ku1vj ok 👍

[@puncastle5150]

You cannot base an argument using Revelations, because it was written by an unknown person named John, who claimed to have a revelation in his dreams. The entire book is from one unknown person’s dreams. There is no evidence that the book was inspired by God. No person of rationale will rely on the dreams of a random, unknown person to base their afterlife on, especially when it contradicts the message of Jesus and all previous prophets.

[@ScottJackson.]

where are the contradictions?

[@puncastle5150]

@@ScottJackson. too many to list here. I’ll start with a few: -- A man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:28 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelation 20:12-13 -- The Book of Revelation states that no one knows Jesus’ name: His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. Revelation 19:12 -- The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ. Acts 10:36 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11

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@@puncastle5150 works by grace

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@@ScottJackson.in scripture, “works” refers to righteous deeds, whereas “Grace” refers to God’s Mercy in forgiving our sins. The verses are contradictory to each other.

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@@puncastle5150 righteous deeds by grace it is not of ourselves