Kail BACK TO FILMING! DRAGS Chris & EXPOSES PRIVATE EMAILS!

[@megan7506]

I’d rather have a child with a rock over Chris. How he managed to have 3 children with 2 different women is beyond me. You do ultimately choose who you have children with - choose wisely.

[@chelseagriffin3148]

😂😂😂 girl not a rock! This is sooo accurate!!!!

[@heatherwarden2689]

Hmmm I'd do 'the Rock' Dwyane 😆

[@Erin___M]

I wouldn’t want to have a kid with either of these clowns

[@mg192]

I mean kail did the same thing but with 3 men

[@ginanault4165]

How the hell did she think it would be good idea to have another child with him is beyond me! She's an idiot and she has to live with her decision. The Kids didn't ask for this shit!

[@lyonrocketman]

At this point, CPS need to investigate both Chris and Kail. Their mutual level of ridiculous behavior and damaging allegations against each other is outrageous. A family judge needs to force both parents be placed under supervision

[@colleen1219]

I agree as far as both their mental stability. They seem to put their kids at risk. For their own pettiness. Honestly though I have said this before. If my kid is sick and you’re not getting back to me. I’m already at your doorstep. Trying to do everything I could for my child.

[@kaykay2031]

Agreed and they need to put in the order that they cannot talk about this stuff in publicly.

[@iiram_al]

CPS? Lol relax, their kids are fed, well clothed, have a home and a new one being built. Yes kail is ridiculous in her personal life but she’s already in therapy and whether it’s helping or not in any CPS eyes those kids don’t need their services. Maybe save CPS for children getting beat, abused, starved, tortured, homeless, etc… get real!! CPS needs to be involved with kids like Gabriel Fernandez not Kails kids !

[@MsFriendly2009]

@@iiram_al in the state I live this is considered a form of neglect so technically CPS could be involved.

[@marietourniquet]

@@iiram_al Thank you! I was thinking the same thing. Chris was shitty, for sure! However, CPS is a stretch and even if they were called, they'd fucking laugh. They wouldn't even waste their time! They have bigger fish to fry, for sure.

[@annajoie700]

Kail really just needs to disengage.. It's really obsessive.. UGH! 😩😑

[@uglyfromwithin]

I was literally about to say the same thing! She's giving me white lady from obsession trying to kill Beyonce and Idris Elba.

[@kelliesuggs93]

Unfortunately this drama creates her money/views & attention. She’ll never stop

[@jesuschristfollower3867]

She’s so obsessed with him!!

[@Megan-tz1uq]

If my child has a fever at her dad’s house I would definitely want to be informed. These two need to stop talking about each other on social media. It’s insane.

[@jelissasmith6971]

Yes but if the relationship is volatile like theirs it’s not necessary.

[@Megan-tz1uq]

@@jelissasmith6971 it’s the health of the babies. Me and my ex are volatile but if he calls me and tells me my daughter has a high fever for several days imma put my feelings to the side and get my baby

[@LBDesignsIIV]

I don’t call my child’s father when my child is with me and has a little fever. When we switch, I’ll tell him the baby was sick. Its not that big of a deal.

[@Megan-tz1uq]

@@LBDesignsIIV I’m the custodial parent and I don’t usually let my child’s other parent know unless I have to keep her from school. Her dad has never taken her to the doctor or anything truly.

[@LBDesignsIIV]

@@Megan-tz1uq I’m custodial, but my ex-husband is custodial over healthcare. So, there’s that.

[@invalidusername883]

I have 4 kids all close in age and we’ve had Hand, Foot, Mouth as it’s highly contagious and usually spreads thought Preschools. It’s similar to chicken pox and miserable. It depends on how bad you get it, but imagine having wounds on your hands, feet, and the inside of your mouth. 😢 there’s really nothing you can do except magic mouth wash for the oral blisters. Chris only wants his boys for content or to manipulate Kail and have access to her. Definitely not grown up vibes.

[@Honeyhollywood115]

Yes it was horrible I agree

[@the_real_scarrr]

My kids both had it years ago and it was so bad😩

[@jasminelewis2472]

Kail is petty Betty BUT I'd be pissed if my kids were away from me..I'm not notified of illness and the dad didn't have him checked out 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@martharobledo985]

💯

[@heatherwarden2689]

She took them abroad IN A PANDEMIC and have them catch Covid! I bet she didn't tell their baby daddies they were ill or symptomatic! Hell no all the baby daddies and their other baby mamas and spawn all got it too

[@SkarGig]

Chris is the kind of guy who probably doesn't care when his kids are sick. Not a paternal bone in his body. Why does he keep making babies?

[@tonyahenry5198]

Chris Lopez sperm work but he doesn’t 😂🤣😂

[@sheenah8594]

@@tonyahenry5198 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alyssadana5011]

@@tonyahenry5198 Lmfaooo

[@mckenziejean9209]

He's a professional sperm donor!

[@elegantlywasted3702]

She didn’t tell him that she was in an accident with Lux and Creed in the car. Yes, they were fine but, that is something that needs to be communicated as well. Both are petty and need to communicate better about their kids.

[@alejandraromero6042]

She took care of the situation. Yes she should of said something. But he did not do anything for the kids . Or ask her to do anything for them .

[@yuzbyevelyn3078]

Also she’s blocked so apparently he doesn’t care to have communication about the kids while they’re with their mother.

[@elegantlywasted3702]

@@yuzbyevelyn3078 Javi and Jo have her blocked as well. Kail is toxic even if the other parent is trash.

[@elegantlywasted3702]

@@alejandraromero6042 While I agree that he should have done something or said something, I’d imagine Kail would have blown up sniffles. She got mad at Jo for Isaac had a headache.

[@SherryBerryXO]

I’m with Kail on this. He should’ve let her know their kids were sick. Period. No excuse.

[@kadobi189]

She didn’t let him know she was in an accident….

[@alejandraromero6042]

Her kids where not harm. She took care of the situation. Not only he did not tell her . I did not do anything for the kids

[@jendom0112]

They BOTH have GOT TO STOP with the social media battle!!! It’s incredibly unfair to those kids! They need mandated parenting classes and then eventually coparenting sessions. Mark my words here- They’re going to grow up dysfunctional and they will be able to access all of this on social media and they WILL choose sides. One of them is going to lose the relationship with those kids. It really needs to STOP!! Where is cps?? 😡

[@scz1770]

Idk why Kail was mad about him leaving with the baby while Lux was with his mom. HFMD is super contagious, I'd separate them too.

[@Amanda_627]

I believe it’s against their court order

[@rachael4512]

If Creed had a high fever I would guess he had it too (unless he was ill with something else) and shouldn't really be going around visiting people either.

[@scz1770]

@@Amanda_627 I mean, that may be true, but also, that doesn't make sense. Like as long as they're with a reliable adult, does it matter?

[@Amanda_627]

@@scz1770 if it’s in a court order you have to do it. I wonder though if he told Kail it wouldn’t be as bad. Should have just went to an urgent care to be safe in the beginning.

[@shaunettawilson4999]

There's no treatment for Hand Foot and Mouth disease. If grandma recognized that's what he had she may have told Chris look all we can do is give him Tylenol and keep him hydrated, meaning a trip to urgent care is useless, except for Creed's fever which obviously needed to be monitored.

[@kbp1656]

Still not her place tho, mom should ALWAYS be notified !!!!!

[@shaunettawilson4999]

@@kbp1656 I do think Kail should have been notified, by that same token Chris should not have found out his children were in a car accident via Instagram.

[@marietourniquet]

Straight up! The high fever was the only urgent thing about this situation. He should have told Kail they were sick, but all else is so extra.

[@sandyrivera5025]

Kids get sick everyday, maybe he thought it was a cold. Not feeling sorry for Kail at all she knew what she was getting involved in when she had 2 children with a deadbeat person in general. Oh well she will have to deal with him🤷‍♀️

[@Yezel93]

Exactly

[@lynrosario6756]

Isn't she taking Bree to court for addressing things that SHE AND CHRIS ALREADY PUT OUT THERE? She has a problem with that. But when she does it,it's okay? Is she not contradicting herself?

[@shani_bee]

was just about to say this. lmfao maybe thats what she learned in court lol

[@peanutbutterpancakes7]

Kail is not wrong and y'all will bash her just because you don't like her 🥴

[@sandyrivera5025]

I actually like her. But why get mad when she knew this guy is a deadbeat person, she has to deal with whatever way he lives his life.🤷‍♀️

[@iiram_al]

@@sandyrivera5025 anyone would get mad, just because she knows he’s trash doesn’t mean she can’t feel upset when he neglects something like illness with his own children under his supervision.

[@janebaker4912]

... you're right. I don't like her. They both suck

[@rachael4512]

@@sandyrivera5025 I kinda like her, too but she does need to get herself together sometimes. She's obviously jealous and bitter about Chris *however* she is right about this neglect. I wouldn't necessarily run to the emergency room for hand, foot and mouth but I would at least be there comforting my kids, keeping an eye on their temperature and giving them paracetamol every 4-6 hours. Doing nothing to make them feel better is not okay.

[@babyboopluvu3]

She's a hot mess,and her judgement is horrible.

[@mwoods4608]

He probably wants the kids to get used to the new step mom?? Shit, she always had her new dudes around her kids. She lucked out with Javi wanting issac.

[@kelliesuggs93]

All this drama she creates with Chris & others is ALL FOR VIEWS. That’s why she won’t disengage. She does it all for money. & unfortunately her kids will suffer. The drama is a guilty pleasure for all of us.

[@christinathomas1417]

Look if all her baby daddies, their girls, and her all spoke about how they planned out the drama these last few years id get up and applaud

[@mariella2884]

Petty Betty and Irresponsible Bob over there need to focus on those children. It breaks my heart, if your child is unable to eat with a temp above 100, you should be seeking help asap. If I were their nurse and knew he'd left them I'd be calling CPS, sorry not sorry.

[@reesalexandra3471]

They are so disgusting.. her sons are not gonna appreciate this later. At all.

[@mamacapnmo2553]

If what kail is claiming is indeed true.. again..indeed true. This is straight up child neglect. If a child is seriously ill and you do not take them to a hospital (where they legally have to be treated regardless of insurance or financial lack there of) According to the emergency medical treatment & active labor act, it’s a “Federal law that requires anyone coming to almost any emergency department to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay.” So, that being said.. NO reason why these babies were not taken to an ER and treated immediately. No excuses. Whatsoever. he is a bum and I’m so tired of him getting the attention he so desperately craves. ** and for those going to comment and defend this bum (why you would do that, not sure)... saying “bUt tHerEs nO tReAtMeNt fOr hAnD fOoT mOuTh”...what about the baby Creed who had a high fever? There is in fact treatment for that at a local hospital.

[@heatherwarden2689]

Seriously ill🙄 Hand foot and mouth and a fever Docs in America will try anything to make you panic and get the $$ out of you She had them catch covid for gods sake She took them somewhere un safe rampant with illness Because like she wanted like a vacation!

[@mamacapnmo2553]

@@heatherwarden2689 did I say those 2 children were specifically seriously ill. I did not. Please stop reaching. however the lil baby having a high fever is very serious and needs medical attention. I’m not going to argue with you over kail lowrys parenting on a whole seperate issue. and all the other garbage. I’m just stating facts.

[@LBDesignsIIV]

Girl shutup

[@mamacapnmo2553]

@@LBDesignsIIV who are you telling to shut up on a KZbin comment?

[@audriimckenzie5671]

It’s funny how all the men in Kails life can’t have a voice to expose how sh*tty of a person she actually is. Anytime they try to expose her she tries to block it in some kind of way. Let that man be a daddy without being stalked and micro managed!! She has control issues and that’s why she can’t have a relationship or be happy in life alone!!

[@janebaker4912]

Yes!! Like I split my kids up all the time. And a grandmother can't spend time alone with their grandchild. And we don't even know what this illness was, this is a woman that hit a person over a hair cut

[@shandaarnold5698]

I definitely agree

[@iamblvckivi]

Na her upbringing makes her super protective this is prime example stop coming for her parenting unless ure a single mother of 4

[@iamblvckivi]

@@janebaker4912 it’s her son hair period

[@audriimckenzie5671]

@@iamblvckivi kail has been a sh^tty person before she even had Issac. Stop.

[@erinsmith2589]

Thank you so much for posting some regular videos and not 100% live streams!!

[@Brandonforever21608]

Can you imagine having to deal with this woman for the rest of your life??? Jesus Christ

[@Georgiegirl655]

He'll no. She tries running ALL herbal daddies lives and ruin their relationships.

[@mistyblue8913]

My kids had hand foot n mouth and their fevers got up to 106.7! They couldn't eat or walk it was so miserable we had to rush them to ER it was crazy and this was within 2 days. We had to disinfect the entire house every hour

[@unapologeticallyromel7096]

Good morning & can they please get her off the show I am so over her & all her baby daddies.

[@mwoods4608]

This next season with chris on it!! No way, I'm totally watching. The only good part of this show is drama. Watching the Macy storyline is just like Chelsea. Total snooze.... that's why the y&p cast is decent. They are still struggling

[@cheyenneblack94]

I can vouch for Kailyn about this. I would be pissed if my kids' dad is not being a parent. I have had hand foot and mouth disease, and it was a nightmare

[@ashleylove907]

I would go NUTS!!!

[@mey1573]

Chris keeps baiting Kail and Kail just keeps on falling for it 😩 I am over both of them at this point but, I get Kail’s frustration and hope she films it.

[@kickinitwithkaici]

Chris was wrong as hell for this. Bruh I would be hella pissed.

[@GraceReport]

💯

[@BeatrizPereira-mk2cr]

Agreed! What Chris did is wrong, no matter how you feel about your BM…

[@WZ-tp3jm]

About that email…Didn’t she claim that “something happened” to the boys during the car accident but wouldn’t say what? Not in this email she’s saying she didn’t tell Chris they were in an accident because the kids weren’t injured? She’s such a liar. I don’t trust anything that comes out of her mouth.

[@stephanie6897]

My kids caught that from my sister's children. It was AWFUL. my son had blisters everywhere, even on his tongue. His hands and feet peeled off a whole layer of skin. It was absolutely, hands down, the worst illness my kids ever experienced. Edit: may I also add... It's very contagious, and its course runs for several weeks after the infection appears to be cleared up. It stays in their system so when you change diapers you must be more cautious than usual with hand washing.

[@GraceReport]

Gosh I’m so sorry! 🥺🥺😔

[@stephanie6897]

@@GraceReport thanks Grace ! It's been almost six years now but as you can tell, it left quite the impression 😬

[@stephanie6897]

@@GraceReport so to add, he absolutely should have told kail. This is something that would have to be dealt with, co-parenting wise, for some time !edit. Even more to add ! Hand foot mouth hits younger children harder. I would like to think he separated them in hopes of keeping creed from catching it. Which obviously did not work, anyhow. Another point to add, my man had to take a whole week off of work to help me, care for our kids when they both caught this virus. Chris just going out to hang with his girl and new baby is WRONG.

[@marietourniquet]

The kids being sick and not going to the doctor for it, and him not letting Kail know is fucked. But "separate the brothers"? Seriously? Lol. Maybe Lux really didn't feel well, and wanted to stay back. I have three kids, sometimes they don't all want to go running around doing things. I don't think it should go as far as being called "separating" them. That sounds like a bit of a reach.

[@Mommygirl4]

Yes! Then Grace saying how it’s going to cause them emotionally trauma as if he favors one over the other?! Mmm first of all he’s too little to remember that, second if one is sick and the other is not it’s actually better to try and separate them the best possible. Especially with something as contagious as hand foot and mouth! I’m not saying Chris is dad of the year by any means but this is beyond reaching! Need further proof of Kail being dramatic, look no further as her getting after Joe for not communicating over a headache! She’s too much, no wonder they don’t want to communicate with her, she makes it near to impossible.

[@marietourniquet]

@@Mommygirl4 She sure the hell does! Jesus. She sounds like an unstable nightmare! And yes lol I really cringed when even Grace kept saying "separate them" like they've been in foster care and away from each other for years or some dramatic shit lol separate them 😂😂😂 so extra, all the time!

[@thecolorfulvegan]

Imagine being Kail and actively choosing not to break generational curses .. it’s like she was born ready to take the hill billy baton from her mom.

[@shaunettawilson4999]

His girlfriend is pregnant, she just had her baby. He was fairly logical in not bringing a sick toddler around a pregnant woman

[@CS48293]

Both both boys were sick....

[@CS48293]

Not to mention he lives with his wife and only gets visits with his sons. He could have saw his sons at his moms house without his wife. Or brought them to the dr and sent them home. Theres no excuse for just leaving your sick baby or toddler without medical treatment

[@ItsMe-lt2kz]

Omg!!! Kail always trying to control everything, I honestly get why that man doesn’t want to deal with her or inform her of anything she is so toxic!! She loves when he messes up, and loves putting him on blast to stay relevant!

[@Erin___M]

She hired a private investigator to follow Chris... she could have kept that to herself 🤣😩

[@Breeanaxo95]

Nope. I’d be filing for an emergency hearing!

[@Breeanaxo95]

Forget the back and forth about the girlfriend. The baby’s health and safety is now an issue

[@annmarieholohan495]

I agree,my kids health comes above all else & should be a priority,it is to me,as I'm assuming it is to kail,if these were my kids nope I'd go to court for his behaviour

[@michellecheatum3880]

“Instagram story streets!!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hilarious!

[@ssznytzer3810]

It’s highly contagious!! And very painful! Poor babies.

[@gingygirl4638]

This show is gonna kill these girls. Does the money really mean more than their health and sanity? They should all walk away, like Chelsea did.

[@courtneyregan9456]

HFM is no joke! That clown needs to be careful he doesn’t pass it on to the newborn. My older child brought it home from school, and the pediatrician told me to take all precautions to make sure the newborn didn’t get it because it pretty much meant a hospitalization. My husband got it and was in bad shape.

[@motherofdemons3146]

I'd be pissed too. My 2 year old is stuck right now too and he's had a fever as well, his father and I set alarms throughout the night to check every 3 hrs when it's at it's peak. Kail sucks for the most part, but this is a dangerous thing for Chris to be so passive about.

[@shayg9126]

Absolutely, you picked a good man, kail didn't.

[@bethpustavrh3131]

Hand foot and mouth disease is EXTREMELY painful as one of my children had it. High fever and BLISTERS IN THE MOUTH, HANDS AND FEET. Really horrible to have. My child could not eat for days. Love from Australia and love you and your show.

[@charitygreen9432]

Kail separates the kids all the time, all parents do.

[@chantiaroberts3305]

Thank you! I was debating about saying this. What's the difference in Kail spending one on one time with all her kids and if he chose to hangout with Lux for some one on one time.

[@ajahdg]

Kail needs to seek help. She’s so miserable and obsessed with Chris it’s ridiculous. Kail needs to get fired since she always wants to pick and choose when she wants to film.

[@Georgiegirl655]

Yes!!!

[@calebdouglas7622]

I really can’t believe that this show is still relevant 10 plus years later and these women still haven’t matured even now that their children are borderline jr high students.

[@BeatrizPereira-mk2cr]

And they keep on popping up these spin offs… talking about milking a dry cow 😅 But hey: we’re all here for the drama 😂😂

[@calebdouglas7622]

@@BeatrizPereira-mk2cr Honestly though the show lost its identity years ago. It went from teaching kids about the dangers of teen pregnancy to now being if you want to be on tv and make money pop out a baby.

[@shamelush]

Chris is my favorite of her BDs because he's just as messy & petty as Kail. Keep it up my dudes.

[@AJ-jo4jh]

Fevers alone are very dangerous for young children. I'm pretty sure they can start having seizures once they hit 104F

[@HollywoodDeliPodcast]

Kail loves to talk about someone else’s flaws and never acknowledges her own.

[@1misskey]

Right Chris is a bad father but you not only had one kid with him but 2 lol she wants to control Everything

[@alondravhines6116]

My husband's ex is like her and God did my life get so much better when I took out the trash and no longer allowed her in my life. She verified she was trash when I was married and 6 months pregnant and she cried to my husband saying she hadn't slept with other men since him and wanted to have him back. Some baby mommas don't want their ex until they see them with other people 🙄

[@IdkMan2472]

Hand, foot, mouth is actually pretty serious and can leave scaring if untreated and severe enough. You can also have a high fever and honestly just be miserable. (Former preschool teacher) for him to leave the boys like that and also have them around others for them to spread it further is so negligent. And if he was seeing the new baby mama he should have told kail "look she'll be delivering any day now and I am unable to keep the boys this weekend". Now Creed has been around a pregnant woman due to give birth and he has something she can catch and give to her new born smh. YES kail can be extremely petty but I don't think she's wrong in addressing this or being pissed at him for that. She shouldn't have had another baby with him true enough but it's beyond unacceptable as to why this man can't use protection and is making all these babies but refuses to educate himself🤦🏾‍♀️. Whew chile the lack of proper parenting is concerning

[@ipod3369]

Its also very common in toddlers so don’t be scaring people

[@1976mcfarlane]

It's VERY Very common and almost never serious. Stop being ridiculous. Small pox is serious..I think the younger generations are scared of everything and run to the doctor for absolutely everything.

[@IdkMan2472]

@@1976mcfarlane it doesn't matter if it's common that doesn't discredit anything I stated. Reading in fundamental and if a high fever from something that's been left untreated scares people than good because a lot of children in daycares are miserable af because parents like him don't handle business. Point blank if your child is ill and symptoms get worse then get them help.

[@IdkMan2472]

@@ipod3369 yes it's common but doesn't change the fact if left untreated it can do harm to other children and themselves 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@kcar8974]

Why is she acting like she cares so much about her kid’s health but doesn’t even get them vaccinated 🤦‍♀️

[@SailorSlay]

Damn then it could’ve been measles

[@tracilehnert2336]

I really don't see the issue with the two kids not being fused at the hip. How ridiculous to, first off, ASSUME that Lux has never went somewhere without Creed but there are always a lot of ASSUMING with these two so I'd never give it the time of day. The other parent should be notified if a child is sick in their care but that's to ASSUME that Kail is always doing updates as well. Kail fosters very hostile relationships with her baby daddies and then screams foul when they're not up to keeping in contact with her and and the dads do as well. In summation they are ALL too immature for children so I will never jump on any of their bandwagons.

[@queen_alice_mc]

Well...Lux might feel that Creed is his dad´s favourite child, but ALSO, Kail, ADMITTED that Lux is "her favourite" too, basically. Both of them are messed up, HOW can you give one child more attention or opnely say that you fee MORE CONNECTED with them? What about the other three she has?

[@catherinehanson1106]

👏👏👏👏👏👏Kail admitted she felt ZERO connection to Creed

[@queen_alice_mc]

@@catherinehanson1106 DAMN!! I can´t believe it...How can you feel that way towards your child, I mean, SHE decided to have him and SHE decided Chris will be the father (even though she openly admits that she despises him)...

[@Mjackson2319]

Hand foot and mouth is an illness that’s super common amongst little kids. I worked in a daycare and that’s usually how it spreads. There’s not really much you can do to treat it it’s just one of those things that run its course at most you can give them like baby Tylenol. But I do think that it’s crazy that they got hand foot and mouth and he didn’t at least call her to tell her but met as far as medical treatment goes there’s really nothing that they would’ve done but sent them home.

[@dellawatson1669]

But a high fever is dangerous number one, and two, maybe there isn't much the hospital would have done, but as a parent he should have been giving them over the counter meds for the fever and I assume pain from the blisters. He was wrong

[@Mjackson2319]

@@dellawatson1669 I agree he should have been treating them at home. But what I was saying is I think the reason that she didn’t just say what they had was because she was making it seem as if they had this more extreme illness that required him to take them to the emergency room. And we don’t actually know if he was even treating them at home or not but the idea that he left him to hang out with his girlfriend is crazy to me.

[@ShanInVan]

The shade regarding Chris’ podcast 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Il

[@sarahturner6578]

There's really not much they can do for hand foot mouth disease. You really just have to let it run its course. Keep fever down.

[@marietourniquet]

Lol at Kail in the video at the end 😂😂😂

[@mwoods4608]

I wouldn't take my healthy child along with my sick child to the urgent care. That's putting the other child at risk. Urgent care is full of germs!!! And better to focus full attention on the child that needs to be seen.

[@nijahlynch1589]

Both kids were sick.

[@bionic_woman77]

It’s not just some red dots. It’s painful as hell and highly contagious. Kids can’t eat, because it hurts so bad. My son had it, and his hands and feet burned, and he couldn’t eat for a week. He had a mild case.

[@BreeziDeezi]

They chose each other so I don’t feel bad for either one. It was too easy for Chris to do simple research before pulling down his pants, watch an episode of TM2 to see this woman’s character before breeding her. For her, all the red flags were there. Yeah, he was in college but living with his grandma. No internship or plans after graduation.

[@ronni1189]

From what I know about hand, foot, & mouth disease... I believe its really contagious. I dont believe there is an actual treatment for it, only ways to help with the symptoms until the illness runs it's course. But I know a lot of my mom friends who try to separate the kids just cause it is so contagious. Idk, the full details,

[@jaiwhy5212]

Chris is immature that’s why…

[@lauramac90]

My kid had thay before and he was very upset, couldn't imagine just leaving it

[@MaDukesMaDukes]

Bravo to all the alleged adults for putting their drama/🐂💩 before how it all affects these kids. Can y'all say narcissistic personality disorder? Y'all need to get the cameras out of your personal bullcrap, stop doing your laundry on social media, keep your legs closed and concentrate on the needs of these kids.

[@Yezel93]

I understand kail being upset over it, I'm sure any mother would be. But kail seriously needs to stop talking crap about it on her podcast because she's been knowing that he isn't a good father for about 3 years now🤦🏻‍♀️

[@khloeejadee3313]

Kail probably has his blocked again or vice versa. They're both so petty

[@Cheachea1018]

I would want to know if he separated them because one was sick and one wasn’t because HFAM is super contagious. If they were both sick, he was very negligent bringing the kids to a new baby with that disease because it’s absolutely miserable and for a newborn, forget it. You have stupid people raising children. Lord have mercy.

[@rachealgayles5985]

Some may think that Chris shouldn't have separated the kids but Kail separates her kids all the time when they visit with their fathers and by allowing herself to get pregnant by 3 different men. So I don't understand why it's a problem when he does it?! They're both irresponsible and immature to have children. Poor kids.

[@amyjernigan8850]

One instance is not medical neglect. My ex refused to give my son prescription adhd medication bc he claimed medications cause brain cancer. Courts simply advised him to do better

[@courtneyh7189]

If it was obviously hand foot and mouth which it is very obvious there’s nothing that can really be done for it my older kids got it and we just quarantined at home and let it run it’s course no need to expose other people to be told what you already know

[@karinaescarsega3417]

Good morning grace I love all your videos!

[@mummyyes2131]

I think everyone is tired Kail and Chris messy life.

[@msalexandraj2384]

If I had to guess he didn't want to deal with Kail and in so he let his kid suffer. What a douche. I usually don't agree with Kail, but this is ridiculous. He should have just told her, have the argument that they would have had, and had the kid taken care of. And if he's splitting the kids up and leaving unattended, take them back to court and do this all over again.

[@reds1013]

We have a lot of cases of hand foot and mouth here in the uk . It doesn’t make kids really ill it’s just mild illness that can be treated with basic painkillers .

[@nihilismistheonlyway4680]

this is what happens when you split up and co-parent... they'll raise them how they raise them (yes, even borderline neglectful) and you can't say diddly. hopefully ppl will see this and take who they engage sexual intercourse more seriously because that one night stand can very easily end up your baby mama/baby daddy and HELLO DRAMA! absolutely none of this is good for the kids... this is seriously damaging their psyche and Grace seems to care even more about those kids then their damn parents do!

[@marietourniquet]

That's not true. You most certainly CAN do "diddly" if the other parent is neglectful. Just because they're separated and spend time in different homes, does not mean that one parent can neglect the child. Instead of being on a podcast, running her stupid mouth, she should be taking note of it and start collecting evidence of neglect to take his ass back to court. But she won't because she's stupid.

[@nihilismistheonlyway4680]

@@marietourniquet you obviously haven't dealt w custody issues before... it usually depends on the judge but most won't do anything if there's no danger of imminent actual death. its kind of like when you hear about guys who beat their wife and kids but when they divorce they still have visitation. it takes either really bad abuse/neglect or a really good (most likely expensive) family attorney to get it to where your ex-mate has to follow agreed upon parenting plan.

[@sarahimontes8410]

@@nihilismistheonlyway4680 very true !!!!

[@rosematthews9474]

She need to stop dragging her2 sons father Chris this is ridiculous you slept with him now you want to dog him.

[@invalidusername883]

Par the course for Kail 🙄

[@PS-ob7uw]

They use email to communicate really??? These two make my cornea itch😭😭

[@Amandeerr]

HFM is extremely contagious and miserable for kids! Lux was left behind because he can talk so he can tell Kail what goes on. Anyone with HFM should be seen and treated, kept away from others immediately. Kudos to his mom for putting their b.s. aside for the better of the kids!

[@mwoods4608]

H,f& m is pretty common for young kids who go to daycare. Not sure if her kids go or not- but it can be spread by mouth toys. And its really not "sickness". The kids usually feel fine. They just look gross

[@claires7428]

I think the severity varies. My son has been very unwell with it. He had a high temp and even vomited a couple times on top of being very tired and not eating much. I have it now and have awful blisters all over my hands and feet. I do know most adults have no symptoms but that's not always the case. For us at least, it is definitely a sickness

[@pennychalfant271]

Grace how do you say you don’t blame Kail on this one? This is who she chose to father, not one but 2 kids. Kail’s miserable. From her childhood to her kids’ childhood she’s miserable. No amount of money can mask that!

[@nijahlynch1589]

Chris let his children be sick and suffer and somehow it's Kail's fault? Because he got her pregnant and she chose to keep the babies? So basically, in order to prevent something like this from ever happening to those boys again, Chris should not be allowed to see them? Wait, but then she'd be the "Bitter Baby Mama who keeps the kids away." Y'all don't make any sense. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@MovingToTheYukatan]

So hand foot and mouth is highly contagious. Sores inside of the mouth that make it hard to eat.

[@mellowyellow74]

Kail is side eyeing them meanwhile we’re side eyeing ALL OF THEM. kids having kids smh.

[@tratrazy1633]

Not taking the kid to the doctor and or notifying me is something to be pissed about. But had he not been sick and wanted to be under his Granny or whatever (speaking in general) what wrong with that. When I had someone to keep an eye on my younger one while I'd take the older one didn't harm anyone. He stays with his mama/granny. Do she not trust her. Or is it because he went to visit with his girlfriend with their son🤔

[@shayg9126]

Because he visited the new baby momma

[@lilnuggett4204]

She mad he dismissed her 😂😂😂😂

[@tammymajors9938]

Impetigo or hand foot and mouth is very common in toddlers. As a former daycare worker this happens when kids put things in their mouth and it causes little red bumps and very contagious.

[@aep3922]

Kail needs full custody and cut her ties.

[@hazelswords8573]

My sis had this when she was young and I dont know what some people are on about. It is very painful my sis was in agony trying to walk. It's kinda like having ulcers in your mouth. They definitely needed to be minded with this, poor babies.

[@jennyyy78]

The guy is a bum ! She needs to go to court and get his visitation taken away asap !

[@angievandegrift987]

It’s HIGHLY contagious and can be extremely painful. Adult versions are continuous and painful as well. So not o my do they need medication they at times can’t eat because the sores in their mouth. It’s horrible he let them suffer!!!

[@duhhuh58]

It actually causes blisters in and around the mouth causing pain and not wanting to swallow. Both of my kids had it at the same time (oldest one gave it to her baby brother) and they were both so miserable 😔

[@HeyItsKayJayBae]

This is insane (the part about chris not taking them to the dr or calling kails petty ass)

[@mayeleydis7]

My dad never waited for my mom to care for me. They both traveled for work or for fun with each other (with me during vacation) yet I was taking care of. I have family members who broke up or divorced mutually but people change and custody gets messy. So for me whether I we get along or not after not being together….I will see legal counsel and go through courts. Kids are made by both parents and they both need to be responsible

[@904Kellyy]

Hand foot and mouth is so common at that age. That’s so scary that the baby had a high fever like that 😔

[@GraceReport]

And being lugged around to the girlfriend's house instead of a doctor? MESS!

[@vanessaw2887]

This is what parenting with a narcissist is like. I know Kail’s behavior looks irrational. But it’s because Javi and Chris are master manipulators, push her and THEN she reacts and looks crazy. It’s called reactive abuse. I’ve been there and it sucks. The only option is grey rocking and she really needs to try and practice that.

[@0003alp]

I think kail has narc traits too tho.

[@abby4027]

What’s gray rock?

[@alyssadana5011]

Can’t take either one of them.

[@Just-Steph]

Some people mistake hand foot mouth for a cold till a rash shows up.

[@BM-oq7dg]

Lol this is the same guy you chose to have ANOTHER baby… she is going to spend the rest of her life on court and legal fees

[@alycooper1932]

Kail is so ridiculous.

[@deziebethel]

If I were in Kail's shoes, I'd be marching straight to court the next day. No way I'm allowing my kids to spend time with such negligent people. This could have gone really left.