5 WORST/WEAKEST Mobile Suit Weapons

[@kakarot197]

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[@StuartLegomanLittle]

I was just wondering if you were going to do some questions of the week again and I came with two questions. Question #1: What if the White Base was not destroyed at the end of the One Year War? ( What if the White Bases engine never got destroyed during the battle of a baoa quo?) Question #2: What if Tem Ray never got sucked into outer space when side 7 was attacked?

[@philliprosewood7049]

Love this vid could you please make another weapons vid bc we all know there's a lot more good and bad weapons in this franchise.

[@MasterSwo-MK]

Just to put a minor defense out there for the Nether Gundam, his opponent in the clip DID look like his horse needed to regain its footing whilst fighting the tornados winds, so there's clearly some genuine force there... just not enough. Maybe the chariot made the Zeus Gundam(?) just that little bit to heavy, maybe the windmill didn't spin fast enough or heck maybe it didn't spin for LONG enough... but I genuinely think that with some minor adjustments, Nether Typhoon could be one of the more effective attacks in the Gundam Fight.

[@carriestovall8687]

any chance you're going to do a development history for the RMS-108 Marasai?

[@briansilva3765]

I always laugh at how Banagher hated the Beam Magnum at first for killing everything in it's path, then goes on to pilot a suit that is especially made to have multiple arms to use the thing.

[@barrybend7189]

In his case the rumors of a second Neo Zeong probably shaped the judgement of using the full power beam magnum. He needed overkill just to disable something like that without the unicorn. Just being in proximity to the beam could disable mobile suits.

[@marioangelini1860]

That firepower is something you cant simply let go.

[@petsgamesandrobots438]

@@barrybend7189 disable? more like dismantle (with high probability of killing the pilot) RIP to that random geara zulu

[@barrybend7189]

@@petsgamesandrobots438 change the compression rate and the excess particles will emp a suit not destroy it.

[@corvus9359]

Well the Silver Bullet Suppressor was only meant to be used in situations that specifically call for the use of the Beam Magnum. The Mineva Faction doesn't have much in the way of military resources, meaning they don't really have access to heavy firepower without the Beam Magnum. One of the main benefits of the Beam Magnum is that it provides very strong firepower, while only being the size of a beam rifle, making it very discreet and easily transportable. Most other heavy beam weapons are very large, and acquiring heavy weapons also isn't a good look for a faction that has roots in Zeon. Since getting other large beam weapons isn't really an option, it makes more sense to just design a system that replaces a Silver Bullet's arms, rather than design a new arm from the ground up for a mobile suit that's only really meant to be used in emergencies. The Silver Bullet itself also has a history of being modified for various tests, and its arms being detachable remote weapons would imply that replacement arms would be an important item to have in reserve.

[@Sangth123]

The people writing UC lore - like the fact the Dom's chest beam originally was meant to be a socket to plug in beam weaponry - they need more recognition because it reads EXACTLY like real-world arms development and all the setbacks and compromises that come with it.

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

Or how the Hizack was such a bodge job that it couldn't handle more than one beam weapon at a time, forcing pilots to choose whether they wanted to rely on a Zaku heat hawk or a Zaku 120mm machine gun instead of having the convenience of both a beam saber and a basic beam rifle.

[@Servellion]

Definitely. I love bits of lore like that, makes the universe seem much more believable.

[@dragonjaj]

best part is some doms did get the higher output beam spray installed. The trop and fum i remember ine of them and zeonic front could flash fry GM heavies with it as well as one used the beam snipers guess they plug the power hose in the socket

[@luzifershadres]

Gundam Universe scientist be like: We made this big ass gun, too strong for a mobile suit too handle. So, instead of putting it on a space ship, we over engeenered a outdated mobile suit.

[@dragonjaj]

to be fair 20% of gm 3 started life as gm

[@darwinxavier3516]

Gundam SEED scientists come in and put starship grade weaponry on mobile suits. So much so that a battleship/carrier actually detaches two of it's weapon pods to be used as addons for it's two suits.

[@MiguelCuevas-m2y]

​@@darwinxavier3516If you're talking about the METEOR units for the Freedom and Justice mounted on the hull of the Eternal, that ship was purpose built to carry them and support the two Gundams.

[@darwinxavier3516]

@@MiguelCuevas-m2y I am talking about them. And the point still stands that putting warship weapons on a mobile suit is so extremely common that they designed a warship to just let it's suits borrow some of it's weapons..

[@keirgomcginlay2044]

Nether Gundam is one of my favourite Gundams. It's totally ridiculous... but it's actually genius. Neo-Netherlands are playing a long game.They are low ranked, and to improve their resources they NEED to get a higher place in the Gundam Fight. But they knew they didn't actually need to WIN, just do better. Getting to the finals is a great simple goal and they managed it masterfully. Anything beyond the finals was a bonus, and they outlasted many 'stronger' machines just by being smarter.

[@GojiraFan-in9oo]

Too bad they didn't get a single victory in the tournament

[@LagunaShirogane]

Word of Frieza from DBZ: "Sometimes its the smartest who wins, not the strongest."

[@kingbarrythegreat]

I still laugh like a hyena at the fact it got mass-produced, how do you explain 40 giant robot windmills to your citizens when they ask about how their taxes are used, like I get that the large numbers mean the thing had lots of spare parts but the hangers would be ridiculous looking lol

[@dragonjaj]

40 giant robot wind mills with mega particle cannons that blend into your landscape try and invade us now neo germany @@kingbarrythegreat

[@aliastheabnormal]

To be fair the Genoace was a product of centuries of technological regression. While the Vagan suits had nigh alien overtech by comparison. And awesome dragon modes.

[@bthsr7113]

That does not excuse the industrial predecessor having more effective melee systems.

[@CptPhilippnes]

@@bthsr7113 all I'm getting from this is that the Federation was so corrupt and incompetent that they could downgrade their weapons to such a pathetic level that they could look at it and go "Yep, that'll do."

[@darkkira1332]

@@bthsr7113 Thats the same as comparing a survival knife with a shovel and a pickaxe. And lets be honest, both works better than the knife.

[@aislemontecristo]

To give it a fair chance, maybe the Genoace was basically a police unit, rather than a combat mech.

[@Gadlight]

@@bthsr7113 there were more powerful units as predecesors, if you watch or read the AGE MSVs youll see, the issue its the ban on some types of weaponry by the Federation in AGE universe, because of SID, that made the Federation weaponry really weak in comparison to Vegan tech, up until they standarized their units with DODs rifles made by the AGE System.

[@mercenarygundam1487]

Nether Gundam: The one kid who passes most of the tests via a loophole until they reach the finals. Genoace: Beam Super Soaker and a wooden stick. Perfect for those hot summer days. Gundam Hammer: How Amuro Ray, Clotho Buer, and Loran Cehack didn't hurt themselves is beyond me. Chest Scattering Beam Cannon: The equivalent of mounting a flashbang on your combat vest. Beam Magnum: The equivalent of the Desert Eagle for giant robots. Awesome power but it's utterly impractical. G04's Mega Beam Launcher and Big Wig: The equivalent of draining all the house's power to run Crysis/Payday 2 and Team Fortress 2. In the Big Wig's case, running any modern game on a Commadore 64. Also, to answer the Big Wig's situation. Everything

[@weebcraft6829]

Fon Spaak (Astrea's pilot) made his own Gundam hammer too. Apparently for him it was more for sending a message, that while everyone else was using GN space magic, he was skilled enough to be caving in suits with medieval weaponry

[@KuruniXD]

IIRC, Turn A's and Astrea Type F's hammer utilise the weight manipulating ability of I-Field/GN Drive. I don't think it ever come up for Turn A, but Fon demonstrate it in Gundam Exa (Leos manage to deflects the hammer, but Fon cause the hammer to drops down and hit the 1.5 Gundam from behind).

[@LordTyph]

being fair, the Nether Gundam did its job, getting its country in better standing by reaching the finals. Whether or not it actually progressed FURTHER would have just been icing on the cake.

[@KiraSlith]

The Genoace is what you get when you ask an American police officer to design a mecha for civilian peacekeeping. It's cheap for what it is, and it's weaponry is fine for smaller targets like rogue tanks, civilian APCs, and killdozers. Shame it's totally useless against other mecha, barring maybe swinging a mace.

[@kl1thedominion]

The story of the Nether Gundam and how it made it to the finals will always be hilarious. It's one of the most "Well, the rules don't say I can't roll to seduce the dragon", rules-as-written-abusing moments I can think of in fiction, and the tournament organizers had to have been like "Yeah, I guess that's fine, you got us there". Well played, Neo-Holland.

[@bluedestiny2710]

Unfortunately, the Nether Gundam got wrecked in the end XD based on your analogy, what happened was something like: Ok... so you succeeded in seducing the dragon! It now wants you to stay forever with it and will not allow you to leave the cave... ever... roll a new character

[@kl1thedominion]

@@bluedestiny2710 Yeah, it definitely falls into the "an attempt was made" category lol

[@koichijenius]

@@bluedestiny2710 Funding is supposedly allotted based on your finishing rank and by making it to the finals with 0 effort they would get a pretty solid return on their investment. I assume Neo Holland realized they stood no chance against Master Asia or the other entrants and just intentionally shot for bronze and the cash prize that came with it.

[@justinjacobs1501]

​@koichijenius it's actually pretty clever.

[@shiftfire4511]

@bluedestiny2710 Thing is, it still worked, and beautifully at that. They went from placing near the bottom of the pack with very unskilled fighters to reaching the Finals. The Gundam Fight is *the* biggest deal in the politics of the Future Century, so reaching the Finals *at all* is worth a lot. And hey, even if they're shit at fighting, they managed to avoid *literally everybody* for nearly an entire year. Considering some of the shit we see Domon and the others go through, that's a feat in itself.

[@novaeye6081]

4:14 “when I joined the core we didn’t have any fancsmansy tanks. We had sticks, two sticks and a rock for a hole platoon and we had to share the rock!” - SGT. Johnson

[@dragonjaj]

age is tied to halo time line confirmed

[@calthepeacelovingclover5935]

I think the only time the Dom's chest scattering beam cannon worked effectively as a smokescreen/countermeasure in combat was when it was fighting against federation child soldiers in GM's, Guncannons and GM Cannons in the Thunderbolt sector. I wonder what it could do to a human standing infront of it, maybe it could be used like a vulcan gun.

[@Supercohboy]

The video shows an example of it working against Amuro, but granted Amuro is a child soldier. The guy that gets blasted in the video game intro was blinded before being slashed (7:44), and that's during the battle of A Baoa Qu iirc so that's likely a normal Feddie if not a seasoned one. There are plenty of Manga moments where it works well, but Manga consistently screw around/don't care about Canonicity, they just care about making their story look cool. It's definitely a niche gimmick, but during the One Year War there were very few MS that had any gimmicks, so every little advantage was a big deal in a fight I'd bet. It gives the pilot more options too, for example you can capture an enemy MS more easily through the use of "flashing" the pilot/MS sensors and then disarming or incapacitating the machine. 3 Zaku IIs would have a hard time doing that, but a Dom has a chance between the scattering beam cannon and its' slightly-higher output reactor (leading to greater strength and speed than the GM, invaluable when restraining an opponent). That's just one of many examples.

[@riptors9777]

@@Supercohboy The gimmicks thing is only half true if you leave out all the side stories and only take the original anime then yes, very few gimmicks. But over the years thery rolled out an entire cavalcade of souped up gimmick laden MS. I mean just take the Federations Pale Rider series...or their GM variants that where nowhere to be seen in the original but somehow all existed... you would think by now theres more OYW GM variants out there then GMs produced XD

[@BadSkeelz]

It managed to blind Karen in the 08th MS Team as well.

[@dragonjaj]

that is actually 90% of the federation troops looked like

[@dragonjaj]

Pale rider was a single unit doms where mas built and had variants the gouf flight type was so loved an idea it spawned two in field variants of the gouf custom that was the actual flighty type witch you see 3 of in the 08th two at the end and the one on the battle of the bridge crossing and there are others repotted and the drop pack/jump pack one the used by the monks in bandit flower also the only air superiority suit of the oyw @@riptors9777

[@tomhuynh3867]

The Gundam hammer make sense as a anti ship weapon when you realize how initial Fed MS beam weapons and its basic operations share the same fuel source.

[@GundamKType]

From what i've seen, there was also a version of the beam magnum that could alternate between using full power and a lesser powered shot. And the unicorn gundam's weren't exactly meant to play nice with everyone anyway, they were Basically, a return to the titan's ideology of just kill everything in sight, friend or foe. Besides, they were usually on their own anyway, rather than being supported by a bunch of other mobile suits.

[@zorh136]

More accurately, the RX-0 units were designed to be escorted by an elite unit made up of Jestas up until the NT-D activated and it shifted into Destroy Mode, after which the Jestas would back off and provide long range support

[@granmastersword]

​@@zorh136exactly. The RX-0 units and the Jestas were designed for a purpose in mind: dealing with Neo Zeon or Zeon Remnant squads that have at least a Newtype MS/MA on their side. The Jestas would escort the RX-0 by dealing with the regular enemies while the RX-0 deals with the Newtype enemy. Because of that, the RX-0's arsenals were designed to better fight against Newtype machines, with the Beam Magnum guaranteeing a one shot kill and the NT-D system letting them hijack Newtype remote weapons to set them against their controller

[@kakarot197]

What a Genowaste

[@josayajoseph1018]

LoL that beam spray gun damage😂😂

[@chrisyoung1576]

sheesh

[@CptPhilippnes]

This vid is just another excuse to shit on the Genoace and I am so here for it.

[@scarletrain6757]

Gundamit

[@anthonywalker6268]

Did it need a upgraded generator to use the dose rifle?

[@matthewbrune5490]

Honestly, for the RX-78-2, I’m pretty sure Tem Ray and the rest of the V-Project were given a blank check and near unlimited freedom to R&D MS that could outperform pretty much everything Zeon could make and honestly, I’d say it was completely justified

[@taliawtf6944]

I mean it is realistic with that sorta thing, at the start of the second world war the US government actually funded testing for bats with little fire bombs on them to send to Japan. They got to a full blown test on an old air base and they bats got loose and burnt the whole thing down not just the test target area. The goofed test was deemed a success too.

[@hanslubas]

I mean Bats as a weapon is possible too if a Virus infects one and people start eating them...

[@SudrianTales]

Plus on the Hyper Hammer, it killed a Gogg. No mean feat (and my favorite Zeon aquatic MS)

[@corvus9359]

Modifying a Silver Bullet to use a Beam Magnum makes more sense than most people give it credit for. The Silver Bullet Suppressor is the perfect mobile suit for the situation it was used in. Banagher only uses the Silver Bullet Suppressor in situations that call for the use of the Beam Magnum, and he uses it as a heavy support unit that isn't meant to fight at the forefront of the battlefield. The Beam Magnum itself allows for absurdly strong firepower, while the weapon itself is only the size of a beam rifle. This allows for heavy firepower to be transported very easily and discreetly. Using the Silver Bullet as a base for the Suppressor is actually quite clever because one of the main features of the Silver Bullet is that the arms can be deployed as remote weapons. Since remote weapons are liable to being destroyed in combat, and the Silver Bullet is also used in a lot of testing, it would make sense for the Vist Foundation to have a lot of replacement Silver Bullet arms on hand. The Mineva faction isn't the exactly the biggest faction out there in terms of military resources. The only mobile suits they have would be the Unicorn (which is hidden away as a last resort option), Geara Zulus, and Silver Bullets from the Vist Foundation. The Silver Bullet already has a history of being modified for various tests, and it makes a lot more sense to just design a system that replaces a Silver Bullet's arms, rather than design a new arm from the ground up using resources they don't have for a mobile suit they'll only use in emergencies.

[@Smilomaniac]

Funny thing about the Genoace/Desperado is that construction generally has higher/better safety regulations than the army, while the army's rules and regulations are more... theoretical than practical. That means that for construction work your tools have to actually pass practical specifications while military tools are a little more arbitrarily tested and suffer from cheapest bidder quality. This isn't stone cold fact across the board, it's an approximation of how things have worked in the past, how it still works in some places and it translates well into sci-fi where a construction mobile suit is better armored and "armed" than a military version, but it's also significantly slower and doesn't have anywhere near the suite of detection capabilities, let alone the capability at range and choice in options. It'd make for a great story that focuses more on a ragtag bunch of mercs who rely on custom mobile suits for purpose jobs. It's also often reflected in Patlabour stories/episodes.

[@Arrowdodger]

The Gundam Hammer was, yeah, not especially practical, given the Beam Saber and Beam Javelin are both probably much more versatile, though some of the offshoots in AUs have their uses. The Mjolnir in Cosmic Era, if I recall, can block attacks when spun, which has obvious utility, at least.

[@Felix24148]

Another tidbit about the Dom's scattering beam gun in the chest. Sometimes it was actually deemed too costly in the mass production, and not even included. Meaning a lot of Doms and Rick Doms didn't even have the option to blind their opponents.

[@commander_razor]

Oh, bruhhh

[@LeoMidori]

Ouch! Considering how relatively late war they came out Zeon pretty much needed everything they could get, so that's a bit of a deficit for sure. At least the Dom/Rick were relatively solid units for their time, or at least big steps up from the aging Zaku's.

[@Felix24148]

@@LeoMidori They were solid units. But Doms are heavy. So they have to be bully-type fighters of coming in fast to do damage before they can be hit. In space the standard GM was faster than the Rick Dom. In truth, the Dom was only adapted for space because they needed something fast. That's why later models like the Rick Dom II changed the design so much. In space the standard Rick Dom is actually very inferior to the GM in almost every way. Zeon Ace pilots could make good use of a Rick Dom. But a Zeon Ace in a captured GM could do extreme damage.

[@LeoMidori]

@@Felix24148 I didn't know the production model GM was that much better in space, interesting~ I can see it given its weaponry, smaller profile, better acceleration and probably less supply issues than the Zeon would be facing at that point of the war. I guess more Gelgoogs might have made up a difference, especially if they worked out their beam rifles' overheating issues, but I guess Zeon just couldn't keep up with the Feddies at that point.

[@Felix24148]

@@LeoMidori Most people don't seem to know just how superior the standard GM is. It actually has slightly better thruster and sensor ability than the RX-78-2 Gundam. It's generator, alloy construction, and weaponry are nearly all superior to Zeon MS of the One Year War. Zeon pilots closed the performance gap with sheer tenacity and skill. However early Zeon MS couldn't use beam weapons, were made of steel, and had lower thruster output and acceleration than Federation MS. The standard GM did have some slightly flimsy construction to cut costs. But it could still take a hit since it's armored with Titanium. In MS Igloo you see GMs needing to be peppered with bullets before they go down. The standard GM not only has higher thruster output and acceleration, but a better main generator as well. Federation MS also had better fuel efficiency, and had their own type of propellant, which Zeon remnants had to modify their MS to be able to use later. The Rick Dom was a somewhat lackluster design. It's steel armor was thick, but didn't do it too much good against machine guns unless hit at an angle. And did almost zilch against beam weaponry. The wide body type of the Dom also made it a bigger target. Which made it twice as easy to hit as a GM. Overall the Dom was a design best suited for ground warfare because it's ability to hover allowed it to move continuously. That's why later models like the Rick Dias changed the design so much for better space performance.

[@joedigioseffo7203]

The entire weapon package of the Aries sute from Gundam wing it also did not help that they were made out of explodium I can't recall a single episode where they were even affective against a Leo and even struggled taking out regular tanks.

[@thefez-cat]

The Genoace is amazing because they want us to accept that a Mobile Suit fought a war for literally _years_ and never once succeeded even by accident.

[@bthsr7113]

Even Putin and World War 1 generals would admit they dun goofed before whatever poorly written faction justified sending pilots to their deaths without any chance of success for a full decade..

[@SudrianTales]

They have to show off their awesome deviantart OCs, damn the setting

[@orionparish9858]

The Beam Magnum is more impractical than worst I feel. If allies knew how far to get out of the way to avoid the splash damage...

[@jakealter5504]

Otherwise the only drawback was that the recoil would damage any non unicorn machine

[@andrehashimoto8056]

@@jakealter5504 tbh likely only MObile armors or POST UNICORN era Gundams would have the arms servos beefed to withstand a BB main beam gun in MS Beam Rifle size kickback.

[@KuruniXD]

Another concern is its very limited ammo. Note that Gallus-J from the First Neo Zeon War has early version of the beam magnum (originally called energy gun). Although its firepower is incomparable to Unicorn's, it doesn't break Gallus's arm.

[@longdo5910]

It kind of made sense when you remember that the Unicorn series were meant to fight Newtype aces flying Kastriya and Sinanju (or Nu), so a situation where you don’t expect even the average grunt to anything other than meat shield. For more mass-produced enemies, the beam gatling is sufficiently overpowered and anything that get closed won’t be abled to even scratch the Psychoframe enhanced armor anyway.

[@EungsuLee]

​@@longdo5910 No. It makes EVEN LESS sense especially against Newtype aces, because most of them will just predict and dodge beam shots anyway.

[@icdeadpipol]

IIRC those claws, also known as Iron Nails for amphibious MS can get stuck when used on some MS,MA or ships causing the unit itself to be immobilized unless they can detach or wedge out their arms properly. Worst if the ship they attack started to sink, they go down with it.

[@bluedestiny2710]

Yea, which is why newer versions of the weapon could jetison the weapon if it gets stuck... and can be super heated to increase penetration. At least they learned from it hehe😊

[@DarkOperationman]

The most joking weapon in Gundam series I could think of : The Spray Gun. Not the beam spray gun, just a a spray gun that just spraying paint to your enemy. In Gundam Build Fighter

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Just imagine You have spent a hundred+ hours making your model, delicately bashing bits together, buying entire extra model kits to get the one thing on your custom frankenmech ace custom. The most finely tuned death machine that can barely exist by universe technicality within this timeline. And then SOME KID throws a paint sprayer on his poorly assembled Zaku 2 or Leo shitbox, destroys all the joints on your gundam permanently, deforms the perfectly sculpted part modifications you made, ruins the paintjob forever, and is impossible to just repaint over to fix. Truly. Eternal war may have no victors, but it can certainly have loss.

[@potatomongrel]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Didn't 0083 Stardust Memory have a mock battle with EFF trainees using paint ammunition?

[@docartemis2878]

In defense of the Leo’s machine gun, up until the start of the show it was a perfectly fine weapon that filled it’s role just fine. Unfortunately people kept using the machine gun and Leo long after it had become completely outclassed.

[@Arrowdodger]

Yup. It's also, if I recall correctly, specified to have rather impressive accuracy. Stopping power, well, less so.

[@docartemis2878]

@@Arrowdodger It may have been stated to have good accuracy but that did not come across in amination.

[@demomanchaos]

Same with the Zaku MG honestly, no use against plot armor despite honestly being a fairly decent weapon for its time. The Leo is honestly a pretty solid suit, just on the wrong side of plot armor (Spare the few instances where plot armor is on its side, it is crazy how much having a named pilot enhances the performance/survivability of a Leo). Be interesting to see how it actually matches up against a Zaku II.

[@riptors9777]

@@demomanchaos Well the Zaku machinegun was also developed to deal with the threats of the time during its inception: namely fighter craft/weaponized shuttles, tanks and battleships. You dont need alot of Armor piercing power for the former two and you would aim for weakpoints up close at the later. Hence why the follow up, the 90 mm MP had more armor piercing capabilities then the 120 mm Zaku machinegun despite being of a smaller calibre because Zeon realized that their old 120mm where not enough to stop MS armor. That being said: The 120 mm Zaku machinegun worked adequately against GMs for the most part thanks to the fact that your run of the mill GM had to get in close because of their beam spray gun standard equipment. And at those ranges the machine gun could dismantle a GM no problem. At range though the performance fell off dramatically, especially against shield carrying GMs

[@IBW_3000]

In defence of the beam magnum, you kinda need it to take on the Neo Zeong.

[@AceFalken]

gundam hammer and hyper hammer are actually scary since its a giant mass flying at you. Ifield cant stop it and if youre short being in a mobile armor you're gonna have to hope you're quicker because your armor is gonna be crushed especially when gundarium is still relatively new. I think it's harder to do weapons then it is to do suits since some weapons can be argued as being more regarded as a utility use (dom flashbang which other suits also have actual flashbangs). while there's just several suits that are regarded as bad or requiring really good pilots to use remotely good (Zudah)

[@AtelierGod]

The pea shooter from Gundam wing was likely bad, but it was up against similar units to the units using them and similar weaponry so it’s only bad because something far superior was introduced afterwards.

[@diseasicon]

The AMX-017 Gigantic's Atomic Bazooka. Axis Zeon built a weapon that they had no ammunition for, and acquiring said ammunition hinged on an operation to seize Luna II that failed.

[@TheWarmachine375]

2:07 No one complained when the Hurricane Megazord from Ninja Storm did the ultimate attack of unleashing a massive tornado with a windmill-like rotors.

[@AssaultFlamingo]

I mean, did it work?

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

​@@AssaultFlamingoIt did work, so... yeah the Hurricane Megazord's finisher was better

[@Sta_cotto]

In regards to the Silver Bullet Suppressor; I'm honestly surprised Banagher wasn't just able to get a stronger right arm made to handle the Magnum, considering he should have a favor or two to cash in with Anaheim.

[@bthsr7113]

Like, even if it would look horribly asymmetrical, at some point it has to be cheaper to reengineer the damn thing than to keep treating arms like shell casings.

[@AtelierGod]

Good point.

[@borgar1765]

for what it's worth Silver Bullet is probably the best machine for the job if they can't make a stronger arm, since due to the wired arm mechanic it's designed to have them be easily detachable and probably had more spare parts for them than the average suit

[@jetblackangelX]

A later side story does have that happen. Banagher is given a spare gundam mk2 with a modified right arm that could handle the beam magnum.

[@bthsr7113]

@@borgar1765 Fair.

[@ryanhoule4415]

I remember that the Gundam Hammer was the ultimate move in Gundam Battle Assault 2 and it sucked in that, too. While it did quite a chunk damage, the drawback was that your opponent had to be within a certain distance; if they’re too far or too close, you miss.

[@demomanchaos]

In GBA 1 the Gundam didn't have an Ultimate at all, nor did Nu IIRC.

[@konos-p8842]

I thought it was actually fairly broken as the damage (nearly a whole bar) happened in an instant. You could use Javelin to keep enemies in the sweet spot for the hammer

[@AssaultFlamingo]

​@@konos-p8842Yeah, it was a good way to semicheese through opponents in arcade move.

[@ryanhoule4415]

@@konos-p8842 Except the wind-up gives your opponent ample warning to either charge-in or back off out of range.

[@konos-p8842]

@ryanhoule4415 the wind up happens as a short cinematic, specifically the first 2 twirls. The third one is the actual hit which comes out fast

[@far5527]

Imma put a honorable or probably is a mention, the zero system. Although it is arguably not a physical weapon, it is good enough to be called weapon since it can literally surpress your emotion which can make you a cold blooded pilot so you don't care who got hit or survive, pair it with something something like the buster rifle or heavyarms itself, you better pray

[@KyriosMirage]

For "The Wing Peashooter" I'd suggest the main MG used on the Aries, rather than the implied Leo's 105mm. IIRC, that thing was only supposed to be a 90mm.

[@xnflg3074]

Without looking it up, I assume the Mercurius' beam handgun had a pretty low power rating too. The thing was designed for defensive purposes and had the crash shield and planet defensors but I figure that gun isn't very powerful

[@bluedestiny2710]

@@xnflg3074 correct. For the most part, the gun would be effective against "lightly" armored targets like standard mobile suits... but thr gun would be ineffective against the Planetary Defensors (which was also deployed by the Virgo series) and the Gundam's armor ... and of course... its exceptionally useless against plot armor... i believe it couldnt even penetrate the Taurus' armor that was used by Hilde during her escape

[@antoniczarnecki9455]

Hey, Gundam 00 had Astrea - Exia prototype - that made great use of Gundam Hammer. Imagine this thing moving as you please because GN particles can shift gravity, lethal AND unreactable!

[@ChrisTian-sd5yq]

yeah my type F has two of those

[@unaiestanconapelaez2526]

In defense of the beam magnum you should consider that it was build in uc 96 a time were for a long time massive battles were a thing of the past also its area effect makes more sense if you consider that it was designed to support a newtype hunting mobile suit.

[@demomanchaos]

To be fair, the Gundam Hammer is VERY effective against Big Zam in Federation vs Zeon/Gundam vs Zeta and other slow mobile armor with I-Fields.

[@LeoMidori]

Yeah, you do have to treat anti beam proofed units differently. Same with the Psycho Gundams.

[@ginger-ham4800]

It's not that the Genoace's beam spray gun is bad, it's juet that the Vagan mobile suits are waaaay more advanced. It's the equivalent of a fresh off the factory OYW GM vs a ZZ era transformable MS piloted by a Newtype. Also, the Gundam Hammer kicks ass. Just look at Raider Gundam, Astraea and Turn A.

[@alfianfahmi5430]

-> Beam Magnum : The thing that makes me mad about it is how small the size was. It's the size of Beam Rifle while having the output of a Mega Beam Launcher / Mini Colony Laser. If it was as big as Doven Wolf's beam cannon/rifle with adjustable output and was also equipped with a bipod/tripod for cannon mode, Beam Magnum could've been used more than once by mobile suits other than Unicorn Gundam. -> Beam Flashlight : I'm more confused on why Shinn Asuka couldn't just use his Palma Fiocina just like Doms' Beam Flashlight. It's like, he has the best flashbang literally on his hands, but he chose to use dem flashy hands for a Shining Finger homage 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@jaderabbit898]

Unrelated to the video but are you planning to be doing 'Question of the Week' again? Because I'd like to ask how different would Char's encounters be during the Gryps War if he had the Delta Gundam or its Unit 2. Side note, I'm surprised there's no mentioning of the Blu Duel's weapons here, considering... you know.

[@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai]

To be fair, Zeus Gundam had temporary plot armor because he was supposed to lose to the Burning Gundam.

[@GojiraFan-in9oo]

That wasn't plot armor. Nether Gundam is just that weak

[@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai]

@@GojiraFan-in9oo I don't doubt that, but then again I don't think Zeus was that strong either.

[@donovanbradford8231]

I don't know if it was the only in the English dub but the Zeus Gundam was a favorite to win the Gundam Tournament, plus its size the Fight just struck me as a light weight going up against a heavyweight.

[@muisverriet]

As a Dutchie, it's great to hear you speak in Dutch (with the lovely Belgian accent)!

[@GCJACK83]

The ending... brought me to tears. Thoroughbred just doesn't get the love it deserves.

[@kyrudo]

Beam Magnum shares the same woes with weapons like the Twin Buster Rifle or Sat Cannon. The issue is that if these weapons actually hit then so much for the 3 episode long climax of the series. Imagine how fast Wing’s climax wouldve been resolved if Heero would just fucking stop losing the TBR. Weapons so powerful the plot has to get in the way

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

If we can include prototype weapons; there's the 100mm Zaku machinegun and the Zaku High Mobility R-2S chest beam cannon. The former was woefully inadequate; especially once they realized there was no way in heck it could ever destroy any armored ship. The later had actual power; but needed another mobile suit hooked up to the R-2S to be able to fire it once. After that, the other mobile suit became dead-weight.

[@timo7641]

actually Unicorns beam magnum isn't fit for worst/weakest category, its just not convenient to use lol

[@marioangelini1860]

I don’t want sound annoying but you think it's possible a top for best Mobile Suits Backpacks in Gundam. The criteria could about more speed, fire power, protection, or even especial benefits. For example this is my top 6 1-Freedom backpack: the benefits you pointed out in your development video and plus they are wings that have cannons on them I love that combination. 2-Phenex backpack: I know is the same as unicorn and banshee but the addition of the two anti-armor DE makes it better in my opinion but to benefits in speed, firepower, and protection. 3-Gundam Flauros backpack: I love those cannons. I know they work better when Flauros is in shooting position but with the right ammo you can destroy everything in front of of you. 4-Barbatos Lupus Rex tail: The benefits in combat and mobility are very good and I love how can be use to attack enemies. 5-Murdrock backpack: I actually just the cannons design and I always wanted other Mobile suits like the Jegan to use a beam version of the backpack to have a Jegan cannon. 6-Gundam Ground type backpack: I know is just the typical MS backpack. However, when attach the weapons container you can carry extra ammo and even additional firepower like machine guns, bean rifles, cannons, rocket launchers, and missile launchers. You can never carry enough dakka into the battlefield. Another point of view could be about the backpacks I would put in my Mobile Suit.

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

Others potentially worth mentioning include; Raphael Gundam: A rather overpowered backpack and the backpack itself is technically the real Gundam. Crossbone family: I like those x shaped thrusters in general. Not to mention they are part of the core block system (except X2 Kai; which is weaker). Hi-Nu: Contains multiple funnels configured into a wing-like configuration. Re-ZEL: More practical than the bizarre system that Re-GZ had. Transformation less of a complicated mess than Zeta Gundam thanks to its backpack design. Blue Astray Second Revise: Part of backpack can become a large blade and is able to hold a large Gatling gun. Red Astray Kai: Similar to to Blue Astray Second Revise, except the Gatling gun is replaced with the ability to form a large bow. Infinite Justice: Easily its coolest weapon is the launchable portion of its backpack system. Unlike the one from Re-GZ; this thing is not a one-time use and doesn't cause the Gundam to become even weaker.

[@marioangelini1860]

@@tidepoolclipper8657 I agree backpacks are almost vital for a MS as their weapons and shields.

[@trollinoakenshield9822]

​@@tidepoolclipper8657yo dawg, i heard you like gundam, so i put gundam on your gundam so you could pilot another gundam while piloting gundam.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Ootori pack for the Strike Rouge. Basically look like a simplified and refined IWSP.

[@marioangelini1860]

@@Joshua_N-A Correct me if I am wrong. The backpack for the Strike Noir in also an alternative to the IWSP.

[@TheWarmachine375]

4:56 It looks more like a Gundam Chain Flail than a Hammer.

[@bthsr7113]

Gundam has a rough history for terminology.

[@IvanksMW]

I think the Peashooter from wing was not weak itself it was just that everything in that universe i got used against was tanky as hell, Gundams were pretty much invulnerable to anything but the biggest beam weapons and everything else had Planet Defensors XD

[@DrJay1234]

What about the Wing Gundam's buster rifle? Yeah, it can take out multiple Aries and Leos in one shot, but in lore, it is limited to three shots before being recharged, which isn't ideal for battlefield situations. I am also fairly certain the show ignored this fact multiple times.

[@harlannguyen4048]

I think it had a variable output system, so it can fire either multiple weaker shots or 3 full power shots.

[@AshuraH]

If you're gonna be going for a round 2, I would certainly call up all of the Earth Alliance's/ZAFT's/ORB's attempts to combine the Striker Packs. The Multi-Striker Pack was more or less slapping all three Striker Packs together and shoving a bunch of batteries up the Aile Striker's ass (Mu only piloted it once, then gave up), The Integrated Weapon Striker Pack was so unwieldy Cagalli couldn't use it and was pretty much a display piece and the Destiny Silhouette was "Hey, let's put this awesome backpack on the Impulse with no changes to battery power!" I say the Ootori gets a pass as it works in Cagalli's hands and when Kira gets it, he makes it and the Strike Rouge SHINE.

[@SabinStargem]

Personally, I think the Hyper Hammer is a good weapon. Unlike a beam saber, it can penetrate I-Fields and the like because it isn't a energy weapon. Further, the hammer itself has jets that allows it to be a guided and relatively ranged melee weapons. Given further development, I could see it being a form of Bit weaponry, where the pilot mentally guides multiple morningstar heads, smashing and crushing the target. The downsides of the hammer really comes from the lack of portability...which the Zaku family line solved. They have spiked shoulders, which they tackle enemies with. If a mech could mount the hammers on the shoulders, they can easily carry the balls without them being in the way.

[@kyletimmons2940]

That's exactly how the Bolt Gundam from G Gundam fights. It has a large mace head built into its shoulder that it fires like a cannon. which is tethered to its arm via a chain... made of beam energy.

[@Plaprad]

My question is, how well would the Doms beam "cannon" do against infantry and light armored vehicles. Seems a Dom doing a drive by of a supply convoy made of trucks would be very effective. A big part of a weapons effectiveness is how someone decides to use it. Some of the most idiotic and crazy ideas in real life actually worked rather well.

[@bthsr7113]

That does sound like it should work well.

[@riptors9777]

Debatable since "convoys" in the UC timeline are hardly comparable to convoys nowadays. After all everything is now MS sized (because they need to transport MS sized stuff)... wich does include convoy vehicles. Wich also means that they would have armor/structure to go along with it. As for against infantry? I dont think you can get that chest beam emitter close enough to infantry to use it as an anti infantry weapon. The dom would basically have to bend over a group of infantry and then shoot them point blank (from an MS point of view) to cause damage. Remember that the scatter gun on the doms chest had absolutely no range.. and it has never been seen to cause actual damage even on a surface level... wich considering how particle weapons in gundam work should have atleast sandpapered/pockmarked any metal surface in the vicinity. Heck it couldnt even be used to intercept missles or such like a vulcan gun. It might cause permanent blindness against unshielded eyes though considering the intensity of the light, so one use i could see for it is crowd control against riots?

[@Plaprad]

@@riptors9777 I can see some of your points. We'd never know without actual data on the weapon. But a convoy is a convoy. They've been pretty much the same for millennia. I can't see them changing much by UC. I remember going through my convoy escort training and seeing how a lot of it was developed in WWII and still in use today. One thing I've always been curious about with the "spicy camera flash" as my buddy once called it is can it focus? Maybe it can develop an actual beam, but the pilots just set the focus to "shotgun". And I may be wrong, but I seem to remember somewhere a Dom using it to intercept an incoming missile. But this could just be old age and wishful thinking.

[@riptors9777]

@@Plaprad What i mean is that the beam scatter gun of the Dom is not capable of actually inflicting damage, at all. Also sadly, no,, it cannot focus.. its called a scatter gun for a reason. MS Handheld beam weapons with two different firing modes werent even invented at that point int time. Remember this was the very beginning of MS beam weapon engineering and Zeon had massive issues with their beam weapon project. It is even stated in the wiki that all it can do is produce a bright flash. Also the vehicles used to transport equipment during the OYW, the samson trailers for example, dwarf every vehicle we have in use nowadays. Wich also means that they are more robust. And the beam scatter gun of a DOM cant even destroy unarmored targets such as missles or grenades.. so it stands to reason that it could not even scratch a medea transport. Infact there isnt a single instance in all of UC gundam where a doms beam scatter gun destroyed anything at all... or even caused superficial damage. Its really just a mech sized camera flash. (there is plenty of examples though where the flash was successfully used to blind the enemy and then destroy them with another weapon, so the thing wasnt completly useless)

[@bthsr7113]

I mean, a transport is always going to have way less protection than than the elite super prototype or even rank and file frontline combat vehicles. So I do believe that a Dom could probably do hideous things to rear line logistics vehicles with the integral beam weapon. And definitely neutralize exposed infantry.

[@pielover91]

Never forget... the Scattering Beam Cannon was pretty much required to bring down the Mudrock Gundam.

[@donovanbradford8231]

Very true when piloting a Dom you don't need a jet stream attack just do a Gundam version if the Solar Flare and follow it up with a quick beam saber to the chest and call it a day.

[@pielover91]

@@donovanbradford8231 I think the playthrough I saw was a bit more thorough,,, They triple teamed it with rockets afterwards

[@Cypher.]

There is the SD Gundam Scad Hammers game where the RX-78-2 was only equipped with the Gundam Hammer.

[@KuruniXD]

And Tem manages to evacuate on the White Base, allows him to make even better hammers!

[@randaljr.8581]

You must not have played Gundam Battle Assault 2... the Gundam Hammer! was broken lol. Took off a full health bar. and you could do it 3 times per match.

[@frigginresulrum]

Also talked smack about the Agguguy, which is stupidly powerful in the right hands Edit: I'm an idiot and read "Gundam Battle Operation 2" not, Battle Assault 2.

[@icdeadpipol]

The Battle Assault series IMO was a poor representation for MS combat as the fights were restricted in space barely enough for the MS/MA to display their mobility.

[@mephosto]

we need to be nice to the nether typhoon, they can't all be as amazing as the dreaded tequila vortex.

[@dariuszrutkowski420]

So glad that Neo- Poland's Gundam Magnate isn't the suckiest one. It's armament while not the most modern looks to be superior to the walking windmill.

[@dylansmith1364]

5:12 To be fair the meteor hammer is terrifying in her hands.

[@saiken811]

4:13 i was not expecting the squeak lmao

[@carlzerris6566]

Gonna be honest and this may be because i am a Unicorn fanboy. I dont think the reasons you mentioned make it a bad weapon. The double zetas high mega cannon had a big blast range but that doen't make it a bad weapon. And the fact that only unicorn can use it.....frankly is a plus. Afterall. How hilarious would it be for your opponent to try using it against you only to have their arm blown off by the recoil?

[@vustvaleo8068]

the Gundam Hammer also appears in the Anno Domini timeline used by the Astraea Type-F.

[@noahsterben5666]

I don’t really feel the beam magnum should be on here even as an honorable mention. Yes the power can hurt Allies close in proximity and some mobile suits but a few things to keep in mind, not every weapon Is meant for all types of engagements. And even rocket launchers we have used could hurt allies through its back blast. It does have downsides but those seem more situational then real detriments. Just like all weapons.

[@GojiraFan-in9oo]

A better pick would have been the GP02's atomic bazooka if he wants to stick with the ally argument

[@riptors9777]

@@GojiraFan-in9oo To be fair again: The GP02 was never meant to stand BEHIND allies when using that weapon. Infact the GP02 was a strategic weapon, hence the lack of any real anti-MS weaponry on it. Wasnt the idea that the GP01 would function as an escort till the GP02 could deploy its strategic weapon and then both scedadle?

[@spacetaz3382]

The prototype Amakusa from Crossbone Gundam had a weapon based off the Gundam hammer so I guess it was technically used one more time in UC

[@rakhmathadita3917]

funny thing in gundam battle assault 2, gundam hammer is OG gundam finishing move, and if timed correctly, it can easily remove 1 bar

[@SS2LP]

Pretty sure there are some suits that can handle the magnum. There’s manga scans I’ve seen of the delta kai holding one, believe the manga is across the sky, the issue really boiled down to the other suits weren’t made originally with the weapon in mind, the delta plus predates the unicorn suits by a few years first showing up in 0090 and the silver bullet suppressor is technically built with it in mind but is all built on what amounts to doven wolf specs so another suit that predates the weapon.

[@TheWarmachine375]

3:54 And yet Gundam AGE never revealed what's the power source for the mobile suits in that series.

[@kakarot197]

For the Genoace, AA batteries probably

[@RayShadow278]

@@kakarot197 Nah have you seen Dendoh? You can get a lot more punch out of AA Batteries lol

[@EungsuLee]

@@kakarot197 DAMN YOU ENERGIZER!

[@Joshua_N-A]

Must be Forerunner tech. Lol..JK.

[@KuruniXD]

I still like the fan theory that Genoace is Mobile Security (police) forced to work as Mobile Suit (soldier), so its heat stick is analog to police baton.

[@kevjad6536]

please make a jegan/jesta/gustav development history..... awesome video btw

[@marioangelini1860]

I wonder if the Jeda will be mentioned because is the predecessor of the Jegan and the Jegan variants like the ECOAS version will be mentioned it would be awesome.

[@lopezg378]

So in other words the Dom got a flashbang that is pretty God damn smart

[@anwenlokier2292]

In my school vr game, the weakest weapon is the unicorn gundam beam magnum for a single reason after Goalius was poisoned badly by Eri the dawn of fold did surgery and bio reconstruction to be a omega pirate (the omega pirate from metroid prime has a ability that it use while it doesn't attack where it puts its hands up and absorbs energy blasts) which makes him immune to about 99% of beam weapons besides a mega partical cannon and the big cannons on the destroy Gundam back

[@zombieplus1423]

Here I was thinking you had to the double check the MG Dom's manual for a Dom development history... instead you had to go and remind me that Zimmad decided to give their state of the art mobile suit high beams.

[@saberwing7930]

Personally, I think you should have stuck with either weak or bad weapons, and not try to have both in the same video. So, it would be a video for weapons that sucked for lack of damage or ineffectiveness, and another for weapons that were plenty powerful, but undercut by other issues, like being hazardous to friend and foe alike. The Unicorn's Beam Magnum is a textbook case of Awesome, But Impractical. It is awesomely powerful, but the large kill radius combined with the low capacity make using it in battle hard. It is probably best suited for engagements against single large targets like a Mobile Armor. The fact that it had a kill radius could also be useful, for taking out a squad of enemies like a shotgun, but that would be tricky to pull off. It would also require there to be no friendlies in you line of fire. What it needed was a lower power mode, but that's arguably what the beam gatlings were for. One thing that has never made sense to me is the idea of swapping out arms in order to use the beam magnum. I would think that it would be a lot simpler to just beef up one or both arms, because it's not a case of the RX-0 series being able to wield it only because they could use the effects of the psycho frame to dampen recoil. And, Anaheim probably has some spare parts lying around, just leave out the psycho frame parts. Another, even simpler option would be to make some kind of stock for the beam magnum. Doing that, and going right to the frame of the MS would probably reduce the stress on the arm joints enough to make it useable.

[@Wolfedge75]

Wasn’t the Gundam Hammer a holdover from it’s campier, Super Robot-ish elements?

[@datvu9537]

The vibrating dagger that the Mobile Suits in Gundam 00 had. During the first ep Patrick pulled it out on the Exia

[@huntermad5668]

We saw Flag with Sword so likely Eanact had one too. Likely Patrick's suit just didn't have it onboard as that was a demonstration anyway. They might place it somewhere in the area to show off the melee performance later. Likely the Vibro Knife is the last resort

[@riptors9777]

Nah, the vibro knife worked just well against the mobile suits produced by every other country at the time. Just not against plot armored gundams ofcourse XD

[@bitterblossom19]

When you think about it, the gundam hammer with verniers looks like a non-psycommu version of early wired bit/funnel technology. That's stretching a small chewing gum by a mile but what to do, thing is so out of place it doesn't make any sense.

[@RainStorm148]

Blitz' Trikeros deserved a special mention, i think. the idea is great (composite offense defense system where your hand doesnt have to switch weapons or a minor delay between going from offense to defense or vice versa) BUT if your opponent decides to disarm you...

[@Wingnut00-zero]

The weapon system was fine, it's just that the Blitz really didn't have much of anything else to use as a backup.

[@AtelierGod]

Don’t forget that the Blitz was rolled out during a time of primarily physical weapons which phase shift armor neutralized.

[@bluedestiny2710]

I'd say the more useless part of the Blitz was the Gliepnir (the grappling hook weapon on its right arm). Sure its a capturing weapon... I think... but i think pointing a gun at the enemy and forcing them to surrender would be as effective. I guess it could be used as a dodging weapon similar to how the Strike Noir used its rocket propelled anchors... but it was never seen being used this way

[@icdeadpipol]

Actually liked this weapons and was hoping there was another set to wield on the left arm. With a few modification it can probably support adding a ranged wire feature similar to the Strike Noir. Should a mod be added to the Trikeros itself, perhaps a railgun launcher to launch those lances at a higher speed (rather than rely on a rocket propulsion embedded on the lance) enough to counter any PS Armor (similar to a Dainsleif). Combined with the Meteor Colloid cloaking system, it can be pretty scary as it will be difficult to track where the shot came from.

[@Joshua_N-A]

@@icdeadpipol speaking of lances, are you familiar with the words "Rod from God"? I mean, Nicol could've activate mirage colloid, place the Blitz in orbit and position it above the intended target like major strategic bases, the mass drivers or even the White House itself (Atlantic Federation is said to be the strongest out of all the major powers in Earth Alliance).

[@ProfessM]

Say what you will about the Gundam version of the Vampire Killer, that hammer is often stupidly good in games and has the rule of cool to make it work at times.

[@dtayza5432]

Helaas pindakaas wasn't what I was expecting to hear in this vid but it got a big laugh out of me. Dankje!

[@Blockio1999]

Honorable mention to the Hathaway funnel missiles for being the single most cost ineffective weapon in UC

[@EungsuLee]

Wouldn't Psyco Gundams fit that category better? Eh, all of them didn't do much except giving their pilots mental issues.

[@bthsr7113]

The Psycho Gundam could actually hurt things and repeatedly with energy weapons. Putting Funnel Tech in missiles requires massive resource expenditure for a single use weapon.

[@BNuts]

I'd like to add the beam weaponry on the Mobile Armour in _IBO_ to the list: Because of their wide use during the Calamity War, all mobile suits of the current story era are equipped with nanolaminate armour, which, while they can be worn off eventually, still deflects the beam fire around them. I distinctly remember one of the young boys of Tekkadan putting his Shiden between a town and the MA to try to take the hit, but the beam bends around his unit, and hits the town anyway. And then there's also the fact that the MAs all went out of control in the first place, and it was the job of the mobile suits built around Gundam frames to hunt them down. Nanolaminate armour also meant that the most effective weapons against mobile suits were melee weapons. But we can add Helmwige Reincar's big, fat sword to the list as well, because it's so ungainly it could only work against the MA. And the poor Helmwige only got to serve as a sword holder for Barbatos Lupus, which is very unfortunate for the MS that used to be the awesome Grimgerde.

[@bthsr7113]

Well to criticize the beam weapon is unfair since it can still ravage population centers for the "kill all humans thing," and the armor was developed after the cannon. So it's kind of like criticizing an original T-72 or earlier for not being able to kill an Abrams.

[@BNuts]

That's saying "my beams are ineffective against my target, but I'm gonna fire it anyway." Just as stupid is firing your weapons if you know they can be redirected against you. It's not like Hashmal doesn't have claws and such, right? Pretty sure Barbatos took its tail for a reason. Maybe it's Hashmal's AI that's flawed, not the beam?

[@VRHyoumaru]

I'm surprised the iconic head-mounted Vulcan never got a mention in this, for as iconic and everlasting as it is, it rarely gets used, let alone makes an impact anywhere ever.

[@johnsmithfakename8422]

I think the Vulcans worked for their intended purpose. They were not intended to be an anti-MS weapon but they were intended to be used for interception (namely Missiles and aircraft), as a side note they were also good enough for MS anti-personnel role. The Vulcans were specifically noted as not having enough power to destroy a MS but they could damage soft targets (like cameras and joints).

[@lordilluminati5836]

amuro kills a zaku with them in episode 1. they also shoot down missiles and kill infantry. vulkans are crazy good

[@demomanchaos]

Vulcans are great against soft targets, like aircraft and infantry. They also could work well for suppression and distraction, and if used properly could be effective at damaging more exposed components to mission-kill an MS. IRL example would be the fact that a BMP-T's hull can shrug off a .50 BMG round without even noticing but the sights/turret are very vulnerable so wrecking that knocks the BMP-T out of the fight without destroying it. In some games they are basically a necessity, like Gundam Crossfire. The lack of Vulcans makes the Zeon fight against the much more numerous and capable Federation aircraft much more difficult (And how Zeke units just kind of suck overall in that game compared to Federation units, and the Guntank spam certainly doesn't help).

[@EungsuLee]

Head vulcan is basically a MS version of CIWS. It does have its own fair use.

[@marthofaltea1751]

​@@EungsuLeeSEED MS actually label them as CIWS.

[@spaghettisama]

Very surprised to find out you're Belgian. Always fun to find fellow countrymen making content that's actually popular globally.

[@CyberVirtual]

The entire arsenal wielded by the OZ-08MMS Cancer or OZ-09MMS Pisces make everything on this list look like a sophisticated weapons to be honest.

[@kurisu7885]

The Nether-Gundam really deserves a Gunpla.

[@laxiden1595]

Everyone can mock genoace, but No one dare mock Genoace O Custom lol

[@mikeeB-m5h]

About the beam magnum, the Gundam Delta Kai's arms was said to be reinforced in order to use the Unicorn's gun.

[@casbalt7763]

The hammer is fun in games that let you use it though lol. Maybe that was what they were thinking

[@justacheeseburger6011]

Genoace: we had stick two sticks and a rock and we share the rock

[@goufr3540]

Nothing is more OP than the ever famous Neo Sweden Neithers/Windmill Gundam. No one can see it coming, like a built in Ultra Instinct.

[@thedigitaldummy3098]

I got into gundam a few months ago through gunpla kits. The first HG I ever bought was the YMS-15 Gyan (Revive ver.). While I understand that the needle missiles and hide bombs were by no means anaemic, mounting them in a shield is such a spectacularly ridiculous concept. It’s a chain fire waiting to happen. Who would possibly think it a good idea to store all the explosives carried by a mobile suit in its shield? Did the Zimmad company misunderstand the concept of ERA?

[@demomanchaos]

To be fair where else are you going to put them? At least with the shield storage the detonation is away from the hull.

[@thedigitaldummy3098]

@@demomanchaos chances are that if the hull was hit something bad enough to detonate the ammo, the pilot would be killed anyway. The hull should avoid getting hit or direct fire into the shield which it can’t if the shield is also supposed to function handheld ammo depot.

[@demomanchaos]

@@thedigitaldummy3098 You'd be surprised what kind of damage a well designed armored vehicle can take any keep the pilot intact. In Ukraine there are quite a few Bradleys which took very nasty hits but the crew managed to escape largely unscathed. With proper blow-out panels and storage the risk of a chain detonation is actually quite limited, though the Gyan is not really meant to trade fire as she is a basically a CQB only MS.

[@mechzilla569]

the beam magnum while powerful as all hell is overkill

[@Nehfarius]

It's fine if the Nether Gundam wasn't the best(due to Rutger, admittedly, being kind of a crap pilot). We over in Neo Holland built a LOT of them(and had to trot them out when the Devil Gundam came calling). You might've seen them, they took pride of place among some of Neo Denmark's sea creature Gundam prototypes.

[@Hartzilla2007]

Which is also why I'm suspicious of Neo Holland. I can't think of any non try to take over the world reasons for building a Gundam army.

[@Nehfarius]

@@Hartzilla2007 Yeah, well at least we're not responsible for the Wing Gundam, a Gundam so ridiculous it went on to get its own show after the fact.

[@Servellion]

I've never really understood if the Leo's weapon is weak or the Gundam's armor was too strong since I do seem to remember people using those same guns to take out Taurus and Virgos.

[@EksaStelmere]

To be fair, at that size, a projectile mace should be MUCH more powerful than depicted.

[@popeyeginger6840]

The windmill gundam😂.. I love the g gundam series but some of em were hilarious and others crazy

[@TheKusa5]

at the dom section I thought you were gonna mention the Beam Bazooka which had a habit of exploding on its user but was so damn cool ;w;

[@failed_K]

gotta love how most of the RX 78's arsenal was basically the designers throwing random stuff to see if it could actually work

[@twelfthknight]

For a simple peacekeeping unit in what was a very peaceful era the Genoace makes sense. You want an MS that's got minimal weaponry but can still defend itself technically. It's just that the Federation didn't even attempt to develop anything more capable when faced with over a decade of UE terrorist attacks which the Genoace could do nothing whatsoever to prevent. I know the Earth Federation is supposed to be corrupt in AGE but... well, it strains credulity that they'd remain in power if they needed 10+ years and a 15 year old Flit Asuno* to achieve any kind of effective military response to repeated deadly incursions by an enemy state that have resulted in innumerable deaths of their citizens.

[@riptors9777]

He was 15? He looked more like a 10 year old... sheesh they really wanted that show to resonate with the little kids

[@twelfthknight]

@@riptors9777After actually wiki-ing it, Flits 14 at the start. Also, yeah, Bandai was clearly trying to cater to that Yo-Kai Watch/Inazuma Eleven demographic that Level-5 were so successful with. With enough confidence to turn a simple PSP RPG concept into a full anime series. Didn't work out, evidently, but In a few years they would release the Gundam Build series.

[@riptors9777]

@@twelfthknight The build series opened up strong, but they dumped it down to much... divers was the weakest one so far.. i swear they had absolutely no idea what to do with that particular one.. the show was all over the place before it remembered at the last two episodes that it actually had a plot... im mildly optimistic for the new one thats suposed to push their little metaverse idea...

[@Mobius_118]

TBF, the Hammer was probably for psychological warfare. Like, you're laughing with your buddies about how ridiculous the Gundam looks charging at you with that and then one of you gets one-shotted by it.

[@THF117]

I would've thought the idea of the Strike's knives would be here, even though they did something in the show