China's Plan to invade Taiwan with Soviet jets

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[@FoxtrotYouniform]

​@Booz2020Hey, good point! We simply cannot allow people to change their minds about things, GET HIM 🙃

[@Shadowgunner785]

Honestly, this video for me is shocking and scary to think about. Turning old aircraft into drones can be very cost effective and little risk for china.

[@metrik1b.257]

Dude the vid just got uploaded

[@Kamome163]

Yes, and the total number of those drones is nothing to overlook either.

[@Shadowgunner785]

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[@Anderson-f4t6c]

​@@metrik1b.257i watch a video at 3x speed, so it takes only 4minute to watch one fully

[@leoburst6]

​@@Kamome163 wow the presentation of these videos are beautiful. What software do you use to make these?

[@thomasvleminckx]

This is a plot from Ace Combat

[@hankent]

Why do the largest drone producer "venture" to invest money in old aircrafts and make them act like drones? The US has a much larger stock of old aircrafts, why not making them great again by turning them into drones......Oh, it's a game video clip! makes sense.

[@mrnissan3262]

next thing you know there will be a country that will construct a couple of giant railguns and name them stonehenge

[@valemogi3137]

All of a sudden the Arsenal Bird feels like it could be a real thing

[@gg-eo6ez]

@@hankent Uh no, no its not a clip of Ace Combat

[@hankent]

@@gg-eo6ez Does not bother me since turning old jets into drones never occurred and aero modification does not come as easy as flip of a mouth. For a fake content, a fake video is well deserved. I fully acknowledge the dire need to draw attention and get paid by video clicks.

[@andyhughes1776]

They could simply use these old jets to overwhelm Taiwan 's air defense systems. While the air defense systems are busy tracking these drones, a few hypersonic missiles follow and it's bye-bye any targets!

[@nekad2000]

And then what? Taiwan simply rebuilds? Because there's no way China can invade.

[@Kairat_Tech]

Those systems prioritize.

[@alqash6749]

​@kairatkempirbaev7183 assuming the drones can bomb, the aa systems will still have trouble coming their way

[@masterlightjames950]

​@@Kairat_Techthose systems are in Northern Israel and they have a 100% failure rate 😂

[@dennisestradda9746]

Three gorges dam bye bye

[@byakuya3603]

China can manufacture more than 10 million civilian drones a year, and it is easy to manufacture a large number of drones.

[@TCKRDefense]

Can't America produce 30 million drones a year?

[@Dordord]

America can't produce 30 millions, probably 30 a year

[@fridaynight3181]

All just to get jamm by the system

[@pppp3997]

By what countries chips?😂

[@harrydunn3687]

MQ9 must have been sent to China from Yemen?

[@asdfasdffdcd]

BBC: But at what cost?

[@sad_man_no_talent]

a lot

[@frederickzhou7464]

In modern war，the loss of pilot is more unacceptable than loss of aircraft. All countries spent tons of effort to train one pilot. If drone can do dangerous task. No matter spend how many drones，it is worthy.

[@Lancemoolied]

😂😂😂😂😂Bro knows the meme

[@xieyvchen]

美国以这个为理由联合欧洲国家，像对待俄罗斯那样对待中国，制裁，分裂，世界将会陷入非常危险的境地，对世界经济和地区安全都是毁灭性的打击，美国最擅长这个了

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

back in the mid 1980s the USAF initiated a similar program of converting old retired F-4 Phantom II fighter jets into target aircraft during live fire exercises . . . remember the experimental unmanned F-16 . . .

[@豊川祥子-m6r]

So we can still see Mig-19 or Mig-21 fighting against F-4，but all these fighters are unmanned😂😂🤣

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

Honestly, converting old jets into combat drones is a genius strategy. It’s very low cost, it’s effective in large numbers, and it all doesn’t cost a single human pilot. It would likely cost the Chinese government more to scrap the planes than to recommission them as drones. And with the sheer numbers of them they could easily overwhelm Taiwan’s modern defensive capabilities. All without costing a single Chinese pilot’s life. They could instead have as many boots on the ground as possible and leave the air support to their drones. The Shenyang J-6 is a formidable and capable fighter aircraft in its time. It will prove to be a formidable fighter in its new life as a UAV.

[@zhurs-mom]

yea i have no doubt in a war scenario taiwanese airforce wouldnt last a month but stingers javelins and rocky beaches forests and mountanous terrains any invasion attempt would not succeed

[@sarahjenkins7064]

@@zhurs-momI seriously doubt there would be a war scenario. The Taiwanese would surrender the second a missile is launched.

[@henrywang3977]

​@@zhurs-mom The mountains only matters when they guard important logistical lines or holding a large percentage of population or important recourses. Otherwise, simply not going into the mountains and instead using a siege strategy, can work out pretty well for the offensive side.

[@瑞貝卡-k2d]

@@sarahjenkins7064 Taiwan is my home. I defend my family and I will never surrender.

[@sarahjenkins7064]

@@瑞貝卡-k2d the second you fire back you and your whole family are done.

[@28ebdh3udnav]

Back when I was 18, ten years ago, I remember telling people that it would be great to use old jets to be used as drones. They have like 500 Fishbeds in storage. Also, they have the ability to make hundreds of drones from wood and some metal pipes. People called me crazy or immature because I got the idea from call of duty games...

[@Capeau]

Yeah it was kind of obvious this was happening.

[@User-jr7vf]

I honestly don't know why this would be a good idea. I mean, you can build drones with light material, simple motor will make it fly, while if you want to convert a jet into a drone, then you will need to put in a lot more of steam, it is heavy, I don't see any reason to think it is cost effective to convert aircraft into drones.

[@Capeau]

@@User-jr7vf imagine fpv drones with mini jet engines on them 🙂

[@Capeau]

@@User-jr7vf you still need bigger jets for bigger bombs and speed or altitude

[@ThisNoName]

@@User-jr7vf This is from old old old war plans, long before China had GPS, long range rocket and booming drone industry.

[@jonerlucas3933]

I imagine that these "lesser" jets operated by the computer are connected to one more advanced jet such as the J-11 which has a real human pilot inside them who has total control of the of the computer operated jets. He could assign tasks for the AI-jets for example "shield host jet", "bomb this target" etc. This could make a fighter pilot's job way more efficient and he would act as a "commander of the swarm" or something like that. This would also boost up the efficiency and create more tactical possibilities for the pilot or the squadron mid-flight/-operation.

[@vapormissile]

Yep.. it looks bleak.

[@shafiqirfaqi4179]

That’s a scary thought.

[@NorthCot.mus.dept.9]

This sounds more like an in-game feature than a real thing.

[@cesaravegah3787]

Congrats, you have an small part of an idea that DARPA has on the work decades ago and that the F35 is already capable of, you can read about the "wingman" and "drone swarm" programs of the USA air force

[@joedirt7553]

You’re giving the PLA too much credit. Have you seen Chinese products?

[@jamesg2382]

Beautiful maps. They really help. Thanks for the video

[@ayxan3950]

Similar tactics were applied in 2020 Karabakh war. Azerbaijan used old "Kukuruznik" farmer planes to find location of air defence systems

[@JensMeier-yd3jv]

Cringe

[@nishantverma9169]

​@@JensMeier-yd3jv armenia lost cry more

[@JensMeier-yd3jv]

@@nishantverma9169 Who cares?

[@cloudy7937]

You talking about 12:00 ?

[@SadParting97]

Thats fucking smart. Turning mig19s into autonomous drones... Damn...

[@genoatamayo5630]

Thats totally idiotic on current technology, I doubt it can even fly 😅 it's made in China remember

[@jonatasmoises7867]

@@genoatamayo5630 prejudice and so great that blinds the person from reality

[@SadParting97]

@genoatamayo5630 oh they fly alright. And do not underestimate the Chinese. They have significantly advanced their technology in all fronts and their quality in manufacturing. It's not like how it was 10 even 5 years ago.

[@loadingnewads]

@@genoatamayo5630prejudice and intentional misinforming changed your perception so easily… China produces all kinds of stuff, from high quality to fragile low quality products, of course they have the ability to build something very durable

[@loadingnewads]

the US has thousands of this kind of obsolete aircrafts, if these can be turned into cheap drones…

[@user-zz6xv3dn9y]

Are they legit trying to make their own 'Faceless soldier' from Ace Combat 7?

[@zacksquire5596]

They arent trying. This tech has existed for a while now. America created an AI controlled F-16 fighter jet that can beat a human pilot 100% of the time. Think about it. Humans have limits like G forces making you pass out. Fear and other emotions. The AI knows exactly the point when the wings will rip off due to excessive G forces. It has the memory of billions of simulated dogfights against every possible adversary. It knows exactly when to fire missiles in order to score a hit unlike humans. It can fire and track cannons from multiple kilometers further than humans even with computers helping us. Scary to think about but Human pilots wont exist in 50 years. Maybe you'll have 1 pilot in a jet guiding huge swarms of these jets but when it comes to dogfights and being a missile bus. No human can compete against a computer.

[@chengda85]

@@zacksquire5596 TFW you get killed in a dogfight by chatGPT

[@salvatorequattrocchi2582]

It’s a creative, initially cheap idea but most importantly it’s deceptive for an adversary. Wasting a million dollar missile on this aged jet may not be viable.

[@Shadx27]

I was thinking North Korea would consider doing this with all their old jets.

[@JAy-dx1xb]

What old jets 😂

[@Mik_Aerospace]

I don't think they have any old jets that isn't in service

[@JAy-dx1xb]

@Booz2020 north Korean spy what are you doing

[@loadingnewads]

Those are the only jets they have…buddy is making schemes 😂

[@danielch6662]

North Korean combat units are still flying Mig-21, Mig-19, J-6, and even J-5 planes. The wikipedia page says they have in service 120 J-7, 97 J-6, 106 F-5, 80 H-5, 38 Su-25, 18 Su-7, 26 Mig-21, 56 Mig-23, and 35 Mig-29. That's 576 combat aircraft. A really large airforce. Though I wonder if all those aircraft are truly still operational. The J-5s are really old, and the last Su-7 was made all the way back in 1972. Most of the planes are probably older than the people watching this video.

[@ihitonmilfs]

ace combat 7 is becoming a reality

[@maxpower19711]

Ukraine is already doing this with light aircraft, which have proven extremely effective. Now imagine if instead of small piston engines planes, the drones are based on Mach-2 capable jets

[@ItsJoKeZ]

thank you! was looking for this.

[@DCresident123]

You spelled CIA wrong...

[@rickycoverrubias6176]

I havent seen ukraine do this

[@napobg6842]

Not if the opponent has effective electronic countermeasures like the US

[@creepermariguano942]

@@rickycoverrubias6176 they use cessnas as drones, and lead them to objectives inside russia, there are some videos

[@timbtamgomez9110]

These drones can also be used in suicide drone missions

[@seanhsiung5080]

And, the J-6 is over 20000 lbs fully loaded, indeed a super heavy suicidal drone.

[@HistoryDR.C.History]

有些台灣朋友真的萬分天真，他們希望：「用美國人的血，去保衛台灣」；可惜，美國人的想法是：「用台灣人的血，去煞停中國的發展」。美國人一旦在台灣找到代理人做台灣的總統，一旦成功控制台灣的國防部，台海兩岸什麼時候發生戰爭，就不是由中國人決定了；美國人一定會選最有利他們的時機，台灣人就只能用最後一滴血去完成美國人的「陽謀」了。

[@jiongkevin1322]

至今那些台湾人都没看清自己是什么角色，越是帮着民进党，战争来的越是快，这场战争避免不了的，只是时间问题，时间一到，就像乌克兰一样，美国就会挑起战争让台湾人送死，让中国倒退

[@참이슬조아유]

대만도 마찬가지 아니가? 세상에서 제일 나쁜사람들 ㅉㅉㅉ

[@senzosanjuro1769]

Taiwanaise and american soldiers are not unarmed Tibetans monks 😅 China will lose everything if it invades Taïwan, nobody will allow that. Taïwan is the true China, chinese continent is like North Korea occupied by a communist dictator 👎 CCP is scared of America 👍😅

[@bikecrew1736]

美國為了韓國 越南 死了多少人 美國國家利益一定大於軍人的命 台灣是美國不能輸的位子 跟以色列差不多 台灣要好好珍惜現在 用矽盾來跟美國談判

[@Yarxk-j7w]

太迟了，从撞翻中国渔船开始，他们这届政府就已经纳了投名状。美国政府一向是这样的，每届政府上台必然战争，每纳入一个盟友必然要祭品。这种投名状是一种很古老的传统，我们可以在很多中国古代史前文献和世界各地的人祭发现他们的蛛丝马迹。假如有兴趣的话可以搜索荷兰银行家揭秘，今时今日人祭依然存在。

[@AwardQueue]

This video is nicely produced, Thanks for presenting it.

[@StevenXu321]

Taiwan is a province of China,so it can't be called "invade"

[@CheapSushi]

Great video and visuals. Editing wise, near the end there's a part where it directly repeats itself. Editing mistake?

[@nathanielmoran1819]

You've outdone yourself again, Kamome. 🎉 Great video essay, awesome use of geographical overlays.

[@Kamome163]

Thank you, Nathaniel!

[@NB543-v5d]

As a Taiwanese, this analysis makes me really shock😱

[@alexliu8087]

你才知道？看来岛内的同胞对大陆的军事能力和储备缺乏最起码的认知。这只是清理一下报废飞机的库存。实际上，各种新型无人机和机器人发展成了什么样子，没有人知道。我们只知道，乌克兰和整个北约在用中国民用无人机公司大疆生产的各种配件组装自己的无人机来对抗俄罗斯。大陆的民用无人机都能被北约拿来当军用的使用。你能想象中国军方使用的无人机的水平吗？

[@chn_yuanbo3106]

不用震惊，这位视频发布者只考虑了空军，没想过我国的“ 火箭军 ”打击后还有多少有效雷达覆盖面积。根本用不着浪费歼-6 去冲击台湾防空网。拿来打美国航母更实在。

[@bilosta123123]

Youre cooked

[@T20K11]

​@@bilosta123123😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chi-chengwang259]

I am Taiwanese, too. I am not shock at all because poor MIC quality especillay when lack of chips.

[@sarahjenkins7064]

As each day go by, Taiwan is beginning to look more and more like Ukraine.

[@hallowwin2721]

Philppines and Taiwan are fighting hard for the Asian Ukraine title.

[@slomo4672]

​@@hallowwin2721To China, a shoal is no Taiwan 😂

[@mimikolomamu]

the more you watch these youtube "expert" video. the dumber you become

[@leoleoleoliao4413]

Not gonna happen, cus it is not a country, just a province

[@mimikolomamu]

@@leoleoleoliao4413 your logic is world class. country or province?? the fact of the matter is the island got an army and military support to fight proxy war....

[@ayush.pandey.2007]

You know Quantity has Quality of its own .

[@wedmunds]

The Germans would know 🤣

[@waldenlaker]

Correction: this is not an invasion, this is the continuation of the China civil war which never reached a proper end.

[@waldenlaker]

Also, there is no country in the world called Taiwan. If you are refereing to the other side of PLA, it is called Republic of China. I feel so sorry for your history teacher.

[@benym9146]

Truth!!!!!

[@NederlandPincong]

Most Taiwanese people don't self-identify as Chinese, it was the KMT forces from China that had anything to do with that bigger country. Since the first free election in the 90s, Taiwan has been no longer a belonging of the KMT, and now it's the natives' own nation. So this is literally an INVASION, without ambiguity.

[@Xcelcior6780]

True

[@ΝικοςΑνθουλακης]

oh no ace combat 7 is becoming a reality 💀

[@hsieh583]

The video hypothesizes that the PLA would repurpose 600 retired J-6 aircraft from the 1960s-80s into drones stationed at Longtian Airbase in Fujian, aiming to disrupt and expose Taiwan's air defense systems, which would then be destroyed by PLA anti-radiation missiles. However, this hypothesis has significant flaws: 1. There is insufficient evidence to suggest that modified J-6 aircraft could operate effectively under high-intensity conditions. Even in peacetime, the PLA would need to verify the operational capabilities of these modified drones, ensuring they can at least take off, follow planned routes, and potentially self-destruct upon success. 2. The aforementioned testing would be easily detected by Taiwan's high-performance PAVE PAWS radar systems positioned across the strait, not to mention that such testing would be extremely costly. 3. The J-6 is a traditional aircraft with hydraulic controls. To achieve stable flight control via modern computers, extensive servo motors and PLCs would need to be installed. These modern electromechanical systems are unlikely to work reliably in old, poorly maintained airframes. Imagine buying an old 1980s motorcycle with a two-stroke engine and wire brakes, then attempting to convert it into an electric bike that can perform simple automated tasks without a rider. How much time and expense would that entail? Similarly, each J-6 would require individual repairs and significant testing to become a reliable weapon. 4. You might counter my argument by pointing out the construction of over a hundred bunkers at the airbase. If the tests were not successful, why build such expensive structures? Western observers must understand that the PLA bureaucracy, like other bureaucracies, is prone to corruption. The presence of numerous bunkers does not constitute proof of successful testing and deployment of J-6 drones. 5. Finally, due to bureaucratic tendencies, if an unverified project involving hundreds of J-6 drones consumes a large budget, newly appointed officials might cut future funding in favor of their preferred projects. This pattern is common in many countries. Therefore, I believe that the video's claim of hundreds of modified J-6 drones posing a threat to Taiwan is based on an insufficiently rigorous assumption.

[@kkhalifah1019]

Converting old jets into drones is absolutely nothing new, the West has been doing it since several decades ago -- US missile manufacturers test their products on target drones converted from old jets. The fact they're already at an airfield instead of languishing at a boneyard in the desert indicates they're operational, and they're much simpler to maintain as these unsophisticated J-6s were locally manufactured. One of the uses of these expendable drones is to attract the attention of your PAVE PAWS radar systems so that they can be earmarked for destruction. And drone conversions won't consume insane budgets -- there are no greedy Raytheons & Lockheed Martins in China, and China has been able to modernize its entire military with a budget that's only a fraction of USA's military budget.

[@yiqunfan5294]

Well you are talking to something already have a hundreds in number and is happening as we speak. However, The J6 drone is more like a small amount of modification as it’s more like experimental instead of an active strategy. Still, they already run this project for like 5 years, I guess they will keep working on this.

[@hsieh583]

Converting old airplanes into drones is certainly not a new concept, often driven by cost savings or repurposing waste materials. However, such conversions are typically limited to low-intensity uses like target drones. On the other hand, professional military personnel and industrial sectors aim to transform cheaply acquired drones into practical and reliable aircraft that can be reused multiple times and provide accurate training parameters, such as the performance of air defense weapons and radar tracking results. Naturally, only a few well-preserved aircraft are retained, while most are discarded in graveyards. Although they may look impressive and formidable sitting in airports, most of them are just shiny shells. Military enthusiasts are familiar with this story: precisely tracing the maintenance history of an aircraft or ship that has been in use for a very long time usually involves scavenging parts from many graveyard counterparts, ultimately maintaining one historically significant serial number or airframe just enough to fly. I don't understand why the Chinese people have such unwavering trust in their country's weapons programs. For the military industry, public trust is earned through transparent information and fair competition, not collective myths and self-delusional lies. The same principle applies to other industries as well.

[@yiqunfan5294]

@@hsieh583 The case is there are more than 4K J6 and it’s really ez to find replacement part, most of them are retired and park in some university as a cool shit but waste a few hundred on experiment is not a bad idea. Just like T59 tank that is used by firefighters for some other purpose. The current mode is more like spend those planes in certain use instead of left them in rust. This also involve in create new contract opportunities and military training/ practice for different purposes. There are way more drone product exist as China is one of the major exporters in military drones. Both army, airforce and navy has its own official major drone system that not include the J6. However, there are enough of resource to spend on some unpractical program for experiment and other purpose, especially for air man. When you have 1k buck, why bother a 10 buck snack. Some case will be like army’s type19 helmet that is once officially issue but later recover and replace by T21 helmet. Army is always famous for being the last welcome kid with less budget in personal gear but they still have enough of cash on develop new rifle and such. One case you have to understand is most of the military industrial or other state relative program are actually really cost efficient as most of those research or project are well funded by national finance with low cost in material or such. Lots of those fund are waste but Chinese expect technology advance so it’s an acceptable risk. Meanwhile, those industries are full of state own enterprises so cost is never an issue. There are contract that is aim to private company and those usually require a high standard with high profit, but project like this usually just a small sub project with certain available resource and some high rank officers just saying like “hey I got an interesting plan that might have little use but able to train our mechanist and able to help other practice drone tactic” then you got this. Those J6 is expect to be expanded and might not be high efficient. But it will be more a waste of resource for not using them. And that’s pretty much for lots of military equipment you saw in PLA, produce a few for experiment, and the other project are still going. The J6, whatever this video claim, are never the major drone resource but experimental playground for drone tactic or other purpose. However it is serve as target drone at very beginning, guess they want to be creative.

[@kkhalifah1019]

@@hsieh583 If you insist on believing that these are all nothing more than 'shiny aircraft shells' nicely arranged at an operational airbase just for show while accusing others of being delusional, then there's no point arguing further. Hey why not claim these are cardboard planes too, while you're at it?

[@freedemo1115]

It is to liberate Taiwan rather than invade Taiwan. In addition, the Chinese People's Liberation Army has long-range rocket launchers with a range of more than 400 kilometers, which are low enough to cover the entire territory of Taiwan.

[@ksm.edits42]

Liberate Taiwan from a democratically elected government...?

[@TheJimbles]

Found the CCP bot.

[@davout5775]

The issue I find with these jets is that they become very comms heavy. These are not AI systems and even if they were, they would again be communication heavy. The issue is how effective their EW countermeasures are against a powerful foe like the US. Cut their comms and these jets would start dropping from the skies. We don't know what the EW capabilities and the countermeasures of the Chinese are. They don't have reliable allies to test their systems as well. Russia is the only one and their EW capabilities proved to be mediocre at best, failing to jam even consumer-grade drones

[@wintersl4544]

You probably forgot where these consumer grade drones were produced? Do you think China has no measures to counter these drones? Let's take a closer look at why Saudi Arabia, a major player, bought China's laser anti drone system.

[@davout5775]

​@@wintersl4544 Mostly produced in Ukraine actually with off-the-shelf components because it is cheaper. I actually do believe that Chinese EW lacks behind cuntries like the US not only because the US was among the first nations to start developing, testing and using EW but also because they have very technologically advanced allies who they can test and co-develop with. Another area in particular that China most likely lack is defending against EW. China has no real-world experience with the technology and has no reliable allies to test the such systems with. As we know, Russia is not great as well while we previously believed they might be among the best.

[@windcold4532]

@@davout5775 Even if Ukraine assembles its own drones, its parts are purchased from China. Ukraine has a team in Shenzhen, China, that is responsible for purchasing drone parts. Six of the top 10 battery manufacturers in the world are Chinese companies. CATL is the world's largest and most advanced battery manufacturer.

[@am-bushgaming4811]

Why didn’t you mention the American use of anti-aa drones in the gulf war? These drones are not a new thing

[@Propakistani1224]

What American capabilities are we cN see in Afghanistan 😂

[@delirious3911]

@@Propakistani1224 them retreating out of it and running away lmao

[@Chen_Tangerine]

@@alienmorality He means American army broken down and ran away from Afghanistan in 2021, Absolutely

[@UGOISCOOLNOW]

@@alienmoralityit was a military defeat tho the us military left a shit ton of weapons to the taliban hands not to mention the Taliban control more land now than they did in 2001. Fortunately for the Americans this could work for them in the long run considering now the Chinese are starting to meddle with Afghanistan we could see China Afghan war in the near future with the Taliban using 2010 us weapons. It would be a win for America since they’d see how the Chinese military would handle American weapons

[@abyyy490]

@@UGOISCOOLNOW Get your brain checked up today itself.

[@snuffle2269]

With ordnance changes these could swarm the American carrier forces, taking the hits meant for the anti-ship missiles from the Aegis ballistic defense systems mounted on the destroyers shadowing the carriers. A combined arms effect of these absorbing a tremendous amount of hits while still lethal enough to crash into the destroyers, support ships or carriers themselves.

[@haiwang2857]

中国对付美国航母的武器实在太多了。 中国的DF26D，DF17导弹，是专门针对美国航母研制的，速度可以达到10马赫以上，而且轨道可以改变。

[@i888ing]

@@haiwang2857 美國沒有嗎？ 還是中国人命不值錢

[@dv2852]

Lol. A lot of folks really think they can modify old jets into drones to save money or whatnot. It is simply not the case. An old jet has no or little electronics, and to actually control it electronically, you gotta add a lot of actuation, sensing, monitoring and processing equipment, which is either super difficult or expensive to implement.

[@runbarryrun2717]

save money by saving well trained pilots? modifying old jets to act as expendable decoys is better in every situation(if they did it correctly). But we will never know until they get tested. so far unmanned vehicles(air/land/sea) are proven to be better in many wars.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

If a jet has an autopilot, it's nearly a drone already.

[@dv2852]

​@@runbarryrun2717 Maybe some country would do it. But why would China make some half ass modified old jets/drones when they can just make new drones that are cheaper and more effective? Retrofitting old stuff that's been around for half a century is not a great sign for a modern military power.

[@runbarryrun2717]

@@dv2852 are the drones you saying "can be made cheaper" have extreme speed, can be mass produces under 10 years? If I remember well, the whole "taiwan invasion" began mostly by Xi, and the concept of widespread deployment of drones across various military fields developed mainly during the last decade. Don't think many can achieve a mass fleet of super-fast drones in such a quick time as the invasion supposed to happen before 2030. who knows what their intentions and these are speculations according to my knowledge.

[@dv2852]

​@@runbarryrun2717 Their current lineup is pretty decent and they are making a lot of them, WZ-7, GJ-11, TB-001 etc. Retrofitting ancient gear is not in line with PLA's doctrine and disrupts drone development. They are patrolling the strait and international waters with new unmanned toys. If you think bringing back 50y old jets is the way then so be it.

[@zand7128]

The unreality we live in really hit me when war graphics were interrupted by betterhelp logo parting the clouds

[@GMATveteran]

Couple things to add: 1. The same conversion process could be used on the PLAAF's now retired J-7 fighters as well. The J-7 is far faster & has nearly double the payload of the J-6. 2. These UCAVs wouldn't just be "bait", they could easily conduct UCAV kamikaze attacks vs Taiwan's SAM launchers, munitions depots, & AD sensors, thus forcing the latter into a "use or lose" situation. 3. The 2nd wave & 3rd waves of follow on attacks wouldn't necessarily be manned aircraft either. They could be more advanced UCAVs such as GJ-11, SRBMs & LACMs such as DF-11, DF-15, & CJ-10, as well as long-rage MLRS such as PCL-191. 4. The manned assets will likely be consigned to mop up work & continued suppression.

[@jaysnehpandey7089]

I had this idea for a long time, shocking to see it implemented

[@danielchua1713]

Great! Reduce, Reuse & Recycle!

[@ComedyKraze1]

At this point in history we're just watching the world prepare for war just to allow more damage on our side. We need to nip this in the bud.

[@Matthias-fk5md]

Na dann mal los. Aber macht es alleine und haltet Europa da raus. Das Imperium wird noch in diesem Jahrhundert untergehen.

[@JB52520]

Attack first because someone is preparing to be stacked by us? Classic Western logic.

[@blo0mfilter868]

@@JB52520 youre the only one saying anything about attacking

[@ComedyKraze1]

@@blo0mfilter868 💯

[@hejay1245]

We can build brand new drones. We don't need to use these old jets. These supersonic jets can be converted into cruise missiles to attack aircraft carriers if they come.

[@dennish5150]

Invasion? A reunification war that has not been cease. Look it up on your history book.

[@dennish5150]

@@jameschalkwig787 Easy to control 👍

[@Loong_9999]

You overestimate them. Most of them don't study history and their values ​​are different from ours.

[@surprisesnickers4411]

No, I didn't read that, my god, the most controlled people in the world are almost in dispute with North Korea, talking about Americans being controlled??? that's what it means to live in a fantasy bubble, just one word for you CCP

[@dennish5150]

@@Loong_9999 yeah, that is why they so easy to be manipulated. Few media outlets yep some BS and no one can call them out.

[@VirgoTw_1990]

本來就是入侵不然呢？ 1949就獨立建國入侵1911建立的國家

[@icannotbeyourking382]

The quality of the video material makes me wonder about the main source of funding for the video and the position of the financial backers behind it. Better Help’s part of the sponsorship must be a drop in the bucket.

[@Cunat121]

Why are you sponsoring a scandal such as better help? I expect better from this channel…

[@balapadmanabhan5705]

People don't even watch the sponsors lmao 😂

[@Cunat121]

@@balapadmanabhan5705 ye but what about those who do

[@yun-z]

@@Cunat121 they would need therapy

[@Cunat121]

@@yun-z 😭 people that actually suffer through depression and anxiety need to be able to control their emotions imo. It’s not a big a deal, people let it get to them like it’s some illness

[@glennac]

@@Cunat121 ​​⁠​⁠ So, “Snap Out Of It!” Unfortunately, that’s not the way mental illness works. For 10+ years now I’ve suffered from ‘floating anxiety’ unprompted by any outside stimulus and borderline manic/depression. I’m not homeless, I’m not an unemployed deadbeat. I work full time in a cancer research hospital (pharmacy)(meaning this can affect anyone). But I’ll tell you, there are days when I can’t function and the Migraines are crippling. “Just Snap Out Of It!” is not an option. A little understanding can go a long way. Now as for BetterHelp? It’s not a service I have used. But I’ve read about the recent scandal and take no side either way since I don’t know the facts.

[@strategicfooyouagencyfirst8197]

j6无人机确实是个好主意。报废还要花钱，直接当无人机反而性能卓越。

[@郑力-b4l]

说实话有点脱裤子放屁没必要了， 就国内这个产能无人机要多少有多少，没必要去改装那些老家伙。

[@jeddvillaspin3379]

The Chinese played too much Ace combat 7. The cost of installing unmanned devices exceeds the cost of the old aircraft.

[@AdamCook-d1x]

that's literally ace combat 7

[@zondervonstrek]

Russia has done the same thing in Ukraine to great effect. using both older planes and armored ground vehicles.

[@AT-AT26]

Ukraine too.

[@xodus_sys]

Next they will convert old tanks...

[@Kamome163]

I think that will be a tad more complicated than airplanes, especially due to the larger amounts of computational power needed for IFF or just for collision avoidance, but I think it might be possible to see autonomous land platforms used for logistical purposes soon

[@beethovenvan2041]

59:me？ again？

[@pauliewalnuts240]

8 countries are still using j6's in their airforce. Everyone is saying this is cost effective, but I disagree. These aircraft could be sold for much more than the cost of building a dedicated drone to fill a similar role. It seems wasteful to willingly sacrifice so many aircraft on a kamikaze mission. While old, they're still fairly capable aslong as they are truly airworthy.

[@fattyMcGee97]

I thought they had just scrapped most of their old fighters instead of keeping them around in storage

[@JoeyBlogs007]

All Taiwan needs to do is manufacture thousands of smaller faster kamikazi drones to counter these drones. They could even be a quarter scale of a J6 drone.

[@totzinfo]

China has a hundreds of anti stealth objects radar focusing in front of Taiwan, and supported by thousands of nuclear capable ICBMs with 10 warheads each

[@Yang02517]

They don't have capable industry, those drones need jet engines to catch up.

[@totzinfo]

@@Yang02517 ano pala sa tingin mo sa old soviet jets na ginawang drones walang makina? it's a twin engine fighter jet converted with 5G electronics technology (U.S. F16, F14, F22 are only a 3G electronics) into drones or pilot less aircraft and fly about 1,400 to 1,600 kph or Mach 1.5 and China has a recent 400 of it and can build 10,000 more and capable to carry 12 nuclear bombs each and its 4th Chinese largest Air Forces bases and facilities is right at the front of Taiwan about 400 kilometers away

[@lzwdavid]

@@Yang02517they can import drones from Shenzhen China…

[@thenasiudk1337]

Fun fact: US actually have a project to convert old F-16 into an UCAV, this is not an ordinary UCAV however, it's controlled by AI

[@rockinroland0]

Your map showing Kinmen didn’t include small kinmen island (小金門） Taiwan actually controls that too

[@eddiev1548]

What an EMP weapon work🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sp1nks248]

Video on Taiwan's response to this threat?

[@rickyspanish4792]

Can you stop with the Better Help sponsoring? It's a scammy practice targeting people who already have enough problems..

[@StevenXu321]

He was wrong,Taiwan is a province of China,so it can't be called "invade"

[@Akram_El-Masry]

simply because the capabilities of these jets are so low and outdated when compared to the average jet today but are actually very high if compared to the average attack drone today so turning them into attack drones is some sort of recycling them into heavy duty attack drones - without having the risk of losing a pilot - having heavier and stronger striker drone - reducing the cost of building a drone - eliminating the need of decommissioning these jets for good

[@acmelka]

Well the US has a huge boneyard too - how about A10 drones

[@totzinfo]

A10 drones can be easily track by China's anti stealth radar 5,000 kilometers away from Chinese mainland

[@xdSloshy]

How will u fly thousands of old drones over 10,000km from USA to Taiwan ? Use a bit of common sense.

[@acmelka]

@@xdSloshy on a ship

[@xdSloshy]

@@acmelka what ship can carry 10,000 jets?

[@devinthierault]

​@@xdSloshyDisassembled lol

[@AnanananChin]

Don’t understand why ppl saying this is a good idea. These jets stands no chance to whatever mission against modern anti air weapons. If you want to use them for anything, you will have to upgrade them and putting 21 century tech into 50s plane would be an engineering nightmare.

[@Team.Melli.Report]

Shahed drones are exponentially cheaper, have a much much longer range and lower radar profile. Theres a reason why engineeres design a system from the ground up for a specific purpose.

[@alexejvornoskov6580]

Having a larger radar profile is actually the benefit here - they will be targeted and Anti-Air missiles would have to be shot at them = SAM locations would be found out and targated. And you cannot simply ignore them, as they they can have more armament on them then conventional drones. Their goal isnt to be a high tech drone - they are flying bombs that would deplete enemies AA ammunition. And by them being supersonic, you would have to use exensive missiles instead of anti-air guns that would be enough for slower, lower flying drones.

[@saltMagic]

These are already paid for... can hit 45k feet ...can hit Mach, and can maneuver better then some modern jets. If the A.I piloting these things is halfway decent then it's dangerous as hell. What if it isn't A.I, but actual pilots flying them from a safe location, which is how I would do it. Imagine just 50 of these things all equipped with 2, 1000 pound glide bombs released at 35k feet going at or near mach one....only the most expensive sams could even get the range to hit them. Shaheds are a one way slow flying moped with a small dumb bomb taped to the front.

[@BobrMorf]

Это внутренние проблемы Китая, не стоит другим странам в это вмешиваться

[@YT-mn4eq]

Can't radar differentiate between different aircraft? This plane is from the 50s, but Taiwan's air defense isn't. It's not gonna fool anyone....

[@Kamome163]

That’s a good point. I think the main issue is that we are talking about hundreds of aircrafts at once. Even if Taiwan’s radar systems are able to discriminate between those aircraft’s and the higher value ones, the sheer number of these drones alone can saturate Taiwan’s defenses

[@watershed8685]

If they can what then? They don’t shoot them? You think PLA isn’t gonna arm those old planes?

[@CaptainROC-hs2yn]

Taiwan is equipped with PAVE PAWS radar from US that can detect ICBM from a few thousand miles within China. China is aware of that hence this StarCraft ZERG dog wave tactic to overwhelm Taiwanese defense.

[@oussama123654789]

@@Kamome163 plus the missiles launched at the same time it will be a massacre blitzkrieg

[@chillxxx241]

Yes, the radar and weapons systems available will be a able to discriminate between the targets.

[@incelvillain1253]

According to A.I overview Google: "As of June 2024, China has produced around 250 J-20 fighter jets, with over 200 currently in active service. In 2022, China's estimated production rate was 40-50 airframes per year, and in 2023, it was estimated to be 100-120 airframes per year." So China would use a lot more than old aircrafts.

[@nirvana3921]

The cost of an unmanned modification of the J-6 fighter may exceed that of a jet drone. It's not a good deal. However, if a large number of unmanned J-6s are used to consume Taiwan's air defense firepower, it is a good choice. Once the Taiwanese air defense radar is turned on. Then it will immediately be locked by the anti-radiation missiles of the PLA.

[@lone._.wolf.]

Taiwanese was like " ohh ok "

[@Sebastian-gf2fk]

Imagine destroy one of the biggest success stories in history for a tiny island.

[@lastword8783]

I don't think you have a good understanding of the situation.

[@Sebastian-gf2fk]

@@lastword8783 enlighten me

[@DejaVuEXP]

China defines success differently.

[@Sebastian-gf2fk]

@@DejaVuEXP you think war is the answer of China?

[@taco2422]

one of the best 3d visuals out there ,, its scary to think how effective these tactics are to quickly drain out the taiwanese anti air and air force

[@stephenbachman132]

Very smart.

[@BlueSlothYT]

Crazy how we know exactly where there jets are 😂

[@Nayo_The_Mayo]

No crap satellites exist

[@universalcompilations1662]

When you use the word "invade", I know your perspective and standpoint. One thing you gotta know is that even the Gov of the U.S officially claim and recognize the" One China Policy", and UN don't recognize Taiwan as an independent country but part of China. So how come you use "invade" de describe this military action?

[@Ghettofinger]

Where do you get this information? I watch A LOT of geopolitical content and, from what I have seen, you are the only person to ever mention this. I am not asking about your sources, I see them in the description and I have read what you provided (I highly respect a person that uploads this kind of content that provides their sources by the way). I mean your research process. With this kind of topic, there is so much information to sift through and a lot of people regurgitating the same information from the same sources, I am just curious as to how you navigate that.

[@donaldlarson479]

因为中国的相关军事节目已经介绍了这个想法。这个想法本身已经在中国军迷里面很有影响力了

[@DY-fy2jh]

I bet all of the channels you watched are non-Chinese. They don’t have a clue of what’s going on in China.

[@cainiaowu]

from Suntzu, The Art of War.

[@EthanX1ao]

This is what happens when you only eat English info sources but ignore any Chinese text when studying Chinese geopolitics

[@saisirvous7363]

@@cainiaowu😂😂😂

[@maxlin3442]

It's not that easy. They don’t even have Fly By Wire. It will be stupidly expensive to modify these drones to do any damage. It's better off to build cruise missiles cheaper

[@K1ngKenForevs]

bro salute to the quality of this video bro the effort to create such video like this is unimaginable. you are doing a great job

[@DTHRocket]

Thank you for saying "manned/unmanned" instead of "crewed" which sounds like "crude." I refuse to use the newspeak.

[@johnparnell9488]

Right?!? They tell you to use the new word, and you're expected to obey immediately. And some do!

[@KanyeKetchup]

Get over it😂

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

"manned/womanned"

[@EthanX1ao]

That's sex discrimination! Why "manned/unmanned" instead of "womanned/unwomanned"

[@matchc0635]

Chat imagine Ace Combat 7, but in real and epic

[@coastsouljah]

How do we roll this information out across the major platforms with high exposure as quick as possible?

[@StevenXu321]

Taiwan is a province of China,so it can't be called "invade"

[@VirgoTw_1990]

​@@StevenXu321 赤色中國入侵中華民國還不叫侵略不然叫什麼？

[@gilberttello08]

Kamome pls upload new vidoes. Your channel and contents are very enlightening.

[@skino-bx4nf]

It's funny when you call civil war "invasion"

[@DonaldShifflett-pl2bg]

Nothing Civil about War

[@fabioo9459]

1000 drones 300 jetfigther 40.000 misiles 500 boat drones imagine the dificulty to figth this war for Taiwan

[@ChiefDiplomat1]

I hope that Taiwanese Government receives ECM technology to counter these drones.

[@mab7727]

I literally argued something like this years ago on the internet and ppl made fun of me. I still don't know why they thought it was stupid.

[@servalgoat5860]

It already got confirmed on chinese Internet for more than a decade. To be honest, the existence of remote-controlled MiGs is outdated information. It is the arrogance and ignorance of Westerners towards China that has led to all of this.

[@a.m.1750]

Even with 300 Mig15 drones, the US has more than four times the number of combat aircraft than China.

Very clever idea by China.These fighter jets are very cost effective if they are used as unmanned drones.

[@alvydasjokubauskas2587]

looks good on paper, but Taiwan can also have similar ideas now. Either you have air superioritity or you sink very fast.

[@zsarimaxim692]

It’s useful mainly for countries with a massive quantities of retired old jets, or they’ll just get overwhelmed.

[@kristijangrgic9841]

Well how manny old jet planet does Taiwan have ?

[@AmirShafeek]

How many old jets does Taiwan have and where are the facility located what are the Taiwanese would make these upgrades cuz apparently as long as I have an idea I can implement it

[@cainiaowu]

Then it is a simple competion for industrial capacity, which China has the most in the world.

[@danielch6662]

Well, Taiwan don't have a thousand old jets lying around they can turn into drones. How are they going to copy the idea?

[@AbdulAlhazred-l2l]

It's called UNIFICATION.

[@guanjah8186]

Hat Deutschland auch mit Europa versucht. Ging nicht so gut aus. Zweimal..... einmal haben wir noch gut..

[@SolomonSamson747]

I see J-5s outside the “conversion building.” Not J-6s.

[@user-ri2vp7qt7f]

그러니까 구형기라도 버리지 말고 무인화해거 써야해.

[@libshastra]

Cheap Anti Air can make drone tactics ineffective quite rapidly. Pantsir and Russians are pretty good at these things.

[@TuanTran-h5f]

Did you not watch the video or you didn't comprehend the video?

[@User-jr7vf]

@@TuanTran-h5f The video says that China would employ a drone swarm to overwhelm the Taiwanese anti air defenses, right?

[@TuanTran-h5f]

@@User-jr7vf yes, and also employ anti radiation missiles.

[@khanaliqasim1757]

Taiwan does not have Pantsir, Russia will not sell it to them because they are an ally of China

[@danielch6662]

The J-6 fly at mach 1.3 with a 60,000 feet service ceiling. How would the Pantsir get them, and Taiwan don't have any Pantsirs, or anyway to get them. If they tried to get any, the US will get really pissed.

[@sheltonsusau]

Awesome Video, interesting facts, and possibilities, outcomes , and probabilities. Earned yourself a New Sub. Keep it up 👏

[@马赛-g1l]

分析的很到位

[@Goen-pp4vi]

china has some military tech that you don't even aware they exist

[@loadingnewads]

I want to call this super power syndrome. when one country becomes a regional/global super power, its military power starts to have apart that grows silently without anyone noticing it

[@senzosanjuro1769]

Just because they have no experience of the war 👍

[@vividfiber6668]

A j6 drone is going to preform worse than a j6 with a skilled pilot. And the j6 is incredibly outdated (north korea uses them still) the simplicity of these jets will make them incredibly easy to defend against.

[@hubaakyu6042]

gooo video. But I think converting old planes to drones cost a lot and performance is lower than new built drones

[@dennis9401]

3 Gorges Dam... 2 Gorges Dam.. 1 Gorges Dam. 0 Gorges Dam

[@ajaykumarsingh702]

Won't affect the Chinese military much. Their bases are all around the mainland.

[@solless2504]

Ukraine hit a shaheed factory deep in russia with a ultralight airplane converted into a drone. Wild stuff

[@kochchristof1]

Dumb vid made by someone who doesn't understand how air defense radars operate. I'd say "modern" AD Radars, but that wouldn't even be true. AD systems have been able to type classify targets since WW2. These old fighters have vastly different returns than modern PLAA fighters. Taiwanese AD would just let them run out of fuel. Another problem is maintenance. Aircraft need to be flown to be sure they're even airworthy enough to make it across the straight. These have been sitting on the ground for 4 + decades. There are thousands of components like fuel tank seals and electronics that degrade. Id' bet %60 wouldn't even make it halfway. Its not the same as getting 1 or 2 airworthy for target practice. Even if you'd make them into cruise missiles they'd have a hard time targeting anything in a high EW environment with unreliable GPS at best and the ones that get close can just be handled by cheap AAA.

[@05April]

The Taiwan issue is China's internal affair. Overseas media should stop hyping it up and pay less attention to it. It has nothing to do with you

[@LibertyEater]

China produced 4500 J-6 fighter, and with less thant $10000 of modificication cost each plane, they can be turned into 4500 cruise missile, imaging 4500 tomahawk

[@traindriverwang9929]

Taiwan is one province of China

[@guanjah8186]

So wie Europa Deutschland und Deutschland Europa ist.

[@aymonfoxc1442]

A very insightful and well-crafted video.