Kampfringen

[@woozer4445]

Song is anonymous:Carmina Burana -Bacche Bene Venies

[@gibrannicholau3447]

Invented in the middle ages, but I think it's still useful today.

[@greatneos]

living in middle ages is more brutal than modern times.

[@krystofcisar469]

@@greatneos taxes are way more brutal these days.

[@greatneos]

@@krystofcisar469 Most luxuries can only be afford by nobles in middle ages, If you were not one of majority in most western countries prepare for the worst discrimination. nowadays people who are born poor can live like a king, you can achieve it by hard work, smart work or if you got lucky in lottery. back then if you are born as a peasant then you die as a peasant.

[@MEMAG]

Thanks! I actually don't know what the song is called. It was on an unmarked CD that my computer has no information on that was given to me by someone I am no longer in contact with!

[@doomsday8739]

MEMAG that's an interesting story.

[@HamsterPants522]

Martial arts are founded on biomechanics. An ancient chinese man's body is going to function the same way as an ancient greek man's body. Wrestling is relatively universal, across the board.

[@doomsday8739]

Skeletoaster exactly.

[@doomsday8739]

Fighting breaks down into three questions: what external object can I hit someone with, what parts of my body can I hit them with, and how can I use their own body against them?

[@dayman161172]

Basically yes. But its far more deep

[@boguslav9502]

Yes and absolutely no. Ancient greeks, europeans, chinese, all 1) looked 2) ate 3) lived 4) have and had different physiologies, all of these are different and influence the body, its structure and thus martial arts. Wrestling as such differs a whole lot. As do all martial arts.

[@HamsterPants522]

@@boguslav9502 you are replying to a 7 year old comment.

[@tommydude1985]

So beautiful.... So soul moving, i weep tears of joy as i type

[@haffoc]

Excellent work, guys. Very well done, as always.

[@deadextra]

Great to be getting more from you! Is there any chance of having the techniques explained a bit more and discussion about why you've interpreted things the way you have? Thanks.

[@MEMAG]

Thanks! I'd be happy to address your questions on specific techniques.

[@SAsgarters]

Awesome. :) I think I used at least half of these techniques in schoolyard scraps back in the 80's. :D

[@phrytsak1]

Great vid, fantastic song!

[@ME-hm7zm]

Awesome, I'd been hoping to see some Wallerstein counter-strike techniques in action. The local group I started had it's first syllabus based around those.

[@Beezhunter]

Great stuff guys!!! Nice to get more stuff from you, keep the vids coming.

[@StuartMcDermid]

Excellent work as always chaps. Well done.

[@sunyang5285]

the first picture looks like the two opponents making obscene gestures at each other

[@gingercore69]

What are names of some manuals i could check? I would like to practice this, but there is no instructor arround, i do practice other arts with instructors so, im not going blind into it

[@adamding3873]

So cool. Just wonder: there are eye poking, headbutting, groin attacking, is there any finger/thumb twisting, or even biting? I think these are also very effective, though forbidden in most modern MMA rules.

[@boguslav9502]

Too hard to pull off, too little payoff. There is a goin attack but as far as getting hold of fingers. Remember this is war. In life or death adrenaline is sky high. People literally do not feel lethal wounds, they do not drop from lethal wounds, they also dont feel minor or severe wounds. People can lose limbs and be totally unaware of it. Broken fingers, compared to the shock of taking a shot to the groin which has a huge amount of nerve endings that cannot be surpressed, are nothing. The person simply wont notice it and he still has four more fingers.

[@MAGNUS8]

Esse vídeo foi top hein, você é fera

[@dancingbear76]

Where is this from? I love that it shouldn't be forgotten

[@DRIinDorchester]

I was WAITING for that ending ~ PERFEKT!

[@ThaerisHLP]

Fantastic work, chaps! This stuff is just as good today as it was 500 years ago. I'm curious, where are you based in? I'd love to join an ARMA group, but there's no one in my area, or otherwise within my economical radius of action.

[@drewbo2901]

You could start your own

[@michaelmorris2243]

These are Great ! Keep up the good work. 👍🌞😺🙋‍♂️🙂

[@Moskito-bx8cw]

Gibt es auch so etwas wie ein Schlag abtauschen wo man blockt und schlägt dritt ??

[@batulefou]

if kampfringen is so legit, why its not in MMA? lol, joking aside, kampfringen looks much more useful than many popular martial arts such as wing chun or other traditional styles.

[@keyboardwarrior9258]

Many wrestling moves are used in the UFC.

[@PanfilodeZamacona]

Because it is HISTORICAL wrestling. Nobody say, that it is effective in modern MMA. If you see grafics for japanes fightings 19-th centery, you can find them funny... for modern MMA. But it is Judo now. It is not funny and uses in MMA. Box 18-th centery is VERY funny for modern MMA. But modern box uses in MMA. Historical euripean martial wrestling didn't get development for different reasons.

[@ultrasquid7901]

Many techniques shown here are used in mma. Single leg, double leg takedown, some throws. Follow ups to Mount or knee on belly.Dont forget most ufc Fighters for example are also high level grapplers and can anticipate. Good video though

[@GaelicMongrel2023]

Short answer? Not enough people practice it nowadays.

[@stultus2172]

Whats the song?

[@mattmc9812]

I wish you guys did some vs match with Japanese Jujitsu clubs. This is so similar

[@txmetalhead82xk]

Fascinating

[@MEMAG]

Thanks, we are in Salisbury MD and Pennsauken NJ. If you do a search for "HEMA practice partner finder" in google you may be able to find a group.

[@AbuOmar]

You were good. You fought well.

[@fillyal85]

+AbuOmar Kaiser...WAVE

[@AbuOmar]

Well played.

[@cooks2006]

Love this.. Too bad instruction is so localized.

[@DavidTimothyLovegod]

Which sources please?

[@ogionite]

I find it interesting to se how similar many of the techniques are to chinese martial arts, such as kung fu (shaolin). ame body movement patterns and fast paced "improvised" counters and counter-counters. What is your take on this? How much is actually influenced by "modern" martial arts and how much is actually reenactment?

[@InSanic13]

I know this is an extremely late response, but Historical European Martial Arts (like Ringen) are taken purely from fighting treatises written during the times that the arts were in use.

[@manylittlefish693]

That music in the background... xD

[@dayman161172]

I would say just do normal Ringen as addon that will help more learning it

[@mutsuzawa]

Very good!

[@tollutollu]

This is awesome! Been a while since you've uploaded anything. What's the name of the track?

[@墨翟-i6u]

Do people learn this now

[@MartaRzehorz]

0:32 This is my favorite technique!

[@rafiyasmika7055]

0:32

[@zaim1985]

Awesome

[@NESRockman1987]

I see below there is comment which noticed the similar about Japanese ju jitsu. I total agree with it (I did ju-jitsu) Kampfringen = free style wrestling + japane ju-jitsu (or akido, hapkido) techniques I'm not a warrior, but I thing this is one of the best self deafens moves like krav maga, defendo ect.

[@vicentenunez3524]

german bartitsu?

[@MEMAG]

Apparently according to KZbin it's called "Bacche bene venies"

[@Ulf_Ulfurson]

Absolut Top

[@maylon_renato]

Where can i find this instructions medieval image???

[@falsefight]

+Maylon Gonçalves This is from the Codex Wallerstein, which you can get a translation of in print by Grzegorz Zabinski. Its a bit pricey, but totally worth it.

[@Jailbreak49]

Some of these images are also from Talhoffer, which you can find in fairly complete PDF on Google.

[@alexflake8826]

song?

[@meresanjMaat]

Nice video! :B

[@MulishaKnights]

how long did it take you both to learn this?

[@MulishaKnights]

You and Betsy?

[@CoffeeSnep]

The section on the Farmer's Clinch is more or less A German's Guide To Sexual Assault.

[@許家豪-u4m]

1:00 1:10 1:15 1:25 1:30 1:42 1:46 1:53 1:58

[@johno5605]

dont know if wrestling or a soft grappling art or both

[@許家豪-u4m]

2:07 2:10 2:13 4:02 4:07

[@許家豪-u4m]

0:21 0:25 0:32 0:36 0:42 0:44 0:47 0:50

[@michaelvendick2785]

@42 seconds, probably the only technique that would actually work against an unwilling, resisting opponent. You see it in MMA all the time

[@amorfati4559]

The "only" technique? You don't know what you're talking about. You know there are actual ringen matches in HEMA, right? You also realize these treatises were written by men who had grappling experience in battles or duels, right? If these didn't work, they wouldn't have lived to write them down.

[@michaelvendick2785]

@@amorfati4559 mixed martial arts is the litmus test for today's modern combat. Every branch of the military has scrapped their antiquated hand to hand combat systems in favor of an MMA based approach, why? BECAUSE IT FUCKING WORKS!!! I do know what fuck I'm talking about. If those moves were effective in today's sport combat arena, then you see them in MMA fights. Even grappling competions dont utilize those old ass moves. The science of fighting has moved so far beyond those ancient ringen techniques. Go to Abu Dabi and try that shit and see what happens. You gonna get heel hooked or choked the fuck out. They might work against some untrained goober but you try that crap against someone trained in the modern science of fighting and you gonna get your ass handed to you.

[@amorfati4559]

@@michaelvendick2785 You see a lot of these techniques, guy. There's only so many efficient throws, takedowns, counters, etc. you can really do. That is why most folks wrestling styles, judo, or whatever all look the same. This is just another presentation of the same thing you see in any grappling or wrestling art.

[@MrOresko]

@@amorfati4559 I am a BJJ player, and lot of the techniques here are low percentage, non effective. Some of them great tough.

[@SeanWinters]

Y'all are seriously just going to pretend this isn't Judo?

[@mrmoth26]

It's older than judo

[@Duenderelojero]

Name of the song? please....