Kang FEARED Doctor Doom From The START! THERE'S ACTUAL PROOF!

[@frankmurph32]

I love how when you use material from other channels you give props. There’s so many channels that clearly use content from others and try to pass it as their own. You’re a real one for that.

[@Itssheed]

Ima keep sayin it.... Re-Hire JONATHAN MAJORS as KANG the CONQUEROR!!!

[@edgardopereles9966]

The robot exclusion on the TVA sounds more for Ultron. Because Ultron in the MCU is creation of Tony and Bruce. The idea can work.

[@Alex365x]

As for him possibly being afraid of mutants, he definitely fears Apocalypse (the first mutant). No mutants = no Apocalypse.

[@themarveldctheorist3261]

sending those daily positive vibes from Houston everyone!

[@elisandroku]

that gatekeeper keeps out not only doom bots but also synthezoids (vision, ultron, etc), sentinels (also versions like nimrod) and synthetic beings (eternals)

[@TheQuincyEdwards]

They need to bring Jonathan Majors back to end his character of Kang at least.

[@Itssheed]

Bring him back, ABSOLUTELY.... But he doesn't need to ended

[@Denza.]

Now the REAL issue is WILL the MCU address This???? Which EVEN if its just a Couple Scene I WANT some sort of connective tissue that explains Dr.Droom and Kang or all the KANGs relationship one way or another . I dont want to just sweep it under the run with NO explaination. Its the MCUs greatest asset .... Continuity & Connective Story Telling that allows EVERYTHING in the MCU to fit TOGETHER some way and some how. Just having Dr Doom become the most powerful being wih no explanation would REALY cheapen this Saga. It would make the Connective StoryTelling of this Arc Like Lokis Story POINTLESS. ALL OF THE STORYTELLING POINTLESS ! The Void, Multiple Universes, the Xmen post Credit scene from The Marvels... ALL POINTLESS if they cant atleast have a scene of DrDoom taking the powers from Kang Or atleast taking everything away from what Kang once had which helps continue the same continuity I might actually become less involved in the MCU if they cant spend 5mins and explain why Kang isnt the Big Bad anymore. It would Cheapen EVERYTHING and the MCU has to atleast point this out For the next Decade we will think (Or atleast Myself) every Marvel Saga wont have to be Followed like a Story (which means less involvement / Interest from the Audience) b/c Every bad decision can just be changed/Ret-Con by the Next MCU Project which weakensthe continuity of the Overall Product and is Bad for Business.

[@Quisee]

We just made very similar comments. I agree. You can't act like Kang is just solved after explaining how he works. It just would totally take me out the emergence of the whole mcu

[@timothymichael7552]

If your theory about doom and Ironman are variants in the 616, it gives them an in universe explanation for the recast of Ironman after the soft reboot

[@lavryadam4774]

That's a great point!

[@thetjdman]

This is such a stretch. We all know why they dropped Kang. Trying to back peddle and act like this was Marvel's plan all along.

[@raymondsutton6348]

No, he’s just taking the new Doctor Doom story we’re getting and plugging it into what already exists.

[@michaelmercury1297]

Yeah it wasn't their plan all along but this is good and would work.

[@epochrisy]

pretty neat theory when you consider what Sylvie says about Chaos. If Loki from the show is the one CHAOTIC creation from the universe that could actually stop Kang, then that would explain why it's the sacred timeline.

[@Gabriel-no6wv]

Imagine if that whole time, the solution to actually stop the Kang Variants, it was actually introduce Dr. Doom variants to balance the equation....

[@antionephoenix]

You meant Captain America placed doubt in him as that screenshot suggests. Doom kept destroying Cap and the Beyonder who still had some power kept bringing him back to life. This threw Doom off. If you are talking about Secret Wars 2 then my guy, use those pics when you said Reed made him doubt himself.. Either way, it's a great video I just had to correct you there. Lol

[@lokilover1315]

I love this. everything makes sense when you add all of this up together. This would explain Loki intrudcing his sowrd, then at the last moment, he tossed it away instead of using it. Because Kang was even still lying to him.

[@Overbound]

I hope to god Tony isn't Doom variant. Because We'll NEVER hear the end of it. This is a very informative video tho.

[@mr.m2695]

Tbh it wouldn’t make sense to make him a variant. If he wasn’t iron man it would. But since he was it make sense that doom would be his antihero version. Same drive. Only difference is one doesn’t give a fuck and does what he wants. The other wanted true peace and not control. So OG Doom makes sense. That being said they need to change the fantastic casting if rdj is og doom. Because this casting doesn’t fit the original fantastic variants. Bring John back. Then we solid.

[@richardhutnik]

Tony is a Doom variant.

[@brendandegnan4983]

Tony gives a weird reaction when he was talking in the elevator with his father during endgame. I think he realized the timeline of his birth did not add up and that he was in fact not the son of howard stark. That scene was never resolved from what I could see, and that would be awesome to find out Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony was really an adopted doom variant.

[@davidcolon3995]

So Kang is The Architect from The Matrix? If so, which incarnation of the MCU are we watching?

[@bcconvoy9]

Dr Doom is a variant of Kang

[@lukeydukey20]

I actually hope they bring Jonathan Majors back for secret wars.

[@frankwilkie3354]

Majors deserves to finish the Kang story

[@lukeydukey20]

@ he messed up, but he’s a great actor. I am believer in second chances.

[@elroyhoyabembe4828]

@@lukeydukey20how did he mess up? By running away from a woman attacking him? 😭

[@ChillQuest992]

Bruh 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@cdogg46]

if not involve him in the mutant saga afterwards

[@x9thousand8]

THEORY CRAFTING W! this video will blow up in 2026

[@DeezMatterz]

Love the final attendance of Kang (HWR) Sneaky and Deceptive as always is, moreso, in Loki... Completely and Absolutely, went about his Biz, from the getgo, All being Lies, to suit His selfserving Goals. Also, thanks for noting the Robot Being Connection to Doom as a Factor,as we naturally all realized, thereupon, hoped for, even from that onset

[@StaminaPetey]

Your theory about Tony being adopted would mean that, when Howard Stark said his wife was expecting in End Game, the story from that timeline was not of 616. Tony Stark in the MCU is Howard’s biological son.

[@DeezMatterz]

Okay Man... At the stipulation of 'My Version'... Knew im gon be blown away

[@DeezMatterz]

Man. Can you imagine? Wanda, or whatever alternative Mechanism, used to correct and return Doom, and then the Wanda Doom Version Plays Out... Epic

[@gazwilliams-nc7jp]

Its a good theory that Tony Stark was always Doctor Doom, but after your first theorised it, i started thinking, and i really dont think theyre going to Retcon the best part of the MCU, and make Tony Stark Victor all along, especially with all the hate Marvel get now It makes way more sense for them to elaborate on that What If story, where Doom swaps bodies with Tony As its an actual story from another universe It also opens up the potential for them to swap back, so we get the RDJ Doom, but then in the future reveal the ACTUAL new Doom Actor, and potentially put Stark back into his own body, if RDJ wants to continue as a Varient of himself I even thought of a post credit scene for Fantastic 4 Where it flashes back to when Reed and Victor were college roommates, but its not Reed who went college with Doom in that alternate universe, but Tony Stark did instead It shows a guy we dont know and dont see the face of, walking to his room, and as he opens the door, a young Tony Stark is sat there and says "Oh hey Vic, just been going over these calculations of yours, and something seems off" Insinuating Doom is lying to Stark about what the machine theyre working on together actually does

[@ChillQuest992]

BRO CHRISTOPHER WALTZ WOULD BE A PERFECT DOOM

[@shadowkiller6637]

A bit too late for fancasts my friend

[@DecafHobgoblin5]

something i never understood is if the idea that variants that are in the wrong timelines or are doing things that aren't supposed to happen then it would cause incursions, so how come there isn't a ton of those happening all the time in 616 if that timeline wasn't actually supposed to happen that way because it was all schemed by he who remains at the end of time? that just feels like a big unanswered issue with the whole storytelling they have going on right now and needs to be addressed for it all to make sense to me but with the actor who plays kang being removed after all that stuff it seems they might just skip over it or leave it open to interpretation i guess

[@MrCmsch]

I still would like to see all the 2012 avengers playing a different villain haha imagine the current avengers break through to doom’s universe and they see the og avengers they have to fight

[@wheresupp_3365]

great job alot of info

[@RalphBloemendaal]

There are many brilliant points in there. I dispute that Doom has the full power of a Sorcerer Supreme, though he is a powerful Sorcerer.

[@thedarkknight7287]

I still have a problem with Robert Downey Jr playing Doctor Doom. Maybe it will get explained he is no Victor Von Doom, but it's hard to say given the different things we have seen with the MCU lately.

[@ScottSpenceNoneTheRicher]

Hawkeye slept with that Wanda-bot 😂

[@Builltru]

Bro. How can you do a video on why Kang is afraid of Doom and not bring up 2018 Doctor Doom run where Kang gets his throat slight???? Ruthless!

[@mister_ious]

Lied to literally everyone he interacted with. Only the Victor Timely variant seemed like a more honest type, but even he was intentionally neutered by his own variant to be a bullet point in his plan. And if he's willing to do that to himself he definitely has no issue doing that to any and everyone else. If he can't eliminate them from the timeline, just manipulate their path instead to bend his way.

[@Quisee]

I mean good video, but it wouldn't make sense that's it's a variant in the 616 that Kang put there. The only way this makes sense is if that variant was going to become the dr doom he's afraid of which would make he's dead now and you can't create another one. I think the only way this works, is if 616 doom was kidnapped at birth and raised to be Tony Starks and Doom family raised what should've been Tony Starks as Victor Von Doom. Being Tony isn't Victor, he never became doom but Doom became IronMan. The way they could try to flip it, is to simply create Doom in another universe (As RDJ) that was never kidnapped or adopted. That kid ends up becoming similar to our ironman. Instead of creating ultron, he creates doom bots. Instead of time traveling, he discovers the multi verse. So instead of trying to prevent earth from being attacked and creating security, he learns the multiverse is caving and once to save life as it's on course to be gone completely now that HWR is gone. That gives him pretty much the same goals as "Tony". Gives him an understandable motive and would be an easy way to explain him building his army to protect battle world. They have to figure out some way to explain our Ironman and Victor. Otherwise it's going to come off cheap. To say Kang is afraid they would HAVE to recast but really to make it make it sense would have to bring Jonathan back. Honestly at this point, this story really doesn't work unless at some point Kang is involved

[@narcosys6934]

That one photo of RDJ as Doom looks more like Luke Evans, who absolutely has the face and ability to play as Doom. He might have been better imo if they didn't need RDJ to save time MCU

[@MarthaWilson-w5r]

brand new Kang in the mcu in 2025 today now yes are no 😍😍😍😍

[@DeezMatterz]

Now this, I've gotta hear

[@mattwilburn9039]

I was thinking it could be multiverse avengers with mutants

[@tommyharvey8007]

What if....RDJ Doom is actually a DoomBot modeled to look like Tony Stark and the real Doom is somewhere else?

[@benjaminwhite3585]

Josh, this is your best theory video ever!!!!! If you're right, i'm gonna be royally pissed at you for spoiling Doomsday and Secret Wars!!!!!!

[@DeezMatterz]

Just hope they don't forcibly present him as sympathetic, for perceived CashGrab, given Thanos being Idolized as such. This must be done as True Fan Perpective Approach

[@virtualrealityfitness283]

Does anybody read comics Doom and Kang can’t kill each other they are related!

[@Janju76]

Stupid question, but how should Kang exist without Reed Richards existing. This makes no sense.

[@QISNOTAROBOT]

Great Video Josh

[@jm2621]

It should be more like the Spider-Man animated series and have doom take the beyonders power ‘so he thinks’ and they use the same device to take the power out of doom and then the game is over

[@mr.canadian155]

Hawkeye is Billy and Tommy's grandfather. In Age of Ultron, Clint got shot and Dr.Cho used the cradle to heal him. Ultron uses the cradle to create a new body for himself using vibranium and organic tissue, Clint Barton's DNA was is the cradle. The body becomes Vision. Wanda needed DNA to create Billy and Tommy. The DNA that Vision has came from Hawkeye. Hawkeye is the grandfather of Billy &Tommy.

[@3RR0R210]

I like this idea.

[@DeezMatterz]

Okay. Beautiful Man... Mind Gratefully Blown

[@Overbound]

Crosses Arms.... you've been hyping up this video HC... lets see what ya got!!! lolol :D Hope it blows up for ya Josh.

[@Kang980]

he even has his variants as a fail safe to explode worlds Kang hand it down to the t he definatley was afriad

[@SaBastian_DeKrabbe]

That's actually Dope AF. - But most importantly, can we agree that Capn America needs the SSS?

[@brendonohagan1946]

Yeah I am curious about him fighting big red without it

[@lavryadam4774]

But what would that say about the mutants as a whole though??

[@edkoberstein912]

That’s Awesome

[@DarthFernando57]

Why are tomatoes laying on the background floor?

[@TerrellAustin19941]

Great

[@RoyaltyGang313]

Marvel dropped the ball with Kang now all of sudden kang is the worse villain because of doctor doom 😂. I hope all goes well with this Dr doom saga because if it doesn't goodbye Marvel for true comic book fans

[@arthurcaldwell6822]

I couldn’t agree any more with this sad thing about it is the threw away the case 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ronself1979]

Great Long Video

[@lavryadam4774]

THIS IS INTOLERABLE!!!! How would the mighty Kang, master of time and space be "bothered" by some mama's boy from Lateveria??! Just kidding, but I think "afraid" is a big word. The matter and fact is, we don't know how exactly the multiversal war went down, or if it had been the only one! But Kang doing everything in the book and beyond not to have Dr Doom in existence says volumes on what might have been.

[@DonnieCongo]

Been a sub since the beginning. 1st comment though. STELLAR TAKE JOEH!!! I can definitely see this coming to pass. Fingers AND Toes Crossed. Ennnnjoy your weekend!✌🏿

[@1.idz24]

Retcon after retcon i see 😂

[@markanderson7236]

6:38

[@pueohoot543]

Perfect like an eggshell

[@MJC1891]

None of that happen. Dude allegedly beat his woman that’s what really happen

[@UltimateSpider1385]

Doctor Doom will reign supreme!!!

[@OctavianKaijage]

Kang and Doctor Doom

[@supergodzillaxvlogs3044]

Thanos💜is More Evil MCU Character To Me😱Hulk Will Have his Revenge😍& ReMatch With Thanos💛😁

[@garylazereyes1304]

Kangbang?

[@DeezMatterz]

Hell Yeah. Doom, was always wrongfully depicted, so would appreciate your 'Kang Enforcement' thereof remedying things... Yet further still Must comprehensively Cater the True and Correct iteration of Doom... That at this juncture, We are indisputably OWED

[@davefick5322]

Magneto could beat Kang and Dr. Doom.

[@MekBoooooi]

Tired of this doom n gloom shit it's so lame

[@Tay_NewNerd]

So did strange

[@chipsandip]

Dope

[@johnnywashington8270]

#MakeMajorsMarvelAgain

[@Jayydubss]

Kang saw that Doom was a white girl…

[@flygon117]

Cool theory but let’s just admit marvel didn’t know what they were doing 😅 they should have used the dr doom character from the start lol

[@QISNOTAROBOT]

It's called theory crafting. Plus, Marvel didn't have the rights to Doom from jump.

[@flygon117]

@@QISNOTAROBOT I know I know but still they shouldnt have not push out phase 4 until they had dr doom, like a little break from the infinity saga. Brain storm for the future of the mcu while acquiring the rights to those characters

[@Tay_NewNerd]

Doctor S wanted med tony dead so doom wouldn't exist

[@Tay_NewNerd]

The real doom is ms. Fantastic

[@HandlesAreStupid2024]

Revisionist MCU cope, but also 100% true.

[@fightclubify]

Be honest, this is pure fan-fic. Nowt wrong about theories and seeking out, but it is really misleading to be selling any of this as fact. C'mon, now.

[@Tay_NewNerd]

I think Tony was switched at birth 😅

[@timothymichael7552]

I think this proves Doom was the big bad all along. Kang was just a red herring. This means it’s likely RDJ was always planned to be doom, and was going to be kept under wraps as long as possible

[@x9thousand8]

KANG VS DOOM! Josh vs Ryan??

[@huntcringedown2721]

Wishful reaching my man

[@doyscherr]

Kang also fears Scott Lang's right hook!

[@chavez503]

He beat the living shit out of Scott tf you talking about 😂

[@ezghost1612]

Lol you might have just blew up marvel spot like you said doom bots so jr might be a bot

[@chavez503]

And we can trust what you say 😂😂 + all your clues are bs your story has nothing

[@The_Nerd_Table]

Nv4L

[@RushStriker9]

Made up.

[@DarthJoser]

Waaa

[@d0tbat]

I'm here first josh

[@cnmoore2006]

1st pls pin me

[@tommyharvey8007]

What if....RDJ Doom is actually a DoomBot modeled to look like Tony Stark and the real Doom is somewhere else?

[@MarthaWilson-w5r]

brand new Kang in the mcu in 2025 today now yes are no 😍😍😍😍😍