Karen Read & Doomsday Prophet Trial | Vinnie Politan Investigates

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@jebbiekanfer8843
@jebbiekanfer8843 5 ай бұрын
Almost every person who testified was driving under the influence.
@elizabethwilson9686
@elizabethwilson9686 5 ай бұрын
Everyone of them are also connected to Colin & Albert Jr through family, tenn friends, or close family friends. Only one thing would make them all cover up, the 2 boys, the kids, their friends were there & saw what happened, thry themselves did nothing to help so the young teens are afraid of being charged themselves because they were under age drinking at the time & were afraid to call the police or help John during the fight, they most likely watched the entire thing. I do not believe they set out to murder him, only fight, John was most likely defending himself well against whichever was throwing the punches & it's possible the other one hit him in the head to help break it up at the point. This is what the evidence seems to be showing so far. If you look at the shape of the wound to his head, it is circular & matches the shape of the weights in the basement in the photos of the basement of the workout equiptment.
@toughpuppyx
@toughpuppyx 5 ай бұрын
To protect and swerve
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk 5 ай бұрын
​@@elizabethwilson9686 I didn't know or hear all that.
@brightmoon7132
@brightmoon7132 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sooooo much CourtTV and Vinnie for posting VPI on youtube. Vinnie is my favorite legal analyst and host.
@carrow1057
@carrow1057 5 ай бұрын
He is. I hope he never fades.
@carrow1057
@carrow1057 5 ай бұрын
Vinnie, you have the best show by far. Most impactful, least sensationalist, best analysis. Mostly great guests.
@dmberube1970
@dmberube1970 5 ай бұрын
Weren't they ALL wasted? They ALL had been drinking all night long!! They were ALL drunk!!
@dennisdonoghue9202
@dennisdonoghue9202 5 ай бұрын
YES.. Sounds like a typical Friday night in any city/town USA..
@LawNerd23
@LawNerd23 5 ай бұрын
Not all.
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk 5 ай бұрын
Even the cops were all drunk and driving.
@susanwhalls6230
@susanwhalls6230 5 ай бұрын
Luckily they didn’t kill anyone
@janetjohnson7279
@janetjohnson7279 5 ай бұрын
Justice for Tylee, JJ, Tammy and Charles!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻😥😥🙏🏻🙏🏻
@sandibaker5298
@sandibaker5298 5 ай бұрын
So, why all of the weird coincidences? The google searches from inside the house? The scratches on his arm…
@SuchaSourPatch
@SuchaSourPatch 5 ай бұрын
Those scratches look like they were done from a large dog. I have a Great Dane, he jumped up on me one time and I got the same looking scratch on my chest from his long nails! AND I had on a shirt, he still gave me a wide open scratch!
@scorpjess84
@scorpjess84 5 ай бұрын
@SuchaSourPatch agree an coincidence owner of house got rid of his German shepherd of 7 yrs!?
@ali90211
@ali90211 5 ай бұрын
No dog DNA has been proven
@scorpjess84
@scorpjess84 5 ай бұрын
@ali90211 a lot of things aren't proven...using a non issued PD leaf blower in the snow is one of many issues and proven to be sus!
@SeriouslyIssues
@SeriouslyIssues 5 ай бұрын
@@SuchaSourPatch Same opinion... I have a Dane as well.
@LaurieDean-wy3xb
@LaurieDean-wy3xb 5 ай бұрын
Something in Karen's gut told her NOT to ride with Jen. Something in Karen's gut told her not to go inside that house. TWO people claim to have been specifically WATCHING out the door AND window for them to come inside. Why?? What was SUPPOSED to go down? Our gut doesn't lie, and I believe, just my opinion, that Karen's instincts changed something, thus why framing her seems to fall into the category of "the next best thing "
@JusticeJosie
@JusticeJosie 5 ай бұрын
She was trying to separate them from the getko! Dont forget KR came into the picture, she stopped gettin free sneackers from Jon! Im sure she started all gossip and cause for conflict between them! KR was the outsider, lived and homeowner somewhere else, a canton outsider, coming in vlind, not knowing all the dirt amongvthem, gossip and clearly did not pick up she was among bypocrit liars
@michaeljames3043
@michaeljames3043 5 ай бұрын
You either expose the lie a person tells, or the bs they try to sell. In this case these witnesses are guilty of both while proclaiming to be honest truthful people and friends of the 'murdered officer'. John O'Keefe. They even cringe while saying his name and that in itself speaks.
@Grace-el7yy
@Grace-el7yy 5 ай бұрын
They let her know she wasn't welcome so Karen had an issue about going in.
@KellyMorris-x6k
@KellyMorris-x6k 5 ай бұрын
I think Karen just wanted to go home. But Jen wouldn’t let it go. Jen is a psycho butt dialing?? My butt!!!!
@Bellaa1970
@Bellaa1970 5 ай бұрын
I'm thinking she wished that she would have went into the house. Probably none of it would have happened. But will never know
@Yarnover_PullThrough
@Yarnover_PullThrough 5 ай бұрын
Vinnie needs to be a model on the cover of GQ. ❤
@SuchaSourPatch
@SuchaSourPatch 5 ай бұрын
I would love to know where the teenagers went that night and why they're lying about it!
@PixelPundit42
@PixelPundit42 5 ай бұрын
I think they either helped the plan, execution and at the very least the cover up. All of those kids are so clearly lying. Prior did him no favors putting them on the stand.
@mariaskinnider115
@mariaskinnider115 5 ай бұрын
Because their parents told them too. These families are so enmeshed they don’t know how to have a thought of their own. Without Big Brian telling them it’s OK to maybe choose a pizza !! But it’s gotta come from Chris shop.
@melodiecason2799
@melodiecason2799 5 ай бұрын
Well we know they went to the high school.
@josephkain6213
@josephkain6213 5 ай бұрын
Life360
@sierraechopnw4228
@sierraechopnw4228 5 ай бұрын
Today was explosive and eye opening. The feds have more than the prosecution is aware and today showed this. Jackson was spectacular!!!
@susanwhalls6230
@susanwhalls6230 5 ай бұрын
Are you being sarcastic?
@russianaloha4576
@russianaloha4576 5 ай бұрын
That's what I don't understand, how is this trial even happening with a Federal Investigation going on??? I hope the FBI solves this & interrupts the trial
@susanwhalls6230
@susanwhalls6230 5 ай бұрын
@@russianaloha4576solves what?
@sierraechopnw4228
@sierraechopnw4228 5 ай бұрын
@@susanwhalls6230 nope
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 5 ай бұрын
@@susanwhalls6230The homicide of John Okeefe. You know; the victim that this trial is about…. The audacity of some of you
@freestyleval0886
@freestyleval0886 5 ай бұрын
I can't believe the video got caught off. Right, when thing's we're getting on point and juicy.
@06mrselfdestruct
@06mrselfdestruct 5 ай бұрын
John’s arm was mauled by a Dog, a K9 expert already said as much, to say John’s arm was shredded by a broken cocktail glass is laughable
@KellyMorris-x6k
@KellyMorris-x6k 5 ай бұрын
I agree. I’ve worked in the ER at children’s hospital for 18 years I e seen what a dog can do. It’s something you never forget
@LawNerd23
@LawNerd23 5 ай бұрын
To imply that her car killed him would be laughable if this wasn't a murder trial with the WRONG defendant.
@j9wheels801
@j9wheels801 5 ай бұрын
❓❓Couldn’t she have had a drink when she got home?
@bartc123
@bartc123 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍
@KellyMorris-x6k
@KellyMorris-x6k 5 ай бұрын
That’s what I said also
@LawNerd23
@LawNerd23 5 ай бұрын
👏 look at you. You're so smart. Thank you for not drinking the Kool-aide like the ones who flunked kindergarten and can't figure that out.
@wendyd_darling
@wendyd_darling 5 ай бұрын
@@LawNerd23 what are you even talking about and why are you being so freaking condescending lmao
@lisajeter9511
@lisajeter9511 5 ай бұрын
My exact question as well!
@sandycarroll2640
@sandycarroll2640 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think Karen reed killed her boyfriend
@ali90211
@ali90211 5 ай бұрын
Maybe not on purpose
@outoftime7740
@outoftime7740 5 ай бұрын
The hell if she didnt
@melodiecason2799
@melodiecason2799 5 ай бұрын
​@@outoftime7740you always pass judgment without proof? So if you're ever accused of a crime we will know you are guilty. We don't need proof you're guilty we will just know it right?
@outoftime7740
@outoftime7740 5 ай бұрын
@melodiecason2799 Almost every single guilty person, thinks they are innocent.... And hounding and harrassing all the people, on the stand so far, for not remember every freaking thing, has nothing to do with them being guilty. Everyone see things in their own way and sees things differently. Its human nature. This all happened 29 months ago. Im surprised these people can remember anything. Time makes us all forget. Karen admitted to hitting John, to where a dozen people heard her say it. Now, she wants to change her mind. Hell no. She hit John and she knows it. She took those 2 ladies that early morning, right to where she left John. Injured and laying on the Albert's lawn.
@GenZedsMother
@GenZedsMother 5 ай бұрын
@@outoftime7740Jen had 2 years to go over the testimony and the evidence. You must be a canton cop? 😂
@SHADOWBLACKs650
@SHADOWBLACKs650 5 ай бұрын
WOW, 6am. 911 call has Mrs McCabe saying the victim "got out of HER car".... that's big 💩
@drewc771
@drewc771 5 ай бұрын
"Who does that at that age?" (the one guy asking about the "play-fighting") Me. 😂
@helsbels991
@helsbels991 5 ай бұрын
Literally every man I know lol...
@JusticeJosie
@JusticeJosie 5 ай бұрын
You need to change who you hang out with; typically thats amongvwho we find our better halves! Nothing better about ending up with a troflodite with inferiority complexes who cant act their age! Heck no! Im out!
@kelrogers8480
@kelrogers8480 5 ай бұрын
​@@helsbels991you know some damned weird people!
@kelrogers8480
@kelrogers8480 5 ай бұрын
Maybe it's time to grow up!
@drewc771
@drewc771 5 ай бұрын
@@kelrogers8480 lol. Growing older doesn't mean you have to have a stick up your butt at all times. Loosen up.
@lauraknight8839
@lauraknight8839 5 ай бұрын
Still doesn't explain how roughed up he was and the deep scratches on his arm. Come on ....
@DMiller912
@DMiller912 5 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@message___deleted
@message___deleted 5 ай бұрын
Chloe. 🐕
@outoftime7740
@outoftime7740 5 ай бұрын
Those gashes on his arm, were clearly not from a dog. Those gashes were perfectly spaced apart, on his arm.. meaning his arm obviously got caught on Karen's SUV somewhere. John must have been bending down ,when she hit him in his face and head with her bumper, on her 3 point turn.
@melodiecason2799
@melodiecason2799 5 ай бұрын
​@@outoftime7740yeah no one saw his body. Jen who admittedly looked out that window at least five times across that lawn at the SUV never saw John walking, nor his body lying in the snow.
@melodiecason2799
@melodiecason2799 5 ай бұрын
​@@outoftime7740furthermore the FBI themselves stated that his injuries were not caused by a vehicle. I think their experts with no better than you.
@kimberlythomas1286
@kimberlythomas1286 5 ай бұрын
Chads kids and Joe Murray are a complete disgrace. The jury will definitely see through their lies. Lindsay Blake, is a ROCKSTAR.
@mariabengtssonviking
@mariabengtssonviking 5 ай бұрын
Yesterday Krowski said that Jen's testimony would be just fine and trustworthy, but we can all see what happened today 😂😂😂
@drewc771
@drewc771 5 ай бұрын
I thought she did perfectly fine.
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
Her testimony was nuts. What the heck is wrong with her??😂
@claudiafranco4888
@claudiafranco4888 5 ай бұрын
@@drewc771 Me too.
@danielearnshaw2221
@danielearnshaw2221 5 ай бұрын
Her testimony today was amazing. She is very intelligent, as is her husband, and was able to smack down the trickery of defense counsel’s questions. So long as the jury doesn’t feel bullied by the mass conspiracy theorists, Karen “OJ” Read will be convicted, given the evidence thus far.
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
@@danielearnshaw2221 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@melissabenson6749
@melissabenson6749 5 ай бұрын
Karen Read has "Crones disease" which is very horrible disease of the intestines,I find it very hard to believe she would be able to over drink alcohol or drink alcohol at all!
@tinabellamy790
@tinabellamy790 5 ай бұрын
I to have crohn's disease I personally can't drink alcohol puts me in a flare, recovery for a night out would take 5 days.
@LadyLuck13
@LadyLuck13 5 ай бұрын
Probably why she had a glass from previous bar with her because she had been unable to finish her drink as fast as John. Instead of leaving it half finished she took it with her. I've done that before because I can't keep up with the group and I hate to waste alcohol..lol
@mariabengtssonviking
@mariabengtssonviking 5 ай бұрын
Can you please don't use the same lawyer as the Albert's in tonight's panel with Nick Rocco and the delusional Plevin. I understand that you need 2 people to rebut Nick, but the lawyer is a crackpot. ❤
@nicolaxoxo1
@nicolaxoxo1 5 ай бұрын
This! 💯
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@lisac7117
@lisac7117 5 ай бұрын
Yesss
@becksdom1120
@becksdom1120 5 ай бұрын
Nick is worse
@LawNerd23
@LawNerd23 5 ай бұрын
I mean if they have anything to do with the Alberts you know they're going to be terrible.
@Little-miss
@Little-miss 5 ай бұрын
The man asleep in court when lally is talking 😅
@KellyMorris-x6k
@KellyMorris-x6k 5 ай бұрын
Lol. I missed that. Who was it?
@Little-miss
@Little-miss 5 ай бұрын
16.49 time stamp the old man in blue,red and white coat ​@@KellyMorris-x6k
@GenZedsMother
@GenZedsMother 5 ай бұрын
John’s Dad.
@Chris-Alia
@Chris-Alia 5 ай бұрын
Probably got hit by the Jeep's snow plow.. parents would do anything to protect a child
@LawNerd23
@LawNerd23 5 ай бұрын
Yes and stupid parents throw their own lives away for trashy kids who will eventually join them in hell or prison or both.
@kelrogers8480
@kelrogers8480 5 ай бұрын
Evidence?
@MrBadass9680
@MrBadass9680 5 ай бұрын
Snow plows dont have teeth dumbass
@NottyAries
@NottyAries 5 ай бұрын
​@@kelrogers8480There's no evidence Karen hit him.
@KellyMorris-x6k
@KellyMorris-x6k 5 ай бұрын
Karen could of went home and had another drink to make her numbers go up. Everyone said she was not drunk and I believe it. If she was that drunk driving in that kind of weather she would of never made it home
@noelswo549
@noelswo549 5 ай бұрын
I thought she was framed but more ilisten the more i think she is guilty. She saw him go up the driveway yet then says "Did i hit him?" What an odd thing to say, unless that's exactly what you did. Why would a grown man need to text her to leave?? She waited 10 minutes outside exactly near his body, probably thinking he would get up. She already felt used by him. She ran him over, and maybe the plow did as well. The people in the house had no reason to kill him. And 10 plus people can not keep a secret no matter what anyone says. Why was she awake at 5 am worried he wasn't home?? He was 46 years old, not 19. At 5 am calling his friends and going drunk driving and looking for him, and the first thing she says is, did i hit him? Sorry, burst everyone bubble, but sometimes the truth is right in front of you.
@milart12
@milart12 5 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct. When she called Kerry Roberts and Jen McCabe, she told BOTH that she didn't even remember being at the Alberts that night. Then she says that she saw John enter the Albert residence?
@sandibaker5298
@sandibaker5298 5 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks that these two people are worse than Manson???
@BR-ex9xp
@BR-ex9xp 5 ай бұрын
Who Jen and Colin?
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
Jen does have Manson eyes 👀
@kelrogers8480
@kelrogers8480 5 ай бұрын
Yes, you are.
@sandibaker5298
@sandibaker5298 5 ай бұрын
@@kelrogers8480 So you think killing two of your own children isn’t worse than what Manson did?
@warriorofgodsullivan8289
@warriorofgodsullivan8289 5 ай бұрын
On the Daybell case, it's amazing to me how gullible and easily influenced people can be. Master manipulator or incredibly stupid people? Both I guess..
@kelrogers8480
@kelrogers8480 5 ай бұрын
Oh, be careful! If you think you're too clever to get caught by a cult, you are officially in the highest risk category!
@Armchairdetective189
@Armchairdetective189 5 ай бұрын
I believe Karen Read accidentally hit John Okeefe. I think it’s possible she doesn’t remember exactly what happened.
@Moe-bz6je
@Moe-bz6je 5 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how well they were getting along at the Waterfall Bar. There is a reason why after Karen dropped off John she left him crazy and cruel messages and the reason is that they got into a heated argument in her vehicle.
@melodiecason2799
@melodiecason2799 5 ай бұрын
IMO The reason was Jen McCabe.
@2centswanted113
@2centswanted113 5 ай бұрын
So she murdered him and then left him nasty messages to hear later....
@Moe-bz6je
@Moe-bz6je 5 ай бұрын
@@notsorryyouretriggered lol, you're a shoe'n for the Turtlerider Mob Hall of Fame if you keep that up, 😆 🤣 😂 😹
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 5 ай бұрын
@@Moe-bz6je A turtle isn’t relevant in anyway. Try thinking with facts for the first time in your life. Maybe then you’ll have an accurate opinion for once.Probably not though. Factual thought surpasses your mental capacity 🤣
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 5 ай бұрын
@@Moe-bz6je You’re a stupid person with absolutely no logical reasoning ability. See how that works. Turtles?
@govindagovindaji4662
@govindagovindaji4662 5 ай бұрын
Seems no one is considering that the blob Caitlan saw could have only been the wood chips which may not have absorbed snow yet and were in stark contrast to the lawn. Why didn't others see him in the car (with dome light on) earlier? Maybe he had fallen over into her lap on purpose, cuddly. What if they had left and came back later? No one is considering that maybe John had simply gotten out to take a leak, fell down and grabbed the car to get up and Karen not seeing him in the mirrors, and not knowing he fell, backed up looking for him. Hitting your head on a curb hard causes black, swollen eyes. And what about the fire hydrant? Maybe he hit that and stumbled over a few feet? No one yet has shown the cuts on arm happened that night. He had a jacket on according to EMT 'cutting it open". IMO she was in a black out, regardless. When we are drunk we do really weird stuff ~ "drunk stuff", "inexplicable stuff" ~ especially in a black out and everybody knows that. This is a mystery more than it is 'a frame job'.
@melodiecason2799
@melodiecason2799 5 ай бұрын
That is a very good theory. But it doesn't explain why the alberts and the McCabe's are lying so much about what a transpired that night. It doesn't explain the seven magical butt dials that Jen McCabe claims happened. Doesn't explain why they were erased out of her phone and apparently not by her. All around the time that John O'Keefe was dying.
@Swansong321
@Swansong321 5 ай бұрын
CRAZY that they EVEN went for a murder charge with Karen...I think that she's completely innocent...but I think accidentally killed route would've been easier for the prosecution
@Bliss31
@Bliss31 5 ай бұрын
Gets her put away for longer and it’s a harder conviction to get overturned. So they wouldn’t of had to worry about her for a long time.
@GPDogDrool
@GPDogDrool 5 ай бұрын
They originally did charge her with manslaughter. They upped it to homicide thinking she would take a deal. If it was me I'd have been screwed since I wouldn't have the $$ for a good defense.
@noelswo549
@noelswo549 5 ай бұрын
Sorry but Karen own words say what happened. It makes no sense she saw him walk up driveway then first thing when find body is say did I hit him. It's not even a possibility. She knew she hit him and probably thought he would get up and be ok. No sane person sits outside someone home waiting 10 minutes for a text to leave. Wakes at 5am and calls his friends like he is a 15 year old? He is 46, who she then leaves a kid behind togo drunk driving looking for him??? Jen looks just as guilty and she is annoying but Sorry Karen behavior and own words makes me think she's quilty. Not saying everyone involved aren't drunk wackos but Karen is definitely not innocent
@carolynsherman3439
@carolynsherman3439 5 ай бұрын
I don’t believe for one minute there was a plan to hurt John. I don’t think there was any intention by Karen to hurt John.
@realitykixin
@realitykixin 5 ай бұрын
The entire audience in the courtroom looked very baffled. I don’t know which witness was more damning for the prosecution, Colin or Jenn. Jackson has been kicking ass and not taking names later since the beginning.
@milart12
@milart12 5 ай бұрын
I must be watching a different trial. From what I have heard, John O Keefe never entered the home, Colin Albert could not have done it, Karen Read was drunk and admitted that she ran over John O Keefe.
@Miriam60589
@Miriam60589 5 ай бұрын
Update us on the current day please. We know the story, no need to repeat it on every update!! If newbies don’t know the story, tell them to look at past posts!
@mazg47g88
@mazg47g88 5 ай бұрын
Remember she’s charged with second degree murder
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk 5 ай бұрын
The Albert's run the town. They don't want to admit what happened in the house
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk 5 ай бұрын
The judge even friends with the Albert's and visits them at their vacation home. I just don't get why can't own up to .
@HerbieCassidy
@HerbieCassidy 5 ай бұрын
that's a good point about the glass
@Sleeplessinsilverlakes
@Sleeplessinsilverlakes 5 ай бұрын
I’m still wondering why the people at the house would want to hurt John?? What’s the motive??
@sun4metoo
@sun4metoo 5 ай бұрын
Yes, great question. The only thing I can think of is the rumor that JO supposedly yelled at their kids for walking thru his yard ?? Idk
@mariaskinnider115
@mariaskinnider115 5 ай бұрын
I can only think an argument went wrong. I don’t believe there’s a motive.
@mariee.5912
@mariee.5912 5 ай бұрын
Someone said that JO knew incriminating information about one of the Albert's kids. (Disclaimer, I read that on a comment, not official info)
@elizabethwilson9686
@elizabethwilson9686 5 ай бұрын
Covering for their kids, Colin & Albert Jr maybe, looks that way more & more.
@Psychickitty-e2w
@Psychickitty-e2w 5 ай бұрын
I think the answer may be in the federal investigation I'm just wondering when that will be released I don't know if it's complete yet
@lbergs7136
@lbergs7136 5 ай бұрын
She texted him that she hated him in a drunk rage. Their relationship was different when alcohol was involved. Weeks earlier she thought he was kissing another woman and was screaming at him in Aruba.
@NottyAries
@NottyAries 5 ай бұрын
But Jenn McCabe testified that she looked out at Karen's car 5 times. Didn't see a fight or an accident. The sixth time she looked out, Karen's car was gone and she didn't see the body.
@daisyproud110
@daisyproud110 5 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me why all these middle aged, middle class professional people were drunk driving? Do taxis/ Ubers not exist in their part of the world? To me it’s astonishing.
@A-privilege-not.a-right
@A-privilege-not.a-right 5 ай бұрын
You’ve never been to South Boston
@darkbeach72
@darkbeach72 5 ай бұрын
"hos long to die in the cold" - Jen McCabe's google search history
@_xntrk
@_xntrk 5 ай бұрын
Whoah, Vinnie. Why so serious? That intro photo...XD
@Sandy-dg9ur
@Sandy-dg9ur 5 ай бұрын
Lol When Lindsey crossed Prior's "dr" Chad's storm turned to a drizzle😅😅😅😅
@lisajeter9511
@lisajeter9511 5 ай бұрын
I think it would be an uphill battle proving how intoxicated she was at 0030 when Karen Read drove home.
@lauravallejos719
@lauravallejos719 5 ай бұрын
Nick, wake up and face reality
@cynthiaborrego8040
@cynthiaborrego8040 5 ай бұрын
Nick just wants to be on tv he is an idiot get him off the show !!!!!
@nemellotus8675
@nemellotus8675 5 ай бұрын
I don’t get why all the families would cover this up….why? Who are they covering for? Usually someone breaks from the silence as there are numerous people and youth said to be involved…
@evan1586
@evan1586 5 ай бұрын
You would be surprised as to the reason why.
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
Some families are like this.
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 5 ай бұрын
There has been a “break from the silence”. It was Allison Mccabe. In my opinion they’re all protecting themselves but specifically Colin
@Piat65
@Piat65 5 ай бұрын
It’s not over yet
@milart12
@milart12 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Anyone who believes this contemptible conspiracy narrative as opposed to the obvious fact that Karen Read drunkenly ran over John O Keefe has a screw loose.
@christiedovale7827
@christiedovale7827 5 ай бұрын
hey Vinnie!!
@marysmith3761
@marysmith3761 5 ай бұрын
Zulema and the rest of the cult members are so very stupid. He had a portal in his house? He’s going to be a warrior? Yeah, right…
@LoraHari81
@LoraHari81 5 ай бұрын
Wake up people and follow the evidence and facts. Stop speculating and making up CONSPIRACY theories.
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
Maybe look in the mirror?🤔
@milart12
@milart12 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Anyone who believes this contemptible conspiracy narrative as opposed to the obvious fact that Karen Read drunkenly ran over John O Keefe has a screw loose.
@milart12
@milart12 5 ай бұрын
@@estrella5935 What does that even mean? Another silly post.
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
@@milart12 it means, maybe you should take a closer look at the evidence….or. Lack there of and how it was handled 🙄
@milart12
@milart12 5 ай бұрын
@@estrella5935 But you said "maybe look in the mirror???? The evidence, so far, has established that John O Keefe did not enter the Albert home, that Colin Albert could not possibly have killed John O Keefe , that Karen Read was drunk and admitted that she killed John O Keefe. Unfortunately, the prosecution has had to waste a lot of time rebutting the silly and contemptible theory that Read was framed by more than 20 people, including the police. Only low IQ morons would believe that. Of course, there will be more evidence that Karen Read drunkenly killed O Keefe, accidentally or intentionally.
@eastcoastgirl3770
@eastcoastgirl3770 5 ай бұрын
I know this man that was drinking and driving and struck a woman riding her bike...unalived her and then he hid until he sobered up...by the time she was found was the next day...they did get him but he didnt serve a day in jail because he was into the church..but he did get house arrest..i think shes guilty
@HeyTexasItsMe
@HeyTexasItsMe 5 ай бұрын
I’m sad I missed this Live. Have so much to say 😂
@elizabethwilson9686
@elizabethwilson9686 5 ай бұрын
For those of you that believe Karen is guilty, let's look at everything so far, it's looking like she's innocent if you by the evidence which is what a juror is called to do. 1st, what is the common denominator of all these people that were in house that would create a motive to cover up, the kids, Colin & Albert Jr. All the family and their friends. 2nd cellphone records from the carrier don't lie, even if you delete it us 100 percent still there, the phone records prove the holes in testimony, 3rd tooamy coincidences in butt dialing for phone calls they can't explain, especially Jen, that many butt dials back to back isn't possible with a locked phone or even unlocked, just isn't. 4th the autopsy photos clearly prove he was attacked by the German shepherd, go look how they are trained to bite the arm & pull creating those exact wounds, most policeman that have a German Shephard train their dog to do this, I know because we used to breed & donate to police departments for both police & personal dogs at home, 5th the wound to head is clearly a weight bell that he was hit with, same shape, I feel we will hear testimony on this, but I'm waiting, 6th Jen Googled at 230am & at 6am how long does it take to die in the snow, the 2am cellphone carrier report is 100 percent a fact, she won't be able to get out of that, 7th, it is strange not one body cam was on recording with any officers not even at their homes several days later when questioned again, 8th, they asap got rid of the dog of 7 yrs in another state & redid basement floors & sold the house, leak or not, who redoes the foundation of a basement house? 9th, nobody can remember anything correctly & none match their testimonies at the grand jury, none of them have been able to state the same thing, this is a clear not being able to tell the truth or it WOULD MATCH, 10th, in the video of KR tail light in court at her house it was intact, lit up red, & Jen isn't seen being told KR showed her the light was cracked on said video like she said she was, go back & watch it. I believe the dog was taken out of the house asap that night by Jen daughter to whoever she met at the high-school because it would have had dna on it from John. 11th, pig dna was found on John, dog treats have dna on it. So far looking at the evidence, the folks in the house have not been honest and there is a reason for that. By law, there is more reasonable doubt than evidence against KR, if the jurors are doing their job correctly you can bet they have these same questions.
@LuvBoston617
@LuvBoston617 5 ай бұрын
That is a large range of BAC and level of intoxication. Justice for OJO & KR
@926paaja
@926paaja 5 ай бұрын
Judge bev needs to step off the bench she is ridiculous She can’t even say overruled! We need borowski! Jackson is an OG!!! Awesome
@brendabirkenbach8533
@brendabirkenbach8533 5 ай бұрын
I imo john was dropped off, dropped glass getting out of suv. went in the house and something happened that a fight started. colin and his dad maybe one more! Maybe Cloe charged at john and he kicked or hit the dog? Maybe dog full out attacked john? Or maybe the guys just got in an argument and fight and cloe attacked. They were all drinking! I do not think that it was planned. Also IF KAREN did it, it was totally a accident. But i don't think she did it. Imo it was homeowners and son!
@JBfromFL
@JBfromFL 5 ай бұрын
If the "people in the house" were innocent, they would have no reason to hide and also, the office inside the house would of at least come outside considering there is a fatal cop on his front lawn!
@mytinyvignette2
@mytinyvignette2 5 ай бұрын
VERY SUSS THAT WHEN NICK ROCCO STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE SHOE & COCKTAIL GLASS at 19:30 we get a blank screen ???????
@kaymusictaylor7214
@kaymusictaylor7214 5 ай бұрын
In a real court, no judge will allow anything but yes or no answers, unless the attorney asks the witness to expand or explain something.
@EviL_E1st
@EviL_E1st 5 ай бұрын
Shoe And phone,think that’s why all butt dials 1 after each other
@MValleysMostWanted91
@MValleysMostWanted91 5 ай бұрын
Vinne calling Nick an expert is coMedy GOLD. 😂😅
@teresaward8
@teresaward8 5 ай бұрын
I doubt the McCabes and Alberts were setting John up for an ambush. That’s ridiculous.
@stevengallant6363
@stevengallant6363 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't planned. A fight got out of control. Brian Albert jumped in to protect Collin. Chloe jumped in protecting her owner, Brian Albert. The Albert's drunk Egos got the best of them.
@lauraknight8839
@lauraknight8839 5 ай бұрын
They panicked and the lies started.
@Letsberealish
@Letsberealish 5 ай бұрын
The mccabes and Alberts are wannabe mob families. They protect their own at any cost and have no respect for outsiders. They can't even bother finding out their neighbor's name, it's just another Asian to them. More than likely it all goes back to drugs. The son Colin is dirty and parents will protect their son at any cost.
@drewc771
@drewc771 5 ай бұрын
@@stevengallant6363 How do people just jump to these conclusions? What you're accusing people of is absolutely heinous, and there's no physical evidence that proves any of this at this point. It just seems wrong to me to jump to these conclusions and so confidently make these assumptions about people.
@jenniferruth812
@jenniferruth812 5 ай бұрын
Prob not planned but it happened.
@christinecarr4110
@christinecarr4110 5 ай бұрын
GENTLEMEN THIS IS RIDICULOUS NOBODY KNOWS WHEN JOHN O'KEEFE DIED..... NOBODY KNOWS IF HE WAS INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE THIS IS RIDICULOUS
@sandraperkins7706
@sandraperkins7706 5 ай бұрын
When did the jeep get there ??? And how useful is a snowplow ??? Daaaaa
@lisajeter9511
@lisajeter9511 5 ай бұрын
That would also explain why his cellphone was under his body!
@AnaMaria-wn6jn
@AnaMaria-wn6jn 5 ай бұрын
At first I was on the Read bus up until a few days ago. Although I think the Albert’s destroyed their phones to hide Dirty -Cop activities, I now feel the most plausible explanation is an accidental incident. She impatiently waited for him to return to the car, growing more angry. For whatever reason, he was on his way BACK TO HER CAR as she was in the process of leaving and she ran into him. She prob. did back up pretty fast as she was drunk & mad. She hit him and the jagged pieces of taillight & wine glass cut his arm. The black eyes are a result of internal bleeding / brain trauma. Thats what I think happened.
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
Why do they all keep lying then?
@herecomesdrama
@herecomesdrama 5 ай бұрын
Why wasn't the glass tested inside and out? No solo cup available?
@kirsty3253
@kirsty3253 5 ай бұрын
I love you Vinnie Politan
@Bliss31
@Bliss31 5 ай бұрын
What if she had had a couple of drinks when she got home before going to sleep. Then the alcohol level cannot be determined at time of accident
@PhotographerSteve
@PhotographerSteve 5 ай бұрын
Sadly, this is my jurisdiction area. How this PD receiving federal grants cannot collect evidence properly or utilize on a case by case basis a contract specialist to collect evidence …because this is historically a safe town. Sadly Canton PD may be known as “SOLO cup PD.” when dead, we have plastic RED. This really ticks me off. This is not this is so far proper evidentiary handling,& processing. This is infuriating. Town is not used to push back and not used to physical violence beyond a couple of guys (usually friends) allowing their own inning disagreement To progress beyond a raised voice. This is not a good look. OK
@susanwhalls6230
@susanwhalls6230 5 ай бұрын
Omg! Why did they want to rough John up?
@ali90211
@ali90211 5 ай бұрын
They didn't he was well liked
@estrella5935
@estrella5935 5 ай бұрын
Colin had issues with John & Higgins was mad because he wanted Karen. Could have been of them, but I don’t see them all lying for Higgins. A kid on the other hand…
@susanwhalls6230
@susanwhalls6230 5 ай бұрын
@@ali90211lol I was being sarcastic
@susanwhalls6230
@susanwhalls6230 5 ай бұрын
@@estrella5935I’m guessing g Colin has a very long rap sheet, juvenile detention, prob kicked out of school.
@ali90211
@ali90211 5 ай бұрын
I know I'm agreeing with you
@kirstenL475
@kirstenL475 5 ай бұрын
Yet she showed NO signs of intoxication! Corruption runs deep in that state! Be afraid, very afraid
@kirsty3253
@kirsty3253 5 ай бұрын
Did everybody see that big dummy Nick in the courtroom the morning behind the Killer I mean he was sitting there yawning it was so bored taking up space for somebody that would probably enjoy watching this case but it was yawning it Nick it
@tinaedwards8042
@tinaedwards8042 5 ай бұрын
In my opinion, im I know Karen reads blood. Alcohol level was taken were any of the officers or their wives tested for their alcohol level,? If not, how fair is this trial?
@sandradugan7513
@sandradugan7513 5 ай бұрын
They checked her BAC because somebody decided to section her and that's what they do because she was so "crazy" upset about her boyfriend laying dead in the snow. She probably went home had a glass of wine thinking she didn't have to go anywhere. My question with all this is who did she think was bringing him home after a party where everybody was already drunk.
@butterbeanqueen8148
@butterbeanqueen8148 5 ай бұрын
Caitlin Albert suddenly wants to leave her parents house and makes her boyfriend (who was tired and needed a nap) get out in a “blizzard” and come back to pick her up. And perhaps the dog???
@milart12
@milart12 5 ай бұрын
She's lying too.? Over 20 people are lying, but Karen Read is telling the truth?
@carrieannkouri2151
@carrieannkouri2151 5 ай бұрын
So, if someone tells you they have a portal in their home to the spirit world, run!
@deeannwebster6030
@deeannwebster6030 5 ай бұрын
I really wonder what the O’Keefe family thinks after listening to both sides this far…and knowing most of the lead witnesses prior to John’s death.
@CityBohoGirl
@CityBohoGirl 5 ай бұрын
All it takes is one text, thoughts of cheating, drunken rage. And - yesterday it was said she was screaming dis I hit him??!
@2centswanted113
@2centswanted113 5 ай бұрын
But they dated prior and broke up amicably. Why is it different now?
@JohnpaulHoganwaterfordireland
@JohnpaulHoganwaterfordireland 5 ай бұрын
Karen did it I thought she didn't before the trial but i don't think she meant it.The way this trial is going wouldn't be surprised if jack frost goes up in the stand next
@toribern816
@toribern816 5 ай бұрын
The footage of Zulema trying to leave the courthouse and covering her face kinda made me feel sad for her 😞
@claudiafranco4888
@claudiafranco4888 5 ай бұрын
A inocente woman would never wake up screaming and hysterical and start calling her friends (after waking up his daughter), just because a grownup man didn’t came home that night!? 🤓 That’s very reveling.
@mazg47g88
@mazg47g88 5 ай бұрын
Period
@margaretmorris-calderon2826
@margaretmorris-calderon2826 5 ай бұрын
A grown drunk man.
@SuchaSourPatch
@SuchaSourPatch 5 ай бұрын
Have you been watching the last few people that have testified? Nothing reveling about their testimonies?
@nemellotus8675
@nemellotus8675 5 ай бұрын
I agree, normal people would remain calm and wake up and start the search as he could have fallen asleep over there etc.
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 5 ай бұрын
That’s not indicative of guilt in any way. Many people have described having a physical reaction at the same time something awful was occurring to somebody they love. What doss that prove other than concern?
@TinaReul
@TinaReul 5 ай бұрын
Do you know anything about Tammys 5k run? Are there any listings of the runners and photos of the finishline or the run? Sorry for my bad english, school's out since 1986🤷‍♀️
@quicklykay
@quicklykay 5 ай бұрын
Tammy’s 5K run … School has been out since 1986.
@TinaReul
@TinaReul 5 ай бұрын
@@quicklykay ??? Please correct me, if I wrote total b*llsh*t 😉😘😉
@BR-ex9xp
@BR-ex9xp 5 ай бұрын
Damn. This defense attorney just completely switched up. Good for him
@Piat65
@Piat65 5 ай бұрын
They save the best for last
@luciaconn6788
@luciaconn6788 5 ай бұрын
'cocktail glass was a beer can
@_xntrk
@_xntrk 5 ай бұрын
Concerning the Doomsdayers: Where TF are these people meeting one another? Bulletin board?
@maryellenhagy4526
@maryellenhagy4526 5 ай бұрын
I think she accidentally hit him. He took the drink from Karen with him. He may have slipped and she didn't see it. Soooo much drinking too. So sad.
@Grace-el7yy
@Grace-el7yy 5 ай бұрын
Her vehicle had cameras and sensors so it would have locked up if she was backing up to John
@milart12
@milart12 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Anyone who believes this contemptible conspiracy narrative as opposed to the obvious fact that Karen Read drunkenly ran over John O Keefe has a screw loose.
@username.invalid763
@username.invalid763 5 ай бұрын
If she text him she hated him that proves they were fighting before he got out of the vehicle. Wake up people. She hit him
@Skullswithdronesinside
@Skullswithdronesinside 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, you’re brilliant. A spat, a few mean texts absolutely = murder. Objective fact. You should go to law school. 🙄
@Kimberly-kz2qs
@Kimberly-kz2qs 5 ай бұрын
Hey, Vinnie!! Hey, chat!!
@sandibaker5298
@sandibaker5298 5 ай бұрын
COOL intro!!
@TeresaAnnAskew
@TeresaAnnAskew 5 ай бұрын
Hello Vinny, thank you for covering Karen‘s case much appreciated Karen Read is innocent 💞 Kim🇬🇧
@johnlittle6527
@johnlittle6527 5 ай бұрын
Gotcha moment,watch Jennifer mc cabes eyes at the end of the day when jackson said you where but dialing when the commonwealth say John has passed between 12.29 and 12.50 and watch jens eyes when jackson says it 😮😮😮
@sierraechopnw4228
@sierraechopnw4228 5 ай бұрын
Her body language today revealed a great deal if you watched closely.
@justinefleming7756
@justinefleming7756 5 ай бұрын
Love vinnie,uk
@govindagovindaji4662
@govindagovindaji4662 5 ай бұрын
10:03 Drunkenness turns you on a dime. You can be happy go lucky until a certain point and then turn belligerent. Couples can get along famously while first drinking yet fight like hell when really drunk. And no person knows themselves in a 'black out'. We'd have to see it on video to believe it. I've seen normally quite happy people get very violent ~ scary violent in black outs to the point where best friends can't reason with them.
@Letsberealish
@Letsberealish 5 ай бұрын
I think Okeefe drunkenly passed out in the snow and people in the house saw. No one wanted to go out into the cold to get him so thats when the now-deleted phone calls happened. Because the people in the house were having fun and were intoxicated, they just forgot about it. Once they realized he had been left to die in the cold they panicked. They figured if they frame Karen then she would just be charged with manslaughter and plea it out with no jail time, no big deal. But when the people in charge decided to charge with 2nd degree murder then attention was brought to the case and the coverup was exposed. His injuries comes from the snow plow jeep accidently plowing the snow he had become blanketed by. For the prosecution, continuing on is strictly about saving careers. Too late to go back now.
@BR-ex9xp
@BR-ex9xp 5 ай бұрын
The bruised eyes?
@missybrewer423
@missybrewer423 5 ай бұрын
Where did you get that many drinks
@valiakloeppel7252
@valiakloeppel7252 5 ай бұрын
Karen texted john that she hated him. Fact!
@kristenpino4635
@kristenpino4635 5 ай бұрын
And?
@josephkain6213
@josephkain6213 5 ай бұрын
Go answer that life360 buttdial
@lorrainebest1731
@lorrainebest1731 5 ай бұрын
Such compelling evidence. It’s so rare for people to do that🙄 I hope you’re never a juror
@ErinH-430
@ErinH-430 5 ай бұрын
So? People do that all the time. It’s not proof of anything.
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 5 ай бұрын
Ive texted that to my husband before. He’s still alive
@maybe162
@maybe162 5 ай бұрын
If she still coming at 12:45 PM in Jen McKay was calling him since 1207. That makes no sense at all. He would’ve answered his phone sums up.
@mac7659
@mac7659 5 ай бұрын
Oh Nick................no words
@dennisdonoghue9202
@dennisdonoghue9202 5 ай бұрын
That is not a believable statement. I am just referring to the statement that yeah, couples do it all the time. Act like nothing is going on in front of other people. C'mon! Not stating either that they were fighting or disagreeing but in real life, we all know that happens.
@ginapafitis1966
@ginapafitis1966 5 ай бұрын
That glass needs to have some sort of DNA ONIT Before keeping it as evidence
@username.invalid763
@username.invalid763 5 ай бұрын
I believe she did hit him. I believe they were fighting she didnt want him to go in and he wanted to go. She never would have ever said i hit him if she truly saw him go in the house
@jacqueeaton1080
@jacqueeaton1080 5 ай бұрын
Unbelievable 😂
@slaws2279
@slaws2279 5 ай бұрын
How far away was John’s shoe found from his body? Anyone testify to that?
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