Where Was Officer John O'Keefe Murdered? MA v Karen Read Day 9 Recap

The #KillerOrCoverUpMurderTrial judge ruled that Turtleboy, Aidan Kearney, would be barred from key testimony due to witness intimidation. Officer Brian Albert, owner of the property where the victim was found, testified that #KarenRead and Officer John O'Keefe never entered his house.
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[@COURTTV]

#CourtTV - What do YOU think?

[@belindastutz8200]

@@allamerican777no way

[@kayvee9094]

@@allamerican777 Driving drunk and not remembering is not an excuse. She knew immediately when she woke from her drunkin stupor that's why she was hysterical. The defense is ridiculous blaming the dog. A dog is to blame but not Chloe.

[@kirsty3253]

@@kayvee9094 I agree and all this if its a cover up why is it the EMT's not the cops all saying she said... "I hit him"

[@Pinklady12]

the state hasn’t proven karen killed John - end of week 2 and nothing

[@Pinklady12]

what about the library that julie said existed 😂😂

[@LeahdaVinci]

Most police officer DO NOT believe in coincidence. Neither do I. Rip out the floor and replace, sell the house, get rid of the dog, dont go outside and help..... Those are not coincidences. And I will never be convinced that Karen did this. SO much reasonable doubt. SO much.

[@seamusmcshizweak]

The google search “hos long to die in cold” at 2:27am on the night of the death is merely coincidence as well I’m sure.

[@cjsays19728]

seriously .. they rehomed he dog - very different .

[@eleanorsvenson2958]

Exactly!!!!

[@eleanorsvenson2958]

@@cjsays19728It’s semantics.

[@user-jv8zj6nb6v]

Colin and Brian are responsible

[@supermutharunna3118]

A police officer for 30 years and you don't go outside to see what's going on outside , come on now.

[@fitflik4784]

The same day he attended a funeral in NY for another cop. Out of sheer curiosity I would have been outside asking WTF happened??

[@georgelagos4411]

Exactly 💯these are his friends and relatives. This guy is guilty in my opinion. Wait until you see the nephew Colin Albert he’s a real Pisa

[@michaelcooke8989]

Talk to Them now ,Tell em

[@cateellington4081]

Not when a body is found on your lawn and uninvolved police have already started investigating It’s called being a professional You don’t go interfering into another police officers’ investigation

[@gunnybunny4081]

It’s crazy to see how the media manipulates video after watching this trial & specifically this testimony. The reporter says Brian Alberts a Boston PO, he knows CPR & hears a situation happening on his lawn & that was his answer for not going outside. WHAT? He testified he never heard it & now they’re making it seem he did. It also appears to be edited in Chris’s wife testimony showing her to be more forthcoming coming than she actually was. Why? Weird

[@chrissullivan4530]

Conveniently..the officer that lived diagonally across the street..his ring cam was not on that night. So much deceit and so many lies

[@Physics072]

Its just a normal day in Creepy Canton. That town needs an enema same with the Judge.

[@sierramcclary2897]

How do you know that it was deceit. Y’all making allegations against people without any evidence

[@doug7474]

@@sierramcclary2897no evidence? 😂

[@TruthNationUncensored]

​@doug7474 right? 😂 these guilters bumped their damnn heads

[@Physics072]

@@sierramcclary2897 Plenty of evidence of lying on the stand. McLaughlin was. Albert's wife was about the dog. Was fine with humans yet put two in the hospital. They only talked about one of the two. They are probably more close calls.

[@Imaginepeace43]

As a police officer, there’s no way he just stayed inside. Not normal. Good cops run to the scene

[@gs11817]

Right, and why wouldn’t Jenn McCabe have gone inside to get Brian Albert when she and Karen were outside giving CPR. He was a first responder.

[@lots2learn373]

One would think that responding ~ rushing to "serve and protect" would be intuitive and ingrained. The Albert's and kin would have had to be restrained to stay put of it .. imo. And he'd just returned that day from a fallen cops funeral in NY. His emotions would have been keyed up ,i.e , "not losing another brother!".

[@andremichau2455]

Every time. So too any person who just heard an injured person or body was found on their property.

[@technigeneric]

@gs11817 Exactly. To emphasize your point, we've heard the 911 call Jen made and they were asking her to find blankets to help John. She didn't have any and refused to go inside her SISTER'S house to get some just a few feet away.

[@brandonman1315]

He’s also a trained first responder

[@TootsyMcSwifferbutt]

Total BS from Brian on why he did not go outside. My family is full of cops and I can tell you they would NEVER say “Oh, the guys outside got this”. Absolutely not. Cops have a take control mentality. So if that’s your house, you’re taking control! You’re finding out what’s going on, who is where, what is what, you’re giving orders to your family members- stay inside, call this person, go get help, etc.- and you’re damn sure giving first aid!! Cops def have a different way about them, but this is not by any means different; this is alarming!!

[@juanacastillo7154]

he was old and retired, drinking the night before , not up to jump out of bed .

[@sierramcclary2897]

That isn’t BS at all. Police officers also know not to interfere in another police department investigation

[@Physics072]

@@chrissyellem7397 How many dead bodies of a fellow cop you had drinks with the night before showed up on your dads front lawn? Did your dad just step over the carcass to get the mail? Wow, cold as ice fellow.

[@aaronwhite1929]

Probably one of the best comments I have read from someone so far regarding the kind of behavior that SHOULD have come from Brian Albert. Well said.

[@kristenpino4635]

They drove all the way to NY for the funeral of an officer they have never met but did NOT go to John's funeral.

[@deniluhoffman]

One of the hardest things for me to accept is how a couple could be told that someone was injured/dying in their front yard not running out to see what is going on! The sister, Jennifer knows that house. Why didn't she run in and grab blankets, anything to warm the victim up? Just can't get past these issues.

[@beckster6116]

If I recall the testimony John was already removed by the time they were woken up.

[@Physics072]

I thought the same thing. That Jen is COLD as ICE. ZERO help from her. Her job was to control the narrative. She then huddled up with everyone in the house made a 2nd plan and executed by calling the police and have them drive all the way back to let them know "Oh I think i heard he say she killed him"

[@yogabee2222]

Lots of lies

[@sierramcclary2897]

John was already removed from the house

[@aaronwhite1929]

I have found it more than suspicious that the "investigating officers" (if you can call any of them that at all) went all the way over to a neighbor's house to borrow a leaf blower and red solo cups (hard eyeroll inserted here). They all knew exactly whose house they were at. Why not just go bang on the door and borrow THEIR leaf blower and/or THEIR red-freaking-solo cups? Isn't that the first place ANY REASONABLE PERSON would go to get some help or some answers? The answer to these questions is simple. Everyone showing up to the scene that morning already knew the situation... a fight-gone-wrong happened in the home and everyone was coached at this point not to even look at the Albert's house or door, for to do so would have opened the literal "door" to investigation... something that none of the corrupt officers wanted to do. They wanted to pretend like this was just some random dude on some random lawn in some random town that they just needed to scoop up and take to the hospital. A big giant "nothing to see here folks" kind of approach. Fortunately, the utter ludicrousness that was the investigation is being exposed on national television for the world to see. The cover up is being exposed. Sadly, however, no one is going to be held accountable for O'Keefe's death. The crime scene is completely erased. Short of one of those folks in the house stepping up to tell what really happened, we will never have the whole story. What a fuc*ing shame.

[@Rebeccawrites7]

As a former LEO, if I was seated on this jury, I couldn't convict her on the shotty police investigation alone. So many holes & inconsistencies.

[@Qbert2407]

Intentionally shoddy in my opinion as almost all LEO involved have been buddies since school days. Goode with Proctor and Lank with Chris and CPD Detective Kevin Albert.

[@andremichau2455]

Agreed. The lack of good, solid evidence invites reasonable doubt.

[@dallascat70]

Once that solo cup pic came in, it was over

[@milart12]

What else do you need other than her admitting she did it, she was drunk and the debris from her taillight near the body? Its an open and shut case.

[@katrinat.3032]

@@milart12 Right and her blood alcohol level was borderline over the limit at 9am!! So what was her alcohol level 6 hours earlier???

[@kimmy722]

The sister in law dropping donuts off that morning ..during a blizzard..and putting them in the nephews car..not going in the house when seeing her BEST FRIENDS car in the driveway???? Really?? Lmaooo

[@Alemaniaturquia]

6 donuts for 6 people the secream. Guilty 😢

[@ruthchristy5709]

Now it's coffee and donuts BA said,🤔

[@mauiswift6391]

They asked her to come into the house when she was arriving.

[@kimmy722]

@@mauiswift6391 I watched the trial. She tried adding that in, but you can tell she was lying.

[@mauiswift6391]

@@kimmy722 no she wasn’t she went into the house, it was corroborated by her sister and brother in law.

[@carrow1057]

From now on, if a crime happens on our property, we know that the police should never come in

[@mayarodriguezsrensen6904]

Yea, and if a dead body is found on your lawn, guess what! No probable cause to search your home! Those officers literally said that! All those text book examples of how a body found on your property isn't just probable cause to search the home, it could be considered exigent circumstances, those are all wrong. All it means is that your house happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time when some girlfriend decided to kill her boyfriend. Just mind blowing.

[@karinaz8756]

@@mayarodriguezsrensen6904they will never get past the house not being searched. If anyone else had a dead cop on their front lawn you would be detained in handcuffs in the back of a cop car. These cops didn’t even put up crime scene tape. The house is quickly sold at a loss after the floor was replaced. This entire case is reasonable doubt. .

[@Miriam60589]

😂😂😂

[@kristenpino4635]

If they do come, they shouldn't leaf blow the "crime scene" or borrow solo cups from the chief across the street to collect blood samples.

[@Fluffylover261]

@@mayarodriguezsrensen6904 question do you think they handled it correctly? Okay no probable reason but isn’t it strange that non of the wounds are like a car hit him? I mean look at the AM case of that young man that was killed by a so-called hit and run. If he was hit by that car he should have injured his legs yet nothing was showing that.. if you hit someone is it possible to have a injury at the back of your head and scratches on one arm as he had?

[@williamwalsh6282]

Defense just needs one photo… Photo of John’s autopsy = not hit by a car

[@chrislanciani1165]

FACT

[@mauiswift6391]

How will that depict such a thing? You require the ME that wrote the report and actually did the autopsy in person. Think now come on.

[@williamwalsh6282]

@@mauiswift6391 how? Common Sense!

[@declan92100]

So a man is found murdered on the property of people he spent the night before with, but the house wasn't of interest to search? And this was an investigation of a POLICE OFFICER?! How far around the property did they bother searching?

[@carrow1057]

BS we don’t believe You slept through the whole thing what a crock

[@SLOAngieBabie]

No one asked if they wore earplugs or sleeping masks. My husband was cop who worked shifts, used blackout window cover and earplugs.

[@mandyrayner783]

What kind of police rum that county They have bad memories They are deaf They don't cordon off crime area properly They used a leaf blower lol They said a blizzard so no tent They put blood in cups in a bag They had loads of foot prints around

[@Alemaniaturquia]

Reason defense asking the time. Is because this people don't go to bed early. And they were up. They put the dog to sleep I mean sleep

[@Itsdestinysheree]

I'm getting more questions than answers...

[@stevengallant6363]

And that is EXACTLY what the prosecution wants. Watch the cross examination of Brian Albert on Monday. I bet he gets caught in a bunch of lies.

[@Ieezeca]

See if the answers come...

[@ApplePie..]

Nicole said she didnt hear anything BUT she also claimed the dog Chloé was in the room with her and her husband. German Shepherds are very protective of their owners. She would be barking and wake them up.

[@berniecoffeydaly6047]

He was found with dog bite marks and their dog had bit people before and now suspiciously the dog is rehomed and and no where to be found

[@berniecoffeydaly6047]

Turtle boy not being allowed in is way off suspicious.

[@lisakelley4583]

So even the dog didn’t hear anything

[@julesthecat.]

Yeah I don’t believe that a German Shepherd didn’t bark. If it were other breed of dog fine but those ones are known for barking anytime someone comes near the house

[@cjsays19728]

@@berniecoffeydaly6047 seriously - that is not a dog bite . the dog bit a woman who interfered in a dog fight - its really important to state facts and not make up stuff

[@TattedTara]

She didn’t hear Karen screaming either? Come on now.

[@Physics072]

Nope sound proof house. But they immediately see the donuts lady sneaking to put donuts inside a frozen car. These people ALL lie when the truth is easier to tell. Why? What are they hiding?

[@sierramcclary2897]

If she was sleep, it’s possible that she didn’t hear Karen Read especially if she was drinking.

[@Cameron_F]

The German shepherd would have definitely been alerted by a woman screaming outside.

[@latoyajounteabradford4450]

If I was drinking and out late then had a after party ummm yeah a 🚂 or a Mac truck could be running next to my bed I would not hear them at all .. I slept threw many things and only woke up when I was touched to be woke up I believe her and her husband

[@aprilharrison1247]

This is actually plausible though

[@ApplePie..]

This isn't about Karen Read anymore this is about saving the asses of the Alberts and Mccabes.

[@EC-dz3fb]

... whom Karen has falsely accused and slandered.

[@ApplePie..]

@@EC-dz3fb if anybody's being slandered it's her. Their shady and sketchy past actions speak for themselves.

[@Rambo-John-J]

Agreed

[@dannydee3459]

⁠​⁠@@EC-dz3fb The FBI said they had 3 different accident reconstruction experts look at this case and all 3 of them said those injuries were not consistent with being hit by a vehicle. Why would the fbi say that if it wasn’t true

[@EC-dz3fb]

@@dannydee3459 I never said the FBI was lying.

[@tinab3627]

Anyone else worried about the jury too? Everyone in this town seems to know each other. Hopefully they too won’t be biased towards the prosecution

[@leelatham1785]

The trial is not in Canton.

[@sierramcclary2897]

Hopefully they want be bias to the defense either.

[@MN-ty2rc]

I really have no idea how they were able to find a jury for this case. I live in massachusetts and so many of us knew about this long before it got national attention. These jurors must have been living under a rug.

[@drewc771]

I frankly trust the jury far more than I would trust people out here on comment boards.

[@Kvhealth]

​@@MN-ty2rcI just. Remember the funeral or parade that happened when he passed. But like a month ago I heard of this case. Hello neighbor 👋

[@LittleMoore-sp2pt]

Nothing fishy about the female inside the house googling "how long to freeze to death"

[@SonetLandman]

Really??

[@sierramcclary2897]

I havent seen any evidence that, that is true

[@Physics072]

@@sierramcclary2897 Yes you might not have seen the evidence but its true. Their will be an expert battle over that. Most database experts are on the side of "the search was made at 2:37am. But people did not understand DNA in the OJ trial so they will be able to defend it.

[@Wellh0wrya]

Yes… these people obviously think they are above the law

[@VoiceofReason515]

Jen Mcabe was googling that while he was out in the snow dying.

[@opium77757]

Sold their house, rehomed the dog, & nobody knows, saw or heard anything??? This is a (hard sell) & I ain't buying! 🎉🎉🎉🎉FREE KAREN!🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@melissahaire7058]

You absolutely can be ambushed by one person! Just like a bear can ambush you! Just one bear, just one person!! Vinnie's off on this one!! Lol

[@gradyrogers6707]

🎯

[@karinaz8756]

Especially if you’re drunk.

[@RLFinTX]

I think someone in his ear piece said that and he repeated because he had a strange look on his face as he said it.

[@melissahaire7058]

@@RLFinTX He still said it, and doubled down on his statement!! Lol

[@3lizbeth722]

I can’t imagine being a police officer and leaving my front door unlocked all night long.

[@Physics072]

Our doors never locked either as a kid. Big house 6 kids I get that part of it. Depends on the neighborhood. Ours was nice no crime. Some places yea you have to lock up.

[@vickizsecrets]

Agree! Not in this day and age!

[@inxine]

and even let someone else burst into their bedroom haha

[@Voyager759]

Who would dare go into his house? The power he commended!

[@RLFinTX]

@@Physics072 As a kid, yes, but not these days and not a cop, who knows and sees what happens on a daily basis.

[@rayoflight959]

I 're-homed' my dog and what? I also 're-homed' my home to another residence after ripping out the basement? 🤣🤣🤣

[@ApplePie..]

Brian Alpert also rehomed his vehicle and bought a new car.

[@rayoflight959]

@@ApplePie.. Who are you referring to? Brokeback Boston Brian?!

[@user-jv8zj6nb6v]

Killed a man framed his girlfriend disgusting behavior Albert's

[@rayoflight959]

@@user-jv8zj6nb6v We'll see if they get away with it. If they are in fact friends or tribe members of is-ra-el (think berkowitz), they'll get off.

[@dianaduguay6190]

I think we all see what's going on here. One thing I know for sure is Karen Reed did not kill her boyfriend.

[@dasauto44]

3 flights of stairs means he didnt go up on his own feet for the missing 4th.

[@OliviaNile]

Apple health data only logs flights of stairs “climbed”, or ascended.

[@Physics072]

@@OliviaNile They don't use GPS for it. the phones have built in sensors for elevation and pressure changes.

[@kimmy722]

The guy claiming how accurate GPS is, clearly is overstating it. When I am at work , my GPS shows me in the schukyll river which is across the street.

[@dianamarietaylor]

Maybe when he was hit he flew up

[@Physics072]

@@OliviaNile Yea I saw the Judge might not have allowed that because the Prosecution said the GPS data shows the car being a block away so how could he have climbed stairs? Of the two technologies GPS is the least accurate in a building + snow outside + poor signal (Which the Alberts admitted) It can be off a mile. flights climbed” on an iPhone fitness app does not use GPS it uses an altimeter + accelerometer built into the phone. So it will work fine inside a building and is more accurate than GPS. Which means that stair data should not be tossed out. He certainly did not climb stares inside the car. And of the two GPS is the one that is affected most by location, buildings interference etc. The stare climbing is different technology. I don't have a apple phone does it only track going up stairs or does it do both up and down? I thought it did 10ft change in altitude up or down. Not sure it was omitted by the Judge though. Anyone know?

[@Pattches120]

Lots of unanswered questions.🤔

[@kim_morgan446]

That's in every case. That's the name of the game. Unless you witness something, there are unanswered questions

[@GenX1968]

They need to become total pariahs in the towns they live in. Ignore and refuse service to all of them. It’s so obvious they are lying. The only thing they’re good at is making themselves look like fools and evil demons.

[@shantoreywilkins651]

❓❔❓⁉️

[@Autumnnss]

Lol he slept through a blasting loud alarm and police presence inside the home. Sure, buddy.

[@sierramcclary2897]

It’s not uncommon

[@pb4121020]

If the victim was knocked over by a car surely his lower body would be bruised, not both his eyes swollen and shut closed.

[@polls2694]

Are you kidding me, this woman gets rid of her dog of 6 years right after this death and they sell there house! This man does not go outside when all this commotion is going on outside his house. Yeah something is really fishy with these people.

[@nuorigin]

That was the family house. He had it for 11 years and his parents before that. There's so much more

[@Lisa_leelee]

And none of their stories line up. I don’t think that there’s merit in the play fighting in the bar… but I do think something happened to him and it did not involve Karen. Everything is flawed from the statements…. Not being signed and done in groups… to the blood that sat in red solo cups for 2 days in the sally port. This evidence should be thrown out because it’s not evidence. I am all for the cops! I’m Not a conspiracy theorists… but I do think something is foul. I think…. It was an accident or a cover ip for a 17 year old hot head who was leaving when John was dropped off. Maybe not covering up blood inside…but they all are protecting something. The phone calls and phone patterns speak volumes. He deserved more than this!

[@janetreich9334]

Plus if they never heard anything, that German Shepherd would have. Those dogs hear everything. There is no way German Shepherd wasn't barking like crazy when this was going on. I know when anyone is around because my dog hears everything.

[@AdrianaHernandez-zr9gd]

I can get past the house and even rehoming of the dog, but there's so much more that is just a brainscratcher on their behavior and other facts that have come out. The sad facts are that John and his family will never truly get justice becos the case has been handled so shoddy .

[@janetreich9334]

Plus they dig up the whole floor in the basement and then sell the house. Sounds like a lot of corruption if they were under investigation from the FBI.

[@user-ut3ft4qn5f]

I can definitely tell you one thing. There is no way in hell her blood alcohol levels where that range Something is definitely fishy about this.

[@rosemarygallagher3076]

Yes. You're right. The person drawing the blood for alcohol blood count USED alcohol wipes! Are you kidding me. If I did that I would be walked out the door, period! You cannot draw blood through an alcohol wipe,,?

[@lesleyhughes3174]

Oh but of course!! 🙄

[@valiakloeppel7252]

She said herself she had at least 4 drinks in one bar alone. Test given many hours later showed she was still drunk. Facts

[@chloer2584]

@@valiakloeppel7252the thing is so far we only know she had 1

[@aaronwhite1929]

@@valiakloeppel7252 Well, first off, where do you get your information that Karen said she had "4 drinks in one bar alone"? Second, bartenders have recently testified that Karen did not appear intoxicated or act such. Third, who cares what her BAC was at 9:08 the following morning? Could Karen not have had a drink of something in her own home sometime in the early morning when she is obviously awake and stressed as hell that she is not hearing from John? Who is to say that perhaps Karen had NOTHING to drink at the bars, but instead drank a glass of wine at 7:30 in the morning? Or perhaps had a drink or two at the bars, went home, got stressed as mentioned above, poured herself a glass of wine and drank that? A BAC taken 8 hours later cannot in any way, shape or form be made to "prove" that Karen was intoxicated the night before.

[@Qbert2407]

Awesome job, Nick! Some of us live local & have been following case since day 1 and have had suspicions ever since. Hushing residents, realizing all LEO’s involved were townie friends since childhood. Proctor/Goode about same age, CPD Lank, Selectboard member, Chris A & CPD Detective Kevin Albert same age. Loyal townies covering for townies. No huge conspiracy, small coverup of people in power. Tons of other red flags. KAREN IS INNOCENT. Period.

[@nxnxnx800]

Nicole Albert is a LIAR. She got rid of her 6 year family dog. Rehomed and got rid of is the same thing whack! Sold that house, worked on the basement and on and on and on! No one gets wounds like that on an arm from a taillight which didn't exist in that snow!

[@toddmcmasteraviation]

Why did they get rid of the dog? Why did they sell home so quick? 50 K below asking. This whole thing stinks.

[@EC-dz3fb]

They re-homed Chloe because she bit two people and another dog. They could either re-home her or have her put down. 😔

[@secondrule]

Especially in THIS sellers' market for the last 4 years... NO ONE sells at a discount. NOOOOOOOOO WAY.

[@stefankropff]

Not even the dog woke up during the comotion outside, lady screaming, flashing lights, leaf blowers blowing, nope all 3 didnt hear a sound!

[@sebfettel]

It blows my mind the amount of people working in the justice industry who seem to totally lack discernment

[@PostalWorker14]

Definitely they like to escalate things for their benefit

[@nataliedigiovanni4863]

Law enforcement on all sides and courts are ALL corrupt. It’s disgusting

[@user-ut3ft4qn5f]

Lights scream shouting the sound of a fire truck. That would make any dog bark. You hid inside your house or maybe you was cleaning up the blood. No tail light or glass found until hours later all of the phone calls the way the police handled this investigation and the cop going into the office at 1:30am. These are all things that don’t add up. This makes my think not guilty

[@kim_morgan446]

Would you think they weren't guilty if they had come outside? Would that be enough, or would you find another reason they are guilty? There are always things that don't add up. That's life.

[@rva517]

The fact is that OKeefe was in the house and got in a fight in that house. Then they tear out the basement floor sell the house for $50,000 cheaper than market. Get rid of the dog🤣🤣. Come on this Karen woman is gonna sue the hell outta both police departments

[@user-ut3ft4qn5f]

@@Kaykay-nn8yd I said the sound of the fire truck as in the motor running. It’s loud. Screaming is loud There is a reason they never came out none of them came out for a reason!! Guilty is written all over this family

[@kellycurran4608]

We had a 70 lb German Shepherd too. She would have been going crazy barking when all of that was going on outside. I find it hard to believe he was asleep.

[@lottorabbit]

Moral of the story everyone… Stop drinking. Stop acting, ignorant and getting drunk.

[@sylerbo]

I cannot possibly be the only one who believes that people could and possibly did sleep thru events! It baffles me how people can't think further than their nose.

[@secondrule]

Could...but i doubt it.

[@lillykinnamon3929]

Highly unlikely EVErYOne including the dog slept and/or were quiet throughout all that!!!!

[@sylerbo]

@lillykinnamon3929 throughout all what?? The efforts to resuscitate, the conversations among each other.. the distraught cries of Karen...how loud was she? How thick are the walls in the house, from the building itself, the doors, locale of the rooms, back of the house? drapes, fans? Do people fall asleep to the TV, etc.. How loud do you think it has to be....? You don't know anything for certain. No one does.. tho we can surmise all day. !!!!

[@lillykinnamon3929]

Looks like we have one thing in common… We’re both baffled! But, for different reasons.

[@declan92100]

Body on property isn't exigent circumstances for a search, not worth calling a judge for a warrant and didn't even bother asking consent to search.. Crazy

[@secondrule]

The thin blue line.... is not just a movie.

[@declan92100]

@@secondrule It's scary that the Commonwealth is even prosecuting this case. What is the theory? She decided to murder him on a night out. in a police friends front yard with her car? And the Albert kids call the judge "Aunt Bev" So corrupt..

[@ShirlBussman]

I'm waiting for Brian Higgins to be interviewed. I missed part of today. Love Court TV

[@Daysfreak57332]

same because in one pre-trial hearing it was stated he participated in a federal proffer.....which also makes me question if he will testify as he did in the past for the trial or if it will change due to the proffer? I know the feds say Karens car did not hit John so there's that. But is there perhaps a reason they want this trial to play out? collect more info on whoever they've been investigating?? I dont think in either scenario, someone wanted John to die, but something happened and Im not totally convinced either way but leaning more towards a mishap in the house. ITs a big game of Clue.

[@Alemaniaturquia]

@@Daysfreak57332yes y are right. The feds are doing exactly what u say. No need to alarm the defense or anybody

[@cynonthechat]

Let me guess; that’s where they’ll finally nail them huh? We haven’t seen a thing yet to show that the Albert’s had anything to do with this

[@cynonthechat]

Nick is a clear representation of the emotional, unhinged quack jobs that support KR lol

[@Krystal_Kleer]

I think, Karen didn't want to go to the after party and John did. They probably argued about it, but she agreed to drop him off at the Albert's house. Something terrible happened to John in that house. Who beat him up and with what, we don't know. The dog Chloe, based on John's injuries, was involved. DNA from John's wounds would have been great to test against Chloe, but she's gone. They "re homed" her according to Nicole Albert. No search was ever done on that house, which was sold right after the murder. Terrible police work, a cover up or both 🤷🏽

[@susanyamini]

She is totally innocent.

[@eleanorsvenson2958]

I think maybe the homeowners are definitely more guilty than the woman who dropped him off. All of the evidence points to the Alberts.

[@Objection_23and1]

I came into this trial knowing not much at all, I didn’t take interest in it at all really, I was too busy watching the eye drop murder trial, Adam Montgomery, Brian Kohberger etc. so when this started I went in completely blind to most of the people and facts etc and so far I have way more questions, especially these people testifying that appear to not be credible at all.well they don’t seem credible to me, I mean it seems like most are lying about facts that don’t matter that much. So far for me if I was on the jury the prosecution has not proven there case yet, we will still have to see I guess, but I can’t help to think already that this does feel like a set up or cover up… Lastly this judge appears to be biased.

[@shelleyupchurch3735]

Agree 100% and started off the same way as you.

[@Physics072]

Same thing happened to me. I at first thought ez she ran him over. Not so much now.

[@My-22-Cents]

Chloe would have heard/seen all the LE and barked her head off that morning. Justice for Chloe 🐕 where is the dog?

[@janetreich9334]

100% Ask some Gernan Shepherd owners if they think that they would not have heard that dog. Those dogs are on duty all their life.

[@deedeegray7489]

She bit two women after John was killed and they had to get rid of her. The shelter would not even take her, because she was such an aggressive dog.

[@frank-xy4zs]

⁠@@deedeegray7489you know what they say about aggressive dogs..

[@jamesbuttery3862]

It's in Vermont. Listen to the homeowners testimony.

[@My-22-Cents]

@@jamesbuttery3862 I did. I don’t believe her.

[@Boston40Cal]

Rehome your dog for WHAT??? I've never heard of an affluent white family separating from their dog in any capacity. Ever!!

[@sd560]

Maybe they heard that Kristy noem just bought property in the neighborhood and they worried that they're dog might be a target 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@karinaz8756]

They rehome it and REFUSE to give details of the new owner. If the dog was removed for legitimate reasons fine. It’s not your dog anymore. They should have ZERO PROBLEMS with the new owners participating in an investigation. A man is dead and they’re being secretive? Karen didn’t do this.

[@user-se1ev7my6f]

Why did Jen McCabe Google how long it takes a person to freeze outside? She supposedly Googled that after 2:00AM

[@chrislanciani1165]

I know Karen Read will be found not guilty because she is not and then oh well. Bye Office John. It is a disgrace that all of those nasty people will not be prosecuted. The real disgusting shame is the Commonwealth is letting this happen.

[@annemerritt3722]

Why cant they ever be prosecuted?

[@user-se1ev7my6f]

@@annemerritt3722 $$$&

[@Amy-zs8tx]

CMON!!!! That group is a bunch of liars!!! Funny how their answers are almost all identical ~ coached? That Nicole looks like she was angry, rolling her eyes, huffing & puffing! The jury SAW that!!

[@EC-dz3fb]

She probably is angry. Who could blame her?

[@margaretconnery7422]

Corrupt cops are rife everywhere..no way they slept through the ordeal.

[@JennynGA93]

His injuries weren't consistent with being hit by a vehicle. After watching a video of an expert K9 dog trainer I am convinced his arm injuries were from Chloe. But, they failed to take DNA. I think they cleaned the wounds at the hospital. This is a cover up imo. We may never know the details of this case but I believe he was beaten to death by someone.

[@stevengallant6363]

🙏

[@Physics072]

Take a look at the barbell set in the basement of the house. The blue weight holders have a metal tab about 3" wide on each side. If you fell backwards onto that it would crack your skull for sure as there is zero give to it. Like a meat clever hitting you in the back of the head. One punch and he fell into it. Or his GF ran him over and for some reason the police went into full cover up mode to keep us guessing.

[@karinaz8756]

They have YET to recreate the accident. Man has a fractured skull and the only damage to the car is a piece of a back tail light.

[@luciaconn6788]

@@Physics072 yeah the physics. also Brian & Nicole act quilty, no emotion, poor health, ... boozing away thoughts.

[@Physics072]

@@luciaconn6788 They are a bit seedy for sure.

[@ruthchristy5709]

He lost 2 pints of blood, where is all the blood?, in the basement? I think that he was killed in the house, probably the basement and they moved he's body later on as the people coming in and out the house never saw him in the snow .

[@christinemitchell3565]

Yes ,they spent all night cleaning the evidence

[@dorothymiddaugh6234]

If the one daughter left around two, shouldnt they have seen John on the lawn? Didnt Karen drop off John at the Alberts around 1230 am?

[@sebfettel]

The lady acting extremely defensive on the stand is a red flag.. Innocent people usually don't get defensive, and Getting rid of and re homing is exactly the same thing.

[@DR.DisInfect]

It's her Bookaki

[@panrulesall3088]

No, she was pulled into a case where a drunk Karen backed over her boyfriend and doesn’t wanna face the consequences. John was not bitten by “that lady’s” dog.. or amy other dog. He was hit by a car. Imagine yourself embroiled in this kind of BS. When all you did was in fact no or were friends with an individual… All of these people are victims.Except read and her lawyers.

[@kim_morgan446]

please give these people a freaking break, my God. They have been put through hell. You'd be defensive too if you had to deal with harassment like this.

[@lisakelley4583]

Karen is defensive

[@kim_morgan446]

@@lisakelley4583 very, but she gets a pass on everything

[@Imaginepeace43]

Uh, re-homing your dog is “getting rid” of your dog!!!

[@SHADOWBLACKs650]

Selling the house because they can't afford it , but they dug up the basement and put a new floor in... cell phone data shows the victim going up and down the stairs..... looks like something rotten happened in that basement.

[@sunshine22723]

Lol they didn't sell the house until April 2023 that was 15 months later.

[@Physics072]

@@sunshine22723 It took months to get it ready to sell. Basement took awhile to do the remodel and scrub.

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

@@sunshine22723Are you joking or can you really not correlate the sale of their home to the point? They’re trying to distance themselves from the crime scene. Just like getting rid of Chloe the German Shepard because she was evidence.

[@MsPopeye65]

​@@Physics072and as stated it was an insurance claim...

[@Physics072]

@@MsPopeye65 Not following you? Did I ask about insurance in a post someplace? I don't see it anywhere could you quote it so this makes more sense thanks!

[@leslieraymond6372]

Massive coverup by the Canton Crumb Bums

[@J-ellO]

So true!

[@Paula14609]

Nick makes the most sense to me

[@declan92100]

Why is the Judge not taking speaking objections it's insane?! And she is straight up asking witnesses questions herself! What is going on?! This woman is already severely compromised as the Albert kids call her "Aunt Bev" and her brother has defended the Albert's in a case before. Why did she not recuse herself?

[@andreaterrell912]

I was 15 years old and our house was in a court my neighbors house caught fire, 2 fire trucks, a rescue squad truck and 2 cop cars - lights/sirens etc and i literally never woke up, heard anything - all I had on my window was a sheer curtain and blinds - my Dad burst into my room after he realized I wasn’t outside (winds were high & fire dept wanted us clear as a precaution) … I’m NOT defending this family - I’m only sharing that it IS possible to sleep through sirens/lights 20 feet from your bedroom window

[@nataliedigiovanni4863]

Yes people sleep through many things i am one of them. Depends on how sound of a sleeper you are.

[@kelaya528]

What cop doesn't have security cameras? Also it was so convenient the neighbours camera didn't work that night. All that noise outside and the dog didn't bark. Nicole Albert said her blinds were closed as were the curtains, There are NO BLINDS.

[@annemerritt3722]

Dog wouldve barked when Jen Mcabe burst into their bedroom screaming. Maybe the dog was given a tranquilizer or not even alive at this time. Any footage of the dog a day later or a few days later outside going to bathroom or running around?

[@B.Weiser]

Karen is innocent

[@serena9543]

No one was fighting exept for karen and John. She left him voicemail saying she hated him! After she dropped him off and accidently hit him.

[@secondrule]

I guess i have 2 gf who have killed me, then.... If a yelling call is proof, my two exes got away with killing me, oh wait i am alive.

[@christinemitchell3565]

No decent person would do that even if you hit the fire hydrant you stop to see the damage to your car, absolutely garbage

[@jsmith1174]

In the basement with at least one set of fists by Coronel Mustard (Colin Albert)

[@cjsays19728]

been in dog rescue for 18 years - that is NOT a dog bite . too many ridiculous claims from defence - "doth protest too much " .

[@milart12]

Haha No kidding. Good Shakespeare reference!!!

[@dianamarietaylor]

I believe you

[@secondrule]

If the whole defense was ONLY on that, you might have a point, but there's more to this case than a "maybe" dog bite. How many dog bites have you seen, and by which dogs?

[@cjsays19728]

@@secondrule loads and of course the while defence isn't about that but as a animal welfare npo owner for 16 years I can tell you that is not a dog bite.

[@cjsays19728]

@@secondrule plenty dodgy things going on with that I agree but not the "dog bite"

[@christinaphillips5933]

Her attitude tells a Big story 😲 besides that smirk 😏 look she's wearing !

[@Lisa_leelee]

Jen McCabe said she saw Karen drive away. Ppl were looking outside!

[@ThirstyKaren]

Yes they saw Karen hit him. They didn’t want to get involved. Crazy

[@JennySmith-kx6oc]

@@ThirstyKarendid that come out today? They saw her do it?

[@ThirstyKaren]

@@JennySmith-kx6oc no lol - then they would be admitting to a crime by not rendering aid. They will never admit it. But that’s why they are playing clueless. But Karen did hit Johns car on purpose- you can’t accidentally hit another car in a Lexus made after 2018. The cars brakes automatically slam on to prevent it. The only way it can happen is if the safety settings are turned off manually. So Karen lied about that. She hit Johns car on purpose- and there’s only 1 reason why she would do that unfortunately 😢

[@silviamedina6156]

Jen mcbe said that she saw Karen drive and did not see John came inside then text John 4 time at 12:31am he did no answer check the cell. Alcohol involved in this crime

[@lexala]

Jen McCabe is a known liar and bully in Canton MA. It was her idea to set Karen up when she saw the taillight broken from hitting John's car.

[@Physics072]

"I got rid of my dog" = "I re-homed my dog" = " I got rid of my dog"

[@Cameron_F]

The woman also referred to her as "it" 😢

[@Physics072]

@@Cameron_F Yea I noticed they all sort of are acting strange. It must be a psychological type of distancing at hand. That Jen McCabe did the same thing on the 911 call. Instead of saying my friend or officer Okeef was unresponsive. She pretends he is some random guy that fell asleep in a snow bank. She did not give him a name. Some man is laying in the snow is what she said. Just strange.

[@RLFinTX]

For her to mention that she knows exactly where the dog is in Vermont tells me that she will be getting this dog back after this all blows over. I’ll bet on it.

[@Qutanya]

Yea that was funny I didn't get rid of her I rehomed her is the same thing she isn't with them

[@melissaschreiber7]

Which is getting rid of your dog whether you rehome her put her in a pound or anything you still got rid of your dog

[@carebear6763]

SO Glad everyone is finally getting it 👏👏👏

[@jenn9652]

Not only was the dog rehoused the defence was told they didn’t know where the dog was and therefore couldn’t do their investigation in regards to that.

[@carrow1057]

Uh oh and no we find the judges sister is representing one of Brian’s relatives. We finally seeing all the links.

[@berniecoffeydaly6047]

Yes absolutely ridiculous.

[@NYLI11]

Where is his SHOE??? Alberts said you take your shoes off when you go inside. CA was standing near door. JO walks in and gets only 1 shoes off? Did dog chew or bit his shoe? Why is it missing.

[@kim_morgan446]

It was found later on in the snow.

[@NYLI11]

@@kim_morgan446wow really? I have never heard of that.

[@kim_morgan446]

@@NYLI11 you haven't been listening then. The missing shoe was found. It was buried in the snow. No conspiracy

[@sierraechopnw4228]

Ms. Albert’s body language was highly interesting. Hid those lips a TON, blink rate for certain?’s, shoulder shrugs & a whole host of other indicators. Raised my eyebrows a lot watching her testimony. I don’t know what went down but, as of now I don’t feel Ms. Read is guilty of killing him. Next week’s witnesses & cross of Mr. Albert I await in high anticipation.

[@CONCERNEDcitizenforever]

Yes the blinking was crazy!!! 😔🙄😔🙄😔🙄😔🙄

[@katrinat.3032]

Do you guys follow the behavior panel?

[@sierraechopnw4228]

@@katrinat.3032 absolutely…as well as being a member of Chase’s community through his app Applied Behavior Research. Learning a TON from this app in particular and the Friday night lives they do.

[@mortymickelson5229]

In KR's parents interview 9 months ago titled "My daughter will be free", the Father states , at 1:49 in, she (KR) said , "Dad I think I struck something".

[@Swendigga]

ANSWER.•• 37:31 . After her first arrangement, her attorney Yannetti received the call @ his office stating the facts of what happened to John that night. He said Jon was beat up by Colin and Bryan & Karen did not hit him. That Is the timeline 38:23 the witness? The man who repaired the floors? Well, he is dating Julie, Albert sister Jill Danials…. 38:26 it happened months later, you mean the same month the Federal grand jury started sending subpoenas! 38:39 the realtor?, you mean the woman who goes to court with all the McCabes & Albert’s? the close family friend?

[@kim_morgan446]

That is funny considering at her first arraignment, Yannetti said there was no criminal intent, which means she did it, but didn't mean to. He did not say she didn't do it. He actually said she did. Watch it for yourself instead of listening to others. It is on KZbin.

[@Physics072]

@@kim_morgan446 Thats the trouble with booze. Maybe at that time that is what they thought. Her mind was shattered and you have McCabe tossing her under the bus making her believe it was possible. It can happen. Did she pay the Alberts to act so weird just to confuse us too? They + cops created much reasonable doubt. So even if she did it. Too much doubt she will walk.

[@prettypauline6758]

@@kim_morgan446 so if you were Karen you would think that he had died in the house full of cops?! Of course she was questioning if she could have hit him! But the feds determined that he WAS NOT HIT BY A CAR.

[@nataliedigiovanni4863]

It’s arraignment not arrangement

[@kim_morgan446]

@prettypauline6758 what official document or report have you seen about what the Feds found? What medical examiner did the Feds use to determine this? The state is going to call Dr. Irini Scordi-Bellow from the Chief Medical Examiner's Office. She actually performed the autopsy and is going to testify his injuries are in no way consistent with being in any kind of fight or altercation. And yes, I have read the official report.

[@06mrselfdestruct]

It wasn’t a ambush, it was a argument that turned physical and John hit his head and was attacked by the dog, from his injuries it makes the most sense, it wasn’t intentional but they weren’t willing to go to prison for killing a cop

[@timbercoffee]

Sister bursts into the bedroom and the dog doesn't go nuts? Wasn't the dog in the bedroom?

[@annemerritt3722]

Maybe dog as never in bedroom. Id be curious to look for witnesses or neighbors who could confirm they saw or heard dog outside days after the incident in 29th. A dog would be seen or heard even in backyard i would think.

[@valiakloeppel7252]

Ambulance and fire engines STATED their sirens were off because it was late. Did you watch ? Just wow

[@yellowcottagetales]

Dash cam footage proves they were off

[@ThirstyKaren]

@@yellowcottagetaleswhy is no one talking about the fact that it’s physically impossible to accidentally hit a car when backing up in a Lexus. It can only be intentional. She had to turn it off - every time she started the car. I just flipped- she’s guilty 😢

[@RozeechildRN]

​@@ThirstyKarenwhat ate you talking about. I guess the Lexus doesn't hit other cars backing up?? I have a big suburban and a camera and trust me, I can back into cars with it. You haven't even listened to the accident reconstruction experts for the prosecution or the defense.

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

@@ThirstyKarenWHAT? It’s not a physical impossibility for a Lexus to make contact with another vehicle. Take your meds, honey.

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

@@RozeechildRNDidn’t you know ? Lexuses are surrounded by a vehicle deflecting force field 😂😂😂

[@IsabelleIze]

I had the fire trucks, the police right in front of my windows, and didn't hear anything. Absolutely can happen!!! Especially after a been up late at njght . Happens to me !!

[@jamesbuttery3862]

Especially during a windy snow storm!

[@karinaz8756]

Not with a German shepherd in the house. No dog is sleeping through that.

[@Physics072]

I agree for those with a drinking issue I have heard they can sleep through a bomb going off. How long after you sober up does it take to hear the sirens again?

[@IsabelleIze]

@@Physics072 I don't even drink !!!

[@karinaz8756]

@@Physics072 there was a dog In the home. No way he slept through that. A German Shepherd would be going crazy if there were people in the yard.

[@billyb5847]

How could they pick up the blood with solo cups and not find any broken tail light/glass!?? Experts??

[@Mac-sb5lj]

17:30 Screen headline.. "DOOMSDAY PROHET MURDER TRIAL" 😂 🤣 Who stole your P Vinnie? 😅

[@newtron1]

There was an incident at our neighbours house in the middle of the night. There were no sirens but flashing lights. Our bedroom was on the opposite side of our house but front facing. Our blinds and curtains were closed. But. We were wakened by the lights.

[@brookebebabbling]

After watching a video, on KZbin, about dog bites...I know those marks on his arm were dog bites

[@Alemaniaturquia]

I was bitten by one same marks

[@EC-dz3fb]

I'm so glad you're an expert, now. WOW! KZbin is 𝘢𝘮𝘢𝘻𝘪𝘯𝘨, huh?!

[@nataliedigiovanni4863]

lol ok another expert

[@NessaNow]

Why didn’t you mention that by the time Brian Albert woke up, John OKeefe had been transported to the hospital already? Instead you point at him for being a first responder and not going out to help. Help whom? OKeefe was no longer there. Additionally, no one from any other house on the street went outside either. Clearly, there wasn’t a huge commotion. Lights would have been turned on up and down the street and neighbors would have come out to see what was happening.

[@e.d.s_designlab8509]

This smells like another Shawn Ellis type case. Except this time it's a suburban Caucasian woman in the cross hairs of the corrupt Boston Police Department

[@joygonsalves8840]

Hahaha. The dog went to a friendly farmer in VT!?!? 😂 These people are absurd.

[@annemerritt3722]

Probably not the same dog. They could get dna from Cloe their dog .

[@dianafry890]

If the people in the house did hurt John why in the world would they leave the body on their own property? That's just stupid.

[@kim_morgan446]

Ikr. It's absurd

[@estrella5935]

Maybe they were going to say he got hit by a plow 🤷‍♀️

[@mskee1302]

It was snowing, no where to go . Can’t get stuck with a body in the car 🤷‍♀️

[@hurri-db]

Maybe he wasn't dead when he staggered out of their home and they thought he'd die out in the cold

[@kim_morgan446]

@@hurri-db He never made it into the home. What part of that is so confusing for so many people. It will be proven beyond any doubt he never ever made it inside that house.

[@cynonthechat]

Nick knows this conspiracy theory is melting right before his eyes 🤦🏻‍♀️😭🤣

[@debbiejames3096]

GUILTY

[@jacqueschneider4687]

I need all evidence to come together, ive been watching and if im confused im sure the jury is also

[@PostalWorker14]

Evidence is being excluded by judge don’t know why since this is high profile case

[@ilenhalogram]

Yeah this case is super confusing and nothing adds up on either side. I feel like I can’t draw any conclusions either way. The jury has a tough job for this one.

[@PostalWorker14]

@@ilenhalogram Judge is excluding a lot of things

[@silviamedina6156]

Me to is a puzzle very confused and think alcohol involved I don't believe when people are drinking.

[@kim_morgan446]

@@PostalWorker14 It is called rules of evidence and criminal procedure. The rules don't go out the window when it's a high profile case. This must be a lot of peoples' first murder trial ever.

[@maureengerdes2125]

Who was Colin Albert waiting for to pick him up at 1215am? We know it wasn't his parents.

[@annemerritt3722]

One of my questions too! Who picked up Colin? And at what time? And there would be cctv in town main street where he lived showing him get dropped off ? Right? In a storm not many cars on road i would think. Did Colin even leave ?

[@dfbcam4m123]

did the grand jury question the concrete co about the removal of the floor

[@DarleneDutt]

I do not believe Karen Reed murdered him

[@jayrising442]

O'keef was invited over to a controlled environment, where people who did not like him wanted a few "rounds" with him, this "friendly" ambush turned deadly when the family dog reacted to violence and attempted to protect her family. John either fell backwards and hit his head on the dumbells in the garage, or someone in the house struck him intentionally with the dumbell in the garage. His head injury is from a 10lb dumbell. Matches perfectly. Garage was murder scene. Chaos insuse. His body was moved to the front lawn. *Foot steps and phone data will show, Jenn and Karen arrive to see johns body in front lawn, as Karen freaks out, and runs out of the car to check John, Jenn unintentionally leaves her phone behind in the car, because she needs to beat karen to johns phone, jenns apple watch records her 29 footsteps going to john and karen, (29 combined too and from) jenn grabs johns phone. Jenn returns to her phone in her car, takes it with her to call 911, as her phone and watch, AND JOHNS PHONE now record her walking 89 steps to her front house second door near garage (johns phone has movement here after his death, very important). Jenn passes johns phone off too her sister.* Jenn testifies in court that the first time she sees her sister is at 6am as she bursts through her bedroom door. A lie. All of this the defense will show. The docs are actually public record. Anyways, thats what happened.

[@user-nh5ew9ck4z]

Nicole Albert speaks at times like William Durst.

[@melissaschreiber7]

Dude somebody's dead in your front lawn and you don't want to deal with it like what kind of freaking ass statement was that

[@lisakelley4583]

Who counts phone calls?

[@kim_morgan446]

Ikr. This is insane.

[@lindsaybarnes4002]

I bet the dog bit John and John protected himself by punching or kicking the dog off of him and that triggered Brian Albert to be infuriated and got in a fight with him for hurting his dog and it went too far from there. I bet they were horse playing at first and the dog got involved.