Karen Read Trial Livestream - Day 17

[@TinaDanielsson]

0:34 Chatting while waiting for court to start 11:45 Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye (court in session) 16:00 Brian Higgins direct examination _1:31:05__ Super Chats during long sidebar → court on recess → another long sidebar_ 2:22:13 Brian Higgins direct examination continued 3:32:10 Brian Higgins cross-examination by Alan Jackson _4:13:35__ Super Chats during the court's lunch break_ 4:55:00 Brian Higgins cross continued _5:39:30__ Court and Runkle on break_ _5:41:16__ Runkle is back_ _5:42:30__ Super Chats_ 5:54:44 Brian Higgins cross continued _6:12:39__ Runkle pauses to get food (nice elevator music)_ _6:14:40__ Runkle is back_ _7:35:30__ Super Chats during sidebar_ 7:41:46 Brian Higgins proffer with his lawyer present and outside the presence of the jury 7:49:43 Brian Higgins cross continued _7:56:03__ Runkle chatting as court (silently) wraps up for the day_ _8:03:30__ Super Chats_ *Special moments* 44:15 Star Trek enters the stream 4:06:14 That pun was so not intended 🙈 4:38:11 Mr. and Mrs. Runkle origin story 5:41:30 → 5:42:30 Runkle is a "jerk" (part 1) 5:50:58 Runkle is a "jerk" (part 2) 5:52:03 Hot mic

[@dawnijomo1799]

😂😂😂She's looking for a plumber not a florist. 😂 OMG i am laughing so hard I had to hit pause and cross my legs so I wouldn't tinkle 😂 😂 😂

[@becca960]

Uncle Runk, you killed it today! Thanks for hanging out with us. That cross of Higgins was one of the MOST AMAZING things I've ever witnessed. This is my sportsball.

[@emilyaichele9527]

I could listen to Runkle talk about absolutely nothing and be completely intrigued. Thanks, Runkle. You are a delight and I’m learning a ton as I listen to you. ❤

[@amelia8357]

Haha same!

[@Noncognitivism7920]

"This man has aged 15 years up on that stand" " I feel like he deserves it" 💯🤣🤣😂

[@josephinedimercurio5012]

Why don’t you look at lier Karen Read she looks terrible and she deserves for putting people in that situation. You all gonna be shocked when the verdict is going to be GIULTY !!!

[@noshrinkingviolet007]

​@@josephinedimercurio5012If the verdict is guilty it will be not based on the evidence and will cast further suspicion on local LE.

[@christinemiller1967]

@@josephinedimercurio5012if the jury has two brain cells between them they won’t convict. She’s an asshole, but not a murderer based on what I have seen so far.

[@christinemiller1967]

@@noshrinkingviolet007they are creepy corrupt.

[@mrslaceknitter]

@@josephinedimercurio5012 This response makes me wonder if you are a member of one of these police forces. I have a feeling both Karen and John are somewhat unlikable, but it's obvious this investigation is frighteningly corrupt. No honest person would be supporting a Guilty verdict based on the evidence we've seen.

[@jackkoba8053]

SIM cards destroyed, Mew phones for the boys.. and butt dials out the a**. An ATF agent given a free office in the Police Dept who has free access to… it’s a joke

[@napnap5094]

Is it just me or is anyone else stunned the amount all these law enforcement officers seem to drink alcohol in multiple places while driving around all night seems like it’s normal for them!

[@katejarman4598]

And then charging Karen with a DUI

[@ESPHMacD]

Yeah, drinking all night then going out and driving around at the front end of a blizzard… super safe, great plan. And yet all we know about KR is that she was drinking a clear liquid and yet is charged with a DUI….

[@KellieBell]

I think it's possible they were all so smashed that nobody really knows what happened to John. Except that something happened. And in a cops yard. And potentially with alcohol and a vehicle. They all are covering up because they all know they might have had something to do with it and feel some kind of guilt. Except for the one person who was least likely to do it, but isn't one of them.

[@Gringa_L]

LE are famous for being heavy drinkers, not all of course. I mean I get it. The nature of the work they do. It's how they unwind and push aside thoughts of the shit they're subjected to on the daily.

[@kerrymedeiros509]

A lot of cops are alcoholics, the amount of drunk driving is astonishing

[@dawnijomo1799]

One of the multitude of things in this trial that really burns my biscuits is the texts about the kids. Those texts did not need to be read in open court where those kids will hear it 😢there could have been a different way. Also, most people that have kids often say they wish they had more private time together. People who have never had kids and suddenly are basically a co-parent probably do have some frustration, anger, etc but that doesn't mean they don't care for or even love the kids. It just means their life changed, it's probably more chaotic than they expected and they miss the abundance of one on one time with their partner. All valid feelings that the kids do not need to know about.

[@mtz2273]

I was thinking the same thing

[@monicalynn7187]

The Commonwealth wanted to incite anger in the jury.

[@dawnijomo1799]

@@mtz2273 I was friends with a hers, mine ours children aspect. His 2 kids when they were around 12 and 13 found step-mom's diary from when they ll first moved in together. They shouldn't have read it but did. That journal was where she put all her feelings so she she wouldn't say them outloud to the kids. She was protecting them but they ended up reading it and were very hurt. 😢😢 I had to be aunt Dawni for a bit and explain feelings vs reality. Broke my heart to see their hearts hurt.

[@emilys3757]

@@monicalynn7187they wanted to make the defendant look bad

[@treeze_it7800]

Same! It was not necessary at all!

[@inadz.1111]

This is not a Karen Read trial, this is a Butt dial trial

[@inadz.1111]

Every time Lally objects to nothing we all wonder what they want to hide

[@primalcritters]

Totally!!

[@VanirTraditionalist]

He’s supposed to give a basis for his objections, and “this hurts the people I’m trying to protect” isn’t a legitimate reason. The judge is almost as bad sustaining any time he objects. This entire trial is a sham.

[@valoriel4464]

Sir Runkle, what a day! So glad you were covering. Thx ✌🏻

[@ajwysopal]

7:10:59 ya missed the part where the tape was missing. You paused in the middle of the question so I think many people missed that part. Huge moment there that shocked me

[@DoNotFeed_AfterMidnight]

Runkle, I so enjoy your live streams. I had trouble sleeping last night because I was so excited for today. How lucky are we that we have so many excellent minds guiding us through the legal landscape??? Your work is so special and I hope you do more live streams of trials!

[@skullptures6192]

Never heard a man described as a "Silica Packet" before. Outstanding coverage as always lmfao

[@camrygirl84]

Runkle, I appreciate that you don’t talk over witness testimony and the questions from the attorney. Your coverage is the best on KZbin!

[@ajwysopal]

7:10:59 ya missed the part where the tape was missing. You paused in the middle of the question so I think many people missed that part. Huge moment there that shocked me

[@CountessKitten]

Agreed!

[@KitKatSukiKat]

@@ajwysopal are you honestly shocked by anything in this trial ha ha ha ha ha ha 😅

[@DyslecticAttack]

​@@KitKatSukiKat yes, because expecting competent lies and competent attorneys is the basis. So even if it's been proven again and again that neither are to be expected in this case, the level of incompetent lies and ineffective prosecution continues to amaze.

[@Rashbumsmummy]

Attorney Little amazing too

[@Summeriz19..]

Jackson says “I can do it in 30 seconds… I think. Runkle says “How about 22 seconds” Hahahaha

[@ajwysopal]

7:10:59 ya missed the part where the tape was missing. You paused in the middle of the question so I think many people missed that part. Huge moment there that shocked me

[@JLynne-dg9mh]

@@RenataKleinRK Excellent observation!

[@lawnerddownunder3461]

Thats what I yelled!

[@nora__]

The fireworks happened!! 🤯 What a day. Glad you stuck with it, Ian.

[@AParallelReality]

KR ghosting BH gives a motive finally. First real motive I’ve heard in this trial.

[@ESPHMacD]

Yeah, they introduced it like it was supposed to be motive for KR, but it honestly gives BH just as much motive, if not more when we combine it with the wounds on the body and the potential causes of those... Killing over a relationship or jealousy is like one of the oldest motives in the book.

[@JustMe-h2x]

​@@ESPHMacD - that bugger BH didnt' even reply with a sorry when KR texted him "John's dead"

[@ue9r6]

Yep and when launched by a snow plow, some of John's injuries track

[@kristentrep5038]

@@ue9r6I was wondering the same with the plow! I wonder if it was ever checked for dna? I’m also thinking maybe John confronted Brian about his flirting with his girl? And maybe something went all wrong at that house? Or outside of the house? They’ve all been on damage control ever since! Brian seemed to really get anxious and upset on the stand! More than any of the others (excluding Jen McCabe, since her reactions on the stand were definitely out of control!

[@demi8890]

I thought that Jackson was being an absolute idiot when he kept asking questions about the "play fighting" that Higgins was doing at the pub, but after yesterday it all makes crystal clear sense. Brian was asking his friend for "moves" to intimidate John and to peacock his manliness to Karen. He and John eventually had words which lead to Brian texting John and asking if he was coming to the house party. John went, Karen didn't. The black eyes, the scratches? Not a car, but Brian Higgins, as well as possible assistance from Chloe the Dog and "big man" Colin Albert (who btw the internet found a video of him fighting someone, so he lied on the stand about never being in a physical fight, wonder why...)

[@NadiaVegaYT]

“This guy is an investigative tool, but not an incredibly useful investigative tool.” Uncle Runkle, you’re the best!! 😂

[@kaiserrumms]

Caught a Runkle live stream from the beginning for the first time ever here in Germany. Had to drop out after five hours and am now catching up with replay crew. God, behind that charming and suave veneer Jackson is a real savage, he's almost frightening. Should I ever get in trouble I sure hope to get a lawyer like this!

[@oliverisback5344]

Runkle, you’ve been my fave for a while. Please do more live trial coverage if possible ❤

[@missmishka8379]

Replay crew pausing at 7:01:01. I so love how the defense has pulled you & @natalielawyerchick in during lives. Seeing the vicarious thrill & "get 'em" attitude other defense lawyers have had is amusing, but also speaks to how good this defense has been. I, personally, have been called a litigious person because of how I tend to recall things others wish to have forgotten & I always have receipts so I just straight up admire both Jackson & Yanetti for how thorough, dogged & composed they have been in this trial so far. As a layperson, I can tell they're something else, but to see y'all taking notes & fanning a bit is like WOW.

[@thomascoyne157]

Nice coverage 👍👍👍👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿Manchester England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@nandtc1]

Ian I absolutely loved your coverage. I am neurospicy and I totally relate to your editorial style. Please tell me you will keep covering this trial. Tell your wife who is also neuroevolved that shes so sweet can tell by her peacefully sharing your supper. Thats 💕. Congrats shes your perfect half. Story amazing Ian they sectioned her the day of accident.

[@Ancientreapers]

7:51:12 Forget the orders. Why in a rush to get rid of your phone that didn't have a problem all of sudden? You knew it was going to be important in an investigation. Amazing that Brian Higgins and Brian Albert the two key players in all this decided to wipe and dump their phones on the same day.

[@TinaDanielsson]

I have all my old phones back to around 2007 just collecting dust in my drawers... I'm to paranoid that I'll think of something I forgot to backup the second that i get rid of them 😅

[@CharlieBlue888]

I can’t believe the amount of cop sponsored drunk driving in Canton, Mass

[@MathewMilutin]

Both Higgins and Brian Albert got new phones on the 29th of September....collusion?

[@belleslettres354]

🤡 No...a coincidence neither them nor their butts recall.

[@primalcritters]

Nooo impossible..... OF COURSE! Rehoming everybody and everything at the same time

[@CountessKitten]

Just so you know, I would always choose YOU before anyone for this coverage! You're hilarious and seemingly cooler than a Plutonian Moon! 🌚 Your laugh is contagious to me any and every time I heart it! Thanks for all you do!

[@treeze_it7800]

Love the laugh too.

[@bonesonstones1]

The choice was clear for me, too! So happy we got a whole day

[@SusanHigginbotham-o3b]

Ian love you are so perfect not avoiding what is going on media is so prosecution I am so Karen Reed before this trail I knew nothing watch everyday can’t wait for Tuesday

[@donnatripp8413]

Thanks Runkle!! Alan Jackson! Its a beautiful thing!! Some of the best cross I have seen!

[@Aj-cs6cw]

I'm SO glad we got to see your live reaction to Jackson asking Higgins if he knew what 'ghosting' is. It wouldn't have been quite the same during a recap. My jaw hit the floor 🤣

[@lindsaym7256]

This must be so terrible for her parents. This whole thing is sad. Thanks for the great coverage.

[@VictorMendez-l6u]

for her parents?? what about johns?

[@stellaallbright4750]

@user-ii2uh1xq7b -- One would assume you're smart enough to know that two things can be true at the same time, right?! 🙄

[@VictorMendez-l6u]

@@stellaallbright4750 I guess it might be quiet embarrassing for karens parents to see what a floozy she is but she is still here while John is gone, his family will never be able to talk to him hug him tell them they love him, while karen gets cheered I just cant imagine.

[@VanirTraditionalist]

@@VictorMendez-l6uso you agree with Lally’s strategy - when you’ve got no evidence to support your case pursue the slut shaming angle?

[@VictorMendez-l6u]

@@VanirTraditionalist well yeah shows her character right? chasing after all his police buddies? That night at the waterfall she approached Chris Albert asked him if she could go with him to his his pizza shop to make her some pizza he denied her then she tells john she has a head ache and is going to drop him off and go home? She was butt hurt cause chris denied her advances, he has a wife and kids this is what she has done constantly, she has problems, like deep seated emotional problems, if people from her past testify you would see, she is not all there.

[@thebeccafly]

I didn’t know you were gonna go all day, but your chat would have swept me away anyway. So I’m glad I watched and chatted at my normal home. But you are cracking me up watching you on replay here at my normal recap time. 😂 I love you, Runkle. You’re the best.

[@KeanuWhite-zn9mp]

Thoroughly enjoyed your stream today! I came from EDB and will now watch both of your coverage 👌🏾

[@michelesalter9564]

#replay afternoon session. The drinking and driving with these officers slays me, is it an arrogance that they would have special treatment? I vote yes.

[@bonesonstones1]

Absolutely, I can't believe how non-chalantly they all talk about this. Speaks volumes about the kind of department they're running over there

[@michelesalter9564]

@@bonesonstones1 Well stated and an overall observation of law enforcement there. Definitely a cultural thing.

[@tammyleeisme]

If I didn't respect you before today(I did) I definitely do after today's livestream. You are one of a kind.if I win.the lotto tonight,I'm going to be sure you reach your pro-Bono goal❤

[@Hasblock]

Amazing coverage Runkle! I love the nightly coverage but would also love it if you streamed in the mornings as well! There’s something calming about watching with you watching, and seeing your live reactions is great. Keep it up!

[@angelachristian87]

“Everyone’s ass in Canton” made me laugh out loud.

[@madeline3868]

The term masshole exists for a reason.

[@valerielevasseur8674]

Prehensile asses, one and all.

[@dajuicebar2435]

The prosecution can ask about cheating for an hour and a half unrelated to anything but the defense can’t ask about a cop that had a fist fight with the deceased? What is the standard in this courtroom?

[@Gringa_L]

Do these people ever socialize ever ever without alcohol???

[@kristentrep5038]

Ikr?? These folks seem like either alcoholics, or swingers! There’s something weird and creepy about how “close” this bunch of grown adults behaved!

[@KellieBell]

Would you be able to tolerate any of these people sober? I don't drink but I'm pretty sure they'd drive me to it.

[@kristentrep5038]

@@KellieBell great point!!

[@Gringa_L]

@@KellieBell One of the least fun things to be is the only sober person in a group of drunk people. So, no, I wouldn't. 🙂

[@valiakloeppel7252]

Yes they do- didn't you hear of all the sports events they attend for their kids. Its a great town community

[@AParallelReality]

Andrea Burkhart is a very smart attorney and has not been critical of judge Bev entire trial but she said today was a problem and today Bev sided with CW in error at every turn

[@demi8890]

You can guarantee that if Aunt Bev was an out-spoken leftist Andrea would have been more off with her the entire trial though. That's why I can't watch Lawtuebrs who are heavily right-wing because they physically cannot take politics out of every conversation or situation these days, you should have seen how her and the other right-wing lawtubers spoke during the Depp trial. Even if Heard was clearly in the wrong, Emily and Runkle were still unbiased and respectful in their coverage, unlike Andrea.

[@AParallelReality]

@@demi8890​​⁠uhhhhh what? Andrea is in Oregon / Washington area which is as left as you can get

[@bradenculver7457]

@@demi8890I haven’t watched much of Andrea until recently, but as some one extremely left leaning, I haven’t really seen a left or right bias on her side? I’ve seen her bias as a defense attorney who is skeptical of prosecutors, but that’s not really a partisan issue.

[@basicallyno1722]

@CompletelyRandomVideos lol what? Eastern and central oregon are very right wing!!

[@Cameron_F]

​@@demi8890 I've watched her live coverage for every day of the trial and have zero idea what her political leanings are.

[@feelinthepsi]

8 hours of Runkle to rewatch?? Thanks for your hard work!!

[@ItsMissShorty]

What an amazingly entertaining, insightful way to spend a day!

[@canuckproducer8446]

Late viewer. Geez, spit my coffee out on the Hit & Run thing Ian. Putting my coffee away cuz you did it again on 'Ghosted'. LOL

[@TheQuickSilver101]

There are so many things I could say about this trial but one of the things that stands out to me the most that has not thus far been highlighted by either side is the number of police and incredibly ironically a member of the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms who drink and drive all over town. Not only are they testifying to this but they don't seem ashamed at all. If I so much as think about drinking anything I refuse to drive for at least 8 hours. I don't think that's a much to ask, really. If I, an ordinary schmo who's not a member of law enforcement, can manage to follow a simple rule like that why the hell can't the police or a member of the ATF?

[@treeze_it7800]

I love Runkle. My brain works the same way, but he’s way more clever. A metaphor master.

[@annatrierweiler1722]

My uncle just died during a motorcycle accident a few days ago an I learned about it because my grandma texted the family groupchat "*name* just died" it was a surreal moment to learn it like that.. But she is was sooo distraught when I went to my grandparents house she couldn't get a word out between sobbing... KR text "john died" definitely does not show her to be cold or anything!

[@TinaDanielsson]

My grandfather is very old and living on borrowed time. I've been thinking of asking my mom to just send me a text when he passes to make it easier for both of us. I know how hard it would be for her to call me and tell me about it, and I won't know what to say at the time.

[@rondafun1]

I really enjoyed the stream, thanks.

[@ProfessorSideburns]

Loving the trial coverage Uncle Runkle, keep it up :)

[@camrygirl84]

This is my first time watching trial coverage with you and I love it!

[@donnaj1546]

As I look at all the people who think KR did this and think the CW have proven their case reminds me of the Amber Stans who still think the rest of us got it wrong.

[@primalcritters]

Yes yes and yes! I lose my mind if I read a comment trying to character assassinate Karen when all the witnesses have done nothing but incriminate themselves

[@CharredinCharlie]

Just so you know, literally every DV expert thinks Amber was a victim. Depp is a wife beater.

[@ESPHMacD]

And even if she did do it (which is debatable and should not be by Day 17), there is no way at this stage the CW has proven their case, which is their base requirement.

[@demi8890]

@@primalcritters I literally saw a tweet last night where someone commented on the texts and said "I wonder if all of the Karen fans are shocked to learn that not a hero she's just a slut" or something like that. So ridiculous. I could care less if she cheated via some flirting and a peck, it's clear that their relationship was coming to and end and at the end of the day, cheating is a bad defense mechanism that you should encourage people to overcome, it's not a crime that you should slut-shame people for. And it doesn't get rid of any of the actual evidence that we've seen - we have evidence that the McCabes and Alberts and Higgins covered up a crime, and we have evidence that Karen Read was jealous one night and then, after getting called crazy by her boyfriend, flirted with someone else via text... the horror.

[@silikon2]

If I were a juror taking notes, I would write down the witness names and "liar" beside most of them.

[@VictorMendez-l6u]

everyone lies but Karen right? 50 so odd witnesses lie, explain why they would lie? when is karen going on the stand?

[@davidreece5867]

@@VictorMendez-l6uKaren hasn’t testified

[@stellaallbright4750]

@davidreece5867 -- Neither has your mom. 😒

[@KitKatSukiKat]

@@davidreece5867 please give us proof, just one tiny thing that Karen is guilty! Just one thing! You can’t! 😅

[@belleslettres354]

@@davidreece5867I don't think she should. Defense is doing great

[@onesmallsigh]

Please cover more live streams, I really appreciate and enjoy your commentary and coverage.

[@runner18x]

Thanks Runkle! It was nice to watch a different streamer, you have great insights and I laughed a bunch. Good luck if you decide to start streaming live more!

[@xhepa.x]

I loved this live! Switched over, late, to watch Emily (on 1.5 speed) and came back to see your reactions to the rest of it!

[@stellaallbright4750]

Same! 💜

[@vickinielsen3810]

Uncle Runkle I wish the jury could watch your recaps and livesYoure awesome. Great job.

[@sunrise1201]

More lives, Runkle! You are much fun! ❤

[@HussarPlays]

What a day Runkle. Thanks for the coverage. Get some well deserved rest

[@mickey5909]

Thanks for covering the trial today! Was so glad I was able to watch with your commentary.

[@indie1179]

So much pigeon business today. Epic stream, Sir Runkle.

[@berkeleyfarm]

I'm fairly new to Runkle's streams. Would someone be able to explain what "pigeon business" is? Thanks! (There does seem to have been a lot of it, whatever it is.)

[@stellaallbright4750]

Are you familiar with EDB's "Deafcon RED"?! This is the Runkle version. 😂

[@KitKatSukiKat]

@@stellaallbright4750lol 😅😂

[@paigemprice]

So far this case is reasonable doubt on steroids, even with Judge Auntie Bev

[@strange-cow-creations]

Great watching your reaction live. I love your recaps but this was awesome

[@davidlopan7152]

AWESOME video, Mr. Runkle!

[@fairgreen42]

Great commentary as always, Runkle. 😎 I didn't realise, you were live streaming, so in preparation for tomorrow I am joining the replay crew.

[@gloriahoulne]

I loved Karen’s glee when Jackson explained the federal law Higgins broke!

[@mikesampson4028]

I strongly hope I never have to testify as to "my flirtations" or read out DMs. If I do I think I will just confess to whichever crime is being investigated...

[@kassiopiajudkins2722]

It's so weird how none of the texts have dates and times. Seems like that information would be important... It's weird that dates showed up later on. I hope we get an explanation for why that is. (Obviously I'm commenting before finishing the video.) Edited to add- "This guy should be named 'Silica packets'!" OMG, I laughed way to hard at that comment! You were spot on though!

[@belemnona]

I hear a lot of people complaining about that and all I expect is a date change which shows up. Maybe I'm missing something

[@jayman912]

I think what is happening is we are not seeing all the texts. On a new day the date will show up above the first text but if they text for multiple pages it doesn't keep inserting the date. But it will put the date again if you go several hours without talking. It makes it easy to see at a glance what each conversation in a short amount of time. If we had all the texts each time they started a new texting session we would see the dates. But we just get a page her a page there.

[@Not_your_edits]

Just watched til the end. Great coverage Runkle! I’m very excited that you might cover the Baldwin case from NM. 🤞🏻

[@PrettyFlyFor_aWifi]

Hearing someone read their cringe flirt texts in monotone is giving me secondhand embarrassment so bad! I cant take it. It reads as karen feeling insecure to me. Like, she isnt getting attention from john so shes looking for it from another guy shes caught looking at her before (brian)

[@belemnona]

Yes. Insecure. Just because she had money does 't mean she is also emotionaly all good and that is ok. She's not a saint. That's fine with me

[@Delightful_Aggression]

The amount of admitted drinking and driving by law enforcement is very concerning.

[@paulhill9495]

That is NOTHING uncommon when it comes to these thugs!

[@reviancbell]

This entire trial with the exception of the defence team has strong middle school vibes

[@DonkeKongChick]

Defense*

[@primalcritters]

Totally correct 💯💯

[@primalcritters]

​@@DonkeKongChickin that case your name should be Donkey, not Donke

[@bonesonstones1]

You're not wrong, my 13 yr old is not this cringe and mean girl-y by a mile 😭😭

[@jacquelineburns2731]

Middle school with "reading glasses" required. 😂.

[@sharithompson1672]

If the relationship was on the rocks or over entirely, there’s nothing stopping her from leaving. They aren’t even married. Why on earth would she kill him? Especially since she was already interested in hooking up with someone else? She apparently has money and another house, so money wasn’t the motive. This whole business with the texts just kind of suggests someone else did it.

[@PhysicsGamer]

It's kind of wild that the prosecution thought those would help, yeah. If anything they give _Higgins_ a motive to have done it!

[@madisonimogen6509]

Not to mention he brought his attorney with him… not suspicious at all 👀

[@SonjaHamburg]

Oh god😮! He has motif and means!

[@shawnfranke2637]

This was great coverage Ian! Well done, sir! 👏👏👏

[@antsipodtouchhelp]

Karen now knows how to give the NUMB face ❤❤❤ hearts out to ya Karen. I’m sorry your heart breaks. Give it to GOD!

[@katrinkarlsdottir]

How much trust should we put into the texts is what the jury must have been asking themselves after all that. Clearly all these drunk driving law enforcement officials think laws do not apply to them. I look forward to the expert testimony!

[@kanrakucheese]

Should have asked the tango if he was involved in “rehousing” the dog that conveniently disappeared. After that ask if (he is aware) his agency has a reputation for shooting dogs. It would be objected to, but the jury would have heard it.

[@melp8175]

Thanks on replay Ian …. So refreshing to hear your insight !

[@angiemclaren250]

I’m glad you changed the picture of Karen! I also just want to say that I appreciate your humour and commentary!

[@KookyKarelian]

Thanks for live streaming this one!! I will go next to replay crew with EDB, but it would be amazing if you would do live streams in the future, this was gold!!! ❤

[@Maggie_Murphy]

Why do the butts in Canton have more of a social life than me? They're making so many calls

[@margueritemitchell1829]

On The replay ❤from Beautiful British Columbia Canada 🇨🇦

[@jayman912]

Vancouver Island checking in.

[@janelleybean_]

O hey I am watching from BC too ❤

[@Sharon_L_W]

Side note / semi-thought-out-observation: whenever I hear about US cops dying, whether while on duty or not, it seems like that's a big deal and is handled with a special level of respect and dignity.. and any investigations into their deaths are prioritised (hard to find the right words to describe what I mean, but you know, they take it as seriously as it can get, being one of their own). I don't get that feeling at all here. It's like the opposite was done investigation wise, and all the witnesses for the prosecution are testifying against Karen as if they know for certain she is responsible. How would they know if nobody saw it, and they all heard different variations of what is being portrayed as a confession?

[@ihavequestions8914]

Because when perp is another officer(or adjacent) they get a bit sloppy. This case just happened to get noticed.😊

[@Sharon_L_W]

@@ihavequestions8914 Right? That's the only logical reason unless their department was known / can be proven to eff up every single investigation in a similar manner.

[@belemnona]

I still think the solo cups and the leaf blower was them being frustrated that the states foresics werent comming out so they did their own stupid version of investigation. From there on there might have been intentionallly biased and bad. Idk

[@PhysicsGamer]

@@belemnona Right at the end we heard Higgins admit to being in the sally-port not long before Karen Read's car arrived and had the mysteriously lost tail light discovered... including the fact that the security footage for that time period was completely lost. So it might have been a bit more active than that.

[@shannongriswold8060]

So true. I’ve heard this mentality called, “back the blue” or “blue line” or “brothers in blue.” All of our police officers in the US have dark blue uniforms. When it’s said to “don’t cross the blue line,” that means police officers don’t snitch on other police officers, they backup and support their own no matter what. Which is one of the many reasons we have such a massive problem with police corruption because the good guys keep their mouth shut, move stations, or become corrupt themselves. Police officers are also referred to as a brotherhood and so when something happens to a fellow police officer it becomes highest priority, like something personally happening to your immediate family. Police respond in high numbers to emergency situations which involve a fellow officer being injured or killed. Mentality amongst police in the US is to protect their own above all else. With this case, something happened in that house that created a situation that these two police families decided to cover for someone or multiple people. Fellow police officers also backed the blue line, not the victim, but the living fellow officers because they have some involvement in the death of JO. There is so much missing information, missing videos, destroyed phones, butt dials, corroborated stories, etc. It definitely looks like a corruption case and many police were involved. Rarely does this see the light of day which is why I believe many our so enthralled with this case. We’re all hoping for justice and exposure of all the corruption.

[@NikkiCapone]

You have no idea how much you make my day @runkle!!!! I appreciate and enjoy everything you do for us especially making us ctfu 😂❤ love you!!!!

[@gloriahoulne]

Bev speaks to the jury like they are a 1st grade class. So condescending

[@DeeKay-66]

She is very condescending! When she talks to the jury she’s trying so hard to come across as a kind and jovial person and it just looks insincere and uncomfortable for her.

[@gloriahoulne]

I don’t remember the phone calls, but I remember I absolutely did not share information. I’m sorry but you cannot not remember one but remember the other!

[@rythenx]

This was so enjoyable to watch. I really hope you do more live coverage!

[@suzieq2714]

I love your coverage of this case!!!

[@Usermemo8787]

Anyone who has ever worked for the federal government, knows damn well that it’s a federal crime to use government resources for personal use. Fraud, waste and abuse is a big issue as a federal employee. We get training on it all the time. Saying he didn’t know, is a lie! His career is over or he will be forced to retire.

[@kkbrew1854]

I’m so glad you did this. There are not too many options to watch this trial live. I like EDB but she’s a little too much for me sometimes him sometimes you just want some variety. I hope you will pick up some more days of this trial.

[@jamielovell1642]

Great job Ian!! Thanks for the stream!

[@LesleyP-vj8zb]

For a police officer the witness doesn't remember things very precisely. He keeps saying roughly, approximately, about,... Isn't he supposed to be great at noticing every detail?

[@Leeta]

Higgins did it.

[@bonesonstones1]

​@@LeetaI honestly wasn't sure what to think about this trial so far, but this witness has me all but convinced that you're right

[@Aspire2Bsum1]

I love your first date story Runkle. She’s a lucky gal. 💜 And I’m sure you didn’t have to beg!!!!😂

[@Scorpz86]

Your commentary is everything. 😂

[@DyslecticAttack]

I'm currently at the texts coming in, and oh god does this guy have negative game. Karen is considering breaking up and hints that she's on a break with John, she teases him in a friendly way, plays coy a bunch, and even repeatedly directly asks "what do you want?", and his response is "stop being so sensitive"?! Like dude, she wanted you to smooth talk her, to tell her about your fantasies, to be romantic or make her feel attractive. Yet instead you tell her to stop and neg her over the way she's flirting. Also, these text tell me that KR had some doubts about the relationship a few weeks before the incident. But there is no hint of animosity, just of exhaustion and doubt of if this is what she wants out of a relationship. She was exploring her options, and the option of this guy wasn't happening, because he's as dense as a brick and incapable of taking her hints. You can tell that she wanted to give him a few shots, to see if he could work. And that those shots fell on deaf ears, that she started to figure they were incompatible, and that she started to be less flirtatious and more "he's a friend with whom I can talk through my feelings" territory. And if anything, the one who's frustrated is this dude. I also really didn't like the "I was thinking that maybe she was weaponizing me against John". It's out of left field for me, and I don't get the thought process unless you try to fish for nefarious intent in hindsight. So saying it like your were thinking that in the moment just sounds off to me. But that might just be because I really don't think I'd ever think of that possibility. Edit: I might add more here if my thoughts change after they're all in or on cross. But at like page 62 I just felt like I needed to write out what I was thinking.

[@deaj8450]

He may even have less game than me which would be like weapons grade radioactive levels of negative game. It's impressive, I'm completely hopeless so I'm amazed to see someone equally terrible at it.

[@DyslecticAttack]

@@deaj8450 don't worry too much about it, I'm similar too. Got a low EQ and not exactly the most experience with flirting over text, so I have practically no game in most situations. But hell, even I could pick up on the intent past the "I think you're hot" text. Before that text it seemed friendly and bantering more so than flirting, with him being extremely engaged yet afraid to do anything. After that text however, even I could see the blatant prompts of "come on, be assertive. Take the lead" to him. Even going so far as to blatantly state "what do you want" when the mood was flirtatious and when sexual encounters were implied to be on the table. Yet the dude ruined the mood again and again, and not out of "I don't want to play games/I don't have the energy for this" but out of "I don't know what you want".

[@dragons_flight]

Runkle you know we live for your spice, no apology needed.

[@wendygorman1027]

His testimony is crazy but just the fact he was pretty hammered while doing all these activities.

[@virginiamorgan967]

Thank you for making me laugh out loud all day yesterday! Your reactions were the best!

[@ScarlettGraceDesigns]

I got in late but love your coverage.

[@Leeta]

It was a bad day for Brian Higgins. "Did you order the code red" Higgins: yes!!! He did it y'all!!!!

[@moriordan85]

7:46:00 So Higgins believes you can't have a substantive conversation in 22 seconds yet he and his lawyer can have a full conversation about what he should and shouldn't answer. TBF the lawyer just tells him to say "I dunno"

[@TDanos-gj8wt]

And his lawyer states it will only take 10 seconds I lmmfao can't wait for AJ to bring that up on tuesday

[@MoonDragon1]

Is Higgins on administrative leave over this? There was some things said by defense and shut down by the judge that has me wondering and than his lawyer being there. This looks so bad! I am so hooked on the craziness of the case here