Lynn Whitfield~ Backlash for marrying interracial~ why she loves playing mean women + beauty secrets

Lynn Whitfield is an iconic African American actress. She began her acting career in television and theatre before progressing to roles in film. She is glamours and elegant with longevity in the industry. She has played the beloved evil roles of every mean mom and fierce leading lady. For a while this beauty faced backlash for her interracial marriage, let's discuss.
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[@KarineAlourde]

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[@leanaam.5385]

She plays the meanest character all the time and she does it well!!!

[@KarineAlourde]

She plays it so well you end up falling in love with the mean character! I just adore this woman

[@leanaam.5385]

You really do! She is an icon for that. I don’t think anyone can play the « evil» character like her. She is the best in my opinion.

[@sheniquagreaves5705]

which character is that?

[@erind2261]

I forgot the movie - when the lady told her go to hell, she said " pls I vacation there". I gasped! 🐐

[@joshuamcdowell9745]

Except for The Cheetah Girls

[@leanaam.5385]

She is elegant, classy and beautiful! She has that mystery in her eyes! Bref, elle est magnifique

[@KarineAlourde]

She is my elegant mother in my head.. such an icon

[@KarineAlourde]

@Utajiri Y yes her eyes are my favorite feature 😍

[@PatinaEdochie]

@@KarineAlourde I’m justtt clicking this and already the first clip of Lynn reminds me of you as if she actually COULD be your Mother and then I see your comment after thinking this! Y’all do kind of resemble plus very classy indeed! 💯👑🥰

[@shannoncox5071]

@@KarineAlourde Can you one day do a story on Debbie Morgan . She is another Icon that has been on Tv an Movies since the 70s remember her on my children ..She played Angie an was married to Jessie for years on that Soap opera .. And she played in love an Basketball ...an been on lots of tv shows .

[@lillianjoseph193]

She’s gorgeous,talented,elegant woman ❤️🌺

[@aqueela26]

I can't believe she was 42 when she did A Thin Line... She looked 25!!! 😍😍

[@hurtspublishing3906]

Ikyl

[@ericabelcher8760]

IKR!!! Goodness! She definitely was playing alot of roles where she was much older than what most ppl thought she actually was!

[@sandraatkins2539]

@Norman Swann Whatever age she looked, she was beautiful.

[@Peartree25]

Yeh she's older than Martin....

[@gabriellehanks6850]

She looked mid 30's to me but still great.

[@ruthbobo218]

Lynn was everything in Eve's Bayou and blew me out the water with her Emmy Award winning performance as the architect of entertainment, Josephine Baker. If you haven't read, I highly recommend the "The Hungry Heart' by Jean-Claude Baker & Chris Chase!

[@KarineAlourde]

Oooo thank you for the book suggestion

[@DDominoGeronimo]

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@blodding]

It is a really good biography.❤️

[@nataliesasha8216]

Lynn Whitfield has a good mix of elegance, fun, but still sultry. Definitely a feminine and acting icon.

[@material-cheshirekhatter2413]

I always used to confuse Angela Bassett and Lynn Whitfield lol, I loved her in 'Thin line between love and hate' I wanted her silver dress, that she wore to the club(chocolate city), and eves bayou. It's weird people not liking her marrying a white man, if it were the other way around people would support it.

[@KarineAlourde]

They could be sisters right? Lol both so beautiful and graceful. I love that era in film for black women 😍

[@material-cheshirekhatter2413]

@@KarineAlourde I agree

[@deenadream]

The silver dress was SERIOUS 🔥 🔥

[@material-cheshirekhatter2413]

@@deenadream seriously, I need it lol

[@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302]

You know it is always double standard when it come to BW dating and marrying out. Especially a good looking BW.

[@anony1596]

Eartha Kitt said something similar about relationship prospects. So many women getting dragged for having standards

[@TheOlmonroe1]

Men get dragged too.

[@divineshine4482]

@@TheOlmonroe1 Not as much as women

[@TheOlmonroe1]

@@divineshine4482 I wouldn't say one gets dragged more or less than the other.

[@TheOlmonroe1]

@@Angel-vv9xo That's our own opinion.

[@TishB79]

I love her so much. She embodies every role of course. Lady Mae is vicious lol. 🥰

[@KarineAlourde]

Lady Mae is my favorite character she played lol so stylish and vicious

[@cynthiagipson8039]

Lord that lady mae Jesus Christ

[@iwhippedcreamcode4642]

Have You Reviewed KERRY WASHINGTON ?..... Would You!....

[@divaslm1]

She gets ostracized and James Earl Jones and Gregory Hines are still praised for interracial dating.

[@kaylad4486]

Sums up the double standards and this "community".

[@christines1821]

I always figured that black men feel just because they don’t want us that nobody else will that’s why they so mad yet they have a whole non black women 😂 shouldn’t they be happy?

[@XcuzeTheMessDeer]

Black women need to stop falling for the con. And so what is best for them.

[@lauramathews3151]

I wanna see Lynn Whitfield, Angela Bassett, Kerry Washington, and Taraji P. Henson together in a film like I think the feels would be earth shattering. They are all so soulful, commanding, gorgeous, compelling and expressive. Like they are POWERHOUSES. I want to be blown away by their magnificent magnitude. These women make me feel to the depths of my soul in their performances.

[@missvida6251]

Not taraji but the other 3 yes

[@blesbeauty1018]

@@missvida6251 what's wrong with taraji

[@VirgosGroove3]

@@blesbeauty1018 she’s a pick me, she looks desperate always talking about “black men we need you” so cringe

[@talesbyciel]

Don't forget Viola Davis

[@Lamontira]

Substitute Kerry and Taraji for Viola

[@ChristinaKaeLove]

My first memory of her was when she played Raven Symoné’s character, Galleria’s mom from the cheetah girls. 🥰

[@Aijuah_Williams]

That was literally my first thought. I’m a cheetah girls Stan. You read my mind

[@c_6951]

Same

[@keeba9540]

yesss. That is so trueee. Thanks for reminding mee

[@JoyOgbatue]

Same

[@truvy_5544]

Is it just me or she always had that vibe, then finding out that she dated out of her race Im not surprised;she set herself high and I love that confidence

[@lmiller6675]

Marrying white is not synonymous with confidence and high value.

[@TOMFOOLERY334]

@@lmiller6675 why do you think there are men and women out there that think that in your opinion? Genuine question btw

[@noproblems3192]

@@TOMFOOLERY334 we can take it back to slavery days honestly..like generally speaking.

[@TOMFOOLERY334]

@@noproblems3192 true, i have no issue with people dating out it's just weird when they are praised or praising who they're dating based on race alone.

[@ATLANTASOWNSMOOTHTMACK]

@@lmiller6675 Facts..these folks lost mentally

[@Itsmissimaaa]

Love how beautiful and effortlessly elegant she is. ❤️ Honestly I don’t understand why black women are the only ones given the responsibility of maintaining ‘black love’. No one gives black men the same energy.

[@karenmurray4608]

This is from slavery. The women had to be tough. The women had to keep it going.

[@sena1899]

Yeah I don’t understand that either I feel black women should date whoever they want

[@themostbeautifulisraw4561]

Facts! Black women have to be responsible for EVERYTHING 🤦🏾‍♀️🙄

[@datprettycapricorn]

I always thought Lynn Whitfield was so classy and iconic. She just screams elegance 💕

[@sashabell2390]

She is truly elegant and feminine. I have a new respect for her especially after her UnCensored episode And I loved A Thin Line Between Love and Hate. In her episode, she talked about her whole career and life. Also, can you do a video on Esmerelda and her culture from the HunchBack of Notre Dame?

[@KarineAlourde]

Absolutely actually it’s already recorded so be on the look out 👀

[@Barbiepenn]

Please do a breakdown of A Thin Line Between Love and Hate. Lynn slayed that role 🔥

[@pressncurl]

The hell out of it.

[@TheOlmonroe1]

Yes she did.

[@SnickerPack]

A breakdown of Eve’s bayou would be much appreciated. The style of black women and their complex stories influenced my own style heavily! Thank you💖

[@katjagolden893]

People marry for love and race should not be a big deal. I started telling my boys when they were young that you can’t help who you fall in love with. It wouldn’t matter to me for a second if they brought someone home who was a different race. They saw this first had bc my Jewish father married a woman from China. He was teaching English to school children in China when he met my step-mom. She treats my father so well. I q

[@scottieking1632]

Palepeople don't know what love really is. It just a made up word. You hate a person because of the color of his and her skin. And turn around and talk about loving that same people that you hate because they're different than you. You make us turn our love away from "The Most High Anu" onto you, by breaking his laws. And that not for us to mix our DNA with each other. We as two different beings can't come together, because someone will have to get up something that they will need to live. PBUY!

[@adrianadealmeida1472]

Beautiful!❤️🙏🏻 As a Brazilian, when I was studying in the USA, it was weird to hear the word "zebra" out of the mouths of people who thought I came from Europe! Where is written that everybody bellow Texas speaks Spanish, has dark eyes and is short?🤦🏻🙄😱 My dad is brown and mom looks like a German. My family photos resemble a UN conference! 🤗 "Who did your nose?" My answer: my parents. "How did you get this perm without harming your hair?" My answer: It is natural. They had this need to label my race! These hairdressing and make up things are huge problems everywhere. I found out (after terrible experiences with black and white hairdressers) that Jewish people are more flexible when it comes to hair and makeup. Nobody asked me if I had contact lenses because there were other hazel-eyed people there. The world would be so boring if everybody could not exchange experiences.

[@a.mp.m7340]

@@scottieking1632 Everything you said was gibberish and don't put the Lord in your nonsense.

[@scottieking1632]

@@a.mp.m7340 stop trying to push your lord of England on people. That the only lord you people in America worship. Its impossible to be a Christian without a jewish teacher. Thats who given American jesus Christ. They given you the privilege to become Christian. To follow their christ, Remember he "The King Of The Jews" and not you "Gentiles." And look at the picture of your lord, he is a jew. That who you are worshipping each day A.m P.m. PBUY!

[@a.mp.m7340]

@@scottieking1632 Again gibberish and I think some racism. Gibberish all the same.

[@laurenbthatsme]

I loveeeeee her!! Growing up I always thought I wanted to be like her. Her voice, the way she carries herself, her elegance! Pure beauty!

[@eyelovejazz32]

I am a fanatic of her. She's so mysterious, graceful, classy. She deserves more recognition then Hollywood has given her.

[@Mari-xy8zt]

She's one of my favorites along with Angela Bassett, Viola Davis, Cicely Tyson, & Diahann Carrol.

[@vanessadirakano2040]

Same. I’ve recently added Kerry Washington to my list

[@robertcanada5106]

That’s the Mt Rushmore of Actresses. I’d add in Jennifer Lewis.

[@pressncurl]

I don't blame her one bit. As a dark skin woman, I had no choice. Y'all know the statistics. LOL!

[@blessedtress]

I will never forget her role in Women of Brewster’s Place!! I also loved her and the entire cast of Stomping at the Savoy.

[@beautifulqueen4645]

I just love her she is epitome of beauty, class and talent.

[@Mack462]

This women was so great in Greenleaf! She is such a great actress. She is phenomenal at her craft! Loved 😊her in Eves Bayou as well!

[@ctruth6185]

Do a breakdown on Alfre Woodard, the forgotten actress.

[@dianabryan7421]

I always wanted to recreate her outfits from A Thin Line Between Love And Hate! Especially the sparkly dress with the shawl at the club LOL!

[@ambriahughes2855]

Could you do Marpessa Dawn Ménor she was a half black half Filipino American French actress and she is most memorable from black Orpheus too many people do not know anything about her but unfortunately she’s passed away a long time ago due to old age and a heart attack 💔she also has videos on KZbin from interviews and her singing Portuguese to me she was quite beautiful and mysterious

[@Kim63146]

I agree. Great suggestion

[@ambriahughes2855]

Yessss I love her so much

[@inah4923]

Same but her life is kind of mysterious not much info can be found

[@ambriahughes2855]

Yes I definitely agree that’s the level of mysterious I want to be😭❣️

[@curtisstewart9426]

Yes, she is iconic in many ways. She can be compared to Lena Horn and Diahann Carrol. Those two preceded her. I saw her play in the movie portrayal of Josephine Baker. She nailed that role. She played in movies with Martin Lawrence and Samuel L. Jackson too.

[@brebre23461]

I love Lynn Whitfield. She is really good at playing antagonist roles. I support her for marrying interracial because I prefer to date outside my race also due to being treated better by non-black men. My mom also encourages it because a lot of black guys now a days just treat black women bad. Its sad how its okay for black men to date outside their race meanwhile when black women do it we are considered "bed wenches ". 🙄

[@courtneypalmer53]

I have the same views.

[@deenadream]

Same!

[@krbk26]

I'm not trying to minimize what you said but girl they treat all women bad UNFORTUNATELY

[@angelofmery21]

Balance is key but I agree black woman don't owe anyone anything and deserve to be happy and not struggle and stress to death. Wherever that is black or non black do it. 🌷🦋🌷

[@Shannafai]

I definitely agree to explore other options, I married a black American man n he's great. But it's truly rare that u would find good bm. N if they are good bm they are with someone lighter, biracial or white and Latina. I definitely did explore my options, I did get asked to b married to a white man while I was in the Marine corp. But I took a chance on my now husband. N been happy since.

[@CoriNicole19EightyTree]

"Eve's Bayou" is my favorite film featuring the beautiful, elegant & classy Mrs. Lynn Whitfield!! "The Josephine Baker" is my favorite movie she starred in. Love the way she carries herself.

[@courtneypalmer53]

YAAAAAAAS, Eve's Bayou is a classic. 😁🙌 And they picked the perfect person to portray Josephine Baker. She embodied her so well.

[@CoriNicole19EightyTree]

@@courtneypalmer53 Absolutely!!

[@TheCarnivoreSoprano]

Thank you for speaking on this icon. She is truly worthy of all the accolades. I love the fact that she is mysterious. It's important to keep your life to yourself.

[@yourstrength1314]

I always was amazed by this woman’s class and beauty and at the same time her sharpness

[@TheThriftQueen]

She’s so pretty 😍

[@aleciakempton5068]

She is so very beautiful! I never KNEW she was the age she is! She was older than my parents by a year! WOW!

[@KarineAlourde]

She’s older than my dad by like 10 years and she looks younger than him 😭😭

[@TheThriftQueen]

She’s looks AMAZING! She’s aging beautifully

[@aleciakempton5068]

@@KarineAlourde yes ma'am! She looks as if she's in her 20's! I can't get over it! Lol!

[@Sunflower94H]

Stompin at the Savoy and A Thin Line between Love and Hate. I loved her in those movies.

[@QueenKim100]

I’m from Baton Rouge, La and We Love our Lynn Whitfield❤️❤️. She make us proud!! Lynn Whitfield is a beautiful and phenomenal actress. I love all her movies. Thank you for highlighting Lynn Whitfield.

[@ChassityNOubre_88]

Yes, we sure do 💕

[@LilHelena]

I’ve met and worked on a low budget movie with Lynn Whitfield back in 2012 and she is all the things you mentioned in this video. The movie is called “The North Star” and it’s actually right here on youtube if you search for it. Can you PLEASE do a breakdown of Phylicia Rashad and/or Debbie Allen?

[@h30202]

I actually had the pleasure to met her father. He was so proud of her, and he was a very elegant, graceful, intelligent, stylish, talented and friendly person.

[@NotReallyAya.]

And I loved her in Eve’s bayou , she really give smile thru the pain sooooo well on scene.

[@XiomaraThaGoddessMeow]

YEEEEESSSSS in Tarot, she'd definitely be "The Empress".

[@nadiluvmuzik1284]

Yes she is a wonderful classy actress! Been watching her for over 30 years! My aunt took a picture with her! Great lady great talent!

[@Redrougeromanticwear]

She is so beautiful just elegant and simply stunning 😍

[@marylogan6711]

At the end of Stomping at the Savoy when the movie ends with her walking off into the night..THAT WALK is sooo elegant I musta played it 10 times

[@meelamiela]

I love her so much! Such a talent!

[@MsWillita8]

Her and Jenifer Lewis remind me of each other. Do you mind adding her in the mix?

[@KarineAlourde]

Oooo yes they could be sisters and absolutely

[@ssaliormoon15]

Probably a long shot but could you do a break down on Brittany Murphy, her passing still doesn't sit well with me and paparazzi bullied her

[@cassmoon2589]

I'm so glad you did her! I love her elegance, class and grace. Thank you, thank you, thank you!💜

[@jadachoates11]

Yes Lynn Whitfield! "Eve's Bayou" was the first I saw her on screen, I thought she was beautiful. I love that she is making her own clothes, by hand. She's so classy Movies: Josephine Baker Eve's Bayou A Thine line between love and hate Madea's family reunion We know she killed on Greenleaf!

[@KarineAlourde]

Yea iconic roles

[@kaylabean3693]

Can’t forget the mom on Cheetah Girls💖

[@velvetstorm4563]

@@kaylabean3693 yes she played gallerias mom! I loved her in that role as well.

[@dianacalahorra9467]

One of the most beautiful women in the world. So graceful, classy and glamorous. ❤👏

[@daisyninetyfour565]

Women of Brewsters place was my first time seeing her as a child and I was in love with her as an actress!!!! Eves bayou is my favorite movie she’s beautiful and amazing ❤

[@humbled92_Mister]

Yes, she definitely reminds me of Ms. Diahann. She did a great job in the movie, "Stomping at the Savoy". So many leading ladies in that movie.

[@gelabklyn2475]

She plays wicked characters so well. One of my favorite actresses of all time.

[@Simplyhowiseeit]

She’s so elegant and beautiful! I love seeing women like her.

[@Lifekarmadeath]

I like her and all the movies you just mention, and I love her and the women of Brewster Place

[@FantasyIslandGirl]

I am so happy I got a notification for this video! I love her and you, Karine! She is absolutely an icon lol and thin line between love and hate is it for me 😏

[@KarineAlourde]

That’s my favorite movie too 😭

[@Marsha_Ann]

She plays her characters so well!!

[@comicgirl267]

My favorite movie with Lynn Whitfield is probably A Thin Line Between Love and Hate too. I’ve honestly never seen her give a bad performance, even if a movie isn’t that good. I also liked her in the first 2 Cheetah Girls movies and Nappily Every After. Great video Karine. 😊

[@dynamict4722]

I was introduced to her by watching “The Cheetah Girls” I felt like she was my momma.😭😩❤️

[@StrongerThanYsterday]

She really exude LUXURY!! Classy vibe

[@Sun_BaeTarot]

Well done segment on Lynn Whitfield. What a class act!

[@lorettagorden-rice1541]

Nice video. I must admit though I never heard any of the backlash for her marriage. Although I don't think it was a surprise to anyone.

[@desirre4398]

I love her 😍. She does everything so gracefully. I used to be told I favor her.

[@prettyllady]

She’s a beautiful and an Amazing Actress! 😍 But honestly I feel like they Type-casted her as the ‘Mean Women’ & I don’t like it! She’s very talented & I wish Hollywood would give her a wider range of roles to showcase her talents ☺️

[@LuvBlackDaria]

I love her in everything she does, but I agree she was perfect for A thin line between love and hate. And I love her statement to the people who had issues with her marrying a white man "where were the black men offering a better option. Well said!! I feel like too many people criticize with no solutions. What did they want her to do? Sit and wait on non marrying black men to finally come around? Puhlease!

[@p.o694]

Her voice is so soothing!

[@3RealProductions]

I agree Lynn Whitfield is so undercelebrated. She is the most graceful woman I’ve ever seen. I idolize this woman.

[@leeluv96]

If you haven't already, please do a piece on Nancy Wilson. Her class and style has always been one that I've admired.

[@Seabasstien]

I agree Nancy Wilson is another role model for class and excellence, and she was very kind to her fans.

[@robinjordan-henry9215]

Thank you for sharing about the fabulous Lynn Whitfield.

[@coopermikhael]

Beautiful video Also if I’m not mistaken I think she was on the cheetah girls

[@KarineAlourde]

Yes as Raven’s mom

[@lepoetress]

Love your photo, Ms Karine!!! You could be one of the icons you speak on. Stay blessed!!!

[@planetjoi]

Born and raised from Baton Rouge here🙋🏽‍♀️ Good to hear positive things about the city. She’s definitely an icon, I’ve always admired her beauty and grace.

[@shannoncox5071]

Lynn Whitfield is an Icon I loved her in Eve's Bayou .The Tyler Perry movies an remember the mini series back in the day . The women of Brewster place with Oprah Winfrey ...❤️ I Have a request I would love to see a story on Debbie Morgan . She is another icon that has been in movies and on TV . I would love to hear more about her life ...

[@roots4140]

THANK YOU for showcasing this iconic Queen.

[@KimiPetri]

She has always carried herself beautifully! I always think classy when I see her. I will always love her portrayal of Josephine Baker, and she was amazing in Its a Thin Line. I watch that movie every time it’s on, it never gets old! 😊

[@no-one00]

She is beautiful. Wow. This is so inspiring. ❤️💕💅🏿💅🏿💵

[@KarineAlourde]

❤️❤️💋💋

[@shedydee4962]

I don't care who she married.....I love this ICON MEGA Talented STAR ⭐⭐✨✨

[@laurielbrooks6079]

Ohhhh I just love her personality and her acting skills. Such a beautiful classy elegant lady.

[@Lolas_World1]

Awesome job! She is iconic.

[@chelsearosaya8661]

Born and raised in Baton Rouge lol Eve’s Bayou is one of my favorite movie with her in it because they shot it in New Orleans. Close to home. And I lived it New Orleans as I got older. Love both cities. Also I grew up watching Martin and it’s amazing she was on the show. So nice to see that someone from my hometown in this industry. Such a beautiful and blessed lady 🥰😍

[@theshakeria]

A Thin Line Between Love and Hate is my fav, I loved this video!

[@louisestyles879]

She's a very beautiful woman with unique and distinctive looks. She's an outstanding actress in my book. She's one of my faves also, and in my opinion very versatile, and selective of acting roles in which the characters have depth. She appears to be very unique and complex which makes for a very interesting person.

[@candybartslim846]

Lynn Whitfield is beautiful and don't worry about them haters love who you want to.

[@charlesblack1086]

Thank you. A wonderful profile. I met her and she was very kind.🙋🏽‍♂️

[@Jaedub86]

Can you please, please, please do a Tisha Campbell-Martin (is she still -Martin?) and Tichina Arnold. I love them so much! Also, if you do a Video for them, could slide image of them in the hallway with Shenaynay (& Key Lo-lo) somewhere in there. Muchas gracias!

[@AuthorLHollingsworth]

Me too. Great idea!

[@AuthorLHollingsworth]

What an amazing actress and beauty in film. She did a great job in Josephine Baker, but I loved her in Eve's Bayou. Now, we all know that black men throw their white wives in our faces. Im happy to see more black women date/ marry outside of their race. You did a lovely job on this video. Bravo!

[@Echo-tk8pz]

I love her philosophy of romance. ❤

[@carlam.crawford200]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for such a lovely review of this iconic woman! When I saw the title of your video, I almost didn't watch just because I didn't want to hear any disparaging remarks about her or her body of work, but you were so generous with your assessment of her career, and who she is as an actress and the indelible mark that she has made on the film industry as well as the huge influence and legacy that she has left to and for black women who aspire to a career in acting. Her cousins are dear friends of mine for 30+ years now, and I must tell you, for a person who has never met her, you are pretty spot on regarding her pedigree, the commitment to excellence and her family's standing in Baton Rouge culture and society. I was quite impressed with your research, it was thoroughly done. I enjoyed it, well done!

[@dreap243]

I loved her as Josephine Baker ♥️...

[@MinutesANdPrincipleslife]

Amazing actress. Very elegant woman, always has a commanding presence.

[@avianalaureano8264]

She’s just such a great actress very beautiful and classy

[@mzdelovely]

I have always thought she was one of the most beautiful women in the world! She just radiants elegance & class! 😍🥰

[@aviannachannel]

Binging your videos currently 😅😍 I love these breakdowns of icons. I don't know much about legends but I'm looking to learn about their experiences and develop myself.

[@phanylanderos899]

Karine, you working miss mama👏🏽💞🥰 I love it !!! Best content on KZbin!

[@IsabelGata]

Just gorgeous! Love her and thank you for doing this video.

[@Deedeejj]

Lynn is underrated 👏🏾

[@wmdiink6697]

I don't like your approach or perspectives but you get points for talking about these HEROES consistently. Kudos!

[@humbled92_Mister]

That comment was very nice nasty.....

[@Nini-iy7vp]

I'm from Baton Rouge, La and we love Lynn

[@cadyg2531]

Purrrr an Aquarius! I knew I always loved her for a reason lol ♒️♒️♒️