Is this the best FREE brake pedal mod for Logitech G920 G29?

[@BBGunOcelot]

I asked my wife to bring me home a bottle of wine, but she bought me a screw top. I had to go out and get a nice bottle with a cork. I drank them both, because of course I did. Now I'm too hungover to try and do the mod... In all seriousness, great work on these videos. Really helped me make my mind up on which cockpit to pick, mods for my gear, etc. Good stuff!

[@Movetheproduct]

hahaha!

[@alexiliescu3328]

Just when I thought I had exhausted all sim racing content, KZbin recommends me this nice bloke putting corks inside brake pedals. You've earned yourself another subscriber, mate. Love your channel.

[@KarlGosling]

lol cheers mate! :)

[@rakimaje8433]

Man, this is an expensive mod. I just bought a bottle of Dom Perignon...... Haha, great video!

[@KarlGosling]

lol! :)

[@brilongenecker]

Best comment! Hahahaha!

[@ark14700]

Another good free modification I found is getting a sharp knife and paring down the corners of the rubber block. Only a slight cut that runs down to half the block's length. It makes it more 'conical' which makes it easier to compress initially and makes the transition from spring to rubber block much more progressive and also makes it slightly easier to press 100%.

[@jerwatson79]

THIS!!!!

[@Nickles4]

I'm gonna give this a try when I get my G29. Thanks for the recommendation

[@jerwatson79]

@@Nickles4 I cut up a "stress Ball" from the dollar store to fit inside the spring and cut down the rubber block by 1/8 inch. And also tapered the rubber block slightly. It works great

[@geoffberteau2847]

@@Nickles4 How did it go?

[@mariano7699]

​​@@jerwatson79 : ...stress neutralised 😊

[@emesar5233]

Years ago I bought second hand G25. Modded the brake pedal with two springs and a Redbull can. The two springs are of different width, height and thickness. Slipped the thin long one into the thicker wider one and sliced a piece of the can so that it covered the travel of both springs. Slipped it in between the two springs to ensure that the springs didn't interlink. Some WD40 and have never had problems since. Some lubrication spray is needed over time. This has lasted me 100's of hours of racing.

[@KarlGosling]

Nice idea! :)

[@johnbower7452]

I personally found the most realistic feel was to take the rubber out and put a bit of washing up sponge in there. Now it feels just like my van.

[@gappie]

Great tip mate. I just used some sponge to fill up the empty space in the spring, so I now have the original rubber + a piece of sponge in the brake spring. I think it's better to do this, because the initial 75% gets stiffer as well, so it flows nicely into the last 25% with the piece of rubber. Also, you can decide how long the piece of sponge is and therefore how much resistance you want to add. Happy with it!

[@AKILASANKA]

The issue with rubber is when you are pushing hard to gain that extra 0.5 second you got to tailbreak alot. But when you have the rubber you got to focus alot on the breaks as you got to keep tye paddle hard. So i took off the rubber. And switch the clutch spring to the breaks it may sounds silly but worked for me since it helps me alot to soften up the breaks.

[@RobBob555]

lol john..

[@goncalomoura8156]

I play GT7 with a G29. In GT7 it is a little bit more difficult, because you cant adjust the travel/response of the brake pedal as you can on PC. Still, it gave me the idea to go out and start trying modifying the pedal on my own. With some sponge inside the spring and some cork and a lot of trials, I can say that you can go not tenths but seconds faster around a track, but the big difference, is of course, consistency. Thanks Karl!!!

[@pablonieto3924]

This is one of those moments when I thank my mum for having me sent to take English classes when I was a young boy. Thx, Karl! You've earned a subscriber!

[@KarlGosling]

lol Excellent! :)

[@slof69]

did this with an eraser (if you dont have a cork it works alright) trailing through pressure instead of distance feels fantastic

[@MikkoRantalainen]

Note that this mod will make your brake pedal more firm but the sensor is still the original potentiometer which means that reduced movement also reduces the sensor accuracy. Basically try to keep the cork as thin as possible because the thicker the cork is, the less accurate the sensor will be. It's really a balancing act between firm pedal and sensor accuracy. That said, it's hard to beat the costs of this mod! I think the stiffness of the cork is not important here so you could just use stack of coins instead.

[@KarlGosling]

Yes mate I cover the loss of resolution in the video.

[@alanward749]

Definitely trying this when my G29 arrives. Thanks for the tip mate!

[@ianp3112]

The only problem I see with this mod is that, you placing a lot of stress on the plastic and over time it WILL crack and break. Another easy option is to place some rubber washers or a soft piece of foam or sponge inside the spring on top of the square rubber piece. I went with the sponge option, used an old piece of kitchen sponge, about a inch or 2.5cm tall ( cut round of course but slightly smaller than spring diameter). The brake feels a little stiffer and much easier to modulate, for trail braking and such. Stack two if you want it stiffer! Cheers

[@KarlGosling]

Have you had one crack? Yeah that's a nice simple mod too! :)

[@Liofa73]

It won't crack, because cork has a poisson's ratio of zero. It's one of the few materials that does not expand when compressed.

[@theozzie8459]

Mate, your reviews and mods/setups are the best on youtube for Simgear! You do a great job. Keep it up mate :)

[@KarlGosling]

Thanks a ton!

[@raisin39]

I just took out the rubber piece and left only the spring and that works great. Thanks for the video

[@gasixteenb11]

i actually couldn't wait for your reply I did my own mod using a plastic water bottle cover instead chosing to get a firmer feel and it fit perfectly once you get the compressed air out. i went a full tenth plus faster and posted my video of the results including my Fia Manufacturers race on GT Sport done after the modifications.

[@Jakeb978]

This is so ridiculous, I love it.

[@KarlGosling]

lol I thought it was a stupid idea but I had to try it! :)

[@mateerdei1275]

This is great. Reduces the useful "resolution" of the pot-meter. But other than that this should be great. The only thing missing for me is the factory rubber piece. (G27). Really cool Karl. Good job.

[@KarlGosling]

Thanks dude! :)

[@jerwatson79]

Hey, do your research. be aware that the range of the brake pedal on the G27 vs G29 are different. Hopefully this helps

[@-fatal-]

Hilarious mod :D One additional thing to the calibration: Some arcade or simcade games (I know it's a sim channel but maybe there are viewers who play arcade games too) doesn't have a brake saturation slider, but registers the maximum value for the axis when you setup the input binding (one game I can remember now is the original Test Drive Unlimited, when you apply the pressure at the brakes it will register maximum brake of how far you put the pedals, just like the calibration in windows - without a slider). I never had a console but maybe this can be an option too.

[@yardiekenm500]

Thank you it really works well done mate and I change the clutch spring and put it as my accelerator spring feels really great

[@stylomuerto9311]

me 2 it made my life easier driving with no tc i had problem modulating my gas input in gt3 cars

[@KarlGosling]

Excellent! :)

[@gavincheung2523]

Just thought to say thanks. I did a variation of this mod with a coin and rubber shim probably 1/2 the thickness of your cork one. Slashed 3s off Monza in ACC with a huracan gt3 first outing. Cheers

[@KarlGosling]

Nice work!

[@christopherteters6216]

Maybe not quite the breakthrough your sequential shifter mod was, but a little free padding doesn’t hurt for those unwilling or unable to do a proper upgrade

[@KarlGosling]

Worth a punt for free! :)

[@Skippy-id9yt]

I removed rubber in brake pedal and replaced with an OOSHIE toy (soft squishy toy thats a little buzz lightyear) lol..perfect size ..works bloody great push pedal a bit then....... its ooshie time ....and the pedal feels closer to real life now .....its longer than rubber But squishes down to ome third the height pedal contacts sooner and has resistance for longer travel

[@KarlGosling]

Thats awesome! :)

[@Skippy-id9yt]

@@KarlGosling ha ha cheers.....I went on a bit of a comment rampage , feel free to ignore my other comments 👍

[@KhingKhezu]

I'm new into the sim world and I'm glad the algorithm brought me here

[@jcmungia5224]

I’m going to gift my wife a bottle of cheap wine to be able to try this on my pedals... 🙏🏼

[@KarlGosling]

Good man! :)

[@ezanchi5422]

Tomorrow's my anniversary and I'll definitely do this!!

[@fulanodetal9102]

A bottle of expensive wine*

[@Skippy-id9yt]

I love the brake pedal how it is , only need to push all the way in full lock up which you dont do in a race unless your crashing, it also prevents accidental lock up when cornering in Assetto Corsa Comp

[@KarlGosling]

Agreed mate, lot's of people don't like it though.

[@Azazl187]

I know that this is an old one but if you persevere with the original setup the brake peddle softens over time and works fine. This is what I've found anyway...

[@IglooCrafter1]

Thank you for giving me a reason to drink an entire wine bottle 👊

[@colinsmith2672]

What a clever mod with a wonderful side effect. ~hic~ Thanks, mate.

[@StickyGeko]

Nice cheap alternative, I've just taken delivery of the Mvhstudios progressive, spring... Its great, i can actually play F1 without ABS

[@leehaslett6402]

StickyGeko how long did you wait for that I ordered one from mark and I waited four weeks and he hadn’t even dispatched it so I cancelled the order

[@craigholmes8188]

Lee Haslett I had mine delivered a couple of weeks ago after waiting 5 weeks ish. Works a treat.

[@StickyGeko]

Ordered Saturday so wasn't sent till Monday received today,

[@revirdkcalb]

This is probably one of the best videos I have seen in a while...lmao. And I don't even own a G920 or G29.

[@StolenPw]

I respect you as a man and an intellectual.

[@fulanodetal9102]

Today it arrives my g920. I already have the bottle of wine ready.

[@paolostrada93]

Great vid. I found that having the bit of cork in there actually reduced the travel too much and just went with a coin. My question is: is the coin likely to damage the plastic that the coin is now pressing against? Not the white bit of plastic you took out, but the black bit inside the spring sleeve. EDIT: For anyone else who's worried about this - I've now moved the coin to the other end of the spring, and it's now inside the red sleeve rather than the black one. The bit of plastic the coin rests against looks a bit stronger than the one in the black sleeve.

[@999jay999]

What wine do you recommend for the cork ? :)

[@keithancajas4623]

based on my experience? the more expensive the wine, the better the result!

[@kneecaps2000]

I reckon Karl opts for a nice Prosecco!!

[@KarlGosling]

hahaha I actually do not drink wine, I'm a lager man, Kronenbourg is my beer of choice! :)

[@Skippy-id9yt]

Probably cask wine

[@preyes333]

The fact that this will require a nice drink is amazing. Thank you thank you thank you 😊 love your channel btw

[@KarlGosling]

Thanks mate! :)

[@Fretzton]

My mind is blown for how good thid mod is altho i used an erraser instead of the cork, ty for sharing this truelly amazing stuff!!!

[@KarlGosling]

Glad you like it mate! :)

[@billygames7107]

I found a nice strong fat spring at the hardware store near me. I love your idea also. New sub here! Thanx for content mate! Cheers

[@Zabby]

Watched your other video on not taking the rubber out and now im loving the feel of the brake! Will keep this in mind for the future :) Great videos buddy

[@KarlGosling]

Thanks mate! :)

[@Sighman]

So sad you missed the chance to say 'and here's one I prepared earlier...'

[@Private-Hudson]

Champagne bottle cork are ideal for the job if anyone is wondering.

[@KarlGosling]

Spot on! :)

[@chenix1465]

karl mate i think i genuinely luv you

[@oldy1740]

OMG SAME!!! I adore his t-shirts and his accent omg

[@KarlGosling]

Hahaha cheers!!

[@Kai_7901]

Love this, I’m a fanantec guy but I’m sharing this with my friend who has these peddles.

[@KarlGosling]

Good man! :)

[@TheOldLynx77]

Dammm nice MOD. My personal only problem, is that the G25 pedals dont have that litle piece of Rubber in the midle of the spring... But... Dammmmm nice mod ;-)

[@paparuffy406]

Hell yeah, a reason to drink a bottle of wine for each pedal 😉

[@JakeLewisReal]

How’d it go

[@tommydupont9824]

have to and do this today good video and super info so it may be I can reach and brake in dirt 2.0 :)

[@GTTSON]

This is awesome, next time i have some wine I'll have to give this a try! I must say it cost you .50 though!

[@KarlGosling]

I still have the 50p... it' just saved :)

[@Flobbie]

Looks like I found a cheap solution to tide me over while I wait for my new brake spring to arrive, thanks mate

[@KarlGosling]

No problem 👍

[@euanrobert6171]

This guy could definitely do kids tv show voiceovers.

[@vipanda66]

I thought you explained really well and in order., thanks.

[@KarlGosling]

Thanks mate! :)

[@danielstead781]

Thanks for sharing!! Just subscribed!!!!!

[@Toschomacher]

Thank you for the great idea Karl! Will deffinetly try this.

[@djm9937]

Karl !!!!! have you been using my kitchen knives again ?? !! Great video as always

[@kevin92foxbody67]

Nice homemade bit of kit brother...I like it a lot! 👍👍😳

[@KarlGosling]

Cheers Geez!

[@leehaslett6402]

Great idea buddy not gonna do much for me as I find the pedal too stiff as it is

[@KarlGosling]

A lot of people do mate.

[@braedonrogers5534]

Thanks for the video mr Cena

[@GazzaAyrton]

@Shippoisalegend I'm late to the party on F1 2020 (PS 4). I bought it when is was on special offer when the 21 game came out. I have them both, but as I'm the defending F1 champion with my own team, I'm having too much fun to switch just yet 😀🏁. I'm using a Playseat Challenge, along with all that INDIGO LIME have to offer to stabilise it, placed upon two gaming mats and four non slip rubber mats (all from POUNDLAND but not for a pound (£17 🤔)). Paul The Sim Racer does an excellent video of how to attach all of that to your chair if you have one, check him out. Anyway, chair now very solid and not skating across my wooden floor. Even with the pedal tray mod, you can still get "brake chair lift" under heavy pressure as Karl mentioned. You really have to know your strength or adjust the saturation/deadzone levels accordingly. That being said, I've only just switched to manual gears and non anti-lock brakes. Already seen more control, only problem is the locking under braking. Just traction control left to learn to live without. I did try the clutch as a brake for a while and eventually switched back. Sounds like a good idea putting the clutch spring into the accelerator, or alternatively put a smaller spring inside of the accelerator spring to double up. If you drive a road car, there isn't that much resistance from the accelerator anyway 🤷🏾‍♂️. Fuck me, I typed all of that before what I actually wanted to say which was that I'll be doing that mod tonight 🙈. I've also got some Teflon tape coming from Amazon (that brown stuff wrapped on the TRUBRAKE cylinderto prevent friction). Also a shot of WD40 should keep it all smooth and moistly lubed under load. Try all that, I'll report back here to let you know how it all goes. Great videos @Karl Gosling. Keep them coming 👍🏿.

[@GazzaAyrton]

Amazon just delivered, but the tape looked massive in the enlarged picture. Turned out tone two skinny ½" rolls, ALWAYS READ THE DIMENSIONS 😡🙈. Ironically, the missus has actually got some Teflon sheets so it's a result, she just has absolutely NO INTEREST IN GAMINGAT ALL !!! I'll add these sheets with double sided tape.

[@pukeoid]

Thank you for these vids tommorow on my b day im getting the G920 these videos will help me make my G920 better tysm u have another sub bro!

[@KarlGosling]

Happy birthday!

[@pukeoid]

@@KarlGosling Tysm :D

[@TheoPates995]

Interesting video mate

[@nobodyimportant7380]

These modes are really great except they make the pedals unusable on most console games. This is because the console measures the POT overall resistance, from 0 to 10K then removes 5% from the total. After that it expects the resulting resistance to be usable. If you can't push the pedal to max then you are losing brake power. Some games will allow you to calibrate, but others do not.

[@gamerclips8895]

This man looks like a combination between jhon cena and steve-O great mod btw

[@charlielima]

My wine only has screw tops, lol - Another great video Karl and top tip, thanks )

[@KarlGosling]

A trip to the shops then mate! lol

[@edteach3r]

Awesome! I love ingenuity such as this 😊.

[@TomTheSurgen1]

Karl. Your videos seem grounded and real with plenty of detailed explanation of your findings. Keep it up, I subbed straight away. Lots of us like to race without buying 2k of race rig! Can you help me? I need to by a BBJ or GTEYE mod to make my g29 more progressive. I use a play seat foldaway and although not taken apart pedals. I imagine it’s got the later stiffer spring as it’s feels ok until hitting the rubber. As I play ACC on PS4 pro my calibration options are limited. So it don’t want to limit the travel much as it will cause issues, just make it more progressive. BBJ or GTeye???

[@KarlGosling]

If it's too hard and you're on console then removing the rubber is your only option to soften that last 25% of travel as you can't easily recalibrate (I guess not all games will let you). As for springs I like the GTEye springs, the full set of three work and feel really nice.

[@TomTheSurgen1]

@@KarlGosling ok, I have the BBJ coming. was going to swap out rubber for the softer BBJ foam in the hope of more progressive feel at the limit v the rubber step syndrome. I had held back on getting the GTeye until posting here. If the GTEye brake spring allows similar level of travel to stock but more progression then I might buy that today. With the stock rubber in I have the gamma on Acc at 1.75 to get half decent feel. With Gamma at 1.00 it feels impossible to get to %100 braking force.

[@TomTheSurgen1]

To be clear it’s not to hard, I have some legs on me! it’s just not progressive enough and the rubber feels more like a stopper than a simulation of brakes at 80-100%

[@martingolding4951]

I've had my g29 2yrs now no problems the saying is if it isn't broke don't fix it this might be OK for one game but messed up for others which alot of haven't thought about

[@KarlGosling]

For a lot of people it is "broke" which is why so many mods exist, for me I also like the factory feel :) It's just the pedal feel, it doesn't mess anything up once calibrated :)

[@Billkwando]

@@KarlGosling It does for console games, many of which don't have calibration. Most of them, AFAIK.

[@drgocht]

Awesome mod 👍 😎 you just might have saved me 200€

[@KarlGosling]

Worth a shot mate, cheap and easy to do! :)

[@junaidv1989]

Great Job! You explained it very well.

[@KarlGosling]

Thank you!

[@dutchie1010]

heya karl, your awsome! ty! still not sure i can trust a man that shifts with his left hand ;)

[@SanelessOne]

Free? I mean, looks like you're out a coin there bud. Now I'm gonna be eyeing corks when I'm at friends' places

[@KarlGosling]

Think of the brake pedal as a piggy bank.. you're saving it! lol

[@StolenCarsUk]

Not a bad idea that. I uses one of the Mrs makeup sponges that i cut down a tad and it works really well. I still want to upgrade my pedals but this will do for now lol

[@KarlGosling]

Stealing one of those might get me in trouble! lol

[@StolenCarsUk]

@@KarlGosling lol it was a risky move but it was worth it. Shhhh she'll never know 😳

[@ReDorDeD]

Nice idea, one problem is in reducing the travel, you are also reducing the sensitivity (resolution) of the potentiometer as the potentiometer is set to measure the travel with the original spring and rubber. Is there still enough resolution/ travel to modulate your braking effectively? Especially with the Logitech brake curve you could find a lack of finesse under hard braking.

[@KarlGosling]

Yes, I cover this in the video.

[@skyworx524]

Nice one Karl. I'm to off before the Off license closes get that bottle of Mods .

[@KarlGosling]

lol Good man! :)

[@kendallhuskisson5801]

I've also seen this done with a rubber eraser as opposed to a cork.

[@WillMaskellTaylor]

Great videos Karl, really informative and you're a great presenter. You've got a sub from me :)

[@KarlGosling]

Much appreciated!

[@jinxed_jinxed_3443]

Top job :)

[@Iftrades]

I winder how this compares to the mod of plugging the hole and using an oring around the cylinder and grease , brake feel would be compressed air

[@d3tach3d]

got those speakers on some stands and off the floor, brother. But i guess if your closer to the floor with the playseat than they would be ear level. Nice speakers though!

[@KarlGosling]

The tweeters are ear level sat on my sofa mate.

[@d3tach3d]

@@KarlGosling that's good to know. They look really low. maybe it was the camera angle but it sounds like you know what your doing 👍🤙

[@viniciusabdoracing]

This is really useful bro!!

[@KarlGosling]

Glad it was helpful!

[@CR125MANIAC]

I wonder if something similar could be used to enable abit more firmness on the clutch pedal ? Karl that’s your next mission 👍👍

[@KarlGosling]

A stiffer spring is the easiest if you don't require a shorter travel too. the GTEye springs for example.

[@CR125MANIAC]

Karl Gosling I wonder if this method would also work for the clutch too ?

[@mkdundee4785]

That peddle looks well to stiff mate..I’m looking to make it softer

[@KarlGosling]

Remove the black rubber insert will do that mate.

[@LcTVirusGames]

I find it better to take out everything just use the spring only.

[@roysole3294]

Great vid mate but for me i don't suffer from the seat lifting i suffer from dodgy knees football days you see took its toll

[@KarlGosling]

You probably want a lighter brake pedal then! Lol

[@shippo_53]

This mod was amazing on f12020 but for some reason on f12020 can’t get past 30% brake pressure even with linearity set as high as possible

[@shippo_53]

Does actually work just me setting the saturation the wrong way round 🙈🙈

[@shippo_53]

But only realised once I’d taken cork out 🙈🙈🙈

[@TheBoostedDoge]

oh it's already Friday!

[@Egypticus]

Don't worry if you have to open a fresh bottle of wine, have a drink every time he says "Cork" and you will have polished that bottle off by end of the video.

[@KarlGosling]

Sound advice mate! ;)

[@earthwarden8548]

It's not free. You need a wine bottle and a 50p coin. JK very nice video mate

[@ЛёнчикПротончик]

Isn't a good idea, cos cork will crumble eventually, and pieces of them will kill sensors. Much better use plumbing o-ring. Yep, probably it's not free, but its cheap and make from rubber.

[@KarlGosling]

Don't worry, the cork will not kill the potentiometers at the base of the pedals! lol

[@samuraimedi4061]

thanks bro, bout to try this.

[@KarlGosling]

Have fun!

[@tatsnya]

Awesome video with everything clearly explained! I'm not from the UK and it looks like it's difficult/pretty costly to get a 50p coin here. Do you have any alternative to recommend? Washers maybe too fragile...

[@b3artn47]

So i did this last night and... well it has improved my times oddly. I'm still not as fast as others but it has improved my braking. Lol

[@KarlGosling]

Decent! :)

[@ror4y15]

Love the video, just a quick question... how did you get the white plastic piece that centres the spring out of the top black cup

[@KarlGosling]

Small flat headed screwdriver.

[@shanebutler8982]

hi karl im new to your channel is there anything else that can be used instead of a cork?

[@Roleplay78]

I think 3 50p coins will do even faster than the cork ;)

[@KarlGosling]

Big investment though mate! lol

[@Roleplay78]

@@KarlGosling anyway, thanks for the idea. It made a difference :)

[@aaronfraser2347]

For the U.S boys 50p about the size of a quarter

[@jameswu9185]

No hate here, but i dont get the point of reducing the travel, like with the rubber insert is it not already stiff enough or is it better in anyway to have it stiffer??

[@KarlGosling]

Lots of people like it as it feels more like a real race car brake pedal, they have almost no travel at all and are very hard as there's no servo assistance.

[@andymakethetea]

Great idea mate. Is that a Pioneer DJM 300 mixer in the background at the beginning?

[@KarlGosling]

It is, the 300S to be exact (silver edition), well spotted! :)

[@RobBob555]

il try a 2 pence piece cos im cheap :O)

[@kylewatson5014]

I think for this to work properly you have to put something in the red side below the spring. All the cork is really doing here is completely stopping the full travel no matter how much pressure is applied.

[@KarlGosling]

I explain exactly what it does in the video mate, you must have missed it.

[@FabrizioGallo]

Work in assetto Corsa competizione for ps4? Nice video Karl

[@shippo_53]

Karl this mod is great! Saved me money for now and improved my performance. Long term would I get any further gains from the true brake in your opinion?

[@KarlGosling]

IMO, probably not mate.

[@shippo_53]

@@KarlGosling thanks mate

[@michaelshannon6910]

Interesting concept. I am not clear on whether you're still using the hard rubber block. Essentially you're just preloading the spring, so any type of spacer should work yes? BTW, I believe I've solved the problem with the playseat challenge tipping back on hard braking..... I'll shoot you a link once I have everything sorted. Cheers!

[@KarlGosling]

I am still using the rubber yes mate and you could use any type of spacer but cork has a good bit of "squish" to it so not too hard. Yeah link it over when you're done mate! :)