KastKing Speed Demon Elite - Cast Testing as Frogging Reel

[@johnhanes3450]

You got me thinking about the difference in the breaking compared to my right handed model. I contacted Kastking tonight to see if there’s been an update.

[@rawrfishing]

Give it a shot! Never know if they have improved it since @thereeltest suggestions

[@davidpruitt5840]

I only use it for throwing Frogs but got a speed demon elite last spring i put it on a 7"2 extra heavy Defender rod by Favorite. I love the speedy retrieve i was able to get bass out of thick cover really good. And i was able to cove more water by being able to more quickly retrieve my lure after it's no longer in the strike zone. I do really like this reel. My only problem is that the breaking system is a bit of a hassle. Let's say I'm throwing a River 2 sea little Allen frog. But thin i change over to a spro bronze eye frog. I will have to make small adjustments to the breaks or i may sometimes get small line overflow. But i don't have that problem with magnetic breaking reels

[@rawrfishing]

That's why I don't like the reel. It was supposed to revolutionize the speed demon line up but it ended up being terrible. Hope they will have dynamic braking via magnets on the next one! They do have several dynamic magnetic braking reels atm

[@Fishingmissions827]

I returned my old reel and just got a new replacement. This one is much much better than the last. Idk what happened to the first one that came in but very crunchy under load. One of the shoes for the brakes broke. But the new one came in 2 days after I returned and it’s 100% better very nice reel. But would I buy another absolutely not lol

[@rawrfishing]

Welp... at least u got that fixed. I would not recommend this reel if u are not into Centrifrugal braking. Magnetic all the way lol

[@Fishingmissions827]

@@rawrfishing see I went for it cause I own the slx/ and the XT and it’s pretty similar. Well let’s just say it’s close. But I enjoy it I didn’t at first but I got dialed to throw a bitsy bug jig and a 80ft cast half OZ it almost spools it. 14lb fluro gonna use it for jigs

[@rawrfishing]

@Brent Bloom glad you have found it enjoyable! I can't seem to dial it In maybe mine is broken? Lol

[@Fishingmissions827]

@@rawrfishing possible. After about a week the brakes break in. I rarely use my thumb 4on 2 off demon eye on 3. Give it a chance. I just ordered the new MegaJaws elite I’ll let you know how that feels

[@rawrfishing]

@@Fishingmissions827 cool man! The new one seems promising

[@Ryukuze23]

I love how you do the full capaity on that reel..ita awosome to watch it and i like it

[@rawrfishing]

Likely next season ;) can't do it now that snake season is over for me

[@adamrobinson3126]

In my opinion it’s the best reel KastKing makes.

[@rawrfishing]

I haven't played with their other centrifugal braking reels yet like the bassinator. But I will take your word ^_^

[@steezyboiiii808]

Thank u for making this video! Personally I’m more of either a power pro braid or Lyn type guy and a 7”4 rod! Oh and how old was this reel prior to this video

[@rawrfishing]

thx man! this video was probably a few months late since they released the right hand reel first. left hand came and i got it immediately as I participated in the start up campaign to develop this reel

[@Scorpio_1974]

It's a learning curve that's for sure because it depends on your braid lb you have on & then your bait you have the weight of it too...So if you throwing a jumpin minnow usually a 3/8oz you got to adjust the reel to it too. So no matter what you got to adjust your entire reel depends what braid lb you have on & your bait lb...

[@rawrfishing]

totally a learning curve. I took this reel for a few spins for lighter lures.. the tuning have been so difficult as it's never consistent when you keep swapping off lures. I think i'll keep this a frogging reel on my Frogging rod! makes life easier lol.

[@Scorpio_1974]

@@rawrfishing Exactly! I meant 3/8 jumpin minnow corrected it. I have the Swimbait 7'6" and I also have the KastKing SPEED DEMON ELITE Baitcasting Reel I am also LEFTY" lol!

[@dougsparks66]

"newb" question, does regular oiling with something like Quantum Hot Sauce make much difference in cast distance? I have a 40 year old Curado that outcasts my new SDE by 20-30 feet, but I haven't oiled either, and I made the same adjustments you showed us. Thanks for the help!

[@rawrfishing]

Curado breaking system is better than kastking's, so I am not surprised if you are casting further with a 40 year old reel. Other things to consider are spool weight. Oil can possibly impact casting as well. I already retired my SDE as I wasn't fond of the braking. Was not consistent enough for my liking

[@dougsparks66]

@@rawrfishing ugh, I bought 2 :(...My fave river slot takes a major cast to get to the other side and these just won't cut it, so I'll retire them to a couple kokanee trolling rods. By the way, what are your thoughts on the spirale rods? If you did a video I will look for it....thank you so much for the great vids and post-vid support! :)

[@rawrfishing]

I did use it but I broke 3 in one season. It was good for snakehead fishing as I had powerful hook up. But it seems fragile. My dobyns is over a year old now and almost 2 and have no issues.

[@johnhanes3450]

Should the frogs with the blade on the back sink in the water?

[@rawrfishing]

Yes. It dangles on an angle. It allows fish to strike at where the hook is at rather than the head. This allows better hooksets. In addition, it pushed in more in the weedy area so the fish can actually slurp it in

[@johnhanes3450]

raWr Fishing that’s what I thought. My AliExpress one must have been too cheap. I will try again

[@rawrfishing]

@@johnhanes3450 what frog did u get? The same one?

[@johnhanes3450]

raWr Fishing It is one that looked a lot like the angry bird frogs you use. Sucker hits the water in the sinks LOL

[@rawrfishing]

@@johnhanes3450 eeps lol. Well I still sell some of these guys.. but it won't be cheap as aliexpress due to shipping, taxation and such...

[@jessehillis7830]

Awesome cast test man love these kind of videos!!! I've been waiting to see how it does with a frog a d it seems like it's going to be pretty good!! Btw what kind of kastking braid is that? I'd like to try some..

[@rawrfishing]

Thanks man. it's their super power! amzn.to/3la6L0g i use 40 but 50 is also good for frogging :)

[@jessehillis7830]

@@rawrfishing much appreciated brother I think imma try out both!!

[@robertpalma9176]

Hey what brand of line are you using?

[@rawrfishing]

In this video, it is KastKing Super Braid, but i Have converted to Daiwa J braid. it's much smoother, allowing longer casts! Try it out, i use 50 lb braid, which is equivilent to the KastKing 40lb braid diameter! sick! discounttackle.com/products/daiwa-j-braid-braided-line-330-yards-multi-color?aff=8

[@christophercaproni2529]

I'm looking to get a reel to pair with a 7'3" Dobyns fury for targeting snakehead. I use frogs almost exclusively. I'm between: (1) KK SDE, (2)Abu Garcia Revo SX-RXT, (3) Abu Garcia Revo Rocket. Which do you recommend? I do all my fishing from shore and mainly in canals w/ heavy cover.

[@rawrfishing]

I am starting this season with the sde for frogging. I like it so far with 50lb daiwa j braid x8 . I also slapped some bearings in it. Can't spool myself like the speed demon pro... but its a heavier duty reel than the predecessor. I have no comments In regards to the other two reels as I never used them. I was thinking a daiwa reel for my next frogging setup tho. 🤔

[@christophercaproni2529]

@@rawrfishing I don’t think there’s a Daiwa out with 8.1 GR or above and max drag close to 20. The zillion TW has 15 max drag but is $400. Don’t know how it would hold up with big snakehead in heavy cover. Do you really notice the difference of the 10.1 GR on the KK over an 8 or 9?

[@rawrfishing]

@@christophercaproni2529 good point... I am always down with cheaper stuff since swamp fishing can get dirty lol. If u don't mind the cheap looking speed demon pro.. swap the bearings and swap the handle and boom... far casting fast reel for snakes! Most of my vids last year for snakes... I fished mainly the frog on the speed demon pro.

[@rawrfishing]

@@christophercaproni2529 in regards to the speed... an 8 or 9 may not be too far behind the 10. But you should look and compare via the IPT instead of the just the GR

[@christophercaproni2529]

@@rawrfishing I think I’m gonna do that! Where/how do I get the bearings and handle? I’ve never modified a reel before.

[@Fishingmissions827]

What’s size line is this? I normally use 30-40lb braid wonder if I’ll be able to spool 🧵 it

[@rawrfishing]

Honestly I don't remember. I may have mentioned it in the video.

[@paulodasilva6825]

Bonsoir pourriez vous me dire si le diamètre des roulements roro du zephyr est le même que celui du spirit fox ? J aimerais passer une commande !! Merci d avance Cordialement

[@rawrfishing]

The two reels have 1 different bearings on tne Spool itself, but the side plate have the same.. You can reference my upgrade videos for the specific reels for the sizes. I never remember them :P

[@paulodasilva6825]

@@rawrfishing merci pour votre réponse rapide

[@rawrfishing]

no problem man!

[@Kornatzz]

Where can I get one?

[@rawrfishing]

Hopefully Amazon soon... but right now tackle warehouse or aliexpress

[@AgneyaKulkarni]

What is the advantage of having that high of a gear ratio?

[@rawrfishing]

Reel in faster line! Whether it is to recast or to haul a fish in out of cover. That's really it..

[@AgneyaKulkarni]

@@rawrfishing So it is purely down to preference? Because for spinnerbaits or crankbaits you would want a lower gear ratio as you have finer control over the speed of the lure.

[@rawrfishing]

It's both. Definitely a technique driving reel, but it's always going to be the choice of the angler. If it falls under the style of fishing you like, then fast reel might be for you! You don't want slow speed for flipping and pitching into cover. you want to get your lure into there and get the fish out asap. Frogging, you are on top anyway, so it's easy control. and for any other high sub surface lures, you are sight fishing anyway, so if you see blow ups and blitz, you want to get ur lure back in asap and make your next cast. pretty much what you said too. For them cranks and them treble hooks, you want it slow going and heck you may even pair it with more of a moderate power rod! What sort of fishing do you like to do? Do you do any of the things I have mentioned above?

[@AgneyaKulkarni]

@@rawrfishing I primarily do BFS fishing in London. I go for perch and pike using soft plastics. I found I prefer a low gear ratio reel, I currently use a custom T3 SV which has a 6.3 gear ratio.

[@rawrfishing]

BFS fishing should be fine with lower gears. I personally like faster speed reels in general. in the 7s is what i prefer

[@misterupload6455]

thanks raWr Fhising..

[@rawrfishing]

No problem mister

[@taufiqkamarudin]

hey bro! I just wanna ask you compare this reel with Speed demon pro. value for money and feel when you retrieve is smoother? and compare is centrifugal or magnet 9 pin more easier for light weight ?

[@rawrfishing]

The Elite is definitely smoother and feels more refined; however, adjusting your reel to cast is much more different and difficult on the Elite due to the Centrifugal braking system. You must dial in both the tension knob and brake to effectively cast lures. I have not casted any light lures yet. I think i'll leave small light lures to my BFS reels and mid size spools like my Tatula 100.

[@Fishingmissions827]

Hey man I’m in jersey. Last year I caught a 6.37lb and 5 over 5lbs in a giant public lake would love to catch you a hog. Average day is around 17-19lbs for 5 fish what’s your jersey PB?

[@Fishingmissions827]

Pb?

[@rawrfishing]

probably 6.75 but i didn't trust the scale so I rounded down to 6.25. On the bright side. it'll allow me to beat it easier than 6.75 LOL

[@Fishingmissions827]

@@rawrfishing awesome nice one! I believe I have the catch on my page here.. Thankfully I had 2 separate scales both said 6.37-6.40 so almost 6.1/2lbs 22.25inches long. On a swim jig.

[@Mr.JonaVelazquez]

I think this reel shines on pitching technics, no needed long distance

[@rawrfishing]

Perhaps it will, but I was hoping it will be my upgrade for frogging as I used it's predecessors for frogging. Unfortunately it does not do well and changing lures is like pulling teeth to get it dialed in again. I have officially retired this reel.

[@chittaranjanmahato7830]

Sir,Reel Price???

[@rawrfishing]

Not sure. I got it with a deal.

[@rudyverdin2285]

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[@rawrfishing]

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