Katie Mitchell introduces Come and See | BFI

[@ZoggyWoggyII]

When Florya is running to the island and the girl looks back to see all the bodies. That is life changing man.

[@alexden7714]

@Poop Poop Did they make photo or accumulator faoled?

[@jasonfenton8250]

@Poop Poop Is a discussion about a film showing the genocide of Belarusian people really the appropriate place to bring up the "BuT bOtH sIdEs" rhetoric?

[@estefanbredel7220]

@Poop Poop he call it "eastern Poland, but it was occupied from Poland after they attacked Ukraine in 1918.

[@justme2012lena]

Poop Poop Lwow was full of nazis itself. Western Ukrainian nazis were in Hitlers army and killed their own people, polish people, and so they do nowadays in Ukraine as well. Shame on you!

[@GabrielKruize2003]

@Poop Poop Yes, and after the stacks of dead and mutilated bodies were found in the former NKVD prisons of Lwow, parts of the innocent Jewish population of Lwow were massacred by Ukrainian nationalists, German dead squads and local crowds in two pogroms...

[@mellonudrigle6217]

I understand her absolute commitment to the film. I first experienced "Come and See" at the Filmhouse in Edinburgh in the late 1980s and was completely overwhelmed and astonished by it. After the film there was a Q&A with an old man, who lived locally but came from the region seen in the film and had lived through the events portrayed in it. He started by simply saying: "the reality was much, much worse"

[@justme2012lena]

😢😢

[@lukeconzo]

Very sad but heartbreakingly true.

[@redwater4778]

It's a work of fiction

[@lukeconzo]

ice water Yes, it’s characters are fictional. Still, the story is realistic to the historical events that happened at the time. I still understand your point, though.

[@dickthebirthdayboy2132]

@@redwater4778 The events based on it are not. Fuck off.

[@Epiousios18]

As a descendent of Polish refugees. Thank you. People need to know know what happened in the East during WW2. Even if they don’t want to.

[@xition25]

this film makes the pianist and schindler's list seem like fairy tales

[@PromokashkaSP]

For >20 millions of soviet people this is not only film,but brutal reality.

[@rafaelviana6276]

You can watch Come and See here twitter.com/f834e71041c3bd271/status/822784381513105408

[@TheElmar27]

I think come and see equal to shchindler list.

[@robertwill23]

Schindler's list is just manipulative entertainment garbage. Pianist is a little bit different. It has artistic qualities.

[@henkerify]

correctly

[@ravensmead1558]

it is very hard film to describe but i'll try , harrowing , dreamlike , raw , nightmarish …..with that haunting aeroplane overhead . it's not Hollywood .

[@illUploadForyall]

I think that's what makes it so good.

[@randomnepali7772]

@Veruc so basically it's a plane that's meant to literally be all like "Uhu what's this?" (I do not apologise for that uwu joke)

[@shaov.vreacts1339]

Hollywood is pond scum!

[@Navukhodonosor]

How so much laughs through all the presentation?

[@georgetware2098]

One of my favourite films yet I would never want to watch it over and over again. She's got it spot on. The film is extremely underrated and that's what makes it special

[@ReligionOfSacrifice]

TOP 35 FAVORITE MOVIES 1) The Scarlet Pimpernel (1982) 2) It's a Wonderful Life (1946) 3) The Prince who was a Thief (1951) 4) Narnia: the Lion, the witch, and the wardrobe (2005) 5) Let the Right One In (2008) - Swedish with English caption 6) A Silent Voice (2016) - Japanese with English caption 7) My Rainy Days (2009) - Japanese with English caption 8) X + Y [a Brilliant Young Mind] (2014) 9) Silence (2016) 10) Beauty and the Beast (2017) 11) Goodbye, Christopher Robin (2017) 12) The Man who Invented Christmas (2017) 13) The Scarlet Pimpernel (1934) 14) Amen (2002) 15) Red (2010) 16) Fletch (1985) 17) Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) 18) Men In Black (1997) 19) Star Wars: the Empire Strikes Back (1980) 20) Star Wars: a New Hope (1977) 21) Back to the Future (1985) 22) X-Men (2000) 23) Mannequin (1987) 24) Life is Beautiful (1998) 25) Schindler's List (1993) 26) The Passion of the Christ (2004) - Aramaic with English caption 27) Interview with the Vampire (1994) 28) Pan’s Labyrinth (2006) - Spanish with English caption 29) Midway (2019) 30) Paprika (2006) 31) Johnny English (2003) 32) Cinema Paradiso (1989) - Italian with English caption, shorter version, not extended version 33) The Man who Killed Don Quixote (2017) 34) Measure of a Man (2018) 35) Come and See (1985)

[@georgetware2098]

@@ReligionOfSacrifice Yeah Jonny English is a banger

[@nicolelawless9942]

I watch it over and over when I feel like I want to cry

[@justme2012lena]

I remember being a kid during Soviet time we were taking to the cinema to watch this film by our teacher as part of our education. One of our classmates couldn’t watch it any more and wanted to leave, and one older man told her “sit down and watch! You cannot watch it but they lived through all that!” I remember those words for the whole my life.

[@DJ-eg1zg]

The older man was a complete asshole then.

[@DJ-eg1zg]

@Russell Bentley Yeah right. Carry on defending child abuse you POS

[@sergividal661]

@Russell Bentley says the one insulting behind a screen

[@raavaolinorman6518]

@@DJ-eg1zg Its not child abuse to make people understand the pain that other people have gone through so people can know what it is and what it means and to avoid these things in the future.

[@justme2012lena]

Raavaoli Norman Thank you, that’s exactly what it meant.

[@creekandseminole]

Once the tinnitus hits the boy the soundtrack takes a turn and never stops.

[@mosilflutil10]

Yes , I forgot about that , it’s a big part of the onslaught on the viewer

[@Алекей-к1ч]

One of the best films about tragedy and sacrifice of Soviet People during the World War II. Absolutely horryfying and hard to see, but must to see... Come and See...

[@GosokuRyuYodan]

The operative phrase being Soviet "people." The Soviets themselves were bastards, and the Nazis had nothing on them.

[@ЕгорСтрельцов-м4ч]

@@GosokuRyuYodan I think 15 million civilian Soviet People (including children and elders) killed by Nazis don't agree with you. And I am too.

[@matthewct8167]

One of the best films that shows that war is the worst horror one could imagine

[@noheroespublishing1907]

All glory to the army of workers and peasants; all glory to the red army!

[@77777Dasha]

@@marat184 i guess he knows a lot of western propaganda.

[@paulcheney4114]

Life changing piece of cinema. The soviet experience of ww2 seems to be ignored so this should be mandatory viewing

[@noheroespublishing1907]

The eastern front of the second world war was where more horror and heroism has never been seen; we forget that it was the Red Army that liberated a majority of Nazi death camps.

[@noheroespublishing1907]

@Jared Jams I'm an American was well, but I will correct you on one thing, it's not Russians, it's Soviets, as russia was the largest of the Soviet republics, but not the only one; the film Come And See is telling the story of the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic; basically it would be like one of our single states in the United States. I don't mean to nitpick, it's just that there really is a big difference between modern Russia and the Soviet Union; for all it's faults the Soviet Union was more humanitarian than modern Russia.

[@noheroespublishing1907]

@Jesse Caballero Neither is the United States, what's your point? We firebombed Tokyo and Nuked two cities.

[@anafogler2276]

@Viper Actual Did USSR attack Germany? You need to separate politics from lives of common people. You comment is implying that USSR started the war and occupied Europe as well.

[@АлександрДухин-р3ц]

@I Remember My First Kill This is an idiotic delusion. The USSR introduced troops into the territory of western Belarus and western Ukraine on September 17, 1939. At this time, the Germans had already occupied almost all of Poland and the Wehrmacht troops were already in Brest and near Lviv, and the Polish government had fled to Romania. Churchill writes: "The fact that such an agreement was possible marks the depth of the failure of English and French politics and diplomacy over the years. In favor of the Soviets, it must be said that it was vital for the Soviet Union to push the original positions of the German armies as far West as possible, so that the Russians could gain time and gather strength from all parts of their colossal Empire. In the minds of the Russian red-hot iron imprinted disaster that suffered their army in 1914, when they rushed to attack the Germans, not yet finished mobilization. And now their borders were much more to the East than during the first war. They needed to occupy the Baltic States and most of Poland by force or deception before they were attacked. If their policies were coldly calculating, they were also highly realistic at the time."

[@falckeredet]

Was at this movie tonight. I have been reflecting all time after, what words can l put on it... A fantastic movie is too easy to say, without describe in what way. It’s a movie describing the horror of war and violence in a very directly way! No cliches, no theatrical drama, its honest, clean of shortcuts. I will never forget these scenes. All people should have seen it, even it’s though. Was and violence IS though! World leaders should have been forced to watch it several times until they realized how horrific war is! Period

[@markfelts1128]

Watched this film 1st time yesterday, it's just knocked apocalypse now of number 1 in my personal top 5 movies.

[@jhonezcronic]

this IS NOT a movie it's an EXPERIENCE.

[@avikatt]

Brutal.. Authentic.. Surely one of the best films ever made.. So vivid it depicts the human soul on his way to hell

[@alekseialeksei8623]

"the reality was much, much worse"

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Indeed it was and it would be too much to show how bad it was on the screen. Besides it wouldn't get past the authorities who certify movies for viewing.

[@PizzaPlatypus]

Absolutely incredible, gruelling film, interesting comments, thank you.

[@sail6800]

Thank you, Katie! You make the world a better place when you comment this movie with so much wisdom and passion for life changing movie! I feel so good when I see that there are people like you, Katie, who appreciate so deeply the depth of humanity. Thank you for being so sensitive, so passionate, so loving and so professional

[@septimuswilkinson8489]

Great introduction by Katie Mitchell. This film is 'art'. You cannot say that about 99% of film and TV. I do not know of a better film than this. It is hard to watch but rather than trying to entertain you, it seeks, and succeeds in changing you. That is what art can do.

[@anatolanatol3511]

through mimesis to catharsis. Translation from Greek - through suffering to purification

[@bradgolding6847]

This is THE most powerful war film ever made! Only a nation that suffered the full brutality of the Nazi invasion could make a film like this. The invasion of western Europe was bad enough but what Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine suffered beggars belief. Everyone should see this film at least once in their lives, particularly the politicians who make war possible.

[@colezebrowski9077]

Poland was hit the hardest 17% of us died which is the highest percent.

[@orangeyewglad]

And Poland...

[@lukeconzo]

Sadly, we won’t get any movies like this anymore.

[@vileguile4]

I saw this movie during a bipolar mixed state episode. It's hard to describe how much this movie affected me. She's spot on. This is the Lacrimosa of movies. I've watched it once. Tried to watch it again. As it gets worse and worse i can't stand continue watching. This movie causes a dopamin high due to the intense emotions it agitates.

[@игорьигорь-ш4р]

for ordinary people,war is a horror and a nightmare, and for those who start it, it is a way to earn and enrich themselves,They do not care about the suffering of millions

[@sammythemc]

"I expect a few people to leave, it just gets worse and worse." Everyone who's seen this film can relate to her "no really" in response to the laughs

[@mariehelena2364]

The least these people can do is stay. They're just an audience. You can't handle bearing witness to a movie depicting these events?? Makes me kinda angry. Family was in Poland/the Home Army. What a "privilege" to walk out of the theater. 🙄😒

[@jatinderdevgun9093]

It shook me to the core.....a real wake up call

[@fredlandry6170]

This movie shows how horrible it was the Russians suffered terribly. We Americans have no idea what it’s like to have our cities bombed into rubble and over 20 million dead.

[@justme2012lena]

Thank you Fred! And I really hope your country and any other country in the world never experience anything like it.

[@noheroespublishing1907]

My respect to those soldiers and citizens of the Soviet Union who suffered that invasion; their heroism should never be forgot or besmirched. If it were not for them, the world would have been a much darker place.

[@elmaster7465]

No you don't but your country on the other hand committed genocide against native americans and crammed the few remaining ones into wastelands that no one wanted which you call "reservations". But no one's gonna make a movie about that.

[@adonisantinouskee7595]

America killed 100 million genocide.

[@badas45]

Stalin killed 20 million of his own people before Hitler even came to power....war is hell, a war on your own people is worse

[@andym28]

Movie haunts me and changed me a bit as a person.

[@vodkacannon]

Because you did

[@miguelvidal2335]

Movie broke my soul

[@smakkmakk8118]

the hardest part for me was when the girl was walking back covered in blood i could never watch it again yet it was one of the best movies i have ever seen when i saw that girl walking back it was just like a punch in the gut

[@dilanmian7956]

@@smakkmakk8118 The scariest things in movies aren't jumpscares or in-your-face scares, it's the suggestion or implication of certain horrific events that are the most effective. Like that poor girl coming back beaten up with a metal piece in her hurt mouth hints that the Germans put it in her mouth to keep her from yelling while they did what they did to her. Its terrifying.

[@Voidhanger100]

@@dilanmian7956 That metal piece is a french harp. It was there not to stop her screams (because why?), but to make them sound funny.

[@tofilazaro1500]

I love how she talked about Come and See. I agree to every word she said. It's a film that will make you remember every scene, every sound, and every feeling.

[@giggling_boatswain]

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[@jakedanx]

Insane film. Some of the wide shots that would normally be close ups, make it feel like a documentary. Incredible.

[@garyweglarz]

The most amazing film about war I could ever imagine. So far from the Hollywood romanticizing of war by turning it into some sort of "heroic' struggle - rather than, as this movie does, showing war as the barbaric activity that it actually is.

[@bencarlson4300]

Most war films are trying to show the necessity of destroying evil aka “the enemy”. Come and See does this as well, but less so to condemn the Nazis than to condemn humanity’s penchant for violence as a whole.

[@curtc2194]

Watched this masterpiece a couple nights ago for about the 6th time. Rips your heart out at points and gut punches you at others. Go and see Come and See...one of the greatest war movies ever made!

[@kixr1]

are you a serial killer. be honest

[@DireAxis]

I am very cautious to recommend this film to anyone, I hope that others can properly appreciate it but hat appreciation can come with a punishment. This film strips something out of you, an unseen or unnamed thing. I can understand why Klimov found no motivation to do another film of any sort, this is finality on screen.

[@highflyinryan76weezer25]

Here's a few interesting facts I've learned about this movie. 1) All of the German uniforms, weapons, equipment, and vehicles ( except the recon plane ) are all real genuine German gear captured by the Russians during the war. 2) LIVE ammo was used in almost every scene involving shooting and explosives. 3) The scene involving the cow is 100 percent real :(

[@lovesalsa]

I can tell you the forth one. The people , who were in the scene in church, were real people , whos relatives were experiences that nightmares of war. So director said that it was real panic and they didn't expect that. People really wanted to get out of that place, but by scenario it should be locked. So you see the real panick, not acting.

[@aerofil11]

I read some interview with Klimov about how movie was made, the cow was dead before they filmed the scene, I was thinking and was worried about the same thing as you about the cow :-/

[@nenad-seguljev]

thay take real uniforms from museum depots.

[@dariogreggio7981]

not at all, the vehicles were post ww2 soviet vehicles that were modified to look like german original ww2 vehicles.

[@jeepamir508]

You know what the scariest part about this movie is. It's that it was only a one single incedent in a much broader war. Which means there were more villiages, cities, places like this. No more words needed

[@77777Dasha]

more than 600 villages were burned down to ashes in Belarus. Many other crimes were documented in our countries like executing all the disabled children from an orphanage, burying people including women with their children alive, using children as alive targets when exercising in shooting and so on. And this film doesn't show all the atrocities commited by the Nazis. I read an interview with the director where he mentioned that when he studied the documents he decided not to show the most terrible things in order not to shock the audience even more and also the film might have been censored and forbidden for the wide audience.

[@jeepamir508]

@@77777Dasha, yet what he was able to show us is shocking enough. He didn't want people to go nuts from watching a movie

[@77777Dasha]

@@jeepamir508 agree

[@yotony0]

No movie has hit me in the solar plexus like Come and See. Extraordinary on many levels. An absolute masterpiece, but oh so horrifying and brutal.

[@lawriewelch8979]

The film is about what happened in Belarus. Specifically carried out by a special SS Brigade known as Dirlewanger which was composed of criminals expected to die fighting. They specifically engaged in the activities shown in this movie. The movie is testament to the attrocities which are still carried out to this day in conflict areas across the world. It is a brilliant movie. Once watched you never forget it. For further understanding read Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder

[@michaeligoe3935]

Himmler wanted them disbanded but the commanding officer was out of control. Shades of "Apocalypse Now" and Conrad's great novel.

[@arsenal-slr9552]

@@michaeligoe3935 Just shows you how bad they were if even the god damn SS of all people were repulsed by their actions

[@Роман-о7ш2о]

@barrett402 The one you call " S " created a country whose people could only be stopped as shown in this film.

[@mrvk39]

Oskar Dirlewanger was the commanding officer - a guy who was convicted of child molestation and who raped countless little girls in Eastern Europe. His unit was truly the worst of the worst. When Nazis' fortunes reversed in 1943-44, they tried to put that unit on the frontlines and it crumbled - they were good at raping little girls and killing civilians but couldn't fight real men. After that collapse they were used exclusively to terrorize civilians. Oskar Dirlewanger was captured by the French who handed him over to Polish soldiers... there was little left of him there - they tore him to pieces.

[@elenagamora448]

For critical thinking I'd recommend "Blood Lies" by Grover Furr

[@polherverolland]

totally unberrable, but yes you have to see and to know what this WW2 really meant. In france we have a village called oradour sur glane where the nazi killed everybody by burning them in the church. When I was a kid I knew about this story and I've seen pictures of the burnt house and ruins and everything. Only these pictures gave me nightmare at that time. I've see "come and see" at the age of 40 for the first time, and this movie made my nightmares real. After such cruelty and horror, what can we do? what does it mean the vengeance, is it worth it ? What if someone tries to come back to humanity, to forgiveness, instead of still increasing to madness and violence and hate ?

[@michaeligoe3935]

Polo, I read about Oradour as an Irish teenager. It saddened me very deeply. Haven't they preserved the village as a war memorial ? When I first saw "Come And See" I remembered the story of Oradour.

[@smugprout5698]

C est l une des meilleurs visions du nazisme qu’il y ait. Peut etre u. Peu trop « exterieur » a la chose. Mais c est vrai qu il faut que les gens le voient. Apres ca, plus personnes ne pourra etre aussi naif sur cette guerre, sur ce que c etait. Comment les gens peuvent comprendre si on ne leur montre pas ce film ?

[@NikolayIvanovichLinux]

@Poop Poop Думаю белорусы тоже помнят кто жёг их.

[@andreyblinnikov9874]

You should read about siege of Leningrad... This will complement the idea of the atrocities of Nazism.

[@badas45]

Don't forget Stalin killed 20 million people before Hitler even came to power... All totalitarians are evil. its quite sad every one knows Hitler was bad while Stalin gets intentionally overlooked

[@anuprashpradhaan]

After watching this film, I am writing article about this film in my mother tongue. This film is masterpiece.

[@fridaythe13thpartx]

This movie broke my heart.

[@jorgeanguas9220]

One and only one, casual, late night cable viewing I did of this movie, some time ago. It has stayed with me. I've been to internet sites and Utube analysis and all that. Must say the village massacre makes the 30 most agonizing minutes in film history. That much. And since childhood, I have 44 years of movies in my eyes.

[@tuningkz]

Thank you Katie Mitchell. From all my heart!

[@Ingsoc75]

The yodeling sounds combined with the drunken Einsatzkommandos was always chilling.

who says Germans don't have a sense of humour ..concentration camps positively rang with sadistic laughter

[@JoePesciBallsack]

That bit has really stuck with me since I first watched it. It's an insanity that you never see get tapped into in Hollywood films, the only time I've seen something like that (on a less harrowing scale) was in Apocalypse Now when the helicopters are blasting out Ride of the Valkyries as they shoot Vietcong. That twisted juvenile hellish aspect is ramped up to full in Come and See.

[@SgtRocko]

I saw this in a Soviet cinema in 1985. It stunned the audience. There's no Soviet propaganda, no pure-spirited Red Army ra-ra... just brutal reality. A long story, but in the 1990s I fought in Bosnia during the maelstrom of horror and violence that occurred there. Moments of Come And See would hit me from things I saw & experienced there. Since then I've re-watched the film and dear G-d it is the closest thing to actual war there is. I totally agree with Katie that this is life changing. My PTSD hits dramatically after I watch it. This is a powerful, incredibly important film. It's a masterpiece.

[@robreich6881]

I feel that even the Soviets were afraid to explore the reality of what had happened in the wake of the war, even though the Union was the primary victim of the European theater. The Marxist-Leninist narrative that “late stage Capitalist imperialism” made the war happen and that German workers were fellow victims of Fascism just could not process the reality that it was really a national and ethnic conflict, and those German workers really did want to destroy them. I don’t even think western Liberals really are comfortable with it either because Nazi racial policy towards Slavs makes the Jim Crow South look like a country picnic. Acknowledging the racialized brutality of Nazis towards non-Jewish “White people” doesn’t fit their narrative du jour either.

[@masterblaster848]

Where you involved in crimes on Serb population such as these presented in this film?

[@Koldeman]

A minor but important correction: it is NOT Glasha who is gang-raped by the Nazis. It's the mother who was dragged away from the barn by her hair during the fire scene. The last time we see Glasha is when she says goodbye to Flora when he leaves the island with the doomed raid team. That doesn't make this movie any less powerful or disturbing. It's a horrific & life-changing masterpiece.

[@kremesauce]

I’m let down in a way that she says she’s only seen it twice. The main character experienced this all in a few days and there were still years left and the director ends the movie with real footage saying that the reality was much worse. This movie deserves a repeat viewing yearly.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Katie Mitchell's point was that it was such a profound experience for her that she wanted the strong initial memory of it to stay with her instead of the less intense feeling she would feel with subsequent viewings. And she went on to say she couldn't imagine seeing it now since she has a daughter. And a man cannot possibly see why she feels that way. Also I would add that I would never judge a person for only wanting to see any movie especially this movie only once or twice. I'm 67 and have only seen it twice.

[@petesmith9475]

She is spot on about this masterpiece.

[@juliendunand6409]

Masterpiece. Because of the 1.33 format and the steadycam it reminds me of a great Kubrick film.

[@titokarawera25]

That fixed camera wanted to make me climb out of my chair , but forced me deep into it and I couldn't get away,

[@Alex-cw3rz]

I not trying to be rude but there is only one main Character and that's the boy, therefore the sound is only from the perspective of him. Also the Girl is not the same girl as the end it's just another girl.

[@dje1944]

Correct!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sayno2lolzisback]

I almost made the same mistake as her until I double checked online. The girls do look quite similar and Florya does echo the first girl's lines to the second girl ("to love... to give birth"). But the woman has watched it twice and is a professional so I don't know how she ultimately got that confused.

[@sayno2lolzisback]

@JohnnyGotHisGun I think I last remember seeing her dressed like all the nomadic refugee people. The ones who make the effigy of Hitler. I'm assuming she stayed behind while Florya continued his crusade after accepting his family's death.

[@gyloir]

We don't know what happens to Glasha, the last we see is her staying with those people that they met in the marshlands so one can assume that she is still with them.

[@franjay5585]

Brendan Duncan i think i read somewhere that it was a conscious decision for them to look similar

[@yermektoleubayev]

Oh, wow! you people know this movie? For me this movie makes step aside the questions of heroism, communism, patriotism and etc! for me it's like - war is horrible, unacceptable thing!!!

[@jimisi7424]

This film and terry gilliams brazil always take me to another place. Just stunning

[@Raao1]

The ending of Brazil made me so sad when I watched it for the first time. The realization of total despair.

[@billpolychronidis7805]

i love Come and See cause its not a movie about ww2 but a movie about war

[@ПавелПавлов-б6з]

Do you understand why we celebrate Victory Day in Russia every year?

[@safespacebear]

I've watched it once. I'm hoping to watch it again. I thought I'd watch this first to see if I could bring myself to do it again.

[@uj8348]

Just so! Addendum: I knew a couple of NF members years ago, had this film on video and gave it them to watch one night... Next day they both quit the NF!

[@2fun55]

JJ What is NF, if you may answer?

[@uj8348]

Far right political party in the UK (Nazism/racism/skinheads back then, probably toned down these days):)

[@5Cd2]

Klimov would have been very happy if he had knew that his film had such an impact in at least two or three neonazis. Wonderful addendum.

[@nedstarkravingmad1799]

It would be a shallow, erroneous, and biased view that the point of this film or the reality of the world is that this horror is unique to Fascists. The Left, Islamists, and many other regimes commit similar atrocities.

[@justme2012lena]

UJ I didn’t realise this kind of thing could exist in the UK. Thanks for answering.

[@vitaliysaffatel7881]

The Americans are creating Marvel, Star Wars, and the rubbish they call movies. Russians make far fewer films, but what they do themselves, without focusing on Hollywood, not to make money at the box office, but for themselves, are masterpieces. "Come and See", "Stalker", "War and Peace", "Quiet Don", "The Island" and hundreds of other films that almost no one outside of Russia knows about. For Americans, cinema is simply a way of promoting and earning money. For Russians (especially in Soviet times) it is often propaganda too, but also real art, which, unfortunately, is becoming increasingly rare. I really hope that Hollywood will finally decay completely and the mass audience will begin to show a real movie made from the heart, and not as a background for devouring popcorn and flirting in the last rows of the cinema.

[@swrennie]

"The Painted Bird" would be a good bookend for this movie. It should be seen, but it's hard to see again. Like "Dear Zachary: A letter to a son about his father"...

[@bryanholden1558]

Beautifully said

[@Querens]

I can't watch it for years and just hang around reviews and read comments so when finally I'll start watching it, it wouldn't be so tense

[@kixr1]

It won't make the slightest difference

[@lostintime519]

The most beautiful scene in this movie is when the boy and the girl are playing in the forrest.

[@chrislovecchio7958]

Yes, this film makes 'Platoon' seem like a mel brooks movie. If you can watch it more than once, there is so much , on so many levels. I am no film professional or cinematic expert, just a fifty year old movie fan. Nothing stated about this film is an exaggeration or being overstated. Kept reminding myself, "remember its a movie" watching it; and yet, that's how terrifying the reality is of what is taking place. All natural lighting; she says it simply - The Sound Alone Is a Masterpiece. Nothing is wasted, every image, every scene, every sound, is all connected, which sounds cliché, but is completely held true throughout the film. The destruction of the village is on such a complex level ,symbols ,images, and especially, EVERY SOUND, which all might seem like chaos, and yet, nothing is actually hap hazard or happenstance. Again, a second or third watching, and listening will reveal all the depth, connection, from certain scenes to others. The Birds, the plane, the whistle, the monkey, the fuerher effigy, and the motorcycle, which is one long shot, uninterrupted, setting a tone a belivability, the dual possibilities when he leaves/ is taken from home. Yes, live ammunition.

[@demidevil666]

I've just finished watching the film for the first time. To be honest, because of all the hype surrounding it, I expeted it to feel a lot worse than it ended up making me feel. Stellar acting, screenplay, and direction, to be sure. But it didn't overwhelm me emotionally as I expected that it would.

[@michaelorleans5396]

A remarkable film..disturbed me greatly..spot on

[@maria.5974]

Same Katie Mitchell who staged 'Alcina' by Handel? Very talented.

[@madmodder123]

Criterion remaster comes out at the end of June!!!!!

[@edgarivyvbkbms8497]

This movie was so tiny else . AMAZING

[@shakes6415]

The film is a masterpiece that a woman could never replicate because of the trauma faced with making a film like this. It will be viewed centuries from now because once you see it you can never forget it.

[@zztopz7090]

There's still people that insist that Stalin was just as bad as Hitler, some even claiming that he killed more of his own people than even Hitler. Of course, it's always people who not from that part of the world who say that.

[@justme2012lena]

Who is saying that they just uneducated, brainwashed people. There are so much lies about Stalin. I even not sure when his name is going to be cleared as most of the people are sleeping comfy in those lies.

[@noheroespublishing1907]

@Ronnie Cheshire Stalin and Hitler were not allies, never were allies, they signed a nonaggression pact, and that was after Stalin had asked the United Kingdom for a defense agreement that if German invaded Poland both the UK and the USSR would intervene with their militaries against the Nazis, the UK refused Stalin's offer, and so, to delay what he saw as an inevitable conflict and save lives for a time, he signed the nonaggression pact, if I was a world leader I'd do the same, by my army time to continue constructing armaments before one of the most militarily powerful countries came for me. Hitler literally outlined the enslavement of the Slavic peoples and racial genocide when they proved no longer useful, Hitler used the term Jew and Communist interchangeably, along with the term Cultural-Bolshevism, Stalin and the Soviets knew full well they were on the chopping block. They were not allies, what ally invades and murders over twenty million of their fellow cooperative's population?

[@dragontheknight272]

@PuraguCryostato kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqS6iIJqrp6Zbbs watch this video. It will give you better ideas about Stalin. It's not just black and white in the world.

[@olgaluna6447]

@Ronnie Cheshire Nice... read Svetlana Alexievich dissertation and her books written in the Soviet period on Dzerzhinskii, a revolutionary who established the secret police in the early USSR. She really admired him!!! In some of her writings she promised to bring her child to the place where he was born and to raise her child in the best traditions of the Soviet country. Read her book (a very good book, by the way, much better than the one for which he received the Nobel Prize) - The war doesn't have a female face. Again, a Soviet propaganda in a way. I don't want to say that what you are talking about is complete lie. Many things really happened. However, you rather know bare information but not what stands behind it. For example, Stalin did order special forces to kill on spot those who tried to run back from the battlefields. It happened in the life-or-death, win-or-lose period when the Nazi were ready to take Moscow. Watch The Panfilov's 28 film, maybe you will understand more. Besides, not millions or tens of thousands people were killed as you probably think. Brutally??? Yes!!! This was brutal time. You cannot wear clean white gloves in the state of war. When you say that Stalin allied to Hitler, don't forget that way before most of European countries had non-aggression agreements with Hitler or even peace or collaboration acts such as Poland, Italy, Romania (since early 1930s). Stalin did his best to ally with European countries to stop Hitler (France, England), but they refused. When Hitler took Czechoslovakia, Stalin asked to give the Red Army the corridor through Poland to defend Czechoslovakia - they refused. He had negotiations with England and France to jointly confront Germany - they refused. So.. many things you mentioned were true, but you forget the background.

[@ОрленкоАнтон]

@Ronnie Cheshire The document said that, according to the data available in the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, for the period from 1921 to the present, that is, until the beginning of 1954, the OGPU Collegium, NKVD troikas, a Special Meeting, the Military Collegium, courts and military tribunals were convicted of counterrevolutionary crimes 3,777,380 people, including to capital punishment - 642,980 (see: State Archives of the Russian Federation (GARF). F. 9401. Op. 2. D. 450). How do you like Elon Musk !?

[@barrycollins795]

Oh my god I want to see this film. I’m thinking of buying it. Does anybody have any links to where I can watch this ?

[@tuningkz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5zOe42tmr6Ugqs

[@tuningkz]

with different languages subtitles

[@elenatorello]

You can watch it for free right here, in KZbin.

[@bassaddikt89]

This should be retitled 'Katie Mitchell spoils several scenes from Come and See'

[@BOBofGH]

Weird gripe, but why does she keep referring to teenagers as "very young children" and "little girl"? Also does she think the woman that was raped was Glasha? That wasn't her. The last time we see Glasha is in the middle of the film.

[@futurecultleader3060]

A mothers perspective probably. Not sure if she has kids herself but you'll hear that kind of stuff from mothers up until their kids are well into adulthood.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

@@futurecultleader3060 Katie said during the interview that one of the reasons she couldn't watch the movie again was because she had a daughter. Course this is two years after your comment so it seems silly to say that.

[@futurecultleader3060]

@@michaeldeierhoi4096 I hear you. Been trying to get the strength to see this film again but it's one of those, it's an emotional strain...maybe in a couple years..

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

@@futurecultleader3060 I totally get that. Come and See affects people differently and I would fully understand why a person would never see or saw it once and never again. I just saw for the second time which was very different from the first time which was kind of indescribable.

[@Obadiah50]

The whole film moved me, but scene of the cow...a simple animal. The best film on war I have ever seen, period.

[@roman9598]

I hope that anyone who has seen this movie will finally understand why this war is also called the Sacred war for every citizen of former Soviet republics

[@sharpacid]

And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

[@gregofcanada4494]

Super hard watch, but a necessary one. I'm glad I saw it.

[@ComptGeorges]

As someone from Yugoslavia, I always find it irritating how little the rest of Europe knows about us and often put us and fairly distant Russia in "the same part of the world" just because we are predominantly Slavic. But in fact, ex Yugoslavian borders are equally far from Russia as are from UK.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Most people have a poor sense of geography.

[@Mikevdog]

The movie was well done. I watched it a few times and enjoyed it.

[@yuvrajsamala6611]

The last time felt like this from watching a movie was when I watched clockwork orange

[@jacobstanton8241]

Man i watched clockwork orange and saló prior to this but they couldnt have prepared me

[@futurecultleader3060]

One flew over the cuckoo's nest also had a similar effect on me, not many things in life make me emotional. But these 3 movies are just...something else, impossible to ignore.

[@lukeruzinsky6436]

A plea for peace...

[@markrowe5992]

a Wonderful talk about a deeply impressive Film.

[@wheelman1324]

Come and see, and behold a Pale Horse. And the name who sat upon him was death... and Hell followed with him.

[@davidchirot1937]

many thanks for providing the quote of opening lines of Book of Revelations, which i always hear in my mind intoned by Johnny Cash on one of his last recordings saw this film a few days ago and still in shock--made me see again memory images of my American Indian ancestors, everyone in their area wiped out, with only great grandma surviving. in poland i heard horrific stories which have never left me a strange word to you--LOVE--but i loved this film--an incredible wprk of art employing sound and images in the ways of only the greatest poetry--i think am still numb and hard to express--thank you to all for your comments--

[@wheelman1324]

david chirot I like how Florya seemed to physically age from a happy, healthy young man to a walking thousand-yard-stare.

[@nickbirkhead7238]

criterions new disc is also region b, but bfi should put this out for the UK

[@jackfahy2283]

I would've payed good money to see crowds reactions to the Church scene at the end.

[@conorfurlong]

I think you’d have to have never seen a war film to walk out of this film. It’s a brilliant film. Disturbing obviously, but far from the most disturbing film I’ve ever seen. I think anyone can and should watch the film.

[@nutsackmania]

It's very disturbing if you have empathy which you clearly dont psychopath

[@patrickwcowley]

⚠️SPOILER ALERT!! Katie Mitchell SPOILS the film, giving away So Many Key Details which make it so extraordinary to witness... I'm so glad that I didn't watch her interview before seeing the film, she would have ruined the experience. Other than that, it's a great interview, i just feel sorry for the audience members who just learned about the key moments. I will say, it is comforting to hear from Mitchell about how this film is life changing, it absolutely it. Also, it is absolutely remarkable how this film has forever changed her work. I had a difficult time after waking up thinking about what I saw and being reminded about it in the smallest ways, like I too had witnessed the atrocities. But maybe that's why this film is so unique, today I found myself reminding myself that it actually was a film, that I didn't see a documentary, because it feels like you are right there... How prophetic that this is happening in Ukraine right now, with "Putin's Liberators", raping, torturing murdering innocent people...😓 It reminds me of that quote spoken by Arnold Schwarzenegger I'm Terminator 2, "it is in your nature to destroy yourselves." For real though, I looked into how to deal with PTSD trauma after this, even that rapid hand moving in front of your face stuff to help change the horrible memories Accelerated resolution therapy (ART).

[@geoffdearth8575]

Why don't you show a clip of it since admittedly few people have seen it?

[@nutsackmania]

You don't just watch a clip of this movie you fucking charlatan.

[@MrTomfooligans]

It's only $2 to rent on Amazon Video. Maybe one or two dollars more to purchase. Do it. You won't regret it.

[@geoffdearth8575]

I actually own the DVD of this. I made the comment for the benefit of others who have not seen it.

[@bunkerbill]

Geoff Dearth it should be released on blu-Ray.

[@firewalkwithme2539]

Great introduction. Only thing is the film is seen through one set of eyes. Not two, as the lady suggests. It is important to make that distinction as it is the whole point of the film.

[@mrvk39]

As a Russian who was born in the USSR, towards the end of it all (when, not coincidently the movie was made), I appreciate it became it's not filled with Soviet propaganda. Almost ALL Soviet WWII movies were filled with up until that point - be it Soviet heroism or spectacular victories or even worse the Soviet ideology that won that war. But this movie is a true anti-war movie. There is none of that in it and that's great. Just a little side-note to put it in its historic context.

[@sergeyshevchenko7675]

Please, do not spread lies about Soviet propaganda here. I lived in USSR for 30 years. Would you call films like They fought for their country, Trial on roads, Liberation, 17 мгновений весны and many others as the propaganda??!!

[@mrvk39]

@@sergeyshevchenko7675 of course! a ton of propaganda...all the glorious NKVD agents and commissars and not a peep about all those executed....

[@sergeyshevchenko7675]

I do not want to argue with you (whoever is hiding under the letters markv1), as from the hatred of the USSR, you must be the descendant from one of these collaborators shown in this film.

[@mrvk39]

@@sergeyshevchenko7675 hahah yeah ok! what you have is called schizophrenia with paranoid delusions.

[@sergeyshevchenko7675]

@Algirdas Urbanavicius Fuck you mate...

[@ruslankbr5243]

Being soviet kid I was afraid of this movie

[@Sen-115DK]

It was supposed to be scary and scare us all. I was also shocked and scared when I saw it recently some months ago.

[@skobiekilla]

Saw it. This film is a fuckin trip. The realism is incredible and terrifying.I didn't know how this got passed the Soviet censer.

[@RidlleForest]

it's don't passed easy. First they say change the name. They had to wait eight years for approval from Soviet authorities before the film was finally produced to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Soviet victory in World War II.

[@Camelwrestler]

It took the director like 10+ years to get the script approved.

[@demoonk420]

In USSR we watch this movie on the school time.

[@jimisi7424]

This and they shall not grow old should be shown in all schools for 16 year olds and up

[@ottomatic3123]

Does anybody know where I can watch this movie with English subtitles, or better yet, with English overdub?

[@iainwilliam3187]

Its on youtube now

[@Sen-115DK]

There is Come and See movie with English subtitles on KZbin. And nope, no overdub.

[@АйдарРахметов-я4у]

SweRRR 88 «The Dawns Here Are Quiet» great Soviet movie.

[@Davey-Boyd]

That is a great movie too. Though it is Soviet Propaganda film, though taking it for what is is, still a great movie.

[@АйдарРахметов-я4у]

Davey Boyd it’s not Soviet Propaganda. Many Soviet woman’s was true Heroes! From my country Aliya Moldagulova was a Soviet sniper. Moldagulova was credited with killing 91 enemy combatants in her career. Died 14 January 1944 (aged 18). Soviet Heroes Manshuk Mametova. She killed more than 70 enemy combatants in her final battle. Died 15 October 1943 (aged 20).

[@Davey-Boyd]

@@АйдарРахметов-я4у I agree with you about Soviet Women. Just look at the heroic female anti aircraft battery that delayed the German initial advance into Stalingrad. They fought until the end. But I still think The Dawns Here are Quiet is a propaganda film, but that does not detract from a great film.

[@АйдарРахметов-я4у]

Davey Boyd 👍👍👍

[@olgaluna6447]

@@Davey-Boyd Depends on what you understand as ''propaganda'. Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's list then are propaganda movies too.

[@bman6065]

I think a lot of people get it wrong comparing it to other movies. It's it's own artistic expression and can't really be compared. Much of the violence isn't really shown. It leaves a lot to the imagination.

[@AikanaroSauron]

What are these people laughing at?

[@RubensBarrichello.]

Ive seen it twice but was invited to a screening of it coming up. might just come and listen not see

[@LionMemento]

Why are they laughing

[@paulcrombie9623]

One my favourite fims, it was hard hitting, it brings home to us about war is about, film sorry.

[@perlefisker]

"Every inch of it is almost unbearable" (laughing)..."it just get worse and worse" (audience laughing). I tell you something: You are unbearable, and fearing this is getting worse and worse, I can't watch more. But why not make a serious interview about one of the masterpieces of cinematography, a real life-changing film? Is it really that difficult in the Western world to find a serious person talking about the horrors of war?...(could at least had tried not to laugh!)

[@bobsbigboy_]

Wtf is wrong with you, racist?

[@smugprout5698]

Yeah, it is possible to have western people have a realistic wiew of war. Just dont ask those who never had a war on their soil...

[@Konoronn]

@@sayno2lolzisback Who ever mentioned white people you idiot? Russians are white. He said 'Western', that doesn't mean white, it means part of Western Europe or nations descended from it (such as the US, Australia, etc.). If you're African-American you're a Westerner and just the same know nothing of the horrors of war.

[@ricardolujan5571]

Best war film ever.

[@GilbertNeal]

I am asking this question and i want to say SPOILER ALERT!!!!! Please read no further if you haven't seen ths film.:::::::: IS the girl with the whistle the one who was dragged off into the truck during the massacre or was she the girl at the beginning of the movie ?

[@salmonetesnonosquedan8345]

The girl from the masacre

[@GilbertNeal]

@@salmonetesnonosquedan8345 Sheesh. I want to see again.

[@fredlandry6170]

The director used real ammo in this movie no kidding.

[@sidDkid87]

in a word: *traumatic*