Kazuya Schmovement and Electrics (Elite Smash Full Game)

For those who wanted to see a full game, here is one shortly after changing my layout so I kinda defaulted to my BnB which is movement, Electrics and movement into Electrics. Though I was feeling my movement this game too, I have mostly practised this stuff into Electric, so that is definitely my goto. Which is not the worst option I guess... but critique away. Still gotta work on my air game, jumping, platforms etc. it's hard on this new layout, so I am still making changes to it.
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[@starter497]

Definitely use back tilt out of a wave dash cancel more. It is a much more stronger neutral tool. Dont be afraid to wave dash cancel into your falling nair when your opponent whiffs and have to respect you. The weakness with wavedashing into electric is that electric inherently has poor range and doing so will be a commitment. Backtilt solves these issues. Ive learned over the time that wavedash electric is more of a whiff punisher than a neutral tool. This is hindsight but will help you be better at optimizing combo if you analyze it but at 0:55, think of options outside of falling nair when the platforms are nearby. You can choose to end the combo with jump down B or RAR Bair. Additionally, you can go for a footstool combo. You were NOT in a position were you can tech chase so wavelanding wasnt an option since you had to read their DI and then noticed that it was too late to waveland, but figuring out how to maximize your combo in every scenario will always make you a better player. Now if you really want to do an "optimal" combo there, falling nair to electric wouldve been way better than falling nair to dick jab. Why? Their percent will be less AND you will land a grounded electric vs aerial electric. This means that they can almost not DI at all and the combo will not extend further in the stage like the dick jab. This will prevent your opponents from getting to the platform as much as possible. Unless Byleth automatically pancake ducks on landing from the nair, falling nair to electric is almost always preferred until you reach a percent where upsmash will kill requiring that extra 13%. Now for the match specific tips. Your opponent LOVES to downtilt out of whiff or minus frames. Wavedashing electric is not that bad BUT you have an arsenal of tools that will destroy that mix up. Falling nair, dash attack, wavedash back tilt, and even wave dash cancel upforward A. If you have options that can or avoid the move more than electric, I would suggest you go for those options. The choices describe has a higher chance of avoiding the downtilt since electric s starts only on the upperbody then once the electric appears, the entire body is for a brief window. This means that you will only beat his downtilt during that small window of full body . This match demonstrates how a kazuya match has to be played. Your opponent can pretty much spam their neutral tools without thinking much since they have low cooldowns and generous hitboxes whereas kazuya has to be more calculated and choose and time his options against them. Most of these tips are just in hindsight but just being aware about them will automatically make you a stronger player. Other than that, movement was clean, consistent electric inputs, and good whiff punish game.

[@ViedViper]

Great write up! I've definitely been trying to wavedash into different buttons, still trying to get the muscle memory down on some of them especially c-stick left and right since I just changed those on my layout. I'll be sure to focus on back tilt and as I side note I really want to focus on my movement into Tsunami Kick since I think that will be powerful since it can AA well and beat a lot of low profiling while being able to lead into big combos as well. My combo game is awful with platforms an just moving to/with them in general is bad. With my layout for like Ryu/Terry I use to be able to IDJ RAR Bair xx turn around Shaku with Ryu, but with this Kazuya specific layout i still struggle to do a lot of the basics. So I am definitely going to practice and look into that and make any changes necessary. That's a good a point with the crouch jabs, they do move the opponent char quite a bit. I'll be sure to keep that in mind to help avoid platforms. Yeah I noticed a lot of players try to low profile Electric and I have definitely been blown up for it lol. I've been messing with a lot different option too including upforward A, as well as wavedashing into sweep, Tombstone Crusher and crouch jab. IDK how good Tombstone Crusher but that move is so satisfying to hit lol. I think I'm going to implement Crouch Jab more which is also a bit easier and more rewarding than Tombstone Crusher anyways. I've had my fun with Tombstone Crusher time to move on :( ( I still think it's kinda good lol) Thanks for the advvice and tips! I've been trying to implement a few things you have mentioned already and I'll make sure to start and work on the others. Just doing my best and trying to build my Kazuya up piece by piece by piece. Slowly but surely lol

[@dansu1503]

LOL gonna use crouch jab way more now that I know its real name. Been learning a lot from you and ViedViper, keep up the great content guys!

[@starter497]

@@ViedViper for RAR bairs with kazuya, the input is unique. It took me a while but you can always land the strong hit if you react to their DI. Kazuya double jump RAR Bair is input sensitive. The best advice I can give is run, turn around, jump, NEUTRAL on the analogue stick, and then double jump Bair. Controlling the double jump momentum is imprecise so it's much more efficient to turn around jump behind ur opponent and neutral double jump Bair. Also to prevent that low profiling situation from happening at low percents, I generally choose 1 of 3 options. The first one is just to complete the ender at low percent with a jump down B. The second choice is to assume they are gonna choose a bad option and just falling Nair dick jab to beat their aggressiveness. Lastly my favorite is to footstool to late nair to electric. This garuntees I get my opponents into medium percents to falling Nair demon God fist avoiding the low profiling issue.

[@ViedViper]

@@starter497 Ok that really helped me get RAR Bair and IDJ RAR Bair on my old layout and I can bair going straight up or with momentum so that's cool! I just need to remember to let go of up because up + c-stick left/right still gives me up air and I never had that problem with any other char before. That's with Tap Jump on, I still do not know what I want for my Kazuya layout. This is like the last thing I need to get down before it is pretty much final I feel. Yeah I've been falling nair more and it seems pretty good. Lol I'm no where near footstool combos yet, I need to learn to jump more lol, but I will keep that in mind for sure.

[@leobaek2513]

Love the movement and consistent electrics! Hellsweep is my personal choice for a lot of up close grounded interactions but not every kazuya is the same, great stuff

[@ViedViper]

Thanks, I defiantly do plan on trying to implement Hellsweep at some point. I think it is quite string to and has it's spots for sure. Just so much to learn lol it easy to get a bit system overloaded.

[@justinvitug832]

The way you move in and out of his range is immaculate

[@ViedViper]

TYVM! I thought that this was one of my better games showcasing that. Still working on it!

[@incomingcalls4073]

super underrated, keep up the good work man. at this point you're on track to be better than riddles lol

[@ViedViper]

TYVM! If I keep grinding and Riddles keeps playing other chars, maybe one day lol

[@adomali87yearsago.71]

WOOOP MY CALL HAS BEEN ANSWERED I WILL NOW BEGIN MY STUDY OF CROUCH DASH THANK YOU

[@Umbra.-]

ViedViper has a really good video on his kazuyas crouch dash! be sure to check it out!

[@adomali87yearsago.71]

@@Umbra.- i have watched everry video on the planet about CD, I’ve asked every question on kazuya discord

[@ViedViper]

Yeah and recently you have Vendetta tweeting wanting people to optimize Crouch Dashing more, iirc Riddles tweeted something about CDC back being really good or something and people like me and RoninX have been grinding this stuff for a while

[@Kat-ru4ej]

Jeez your the reason I stay maining kazuya, still getting used to crouch dashing but definitely see it improving. I'm wondering if using pro contoller is a alright choice?

[@ViedViper]

Thanks! Yeah a lot of people play Kazuya on pad. Ferps one of the best Kazuyas actually plays on pro controller iirc. Though he is betting a box in about a week or so now...

[@ViedViper]

I'd say my Ground game is about a 7/10 and my Air game is 1.5/10 lol For my new layout I changed my B to where my A button is on my other chars layout. So I was still getting use to it and you might see odd things like taking 5 seconds to shield grab at 1:17 cause I was mashing B :/ Edit: Oh and I really like my movement at 0:12, felt real crisp, hopefully I make stuff like that my norm.

[@robertmeneguzzo235]

So i take it the jump cancel thing is pretty good?

[@ViedViper]

@@robertmeneguzzo235 Which jump cancel thing, you mean jump cancelling out of Crouch Dash?

[@robertmeneguzzo235]

@@ViedViper ye

[@ViedViper]

@@robertmeneguzzo235 I still think it is pretty good, but I have not been able to do it too much lately cause even on box when switch from tap on to tap off it became way harder. But I might just need to work on my layout more :/

[@robertmeneguzzo235]

@@ViedViper hey, if there was any kazuya that could make it work id put your name before riddles. Keep up the good stuff 👍

[@Focus_20SF]

Ligit wavedashing at the beginning damn! You’re using up and back on the left stick to immediately cancel the CD in place?

[@ViedViper]

Thanks! I think it was a combination of N, DB (Hold to crouch) and either DB, N or N, DB (quick release) with the occasional CDC back. I haven't really implemented up back into my game yet, but I have seen RoninX and Riddles use that one a lot and is definitely a CDC I want to try more of.

[@zestyasfuck]

On your rapid high speed dash cancelling vid you mentioned you use smash box. I just put in an order for mine the other day. Would you consider making a video on the box itself and how it applies to kazuya overall? p.s your movement is so fucking smooth

[@ViedViper]

100% I will once I am satisfied with my layout. I am still constantly changing it and I don't want to lead anyone down the wrong path. But once I am happy with it and feel like I won't be making any more major changes to it, I for sure will. My layout for Kazuya is very specific for him, but I might have a layout video for my other chars (Ryu/Terry) out before that is closer to that standard layout. and Thanks! :)

[@ricardofranca6752]

You should implement some more cdc shield/spot dodge, other than that the movements looking real nice

[@ViedViper]

Yeah for sure! I can cdc instant spot dodge well, I just need to learn when and where to implement it. I really want cdc to instant shield more, but I can't it to well atm, I might need to bind another shield button or find a button sequence where I can do it consistently. Thanks!

[@Speak2Soon]

i will NEVER understand how you crouch dash that fast.

[@ViedViper]

this video here goes over it more kzbin.info/www/bejne/roWneWSwe6hri7s just got to work at doing them consistently

[@xen04]

You have a discord or social media I can follow? I would really like to play you 😄

[@ViedViper]

oh yeah, I only have twitter atm and I forgot to add it in the description lol. I've been planning to get back on discord recently, I've only used it very briefly so I'll look into that. Yeah for sure once that taken care hopefully I can get some games in with a bunch of people. Even better would be if I could get Yuzu and Parsec going!

[@cubeislife1675]

your wavu wavu looks so slippery

[@ViedViper]

Thanks! been grinding that since week 1!