Do I Regret Getting Headers For My Dodge Challenger ScatPack?

[@KCars]

Anybody else running this setup? What are your thoughts? Thanks for watching!

[@johnaccurso3135]

I am running the same exact setup on my 2018 Challenger Scat Pack.

[@KCars]

John Accurso awesome!

[@MBballer2]

No longtubes. Im running full straight piped exhaust. Factory manifolds, catless midpipes, res and mid muffler delete. Its pretty loud and sounds bout the same as yours. The gas smell honestly is not a big deal, not bad at all. If you want your car ear bleeding loud. Get a cam, youll thank me later

[@KCars]

Marc Be Hoopin that definitely saved you a lot of money if it sounds about the same, and I agree the smell doesn’t bother me that much either. Cam would definitely be insane and it’s something that I’d like to do in the future, thanks for watching!

[@glleboy2233]

Marc Be Hoopin that’s how I’m trying to set mine up I just don’t have the money for long tubes. Did you need a tune ? And do you have CEL ?

[@shawne7228]

On my 2018 Scat Pack shaker, I put long tube headers 1 7/8 Kooks Headers, and High Flow catalytic converters. It was slightly louder and tougher sounding than stock but not too loud. Basically it was perfect. Your Scat Pack is a bit too loud for my taste, but I'm old and when I was your age I had loud cars. So I completely understand

[@KCars]

Another advantage of your setup is that you’re still legal with cats and don’t have to worry about inspection. I’m sure it sounds awesome, thanks for watching!

[@goldenaxl]

Said basically the same thing, when I was younger, the louder the better. Not anymore...

[@shawne7228]

@@KCars when I bought my Scat Pack, 2 years ago , I watched your channel and I decided to buy Kooks long tube headers. I got a tune and throttle body and I made 464 horsepower at the wheels on a Dynojet.

[@SimonSez83]

What's the ig ?

[@shawne7228]

@@SimonSez83 inspector-general? Actually I have no idea what you mean. Sorry if I I'm a little dense

[@sinfulscatpack3960]

I remember back when straight pipe and loud as possible was my thing. Now I enjoy my challenger being able to be nice a quiet on trips and let the active exhaust open it up when I'm in the mood.

[@KCars]

I think everybody car guy went through that stage lol but it’s nice to have the option of not loud all the time

[@booniekc]

Bro I like how u explained everything all the video clips and the differences. Sounds good.

[@KCars]

booniekc thanks!

[@SHAKER36]

I’m straight piped, and just went catless! It is amazing how it opens up the monster inside 👍🏁. I agree with shaking the block 😎

[@KCars]

Shaker 36 definitely sounds insane!

[@goldenaxl]

When I was your age, I wanted my cars as loud as humanly possible. Made a habit of running around with open headers on my 70 goat, the neighbors were NOT amused. Same thing 15 years ago when I would uncork the 540 in my 800+ HP 69 goat and drive around setting off car alarms for fun. My personal record was 7 in less than a mile. These days in my mid 50's I want my Mopar to be stealth and quiet the vast majority of the time. If I did anything, it would be to add electric dumps so I could raise hell when the mood struck me but go back to stealth at the touch of a button.

[@KCars]

That would definitely be good for the stealth that you’re looking for, I just like to be loud all the time lol

[@goldenaxl]

@@KCars So did I man...even up till my early 40's. Now I just want to cruise quietly (but still at very high speeds) and listen to some Pink Floyd or Zeppelin. When I finally get around to dropping in the Procharger kit, hopefully next month, I also want to be able to hear the whine of the blower!

[@KCars]

goldenaxl that will be insane!

[@landoninahellcat8745]

Great video man! Very descriptive with good information. Just ordered headers for my Scat as well. Take care👍👊

[@KCars]

Thanks! You won’t regret it!

[@landoninahellcat8745]

@@KCars thanks man! I hope so.👍

[@Shaker392]

I have the same car as you and I’m doing looks LTH with their high flow cats after this winter is over. Looking forward to it!

[@KCars]

Sweet, enjoy it!

[@aragureghian724]

I am smiling here because "that is" what I use to do with all my cars! Now, still a teenager but at 74 my 19 Scat Pack Shaker 6 speed manual with the active exhaust in track mode sounds perfect! Yet... as you say, we get use to it! So, instead of just mid muffler delete what do you think of "Dynomax Bullets" instead? I am looking for something a bit more throaty. I must say however that the active exhaust with the flaps open sounds pretty sweet. Keep up the great videos. 👍

[@KCars]

ara gureghian I’m not familiar with the dynomax bullets but I was happy with the sound of the mid muffler delete. And then of course the headers made it sound insane. Thanks!

[@mikereeves282]

Dynomax bullets are a great option.....same as mid muffler delete but without the raspiness. Very cheap to get and install

[@craigslue]

Usually when you get major exhaust work done the exhaust will stink for quite a while! I think my truck stunk a good 6 months or longer before it got better. Give it time it will get better. If it smells like gas you have other issues.

[@KCars]

It smells like gas because I don’t have cats

[@NickB2Blessed]

I don’t know about the “smelling like gas” part 🤔 8:02

[@KCars]

NickB WitTheRT it’s not too bad lol

[@DJGRoc]

This is due to not having cats. Engine may also be running a little rich if it's smelling like gasoline.

[@Fitteds4dayz]

Great video! Should I save up for kooks? Or is it fine getting BBK? About a $600 difference

[@KCars]

I’ve heard kooks is one of the best brands for headers and that they also fit the best. All personal preference though. Thanks for watching!

[@DJGRoc]

Kooks are the best of the best! That of course comes with a hefty price tag. You can certainly get the same or similar results with other brands. I've heard that American Racing long tubes are quite good, & definitely more budget friendly.

[@ohthatguymusic]

Awesome video brother! I was actually thinking about putting headers on mine as well. Did you get her tuned after you put the headers in? Any problems with that check light after you installed it?

[@KCars]

Oh That Guy thanks! I’d say go for it, yes I got it tuned by OST dyno, they also did the install. No check engine light.

[@DJGRoc]

I got Kooks long tubes & their high flow cats on my R/T. Have a 3" straight pipe exhaust as well. Still on stock tune. Only got a CEL due to a small exhaust leak. Tightened bolts & clamps, & all is well. 👍🏼 I'm positive that a tune will help with performance, but it still sounds awesome & always get complements when I'm out & about. 🤙🏼✌🏼

[@mikereeves282]

Obviously Long tubes and catless will be louder, but do yo feel that it adds enough power To support the price?

[@KCars]

I don’t think it’s enough to support the price but the sound definitely makes up for it. They added 48 hp with a dyno tune which is more than I was expecting

[@mikereeves282]

KCars so you’re saying that the LTs plus the tune added 48HP on the dyno? And how noticeable is that while doing 2nd gear pulls from 40mph?

[@KCars]

Yes. It was pretty noticeable whenever I floored it the first time because it lost a lot more traction. I can barely do a 2nd gear pull now because it doesn’t have enough traction with these tires

[@RAWKlickz]

Nice car! I'm looking at hellcats, but perhaps a scat pack shaker would be the one... The scraping does worry me though.

[@KCars]

David Ivory thanks! scat pack is definitely a good bang for your buck, and you only have to worry about scraping when you’re going over high speed bumps

[@3602go]

Some people have a new "Tune" installed after long tube headers, are you going to do that?

[@KCars]

Yes I got it tuned after getting the headers installed

[@قناةالحقائقمنالواقع]

Hey bro, I have a question plz! there's no way to lift up the headers for little bit more?

[@KCars]

I don’t think so, you’d have to modify them but then you’d be making them shorter

[@cptdavidwebb]

Sounds awesome. Cam next?

[@lalomontoya1444]

Hey man I got a question I ordered some headers and installed them already do you think I should of wrapped them in the heat wrap ? Some people were saying ital mess up my starter

[@KCars]

I think some of them already come with a heat resistant coating so if you have that then it shouldn’t be necessary to wrap them

[@lalomontoya1444]

@@KCars okay thank you man appreciate it

[@KCars]

💯💪

[@DJGRoc]

Shouldn't be an issue as long as you don't let the car idle too much. A ceramic coating before install would definitely help though. Plus it looks better than the heat wrap. 😉👍🏼

[@haleeanglin]

Exactly what I needed. Thanks for this video! Bout to get mine sounding right soon! :)

[@KCars]

No problem, it’ll sound insane. Thanks for watching!

[@haleeanglin]

@@KCars I'm having trouble finding someone to install my headers.. a few said they'd have to take the engine out to install. Any advice?

[@KCars]

Mine was done by OST dyno near Pittsburgh. I’d definitely recommend taking it to a specialized performance shop for the install and tune. Where are you located?

[@haleeanglin]

@@KCars North Georgia. Looks like I can do the install myself if needed..it will just take more time to get done. But like you said in the video.. I'd rather it be done professionally especially with the welds. I don't see how the engine needs to be removed to install them.. I need to do more research 😂

[@KCars]

I don’t think the engine needs to be removed to install the headers. Looks like there’s a few tutorials on KZbin

[@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374]

Your buddy's Challenger sounds really sick with the renso's eliminated, and did the same on my SRT8. Except it is a 6.1 and has the stock cats, but replaced the factory system from them back with 3" for the increased diameter and better flow. Getting ready to do the headers next, and will go with kooks as well. Although I got a quote recently to do them together with comp cam & dyno tune, and will do them at the same time. I'm mechanically inclined, but am not set up to do much where we are currently located and will have to farm it out to. I'm really lucky to also have someone that is good with hemis, and is a Mopar only shop in town that has a great reputation and can totally trust them to do it right

[@KCars]

Krazy SRT8 sounds like a good plan, that’ll sound insane with the cam!

[@downtown3982]

What's a good tuner for the 392? What did you end up going with?

[@RalHellcat]

We met at Maple Grove from the 2018 StreetSpeed717 KZbin Callout. Would love to see how you’re Awesome ScatPack does on the DragStrip........when they reopen.

[@KCars]

You gonna go to his meet that he’s been talking about having with all of his vehicles? I’m planning on going if I’m free. I’d like to take the scat to the strip sometime I just haven’t because I need to keep it reliable

[@allenpapir-jo6yw]

Hi Sawyer video send the mid muffler delete I love the sound from my 6.4 Beast I have a question do you have any vibration coming from lower engine to the rear resonators during during low idle sounds really bad but goes away after about 2 minutes of driving vibration sound coming out of the exhaust from the front of the engine to the resonators I know a lot of people have this problem and they say it makes them nuts you have it on your card you have any suggestions thank you very much

[@KCars]

No I didn’t notice any kind of vibrations. Might be possible that the exhaust could have been not tightened all the way during the mid muffler delete process

[@allenpapir-jo6yw]

@@KCars the car started making that noise about a month after I bought it from the dealer the car is brand new 4000 miles on it

[@KCars]

@@allenpapir-jo6yw I’ve heard that it’s pretty common maybe it’s the active exhaust flaps that are loose

[@allenpapir-jo6yw]

@@KCars no it's not that I disconnected them and they are tied down my metal wire doesn't move the vibration I see is coming from near the catalytic converter could be some something rattling their they're making me crazy

[@KCars]

@@allenpapir-jo6yw hmm might be

[@Justtwodangmany]

Holy shit dude, I just had my kooks 2" installed with cats and resonators. No mufflers yet. I have 2 sets to pick from. My cone baffled hushpowers which will clean up the sound as much as id want to. But i also have a set of straight through types from a brand i dont recall. I think ill regret not going with the hushpowers again. They kill some power, but i do leave for work at 4am. 😂 im so screwed..

[@KCars]

Rip to your neighbors lol

[@roselleavenue]

Sounds absolutely perfect! Can I ask how much were the headers and the OST install? I'm not far from there...

[@KCars]

I think parts were around $1000. OST bill was about $2000 including labor, unlocked PCM, and dyno tune

[@roselleavenue]

@@KCars Thanks brother. Sick car. Go Mango R/T here 👊

[@KCars]

Thanks!

[@DJGRoc]

With current market prices, Kooks headers & connection pipes are gonna run you about $2500. If you have a '15 or newer Chally or Charger, you'll need to get your PCM unlocked. There are different options for this, but usually involve the purchase of a tuner module at the same time. Highly recommend HP Tuners for this. PCM unlock is about $600 when you buy their tuner module & software. If you're paying someone to install the headers, I'm guessing about $1500-2k in labor for that. This may or may not include the actual tuning process. I will say that a tune isn't required for simply installing the headers. It's only needed to fully maximize the performance of them.

[@demiurgeobzen327]

"You get bored with them quick if you dont keep upgrading them" Yeeeeaaaa you definitely dont speak for all of the scatpack owners with that statement dude. Alot of scatpack owners have kept their cars stock because they love them how they are from the factory.

[@KCars]

Demiurge Obzen that’s good to hear!

[@trench5250]

Nice sound clips, car sounds great!

[@KCars]

Thanks!

[@561drew2]

i’m gonna get long tubes and a dyno tune, I don’t need one of those handheld tuners right?I just need an unlocked pcm I think

[@KCars]

Correct, you don’t need a tuning module but you will need to either send your PCM for it to get unlocked or just buy an unlocked PCM

[@DJGRoc]

You only need the PCM unlocked if you have a '15 or newer model. 2014 & older don't need to be unlocked. A handheld tuner isn't required, but can be useful for other things.

[@mrdr_392]

how much was the tune ?

[@KCars]

I think $500

[@561drew2]

and how about reliability? is the car still pretty reliable with the headers and tune?

[@KCars]

Check out this video for an in depth reliability review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sF7Pkod4f9abbtE

[@soldier09r]

Bro I didn't know you were in PA!! I've been looking for a shop to work on my Scat!! You recommend OST then?

[@KCars]

Raul Carbajal definitely take it to OST Dyno, one of the best in the world!

[@soldier09r]

KCars I'll definitely name drop when I call them tomorrow bro. I wonder if they do packages like see some shops do for hellcats but for the Scat Pack tho...

[@KCars]

Appreciate it man, I know they have some cam packages, they’ll definitely take care of you!

[@chrisparker756]

Do you have any problems scraping them on the ground? Cause my challenger I haven’t messed with the suspension so it’s stock

[@KCars]

Sometimes if I’m going over speed bumps it scrapes but it’s not terrible

[@DJGRoc]

@@KCars I concur. I've only scraped mine on speed bumps & steep drive over curbs.

[@KCars]

@@DJGRoc definitely something to be conscious about

[@NickB2Blessed]

Dope vid Bro.. 🔥🔥🔥

[@KCars]

NickB WitTheRT thanks!

[@MegaBALLINOUT]

Do u have a tune for the long tube headers?

[@KCars]

Yes

[@DJGRoc]

It's not required, but a tune will net you better performance results.

[@Badbean21]

Do these make your car throw any engine codes?

[@KCars]

I think they will if you don’t get it tuned

[@DJGRoc]

Installing long tubes won't cause a CEL. Deleting the cats will though, unless you get a custom tune.

[@fixandtests]

good work on the before and after clips :-:)

[@KCars]

Thanks!

[@deadstockflaco]

Is your car lowered ?

[@KCars]

No

[@adriant6589]

would long tube headers void my warranty? anyone know?

[@KCars]

No, unless they caused the issue that you are trying to get warranty work for

[@adriant6589]

@@KCars bettt bro thanks what brand you recommend i’m trying to get my car loud loud like you

[@KCars]

Kooks

[@DJGRoc]

@@adriant6589 Highly recommend the long tubes, with high flow cats, & MagnaFlow X-Mod cat-back exhaust. The X-Mod can be mufflerless. This will be an extremely loud setup. 😉

[@HerrJayo]

Great video!

[@justinhall3430]

I'm from Pittsburgh area

[@KCars]

Awesome

[@Bad-eh1ex]

Did you use oem head gaskets or did you use the kooks? Great video btw man awesome information keep up the good work bro

[@KCars]

If I remember correctly I believe they came with new gaskets. Thanks!

[@Bad-eh1ex]

@@KCars what size did you go with Im going to go kooks 1 7/8 inch long tubes did you get kooks oem off road mid pipes with it or did you go with a different brand

[@KCars]

@@Bad-eh1ex I got 1 7/8 as well. And ya I got the catless off road midpipes. This video should go into more detail if you wanna check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5_Vo2aOiJdrhpo

[@Bad-eh1ex]

@@KCars thank you so much for your time man and making these videos your car sounds amazing I have Borla Atak cat back exhaust as of right now can’t wait to order the long tubes

[@KCars]

That’s gonna sounds insane with the borla

[@MavtaviousGG]

is this automatic?

[@KCars]

Yes

[@dumdiversaspapalbull1452]

6:53 That sounds like a logging truck.

[@KCars]

Slightly

[@pablorivera8598]

Did u get a programmer on it ?

[@KCars]

No

[@DJGRoc]

OST did the tuning for him. You can get your own if you'd like. It can be helpful. 😉

[@KOFilms797]

Can’t wait til I get a 392. Long tubes will be insane.

[@KCars]

💯

[@pauldavis4733]

Shoutout OST slippery rock!

[@Nowheretorun7]

I ordered basically this exact same car haha 392 Tored Scatpack Shaker with Dynamics package - only difference is I went with the manual.

[@KCars]

Nice! That’ll be a fun one!

[@mikeandaliviascatpacking7520]

If you put a big cam it,then getting long tube headers would make sense

[@KCars]

Mike and Alivia Scatpacking!!!!!! 6.4L been thinking about a cam but I’m not sure if I’ll get one or not

[@DJGRoc]

That's not the only reason for getting long tubes, but they are needed if going with a big cam.

[@shellacblack9678]

I wouldn’t regret it. It sounds awesome!

[@KCars]

Monkey Tales Productions it definitely does, thanks for watching!

[@abroussardproduction789]

That’s awesome man, love the LT’s! I had Kooks LT w/Kooks catless mid pipes & Corsa Xtremes. Love the sound

[@KCars]

Cajun W/a Hemi I thought about getting the Corsa xtremes as well, that probably sounds insane!

[@abroussardproduction789]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIO4p2yGd9l_j7c , no drone!

[@KCars]

Cajun W/a Hemi sounds good!

[@italiad1013]

Notice the Jeep!! I’m on verge of trading it for a SCATPACK....but I’m torn....do you like driving your Jeep more??? Or no???

[@KCars]

david g I like the Jeep more for daily driving just because I don’t worry about it as much as the challenger. The challenger is a lot more fun to drive though unless you wanna go off road of course

[@DominionSinist]

I hope you had plan on getting cats put on your Challenger. Inhaling gas fumes is really bad for you. Also, protect your hearing. You don’t want tenitus

[@KCars]

Nah it was fun while it lasted

[@mikeandaliviascatpacking7520]

I’ve had my Scatpack since 2016 and I haven’t done anything to it,it’s completely stock,definitely not bored with it.

[@KCars]

Mike and Alivia Scatpacking!!!!!! 6.4L good to hear!

[@eldiablort1461]

The reason the EPA is coming after people is because of videos like this

[@st1nkh3ad]

sounds like a tuna boat on the gulf of mexico terrible this is why they make custom exhausts

[@KCars]

😂

[@antilaw9911]

Sounds great! $$.... Hmmm lol

[@KCars]

Thanks!

[@The_Hi_Life]

Thanks for the vid, they're a NOPE for me...

[@KCars]

CDon02 thanks for watching!

[@DrHorsePower]

We have very similar cars, and the same mods. I just got a cam installed, check out my page if you’re considering a cam

[@rogueleo6587]

“I never knew what long tube headers were” 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@KCars]

RogueLeo nope, gotta start somewhere🤷🏼‍♂️

[@mikeandaliviascatpacking7520]

Smell like gas because it’s running lean

[@KCars]

Mike and Alivia Scatpacking!!!!!! 6.4L it’s because I have catless midpipes

[@jasonrichmond5907]

1st

[@KCars]

Jason Richmond 💯

[@mikeandaliviascatpacking7520]

At some point it just sounds really obnoxious