Keep it Above Board

A board game enthusiast is appalled by his friends' casual dismissal of the rules.
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[@FieryWolf20]

"Walk shoulder to shoulder down narrow hallways" The worst of sins.

[@gokillyourselfgoogle]

They've set up the pins and I'm just the ballsy enough for the job.

[@niydfass1060]

You know whats worse? Standing shoulder to shoulder in a narrow hallway, becoming a human wall.

[@goldfish6525]

No that would be cutting in line and then telling the person who told you to get to the back of the line an idiot.

[@shadufdoodles]

Narrow hallways themselves are a sin, so many Sims die every day

[@drewbeauchesne1116]

No it’s when a group is walking shoulder to shoulder down a WIDE hallway is when it is a great sin.

[@raidenshibou2054]

The hippos? Wow, have these people never heard of the Geneva Convention?

[@rutger5000]

They break the rules of Pandemic. You think they're going to follow the rules of war?

[@rentaspoon219]

It's a Risk they are willing to take

[@rutger5000]

@@rentaspoon219 The bad pun police will get you for that one.

[@comeoncarl5616]

That’s just how LIFE goes sometimes

[@12Mantis]

That's just one of those things they prefer to skip over, it's more fun that way. :P

[@GenericDifference]

Seeing people cheat at a board game should not have angered me as much as it did.

[@paulenan9636]

if you are not afraid to risk your life, I heard some secret organisation that gives those people what they deserve just lost an employer....

[@Dracinard]

Why even play if you're just going to ignore the rules? Why not just say you win and save yourself the bother? You need the rules to create challenge, excitement, peril - to create fun! It is not a game without rules, it is anarchy! You hear me? CHEATING AT BOARD GAMES WILL END CIVILIZATION AS WE... ...whew, sorry about that, blacked out for a little bit there. Oh, new Door Monster video? Sweet!

[@JunkyardCactus]

I never cheat at co-op games, since I look at them as a challenge in working together with friends. Cheating here is dumb, since it defeats the nature of a challenge. Cheating in versus boardgames however? Count me in. If you don’t see me cheating, you are not paying attention to the game, which gets really annoying when people have to remind you of turn order and such. That’s why I love Munchkin as a game, it has Cheating as part of the rules.

[@Ryzen776]

Some people just never learned to fail and will only have fun when they are winning. That's why its important to stomp your kids at game when they are young. Teach them what it is to overcome challenge, instead of teaching them that the rule of the world will bend at their will to always put them on top. Make winning way more memorable when it is earned.

[@Dvinven]

Never play Munchkin. The rules literally allow you to cheat as long as you don't get caught. My friends and I will constantly be trying to discretely cheat, while being on the lookout for cheaters.

[@cassandramuller7337]

Well... Civilization VI just revealed Suleiman of the Ottoman Empire as one of the new leaders on the new dlc. One of the top comments was a proposal to ban crabs. I'm so happy to be part of this community :D

[@joeymcm04]

"The Ottomans only concern themselves with matters of importance. I propose we ban crabs."

[@AQuietVoice2022]

I denounce you.

[@singulator2291]

@@AQuietVoice2022 .

[@roinymphornithorynque3282]

Denounce venice

[@theDMLair]

LMAO - This is great, guys. The hippos? Really? How could you be so cruel?

[@NoNameAtAll2]

What's "hippos"?

[@littlecmb1874]

Oh hey the DM Lair, fancy seeing you here

[@theDMLair]

LOL - Yeah, I found these guys a few months ago. Funny stuff. :)

[@sluggames7088]

@@NoNameAtAll2 Hippopotamus is a big animal. There was a children's game popular in the 90's and maybe earlier or still called Hungry Hungry Hippos. It was a silly dexterity game where a bunch of balls were in the middle and you had to press buttons to make your hippo reach its neck out and eat one. In this case, the joke is that they're using the Hippos to chew the cards.

[@shadufdoodles]

They’re only dangerous when they’re wiggling their ears and blowing bubbles

[@backdoorproductions4983]

Monopoly Man. He's the best there is at what he does: making really bad deals and trading away properties he doesn't find useful. Sorry Kyle.

[@ArmoryMedia]

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. And you sure-as-hell will not collect any money from Free-Parking! You're lucky it's free in the first place!

[@Starjumper2821]

The bank sells the properties, then many times get's them back for half the price. Sells houses and hotels for a fortune and only cashes back out half. Monopoly Man is a hardcore capitalist.

[@Gray963]

He's like a successful version of Trump who respects laws. lol

[@The_Otherguy]

You think you can get away without pay +10% the mortgage when you unmortgage Baltic Avenue?! NO! You're paying $30 PLUS the extra $3!!!

[@SendarSlayer]

@@ArmoryMedia Free Parking is a corner square on the board diagonally opposite to Go. When a player lands here nothing happens and they move off the space on their next turn. The only exception is in the Monopoly City version, where landing on the space grants the player the 'Rent Dodge' card, regardless of if another player has it or not. Damn right you won't collect money on free parking.

[@Vicky_1995_]

The Board Game Police would not be so underfunded if the stopped losing so many informants. They could of saved him, Damn you Monopoly Man Damn you.

[@marley7868]

we didan't have the raid card we only had intel cards

[@Vicky_1995_]

@@marley7868 so Kyle's character get eaten by hippos because you guys didn't have the right cards!? No seem legit try to budget your card management better next time.

[@marley7868]

@@Vicky_1995_ we got intel and funding cards hence monopoly man (starting character)and besides it's turn 5 we know who to take down we just need an offense card it's all going fin

[@Vicky_1995_]

@@marley7868 All right I trust you board game police. Go get those cheating scum.

[@ALLxISxGONE]

Sorry, the dog got to the espionage cards :T

[@crediblesalamander8056]

Drawing one extra card is fine, if morally questionable. Drawing TWO extra cards however is crossing a line no mortal should ever cross.

[@taoboyce6412]

All of them happened to be epidemic cards too.

[@lupa387]

@@taoboyce6412 There are only 6 Epidemic cards in the game, and they drew at least 9...

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

@@lupa387 they were already doomed at that point

[@leotamer5]

@@lupa387 It was a set-up.

[@daidarabotchi3891]

@@leotamer5 Never thought of that interpretation - maybe the others set up a situation where they'd _have_ to cheat in order to bring out the snitch!

[@-Offstar]

"Maybe the Monopoly man helped out" "How much do you know?" *Leans head toward chest* "Let the record show that I tried" Love the foreshadowing there lol

[@Snnoy]

Offstar1029 And *Covers chest* “You can’t just say that out loud!”

[@giggabiite4417]

lol, less foreshadowing and more future nightfall

[@royce9018]

it's not really foreshadowing when it's that obvious though.

[@-Offstar]

@@royce9018 When I made that comment I was referencing the foreshadowing of the Monopoly man not the foreshadowing of the wire which was obvious.

[@samuelbarnes4976]

Also hungry hungry hippos was behind Kyle

[@conchobair9887]

"Ugh. It's an epidemic." "Aw Man." "Knew it was gonna happen." *Well then, Door Monster. Care to explain?*

[@snowcreep5458]

Lol I was gonna post a similar comment until I saw this word for word XD

[@lintyscorpion2692]

wow. how original. You made a joke about a video from the past mentioning epidemic/pandemic when we are currently living in a pandemic? You are so witty and humourous, and no one has ever made this kind of joke ever! You should become a comedian!

[@randomyorkshireman]

@@lintyscorpion2692 Alright pal take it easy it's just a joke.

[@lintyscorpion2692]

@@randomyorkshireman a joke so old and overused, I'd be willing to bet Amy Schumer wouldn't even steal this joke

[@randomyorkshireman]

@@lintyscorpion2692 maybe next time look at the date cause he typed it 5 months ago. a guy 5 months ago wants to make an overused joke on the internet whats the big deal don't really see why you need to copy paste this comment onto every single variant of the joke you find

[@doxazo5512]

“Was it my mom? Was it r/gaming? Was it Will Whedon?” The joke is that r/gaming doesn’t care about board games

[@rhysbaker7456]

😁 By the way it's Wil Wheaton. People judge for things like that.

[@Cheshiremd]

*cough* Games Worskshp *cough*

[@damoclesecoe7184]

I love the sly reference to Geek and Sundry's Tabletop there!

[@chricechiu3673]

@@rhysbaker7456 Wheel Weeden

[@Brot1984]

He also hosted a show called TableTop on the Geek & Sundry KZbin channel. The concept of that show was to play board games with more or less well known guests.

[@nolanmcbride5653]

“Oh, they’re doing a low-key realistic sketch today... Nope!”

[@rhysbaker7456]

What you thought you were watching Friends?

[@kypdrayson]

I will remember Allison, upon our first meeting, stepping over a rope fence in the mall to get to where she needed to go, and this spawning a conversation about lawful vs chaotic alignments. This was a slightly more dramatic retelling of that first meeting. Very nice. ALSO CONGRATS ON THE WEDDING!!

[@Sagalink]

@@panicbanana1841 HEY, shouldnt you be like, inside the video, or on community comments, or some other method of interaction with a natural barrier between you and the human maelstrom that is youtube comments? Its dangerous, rude, and frankly kinda a bit weird here!

[@Sagalink]

@B T Tell me about it. I think this place gave me some sorta weird rash. Should probably get it checked out.

[@Jansay34]

*draws a card* "It's an epidemic." "I knew that was gonna happen." U_U

[@kibbo86]

Yeah, I was checking the date on this one, confused

[@dolphindrawings9331]

UwU

[@just_jays_life]

Wow.... that was oddly dark, and very funny. Who was punching you?

[@ArifRWinandar]

The Straight Punch Man.

[@moo3oo3oo3]

It's the girl on the left

[@Chloe_557]

Mr. Rock M. Sockem

[@JimBobJoeB0b]

Your mom. JK sorry if that offended you in any way.

[@just_jays_life]

@@JimBobJoeB0b lol its all cool.

[@TLhikan]

This sketch was so good I almost feel bad that I laughed harder at Ian's Patreon pitch.

[@farret1972]

I expected two things before the punchline 1: Monopoly man 2: Wil Wheaton I was not disappointed

[@cringeindustries3939]

Rachel: "Maybe the Monopoly man helped out." Kyle: "How much do you know?" Got a good laugh out of that line

[@CosmereInformant]

Okay, so obviously this needs several sequels

[@Technomancer03]

That patreon plug hit too close to home

[@JC-ce8fn]

*sighs* I know right.... in two weeks my rl campaign is going to begin again, should I just make the fights harder every time they are late.

[@dividebyzero9886]

The Patreon pitches are essentially a bonus sketch for each video.

[@Madhattersinjeans]

I usually dread the "please donate money to pay for my life and buy my merch!" spiels in youtube videos. But these guys keep it classy, they know it's cringy and play on that very well.

[@BlackandGold83]

Wow, the start is really eerie if you watch this in 2020.

[@BrownFoxWarrior]

Bending the rules removes all the challenge. Even in a board game, you can't always get what you want, and need to be able to adapt. That underfunded joke was good, though.

[@skrahnha]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@Shadethewolfy]

Not really. For example, in BL2 a CE table lets you alter the rarity weights. There's still a challenge there because all the weapons that'll drop will be around your character level, maybe a few levels higher (you can't equip stuff with a level requirement higher than your current level), and all you're doing is making good shit drop more often. You're cutting down on mindless grinding, which in my eyes adds to the fun of the game since you're always finding really neat guns.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

I don't kbow how you feel about it, but I prefer to play by Mad Queen rules.

[@Shadethewolfy]

@@davidwuhrer6704 Mad Queen rules?

[@davidwuhrer6704]

@@Shadethewolfy When the queen is allowed to move more than one field in any direction. It is an unorthodox bend of the rules in chess.

[@shadowprogram215]

I just want to state I love you guys, you’re one of the few truly funny channels left, there are so many channels that force the comedy but it comes naturally to you guys, never ever stop please.

[@aturchomicz821]

What's with this guy? kzbin.info/door/1dDig68uYf_1QM7GJ9ecTA

[@theDMLair]

Word. These guys are hilarious.

[@Dragonflier001]

Not only that, but they're really creative too. I mean, have you seen the Door Monster they create for Halloween every year?

[@shadowprogram215]

@@Dragonflier001 Yes i have its seriously cool!

[@Cheshiremd]

Oh, i find DM very good, but i wouldn't say that they r the only ones. NeebsGaming with BF series and the rest of the stuff. Also Dorkly is quite funny and creative.

[@zairaner1489]

"It's an epidemic" Stops the video and looks at date "Knew that was gonna happen" Stops the video and looks at date *again*

[@TrueInkpoint]

Yup

[@lintyscorpion2692]

wow. how original. You made a joke about a video from the past mentioning epidemic/pandemic when we are currently living in a pandemic? You are so witty and humourous, and no one has ever made this kind of joke ever! You should become a comedian!

[@zairaner1489]

@@lintyscorpion2692 I literally only described what I did while watching the episode. Ironically, the only one taking this seriously enough to turn it into his job is you ;)

[@cyrunal1167]

"Maybe the Monopoly man helped out" "How much do you know?" Best lines lol

[@timsmith618]

I just noticed, when Ian first reveals he fudges the rules all the time, Kyle reaches for his chest, where his wire is. I love your attention to detail.

[@Saadian]

"it's an epidemic" Huh, thanks YT for recommending this to me now.

[@suburban-mech2107]

Was gunna say...

[@anaceattorneyfangreatgame9770]

"They're extremely undefunded" "Maybe the monoply man helped out" "How much do you know?" "What?" "What?"

[@AnDr3W91]

I think it would be fun to have a running D&D campaign where there is this one character with schizophrenia and wild magic, that represent your patreons.

[@cockamamieschemes]

I loved the comedic shift in tone of everyone, and the rich Uncle Pennybags gag hits fantastically because of the set up. For whatever reason I could totally see Kyle as the type of person that always follows the rules. I wonder if that's actually true.

[@Window_Hero]

Ian, I'm sure there are countless people who would gladly play D&D with you. (I'm one of them, please, I haven't had a tabletop group in months)

[@tanith117]

I know, I have all these fun games I set up at some public game nights, people come over intrigued that Doom has a board game and then they see that It needs 2 boxes, 3 rule books and a small forest worth of cards and tokens then go play apples to apples or something.

[@krazykat9362]

Please, count me in too! My group hasn't been able to schedule a game in months.

[@jamesonmoore1837]

"Hey, that's not what the Monopoly Man sounds like! Wait, he doesn't sound like anything, does he... Carry on then."

[@The_Milkman_Delivers]

"It's an epidemic" Feels 2020 man

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

How many epidemic cards did they have in a row? He drew like 8 in a row.

[@originalneverknown]

"Was it Wil Wheaton?" Omg Wil Wheaton totally has a secret tabletop police organisation doesn't he?

[@colineriksen278]

Kyle: playing by the rules Me: remembers Kyle plays Magic

[@crazy4bricksthebrickbrothe722]

Aw, come on. He learned.

[@igorkostic6684]

I just got this video recommended to me again, and the first sentence I hear is "Ugh, it's an epidemic."... Ain't that a coincidence.

[@dorkmax7073]

1:53 That was a beautiful cut worthy of Edgar Wright. Side note: thanks for reigniting the burning hatred I feel toward my friends for never committing to a DnD session.

[@dorkmax7073]

Congratulations guys. One of the wedding photos made it to /r/doormonster. Really happy for the both of you

[@dantrianon4248]

This is how I feel when I do the Pottermore test more than one time until I get Ravenclaw 🤣😭

[@dukeman6008]

I get Slytherin every time. flexible morale compasses are the bomb.

[@dantrianon4248]

Dukeman I got Slytherin too once! I liked it but I prefer Ravenclaw 😭

[@AnDr3W91]

I took the test several times just to make sure it wasn't lying to me 🐍

[@barsni4779]

Don't mind me, I'll just make a screenshot of this conversation here...

[@TheCinderfang]

Did the same thing after getting Slytherin, after succeeding I realized I felt the first one fit in the end.

[@PatricHerrera]

The We Happy Few prelude is looking great.

[@justadude5868]

This got really weird really fast.. I love it!!!

[@PuristPlays]

I have no idea what I just watched, but it was funny, and I like funny. Thanks for the non-understood funnies!

[@JubileePenguin]

Three years later and I finally notice hippos in the background during the first half of the skit.

[@SerendipityJones]

"Was it Wil Wheaton?!" Just brilliant - love this so much (especially as I am getting more into board games)! And spotted things I didn't notice when I watched it again - like how Kyle tries to cover up or speaks into the wire at the start! ^_^

[@kevinwalker2816]

I actually asked about halfway through the video why a bunch of adults (and Kyle) had Hungry-Hungry-Hippos during a game night. I was not disappointed.

[@DaBezzzz]

I love this video so much I would pay for an entire series revolving around the Gaming Police and whatever the breaking-the-rules-gang is called

[@lforlight]

This Erin is a keeper. I could dig more appearances of her in the future.

[@NegativeLegend]

"Was is Wil Wheaton?" Gold.

[@dobrynanikitic6791]

That´s how mafia works.

[@jonahw6516]

But how would you now ...

[@Bobberation]

That's how One Night Ultimate Werewolf works

[@Madhattersinjeans]

Delete this nephew.

[@whovo3059]

Well looks like Kyle will not be going to any more board game nights. Edit: Also want to say I was pleasantly surprised with the twists in this video.

[@Dieaconus]

Huh, I was just re-watching a bunch of your old videos when this was uploaded!

[@jacen51423]

This is one of the dumbest videos I have ever watched and I love it so much. I'm so glad to see that you guys are finally back to putting out consistent videos. Can't wait for Skyvault and can't wait for more videos!

[@ODabberVille]

“Send him to the hippos” has to be my favorite quote ever.

[@Juliet-Belcouleur]

Was i supposed to believe: -That he got his feet chewed off ? -Or that, him witnessing the desecration of a card, is just as bad ?

[@Ajc-ni3xn]

I love how he references the wire through the entire video.

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

Wow. This was a really good episode. I mean really good. Not to say any previous episodes weren't but this one? Fantastic cinematography, a great horror theme, all round enjoyable!

[@billyhyde1415]

"Was it r/gaming? WAS IT WIL WHEATON?!"

[@personmcpersonface1016]

I love the detail of the Hungry Hungry Hippos box behind the group in the beginning

[@JosephWiess]

"we lost another one, boys." That was classic

[@RothRocks2000]

I'm so happy you guys are back to uploading every week. I understand why you weren't before, but man, am I happy this is back.

[@Luke-me9qe]

Cheating on board games triggers me in such a way, I once left a birthday party.

[@megamanx466]

Eventually, all those "epidemic" cards they drew turned into 2020! How's that for Arkham Horror! :P

[@benoitlabrecque4513]

I have to say, really good editing on that one!

[@StarboyXL9]

"Introduce him to the hippos" I haven't laughed so hard in a good long while!

[@scarletfox2505]

I was just in the middle of a Door Monster binge when this gets uploaded. Pleasant surprise.

[@ollinnature9506]

I think that entire deck is just filled with epidemics

[@thatfighterguy5846]

Kyle is so relatable here. I'm like that all the time. It's called being a "Legalist".

[@FrostSylph]

Yes the game has rules, everything does. And what happens when we dont follow them? ANARCHY! That's what happens! Chaos! Mayhem! SHENANIGANS!

[@Haan22]

If you're going to bring in a hippo reference you need to put up a parental warning at the start of the video, I almost had an anime flashback to my tragic backstory.

[@Lecog]

And this, is why, games like Chess, Plauge Inc, and other sorts of Board Game Recreations are on steam.

[@atmunn1]

I have to say this is one of your best sketches yet. Well done.

[@adt4864]

I love how he subtly talks to his collar where the wire is.

[@DEATHCLAWSLAYER]

Cheating aside, two epidemics in a row, big oof. Keep up the good work

[@insignificantgnat9334]

It was hard to see exactly what was being drawn, but at least one of the other cards they drew was an epidemic. I think they were playing the game wrong. If I remember correctly the setup is supposed to space the epidemics out more.

[@DEATHCLAWSLAYER]

@@insignificantgnat9334 it's totally possible. You split the deck evenly into as many piles as epidemics and add once to each, then shuffle each pile, then stack the piles. If a pile had an epidemic at the top, and another at the bottom then you can draw into two in a row. It can be and often is a game ender as it cascades. After they draw the second epidemic it becomes impossible but that was part of the joke (they draw like 8 in a row).

[@imaloser5689]

@@DEATHCLAWSLAYER Cheaters inevitably anger time and space to the point where it spawns more epidemics. It is actually a quite well documented fact and currently the way scientists are looking to create infinite energy.

[@14stockfan]

I've had it happen before, it sucks particularly if the two cities you draw are neighbors. Time to die.

[@stevenhill7487]

I love how Ian just keeps drawing Epidemics.

[@ryanm6004]

Wish we could pretend we didn’t draw an epidemic NOW

[@matthewnunya6329]

The transition between scenes was awesome

[@DavidEllis94]

Never underestimate Whil Wheaton.

[@52nerfguy]

"My mom? r/gaming? Will Wheaton?" HAHAHAHA I see you too are cultured fans of Will Wheaton's Tabletop

[@Antonim54]

I love how the interrogation shots get slightly more Dutch-angled with each cut.

[@keanehampshire356]

“You know what we do to snitches around here... introduce him to the hippos....

[@TDStriker]

2020: "Ok well it's another epidemic"

[@AuthorReborn]

A little different from the more recent sketches and a little shorter, but defintiely a lot of fun and I was giggling to myself throughout this one. You guys are starting off this year strong

[@vojtechholub5536]

You know, my top favourite channel used to be Corridor but since I found you... source of actual fun, you are #1 :) bdw I know it isnt likely to happen, but are you planning to make another KSP video? I really love them...maybe because I started playing it again..

[@marcocappelli2236]

I agree with you! Hey, you look familiar....

[@ofekcohen7147]

I just watched this video in 2020. You predicted the future.

[@RothRocks2000]

I read the description before watching the video, and I fully expected Ian to be the "board game enthusiast." Way to break the typecasting.

[@mc_strobelight164]

Wow the quality of this video is awesome! Nice work

[@limetwistanimations8628]

Good thing it wasn't RISK, then the UN would have gotten involved.

[@megamitchel100]

Everyone admiring the masterful lines, meanwhile I'm over here noticing how it's impossible to draw more than 2 epidemics in a row with the proper deck shuffling as the game forces you to spread out epidemics. They weren't even playing the game right in the first place.

[@Force2reckonVods]

You have no idea how glad I am your skits are back. I'm glad you took the time to do your show right, but I also *really* missed these xD

[@Bytazzar]

I want to say ive been watching your stuff a long time now, i love TGT, i think yall are doing some amazing stuff! Keep trucking on !

[@GirlPainting]

why havn´t i seen this one before? i bingewatch doormonster all the time!

[@johnhazatoth6125]

I just realized Erin is the other scout in the Civ 5 Dibs on the Ruins video. Wow. Haven't seen her in awhile.

[@ajanis95]

One wonders just how many DM's have been caught and put to jail. Surely it must be in the thousands at least.

[@kevinbrown4534]

Whenever I see a new Door Monster upload show up in my feed, I can’t help but smile and enjoy the pure comedy genius while I watch it.

[@FireFox64000000]

This is the WTF kind of funny where you don't know what's going on but you're still laughing XD

[@SuperKarlFriedrich]

watching in 2020: "it's an epidemic" ^^

[@DaBezzzz]

The quality of this surprises me, though it shouldn't, with you having acquired more and better resources and skills for filmmaking since the Skyvault thingy happened. Makes me even more excited to see the finished product ALSO dat music is awesome

[@TMoore2000]

Omg I love this, so close to home. "Was it Wil Wheaton" love it!

[@PaulGaither]

When he tried to leave, it felt like a good ending... then it got better.