Emmert 6A Toolmakers Vise Restoration - Part 3: Making Copper Soft Jaws

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[@plainnpretty]

Nice vice great design. Your copper jaws are perfect thanks Keith

[@jjbode1]

I made copper jaws for a 3-1/2" Starrett vise from 1/2" x 3/4" bar scrap found at my local recycling yard. Left them thick for filing later after wear. Kept original but these are handier for this vise. Reused the original screws counter-bored and made copper screw-plugs fitting flush to the jaw face.

[@bcbloc02]

That is a classy looking vise!

[@patrickcolahan7499]

I love those threaded transfer punches. I need to start acquiring some. I have always used Aluminum as my soft jaws as I thought it was softer than Copper, just looked them up, not a lot of difference. The Copper definitely looks nice. Thanks for sharing.

[@minigpracing3068]

You could buy a bunch of different size pointed set screws, might be cheaper than these "special" location screws.

[@ihrescue]

Marking those copper plates was such a cool idea. Thanks for that. Good series of videos on this remarkable vise.

[@piccilos]

The black and copper look really nice together

[@kaydog2008]

A Great vise to make some 1/4" thick leather jaw cup covers for those polished up projects too.🤔👍

[@MKHNitro]

Keith - another great video I have the same problem with marks left by CPAP mask

[@tomthumb3085]

Nice job Keith.

[@harryhino2267]

I like the contrast in colours.

[@dagwood1327]

Always great to start my day with a new video from you.

[@justinmarcotte5272]

Keith: “Boom” I love it

[@brandenpatterson2776]

Great video Keith !

[@donlum9128]

Beautiful

[@WilliamTMusil]

Hiya Keith

[@BruceNitroxpro]

As a machinist, I'd rate you a solid D.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Picked up some larger transfer screws off of Facebook marketplace. Need to get the smaller ones. Used them a lot in a previous job.

[@anthonyrespass3090]

Thanks

[@stevegambone3573]

I'm just waiting for Keith to get to the Atlas H mill restoration, If not send it my way, I be most hoppy to pay for shipping, Seem lately I have been doing a lot of Atlas restoration work and other. "O" I do have a complete set of stander threaded transfer punches, there great to have

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Interesting vice good work

[@railfan439]

Thanks for the video Keith. Hope to see you at the Bar-Z. Jon

[@RambozoClown]

You might want to try Robin Renzetti's jaw screws. Gives you more jaw area and no chance of the screw head marking the work, or the heads getting damaged and hard to remove.

[@waynesmith4923]

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[@catfishgray3696]

KEITH, LOOKS GOOD, PET AND OR TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, SEE YOU NEXT TIME...

[@kennyronful]

The cast iron at the bottom of the copper jaws appears to be close to the thickness of the jaws. Will this cause a problem as the copper wears/deforms with use? Maybe something behind the copper so the jaws stand proud a bit?

[@petero2693]

I use a metal wood vise with hard wood inserts..flexes holds great cheap fast and lasts for years flip them too... no damage.... gotta use what you got...

[@MrLukealbanese]

lovely work Keith

[@frenchcreekvalley]

I wonder if there's a Top and Bottom to those copper jaws.

[@Hoaxer51]

Lol!

[@frenchcreekvalley]

@@Hoaxer51 I was serious. Who says that the holes in the jaws were centered EXACTLY half way between the bottom of the milled slot and the top of the jaw? I'll rephrase my question: "Can you rotate each copper jaw by 180 degrees in its slot (end for end) and still have it fit properly?"

[@curtisvonepp4335]

Endless video's on vices see 1 or 2 and you have pretty mutch seen them all .

[@kentuckytrapper780]

Great video Keith, keep'um coming..

[@wrstew1272]

Keith- could you not cut a slot across the end of the screws to facilitate a straight screwdriver to remove if the heads are damaged, gaining the ability to use soft screws? You have thru holes, easy upgrade for maximum cushion. A thought….

[@melgross]

I bought sets of those transfer punches, and I’ll be darned if I ever remember I have them when I need them.

[@johnflower8648]

Transfer screws can be substituted by grub screws installed back to front.

[@markbernier8434]

Great for through holes, not so much for blind.

[@trollforge]

The sales ad said that it came with 5 sets of jaws, so I'm guessing the pin jaws were #3, plus 2 sets of swivel jaws... It did show the swivel jaws fairly clearly. Did Carl get you that ad? The Images Page on Vintage Machinery said you had to go through the site historian, so I sent them to him.

[@DumitruUrsu]

I tend to use medium strenght threadlocker on most of my screws - not out of fear they will vibrate out, but to keep moisture out of the threads. do you think this is a good idea?

[@kimber1958]

thanks keith

[@richvandervoort2950]

My vise has narrow angle for the countersunk screw heads that is significantly less than the standard 100 degree countersink.

[@anthonygorton5328]

NICE SIGN ON YOUR TOOLBOX

[@chowardlaw8417]

Neat little vice, and nice job fitting the soft jaws. Do wonder why you didn't use a little anti-seize on the screws for the jaws - bet you know why I asked about that....

[@toiyabe_effect]

The last vise I bought I immediately fitted with oak jaws. I work with guns.

[@samuraidriver4x4]

I am guessing the oak doesn't mess up the blueing?

[@toiyabe_effect]

@@samuraidriver4x4 I dunno. The guns I work with aren't blued. My other bench vise has leather covering the jaws.

[@MrUSNMasterChief]

great video, thanks

[@scotthaddad563]

I would have been just a little peeved to find out that the main beam of the vise had been snapped at one time and repaired. Of course not if the repair was disclosed beforehand. That would be a major talking point during negotiations for the trade. A nice, handy vise nonetheless!

[@jagmarz]

I'm curious about why the cast jaws appear to have through holes. Is that just to reduce restrictions on the screws to attache the soft jaws, or is there maybe another reason? It occurs to me that you could maybe slot the other end of the screws to make them easier to remove? Or I guess that would allow you to have screws that are flush to the soft jaws?

[@CH-pv2rz]

Why didn't you simply test for fit using the 1 existing jaw to see if it fit both sides and if the holes perfectly aligned on both sides of the jaws before using the marking screws on the copper jaws?

[@bchrisl1491]

I was wondering how you were going to mark the pilot holes to exactly match the jaws. Now I know.

[@ddblairco]

thank you Keith

[@jtg2737]

Hello from San Antonio, TEXAS! Nice small task that will come in handy for non marring projects.

[@stevegambone3573]

So are thoes center punches made my HEIMANN MFG CO of URBANA, OHIO, amazed I am, in them old days they made every thing to handly any problem

[@Smallathe]

Very cool soft jaws... :)

[@nobuckle40]

Do you have any dissimilar metal concerns? I'm not up on my metallurgy and am curious about ferrous to non-ferrous electrolysis. I ask because I have some Empire brand combination squares that have, what I think, are 400 series stainless steel blades and zinc heads. Should I be concerned about corrosion?

[@sp1nrx]

when there is an "electrolyte", yes. If you keep the tools clean and dry.... no problem.

[@melgross]

If you’re not connecting into an electrical circuit, and dont have moisture around, then there’s no concern. Many tools and equipment have dissimilar metals. Think of the nuts in lathe and mill tables. Bronze with steel screws. Brass or bronze thrust washers, etc.

[@nobuckle40]

@@sp1nrx Thank you .

[@nobuckle40]

@@melgross Thank you.

[@scottvolage1752]

Looking good Keith. Have a blessed day.

[@jensschroder8214]

If we put something sensitive in the jaws, we always put an aluminum bracket in between. Copper works too.

[@garthbutton699]

Thanks for the video🤗😎🤗😎

[@briansengstock59]

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[@MikeBaxterABC]

13:24 .. should use brass screws

[@fnordhorn]

Should make a supper soft set from Lead or Babbit.

[@SciPunk215]

neat

[@murphymmc]

As you will be replacing these eventually, why not make two sets while you were set up?

[@randallanderson4999]

I don't think he had enough bar stock to make 4.

[@johnwiley8417]

Keith, there's a rhythmic clank coming from your bandsaw (4:16). What is that?

[@MrSpad007]

The weld joint i thimk

[@katelights]

yeah I bet its the weld in the blade.

[@PhilG999]

@@MrSpad007 Sounds like it. Sometimes those bandsaw blades are tricky to get a good weld, and not everybody grinds the weld flat. Doesn't really hurt anything. I've done a bunch of them over the years ...

[@cannon440]

Sounds like the gear train.

[@PhilG999]

@@cannon440 Could be. Sound is kinda misleading on my setup because I'm using a 32" 1080p TV at arms length as a monitor on an HDMI hookup to my comp, which has a good sound card, maybe too good.

[@fengelman]

why reduce the height at all?

[@TatoDwisusanto]

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[@markbernier8434]

I would have put witness marks on the backs of the jaws in case you had them off or had made another set, perhaps leathered.

[@paulcopeland9035]

I guess you didn't bother to listen to the video.

[@dcviper985]

Was Keith wearing a respirator before filming?

[@cornoadmin]

CPAP?

[@dcviper985]

@@cornoadmin must be a real early session 😄

[@paulcopeland9035]

No. What does this have to do with the vise jaws?

[@dcviper985]

@@paulcopeland9035 nothing?

[@JasonTHutchinson]

The screws should be a soft metal as well like silicon bronze.

[@morelenmir]

That was a brilliant little project Keith--I really enjoyed watching it! Although... Honestly I would say it was more of a 'CLANG' than a 'BOOM'!!! The combination of black and copper looks really, _really_ good in place as well. A genuine museum quality repair I would say!!!

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Interesting creative vice! Keep up the good work! Oh, for everyone saying what you could have or should have done, hindsight is 20-15! Better than perfect vision! 😀 😁

[@tropifiori]

Cool

[@chrisarmstrong8198]

Sorry to be negative but the jaws appear to barely stand proud of the ledge that they are mounted on and the heads of the mounting screws are only just below the jaw surface. When the jaw surfaces deform and need to be dressed, those clearances will disappear. Maybe 3/8" thick copper (or aluminium) would have been better ?

[@alstonofalltrades3142]

After this video I live for the day when me or someone happens across a broken vice and it's going to be chucked, nah it just needs new jaws!

[@lesmansom7817]

Transfer screws were to keep the workers basic. No maths needed😎

[@RobertKohut]

Jaw dropping... :-)

[@arkiefyler]

👍

[@oldschool1993]

Don't forget to thank the viewer who sent you those handy C clamps.

[@elsdp-4560]

👍👀

[@Adirondacks4me]

Do you hear in editing the volume fluctuating when you swivel your head back and forth while presenting with the tripod? Mic centered should eliminate that issue.

[@allredtail]

Soft jaws with hard metal screws doesn't make sense to me.

[@MX-Drew]

I'm the guy who disliked this video. As much as I like Keith's videos this was a lesson in how not to use a drill press. Never ever put your hands near the workpiece while the drill is switched on and revolving.

[@Hoaxer51]

The thumbs down button doesn’t work anymore, they left the thumbs down button but it’s not connected.

[@markwatters6875]

👍🇦🇺

[@PatrickPoet]

Has it ever seemed worth it to you to keep a set of drill bits ground to a zero rake for brass and copper? Clickspring did a good little video about it once: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnLRmH5-fr-ar6M

[@37yearsofanythingisenough39]

To me it depends, if the drills are to be used in a fixed spindle machine such as a mill or a drill press where the work is also fixed in a vise,I have never seen the need. On the other hand if you are talking drills to be used in a portable hand held drill, dubbing the bits does have some advantage, especially for copper as it is far more “grabby” than brass.

[@zanechristenson3436]

This is the antithesis video of Robins copper jaws lol. No measurements to be found

[@jeffcotton2235]

Keith... we can see the strap lines from your CPAP headgear on your cheeks.

[@Mike_Regan]

So?

[@paulsto6516]

He must have just got out of bed :)

[@paulcopeland9035]

What does this have to do with vise jaws? Stupid and rude, BTW!

[@justinl.3587]

Boys and girls, never ever put your hand on something in the bandsaw while it’s cutting.