The BIZARRE Deaths of Rebecca Zahou and Max Shacknai

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[@leetahs9051]

imagine if all of the neighbours in these cases actually did something when they heard someone in distress. how different the outcomes would be and how much more evidence could be found. if you hear something do something!!!

[@KendallRae]

YES YES YES YES YES!!!! This is why i call anytime there's something that even COULD be sketch. Just call non emergancy and they tell you if they think they need to connect you to county! Litterally did it like a few weeks ago

[@leetahs9051]

Kendall Rae exactly! always always always better safe than sorry!!! hopefully these videos open the eyes of viewers, encouraging them to do that

[@maddiegreenwood6928]

the bystander effect! creates a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts

[@jessenichole78]

yulita YES like it could literally save a life. One of my best friends was murdered and police said she would've survived if the neighbors had called when they heard noises coming from her house, but no one did because "they try to keep to themselves and not disturb anyone." The noises were her struggling to get to the door after she was stabbed. No one called and she died alone and struggling... Even if you think it could just be noises from a movie or whatever. CALL. If anything they'll appreciate a good neighbor checking on them. We all gotta look out for each other. ❤

[@meme7986]

yulita yea but that’s how people die but I don’t understand how they didn’t even call the police at least but I wouldn’t run to a house when people are screaming. It could be a set up or you could be next.

[@jessc5112]

I hate hearing 911 calls where the operator is rude to the person calling.

[@julz3tt3]

It's happening Alot lately...

[@imsad7821]

Ikr, like the police always sounds so calm.

[@SarahSmith-qj4uz]

TISSUE AND FRIENDS 911 operators are supposed to be calm but rude they were so rude on that call

[@majickfeline8951]

@@emmaflint1215 that's a horrible attitude. so why the hell are you a nine-one-one operator then? we need people who are compassionate and understanding of people who are freaking out and screaming because they see something horrifying or something horrifying is happening to them.

[@jillianburgess771]

Emma Flint do you fucking understand what extreme stress does to a person? If you can’t be calm and de-escalate a situation in an appropriate way without berating and being snide with someone who is in an EMERGENCY SITUATION you have no business being a 911 operator. I don’t know where you live but I’m making it my mission to find out and get your ass fired with a screenshot of your HORRIBLY insensitive comment.

[@ellaboehme6748]

You literally can't tie yourself up and THEN hang yourself like that - and you wouldn't strip, you definitely wouldn't scream either. This was 100% murder

[@imeldawilm677]

Yea what the hell? Hands tied up behind her back? Stripped naked?

[@lckfck2460]

100% Agree

[@charissekemp8867]

Ella Boehme exactly it should be labeled “murder”

[@lalthazualamualchin9589]

I really hope Donald Trump will found...who did these..

[@cheery-hex]

sounds like the rich guy bought off the police and the feds!

[@kenyawesley5189]

That 911 lady was RUDE. No compassion at all

[@RoyalAmara]

Kenya Wesley I thought it was just me who thought she was really rude. she could've shown more compassion or tried to help Adam at least calm down.

[@shreksgirl1998]

Kenya Wesley to be fair they dont have time for Compassion they need the info to get there and help asap. If you have compassion for everyone i imagine it will take time and definitely an emotional toll on yourself

[@jowakley7209]

Also going on about how she ‘couldn’t help him until she had the full address’... surely they can just trace the call?

[@natashahall8233]

Yes!! Imagine someone breaking into your house and you have to deal with that bs

[@user-hw5ys6ng1l]

I thought so too. I completely understand that dispatchers have to be quick and thorough but I also think they should show compassion when talking to people under unimaginable stress... And her tone of voice during that call seemed to show that she's severely lacking in that department.

[@Kristen.The.Girl_]

No one will ever convince me that this woman killed herself 🤷‍♀️

[@Kristen.The.Girl_]

@@ashleylucas-hemphill3689 lol 'most'

[@LittleRayofSunshine69750]

100% agree

[@lizard48]

the sheriff and department are incompetent.

[@LittleRayofSunshine69750]

@@ashleylucas-hemphill3689 maybe in the US but I live in another country and that is not the case.

[@1snallygasterfan781]

@@ashleylucas-hemphill3689 yeah, thats fair but theres still all that other stuff thats fishy about her suicide. like getting over the bannister when she was all tied up? or the knife thing? and the note on the door makes little sense in the context of the suicide.

[@TigerMonthlyHits]

“Let me hang myself naked outside on the balcony to give my lover an even more painful experience than what he’s already going through”.... I think not.

[@JosephinaRenee]

RIGHT

[@nadirimyers6643]

TigerMonthlyHits facts

[@mariaakaannie6138]

"after telling my sister I need to be strong for him" Yeah.... that makes perfect sense... How the hell did they seriously think this was suicide? It is difficult enough to hang yourself in the first place without anyone noticing, but to spend time writing that message, tieing those knots, putting a gag in your mouth while another person is in the house?! No one would do that! It makes zero sense!

[@sarahdavids2678]

Yea.... if she really wanted to commit suicide than why the hell was she naked in PUBLIC?? so creepy . And on top of dat max was not even dead when Rebecca died.

[@Aideen]

TigerMonthlyHits ....yeah i dont think your thought process would be the most logical while in a lot of emotional pain... When a guy hurt my mom real bad i didnt think "Yeah imma beat the shit out of him so my mom can be even more hurt by me getting charged." I woulda went ahead anyways hadnt my brother been there. Yeah.. im not saying you're wrong.. but your logic is quite questionable and honestly.. quite frustrating. But what if she killed the boy in a fit of anger and then herself out of guilt, didnt want to dishonor her family with suicide and made it look like a murder. Im not saying this is the case. But consider it atleast.

[@lizlizlive]

I personally don't think this was a suicide, rather a murder case. Such a shame the neighbours didnt call authorities when they heard someone screaming for help, that is so wrong!

[@msgirly6827]

lizlizlive heyy lizz💕

[@sassygranny8450]

I constantly hear people scream outside, it doesn't always mean that you have to call the police..

[@adjoawi]

Listening is vital, the neighbours heard a lady "screaming for help" that is a clear difference from random screams.

[@Lika.aliyah_]

Barry hairy chest Gibb not if you hear Help

[@EclecticThree]

lizlizlive ayyy Liz 💕

[@lynnrose8521]

Don’t be a dispatcher if you’re rude and/or heartless. Much like nursing. Just don’t do it.

[@thedoorman8570]

Also don't work on mental health hotlines!! Rude people working at the DMV or retail? Not the worst, at best inconvenient. Rude people working in critical situations that involve high stress? Literally can be life or death! That's why I think compassion training is imperative for those jobs

[@Anangelfromabove]

Right. Like not even a “hang in there” just cold.

[@queenc28]

and teaching as well not sure if anyone said that but yeah some teachers are.... heartless to say the least

[@RikkieMonster]

@@Anangelfromabove bad choice of words to use "hang" in there.. lol. Just saying

[@Anangelfromabove]

@@RikkieMonster well now it is 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@sumared]

This was no suicide. Naked, bound in an intricate knot, hemorrhaging and the odd message proves this isn’t a suicide. Why is it that common since isn’t that common?

[@_labacanitaz]

the same reason you said "common *SINCE"* and not "common *SENSE!* 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️😂😂😂 no disrespect. i'm just light heartedly joking.

[@kalynrhoads1219]

Not to mention a knife in her literal private parts

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

@@kalynrhoads1219 right. if that doesnt scream “ex-wife did it” idk what does

[@jonathanroach3706]

@@_labacanitaz The english language has nothing to do with common sense....

[@rolydio]

About the message - "She saved him, can you save her?" I think she used witchcraft to try to save the boy who was fighting for her life, so she used witchcraft to try to do it, meaning that she saved the boy, but who is gona save her now? And about the knot and naked, its literarly in that book the tutorial how to do it and woman is naked in the book.

[@isabella3012]

You’re telling me he was a multi-millionaire but didn’t have any cameras on his property? 😑

[@gachaqueen8416]

Thats EXACTLY what I thought!

[@nessarose3234]

seriously yessss

[@SabrinaLynn86]

Coronado is a pretty safe area so that doesn’t surprise me. What surprises me more is that they live across from a VERY nice hotel and the hotel’s cameras didn’t catch anything.

[@GabrielleHayes1921]

I actually have to completely agree with this, that is pretty sketchy.

[@evaneds]

Well I mean it was 18 years ago, idk how much those were used back then

[@amy743]

I wonder why police didn't think to check financial records to see who purchased red rope... if i'm correct, red rope isn't super common to just have laying around the house

[@jasmineblank]

That's a good point actually. I didn't think of that one 🤔

[@aniovakimyan3258]

Amy Gaydosh wow good one

[@Jo-chilin]

Maybe they used cash?

[@rocinadelossantos3479]

They could check local stores and check the cameras at the time of receipts printed that say they bought red rope. If nothing comes up it would be online and have a connection to some sort of card

[@tinaamariee832]

You are correct.

[@jtberry9058]

If the sims has taught me anything it's that sisters named Dina and Nina are never to be trusted.

[@southernhoodoobelle3099]

Bruh😩😂

[@sindu3]

Lmaooooo

[@shonnig81]

Omg 😂😂😂😂

[@corabelekewicz8336]

The Calientes are so sus

[@GinaDangerous]

Omfg 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Liz-cmc313]

It doesn't take a genius to know Rebecca didn't kill herself. It's just sad all around. I hope there is Justice for Rebecca and Max.

[@Undiluted_Liquid]

yup

[@dot7084]

Yea. I agree

[@imtheeviltwin9597]

Just Liz at least if there’s an after life Rebecca and Max have each other

[@ohnoitsmiki]

I honestly thought detectives and police would be smarter than that and have basic knowledge about murder and suicide

[@KezB1]

@@ohnoitsmiki I agree. Amongst all the craziness of this case, I find it impossible to think she committed suicide, naked.. whilst ON HER period for goodness sakes (by the sounds of it). Just no, no way. Police have definitely dropped the ball here.

[@donnaportelli5502]

I can't believe it's even a question whether someone killed her or not... :/

[@lupitaojeda8394]

Donna Portelli I definitely believe it was a murder! How can someone believe it was a suicide...

[@sunflowerlove255]

Especially knowing she was sexually assaulted

[@tunanocrust5670]

I could be confused about something but how can someone tie their own hands behind their back?? Or tie their hands together??

[@skylermay2855]

Tuna No Crust you can tie a tie behind your back however probably not too tight

[@xxmkultraxx1367]

Ik, like how dumb can people get 🙄🙄

[@pltbw2195]

I thought for some reason that 911 could track the phone call and send someone that way.. because I remember when I was a kid, I hit the emergency button and it called 911 and I hung up real quick and the police still came to the house. So why can’t they do that in situations like this!?

[@Barbieel]

That’s exactly what I thought!!! The 911 operator was really getting on my nerve! Like how dare you say “if you don’t give me the address I can’t help you” like wtf???? Imagine if it was a little kid and didn’t know his address! 😐

[@jimmyguerrero5843]

Actually if it was a house phone they can track it but they cannot track a mobile phone

[@ahoyitsmattie]

They can track any phone. My mom says if i have to call 911, stay on the phone bc they can track the phones location

[@rmc169]

Mattie Alexander they can get the information of the general vicinity because of the cell towers but can't known the exact address.

[@aphroditesapple4580]

911 dispatcher here. They can only track exact addresses for landlines. With cell phones, we can track only to the nearest tower.

[@nqqthing]

How are you gonna hear the word "HELP" with screams and not do anything?

[@staceysmith8292]

Kind of like the Bystander effect, people always believe that someone else would have reported it, so they don’t report it themselves

[@LE-zy2od]

@@staceysmith8292 it is bystander effect

[@briannacardoza4933]

literally. i heard a child screaming and i went outside to take a look. turns out it was just a kid that scrapped his knee, but it's always better just to see. these people that heard her screaming and didn't do shit make me sick

[@TheKevs007]

In France it's a criminal offence not to help someone in danger

[@TheNinnyfee]

It may be used as a con. BUT: The most likely reason is that many people are self-absorbed and think that they will be cared for even though they won't do it for others. Stupid AF. If you tolerate/ignore any abuse you are more likely to become victimized.

[@valeriareyes1345]

If she was "committing suicide" why the hell would she scream for help if she wants to end her life? This was definitely not a suicide, she was murdered.

[@rioeeoeeo5887]

Valeria Reyes if this was a suicide which I don't think it was then it's not impossible she screamed. She could've screamed because of the pain or if she was regretting the decision to take her life, which happens a lot. And her hands being tied could have been on purpose in order to make sure she has no way of going back and saving herself if she wishes, hence screaming for help.

[@biancaportillo6552]

that doesn't make sense though because after she "jumped" they find a gag in her mouth. that means she would have been screaming for help for no reason before putting the gag in her mouth while tying herself up preparing to kill herself? so she couldn't have screamed out for help if she regretted the decision because we know that there was something blocking her mouth. she was definitely attacked, silenced, and thrown over that balcony.

[@angiedasner]

How can you scream with a gag in your mouth? This whole story is odd.

[@zacharycoltrane3128]

Exactly

[@naomytaralunga603]

The brother didn't hear her shouting, but the neighbors did.

[@aliv7300]

What the hell is wrong with the 911 operator? Rude

[@Liz-cmc313]

A ...that's what you took away from this story???🤔

[@MindyBeee]

Totally agree

[@browniebunny8409]

Fransie Kanieworry shut the fuck up and grow up

[@CarreAlbers]

Lets also not forget that these are very rich people, they could've bribed some police men.

[@Lauren-fj4nq]

Carré Albers sadly that's very possible

exactly

[@izzydavidson7329]

Carré Albers think of all the evidence that was pushed aside like finger prints DNA on her body ect , easily the family could be protecting someone I.e the brother or someone else.

[@AlyNichelle]

That was my first thought, money talks. Gross but true.

[@carriereid9289]

Carré Albers that is sadly true

[@katieh9056]

Another note about the creepy note written on the door ("she saved him"), Rebecca gave Max CPR while they were waiting for the ambulance. The doctors actually said if it weren't for her CPR, he would have died on the spot and not have even made it to the hospital. Its a detail that came out during the civil suit against Jonah's brother. I followed this case really closely. This case and the 'affluenza' case (which Kendall also covered) make me so mad because they're getting away with murder because they're rich!

[@rachelwilliams7219]

i think Max’s death was an accident. the ex wife was crazy and believed Rebecca killed max though so she killed her.

[@nannybananers]

Rachel Williams Max was still alive when Rebecca was murdered .

[@brooklynjayy]

milMiller maybe she blamed her since she didnt see him, maybe she thought she wasnt doing enough for her son idk

[@nicoleymacaroni]

Exactly . Ppl are so stupid to try to say max was murdered. He was a kid playing on a balcony with a razor scooter and basketball.

[@Fenlan1233]

I believe your right.. I think she was trying to save her sons soul with a ritual witch craft by sacrificing Rebecca.. what a weirdo psycho..

[@madapigi1]

Nah, rebecca killed him.

[@raliyahsharee]

I hate the operator attitude 😒

[@Dingdongaccountant]

Raliyah sharee I agree. It’s like she was unconvinced

[@Beautyinthebreakdown.]

That's what really pissed me off!!

[@thatradiantgal]

Gurrrl I thought it was just me! She had such an attitude with him about the address. When all they had to do was trace the call, TF?

[@jessicarowland5059]

If nothing else, this video has taught me that most 911 calls have operators that consider their jobs similar to that of a Verizon service call. I mean, she could have at least told the emt the address, instead of making him say it again. He was clearly upset and exhausted

[@Caitilizzie]

Me too, ugh. I'm glad i'm not the only one who was pissed off by her

[@lizzdoe2821]

Yelling and yelling for help disproves suicide I think....

[@samscenefordummies8706]

Unless they regretted their decision once they were hanging, but yeah, for this case that seems true

[@RileyEmmaViolet]

Sam Scene For Dummies she was gagged at that point and hanging OUTSIDE the house

[@paigecoleman1628]

Yeah and the freaking knife in her Coochie

[@tickledtoffee]

@@samscenefordummies8706 how did she scream while hanging by a rope around her neck and with a gag in her mouth?

[@deliasmith6506]

@@samscenefordummies8706 are you dense?

[@trodriguez6024]

I feel like the police department didn't even try. The justice system once again failed a person. There was so much evidence that it wasn't suicide!

[@yolandabowden7508]

I agree with you all the way. The police never even consider anything else to me. If I see it wrong I would love to hear any other explanation from anybody else.

[@yolandabowden7508]

Oh and one more thing. It would seem right now and this time and fresh I know this is a year ago and I know I'm super late with this but it was seeing that when people have means to having money or have the connection to have money or have some type of connection with people being able to help you with money sometimes people with money get away alit of stuff where if they didn't have those things or lifestyle's it would have been over. I truly don't believe she killed herself

[@BeTh-kx9xj]

I bet someone tried to sacrifice her to save max, he wasn’t dead at this point and it would explain the book, the ritualistic way in which she was killed and the message on the door. If someone was trying to save max then they were probably a member of the family who was personally attached to him.

[@jacob8408]

OMFG THATS IT i have a theory, someone actually pushed max. (i dont know who) and the person who pushed max wanted to make it seem like rebecca did it so the ex wife would get full custody of max, but it didnt turn out well so they tried to sacrifice her to max...

[@BryanHeartBreaker]

That’s not how you sacrifice someone though. It involves a lot more than some red rope and a few knots. It was made to look that way.

[@leilani_808]

beth woodall with all these others odd facts here in this story, your comment is one of the strangest - but makes the MOST sense.

[@Moonessence1]

Omg that book has NOTHING to do with sacrifices, please get educated on real witchcraft and not Hollywood witchcraft 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@martinacampagnaro8673]

What if someone not expert in witchcraft tried to save max using that book? That would make sense to me

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

One more thing, NINA is DINA’s identical twin sister! Someone said they saw someone who looked like Dina the night she was killed around midnight, but Dina has a solid alibi.....hmmm. Does her TWIN sister?

[@jlynmar281]

Kara Ruckle whattttttt

[@victoriavatic5401]

Omg...

[@mariahenriquez2988]

omg!!

[@water8970]

not to mention the fact that the writing on the wall that was supposedly written by Rebecca reads "She saved him, you could save her." If it was written by Rebecca, wouldn't it say "I saved him, you can save me."

[@ElleEasternSuburbsMum]

How do you hear someone screaming for help and do nothing😑

[@kidistandco]

Elle Handley Exactly! I understand if they didn’t want to run over there in case they put themselves in danger, but they could’ve called 911 and reported the screaming so someone could at least check the property??

[@ElleEasternSuburbsMum]

KxW I know! It’s so crazy to me! I understand if it could be mistaken for playing around etc but she was screaming “help”!!

[@LOhaha94]

Bystander affect. They probably thought someone else would call the police.

[@tiarawatson708]

Elle Handley And call it a suicide. come on!

[@duck8238]

Right! Its one thing to hear strange noises and not go check up on your neighbour but its a whole different thing to actually hear them screaming help like come on!

[@newperson8758]

wild theory: dina and adam tried to "sacrifice" rebbeca to save max? explains the witchcraft book and the writings on the door.

[@nhmooytis7058]

So many of these bizarre killings have killers who were into the occult.

[@darksister535]

Interesting!!!!!!

[@noneya2444]

I have that book, it has nothing to do with spells of that nature. 🙄

[@arickak.7364]

Or they tried to kill the boy and when they thought he might live in the hospital they killed her to make her look guilty

[@EChl07.]

@@noneya2444 fr

[@Enjemnsnens]

The fact she was sexually assaulted with a knife leads me to believe Max’s mother was involved....when women sexually assault other women, they have to use objects...and if she genuinely believed Rebecca killed Max or injured him, she may have been enraged enough to take that action...

[@Andreawbs]

In murder cases, the victim is usually sexually assaulted with an object whether it’s a man or female, most likely because they don’t want to risk getting their DNA on her body.

[@breanna5737]

I agree. witnesses saw her there. she hated rebecca. her kid is dying....i think she is a bigger part of this than being led on. But she is a woman and rich, she'd get away with it if she did do it. If not, then i'm glad and sorry for her loss. I just hate that this case isn't solved and no justice is found, whomever it is.

[@fighttheevilrobots3417]

@@breanna5737 why are several of your comments on this site anti-woman?

[@lissa9714]

she wasn't at the crime scene.

[@cherryvoid5238]

@@lissa9714 She could have payed someone to do it.

[@opinionated530]

There’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that she was murdered...the officer must have known this too. I wonder how they could possibly rule it a suicide in good conscious.

[@KhanMann66]

Opinionated No suspect, not enough evidence, got the media breathing down their necks and of course bribes/corruption.

[@marianaballan4909]

Her husband is rich so maybe he covered it up and payed people to shut up to protect adam or someone else

[@rachelh7261]

I think it has to do with the fact that Jonah and his family are rich. They most likely used their power to persuade or threaten the police officers and/or coroner to look the other way and close the case

[@Njmnz4]

I believe she was murdered as well.

[@richardgonzales5966]

Money talks

[@meleeanne97]

if she was screaming loud enough for the neighbors to hear, why didn't adam hear it? hoping we get more info

[@_.morgaannn]

That’s exactly what I said !!!

[@mollyfoxxx]

Adam did it. It would take a fool not to see that, even the bloody boot prints match.

[@victoriagabriella1103]

Who knows...he could've been snoring loudly,, passed out from drinking. He could've had music playing, we don't know the property layout...his location on the property may not have carried the sound his way. I agree its weird, but not impossible. I know men that will sleep through you yelling their name a foot from the bed in the same room so... Also, if you flew into town to murder your brothers wife (which if your that wealthy im sure a random unconnected hit man would be hired) but if that was your plan, would you have your alibi be that you were the only other person on the property that night with her and that you then also found her in the morning? That's a weak attempt at getting away with murder.

[@theoriginaltunnelfox]

My husbands a very heavy sleeper, a lot of men are, it’s definitely plausible that he really didn’t hear her.

[@shauneevampyre]

They were also in a mansion. The neighbours may have been the other side of the wall, Adam could have been the opposite end of the house.

[@nono-fb8tr]

the bruises on max's back look like the damn scooter which he fell on! this woman is so vindictive and jealous that she wants so desperately to blame rebecca for max's death and she wants her son to have been murdered! what a jealous and vile woman she definitely had something to do with rebecca's death

[@pukljica]

Agree!

[@jessica1lopez]

What I'm thinking, too. She was around the house, too. After she did it, she probably ran away to some other place in the house, and make it seem as if she didn't do it.

[@user-qh1mx]

i completely agree. 1 rebecca had no motive to hurt max 2. the mom did everything she could to make rebecca seem guilty when she had more motive to hurt her own kid than rebecca did

[@faithfox8851]

I also think it’s incredibly telling that she thinks and thought Rebecca had something to do with it. even though she wasn’t there when it occurred, she had all the motive in her mind to conspire to kill her.

[@courtneykalmar2332]

I think max was riding the scooter around and tripped cause the wheel got stuck on the carpet and fell over the banister and Diana was convinced Rebecca was at fault for her son getting hurt and teamed up with Adam to kill her for revenge for her son being hurt cause he wasn’t dead yet and Adam agreed to help her thinking he was probably gonna get something out of it and to save her ass she left the house to go to the hospital while he did all the dirty work and now that the sons dead I think the husband/boyfriend knows the ex wife was involved and is saving her ass cause he also blames Rebecca for the sons death because she wasn’t in the room to watch after and prevent him from falling

[@sinzianaandreea4234]

so you are telling me that she tied her OWN HANDS???bcs nobody can buy this

[@emilywarden1979]

And feet? And jumped to the edge and went over? Ridiculous

[@ritaalves8854]

tony swabbs yes and don’t forget she was on her period, so she kills herself naked on her period??!! Makes no sense at all

[@Julianell97]

I mean the blood on the knife, if it was proven that it WAS in fact inserted in her....theres no way she did that to HERSELF

[@eve9325]

Julia Nell exactly especially if she was tied up that way

[@sofiamaricic3137]

@@angelturnbo6779 i am no expert, but i watched enough of criminal minds to think that, whoever used a knife to assault this woman was wither impotent or just didn't have a penis, but it could be the brother

[@morgan7147]

Adam (panicking because his brother's girlfriend is dead): you sent someone here yesterday for a little boy, can't you find the address that way? 911 dispatch: I wasn't working yesterday, I don't know ARE. YOU. KIDDING. ME?!?!?!

[@crochetingcanuck]

She then said she did check the previous days records and couldn't find anything. I wonder if she actually did because that response seemed a little too quick.

[@kumimanufordycei]

Crocheting Canuck that’s because they came to get him three days before, not one day so of course she wouldn’t find record of that for just the day before, and idk I feel like as his uncle he should have known how many days before?

[@BabyDDaily]

Chloe Quarles how does he not know his brothers address?

[@crochetingcanuck]

@@BabyDDaily I know how to get to my brother's and sister's and in-laws' houses but I can never remember the street names or house numbers.

[@emmalouise7884]

@@BabyDDaily I dont know any of my siblings addresses without looking in my address book.

[@thenerdygirlblog]

For me it's the gag that makes me think this was murder. If you were going to commit suicide why would you gag yourself? That's something you'd do to someone if you didn't want their screams to be heard.

[@sierrapadgett7300]

How could they just turn their heads and call this a suicide? This proves what the evils of money can do.

[@shesacamper1497]

I don't think Rebecca committed suicide because why would she be naked, have been molested, gagged and hands tied behind her back? Seems like a lot of trouble when she could have just tied the rope around her neck and to the railing and jumped. I think Max and Rebecca's deaths are both shady. Interesting video and content Kendall. Thanks!!

[@marianaballan4909]

Shesacamper 1 maybe all of the stuff like being naked and tying herself is a part of the ritual. If only we know what was written in that book... what was the ritual for...

[@audreyhewitt5345]

I know some stuff about witchcraft because I am a witch . That ritual seems realy odd. It could be black magic but it still would be very odd. I haven't ever heard of a spell or ritual having you be naked in public. Let alone having you tie rope around your neck. Red candles means lust, personal empowerment, inner strength, courage, and energy. You Use red candles when you want to feel stronger, more proactive, empowered, or take control over your own circumstances. So maybe that had something to do with the red rope but the ritual/spell seems very odd to me.

[@audreyhewitt5345]

Mariana Ballan also i think you can still get the book

[@Strawberrycream100]

Audrey Hewitt what kind of witch are you?

[@Strawberrycream100]

Audrey Hewitt do you believe in heaven and hell?

[@stargazed8250]

I think Max's death was an accident. Then Rebecca's was a murder. I think Dina thought Rebecca killed max. And Dina either killed her or sent someone to kill her.

[@NoBody-he5gt]

@Sacred AG she could've hired someone

[@myhextixmind8632]

@Sacred AG you didn't read the "or sent someone to kill her" part, did you?

[@sueb2898]

Rebecca did NOT kill herself and that child was thrown by an adult!

[@samg461a]

I personally think Max’s death was an accident but Rebecca was murdered by Dina and her siblings because she thought Rebecca hurt her son. It wouldn’t surprise me that Max would have jumped off the banister. He was a kid and kids do stupid things. My brother once jumped off the top of his bunk bed in Superman pose because he said he could fly.

[@imsad7821]

Samantha Godard same

[@jenniferl5291]

Exactly and if he was using his scooter he could have tried to go down the banister on it

[@sarahdohring1551]

My brother jumped off the stairs with a plastic shopping bag over his shoulders because he thought it would work like a parachute.

[@ruthbell8641]

I jumped over a pile of glass thinking I was superman.. we all know what happened 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@makardeku]

not to ignore the topic, but when i was younger me and my sister had a bunk bed, but we would put lots of pillows on the floor and leap off lmfao , one step ahead , gravity 😎 lol

[@liviawhitesel5320]

The child died in an accident- stair accidents are way more common than what people believe. The woman was probably murdered out of spite for what had happened, and the book and notes and things were planted to make it appear to be ritualistic suicide

[@stanzaschulz4339]

yes

[@misssnowrose9401]

Livia Whitesel and spot on

[@yumihimeko3344]

the bruises on max’s back doesn’t even look like the banister, it looks like he landed on top of his scooter when he fell

[@emmakatehow]

This comment was written a year ago and you might not see this but I had a bruise on my back about 2 years ago and it was not hurting that bad but I could tell somthing was there so I went to my mom and she rushed me to a clinic so they looked at it and asked me if someone had possible pushed me on a swing that day I was in elementary so I said yes because a girl did push me that day but I thought it could have been when I fell off the bed that day because she wasnt pushing me hard but the doctor said that it was a perfect square for two small hands to fit so of course evryone believed the doctor and do he gave me 2 shots and medicine (it was cherry 😫🤢🤮) and the medicine was nasty I had to take it every day for 1 and a half weeks and the shots were both in my WEAK arm so I couldn't really feel anything in that arm that day so I am assuming what you said is correct because doctors dont always really believe that much they jump to the most possible conclusions

[@emmakatehow]

Possibly*

[@brandigabriel6921]

That's what I was thinking too.

[@sydneyshelton651]

I know this a time jump but also they said Rebecca was trying to cut herself free with the knife, and there’s a possibility that she could have stabbed or injured the person that attacked her, but they didn’t check to see if anyone had a fresh wound on them,also they could of had Adam, or the ex wife write on a door with paint to see if it looked like the other message at all, this case was poorly investigated and it saddens me that she suffered that much and is then accused of killing herself there’s no way she could of tied her hands behind her back and then tie the noose around her neck and then jump off a balcony, and you would think if she did kill herself that she would of at least left a note to her loved ones, I’m praying that she and max are peaceful playing together in heaven.

[@onlytheflowerknow]

That's true, it does seem like that

[@believeinyourself1370]

Even if it was "possible" for her to tie her own hands that doesn't explain Why ON eArTH anybody would do that. Plus it doesn't explain why or how she also gagged herself, tied her feet, got naked and managed to jump of a balcony??? Bruh

[@dunlapchantel]

Seen this case on breaking homicide .....that girl did not kill herself

[@EmilyVioletMarie]

chantel dunlap agreed

[@maggie1000]

There is no way! They’re saying she hit herself on the back of the head 4x, somehow with no real experience tied her hands behind her back, and then managed to throw herself off the balcony without any abrasions?

[@CrustyUgg]

One of my biggest fears is dying naked.. I feel like whoever came to get my body would just point and laugh at my grossness and then use a bulldozer to pick me up

[@Porcheria002]

smokingcrack issaferthantidepods Omfg same

[@checkmattee222]

smokingcrack issaferthantidepods omg😂😂 me too

[@healedatonce]

smokingcrack issaferthantidepods same

[@9786oof]

Jamie D it's definitely decent forethought

[@katykipling]

smokingcrack issaferthantidepods likewise 😅

[@JustIngrid1999]

I think it’s crazy how a mansion would not have security footage

[@jen.heifer]

Ingrid Alemán well I mean would you have security cameras in your house? Just because it’s a mansion doesn’t mean anything. It’s someone’s home. Their place of living. Not everyone has security cameras in their house

[@UrbanDecayLova247]

Jennifer Armstrong right! This isn’t a movie, he probably didn’t think security cameras were needed. Not every rich person is thinking like that.

[@GeminiTheDoll]

Jenny Marie hell yes ! If your rich you should know you could get robbed or someone could be taken for ransom , cameras are important for anyone ! Even poor people , just put them in hallways and it’s not creepy or weird but it keeps you safe ! You’d never know what you’d see with those cameras! Those cameras often expose child abuse and more.

[@kamcorder3585]

If Rebecca really committed suicide, she put a lot of effort into making it look like foul play

[@TaraTara-xs1qz]

What if the ex wife and the brother decided to kill Rebecca because they blamed her for Max’s death?? It’s a strong motive.

[@winkycogaming3520]

Thats what I was thinking

[@annap7836]

He wasn't dead yet, though. But maybe killing her would save him with their weird witchcraft beliefs.

[@adierf6077]

Tara Hamid little max wasn’t dead yet and as far as they new he might survive

[@nicoleymacaroni]

The only motive.

[@AwesomeFlamingoX]

just because he wasn’t dead yet doesn’t make that motive any weaker. he was in critical condition

[@albajeantualla8826]

That big ass House ddnt have no surveillance cameras?!?!?! 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@mercyk6064]

alba jean Tualla exactly!!! Smh

[@Lizarddqueen79]

alba jean Tualla right!?

[@cassiejo1426]

This is the reason I want to be a 911 operator. These ops were so rude and made the situation worse...I want to calm people down and have a CALMING nature....these were very rude people...

[@sophiepiper1]

We’re not all like that.

[@misssnowrose9401]

Pls do

[@chunkchips4554]

I hope you do it and always keep your calm nature and remember people may be calling you on some of their worst days 💗

[@iramrafiq5075]

I agree

[@heezypeasy8611]

Same. Not all but so many that are on these shows seem impatient. I feel like I might be a little too compassionate and empathetic to be a 911 operator.

[@malloriegould5050]

I have a son who has been trick-riding scooters for years. The mark on the little boy's back is 100% the handlebars of the scooter. You can clearly see the grips, the thicker part where the bars meet, and the mark on the bottom is from the deck being sideways. I've seen those marks before on kids who have wiped out on or been hit by their scooters when they wipe out

[@22amboo]

911 dispatchers always sound like they’re so bothered by everyone that calls them lmao.

[@rebskidoodles]

"911 the fuck you want?"

[@itsalwaysbeenyourmother1780]

Kristine Yu lmaoo!😂💀that’s how it be tho

[@aacrvbbv]

Kristine Yu 😭😭😭😭LMAO

[@matsamnicfam]

For them its just another day i guess....like working in retail, eventually everyone starts to annoy you.. 🤣

[@mortyjansen399]

It’s because of all the Karens calling 911 so they can harass black people with the help of police. - that must be tiresome to most. Imagine taking those calls.

[@kirkbrandt2349]

Wait. So a lady heard her screaming “Ah ah, help help!” And didn’t call police or anything?.. WTF

[@yourfavourite28]

The 911 operator was useless

[@anglm85]

Jess McGill Yes! And so rude!

[@Hollowinpumpkin]

Yes!! Like the man is freaking out and she’s no damn help, it frustrated lol

[@leesee22ag]

Right! She was absolutely so help at all.

[@_MMartel]

Thought I was the only one that noticed. She was horrible, I would be disappointed if I called 911 with a horrible issue like that and they don’t help

[@franklacosta9613]

Operator is incompetent!

[@moniquemariemuniz]

I worked across the street at the resturant when this happened. It was the brother in law and ex wife.

[@StartFromScratch1]

is this official now?

[@sarai373]

And money talks.... Rich people tend to get away with murder literally. Well some do.

[@oliviabreen431]

What struck me as most odd was that Adam admitted to doing CPR and yet there was no evidence of his DNA found anywhere on Rebecca's body. That to me is the most damning piece of evidence, but I'm also not sure what it all means or that, if he did commit the crime, he acted entirely alone. Rich people can also buy off other people, like cops or coroners, so I also think maybe Jonah was involved in some sort of monetary way. Whether he knew about the murder before hand or not, I don't know. But it seems to me that Rebecca was most likely murdered.

[@Gos1234567]

Olivia Breen yea that bit doesn’t make sense at all,maybe the test wasn’t done properly or too long after the death

[@marissaghost]

I think the idiot tried to erase any evidence that he was involved in the murder, and completely forgot that if he was going to claim he did cpr that he actually needed some dna on her

[@dianadia6490]

You human are genius ty

[@stanzaschulz4339]

HA SERIOUSLY. Thats exactly what happened.

[@lvalencia811]

Olivia Breen po de acuerdo al texto que dtttsss

[@savannahvick5266]

Adam said that he did rescue breaths on her. So how was there none of his DNA on her? Even chest compressions would leave his DNA on her body. He would have to touch the rope to cut her down too. So how exactly is none of the DNA on her or the ropes his? Seems like someone cleaned up a crime scene.

[@caylynhundley516]

savannah vick gloves?? Im not for sure

[@CourtneyK87]

Please do a video or podcast on Curtis Flowers. He has been convicted five times for four murders and sentenced to death, but every time, it's overturned. It's a crazy and horribly sad story. Everyone needs to know this story.

[@heyitsaimee30]

Courtney Kolenda there is a podcast I’ve been listening to and it’s called In The Dark and they are currently discussing the Curtis Flowers case, it’s such an interesting story! Definitely agree everyone should know about it!

[@merysidi4302]

yesss do it!!

[@alexandrarodriguez3895]

I had heard in another video that Adam was also a suspect since searches were found in his computer about asian women and bondage

[@AwesomeShelbiNicole]

There is 💯 no way she killed herself and on top of that I also 💯 do not believe Max's fall was an accident.

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

TheSalisburyFamVlogs I don’t believe she killed herself, but I also don’t believe she hurt Max. I read a lot into this case and there’s counter evidence to what Dina’s lawyer used. I feel like Dina is doing what a lot of mothers/parents do in cases like this: look for someone to blame. Pretty clear to me that Max was attempting to slide down the railing with his scooter and of course it didn’t work and he reflectively tried saving himself with the chandelier. Jonah said himself that Max loved Rebecca and they were very close, so I can’t see her being involved in killing or hurting him.

[@jenniferbright2506]

I don't think Max was killed but Rebeccas death is 100% a murder!

[@roseandrews8523]

Agreed. Maybe satanic sacrifice?

[@hippyvanobsessed]

Likewise. I totally agree x

[@morjys4934]

I think maybe Dina could’ve convinced Adam that it was all Rebecca’s fault (for Max falling) and had him kill her

[@Gwenny_Black]

Nope. She didn’t kill her self. Someone hanging himself naked is psychologically strange and rather untrue. The red string, the note, the book, the knives, the footprints and neighbors hearing her screaming for help... come on. It was murder.

[@priscillaaquino7400]

100% murder. Revenge for Max (even though that seemed like an accident). Ex wife and brother had something to do with it.

[@heezypeasy8611]

I absolutely believe the incident with Max was an accident.

[@user-qh1mx]

I completely agree. I don't think that Rebecca thad anything to do with max (no motive, she loved him like her own) but his bio mom certainly had a motive for both of them. 1.) she hated that Max and Rebecca had a great relationship 2.) she really wanted to make it seem like Rebecca killed Max. Wether she did it with her own hands I really really think she seems *very* guilty

[@merber6070]

The forensic pathologist said it was for sure not an accident

[@roatanrealestateexperts1111]

Also it was noted in several reports that when Johan and Dina divorced there were allegations of abuse in both sides!

[@PillarManKars]

This is exactly why I don’t feel comfortable calling 911. They’re constantly annoyed and sound bothered when you call their lines even when you desperately need help. It’s ridiculous.

[@skinnypigs1]

Certainly seems like a lot of work to go through prior to ending your life. I am sure someone else was involved. It is too bad the neighbour who heard the yelling/screaming wasn't able to call that in at the time.

[@maggie1000]

skinnypigs1 It doesn’t make sense to me how Adam was in the house but didn’t hear the yelling himself. I mean sure he could be a heavy sleeper but if someone could easily hear it from another house I feel like it would’ve woken him up

[@morjys4934]

EXACTLY! I was wondering the same thing if other people could hear it why not you

[@amyh1509]

Im not defending him at all..just pointing something out. Adam was actually staying in the guest house, not the mansion. It also came out that he took Ambien the night of her "suicide". Not saying the man is innocent by any means, just want to keep facts straight.

[@maggie1000]

Amy H Oh ok I didn’t know that! That makes more sense then that he didn’t hear it

[@user-ri2qn4qo4k]

Agreed, I've never heard of anyone committing suicide in such an elaborate way. I don't buy this for a second. She was murdered and I'm disgusted that neighbors heard her screaming for help and did nothing. I've called 911 a number of times over the years when I've heard sketchy stuff/breaking glass/people yelling or even fighting just to be on the safe side. I'd much rather be safe than sorry and I'd hope that someone would do the same for me if something horrible was happening and they heard it. We have to look out for one another.

[@Kay-tw6sm]

So... The NEIGHBOUR was able to hear Rebecca scream for help but not Rebecca’s brother? How do you sleep through that? I also found it weird that the brother admitted to ignoring instructions to tip Rebecca’s head back and didn’t do mouth to mouth because ‘it was his brother’s girl’. WTF. I’m pretty sure Rebecca’s husband could forgive his brother for doing mouth to mouth on his dying wife. It’s as if he didn’t want to save Rebecca because he feared he’d be caught.

[@reginamachamer821]

I mean honestly I've myself slept through a gunshot going off in my tiny house, so I think it's definitely possible for him to sleep through her yelling in a giant mansion. Also he said he did do mouth to mouth. He said "I know it's my brother's girl but I just said fck it.." or whatever. Not saying he's definitely innocent or anything just putting this out there.

[@Braininterrupted6]

Why the hell did they not help him with compressions? Idk I found that 911 call to be so annoying I am a dispatcher as well I don’t see how they couldn’t have helped find the address. Jesus

[@meganmunoz8588]

L&L Gang Do you need any special schooling to be a 911 dispatcher? Also, does it cause you stress or anxiety at times? Do you enjoy it? What kind of person does it take to aid people in such hard times? Sorry for all the questions but I always wanted to help aid tragedies in some way. I'm just not sure how yet..

[@zac7790]

M &m's I do think they give you a bit of training. You should try it out but remember you can hear some messed up stuff, some have actually heard people be murdered on the phone. As long as you can leave that behind then you'd be alright. You need to remain calm and try to get as much information as possible. After that you can be compassionate.

[@meganmunoz8588]

Zac D'santos Thanks for the advice. I have to really think this one through. I'm an anxious person so I wonder if I am even capable of going through that. I think I would have a really hard time if I heard someone die on the phone. I'd probably think there was something I didn'tt do right and somehow be responsible. I never know unless I try though right?

[@Braininterrupted6]

M &m's it’s something that many dispatchers have that one call that haunts them, i have a few. I’m not sure if you believe in a higher calling, but if you do you would have to know in your gut you did all that you could for that person. I have horrible anxiety, but it seems to help soothe me when I know I’m helping save someone’s life.

[@meganmunoz8588]

L&L Gang Wow...kudos to you.

[@brittbratt1103]

I appreciate that Kendall give warnings on her videos, so we as the viewers can decide what videos/ parts of videos we need to skip. I have PTSD and had trouble finding true crime videos that give warnings before I found her. I don't have to worry about clicking on a video and being scared that it'll give me a panic attack

[@steph9054]

Just because Dina was in the hospital during the time of the murder doesn't mean she couldn't have set someone else up to do it. Especially considering her sister was thought to be involved the person seen who looked like Dina could've been her sister. Idk why the police weren't more suspicious about this, how is this not clearly a murder?!

[@kayles5457]

How to get away with murder: Rich People edition

[@CrystalCares]

I agree totally

[@theoriginaltunnelfox]

Spoiler alert. It’s money. Always.

[@giulianaherrera7775]

So weird that on the 911 call he said “I got a girl” and “same place you came and got the kid yesterday” instead of saying I found my brothers girlfriend dead or my nephew was found dead here yesterday. Like wtf!

[@brianajohnson8172]

Giuliana Herrera I thought that too

[@savanalange5938]

Yeah...

[@interestingusername2633]

Giuliana Herrera he just stumbled upon someone in his relatively immediate family HANGING. He obviously wouldn’t be thinking straight and probably wouldn’t be able to give a quick and intricate description.

[@giulianaherrera7775]

Rhea C I know I’d say my brothers girlfriend not “I got a girl”

[@giulianaherrera7775]

Rhea C in trying to get across that it’s weird

[@idrinkshreksusedswampwater]

Honestly, I feel like the crazy ex-wife killed Rebecca because she thought Rebecca did that to max, and I also think that the way Rebecca died, (hanging, gagged, NAKED), was meant to humiliate her. Thus, giving a relief of jealousy for the ex-wife. I feel so terrible for Rebecca and the suffering she went through in her last moments...

[@yipyip6699]

Could be true. And she then made sure that she was seen at the hospital as an alibi.

[@0Flow0]

If the neighbours heard the scream how didn't the guy hear it? There was a message on the door and she was killed in a ritualistic way. Someone must have hated her. I wonder what the part in the book says, what is the tying for?

[@ElsiaStar]

0Flow0 someone find the page in this book and analyze it!! I tried looking for it but couldn’t find it.

[@justanotherperfectionistxx4618]

And if her death was on the 12th, that was a Tuesday

[@fbiagentfrank]

Exactly what I've been wondering. If this whole situation was in the book, what kind of situation is it meant for?

[@jisellealvarez9974]

I was wondering the same thing?! What is the ritual for??

[@Dnttashme]

Well he was also asleep, maybe hes a deep sleeper?

[@poojalarouxja]

30 minute video from Kendall... I’ve been blessed 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@jasmine3847]

PC Goes by so quickly, though! Time flies when you’re having fun😅

[@killionaire3651]

They do fly by 😭 now ill watch older videos no prob though lol.

[@ketteringgirl]

Lol after you said this, I realized I watched that video for that long! I didn't see the video time beforehand... then again, I could definitely listen to Kendall Rae for forever and not get bored 😊

[@Nayababy804]

That 911 operator was pissing me off the whole call when the brother was on the phone omggg

[@Elizabeth-fu6rm]

Naya Baby SAME she was so rude!

[@kaelinoel3927]

It makes PERFECT sense to me that the mom would want the step mom dead after having her son fatally injured on the stop moms watch. The suicide theory holds no water in my opinion and doesn’t make any sense.

[@MadyLeeMoore]

How many times does he have to give the address! That was stressing me out. on a more real note this is a very sad story. Poor kiddo and woman. I hope everyone is able to find closure somehow.

[@venuslowe]

so she stripped herself, sexually assaulted herself, tied herself up, gaged herself and hung herself? yeah, no

[@nicoleloves9483]

Another “rich people get away with anything” story...... 😞

[@2slick4bs]

Yup

[@Rainbows_22]

I think the dude intentionally acted like he didn’t remember the address on the 911 call. Because she was still alive at that time.

[@Godsgirlieee123]

That emergency dispatcher was pissing me off

[@carolinekivlehan6063]

Bridget Squires agreed

[@Beautyinthebreakdown.]

Yeah me too! They deal with life and death situations so remain calm but they were just like.. bored!! Madness!

[@dallascowboys4292]

I called the cops on a neighborly domestic dispute and to this day I'm glad I did. Police intervention may have saved her life. Just wish more people would do the same. Hear something, say something.

[@meganmunoz8588]

CowboyMatt 214 Thank you!

[@beckieross9122]

My theory is Max’s mum did it. I think she pushed max or had something to do with his fall so she could blame it on Rebecca and maybe get full custody or make Jonah leave Rebecca thinking she did something to max. But Max’s fall was more serious then she planned so she had to think of another way to get Rebecca out the way, and she killed her.

[@nabeeha3131]

I thought so too, but apparently the police found Dina on camera at the hospital around the time Rebecca was murdered. So she couldn't have done it, but she does have a good motive for killing Rebecca.

[@moldyboy186]

911: What's the address? Person on the Phone: T-ten... ten forty three ocean boulevard! 911:Ten Forty Three Ocean Boulevard? Person on the Phone:Y-yes! 911:Okay, Now can you give me an address?

[@ryancarson8461]

The police and whole case in general are so aggravating, I just can't see how or why Rebecca would hang herself in such a bizarre way even when Max hadn't died yet. I didn't believe Adam did it until you mentioned how they had found none of his DNA on her body which just seems really odd. I can't explain Max's death but I feel like Dina would have a reason to kill Rebecca out of anger for the whole situation so maybe Dina and Adam conspiracized to kill Rebecca? I'm not 100% sure who did it but I know there is no way Rebecca committed suicide.

[@maggie1000]

ryan carson I didn’t think Adam did it either until they said none of his DNA was found even though he claimed to have cut her down and give her CPR and such. I feel like whatever happened to Max the family blamed her for it because she was there so Adam killed her. The thing is though I don’t feel like she killed Max but then who did?

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

ryan carson it wasn’t mentioned here but they also found on Adam’s phone from that same morning and night before, he was looking up and watching “Asian bondage porn”. Too coincidental for me!!

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

Magdalie Mexile no one killed max imo. The evidence with Max has been debated back and forth. I think he just was trying to slide down the bannister on his scooter and he fell and tried to save himself with the chandelier bc he had a cut on his and and the chandelier came down too

[@sorrybro136]

Kara Ruckle I totally agree with you...like rebecca loved max and she will not gain any profit by killing him..even if she killed max out of jealousy her boyfriend also had other 2 sons with another ex wifes...So i dont think she could have done it ...I think the family were just sad and wanted some1 to blame

[@Xforeverlove21]

Maybe Dina & Adam were having a secret relationship or affair

[@bbygirl1076]

Rich people get away with anything: Case Closed

[@avery.chillman]

Bbygirl so true

[@mina0rahman]

LMAO true.

[@andrealong4948]

Don’t like being the 666 like here...

[@aacrvbbv]

Period

[@cherrybubbles2]

No, she did not kill her self. Sounds to me like they believed Rebecca killed Max and had Adam come over and kill her. Because they are so rich, they were able to buy their way out of the situation. That’s what I think.

[@amandalopez5893]

Tessa Martin completely agree

[@keeliekalayidol8876]

Been following this story from day 1; Adam is 100% involved.

[@Thomas-uv2vk]

she definitely didn't commit suicide. just by looking at the fact that she was naked.. most of the time, the person who committed the crime leaves the victim naked as a way of embarrassing them and having power over them in a way. this often occurs when it's a man committing the crime and the female being the victim. when a female commits a murder on another female, they either keep them clothed or cover up their body

[@LeannahW]

"Anyone knows you can't go fast on a scooter on carpet" I'm sorry, tell that to many injuries from my childhood lol. If a kid wants to go fast, he'll find a way

[@stephf9206]

The problem wasn't speed but center of gravity. Even if he was going fast there is no way he would have triped and fell over a banister that was pretty well his own height... I think he realized he can't ride on a carpet and hoisted himself up to instead ride the banister before falling

[@koretmulder6316]

Plus I don't know why they keep harping on the physics of the boy, the scooter, the railing, speed, carpet, etc. How many times have you seen kids simply start *climbing* on railings and bannisters? It's such a normal, common thing. Isn't it entirely possible - even likely - that a five year old might simply get off his scooter and start trying to climb onto a railing? Nobody saw him fall. They just found the scooter that he had been riding earlier near the railing.

[@j1ung996]

Koret Mulder They probably are because the whole center of gravity thing is an easy deflection of the big possibility that he just climbed up and tried to do a trick. Its an obvious accident.

[@mickeymouse12678]

@@koretmulder6316 Yeah they were getting incredibly detailed and complex about this whole thing without taking a step back to think. He's a kid. Kids climb things and then fall of them. The scooter doesn't have to be involved, not does it necessarily mean someone pushed him.

[@julieholmes9704]

There's also evidence from the bannister (on the outside of the railing) from where the scooter was in contact with it. I believe on the documents I saw, it was a couple of steps down the staircase, in a couple of areas.

[@hellojazz9365]

It’s frustrating listening to 911 workers being so rude when people are in need of desperate help

[@zeppelin_7245]

I always thought the note was sarcastic. Rebecca 'saved' Max (she didn't; he was in a coma then died) so they can 'save' her too. Like an eye for an eye.

[@alexandralamb168]

That first dispatcher was horrible. I work with dispatchers everyday and i am shocked at her attitude and how she can’t TRY (at least) to find the other call/address. Wtf

[@loveneverfails310]

where did she get the red rope, did she purchase it? its such a specific item, seems like evidence someone brought it and put that book on the dresser. Also, did that book belong to her, did she purchase it? did they check for receipts of any of these very specific items ??

[@BetzyArosemena]

Exactly! The police received a huge amount of money and closed the case. I'm glad the family got to clear her name but we may never find out the truth.

[@elainebines6803]

Rebecca said in her text, she needs to remain strong. The murderers were not counting on that text, going out. It must be to do with the young boys family - I'm pleased that her family did not just turn over and lie down

[@jennacatatum1665]

why did nobody look more into the book they found? i think it’s weird how close the details of her death were to what the book said.

[@kikikomesidou5525]

That book must have fingerprints all over the pages

[@pearlsof5534]

Exactly ritual practice book

[@qui_etes_vous]

i know damn! Just look at the book and see if it has instructions on how to do it.

[@jerryb.2611]

If that lady heard someone yelling “help help!” Why didn’t she do anything about it

[@jtwright4095]

not in a fancy mansion place~~Ocean Drive?! no way! ...?...

[@charlottebennett8634]

she must’ve been too afraid, what if they killed her too? sometimes it feels better to pretend it didn’t happen and hope it goes away.

[@MyChristi123]

Charlotte Bennett she couldn’t called the police ?!

[@anoushkadey2581]

Ummm how is nobody talking about THE WITCHCRAFT BOOK?!?

[@audreyhewitt5345]

You do know that witchcraft is a real thing right?

[@SebastianWolfLove]

The red rope *chills*

[@taycharlese]

Anoushka Dey people don’t take the shit seriously bc we’re programmed to think it isn’t real

[@em-oj5br]

someone literally tried to sacrifice rebecca soul to save max

[@t4rg4ryen]

When i heard witchcraft i when like "Yikes..now i feel bad about myself" and yes witches do exist.

[@mackenzieotlowski1959]

my favorite videos. your explanations are thorough and by far the best on youtube. thank you for the hard work and research put into your videos, it shows an extreme amount. :)

[@angelicagamiz5137]

kenzie otlowski agreed:)

[@KendallRae]

Thank you Kenzie!!

[@mamo8338]

Agree

[@user-qh1mx]

my theory: I don't think that rebecca had anything to do with max (no motive) but I think that the bio mom is helllllla guilty. she did everything she could to make it seem like rebecca hurt max. she could've EASILY been in kahoots with the brother and he killed rebecca under the mom's request/pressuring. to me it seems like the bio mom is more likely to have hurt her own kid than rebecca and by killing rebecca she could frame her more easily