Citroen / Peugeot wet timing belt replacement 1.2 puretech

[@glenohara6563]

Hats off to you pete, old school confidence and smarts applied to new school problems, you are a skilled tradesman no doubt.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you for the compliment Glen, but I’m only in the same boat as all the rest of us. Most techs try their best everyday 🙏🙏👍

[@shakalpb1164]

That way you put on the Water pump belt is outright genius

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I can’t even remember how I done it but thank you very much 🙏🙏🙏

[@kevinpalmer7452]

Another fantastic tutorial Peter some great work around there. Brilliant idea on getting that stretchy belt on. Every time I do a timing belt I have that mental drumroll before I turn the KEY😂

[@kennedysgarage3281]

That scary couple of seconds beforehand 😂😂😂 We all feel the same, at least it isn’t only me 😊😊

[@doorhandles64]

Only came across your channel lately Peter, and I must congratulate on some of the best, down to earth & real life techniques that are required in "normal" garages. Keep up the good work 👍

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you very much Michael 🙏🙏 As you probably well know this trade can be tough & expensive, so anything we can do to make it that little bit easier is going to help. I do appreciate you time in watching & commenting. Chat soon 😉🙏🙏🙏

[@mechanicmatt871]

That first turn of the key is always worrying for me too, even after turning over by hand first. I've never done one of those belts. Thanks for the video

[@kennedysgarage3281]

That moment when the heart beats a little bit fast Matt 😂😂 It is a well designed engine & handy enough to change, which is unusual nowadays 👍👍

[@trevormansfield6740]

Another good one Peter. I haven’t done one of these yet either so your saving me loads of time as I can just follow this when I do. Your right about a little anxiety when first turning the key mate 😆😆Thanks again

[@kennedysgarage3281]

It’s handy to see it being done beforehand, it takes a little bit of the unknown out of it. We all get that same feeling on first turn of the key 😂😂😂 Part of the job, thanks Trevor 🙏🙏👍

[@colinblythe3710]

ANOTHER 5 STAR video of a job in real life - thanks for taking the time to video & posting

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you very much Colin, I really appreciate that 😉🙏🙏🙏

[@philip.aocallaghan4602]

I love your videos, you are honest and very confident in what you do... please keep the videos coming I'd love to see a Ranger Evoque.. with the ingenium engine timing chain being replaced ... Just a taught 😬

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@philip.aocallaghan4602 thank you very much 🙏🙏🙏 I have a 3 part video on it in a discovery

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@philip.aocallaghan4602 this is part 2 Landrover Discovery, timing chain replacement kzbin.info/www/bejne/n56yhYKAnLOgrcU

[@KeithMoore-fz7re]

Great video, simple to follow. Only other bit would be dropping the sump and cleaning out the oil strainer( on my c3), which is a simple operation. Now feel more confident in doing this job. Many Thanks😊

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@KeithMoore-fz7re in most cases I would agree but the timing belt condition will determine whether to drop it or not. In my cause I felt the belt was in a good state of repair and hadn’t deteriorated hence I didn’t remove it 😉👍👍

[@mikeberry304]

Ive git one next week., 60k on the clock , oil light flashed on last nught on his way home , told him not to drive it , modern day shite Peter , well done on doing a video of the job 👏 👍

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Hey Mike, the belt itself is actually a really handy job. I didn’t feel the need to remove the oil pan/sump in my case so don’t know how awkward that is, but hopefully not too bad. The best of luck with it Mike 🤞🤞

[@mikeberry304]

​​@@kennedysgarage3281hi Peter., just ordered the locking kit for 20 quid off Flea Bay 👍

[@mikekinsella7575]

Good video Peter, didn't look too bad but then you are used to doing that stuff and probably harder stuff too! Thanks for the video though, a nice watch.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

They are actually handy enough Mike, definitely not one to be too worried about doing 👍👍🙏

[@m_lockwood-tj9kv]

Excellent video most people take off the cam pulleys but there’s no need.looks like you got a good parts supplier got you all this gaskets.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@m_lockwood-tj9kv I actually got the parts from our local Peugeot dealer. He gets all my Citroen bits 🙃

[@m_lockwood-tj9kv]

@@kennedysgarage3281 I worked for a Citroen/peugeot dealership ,to get warranty to pay for repairs we had to follow their procedure using their parts list ,if anything was missed they wouldn’t pay.

[@AlexM488]

Great video. All other videos and manuals say you have to take the phasers off. Seems there is enough room without having to. My 1.2 208 is due a change in 20K miles.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

There are actually relatively easy to do, good luck with your one when doing it 🤞🤞🤞🤞👍

[@msfilho]

Did you open the Oil Sump to clean the pump filter? With the belt on this state, certainly you have belt parts there.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

No, I did not remove the sump. I didn’t see too much deterioration on the timing. Maybe the camera was showing something that was there 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[@markflynn7900]

Fair play to ya man. You use every day tools to get the job done. Every other video I looked up on this lads were buying the timing tools. Sure it’s not feasible as I might never do another one. Great videos.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I’m in the exact same boat, I could spend endless amounts of money on specialist tools if I wanted to. A little bit of common sense and the job is a gooden 😊😊

[@markflynn7900]

@@kennedysgarage3281 well I just finished that 3008. Thanks for the help!

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@markflynn7900 well done Mark 💪💪

[@quidelicia1]

If the belt is like the one you removed - gear side face with small missing parts, I strongly recommend to take a look at the oil pump strainer, cause this small parts of the belt will be there reducing the oil flow.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

👍👍👍

[@rayjennings3637]

When my dealership took my car in for the warranty repair - Puretech 1.2 155 with 21,000 miles, they said they would also check the vacuum pump for contamination and there are many occasions when the internals of the vacuum pump actually begin to break up.

[@stuartletcher2442]

Great video, deffo happy to tackle one of these now after the informative video. E3 technical was saying to remove cam pulleys but I see no point to it after watching your vid.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I didn’t see any need to do that anyway. Quite a fast easy job, so good luck with the repair 🤞🤞

[@peterarries7879]

A tip for next time, we do these all the time at vauxhall (psa) pull the front engine mounting off the engine pulls forward

[@kennedysgarage3281]

To get in at the intake manifold bolts & additional room to remove it. Handy to know Peter thank you 🙏 🙏

[@janm3005]

Hey, quick question to your tip: which Engine mount do you mean? The one seen at 2:05 on the left? Or somewhere underneath? Thanks in advance!

[@peterarries7879]

@janm3005 it's the front engine mounting which is on the driver's side

[@sollykhan2385]

Thank you posting this AWESOME video, very helpful and you managed to get it done in 5 hours,which is amazing,,,i think it took me 6 hours to just get the Manifold off !! 🙂

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Hey Solly, the time doesn’t really matter. If you got the job done you done brilliantly 💪💪💪 Well done mate 👏👏

[@sollykhan2385]

@@kennedysgarage3281 Thank you for your encouraging words,i think you made it look far too easy, the serpentine belt had no adjuster,or the other water pump one either,the timing belt had lost about 12 teeth,by some miracle it didn't wreck the engine,managed to eventually get it all together,i think the same time as the elephants gestation period, was glad to see the back of it to be fair! these PSA engines are Horrible little contraptions,why people buy these monstrosities is beyond me. 🤔

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@sollykhan2385 I think most of the public don’t know how bad they can sometimes be until they go wrong 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[@sollykhan2385]

@@kennedysgarage3281 i think the general Public need to be made fully aware of the 'inner workings' of their 'NEW BRAINCHILD INVENTIONS' before these awful car's hit the showrooms, to see what's in store a few years down the road, that way, manufactures had better get their act together, were the 1's who pay the price for them getting it wrong in their crappy designs. What was wrong with simple Ford cross flow designs of the 60's (Cortina 1600E etc) 20 mins to drop gearbox out, 30 mins to do full service, less than 30 mins max to drop engine out etc! not that we needed to do that often. now we spend ages scratching our heads to source special tools,and know how, just plain Barmy money making racket!🤔

[@normanstephens5391]

Should a shove come to a push and my back was against the wall. After watching your work. I would give it a go on my Pug 2008. Thanks for sharing. See you in the next one. 👍👍

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Handy enough job Norman it would be no bother to you 💪💪💪🙏

[@halloweenjack3565]

I have the same car mine has done 60k bought it when it had done 50k no indication that belt has been changed , can see the belt through the oil fill area ,mine looks ok , will keep an eye on it though , really good replacement video !!

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you Jack hopefully it helps someday 🤞🙏🙏🙏

[@amac1657]

Would advise you get it done. Ours is only 3 years old with just over 50k and we broke down with oil pressure fault due to the belt

[@michaelcoughlan1123]

Brilliant stuff Peter. That worked out great.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

It’s a very workable design in this engine type Michael which is unusual nowadays, so fair play to the designers 👏👏

[@baylessnow]

Great job. Did you drop the sump and check the oil pick up pipe? I believe that they get clogged up with rubber particles from the degrading belt, resulting in low oil pressure and BOOM! one dead engine. I would not have bought mine if I knew about the wet belt beforehand.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I didn’t drop the sump on this vehicle as I didn’t feel the timing was after degrading enough to deem it necessary. But it does happen so it is something you need to watch out for 😉🙏🙏

[@JohnnyFallows]

I have a 2015 diesel cactus. What is the recommended times for the timing belt To be changed ? Thanks

[@georgeneacsu1]

My mecaniks did the belt change and now tha carr when it heets up si starts shake when its not in gear , and it has , camshaft eror an ritch mix eror , ... and they say its not the transmisio. ..., but i think it is since the problem started then ..., what do you rhink ? 😊😊

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@georgeneacsu1 if it has a camshaft / crankshaft error it is most likely caused but a timing related fault 🤔🤔🤔

[@Peter-sm8bj]

Nice job mate did you tighten crank bolt with locking pin in engine ir did u take pin out then tighten it thanks

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I cannot remember, but it would most likely tighten the crank bolt by hand tool with the pin in place. Generally the flywheel is a good strong point to hold crankshafts

[@Peter-sm8bj]

@@kennedysgarage3281 Well mate guess what the fault code relates to bad rail Pressure sensor i changed that car still Thr same starts idles and dies then i charged battery overnight it was dead same result then i decided last go at the car 🤣 i unplugged the front o2 sensor on the cat the car euns drives like a dream my question is can a bad 02 cause car to run rough and die Cause it drives great with that unolugged fron the electrical plug thanks

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@Peter-sm8bj yes Peter, if the 02 sensor fail rich or lean it would run like a pig. Do you have a scantool ?? You should be able to look at what it is doing on live data 🤔🤔

[@Peter-sm8bj]

@@kennedysgarage3281 I ordered a sensor mate as soon as i plug the catalytic converter 02 sensor back in can starts and hunts then dies I unplug it car drives perfect I have a autel scantool with live data but i have no clue what all the readings mean mate 👍

[@Peter-sm8bj]

@@kennedysgarage3281 Long fuel trim with it plugged in gives me a reading of 0.0 And map is 29.5 And spark adv is -14

[@samuelmcleod3492]

G'day mate, nice work ! I have to do my C4 Cactus soon, do you think it's necessary to replace the crank bolt? And what torque setting did you use ? I've seen someone used 20nm to set it and then 180degrees... They stopped at 150..scared of snapping the bolt 🔩 cheers

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@samuelmcleod3492 the torque setting is actually 50Nm & then 180 degrees. You will need to use a new bolt 😉

[@Purple_Lace]

Loving the new intro!

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you Lacey 🙏🙏👍

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Hopefully you liked the video too 🤞🙂

[@evlo8059]

That is surprisingly serviceable, thank you for informative video.

[@hertelden0666]

Thank this video. Has the timing belt been changed for this vehicle before? How many times has it changed? Or is it the first change?

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Unfortunately the owner didn’t know the service history, but the timing belt was in quite good condition for the mileage. So I would assume it had been replaced around 100,000kms 🤔🤔

[@johnlockey2297]

Did you check the oil strainer for debris ,then change oil and filter for belly and braces job?

[@kevinw3800]

What is the cost in Ireland to change the wet belt in the garage ?

[@ahmedhossam6125]

dear. great review sure i had an opel crossland x 2020 1.2 turbo .i had same problems at first top up oil level message then engine fault then stop the car message until 77000km .psa engine in egypt decided to replace the engine in warranty by new engine they get it and now they replace it.does psa changed the old belt with new one differ in its mateial to prevent all that law pressure problem? i want to know .i read that they made a new version v3 . is that true thanks

[@kennedysgarage3281]

They did upgrade the belt design but I believe that a timing belt & engine oil just shouldn’t be mixed. People might say different but the evidence is that it just doesn’t work. But with a new belt fitted it will last for years, also buy the OE oil from the dealership and keep the receipts for warranty if ever needed. The very best of luck with the new engine & happy new year 🙏🙏🙏

[@markandrewberry]

Sorry to ask a stupid question: is the crank locking pin actually holding the crank in place when you undo the crank bolt, and is it intended to be able to do that? (Or does it just provide a reference point?) Thanks.

[@andywalwyn]

Unless you leave it in gear and chock the brake pedal it's the only thing holding the crank in place, it's a 16mm steel pin so I guess it was designed to cope with the force needed to get the crank bolt out

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Yes Mark, the flywheel locking pin is as Andy says for locking the crankshaft in place. It is actually a easy enough timing belt to do. Very straight forward 😉👍👍👍

[@philphil3707]

I think it's fair to say your not a good mechanic, your a great mechanic. You made that look easy mate, not sure I like the idea of having wet belt though 😮 I've wedged a piece of wood between cam shaft pullies before 😅, can't get it wrong if you mark it all up first

[@philphil3707]

Also, no better feeling after you turn the key fir the first time and it fires straight up

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I’m not too fond of the wet belt design either, but I must say that I was impressed with this design. It is a great time saver compared to the Ford wet belts. And thank you very much for the compliment Phil, I’m smiling away here 😊😊😊👍

[@philphil3707]

I must admit, it did look quite easy, not having to remove the engine mount, and no water pump to replace either, keep the video coming, there's a few good mechanics I watch on here, it's great seeing the different ways people adapt and overcome situations, helps us all learn new techniques 👍 I encourage you to watch : Chris Allan - "Professional struggler" : Salvage Rebuilds UK : O'Rileys Autos - Mobile Mechanic & DPF Cleaning All 3 channels put out great honest content like yourself, give them a watch if you get chance 👍

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@philphil3707 Chris Allen ‘ professional struggler’ is the only one I’m not subscribed to but some great content on O Reilly’s & Salvage builders. I must check him out & thanks for that 🙏🙏🙏

[@philphil3707]

Please check him out, he's a fantastic much like yourself, but works on HGVS, he shows us all the real world struggles of being a mechanic, and the genuine errors which we all make, and thibgs we overlook, but also, is a good problem solver

[@halftimealready5694]

Sorry wasn't meant as a criticism, just my me - bit of a worryer😂, keep the vids coming, very good. Have a good 2025.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@halftimealready5694 many happy returns mate & hopefully I can keep you entertained with some good content in 2025 🤞🤞

[@Gearhead90]

Good job buddy not done one of these in a while used to do quite a few of them the turbo and non turbo versions only because the belt had broke up and blocked the strainer causing oil pressure issues i actually purchased the timing tool after the 5th one and never used it for another year bloody typical😅😅

[@kennedysgarage3281]

It is typical David 🙂 I’m the same I’d be struggling with a job only to realise after I’m finished that I had a special tool for it 😂😂😂

[@Gearhead90]

I recently fitted a sump on a vw up and had an utter nightmare getting at the bolts at the gearbox end struggled off and on with it then was clearing out my garage at home that night ready for moving house and Jesus what should I find but the exact sockets I needed which was infuriating lolll

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@Gearhead90 Sod’s Law 😂😂😂😂

[@ferenczsinko6770]

maybe i have missed the comment but when the belt is changed, should the sump not also be removed to check oil strainer for particles from the previous belt and not just change out the belt ?

[@kennedysgarage3281]

For me direction on every job is dictated by the evidence throughout the repair process & in this cause I feel that the belt hadn’t deteriorated enough to deem sump removal necessary. But each and every job can be different, so do what you feel is best 😉👍👍

[@Nycorexti]

you can loosen the engine mount for better access to the intake

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Another commenter also said that & I does make sense, I’ll be doing it next time 😉🙏🙏🙏

[@TheSyedabdrahman]

Do u need to do oil change plus filter replaxement when doing the belt replacement?

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I would recommend changing the oil and filter too. Also look at the belt condition as the break up and block the oil strainer 😉👍👍

[@КостяЩербаков-ч3с]

Please give me some advice, the service center told me that I need to replace the belt, since 6 years have already passed, but I doubt whether this should be done now? I bought a car in 2018, in 6 years I drove 30,000 km (Citroen c4 Cactus Puretech 82)

[@smarttask1]

You deserve more than than a thumbs up, that was the best talk through I’ve seen on KZbin. Well done. I’ve just brought the new Jeep Avenger 1.2 100hp turbo which I believe use’s the same engine. Question 1 when the new Jeep arrives I was thinking of installing a RaceChip increasing the hp 128, in your opinion is the little engine and gearbox strong enough to take the extra hp? Thank you.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you so much & I delighted you enjoyed my video 🙏🙏🙏 Yes, absolutely. They are quite a good little engine & by all means chip it. A bit more power never does any harm 💪💪

[@smarttask1]

Thanks once again. Best regards. Roger

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@smarttask1 🙏🙏

[@thomascatford2627]

Good job , good vid, proper mechanic not a main dealer tech, im an old timer worked on every type of engine you could think of,, bit strange that crank gear.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Hi Thomas, it is a strange crank pulley design but a great time saver, thanks mate 🙏

[@octymocty132]

Hi I've just done a full rebuild as it also blew a piston 😢 and now I have a fule pressure sensor issue Did you suffer the same ( but you didn't do a ful engine rebuild )

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I did not. If you didn’t have a fuel pressure issues beforehand could it be a pipe fitted the wrong way round?? Fuel feed & return 🤔

[@glodanmircea1886]

180.000 km is the first time it has the belt changed? From which year is the car? I keep finding information that the new C3 models have a better quality material in the belt and it is recommended to change it at 100k and not 60k like before. Thank you

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@glodanmircea1886 the owner didn’t know if it was done before but wanted it done to be safe. I’d probably do them around 60k just for peace of mind 🤔🤔

[@scotspie501douglas7]

have you seen the service bulletin on this issue

[@kennedysgarage3281]

No, what does it say ?? Is it similar to the Ford eco boost one about the oil needing to be correct & the oil strainer getting blocked 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@hajosteffen1793]

Great methodic explaination. Congrats!

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you sir, I’m glad you enjoyed it 🙏🙏🙏

[@dandan3646]

Have you ever come across a belt slipping a tooth on these engines, Citroen mechanic said this could be the fault on my c3 1.0. Still runs but slow acceleration until 2200 revs then picks up okay. No fault codes and have changed the cat

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Hi Dan, I haven’t ever come across this but if your mechanic could look at Cam & Crank synchronisation PID on his scantool he should know pretty fast 🤞🤞

[@dandan3646]

@@kennedysgarage3281 Thanks for the reply, will ask my mechanic to ask the Citroen mechanic(a mate of his) if he can look at it

[@zukhrufhussain2271]

Hi I have the same car throwing a code P000A Camshaft slow response bank 1 I’m gonna change the cam and VVT solenoid the timing is bang on belt is new double checked the timing with locking tools soo? What do you reckon thanks

[@zukhrufhussain2271]

Sorry ‘cam sensor gonna change that

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I’m haven’t encountered it on this model but the strainers on the VVT solenoids can block quite often, well worth a look 👀👀

[@jameshird2428]

What's the going garage rate for this on a Peugeot 208

[@bastogne315]

Wet things happen...intro is outstanding!!

[@bastogne315]

That's what I thought it said in the thumbnail...

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Well I suppose if you were a Wet timing belt and someone put in the wrong oil which made you break prematurely 😬😬 That is how you’d feel 😂😂😂 Maybe in the next life🙂 Thanks Bastogne 🙏🙏

[@rexpontiusful]

Great video, did one myself last week. Terrible engine design. Lot of work for simple belt change. Why did you cut the exhaust? In took it off from the turbo, just four bolts and a heatshield (and lambda out)

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I didn’t cut the exhaust on this Citroen but I’m assuming you might be talking about the Focus Ecoboost timing belt I had cut 🤔🤔 Where the exhaust joins around the steering rack area was welded prior and I didn’t want the challenge of that, so just made my life easier and cut then re-welded it nice and neatly. This business is a moving beast. The Citroen is a far easier job, so well done on your one 💪💪💪

[@rexpontiusful]

@@kennedysgarage3281 ah yeah correct I was watching your ecoboost video and somehow my comment ended up under this video 🙈. Thanks mate

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@rexpontiusful it a bit like car repair nowadays, things just don’t do what we expect 😬😬😬

[@colmmccabe2998]

Hi peter. Have a couple of Customers with 208 3cylinder engines in them can you tell me please what's the actual service interval on those belts as I've yet touch one

[@wackey3455]

every 50 km says in my hand book

[@nickpardon8620]

Hey Colm! Stellantis indicates that you should replace the belt every 6 years or every 100,000 km / 62137 miles. Usually this has to be done earlier, because the belt is too weak for that. First it was 10 years or 175,000 km / 108739 miles .

[@jamiehewitt5841]

Alright just wanted to know Do you know where camshaft sensor location is 😂😂😂 struggling to find it

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I actually don’t know but will check 😉

[@liphter4352]

Hi my friend. Which period apply Replament Timing belt And V belt? For 1.2 puretech engine.

[@ahmedhossam6125]

please i want to know . psa recommended mobil psa 5w-30 oil is it the right one for my country egypt with its high tempreture summer

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Off hand I don’t know the exact specifications of the oil in your model car but as mentioned I would buy it from the dealer to validate warranty 😉

[@richardglover1200]

Did u change? The oil.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

It was changed 5 days earlier on a service when we told him to do the timing belt. No oil related issues & I believe the belt hadn’t deteriorated enough to cause any further problems 😉👍👍👍

[@louismallet3863]

Very good video. Unfortunately the PureTech engine has too many design flaws. Mine gave up via the belt and oil leaks at 105,000 km. Sad to see that customer services (Peugeot for me) are not at all up to scratch and find every excuse not to participate in the cost of repairs.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

It is a mine field out there, avoid warranty at all costs 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️ Expensive keeping them going nowadays 😬😬👍

[@johndutton2895]

Jobs a goodun 👍 the original belt looked in good shape for the mileage but better to be safe than sorry. Have you ever done a timing belt on a vag cjzc engine? I’m on the fence about replacing it as the procedure says the camshaft timing angle has to be checked and adjusted if not in the tolerance which involves an expensive supa dupa kit and software but have seen people do them without?

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I haven’t had the pleasure of doing one of those yet. But I suppose it is going to happen soon enough. Isn’t it awful the way the over complicate it and make experienced technicians be slightly scared of the job incase something goes wrong 😤😤

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Do any of ye know how much it costs in the dealerships??

[@johndutton2895]

@@kennedysgarage3281 my biggest concerns would be lumpy idle worse case or poorer fuel economy/increased emissions. Seen videos of them done without it and also seen videos of them done without it and in a dealership having to be adjusted because there running rough. The owner is phoning the dealers tomorrow to get a price so I will report back 👍 I’ve advised her to get the water pump/housing and toothed belt replaced also it’s quite a weird engine with it being gearbox end. The procedure is fascinating to watch but I always thought it was Renaults job to re-invent the wheel 🤔😂

[@johndutton2895]

@THEGREENBEAR1723 do you also recommend replacing the water pump/housing and belt at the same time? Although it’s on the other end

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@THEGREENBEAR1723 I have replaced the water pump & belt up over the gearbox, due to them leaking. I have also also had to re-time a 2016 Seat Leon with a standard locking kit due to a small misfire at around 2500 rpm but I cannot remember the engine code or if it is the same engine type 🤔🤔

[@timbo19751975]

judging by the top end of that engine, it's had many many frequent oil changes :)

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Yes, it has quite a good service history & nothing is left on the long finger. I done this job around 4 weeks ago and the clutch failed only 2 weeks after ( release bearing went through the pressure plate 😬😬 ) Still you’d panic when that break down call comes 😂😂

[@emmanuila7747]

How much oil does it burn?

[@zaneclone]

Miss the 1.1/1/4 KFV/KFZ days lol...

[@kennedysgarage3281]

The good old days 😂😂😂

[@Erkanalpalp]

Hello, is 1.6 puretech has wet belt or chain?

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I’m not sure but if you remove the oil filler cap and look in you should be able to see a belt or chain 🤞🤞

[@TrailVapor]

Can you please tell us at what mileage these faults occur? Turd time of t'asking

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I show the mileage in the video 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️ This vehicle has 182,000 kms, I recommend watching the whole of my videos to see the mileage’s. Hopefully this helps you 👍👍

[@maximg9965]

Насколько надежен этот двигатель при хорошем обслуживании? Какой у него ресурс в милях или километрах?

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Not too many people like any wet belt engines. But the belt is really easy to replace compared to others. So replace the belt relatively regularly and it should be a great little engine 😉👍👍

[@maximg9965]

​@@kennedysgarage3281 спасибо за ответ. Очень нравятся автомобили Пежо, Ситроен.

[@busatrx850]

We need a cam chain conversion kit for these

[@justinsteel6360]

Shouldve taken sump off afterwards. These suffer from strainer restrictions from debris from old belt great to see the job done with relative ease

[@kennedysgarage3281]

The timing belt in this case hadn’t deteriorated which was evidence enough for me to not feel I needed to remove the sump. But you are right it does quite often need to be done 👍 👍👍

[@justinsteel6360]

@@kennedysgarage3281 wasnt meant as a criticism. Great job you did there.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@justinsteel6360 it wasn’t taken as one, thank you for watching. Have a lovely Christmas & we will talk soon 🙏🙏

[@Whoknowsthefuture.]

What is a cost of such operation. Thank you

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@Whoknowsthefuture. it isn’t too big of a job so it should be around 5 or 6 hundred

[@georgigeorgiev1300]

Ohhh man you're lucky that you didn't have to do the direct injection and turbo version off the 1.2 puretech, that is a nightmare without timing tools

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Nice to know that Georgi, I’ll be weary of those 😉👍👍👍

[@liamfletcher6891]

The one you cannot see the both camshafts with the rocker cover off. The tool is cheap from laser amazon couldn’t imagine trying without them there’s no point they clip in on end of cams pin in crank and rip it apart chuck it together no messing about trying to mark it up🤙

[@captainchaos3053]

The turbo engine is horrible. And not much power either.

[@filipkrstevski5449]

wow great job and is this the genuine first belt? Because if I heard correctly it has 180000km which is too much for this belt thanks in advance cheers

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I actually don’t know the history of this vehicle, but one of my colleagues serviced it and advised the owner that it needed a timing belt replacement. I was just the unlucky one to get the job. But you are correct it was in a good state of repair if it was the original, but possibly not 🤔🤔

[@filipkrstevski5449]

@@kennedysgarage3281 thanks for you answer keep it up with the cgannel verry informative

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@filipkrstevski5449 thanks mate, I appreciate that 😉🙏🙏🙏

[@QAZ2453]

There's no need to take the take the coolant lines and battery out, when's ive done a wet belt, i drop the engine mount and the inlet manifold will slide out no problem

[@kennedysgarage3281]

So other commenters have mentioned, but this was my first just the approach that I took 😉🙏🙏🙏

[@chrism5433]

Good one pete. Much better than ford lol. I remember the the pugeot 106 and others with the same style flywheel tdc, locking pin . Pugeot really do like there there floating crank gear lol chers 🍺

[@kennedysgarage3281]

A really good & easy to work with design, nice to see it being done before you have to tackle one 🤞👍👍

[@chrism5433]

@@kennedysgarage3281 Pete the only issue is I'm in Canada now and we don't have pugeot or citron lol, 🍺 🍺🍺

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@chrism5433 only Ford for you so 😬😬 Great to have someone from Canada tuning in 😉🙏🙏🙏

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@chrism5433 only Ford for you so 😬😬 Great to have someone from Canada tuning in 😉🙏🙏🙏

[@luich1288]

How many Miles/km?

[@kennedysgarage3281]

It has 181,000kms I show it in the video 👍👍

[@kawasakiman8965]

Sump should have been removed to check oil strainer for restriction not sure I would do it this way

[@pedrob2817]

Cuantos km tiene ese motor y cuántos años.gracias

[@kennedysgarage3281]

2015 & 180,000 kms. This belt was actually in quite a good state

[@lukaszteplik1922]

Good job mate :)

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you so much Lukasz 🙏🙏🙏

[@beany1987]

How is that down as a 8 hour job 😂 your filming and explaing and still got it done it half that time.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

🤷🏼‍♂️ I don’t do too much setting up, so filming doesn’t add too much time. 8 hours was just a guide time that the dealer said. The time may be smaller on Autodata or Alldata 🤔🤔🤔👍

[@florisnr11]

I missed one thing. I didnt see a oil change. And kleening the filter . Maybe i missed it .

[@kennedysgarage3281]

This vehicle was serviced only 1 week earlier, when I recommended it got a timing belt. As for the oil strainer, I felt that the belt hadn’t degraded enough to deem it necessary to be cleaned. I might get to show it on the next one 🤞🤞 I’m at a Ford eco boost belt just today 😂😂

[@ianaristotlethompson4186]

Very well done. Thanks.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

It is a relatively easy job & doesn’t take too long , especially compared to the dreaded Ford eco boost wet belt. Thank you 🙏🙏

[@scotspie501douglas7]

wow that belt is breaking up you will need to drop the sump and clean the strainer

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Someone else mentioned that, I must look at the video again because from memory I thought the belt was in very good condition 🤔🤔 I normally would if I thought it was needed but I didn’t in this case, with no oil related issues 🤞🤞

[@scotspie501douglas7]

if you need the service bulletin let me know and i,ll send the photos from my 1.2 wet belt scary reading as a mechanic

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@scotspie501douglas7 please, contact me on Kennedys garage.ie 🙏🙏

[@scotspie501douglas7]

@@kennedysgarage3281 I,ll send you all the info it is shocking scary stuff where are you based

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@scotspie501douglas7 Southern Ireland & you ??

[@DzasterNL]

Good luck with the belt, it's rolling into hot oil. We had a warranty but Stelantis doesn't give the warranty to it. Its unreliable.. Some have problems at 40k km's. Some at 80 and some at 120. Due to the books it says around 160k km's or so it needs to be replaced. All been done by the dealer.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Oil and rubber just don’t like each other 😂😂😂

[@eliasd.6826]

Very helpful thanks a lot 😊

[@kennedysgarage3281]

They are quite a nice job to do 😉👍👍

[@itsagoal182]

I’m ashamed to call myself an Engineer after seeing this wet belt design. The belt material (hydrogenated nitrile for chemical resistance, and glass filled nylon for added strength) is typically great in all oils, chemically very good! Temps good for 150c The problem is the surface finish, the rubber likes smooth surface finishes to be run on, and it doesn’t like metal shards being compressed into it!! I work in the oil and gas sector, and we have seen this occur in our own tools. Silly design.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I guess these things have to be tested on normal everyday items to prove the test over time. I’m doing a wet belt on a 2021 Mondeo next week, the Eco blue engine and Ford seem to have made it a lot easier to renew. Thank goodness 🙏🙏

[@m_lockwood-tj9kv]

I forgot to add I would have checked the oil pick strainer in the sump for blockages.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@m_lockwood-tj9kv I find that I generally would too but the timing belt being in such good condition lead me to choose not too as it is bits of belt that block the strainer 😉

[@kees1]

Most important clean olie filter in site

[@wackey3455]

nice watch peter

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank Paddy a little weekend entertainment & education all in one ☝️ 👍👍

[@vodonnell1]

Great job.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

A handy little show & tell Vincent 🙏🙏

[@seemanmanavan]

👌👌👌👌❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍

[@kennedysgarage3281]

🙏🙏🙏

[@crazydad981]

you forgot the check the oil pump mate ;)

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Nope, every move I carry out is derived from evidence & i choose not to remove the sump due to the good condition of the belt 😉👍👍👍

[@MartinJones-tl9kt]

Excellent all round

[@kennedysgarage3281]

Thank you Martin, greatly appreciated 🙏🙏

[@the_retired_mechanic]

Yep looks straight forward enough. Certainly better than ford. Who have gone back to a chain anyway on later version

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I did hear that Chris, it’s crazy make decisions & then having to change it because of it being such a bad design 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️ Thanks mate 🙏

[@the_retired_mechanic]

@Kennedy’s garage i watched a KZbin video made by the company that were commissioned to design and make the wet belt for ford. They show in the video how they swell with age and the cause of the failure.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@the_retired_mechanic hmmm, that sounds like an interesting watch. I must do some searching 👍👍

[@davidmcateer5483]

Good man 👍

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@davidmcateer5483 hopefully it helps you out mate 🤞🤞

[@AnOn-hh8tu]

Tell me, please, could the timing belt or other belts (or maybe rolls) be causing the vibration in the cabin shown in the video? kzbin.infoXROtr_3lFKM, this is 1.2 PureTech 100 with 10k km and 3 years old (Opel Mokka 2021), this vibration i feel every time when turn off the climat control or stopping the engine. One of the 1.2 PureTech 100 owner's had a similar problem on a similar car (similar engine) and after replacing the belt all the sounds disappeared.

[@kaisersadik3594]

smart job

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@kaisersadik3594 thank you sir 🙏🙏

[@bEEBO178]

Just put the whole car in the bin

[@kennedysgarage3281]

😂😂😂😂

[@thomascatford2627]

Yes thats the answer from " master techs " 😂 😂 most of them can use a laptop, but have never seen inside an engine , gearbox or diff 😂

[@Danny_EastMids]

Engine designer logic: "This part will need to be replaced regularly during the life of the vehicle - let's make it an 8hr job"

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@Danny_EastMids 😂😂😂 No sense or meaning to it 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Danny_EastMids]

Car manufacturers could design a car that would last for 40+ years (by making changing out components and other servicing easier). They won't do that as they'd lose money.

[@ToyotatechDK]

What I dumb design for that belt to be removed

[@kennedysgarage3281]

I actually thought it brilliant, it is some time saver for anyone doing it 🤷🏼‍♂️👍👍

[@mauriziogiasan4411]

❤tanks

[@kennedysgarage3281]

This was my first wet belt on a Peugeot but it is a whole lot easier than a Ford Eco boost 🙂 Thanks Maurizio 🙏🙏

[@tinko975]

Change oil when changing belt

[@kennedysgarage3281]

It was done 3 days beforehand on a service when we recommended to replace the belt 😉👍👍👍

[@grapsorz]

looking at the state of that belt you forgot a RELY important job. clean up the oil pickup in the oil sump. that is guarantied to be clogged.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

The belt on this was unusually good, with not deterioration. What did you see that I didn’t ??

[@grapsorz]

@@kennedysgarage3281 the surface on the top. it look's just as it do when it shed the first layer. not the tooth side. the top side.

[@grapsorz]

@@kennedysgarage3281 this one is "worse" as this thing is to the point that the oil lamp is on. pmmonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/OESAA-Hub-Fig-3-21.jpg

[@grapsorz]

@Lewdar_ the problem is that you will be running with low oil pressure for a logn time before the light blinks/come on. this also damage the oil pump and can damage the vacuum pump if your car have one. and the low oil pressere will damage the bearings, pistons etc. this will up the oil consumption as things start to were down.

[@kennedysgarage3281]

@@grapsorz the belt was in very good condition which is unusual to see, maybe the camera showed up something that wasn’t actually there 🤷🏼‍♂️ I do have a video on a Ford wet belt that deteriorated quite badly & in that video I removed the sump and cleaned the strainer. But in this case it wasn’t actually needed. Is there much work involved in removing the sump on these ??