IN DEFENSE OF NETFLIX’S “ I CARE A LOT"| BAD? MOVIES & A BEAT| KennieJD

[@ryngarnett2085]

Part of me knew Marla’s fate based off the crispness of her bob.

[@YurrahAlHadi]

Loool right!

[@sbaxter3252]

Right? Her hair was clearly a part of her character

[@pierceblazer]

Yoooo!!! 😂😂😂

[@felixn.burgos2340]

LMASGJAGSUS

[@FreedomUninterrupted]

This comment was gold! 🤣🤣🤣 The hair stylist in me cannot help but appreciate this!

[@hannhan2409]

I see that sexual assault/violence warning entirely too often. I feel like it pops up every week.

[@littlerelief]

".... and then she gets sexually assaulted" are not words Kennie should have to say as often as these movies make her.

[@chisaime]

@@fruitygarlic3601 Right. I feel like Netflix originals tend to always have something of this nature, and I hate it. I know it tends to be in a lot of movies/shows, but with Netflix there has to be something sexual (consensual or not), and it really ruins it sometimes. Their originals.. a lot of them are bad these days, and they’re just like “oh, let’s slap some sex/assault in here”

[@kelleyreeves965]

I agree with Kennie that it's so annoying when used as a plot device. It seems many writers don't understand how traumatizing it can really be and often treat it like an inconvenience that the characters easily bounce back from

[@ButterflyScarlet]

@@kelleyreeves965 This exactly! They treat it like it's a mild inconvenience but that shit is scary as hell and it sticks with you.

[@camdenhunt7565]

@@kelleyreeves965 It's so lazy and it's mostly done by male writers.

[@debo9824]

I'm a lesbian and I personally loved that she was a lesbian. I like movies with gay characters that don't revolve around them being gay, besides we can be awful people too.

[@humbletea_beauty9094]

I would definitely like this post but you’re exactly at 69 and I’m not messing that up. But yes!

[@ovenknees4410]

Same, fellow lesbian. I like how it kinda showed that even if someone doesn't check off all the boxes in white-cis-het they can still be privileged and have power over others

[@lordofanime7540]

Y’all actually like this terrible ass unrealistic movie. It scream Girl power and how Karen’s rule the world

[@debo9824]

@@lordofanime7540 and in a positive light? Chill

[@felixn.burgos2340]

@@lordofanime7540 did ya watch the video 🧍‍♂️

[@emkay888]

The scariest part of this movie is this shit actually happens in real life. Elderly people are basically abducted against their will and have everything they own taken from them. Don't let this happen to our grandparents!

[@parisaseslmusicbox8477]

Yeah I feel like she missed the big underlying thing as Marla embodying Big Pharma!

[@rustyk4645]

Quite. I think anyone hating the movie because they think some other people might like Marla are REALLY Missing the Point ☝️

[@janellerouxx]

See I agree with everything said, but I've also been recommended this film by white women who sympathize and defend Marla's actions/occupation, because they themselves don't see it as white feminism, and thus perpetuate it through positive reviews and the blatant misinterpretation of the satire. It was all fun and games until then 😬

[@yamaguccitears1427]

BIG YIKES

[@tylersakil3610]

The ironic thing is I compared this movie to Wolf of Wall Street but until I saw this review I didn't really see the satire either. But that's probably because the movie didn't really make me laugh lol🤷🏽‍♂️. However once I look back on it and think deeper on the parallels between this movie and The Wolf of Wall Street I can completely understand why someone could take this movie better if it was considered a satire.

[@please_im_a_staaar]

I mean... What else can you be under capitalism if not a jackass? If you are successful (rich) under capitalism, your actions are unethical. No matter if you think so or not. Cause where the hell all your shit ton of money comes from? From underpaid exploited workers who could be earning more if not for you. So it's not surprising that capitalism's angle on feminism is all about becoming as much of an asshole to continue perpetuate the system. Same goes for capitalism's idea of anti-racism: buy from black-owned brands to stop racism. As if it helps the vast majority of non-CEO black people...

[@elleofhearts8471]

Im going to assume defenses come from white women who either can see themselves making the same decisions marla made, if they haven't already in one form or another or people who know white women who HAVE made similar decisions from which they may or may have also benefitted from personally.

[@ziyanda_theartist]

Watching this video, I was literally imagining the slew of women like this who might exist

[@idkrt452]

I died when I saw “White womaning” as a disclaimer LMAO

[@halima615]

literally spit out my water 😂😂 lmao

[@badumtiss5288]

I Read Too Fast And Saw "White Moaning" 😂 And I Never Went Back To See If I Had Been Correct

[@alyngoun6604]

lol same!!!

[@nix_]

I caught that just as it disappeared and thought I'd imagined those words😂

[@Diva380]

I mean, it IS still Black History Month for 2 more days, so people might want to time their watching of this review based on that, LOL...

[@LilacConstalation]

You could call these type of movies 'meh movies and a makeover'.

[@jjescorpiso21]

witty

[@kcorphan308]

Oops, guess you beat me to that one. I didn't notice your comment before I posted.

[@LilacConstalation]

@@kcorphan308 it's all good 😂

[@hailee4261]

or similarly ‘mediocre movies and a makeover’ 🤔

[@belladonna869]

@@hailee4261 kind of a mouthful, even though mediocre is a fabulous word

[@marquisehebbler9471]

I like serious talking Kennie, she can really talk shit

[@LeilaleilaZ]

She's so articulate is almost hypnotizing 😻 She'd be a great college professor

[@breonnasmith3015]

@@LeilaleilaZ I remember her saying one time she was going to school to be a professor 😊

[@ohmygodbecky6829]

Some people are best being spontaneous and nonsensical, but by nature kennie is a thoughtful witty cookie. So she’s fun to just listen to analyzing stuff

[@mixusup]

same! i was like: damn check out this smart lady! edit- i just remembered the conversation on hight she had. the pay gap between short and tall people is similar to that between a man and a woman. in fact in the nave as recent as my grandfather lifetime you werent elegible for certain promotions if you were bellow... 5'5" i think? i've not seen it so i can't say, but maybe making both bad guys marginalized was a way to point out that anyone who adopts capitalism and greed is bad regardless of who they are? though that does sound a bit like a cop out.

[@kianaw.8096]

@@LeilaleilaZ right i was just thinking this. she’s so good at speaking

[@singulariteas]

when you mentioned the way people perceive the main character of wolf of wall street it just reminded me of how so many people (mostly white men because obviously) think he's an inspirational character because he's rich and "started from nothing", as if the guy didn't make his career taking money from vulnerable poor people like you said, and as if he didn't turn into a criminal, abusive, wife-beating cocaine addict who tries to kidnap one of his children and drive with them while high. the second i see someone who thinks leo's character in this movie is anyone they should root for it's an IMMEDIATE red flag. "wolf of wall street is inspirational" yeah if your aspiration is going to jail

[@kissthesky951]

The fact the real man that the movie was based off of is a motivational speaker gets me. I would never want someone like that giving me any sort of advice.

[@broomhilder]

@@kissthesky951 motivating others to also be criminals 😂

[@xenony7087]

And you know what mostly the movies black men like? Movies in which black people shoot and loot everything and everyone(like obviously)

[@rustyk4645]

It's like Frank Abnagale. He never did a real day's work in his life and trades off of his Fake reputation.

[@bituinl]

Y white men obviously?

[@qazielynn2580]

Kennie, in all her videos, serious or not, makes me feel smarter. Her way of saying things, her articulation, her vocab, and how deeply she tries to see and point out to faults of society are really great. I hope to be this eloquent someday. haahhaha

[@sleepysmartboy6287]

She makes me feel like I'm having an eloquent conversation with an eloquent friend and it just makes me feel like I'm smart with her

[@nazarisreyes6037]

A lot of people didn't liked it because they hated she was unlikable but for me that was the point. It was a bad person against other bad people, her success made sense in a capitalist society while still giving us a satisfying ending

[@helenxar9405]

i feel like ppl also expected to see something kind of gone girl esque but amy is only likeable when compared to nick. marla isn't fucking over her cheating husband, she's harming innocent old people

[@nazarisreyes6037]

@@helenxar9405 I think that because we live under capitalism people don't want to question what bad actions they make to succeed

[@MissBrittneyofCourse]

Was the ending satisfying tho?? Because the damage was done, and there was no real victory for the good guys (i.e. all them old people)

[@SammyP038]

I didn’t like the movie not because she was unlikable , but because let’s be honest the amount of plot holes and non-realism made it objectively bad for critiques. I mean this human women was able to survive being underwater for a good 10 mins+, a gas leak happened in a house that went from day to night and the girl in the house was fine, they were so focused on making the main character so OP that they made the Russian mafia come off like some petty criminals who had no idea what they were doing. The director was too focused on making this woman seem like some indestructible super villain and that just made it come across as corny.

[@thetalker221]

It is a good movie it just pissed me off

[@Allonsy305]

Am I the only one who enjoys films with unlikable characters? It just feels more realistic by not making all the characters flawless and makes me more engaged in the movie to see how they'll get their comeuppance (the movie, Election comes to mind). Sometimes with characters that are written for us to root for, they're still a horrible person and we're made to at least like them in the end, but we of course don't. LOVED Rosamund Pike in Gone Girl. Still say she should've won the Oscar.

[@uaenaonce8231]

I enjoy movies with unlikeable characters when there's at least some "good" or humane side to them. Not hen it's all black and white and the main character doesn't have an inch of humanity inside her. it makes me not want to watch the movie unless it's horror.

[@kelseyissastar]

I love flawe characters. Its way more enjoyable and interesting to watch. IN movies and tv shows. It seems more real.

[@dramamole]

You can have a flawed character and still make them likable.

[@CaffeMochaAngel]

I enjoy stories with unlikable characters as long as their development journey feels well executed. I feel like some movies are filmed in a way that seems to romanticize or condone the unlikable qualities of the characters. Like, with 365 Days for example. That movie could have easily been a thriller with the love interests constant disregards for consent and boundaries. It's romanticized in a way where some people might be lead to believe that that's actually an ok thing for Doms to do. But it's not ok for anyone to do and we don't see the characters or the writers acknowledging that it's not ok.

[@elliot__agares]

Same, it's boring when the characters are super flawless and "relatable" and "perfect", like, she was made to be unlikable, she was made to have flaws, and be like that

[@taliaanyabuike4460]

I've concluded that people actually don't like morally ambiguous characters, it's the same vain of people making liking villains their entire personality cause they're more "interesting" than the hero/good guy but then go on to try and justify every action the villain does. People always want to be morally correct it's weird.

[@abnormpsych17]

I love this take 💗

[@abbywolffe4114]

It's "boring" to like the hero but "interesting" to like the villain, despite the fact that by liking the villain they're turning the villain into their hero regardless of what they've done

[@taliaanyabuike4460]

@@abbywolffe4114 exactly like that's what I've never understood but what can you do 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@mynameisuju]

Exactly!!! Like they are so disappointed they dont get to root for the someone doing objectively evil things. Like I like a villain as much as the next person, Disney villains are better than main characters and I stand by that. But it's very disturbing that people are seeking likeability in a murderous character. Like why?? Kind like people who obsess over school shooters because they had tumblr pages. Why are you seeking to morally justify someone who does bad things by saying "well at least they're likeable"?

[@blacgyp7538]

“People always want to be morally correct”. Right ? I’ve watched multiple interviews of some heinous killers/pedos/traffickers and they stand in the fact they’re still good ppl 😂. The devil made them do it . When really uchose to do that , you are a menace to society and no you’re not a good person . It seems many ppl either just don’t or don’t know how to have self reflection or accountability.

[@nayerie24]

mediocre movies and makeup? b-tier movies and a beat? lackluster movies and a look? i don’t know, nothing has a good enough ring to it 😭

[@formlessdivinity]

lackluster movies and a look was a serve

[@xrrgr]

@@formlessdivinity right!

[@illinoisgirldreaming9085]

Meh movies and a makeover?

[@nosiphondlovu5850]

it's interesting how Roman, the white man, is still protected from his consequences at the end of the movie. She got her deserved end but he is probably safe in the background, free to put another "face" in her place.

[@whatreallymatters571]

Loved that you pointed out they didn't give her any excuses or backstory about her actions. She is just unlikeable, period.

[@etnoe5903]

people don't want unlikeable mains because they live vicariously through them for the duration of the film and don't want to see themselves as bad people

[@mike90317]

I've seen so many post framing Marla as "goaaaals!" YIKES.

[@marim8494]

as much as this is a valid critique, people have already romanticized marla

[@myaco6430]

Yes!!!!

[@whatreallymatters571]

@@marim8494 so those are actually bad people 😆

[@whatreallymatters571]

Exactly.

[@murrenkelly3866]

Something I’ve noticed with white feminists is the “well-mannered, well-tempered” part makes them very judgmental of any anger in minority-led feminism. For white women, we can get success without raising our assertiveness too much. We’re still below white men but not to the point of needing to angrily prove our worth the entire time. I’ve seen many minority groups and individuals suffer from the choice between being perceived as angry by standing their ground and expressing their needs or being “well-mannered” and being kept down by racism and patriarchy working hand-in-hand.

[@murrenkelly3866]

@@chidiogoikeh9516 I can definitely see that in society too. And going back to how movies make it a problem there are too many character duos of the sweet white woman and her angry snappy black best friend. All the “dirty business” in arguments gets pinned on the black counterpart but the white woman gets her “I’m standing up for myself and I’m proud” victory. And I think it’s ignorant for white men and women to say a community is “too angry” when oppressive systems are giving that community PLENTY of reason to be furious.

[@murrenkelly3866]

@@chidiogoikeh9516 I’m not gonna say I’m perfect about it in any sense but I do hope I can live and help others live in a way that allows black women to be truly authentic in their emotions and eventually relax in the same way white women can relax 💕

[@murrenkelly3866]

@@chidiogoikeh9516 Right back at ya!

[@kidawesomeness123]

it would be cool to see a feminist movie where the woman of color wasnt being encouraged to be angry and seething all the time though, like role reversal lets have a woc play an "amy dunne" "marla" type

[@bruhvibes5941]

Black Feminism is Lipstick Alley where the black women are against gender idealogy, black men and white women 😂

[@SonaliDas-xd1gm]

For me the fact that she didn't have a hard enough time while facing Roman took me out of the story. The whole time I was thinking how unreal it is that not only does she survive but even her loved one does. I felt like it was very low stakes for her. It was too easy and made the whole thing kinda boring

[@StarlightBibi]

I agree

[@imjustbuzzedd]

Yessss. Thisss. I felt the same like how is she cockaroaching out of this? Roman needs to fire the team.

[@KieraFelicia]

Thiiissss it was entirely too easy for her

[@RardTangler]

This is another reason why I feel like she doesn’t actually represent capitalism, but instead the state.

[@callmema14]

This movie kinda hit me in the feels because I work in a nursing home and stories of elderly ppl getting there assets taken is common. And it reminded me of how thw medical industry is a business first. In the movie everyone was helping Marla with her scam! The Dr, the nursing home administrator, etc! It's so slimy how many ppl helped and Marla made an company off of scamming old ppl. This happens in real life to some extent.

[@trianenopenottrian9108]

"Sufficient movies and slay"

[@mzgreenjeansapproves]

Seconded

[@whatreallymatters571]

Agreed

[@heathersaxton8118]

YES YES YES

[@heathersaxton8118]

This needs more likes

[@xo9562]

ong

[@remylabeau5140]

I’m a little bit confused because from the trailer I wasn’t even expecting her to be the least bit likable. I knew from the beginning This was a movie from the perspective of the bad guy.

[@snicole3610]

That's what I thought! I often watch movies with no inkling of what the movie is supposed to be about. The preview for this made it CLEAR that she was defrauding and taking away the autonomy of old ppl!

[@Peace4Leisure91]

Exactly!!! My thoughts exactly! The interesting point was what would actually happen to her, if she would face repercussions for her actions!

[@remylabeau5140]

@@Peace4Leisure91 yes! At least that’s what my viewing experience was.

[@remylabeau5140]

@@snicole3610 exactly. I hated her from the trailer. But like she said I believe people do believe that just because a movie is about someone, automatically means were supposed to be rooting for them.

[@kiffwerp9875]

EXACTLY LMAO

[@imani0nline]

I feel like film nowadays has been distilled down to movies about a single characters and their hero’s journey. Since when do we have to like the main character let alone root for them. In a lot of the classics most of the main characters hell (all the characters) kinda suck and do horrible things we aren’t meant to root for them but simply observe the spectacle and get from it what you will.

[@folded_pizza]

I have seen you in the comments of so many videos, I swear we are subscribed to the exact same people 😂💜💜

[@madlie2452]

I feel like Heathers is one of the best examples of this phenomenon. Not only are the Heathers and JD shitty people, but Veronica does some pretty heinous things throughout the movie. Just because she feels remorse for her actions does not mean we should automatically like her (look at Heather McNamara for example). The audience may like Veronica, but really almost everything she does throughout the movie should make us mostly dislike her.

[@madlie2452]

@@Chris-rg6nm You don’t have to identify with every single story’s protagonist. That would make for a boring book/movie industry. Sometimes you have to write about people that most people can’t relate to. The audience can be watching for the story and you can find other characters to route for besides the main protagonist. And sometimes writing a bad person as a relatable or sympathetic character for the right reasons causes the audience try to justify the characters reprehensible actions. For example, Lolita.

[@suski_dusk]

Great point! That’s why I feel sad when most people nowdays say ”classics are a bit boring and just not for me so I don’t read them”. Classics are classics because they have undoubtedly left a mark in the history of literature. They aren’t always fun and full of rainbows and they may be slow paced at times but usually there’s a reason for it. Let it be to calm down the reader or oh I don’t know, make the story a bit more realistic. I’m not saying that everyone should love classics, but what I am saying is that reading classics opens your eyes to what it is like to be in different situations and places in different times.

[@thgritic102]

It reminds me of when I was in English class, and my teacher kept repeating how main character/protagonist of a story doesn't mean they are the heroes of it. It means they are the one we are following along through whatever they are doing/going through. I feel like a lot of people keep forgetting that is the literal definition since so many movies now have heroes or some to root for as the protagonist instead of remembering any main person can be one whether good or bad.

[@karinajones3300]

As a bisexual woman, I agree with what you said at the end about her being in a lesbian relationship. I have no problem with LGBTQ+ people being villains, or just bad people, as long as they're not villains/bad people BECAUSE they are LGBTQ+. In fact I kind of like seeing LGBTQ+ who aren't just great splendid people because to me it does more to bridge the gap between chishet and non-cishet people. If LGBTQ+ people can't be bad people when cishet people can, it suggests a strong difference between these two groups when that's exactly what we're fighting against. I do understand people who have opposing views to this, but this is just my opinion

[@CherryDiMilo]

Show me examples of movies where they portray gays as bad BECAUSE they are gay ? Would be interesting to compare...

[@karinajones3300]

@@CherryDiMilo can't think of a movie, but JK Rowling wrote a book about a guy who murders women by disguising himself as a woman. She tried to claim she wasn't demonizing people who are non gender confirming, but in the book they talk about how in his childhood he would do certain things that suggested he "wanted to be a girl," and the book heavily implies that one of the reasons he's evil is because he has this history. I'm not sure how clear that is, if you need me to rephrase I can try again

[@kaichen04]

@@CherryDiMilo The Talented Mr. Ripley.

[@CherryDiMilo]

@@kaichen04 never interpreted that movie like that...

[@registeredjopper]

@@karinajones3300 I get where you’re coming from, but, for instance, there are killers in history (men) who murdered while disguised as women (at least one that ik of), and another example is that YTer who killed his coworkers and then himself bc he felt he was a [cartoon] woman and wanted to die to become that again (and chose to take others w him I guess..). There are probably situations where lgbtq+ people hurt others bc they’re lgbtq+ and either think they can get away with it bc of that or feel that they have some type of trauma associated w their status and use those feelings to justify hurting others. All of those stories can also be told without denigrating the lgbtq+ community. I think people get so stuck on the idea that you shouldn’t tell negative stories about marginalized groups that isn’t trauma porn (and god forbid that the negative actions of a person from a marginalized group is DUE TO their status in some way) but you can and it doesn’t have to be controversial.

[@merandasomnolentgamer8323]

People should know that the shit Marla was doing is real, people really do that. :( Great commentary Kennie.

[@VariousAndSundryBee]

People don’t like unlikable leads unless it’s Joker, Game of Thrones, etc.

[@mariahgumm8314]

You mean male antiheroes, yes? Because that's what those things have in common.

[@bandilenzimande5253]

People who actually like Joker will never cease to amaze me. I will be in disbelief every time.

[@stoneheart8231]

And even in content like GoT, the only "morally grey" characters that were fan favorites among show watchers were the ones that were specifically woobified by hbo

[@amanday3103]

I think it’s a little different with Joker because (at least in the most recent movie) they try to humanize him by showing how he is abused, has a difficult life, has mental illness, etc. Obviously once he starts murdering people that’s not justifiable or anything but what you know about him prior to him becoming a murderer makes him a slightly more sympathetic character.

[@lo4568]

@@amanday3103 I loved Heath's Joker. Insanely good acting + a somewhat likeable villain?

[@DreamingInTechnicolor]

I loved ‘I Care A Lot,’ although parts of it were a bit triggering... the state tried to take a relative by force in a similar manner and we had to fight like hell to get her freed up. Having said that, I truly enjoyed Rosamund Pike and Peter Dinklage’s performances. It was like if the chick from ‘Gone Girl,’ had a job in healthcare. IMO it was a 7 out of 10.

[@beckybertish7841]

Yes definitely had a gone girl vibe.

[@snicole3610]

I had a family member try to send able bodied family members old and middle aged away as well. It's terrible.

[@DB-su4ke]

a conversation can be had about how only male protagonists are allowed to be morally ambiguous or even downright assholes, and THAT is a big reason why the main character in this is hated. we as a people should have that conversation about our media one day. 😊

[@cvltclassic893]

You're so right. If Marla was a man this movie would've passed as your typical Netflix action thriller. Like they let Patrick Bateman get away with being awful with no explanation and American Psycho is said to be a masterpiece.

[@12wer3wer9]

@@cvltclassic893 american Psycho was criticized heavily at release. There were accusations of sexism and his character. So it's funny when people bring that up. But American Psycho is also a great movie with good writing and this is not.

[@cvltclassic893]

@@12wer3wer9 you're COMPLETELY missing the point. Patrick Bateman is a psychopathic asshole without motive and without back story who the audience rooted for. The Audience, the viewers, not the articles or the critics. Marla is a psychopathic asshole and all of a sudden she needs a reason, she needs a motive, she needs a backstory or she's a bad character for being what she's supposed to be because women aren't allowed to just be. "Great writing" is debatable. Great movie though.

[@mississipi1103]

I will never forget how people love and stan Joe Goldberg from You while hating the troubled blonde girl he killed

[@taylornicole8139]

Or even straight people sometimes? We all say we want more complex queer portrayal and people are mad that they are not good people and that the movie isn't some soft cottage core romance even though you can tell by the trailer and summary this is not a romance? i think these were really good characters and that shes actually an incredible girlfriend who always put her GF first, and they always listened to each other and trusted each other and never cheated on or did anything rude, they were a really good team it made my gay heart sing

[@emmanuella6712]

There was this movie that recently came out called “White Tiger”, about a poor Indian man who wanted to become as rich and powerful as the people he was working for. In the end he murdered his employer, became rich/successful, and had no negative consequences to his actions. What didn’t work for me in this movie was that because of this ending, it felt like the message was “do bad things and you shall be rewarded for them.” Now looking at “I Care a Lot”, I found the ending to be quite satisfying. Had Roman killed Marla it would have been quite a mundane “Men shall prevail” type of ending, and had Marla killed Roman it would have felt like a “Yeah! Girl Power! A girl can kill a powerful mafia man!” Which too, would have been a mediocre ending. By having them join forces and Marla getting shot by the man in the beginning of the movie, not only were those two previously mentioned endings avoided, but the message changed to karma/you reap what you sow, which was very satisfying for Mara’s hatable character to experience.

[@ativaadzem566]

But that's what it takes ( the majority of the times) to be rich. White tiger was realistic as hell to me

[@inescaetano9405]

I liked how they treated the fact that she was a lesbian and in a lesbian relationship, because they didn't make it a thing. Because we often see in films that the fact that a character is part of the LGBT community is an important factor that affects the development of the film. And in this film they didn’t do what was very good

[@mama456100]

I mean this entire movie was a caricature of negative whiteness from so many angles. Marla's white feminity used to get ahead in capitalism, Fran's ability to have strong ties to police and gather information to further incriminate others whilst being a criminal, Roman's entire human trafficking ring and his ability to buy into the grift that trapped his mother in a conservatorship, the mother taking on a false identity from a dead child but being seen as a model citizen while living this double life, the doctor needing a share in a company to share confidential patient information, and down to the man who shot Marla being a clear misogynistic asshole for the right reasons and him being threatened by the situation and murdering her. Its all a show of how the white ppl in this movie were able to so easily navigate this entire operation. Hell even the black male judge was so willing to accept everything Marla said with little interest in investigating further. It was an ok movie, I just wish the minions were a little bit more effective thats my main issue.

[@KaityT97]

Damn i didn't even consider the other aspects of this movie playing into negative whiteness as a whole. I dig that.

[@magnolia2]

Yeah that judge was a lil bitch. I just kept shaking my head at how quickly believing every word that came out of that woman’s mouth. He was chucking and jiving without questioning a darn thing she said or did. If she’d say “jump,” he’d already jumped 100 times before the command.

[@NexhiAlibias]

I cannot believe this got low ratings! It wasnt even bad the story was just frustrating as all hell. Loved it.

[@ajc9941]

The performances and writing was fine, but if I wanted to come out of a movie feeling so empty and upset, I’d watch a Holocaust doc.

[@williammahe]

@@ajc9941 I’m sorry but I am screaming at this reply 💀

[@UXtatic]

I believe there was a LOT of discomfort watching it. Hence the reaction. But this review (imo) is pretty real. Encountered women like this.

[@Thatgirlllk]

Same

[@staci110196]

I feel the same way! Absolutely love this movie and it'll probably be one I watch multiple times. I think the lead actress (forgot her name) played the character really well, and so did Peter Dinklage. But I could also be biased towards the lead character bc I loved her so much in Gone Girl as well. I honestly think she makes a really great villain/anti-hero type female character.

[@CostumedFiend_Audio]

I feel like audiences still don't know how to deal with evil/bad white women on screen. Men tend to write them off immediately, white women usually try to turn them into heroes, which in turn can be frustrating for non-white women, and we end up with a lot of think pieces. Personally morally grey/terrible characters in the lead can be hit or miss for me. It depends on the story and the execution. I'm definitely an analysis nerd so it is sometimes fun to watch someone so complex even if they're shitty.

[@ReplyGuy22345]

TL/DR women of colour should be writing white we women as villains

[@cniknik9863]

I don't understand why it has to be about specifically making a white woman evil by a woman of color. As a black woman, I liked/hated it because it featured a truly evil woman without an empathy inducing redemption arch. Just a stone cold evil villianness focused on greed. She tries to justify her actions with a the good movement of feminism, but it doesn't make us root for her BECAUSE she is evil. Just like male villains in movies, who have logical "reasons" for what cruel things they do. Doesnt make them right.

[@laurynelove7093]

@@ReplyGuy22345 ????

[@Firegirl483]

@@cniknik9863 it's like you didn't listen to anything Kennie said

[@moxiemaxie3543]

They dont know how to deal with "immoral" or flawed characters as the main character. No color necessary. But they also complain when a character is flawless. There is no please them lol

[@LindaMitchell]

Wolf of Wall Street is the exact thought that I had about this movie. I'm glad that you made the comparison of how people reacted to both differently.

[@05bastille]

"Avocados, frijoles, arroz, bitch" I was not prepared for such preaching... Gracias, Doña Kennie!

[@saghiv2726]

Maybe "Mediocre Movies & Makeup" could be the Title of these kinds of Films 😂

[@14omoon]

I like that one!!

[@beckybertish7841]

Yes because mediocre movies deserve love too

[@michelle-zy5mo]

And the first movie under this title should be Malcom and Marie😭💀

[@jessta.teresa3782]

Perfect even the title is mediocre

[@kennemedia01]

Either that or Mediorcre Movies and a Makeover

[@abbywolffe4114]

"Someone needs to beat the shit outta Ted Cruz" girl I felt that

[@kcorphan308]

Same.

[@WolfpupBrew]

As someone from Texas: yes, I agree.

[@kennemedia01]

As a fellow Texan I would love to see that shit happen

[@sarakhan-pk7ko]

"Thirst knows no season" Amen sis,amen

[@cheekblush]

it's interesting how male protagonists can be vile, horrible, greedy people and are still admired and liked e.g. jordan belfort in the wolf of wallstreet, walter white in breaking bad but female protagonists with the same traits are despised. how is jordan belfort any better than marla??

[@Fungigi]

Jordan Belford stole from people who wouldn’t miss the money. Walter White created his meth empire to take care of his family once his passed from cancer . Both plots were created to endear you to the character . Wrong is wrong but we universally are disgusted by those that harm the least of these in society. Her character was meant to be repulsive and the writers did a good job of that.

[@whyistheresky]

@@Fungigibut what Walter became was irredeemable and yet everyone seems to still think of him as a badass at the end

[@aanglin8804]

33:00 Yeah so there's this trope in film where the few lesbian characters that are introduced in films not explicitly about lesbianism are usually either villians, or are killed off fairly quickly. It comes from deep rooted misogyny and homophobia in the industry that refuses to just let lgbtq people be themselves and happy. I'm glad they added some subtle representation in, I'm glad they didn't make it the whole focus of the film, and I think there's something to be said for the role lgbtq white women play in white feminism, but it's still kinda side-eye worthy.

[@laylam.9314]

When you described the main character, I realized this is Karen: the movie.

[@safirak7988]

I think the main character is worse than a Karen, because it's easy to spot a Karen, shouting for the manager somewhere while Marla is very "posh" and put together.

[@laylam.9314]

@@safirak7988 I think the essence of the Karen is not only how loud a racket she makes (and at some point this woman spits at that dude about ripping his d*ck off) but how many people she's willing to screw over and treat like crap to get what she wants. Also her arrogance of believing she's earned the right to get everything because she's such a hard working upstanding citizen, when she just a massive bitch bullying the elderly.

[@bouncyshak]

There's a literal Karen in the movie and she's just as awful.

[@jejeamaris8186]

Literally how i saw it the whole movie but she's like a karen to karens

[@moxiemaxie3543]

Karen feels entitled. Its more like acting virtuous when you're not

[@amyg8176]

Speaking as a white woman in an interracial gay relationship- I loved that she was a lesbian! And I love that it wasn’t even mentioned. Like. If I gotta watch another goddamn movie where the lesbian plot is “coming out to non supportive parents” I’m gonna scream. We’re just people! We can do crimes and be bad!

[@katharineeavan9705]

What part of be gay do crime are people not getting? For real though, the fact it was just the relationship she was in and not a massive deal or a villifying OR redeeming trait was actually a highlight of the film for me.

[@lordofanime7540]

What part of u liking is what I’m truly not getting. This movie suck

[@windego999]

As a gay male, I agree. We're all still just people. But I think they're too afraid of exploring those themes for fear of the internet social justice crowd cancelling them because they dared try to be realistic and critiqued something other than evil white people. I hate that we can't ever have anything but stereotypes because someone might get mad.

[@chloesdeadinside8982]

This series’s is honestly the highlight of my Saturday

[@EncyclopediaBrittanica]

I feel that lol

[@s.s6081]

Same

[@5my9other93half]

Bad Movies and a Beat Good Movies and a Glam Decent Movies and I'm Done Up The trilogy is complete.

[@natalie6092]

Kennie and Tea Noir need to collab. That conversation would be everything 🤩

[@Darkthestral1]

Honestly this sounds like people don't like that they held up a mirror to "American Values" and showed what they really look like. Even the name is the passive aggressive performance of false empathy. Definitely going to watch this movie now thank you. P.s. you're right about White Feminism it's very much "I should get to be an oppressiver and jackass too"

[@LY-js7ff]

why does the word „white feminism” even exist ???!! EVERY women in EVERY country always has been oppressed and still is, this is just ridiculous. don’t act like it’s different, cuz feminism is about gender it’s got nothing to do with ethnicity (I don’t like to use the word “race” as I think there’s only one race the human race)

[@hayoonpark7454]

@Bella Rose Not only black woman but lots of other Poc

[@hayoonpark7454]

@Bella Rose Mhmm

[@_indigo_inked]

@@LY-js7ff hey homie, it’s called “white feminism” cause the original feminist movement in America was created by white women who pushed POC women to the side to try and obtain rights faster. They essentially said “We deserve the right to vote because we’re white and equal to you white men, we’re not requesting anything crazy like being anti-slavery or saying black people should also vote. We want something reasonable, unlike those abolitionist people.” That’s not to say there weren’t any white feminist who were also against slavery, but the movement was literally built in a way to shove other people down to climb above them faster. It’s a really shitty past and while feminism has been reformed and made a ton better than that, some people still do something similar. Some white women shove POC voices down and push their views to the side by instead prioritizing their own without the acknowledgement of their own privilege. Women should hold each other up and try to all receive the best treatment possible, but that doesn’t always happen. A lot of the time white women have it easier and could be helping to amplify POC voices, but instead they use their privileges to climb above POC. They focus more on competing with white men in power than the improvement of women’s lives, which heckin sucks. So when white women end up being exclusionary to POC women and their issues, it slips into the traditional “white feminism”

[@WanjiraNyokabii]

@@LY-js7ff You didn't watch this whole video, did you?

[@helenamerla2055]

People love 'The wolf of Wall street' and hate 'I care a lot' for the same reasons, which is in itself quite misogynistic

[@abnormpsych17]

Right? As kennie was making the comparison between the main characters of each movie I recalled that in wolf of wallstreet literally rapes his wife at one point.

[@ririschannelx]

Do you mean men lol

[@bloopdaddy]

People are so dumb. She isn't the protagonist, she's an antagonist. That'ss the point people.

[@Saint_Medusa]

i wanted to say that becuase i was like " wasnt the wolf of wall street main character also a ahole " like i have watch the movie and i get that it might have bad writing but people are soley attacking the main character and i cant help but to think if she was a he people might still hate the movie but not the main character

[@bloopdaddy]

@@abnormpsych17 bruh chill, he doesn't rape her. she consents one last time before leaving.

[@millierock9177]

i feel like you could compare the confusion with this movie to "my best friends wedding" where people lump "my best friends wedding" into the toxic romcoms when the movie is meant to call out how wrong it is. like, people assume that because she is the main character, that means she's a protagonist, but in reality its focusing on the antagonist's pov

[@kennedyjojackson1202]

Definitely! Not to mention Julia Robert's character learns her place in the end. She realizes that she's not ready for a long-term relationship, especially marriage even if it is to somebody she trusts, like Michael. Kimmy being the 'perfect girl' doesn't make her immune to imperfect circumstances, she almost had her wedding ruined, she was hurt and livid. she trusted Julianne, who knew she was thrown into being her temporary best friend and maid of honor, you can't help but feel for the both of them.

[@ondiiina]

Just coming in to say that a protagonist is not necessarily a good person or a hero. It simply means "main character". An antagonist is the person who oppose the protagonist. An antagonist can be the "hero" depending on whose POV the story follows. So I guess in your example you mean either "hero" or "good guy"? It also reminds me of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend in which the protagonist is literally the "villain in her own story". It aimed to deconstruct many things which made Rebecca sympathetic and likeable (mostly using your own bias and switched between framing her actions as okay and as terrible so that you don't know whether or not you're rooting for her) so I don't think it's in the same situation as your example for criticism. You made it sound really interesting though so I'll check it out!

[@Flowerpower2407]

When a film is hated on the bases of the characters it’s usually because they’re so good on their role that they have convinced you and made you hate them, for me I had that moment and learnt this from Christian Bales character in Shaft. I then realised I didn’t hate Mr Bale but rather his character because I found his role so vile and very real.

[@jamiea.m.3037]

In a recent course I took on writing/storytelling, it was emphasized that a good story doesn’t need a likeable main character, but an intriguing one. Someone whose story you want to see to the end, even if it’s because you wish to see their fall.

[@bowiebloom9121]

Honestly as a lesbian I don’t like that she’s in a lesbian relationship because I definitely feel that there is a big stereotype that lesbians are just man hating white feminist girl boss types. We’re also often considered much more manly in action. I think it would’ve been better if she was straight because it would keep her narrative focused on white feminism. I feel that it takes away from the criticism of white feminism when it’s mixed up with it also being a negative stereotypical portrayal of a lesbian. I definitely think some people could come out of it with a subconscious message that her sexuality has something to do with how she acts rather then it just being white feminism. I’m not very good at wording this sorry but I hope this makes sense?

[@madeleineherrick1793]

I agree with you. I think that Marla's character being gay detracted from the satirical exploration of white feminism because women's sexuality is a whole other element of gender politics, so just throwing it in there muddled the message. It would be one thing if she was just shown to be a lesbian in passing, but the film routinely has scenes of them being a couple. And no matter how sincere the relationship seems to be, they are still intentionally written to be terrible people who steal money from the elderly. The audience is supposed to be disgusted by them, and I think it's really hard in this case to separate their villainy from their sexuality because these are the only two aspects of their characters. Also, there is already the issue that fictional villains are very commonly queer-coded. The decision to write an explicitly gay villain, when there is no counter-balancing positive representation in the film and good media representation of lesbians is so rare as it is, is in poor taste.

[@Natalia-ti9yl]

@@madeleineherrick1793 I completely agree. Plus it being written by a man makes the intentions of him making her character a lesbian questionable

[@aliceinscaryland]

@@Natalia-ti9yl wait! are we sure, that she was meant to be unlikeable and that's not just another case of "men writing women"? xD

[@pitpat2928]

exactly i was thinking finally a casual portrayal of a loving lesbian relationship and they’re evil girlboss capitalists?

[@Natalia-ti9yl]

@@pitpat2928 lol right! I just want a hallmark story line lesbian movie where the career lesbian falls for a cottage core lesbian during her trip to a small town with a beautiful happy ending lmao

[@liteflightify]

I do feel some of the hate this is getting is a gender thing. I don’t think it’s a “good” movie in the least bit. It’s unrelenting “wink-wink” tone can be annoying. It lacks nuance. It isn’t particularly clever or tension filled. Its characterization isn’t all that good. And it doesn’t feel entirely confident with what it’s going for and not in a purposely “ambiguous” way. But you’re right, it’s not “bad” or at least it isn’t much worse than a lot of movies made in its vein with male leads. It does seem a percentage of audiences just love being hyper-critical of and aggressively sh*tting on movies with unlikable female leads, while often glossing over the problems in movies with aggressively unlikable male protagonists. (Yeah, I made it a gender thing). Also, a lot of “regular people” don’t get satire or parody unless it’s extreme and over-the-top. I’m not a fan of the movie, but I wouldn’t be mad if Ms Pike got an Oscar nod. While the aggressive attacks it’s received just feels uncalled for and don’t seem as if they’d be as widespread, angry and condescending if it had a male lead.

[@TenYen]

I would say it's a gender thing! If it was a guy like the one from American Psycho, it wouldn't be getting this much backlash if any.

[@thiseconomyiscra_y]

A gender thing, for sure. Anna, atomic blonde, and other action films have trashy reviews, even if the only difference in those is the leads were women. The lead for ANNA was very great, and the story is awesome, but m3n kept on commenting that she can't beat up men with her size (even though Russian women can have a size like her and become a spy/military). Same with Atomic Blonde, but she def has more muscle than ANNA. But if those were men, even though how skinny they are, it wouldn't be questionable. No matter how boring the fucking plot is.

[@odorutori]

@@TenYen The difference being that American Psycho had great writing, both as a novel and as a film that put a new perspective on the original text. If anything, Rosamund Pike does her best to transcend the shoddy writing she is constricted to (and for that, she deserves credit). It all feels like nobody knew what the movie should be, and that extends to the messages the movie sends. Is it advocating for the "girlboss" or is it criticizing her? And is it really more clever to lay it all out in the open and let us make the conclusions? It's all very alibistic and toothless and it could really have been so much more - in fact, it could play up the b-movie quality to great effect. And that would bring me to Showgirls... EDIT: I am just watching the video and Kennie does put all the problems with it out there very eloquently. At the end of the day this is a film full of interesting ideas and talented actors who both deserve a more substantial and truly provocative material. Great job!

[@AndSoWeLaughed]

She’s a great actor, but this is not Oscar worthy. She was able to show more range in gone girl, in which she was a shitty feminist also. If she got a nod they’d be proving the point that feminism is for white women and they experience much more privilege than any other race. And I don’t even think that’s pikes fault.

[@liteflightify]

@@odorutori I don’t care that much for American Psycho, but I agree that it’s more thematically confident and had more perspective than this film. (Also, Christian Bale’s body and face in that movie...).

[@imani0nline]

Whyte woman wildin is a movie genre I am willing to support 😌

[@lilenwasnothere6867]

i am not. glee and showgirls were enough

[@JasmineTheSaint]

@@lilenwasnothere6867 lol ☺

[@ririschannelx]

Only when it’s starring Rosamund Pike 😌

[@lizz9896]

try "the perfection" if you haven't seen it yet ;)

[@mewmew6158]

@@lizz9896 THAT movie was an experience 😭

[@utep3]

I was fired as a Doctor in Virginia, when I refused to testify that the older woman I saw was not incapacitated, did not need a Guardian. There are 1-2 million Guardians in USA stealing every thing from elderly & infirm.

[@zaine1646]

The amount of advanced words she uses is gonna make me pass my SATs or something. Like, I feel like my vocabulary has grown hahahaha

[@afterly]

I Care A Lot: Girlboss, Gaslight, Gatekeep 😎🚬

[@mike90317]

girlboss queen slay yasss

[@AD-cy4vj]

💁🏻‍♀️💖

[@Twigssss]

My problem with this movie isn’t how marla is unlikable because that’s what she’s supposed to be .. the plot is just too predictable and stupid . Her whole situation with the mafia is just meh

[@fawnalexander9387]

I suppose if they made it more realistic the mob would have just immediately offed her and her partner and the movie would be like 15 minutes long, so they had go add the whole cat and mouse bs.

[@mmokayy]

saaame. I honestly knew what was going to happen way too often. And also Russiam mafia? but they dont speak Russian once? could have just made them human traffickers.

[@FenrisFKN]

Warning, spoilers below: My issue with the movie is how blatantly dumb the mafia plot is. People don't just walk off and overthrow a mafia boss with no consequences whatsoever. The movie would have been drastically improved if there were any consequences for her actions rather than her being "bad but still a boss bitch uwu". She could be awful for all I care, I wanna see actual character struggle, be it growth or consequences and in this movie there is literally 0 of that. It just felt unsatisfying and bland all the way through. The idea has merit, the execution not so much.

[@kaypat23]

EXACTLY. Why didn't anyone even stay behind at the lake to properly ensure she's dead and doesn't resurface?? You're telling me the Russian mafia didn't even think of that?? And it's so easy to kidnap their main boss? Gimme a break.

[@Frequencycle00]

Exactly and both of them lived after that hit they took. Like her GF was breathing in gas and blood pouring out but they're just fine. If it were any other race or gender people would've died a little faster

[@j24030]

I feel like people hated this movie cause it didn't glorify what she was doing (ex. wolf of wall street)

[@vectralahu9200]

no no its true

[@ty_hens]

True. But that may not be the only reason

[@whatreallymatters571]

Right, it's like thet left it up to the viewer to make her wrong. People like to live through the characters and there were some relatable moments to her but overall she is a disgusting person and for what she deserved. People need to stop expecting to be hand feed.

[@jait7578]

I didnt need to like her. I loved the first half but the second almost seemed comedic

[@LangkeeLongkee]

She glorified it so well by getting shot.

[@waverlyplace2861]

As a white lesbian I really liked that they made her gay. It pointed out that being LGBTQ+ and being a bad person are not mutually exclusive. It's humanizing for her character and it's not used to excuse what she does and her treatment of Fran is used to show how truly garbage Marla is as a person. It adds an extra layer to her character and while it could be read as homophobic I just never got that vibe so......¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@nonah7675]

I love the public's reaction to this movie more than anything. They idolize terrible men. People still won't shut up about how they wish they could be more like Jordan Belfort in The Wolf of Wall Street. He was a *real* heinous man. People love watching shitty men win.

[@whyistheresky]

Yeah this. How many dudes wanna be Tyler Durden? Why are female anti-heroes not allowed? I liked Marla’s character. Even though she. Was evil. That was the point.

[@Lavenderluvsbooks]

I truly enjoyed this movie. I watch all of her movies. She truly plays crazy white American woman exceptionally.

[@tshidi129]

Haven't watched but, I adore Rosamund Pike

[@ririschannelx]

Even more impressive that she’s british

[@cubedsquared7909]

Rosamund Pike is just endlessly watchable.

[@lilguyonhiswaytothemall]

I originally knew her as Jane Bennett from Pride And Prejudice, so she's definitely got a great acting range if she can go from the loveable Jane Bennett to these pretty evil characters

[@saininj]

I was thinking to myself, where have I seen her face before...oh yeah, Gone Girl." Definitely explains a lot.

[@Drewski217]

This was wonderful. I haven't seen the movie but I'm reminded of how, during the (second) press run for 'Get Out', [spoiler villain] talked about how people wanted to make excuses for her character in some way so that she 'wasn't as evil' instead of recognizing that she used her agency and leveraged her whiteness to ultimately be a villain who knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Society has been set up to RUSH to forgive and see white women as frail/easily taken advantage of in a way non white women never get and there's definitely white women that weaponize that for their own gains like here. It's that there's no inch or way to interpret Marla as anything but a ruthless money hungry person taking advantage of the system that has people not liking her or the movie. There's no way to make her 'frail' and remove responsibility for her actions for them and they're confronted with her actually being as bad as she is.

[@missidraws]

The only thing I didn’t like about this movie is holding her death for ransom and how incompetent Roman’s henchmen were.

[@sarinakhan6946]

Literally YES! It takes away from everyone. That one detail just makes Marla seem less powerful. It makes Roman's threats and his whole character seem like it was unnecessary. It makes Jenifer's potential history worthless. It completely removes any "thrill" from the movie. Marla keeps winning because everyone around is just coincidentally dumb like the laser, the judge, Roman + his whole squad of people... then again maybe that was the root of the joke or something either way I'm disappointed. It could've been better.

[@kaimoon3232]

Exactly! Its like she wasn't dealing with the Russian mafia. And what useless goons, they couldn't get anything right. The movie felt quite unrealistic in that aspect. And how can people be complaining to the judge about the same thing and he still doesn't see anything fishy? Idk but none of it felt believable. Loved her acting, but it was a little too far fetched for her to win at everything

[@missidraws]

@@kaimoon3232 Facts! I wanted to be scared of Roman’s minions so bad but after the debacle at the nursing home I was turned off. I would have accepted her paying off the judge. This movie could have been great.

[@kaimoon3232]

@@missidraws I agree with you! If the judge was in her pocket, it could have been more believable but he was just a dimwit lol. The fact that Roman watched his mother run to the car and she never made it, then he drove off made me want to fight! If it was a believable story line, I would've supported the movie, it just wasn't unfortunately and they lost me there

[@iluvorchids9o]

Yes, I also didn't like how careless Marla was towards the end. She didn't get bodyguards even though she knew ppl probably wanted to kill her, she also took the deal with Roman even though she could have just asked for more money.

[@akay_g9]

I Loved the Movie! Here's Why: In my opinion, it's the only movie that I've, and I think many people in general have ever seen that was written with a purely morally grey story! It philosophically shows that many situations do not fall into good or bad territory. For instance the Main Character loves the very positive philosophy of feminism, yet, she uses it as an excuse to justify her narcissistic actions, similarly the mobster is...a goddamn mobster, yet he genuinely loves his mother and would and has, quite literally kill for his Mom...a trait that some view as honourable, similar moral complexity applies to every other as well, it also does a great job of critiquing the dark underbellies of Big-Business. All that, in just one movie, can only be achieved through skillful technical writing, that deserves high praise. I've seen people's negative comments saying, "It had too much politics!", Or "It was so Unrealistic!", or that "It's nothing like that Gone Girl movie!, Or "It's confusing and it's theme isn't clear!" People, calm down...Chill! Firstly, of course it's nothing like Gone Girl! This is a whole new movie from a different Film Company, Different Directors, Different Writers, etc. It's not linked to Gone Girl, yet, I suppose just because the same actor that played he main character in "Gone Girl", also played the main Character in "I Care A Lot", then somehow they need to Constantly be compared to one another as movies, which is silly, because It's like saying that since two different houses both have the same colour paint on them, then one of those houses should change it's design to be more similar to the other, otherwise it'll be bad. In terms politics, the only political things are like two scenes where the main character brags about being a Feminist, and It's critiques on Shady Business, also in the case of this movie, it's written in a way that knowing the main characters' political ideology actually helps to sell her hypocritical nature in the story, unfortunately however, some people feel way too threatened when they see things that are outside their echo-chamber of Ideologies in media, to the point where it becomes quite Irrational. On the "unrealistic-ness", I think people forgot that this movie is a Dark Comedy, so by nature some scenes are gonna be exaggerated for humour, and as I'll elaborate in my next paragraphs, is arguably one of the most wrong critiques of this movie. On the film "being confusing", well, It's theme is unclear, because it's theme is not supposed to be clear. In the end, you gotta remember that in life, right here in reality, there exists Good Villains and Terrible Heroes, Ugly Saints and Beautiful Sinners... in face of all that things gets muddy, and the movie "I Care Alot", is full of exactly that, and that, I feel, is exactly why so many people got annoyed by this Film. It's because, Facing a reality that life is full of alot of moral grey areas can be a genuinely frustrating thing to confront, but in doing so, I think we can broaden our view on life.

[@dim307]

REALLY A+++ COMMENTARY my god. a good, well written character =/= a good person. i liked this character in the narrative she encapsulates so concisely, and she’s a good vehicle to demonstrate…well, everything you covered. i love your goofy shit but i love when you get really deep into analysis. the fact you juggle both so seamlessly is what makes your content so addictive. and of course, the beats. your artistry is just crazy. love it

[@annagorham568]

the camera cutting off so it looks like your shirt just says "thirst knows no season" seems very on brand lmfao

[@pinkmazohyst]

THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT IT SAID 💀

[@lune5146]

CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW FREAKIN BEAUTIFUL KENNIE LOOKS IN THIS VIDEO

[@lilash7918]

right??? she was absolutely correct, her base looks soooo good. And the blush. And the eyeshadow. Flawless. She done did it again

[@zahraahmed5238]

Right, the enitire time I was just thinking her base looks so smooth.

[@Saitinashorts]

The trigger warnings get more hilarious each week 😂

[@slsthewriter1299]

I feel like the coin that white patriarchy and white feminism share is the dangerous sides of masculinity and femininity. I don't know who first thought that femininity is inherently weak, because it most certainly isn't, and that masculinity is stronger…cause it isn't. I find that it's representative of the same pattern where bullies who are the boys, and then bullies who are the girls. Obviously case-by-case, but boys usually take on the masculine approach and _outwardly_ bully through slurs, insults and violence, whereas girls are usually manipulative, passive-aggressive and are the ring-leaders of their cliques. Then there's how men and women abuse career fields; corrupted cops are largely men, and corrupted nurses are largely women. Then there's the murderers. Men usually are more violent, and notable woman serial killers were those who used poison and/or hired help. Again, case-by-case. Take things with a grain of salt, blah. Point is, bad masculinity bad. Bad femininity bad. Bad is bad. Goodnight.

[@slsthewriter1299]

@Frumentarii Ah, I see you are illiterate. None of what I said insinuated anything about feelings over facts. Sure, I'm not spitting statistics or referencing articles here. But uh…yeah. Good luck with that pretentious streak you have.

[@bruhvibes5941]

@Frumentarii Feelings are bad, we understand.

[@aleco444]

So the mafia guy, wasn't he trafficking women. Didn't people see that scene of him going through women's photos. Yet, we hate her so much💀🤨🤔 I mean, I get it but-

[@jeffs_r_us7166]

Yeah he sucked too, but it seemed to me like he was portrayed as the lesser of two evils, even if they’re both awful you’re probably gonna wanna root for whoever sucks less. Not saying human trafficking is lesser than exploiting old people, but that Marla’s awfulness was highlighted much more. That’s why I wanted him to shrek her, not the other way around.

[@lordofanime7540]

We hate her cause she fucking suck he sucks to but it was one scene and never talk about again on the other hand we got miss Karen who throughout the whole movie is attacking the elderly and some freaking way defeats a mob boss

[@MareoYapp]

Their drug mules

[@verda_renee]

We basically hate everybody in this movie except the old lady who we still sort of side-eye because she knows her son is trash and seems to be okay with it. Essentially, errybody trash.

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

I'm all for movies being realistic, especially when characters do things that are awful in real life but shrugged off or glamorized on the tv screen. Like toxic romance, sometimes I want them to break up or the woman to walk away because IT'S NOT WORTH IT. We don't always have to wait it out. This is the perfect case of calling out toxic character's. Not every movie needs a happy ending

[@12wer3wer9]

True, but it still needs good writing and this one is full of plot holes and the Mafia is just plain unrealistic. Marla is a Marie Sue and that's just uninteresting to watch. I love movies with villains or morally ambiguous leads, but Marla has no nuance whatsoever.

[@blueismylove3128]

@@12wer3wer9 Exactly. They can kill the doctor lady easily, but had trouble with Marla? Also there is no way Marla and Fran would have been able to nearly kill the mafia boss. That was WAY too far outside my capability to suspend my belief.

[@michelle-zy5mo]

Everytime you put “white women” in the disclaimer I SCREECH😭😭💀

[@michelle-zy5mo]

THE HAIR, YOUR HAIR IS SO FUCKING CUTE! EDGES LAID, DOUBLE PONYTAIL. CUTE!

[@AshleyMcMahon]

As someone who watched this right after Framing Britney Spears, the fact that this is legal and that it’s effectively impossible to get out of legal guardianship as an adult (because, from what I’ve seen, any objection to said guardianship is seen by the courts as the ward needing continued guardianship even when it is in fact not needed.) this was terrifying. Den of Geek did a review of sorts and linked to a NYT article about conservatorship and how much of a mess it is and how much of a lack of oversight there is. So this movie severely pissed me off, and it did it’s job. I need to see some changes in this system because of how easy it is to exploit it.

[@madisonwyatt9822]

with every video i watch your vocabulary gets intensely substantial. it keeps me on my toes.

[@joyb_0008]

The queen is back

[@readmore6042]

Bad Movies and A Beat is the only thing giving me energy these weekends.

[@Blue_Lunacy]

I guess that the reason for people criticize this movie in the LGBTQ+ angle was because the lesbian character was a villain and was killed. While it's true that her being a lesbian had nothing to do with her being evil or the reason she was killed. But LGBTQ+ characters were often written as villains and/or get killed, at a much larger percentage than the straight counterparts. And often time, they were the only one or two character in that particular story. Is this a valid criticism for this movie? I don't know.

[@whatreallymatters571]

I felt something along the lines but my take was that it seems that all the girl bosses tend to be lesbian. Or if there is a main female character and she is powerful in some way she tends to be lesbian. Irs weird, they aren't ever shown as delicate human beings.

[@ajc9941]

I think it’s worth criticizing. Doesn’t make it good or bad, just worthy of discussing. I think ignoring it isn’t a good thing.

[@hayoonpark7454]

And she is stereotypical

[@hayoonpark7454]

@@ajc9941 It is bad, since she’s a stereotype.

[@hayoonpark7454]

@@whatreallymatters571 🎶Stereotypes. 🎶

[@melanieriddle2357]

“Decent movies and a dish” I love it!

[@Marley-18.]

‘Decent movies and a dish’ I love it.

[@leslievanhouten]

Tyrion’s vague mafia things is trafficking women. And I bet 100% that everyone hates Marla probably loves Roman, even though he’s a far worse character in terms of how he makes his money.

[@liz6706]

Also the way his mom took the identity of a dead child, and was even willing to kill Marla with a smile on her face really makes clear how this movie doesn’t give you anyone to root for (except perhaps the elderly people)

[@AndSoWeLaughed]

I feel like that’s also down to the writing as well. Because the movie tries to point this out, they deliberately wrote it like this, which defeats its point in my opinion. Edit: I think people may root for the mum being saved, rather than for the guy himself. Just how - we rooted for her to be shot, we were happy. But we don’t automatically (or at least I don’t) think the guy is a good guy - I mean he just shot her. But were human and I think this is the way we see justice. but also is that an us problem? Probably.

[@ashlabelle]

I hated him too tbh cause I caught the trafficking bit. I hated like every single character.

[@badumtiss5288]

Seeing "Tyrion" Made My Little Heart Skip A Beat Lol

[@SammyP038]

@@liz6706 I was rooting for the guy who shot her lol, once I saw him in the first scene I was like this dude better save his mom and get revenge

[@Honeyin2013]

This movie wasn’t that bad or that good it was just kinda corny. When I first watched it I actually didn’t see much commentary about white feminism or just feminism being made outside of the scene right after the first hearing, so it was interesting to listen to kennies thoughts. The main message I got from the movie was actually that we NEED to watch out for are elders more and make sure to take care of are parents. I think a lot of people don’t think much about what’s going to happen to their parents when they get so old they can’t take care of themselves anymore. I think most people just assume they’re going to put their parents in a home and they’ll be fine. This movie seemed to point out that you really have to watch out for your parents even if you do decide to put them in a home because anyone in the system could take advantage of them.

[@hillaryoi8946]

Thank you. This whole comment section is low key pissing me off. Outside of sexist double standards people should dislike her because she is a trash evil person. With Jennifer we don't really know how involved with her son's life but watching her just sell everything Jennifer worked for and medicating her into a premature grave had me hot. From a working class perspective it was deeply disturbing. Ownership is important to "poor" people too. If the feminist lens is the only one a viewer wants to take then just look at the elderly women who Marla was fucking over. If they were boomers then those assets took a lot more effort to obtain due to wage gaps, discrimination at work and gender based hiring being a lot more acceptable when those women were young.The film really wasn't as smart as it thought it was to be honest. The pacing was also questionable.

[@marproperty1]

@@hillaryoi8946 EXACTLY it had me so mad how she just snatched her out her place like that and sold all her shit and mistreated her then complained ab her son being 'unfair' to her 🙄

[@hillaryoi8946]

@Bella Rose I didn't say it wasn't important. It's just not done well here. It was very surface and I also doubt the film makers really looked into the limitations of white feminism. Or did I miss the groundbreaking intersectional social commentary. They didn't talk about race at all in the film.

[@hillaryoi8946]

@Bella Rose Yeah no. Marla happened to be white because female leads are almost always white. The fact that the feminism displayed embodied the limitations of white feminism is the CRITIQUE. You can't discuss privilege without acknowledging oppression. You can't say the film is about a white women leveraging her position in society without showing how it effects non white women. So yeah the film makers did not care/show about how Marla's whiteness assisted her is scamming and to say that the lack of discussion about race just highlights that pov is such a reach. The film makers just didn't think of that perspective which is why Kenny said the way her skin shielded Marla stood out to her. It was an oversight.

[@thasthar]

@@hillaryoi8946 yeah... you make a good point

[@RaetheSaint]

Your disclaimers are the best! The “white womaning” warning was much needed 😌

[@showayi]

Kennie's ability to roast AND critique movies is unmatched. Also, I'm totally here for a good movie review series as well 👀

[@ladydiamond6611]

Its interesting Kennie, because when you mentioned the male capitalistic opponent being a person with dwarfism. The first thing I thought the director was maybe challenging the audience and the female mair character of the movie. That in this society often people would see dwarfism as something that "made him less masculine/of a man," but the very point that the director hired him in this particular role was to challenge the audience on their inner ableist and to make the point that even still, her knowing all the struggles he would have been through, the female main character still wanted to win against him, to overtake him. Showing that EVEN SHE possessed no sympathy, even she would overtake him at moments noticed, adding to her unlikeable nature.

[@millierock9177]

disclaimer: white womaning-

[@misscates1019]

After watching this movie, the character that I was most annoyed with was the Judge. Can’t say he colluded with her🤔, but his willingness to believe reaffirmed the power white women have in the justice system. Women that are considered too affable to be conniving.

[@camdenhunt7565]

Great critique of this film! We need more "unlikable" female characters, tbh. Also white femininity can be a bit more dangerous than white patriarchy because white femininity can be used in a lot of different spaces and environments than white patriarchy. White femininity tends to lean on perceived innocence and white female fragility which can be used in interpersonal relationships, work places etc. White femininity can be and has been weaponized and used against POC, WOC and especially black women. For example, you ever had a white female co-worker start crying when you told her she did something wrong or offended you? That's that good ole' white female fragility.

[@FabalociousDee]

Sometimes even tears aren't needed, honestly. I've experienced and been witness to that.

[@suncoco6495]

@@chidiogoikeh9516 it was that case in Dallas right? I remember that. Smh

[@suncoco6495]

@@chidiogoikeh9516 Girl, 🤦🏾‍♀️ i got so angry when I saw that. I swear if those were any of my family members I would’ve disowned them right then & there. Honestly though.

[@camdenhunt7565]

@@FabalociousDee Yes yes! Tears are not always used, they are experts at gaslighting.

[@camdenhunt7565]

@@chidiogoikeh9516 Yes I remember that! One of many cases that pissed me off. And I agree, those tears they are very powerful. Also a notable case of that was Rosewood, a white woman lied and said that a black man attacked her and was able to use her femininity and perceived innocence to manipulate a whole group of white men into burning a town completely to the ground. And Emmett Till! And there are so many more examples. I have white female friends that still struggle to grasp the concept of how their whiteness and femininity work hand in hand to oppress us.

[@sabrinabrasher8589]

this movie gives me "Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." vibes

[@steffi2261]

You're stupid then. Feminism is about being as or more powerful as men

[@peachdusted1580]

@@steffi2261 I don't think Sabrina disagrees with you. It's just that this is the boomer mentality of what feminism is and that's what the OP said. Lol.

[@Raulbikcube]

I believe this was a real quote (from Pat Robertson, I think?) Yet I'm sure he's fine with women working and some of the other things that feminists fought for. I think most men are just fine with a lot of the principles of feminism as long as you don't call it that. If you don't call it feminism it's much easier to convince men to embrace feminist principles. It's colossally messed up.

[@Ominous_Bambi]

The thing about her being a lesbian is that it’s a theme in movies about evil women that men write. There’s this trope that like “only a woman who has no interest in getting male attention would be so cruel” or like “she hates men [because straight dudes think that’s what being gay is] so that’s why she’s so mean to these poor men.” It’s just really frustrating when men write a an evil (or sometimes not even evil, just self assured) female character and then also make her gay.

[@sunnygirly2k4]

Reminds me somewhat of Basic Instinct's criticism.

[@juliana43]

i haven’t seen the movie but i wasn’t aware that she was sapphic/lesbian and idk if this is me being reactionary or butthurt but as a lesbian i’m so exhausted of our only representation being transphobic or predatory. like, i can’t even name any sort of mainstream not-explicitly-for-the-community lesbian character that’s just a lesbian living their best life. not to mention that this woman is predatory!!! and that is a harmful lesbian stereotype. and it’s a disservice to trans lesbians, and lesbians that have done their work and are good people. just like.... can we finally have a lesbian that’s a good person pls

[@murrenkelly3866]

I definitely agree! One other good example I can think of is Veronica in Always Be My Maybe but that’s a good example among far too many bad examples. I’ve seen a lot of better representation in foreign films but the US has so much influence with movies and TV we need to get our act together.

[@gooses7315]

as a lesbian, i'd rather have no representation than bad representation. it's so insulting that every character is like this. also, transphobia is so frustrating. can we please have trans lesbian representation???

[@murrenkelly3866]

@@gooses7315 It really upsets me when I hear others say “oh she doesn’t seem lesbian” if I mention one of my friends going out with a girl or having a crush on a girl. The idea of “seeming lesbian” comes from a lot of the bad representation we need to get rid of.

[@xxxluckycharmsxxx]

AGREED!!!

[@liswane]

Ok, I totally agree to being concerned about this, but (hear me out) maybe watch the movie first. It never pretended to be a lesbian love story, it's about this con-woman who steals money from old people and her partner, lover or whatevs happens to be a woman. Like, the main focus isn't about her sexuality at all, the movie only shows how they comfort each other when they get in trouble and their love is never put into question, and I personally think it's great to have casual representation sometimes, rather than always putting the main character's love life as the only storyline. to follow. I do agree with you that there is a lack of lesbian couples just thriving in movies, but I still think this movie was just trying to paint a woman unhinged, it wasn't focusing on her personal life, rather on her obsession with getting power however she can. Still, I also want a sapphic cute couple like LJ and Peter in to all the boys... someday...

[@beguiled10]

Okay..this film is not a satire and its not bad because people don't like her.. This movie is an attempt at a commentary about white woman privilege that is subverted by its own bad filmmaking. The tone is confused between a comedy and a thriller. The acting is lazy and caricatured. It's not about her lacking likeability. You don't need likeability to make a good film. There's several films that don't do that, but are good. Anything in the Tarantino catalog for instance. The problem is in the film's disregard for reality-based human interaction and behavior. Marla was tied to a chair in the desert and her response to that was nothing but quips and smart aleckness. She shows no vulnerability at any point. Rosamund Pike's face doesn't move even when she's in water.. You may get away with showing invulnerability if you're like the 3rd henchman in a B crime movie. As the main character, you're just not doing your job. You say it's good they gave her no backstory or "why" because it would humanize her...no that would just make her like a 3 dimensional character...I mean the Hallmark movies you review have that. It's just elements of a good story.

[@AndSoWeLaughed]

You’re right. I hate comparisons but you know which movie lists itself as comedy thriller and was a commentary on capitalism... parasite. It’s lacking. That’s just it. Also it’s so frustrating that white women can feel so fucking entitled (but maybe this was the movies point?) that they think they can just jump into organised crime like it’s that easy. Like what’s her name from good girls, she pissed me off too, but I did enjoy the series! Same thing. Used her white feminists to get away with crimes because she thought it may be fun lol. I do NOT think she was written well. I can see how people might think that, for sure, especially with the great acting choices. But i didn’t particularly like how she was written. But also, am I proving the point the movie is making, I dunno!

[@AndSoWeLaughed]

I think the non moving was a character decision though... that’s she was cold and heartless, almost like a robot and indeed acted that way. And in that way I can see it being a satire.

[@myaco6430]

Hmmm...I wouldn’t use Tarantino as an example. He frequently uses the morally ambiguous anti hero in his movies for protagonist. That’s different than having an unlikeable protagonist. And the movie isn’t perfect, but it wasn’t as bad as people made it out to be. And yea, I do think that giving her a backstory would make her a more dimensional character, but I think kennie’s point was that people were saying a lack of back story made her a villain....she’s supposed to be the villain. She’s not supposed to be humanized in that way. But I can see how the writing or directing maybe missed the mark they were trying to hit. Again, the movie definitely has its criticisms, but it wasn’t as terrible as people made it seem. That’s just me.

[@mewmew6158]

@@AndSoWeLaughed Beth and her family especially make me shout at my tv (I'm only on season 1). They're privilege is so blatantly in my face and they're clearly so unaware that it's upsetting to see.

[@alysiavanbeverhoudt6514]

yessss thank you. omg this is what I wanted to say but you said it better. like it just wasnt a good film...

[@ritzcrayons5849]

Omg I know this isn't what we're supposed to be talking about but when you put the glitter on I DIED. It's so good, I had my doubts about the look but you really pulled it together with that glitter.

[@ChiliCrisp88]

This series is the number one thing I look forward to every week. Gives me that same feeling of waiting to read my favorite webtoon lol

[@MsBlackDiamond88]

Sis, your natural lashes!!!! 😍😩 “I want to put on lashes but I’m lazy”.. You don’t even need them

[@jasatay91]

You aint even know you helping me with this Critical Whiteness Studies presentation I gotta do

[@lalaf.2828]

I believe that if you grew up having read/saw death note, the message that this movie was trying to portray would've been easily understood.

[@itbri6835]

I thought he was short to show that he was less intimidating and scary, like in the movie the main character, the mob boss, and the old lady were the most dangerous people but they seemed the least scary like dont judge a book by its cover

[@adri9795]

DECENT MOVIES AND A DRAGGGG KENNIEEEE

[@Dinomater_]

I haven't seen the movie, but it was very interesting to hear you talk about topics like these