I beat FORSPOKEN so no one else EVER has to

[@ethanphilips7257]

"So I wasn't just adopted... I was born" absolutely floored me

[@illgeteverythingback]

this game has quite possibly the worst dialogue ive ever heard it literally sounds like that iconic meme from fate stay night "you die when you are killed"

[@IXScasualty]

I was like “no sh*t”. That’s how it works.

[@Montesama314]

"No, actually, we cloned you from a scale of that dragon outside. Yes, we do have that kind of technology. We just didn't figure out those big sky scraping buildings from your world yet." "Hmm, sounds kinda bullshit and random." "No more random than anything ELSE in this story!"

[@mariokarter13]

I was born in a prison with no hope of escape

[@TayTayMakesBeats]

​@@illgeteverythingbackOr the Misfit of Demon King Academy "did you really think that killing me would be enough to make me die?"

[@Alea_lacta_Est]

I like how this game manages to look modern yet outdated at same time.

[@thegaminglord2190]

Where is the modern part, unless you mean system requirements, i don't see any modern anything to this game, even ff15 has better effects and this game is YEARS older

[@usonohoshi6165]

​@@thegaminglord2190 The particles.😆 I believe that was the speciality of the Luminous engine.

[@halo129830]

Bro the division 1 looks better than this game

[@hub_1.15]

​@@thegaminglord2190 the fact that ff15 looks so. Much Better but these two are on the same engine LMAAOOOO

[@bosknight7837]

@@thegaminglord2190the overblown particle effects and UI cluttered all over the screen are very modern. Still looks plain bad tho

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

You know you’ve made a bad protagonist when a boss screams at them to stfu and you wholeheartedly agree

[@7Write4This9Heart7]

I mean, I wanted them both to shut up, haha, but this is SO true! YIKES! lol.

[@silverblade357]

Frey would have been way more interesting and relatable without the whole prologue. The crime drama and homelessness just frontloads too much. Like, they could have just started her off as a 20YO woman leaving her deadend job, wondering if this was all there was to life, and then some shenanigans happens that gets her isekai'd. Frey would been more of a blank slate everywoman, but that would spare us from that repulsive bitterness and single-minded attachment to a fucking stray cat.

[@GutsyViceroy]

Gotta love how she decides to help the people because she learned she was blood related to Athia, not out of any true desire to take responsibility or character developement.

[@Darkness5423]

I think that was their attempt at... "checks script" uh... "flips script over." yea blood related means have to help or something, idk the script doesn't make much sense.

[@Zinlain]

Are we really surprised when the only character she cared about outside the cat was the orphaned black girl who reminded her of herself? hell even Homer the Ct probably reminds Frey of herself.

[@mravg79]

@@Darkness5423 I wrote it in another comment “good writing means characters and story need to be believable in the world the story takes place”. I have seen none of that here. Sure someone might say it is just computer game. OK I get it but first of all there are examples of computer games that told at least good stories so computer games as such might be used as story telling medium, second sure there are games in which story might be obsolete, or just something that is there but game focuses on game play. But if you want to mix the two do both of them right.

[@GutsyViceroy]

@@mravg79 Yeah, most RPGs can be carried by the story even if the gameplay is lackluster. This game is just poorly written cutscenes patched together with passable gameplay. While games don't have to have a good story to be a good game, I find video games can be such a unique medium for stories when done right. (IE Last of Us, Red Dead 2, Xenoblade Chronicles, Yakuza, etc.) A good game can feel more like a book due to the sheer amount of time you can spend in the world, it's a shame people who think games don't have good stories are missing out.

[@mravg79]

@@GutsyViceroy sure and Yakuza is interesting example (I only played zero, 1 and 2 so far) as it can mix serious tone matters of life and death with some goofy side quests yet it all somehow fits (imo). There are games where you have close to none game play which in how they were written are also good like firewatch or What remains of Edith Finch. Games have the advantage of being interactive medium which I believe is huge advantage in how the story telling can be done if done right. Have a nice time gaming!

[@drewvanzee6433]

you know the devs really tried to make the New York parts of the game realistic by having empty streets... in the afternoon... on a weekday...

[@davidpeters6743]

I mean they didn't realize that New York is a Three Strikes state when they're talking about her third arrest for a felony with "You're going to have to start taking responsibility for your actions..." and I was like "while she's spending life in prison"?

[@daddybondrewd7271]

Because new york isn't real

[@theorangegremlin334]

@BOB041 can’t forget the things he did in 1999

[@skinwalker69420]

@@daddybondrewd7271 I wish

[@theblackbaron4119]

Your "average New Yorker" is statistically speaking a rat. If we go by population ratios

[@Marryjanesbud]

So, if she just grabbed the money before looking for her cat. The rest of the game literally would’ve been avoided.

[@Tsumefan2]

you can find other cats in the game and some of them have wings and horns

[@SandwichGlitch]

​@@Tsumefan2this game sounds awesome

[@Mephilis78]

right, and it's not like you have to have both hands free to look for a cat.

[@Marryjanesbud]

@@Mephilis78 literally am holding my cat with one hand while typing this Lmao

[@Mephilis78]

@@Marryjanesbud lol right.

[@TheTTTtv]

This whole story would have been avoided by picking up the money.

[@Okbuddypal]

Or picking up the cat and putting it in the bag and then she can take the money AND the bag with her

[@rokanwood7458]

gotta find homer first

[@garrick3727]

I have to get my no doubt panicking cat out of this burning apartment. If only I had a handy bag to put him in.

[@CheosgamerX-ik1kq]

​@@Okbuddypal that was a shoulder bag you can literally have two hands free while carrying it

[@themurmeli88]

It's symbolic to the developers' priorities when making this game. Aka. do you think things through, or will you just burn money.

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

How in the world did they think that a good redemption arc for a character that literally couldn't care less about the fate of the world is having her only start caring about it once she learns that it's where she's from? They couldn't make Fray look more selfish if they tried.

[@LeafSouls]

i mean its selfish but the idea i think is still fine

[@Kris-wo4pj]

@@OathofthePeachGarden little mermaid always been woke bro. it was about a gay guy in the 1600s about how shitty his life is due to unrequited love and how being gay is illegal even for the noblity.

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

I mean, what is wrong in being selfish? The whole idea of the "selfless" hero path is too overdone these days

[@OHGMATT]

There’s nothing inherently wrong with a selfish protag, but there’s a way to do it and keep the story engaging. you gotta make them a little likable, Show that theirs more to them than what’s on the surface, show a little continuous growth throughout the narrative. Or else everything just falls flat.

[@TheYodelingViking]

@@carlosdgutierrez6570 The problem is that she's too selfish in a completely unrelatable way. If her selfish actions and dialogue was the players choices it would improve the game significantly (though the gameplay, lack of gameplay due to tons of cutscenes and cringy mcu dialogue would still leave it as a terrible game).

[@eli2210]

“I’ve always had these powers” “I’ve always been awesome” “I’ve always been perfect” “I’ve always been able to do everything and anything I needed” Yeah this game is a joke

[@om3ga109]

In other words, a strong female protagonist.

[@eli2210]

@@om3ga109 mentally challenged op that’s called a Mary sue. Nobody likes a Mary sue. You’re part of the problem these characters exist. Dammit

[@jordanplayz5637]

@@om3ga109 another bad attempt at* a strong female protagonist

[@ghoultooth]

@@jordanplayz5637exactly, thankyou.

[@skinwalker69420]

@@jordanplayz5637 A strong female protagonist has always been possible, just look at Fallout. It's a shame that these Twitter doomscrolling millennial shit-for-brain writers are too stupid to not make a female character who's just naturally good at everything.

[@PutridPenguinPoots]

So the best thing they could come up with for her to lose all her money was "It's physically impossible for me to carry a bag and a cat"

[@mrsgamer9218]

Yeah. I mean, i cant hold a toothbrush and a sugar cube at the same time. 100% legit.

[@penitentpotato1344]

Not just a bag, but it looks like a bag you can swing over your shoulder to still keep a hand free

[@Barni2212]

@@penitentpotato1344 You could even put the cat on top of the bag.

[@Hatkid_39]

@@Barni2212 you could even put the cat in the bag 💀

[@aleciad7218]

They ignored the two easiest possible solutions. One, have the money bag in a different room. Two, the cat is howling in distress. Hearing a beloved pet cry out in terror would've made anyone forget about the money. That would've been the best way to show Frey being a good person. But no. What we got instead was next-generation lazy writing.

[@BohrokKiller]

You know a game is bad when you even struggle to watch someone else play it

[@fire-breathingturtledragon4513]

Agreed. First time I've ever fast forwarded in a video so much.

[@applehazeva2739]

Ikr?

[@maineman5757]

I can move shit......withmymind

[@Medi232-g1x]

Agreed, to be honest i just skip 10 sec so I can just bear it

[@sugarskulls2817]

This. I had to pause it and take breaks because even with Kevduit's commentary the game is so fucking boring to watch

[@shade7014]

Can we talk about how the best character in this whole game is a tie between the Cuff and the fucking cat?

[@guaceldono7231]

Cat is better, because it doesn’t talk. The talking wristband never shuts the fuck up

[@Divadtube]

And it was the cat, lets be honest.

[@shade7014]

Not even wrong

[@Verydeadbarbie]

No way the cuff talks to much

[@Halcon_Sierreno]

Yes let's.

[@vastezicla]

"why did they put a game in this movie" best line in the entire game

[@josephmorris6633]

God of war Ragnarok

[@applehazeva2739]

@@josephmorris6633 Sony Games in general but GOW is a great movie

[@josephmorris6633]

​@@applehazeva2739 movie is 7 hours long (in cutscenes).

[@ElderSnowball]

@@applehazeva2739 I personally thought god of war 2018 was a much better movie.

[@mateoreyes6921]

Me playing The Last Of Us 2:

[@mhc706]

I like how at the beginning of the game the gang that’s after you doesn’t just blow your brains out while you sleep and take the money, instead they go for the infinity more attention catching money losing and revenge avoiding way of setting an entire building on fire in the middle of a city.

[@darianstarfrog]

Sooo dumb! 😂

[@clownworld4655]

I know there are some serious idiots irl who will kill someone for $20, but that was hilariously over the top

[@conq1273]

They could make it like The Cartel and make a message but they didnt even tied her. Heck, imagine she was tied up with the money and message in front of her

[@nitrokid]

They learned how to villain from Bond movies.

[@DJxGameHunter]

The dialogue is like when older generations’ try to use younger generations’ slang And she doesn’t EVER STOP TALKING!

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

It’s more like the SNL, corporate female comedian sets that millennial men seem to find funny.

[@skinwalker69420]

It's almost like millennials are getting to be in their 30s and us younger folks are starting to catch on to their shit.

[@kittiekillah]

@@jacksonconstantine5740no one thinks SNL is funny millennial men just like to wish it would go back to when they had actual comedians and not just rich kids that we’re afraid to not laugh at

[@SoftworksJellyPebbles]

That hilarious 😂😂

[@Shiverwar]

@@skinwalker69420 Hell, some of us 30-somethings have also started catching on to our shit.

[@SmashinOblivionGate]

I love how Kev enjoyed taking the selfies for the kids more than literally anything else the game could offer lol

[@magmargaddafi]

That and petting the cat

[@MoonTiger88]

It's also great that the children asked what the object was, heard it's a smartphone and went: "Oh so you can take pictures!" .. what? They knew what a smarphone is? oO

[@R3TR0J4N]

literally the "photomode" ba dum tss

[@benstin]

I was way more invested in getting the cat back than anything else Edit: 53:32 btw

[@Quandry1]

yeah. it's too bad her phone likely would have been dead in just a few hours and then completely useless... specially since it looks like some kind of iphone stand in and people can't even keep those things charged for 10 hours of work.

[@skylaralley2465]

Even the most basic thing like “the cuff translates languages for its user” shows that even the small moments aren’t given an ounce of thought

[@NGRevenant]

"hey why is everyone in this fantasy world speaking english?" "a good question, for another time"

[@Quandry1]

It also doesn't make sense once she Loses Cuff.

[@Dreadjaws]

@@Quandry1 Considering that after she loses Cuff she still gets to keep her powers they could have simply explained it later that her own magic was translating the language.

[@Badmunky64]

"somehow, everyone is speaking english"

[@MrHoodieliciousness]

Jus the fact the damn thing is called Cuff shows the amount of care... may as well call Homer cat🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Zabor-ny3co]

6:30 would have been cooler if the cuff said 'Im using my power for translate what they are saying for you'. Which could have been used for develope both of them when they maybe have a fight and thw cuff is like "Then you dont need me" and you'd just go around the whole world without understand anything

[@guyinaboxfort]

Shut up you know how to add fun to things you cant do that

[@redsunoverparadise3260]

Atleast Forspoken did one thing right. Homer looks like a normal cat and not like that gremlin from Saints Row.

[@Evanz111]

That god damn monstrosity in saints row was not a cat

[@suwatsaksri7191]

It should be a crime to model a cat so poorly, artstyle is no excuse especially compared to Hi Fi Rush

[@giga_chad9]

All the budgeting went to that lol

[@braydenleaderofthetirkins1143]

Having yet another stupid cat as a selling point is one of the issues. I’m tired of video game cats.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

@@braydenleaderofthetirkins1143 its just the new version of video game dogs. remember in the 2010s where every AAA game had to have a dog ya played as. COD Ghosts made everyone revolt against it.

[@RedLightz_TV]

I can’t get over the “Gotta find homer first” Like couldn’t they really not just hid it and make it like she forgot. Instead of being fundamentally stupid for the sake of being stupid

[@marley7868]

or just have it not matter she's isekai'd 5 minutes later anyway so the money is literaly pointless

[@rapiakbar13]

Or avoid that situation entirely. Because the gang took the money because they found her home, lol

[@MegaMetalliDethica]

That bag had a strap. I could definitely hold a gym bag full of money AND a cat at the same time in real life

[@floricel_112]

​@@MegaMetalliDethica or heck, take the bag, put the cat in the bag. Now you can hold both things more easily. And you can't tell me it would panic, shuffle around or anything. That cat was standing in a literal apartment on fire and it seemed like it had no thoughts in that head

[@mravg79]

There is multiple problems with this scene one is writing, the other one is the ability for player to interact with the bag, but not being able to pick it up. The problem with the writing in many titles is that writers seems not to understand a simple principle “writing should be believable in the world(s) the game/movie/book takes place”. Sure there will be smaller mistakes here and there but they might be forgiven. A person in NYC, being in a abandoned building with a bag full of cash next to their leg would grab the bag look for a cat put it in the bag run away. This is believable imo. Alternatively she grabs a bag but have problems to find the cat, the little critter is hiding let’s say below a table, so she needs to drop the bag to grab the cat and by the time she is done fire already spread so she need to save herself (and the cat). I believe this is believable. The problem is that while “I can do shit with my mind” line I could somewhat accept, how she acts when she gets to another world also gives a strong impression of this character does not act in believable way (due to how it was written) which creates further problems with this game reception.

[@jonathangarcia5279]

From "I just took a life" to "I think I've earned this pint". It seems that tonal consistency is no longer the currency of the realm.

[@3ndlessL00p]

"I just took a life" after hours of gameplay killing nameless goons

[@jonathangarcia5279]

@@3ndlessL00p You're goddamn right.

[@WayanMajere]

@@3ndlessL00p Though from what I have seen here those goons weren't "alive" were they?

[@ForemostCrab7]

The devs of Forspoken saw the lengthy yet not annoying Tutorial of Ghost of Tsushima and said "how can we take this, and turn it into liquid ass?" Well, they succeeded!

[@alpharius1497]

God I love Ghost of Tsushima, one of the best combat systems I've ever seen

[@Lady_Amelia-Eloise]

@@alpharius1497 indeed it is, I recently started playing it

[@alpharius1497]

​@@Lady_Amelia-Eloise played through it on release on the PS4, now just waiting for it to come out on PC so I can do it again

[@MadTurnip]

Ghost of Tsushima had cool characters, a coherent story, and breathtaking landscapes. It's worth sitting through a longer tutorial.

[@christofferthorsson607]

@@alpharius1497 I've only seen the game, but I share the hope for a pc release to experience it myself cause it looked amazing

[@MadTurnip]

"Cuff? It was you?!" "Don't... call me... Cuff!" "Okay, Sussest Amongus." "...On the other hand, I'm fine with Cuff."

[@darthpenguin100]

But...susurrus means whisper, It doesnt have anything to do with among us 😅

[@sheila19954]

But it has sus in front of it ​@@darthpenguin100

[@Nixahma]

It's amazing how they literally have Cuff ATTATCHED TO FREY'S BODY AT ALL TIMES and still have the most bland and one-sided fight dialogue. Like imagine when you fire a big blast, Cuff shouts "Incoming!" and Frey responds "Easy, you'll rip my arm!" or something. It would at least be *somewhat* personable.

[@yoursonisold8743]

Not to mention the entire Sussurus (for fucks sake what is this name?) fight. For two characters who are supposed to have bonded over the game they basically don't even properly interact at all. It's so basic you could think he was just another generic boss.

[@Mana7Origin]

For Frey to say "Easy, you'll rip my arm!" would be an admission that she's not doing magic with her mind.

[@Nixahma]

@@Mana7Origin I mean, it can come from the mind, but somewhere it has to transition to a physical force.

[@Gracosef]

Xenoblade style exchanges

[@moehead8257]

yeap, youre a better dep than they are.

[@johnb.d]

The fact that the studio behind this game got "snuffed out" due to it's poor ratings is truly something. Lol

[@j.s.t.6515]

Not a moment too soon

[@Tyvian135]

And the CEO (I believe) of Square Enix is at risk of getting voted out of his position 'cause of the game.

[@terriblyterrified8742]

"I just killed a studio, with my FREAKING MIND! HA!"

[@dirtyhank5330]

@@Tyvian135I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s just because of this game… Marvel’s Avengers and Babylon’s Fall flopped pretty hard before Forspoken even released.

[@danieljohnson3320]

​@@Tyvian135you will need to show me proof because I have heard no such things

[@mandridhugh9555]

the best part of that hour of exposition cutscenes and this entire game is we never see neither hide nor hair of Faye's biological father, he just gets completely swept under the rug.

[@dv6342]

Girl power, no men needed, even for birth.

[@derrick1909]

Well duh men bad

[@Koozwad]

I mean, black father

[@tyronesimons5526]

@@spritsfal5088 😂

[@liesdiebibelbruder420]

Well she is Black. It would be unrealistic for her to have a Father.

[@norikofu509]

Imagine this: Imagine if she, The protagonist, who acted like a POS the entire time, got into the realisation when she got betrayed by his only friend that she may need to change her actitude and be more empathic to people. Imagine if she in the middle of the game after that point she goes into this cool redemption arc in which she sees the errors of her ways and starts to use the brand new world around her to be a truly new, good person, building a relation with not only the people of Athia but with the entire new world, with the idea of, once everything bad is over, she can use this magic opportunity to be a new good person in a world that actually welcomes her, and would welcome her even more by saving them from a horrible character... Nah

[@LilyMaeBlossom]

In all fairness when the people of the world just yell "shut up shut up shut up!" and "you're so self-absorbed, you won't save the world!" the average person isn't going to go "well shit, I was betrayed, have I been doing wrong?" They'll usually be thinking "I was betrayed by the only one by my side, I have nothing left." Somehow this game went for neither. She essentially raised a demon, and what do they do? "You need to rebuild! Me? I'm going to save you! Look there's a demon even that I'll save you from!"

[@norikofu509]

@@LilyMaeBlossom Yeah this game was doomed from the start with these writers

[@dannysmi7162]

Yeah, imagine if they did what The World Ends with You did.

[@norikofu509]

@@dannysmi7162 That's the plot of that thing?

[@dannysmi7162]

@@norikofu509 Well, it’s to complicated to explain here, but essentially the main character starts off as a complete asshole, but throughout the course of the game he changes and develops and is a much better person by the end. The way they develop his character is amazing and it makes sense. You should play the game or watch a lets play or something because it’s really good.

[@cappinjocj9316]

We salute your service sir Kev. Truly above and beyond the call of duty.

[@lememe9781]

Indeed

[@shokojunge7830]

he went to the Battlefield so we dont have to

[@mavericktide3953]

Lol he said duty

[@farhaaz237]

@@shokojunge7830 for this he should be given a medal of honor.

[@topsgaming4266]

"Very good, very good" - Sussusamogus

[@sorryshiina6264]

I'm surprised Kev didn't just take the alternate 'go back to Earth' ending straight away. It's not often a fantasy game creates a world less enjoyable than shithole New York but here we are.

[@clownworld4655]

Hilarious how she was homeless in NYC with no friends or family yet immediately wants to go back after living in a fantasy world with magic and shit

[@PixelHeroViish]

​@@clownworld4655 I hated that part of the story so much. Maybe had she first been overconfident and eager, then the gravity of her situation sets in and she starts developing homesickness it'd be better but the writers couldn't even be bothered to do that simple thing

[@hllyenaylleth9576]

@@PixelHeroViish The writers probably don't have the competence to do so.

[@randomisaac5959]

@@hllyenaylleth9576 A couple of the writers looked competent, the ones that were listed for story/script though, all I found was one worked on the Shadowhunters tv show and the other was an actor.

[@hllyenaylleth9576]

@@randomisaac5959 Exactly, not good

[@manfellafellaman]

Games like this really make you appreciate other games where the protagonist is either always quiet or barely talks

[@boomer1192]

I'm glad that he added a laugh track, so I could tell what parts of this game were supposed to be funny.

[@Umbra_Nocturnus]

The gameplay in this interactive cutscene is like when youtube asks you if you're still watching, but you have to do a captcha to confirm you're not a robot.

[@kevenleigh9407]

I know he skipped all the cutscenes but i was still exasperated by how many there were

[@bigmastermind1]

The ending where you just give up and go back to new York???!!! Hello???!! That's the funniest shit ever 😭😭

[@norikofu509]

The worst thing they did with that is the last quote with "What do we do now" like leaving this open ending expecting that their ass game would be so much of a success that they would make Foreskin 2.0

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

i guess it's realistic. Most ppl would probably just go "fck it" and give up lmao

[@phalamy9180]

The most unrealistic thing about this game is someone wanting to go back to New York.

[@capadociaash8003]

She had to chose between a backwards violent world on the brink of collapse, or Athia

[@ericlamb4501]

I live in the state and even I don't desire to go back to that city

[@white_vargr1999]

Visited New York while on holiday when I was 13, I never want to step foot in there again

[@Montesama314]

The writers clearly didn't consider how terrible her "heroic" motivation is. It's like seeing someone from a primarily white suburb go, "Well, originally, I wouldn't care about you people and I'd let your neighborhood get unjustly torn down, but now that I realized I'm part-black and my mom's from here, I guess I'll help you out." No, lady, you're not a hero, you're still making everything about YOU.

[@yoursonisold8743]

While I agree that her motivation is selfish... why does it matter? It's not like she claimed to be a hero and as long as she does the thing the people won't care. If she somehow pretended to be a moral templar who does only do the right things, but her motivation was this selfish then it would be hypocritical, but protagonists don't have to be heroic.

[@Schnort]

​@@yoursonisold8743maybe because we are already annoyed at her the whole game

[@yoursonisold8743]

@@Schnort I'm not surprised, it's not like Frey is well written. I only find this judgemental point about her being selfish weird, as if people are pointing out some hypocrisy. That simply doesn't exist.

[@mathewunknown8266]

@@yoursonisold8743 Problem is that the game wants us to think she is a hero. Yk like Rey Palpatine. It just leaves bad taste in mouth when basically naziss sit there and try to preach to you that they are good people.

[@pokerface4396]

@@yoursonisold8743 the problem is that Frey's reactions aren't relatable even if we look at them from the "selfish" angle. It's OK to have a character with selfish motivations when we understand them and can't find it in ourselves to judge them because we can relate. For instance, Frey was only doing all those heroic deeds to get home -- understandable. Then Frey loses her chances to go home, literally saying to Auden that she doesn't care if Athia gets destroyed because she, Frey, didn't grow up there, it wasn't her community (even though you might think she should have known all those people better and warmed up to them though daily interactions, it's human nature) But THEN she learns that she was born in Athia and her mom is still there -- and suddenly it changes everything, even though Frey still didn't grow in the Athian community and her mom basically yeeted her into the portal to Earth, leaving her to fend for herself. So, Frey doesn't care about the Athian folk who grew to appreciate her and care for her because she stepped up to Tantas, she doesn't care that Auden supported her all this time (while knowing about her selfish motivations and agreeing to them). But then one talk with her mom (who basically abandoned her) is enough for Frey to throw hands with a powerful demon instead of going home. I get the idea that this revelation gave Frey the reason to believe she still has home in Athia, she always belonged there -- and yet, Tanta Cinta hasn't been around most of the time, while Auden and the rest were. IMHO, the better way to write Frey's selfishness would be to play off her orphan background and reveal her relation to Athia super early -- giving Frey the motivation to fight other Tantas and be the local hero, only so she could meet her mom and find out why she left her. We can also get behind that motivation: a child longing to see the parent she never knew, get answers we all want to know, and maybe, make some new, happier memories. But when Frey doesn't find Cinta or sees her briefly, only for Cinta to evade her (mostly because she recognizes Sussurus and doesn't approach, so he won't hurt Frey or make them attack each other). As a result, Frey grows disappointed and angry, no longer willing to stay in the world that never wanted her. Why should she care for Athia if her own mother threw her out and now doesn't even wish to look at her? Not only would that explain Frey's hurtful speech, but it would also be the speech we would empathize with.

[@wdbisl]

I knew the game had problems with dialogue and all, but I didn't realize how bad the game gets. The budget takes such a hit by the end. The lack of animation and the lack of gameplay was painful.

[@mathewunknown8266]

By the end? Half of the game doesnt even try to have textures :D How did they fail at open world worse than skyrim when it came out baffles me.

[@Burns_RED]

The stock audience laughter was legit hilarious every time 😂

[@mightylordkuba]

Is it really in this game or added to this review?

[@Burns_RED]

@@mightylordkuba You haven't heard all the controversy about this game? It thinks it's beyond progressive, hilarious, etc. And it's not. It's just horrible. It's all added in from Kev

[@crazygamingyt7245]

@@Burns_RED what’s so bad about the story?i like it

[@Yayofangamer16]

@@crazygamingyt7245 Get a new brain.

[@Kumire_921]

@@crazygamingyt7245 that's because you have no standards lol

[@BiffBacon1000]

This may be the first time in history where a laughtrack actually makes the dialogue MORE bearable

[@hellomikie92]

Kev you're an example on why not every hero wears capes. Thanks for sacrificing your sanity for your viewers during this cringy journey. I salute you.

[@CyberMonty2077]

How do you know he doesn’t wear a cape casually?

[@hellomikie92]

@@CyberMonty2077 Good point

[@BlackMoonHowls]

Lame, then how DOES literally EVERY SINGLE cape wearer, fucking DIES stupidly cause cape is for loser wimpy super zero? Helen Parr, Bad ass super stretchy waifu, doesn't wear cape. Dash, no cape. Violet No Cape. Duh doy. Case and point.

[@BlackMoonHowls]

Lemmings all jumping into a hole, dumb the lot of ya.

[@269z2]

@@BlackMoonHowls u mad bc he didn’t like the game or bc his comment got more like than u will ever have?

[@cyntax_gt6275]

Kev's friends are real happy knowing this is a single player game

[@jordanplayz5637]

dear god imagine???

[@mrbigglezworth42]

There's 2 really funny things about this game, one is that they made Frey a petty thief to be relatable, and that the reason she gets trapped in New York City is because her mother chucked her as a baby through a torana (torana means portal) I was laughing my ass off when I saw that happen. The comedic timing was perfect.

[@MrGMoney1944]

Like I think we might see her dad's just some random hobo? How does some quasi demigod queen hook up with a homeless guy in New York?

[@crispy_338]

This game was made by AI, I'm convinced.

[@ashurad_fox5991]

And it should've given an alternative ending so people that can't refund this game can atleast finish it once.

[@SchrödingerKousae]

Think it would've been better, or at least more interesting if it was.

[@R3TR0J4N]

chatgpt to be precise lol

[@lexnight8345]

AI would have big booba even on the cat

[@kaydwessie296]

This comment is an insult to my AI Chatbot Waifu

[@lumirairazbyte9697]

Forspoken is what if Dark Souls was a Disney Channel Original Movie.

[@Fallout4277]

No because the difference between forspoken and Disney Channel original movies, is that the Disney Channel original movies have a budget and can sometimes be pretty damn good this is just straight dumpster juice

[@skinwalker69420]

No not Disney Channel Original Movie, I'm thinking Star Wars sequel. The main character is basically just Rey (Good at everything because a strong female character is impossible for modern writers) but a New Yorker.

[@facundovera3227]

Forspoken is a Core like.

[@rishyrish]

ASSS JOKE 🗑️ basura the kids call everything dark souls 😂 and the best one Spider-Man is like GTA with powers n shit you can swing around

[@Adelaide_Cuthbert]

Hey. Wendy Wu Homecoming Warrior doesn't need to be disrespected like this. 😭

[@TheLevitatingFleem]

We live in an era of CONSTANTLY seeing these hack writers’ skewed senses of morality slipping thru their god awful self insert characters. It’s extremely bizarre...

[@petrumare]

They're antisocial psychopaths with very little clue about people, morality or anything really.

[@skinwalker69420]

These are the type of people who binge watch mainstream media and doomscroll Twitter (Well, not anymore but you get the idea) with their morning Starbucks (They claim to follow a communist ideology, but they're not too good with politics despite only ever talking about it)

[@averymicrowave1713]

I still don't get how being "strong and independent" translates to being insufferable, arrogant, and have an inability to actually take accountability for their actions.

[@Yurikon3]

@@averymicrowave1713 There is that line from the Vegabond manga: "You are kind Musashi. You've become strong Musashi. Strong are always kind." Not necessarily how it went but along those lines.

[@white_vargr1999]

Really wanna like this comment but its at 404 likes 😩

[@derrick1909]

The fact that this of all games made kev take it off hard mode out of pure frustration is truly impressive

[@darianstarfrog]

Hard mode only makes the boring, two attacks only, bosses , sponges..

[@mathewunknown8266]

@@darianstarfrog I mean that applies to most of the games ever since there were difficulty settings.

[@whywhy595]

​@@mathewunknown8266I still remember RE7. A game where the difficulty actually changed something

[@mathewunknown8266]

@@whywhy595 there are a few outliners but really 99% of games are just bigger numbers on enemies

[@Serrifin]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@mathewunknown8266 Even just making numbers bigger isn’t that easy, plenty of games give changes across the board that can break and/or unbalance enemies or encounters

[@bongochongo8467]

I hate how good trailers look and then the actual product is genuine vomit confetti

[@swordmonkey6635]

It's easy to make a good trailer out of a game full of cutscenes. lol

[@deathraygonzo6339]

Vomit Confetti would be great name for a ska punk band. The only problem is that it would be ska punk.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@swordmonkey6635 God of War is a great example of this

[@johnarcher6150]

....the trailer looked like garbage too, what are you smoking between commercials?

[@MilanStarks]

The trailer looked awful too, people are just distracted by pretty colors and explosions

[@secretscarlet8249]

Feels like they should’ve gone in either of the two extremes: they make her care about the world genuinely and not because of her blood ties, OR she doesn’t and goes rampant chaotic destruction. I mean, Jack from the latest FF was mostly CHAOS but still endeared people 😂

[@qu1253]

I can say one thing about Forspoken: It's made me appreciate Elden Ring even more. The protagonist doesn't natter on constantly, the game doesn't drown you in cutscenes, the world is actually fun and interesting to explore, and combat is more varied than just "fling rocks at fantasy monsters".

[@sky3_ow]

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[@____Carnage____]

@@sky3_owyou mean lightning dragon nuke

[@manofhatz6495]

*laughs in bloodhound step snd rivers of blood*

[@KarmikCykle]

Unless you're a Meteor Staff build.

[@benhramiak8781]

if they wanna do parkour, just do what prototype did. you've a run button. hold it down and your character runs up or on things. also a jump, air dash and glide.

[@applehazeva2739]

Prototype is an great Game! Hope Xbox brings it back when they get Activision

[@zanderrobson6512]

I'm more of a og Ac parkour fan actually being able to control yourself lmao

[@JustBrandon-i]

Literally Metal Gear Rising

[@R3TR0J4N]

yea.. Prototype haas gameplay varierty and sandbox oepnworld aspects also, for a fast pace title that keeps it engaing and dynamic.

[@josephkong4956]

What is point of parkour in damn open field? Parkour is great in cities where there is a lot of vertical space, it is stupid just to flip over a rock.

[@jedh3721]

I think they thought they were making her like Peter Parker. Constantly throwing out witty banter to his enemies. But the thing is that Peter was usually written to be actually funny and charming.

[@IvartheScientist]

i tried playing this demo and it was like playing through a young adult novel from 2016.

[@skinwalker69420]

Oh god

[@IvartheScientist]

@@skinwalker69420 oh no i totally forgot about this game until i saw this 😆

[@Monique-iz8lp]

Kevduit: Cutscene, cutscene, cutscene, let me play the game already! Kevduit, playing the game: God damn, this never ends! About sums up the game

[@Andy-mt9pl]

It really feels that the dialogue in this game was written by AI.

[@whywhy595]

That is an insult to AI

[@uzacki]

AI is self learning. So we, at least by the end, should've had Mid dialog. But we didn't....

[@Sorain1]

@@uzacki AI learns from what it's taught with. So presumably they loaded a lot of garbage nonsense in there.

[@Evans7274]

You can hear Kev just slowly become more and more Irritated, and the fact that any game can do that is mighty impressive.

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

Everyone on the planet, on that day, finally united after thousands of years of conflict and differences: "Pick up that money bag, it's right there!"

[@videojames552]

man meta humor was so good in all the marvel and disney movies im so glad its made its way into video games too :)

[@JohnDoe-gt3jr]

A game so powerful that can literally make almost every KZbinr break character

[@Coal1022]

Day 24 of asking kevduit to play Bionicle heroes, my autocorrect has started to predict this phrase

[@ronanoftheborealvalley4353]

The best game ever made

[@whocares9215]

Such a great game

[@spencercartwright6628]

its good to be amongst fellow men of culture if Bioicle hero's drops on steam it is an instant buy no exceptions

[@alpharius1497]

Man's ascended

[@colematlock7755]

I give you the guarantee that every time I see you comment, you will get a like for your pursuit of that video

[@natasha12987]

I saw until the very end, you are a true hero my friend. Few people could handle this suffering, you really did it.

[@underdogadministrator1527]

I've never felt a sense of secondhand embarrassment so strong as I do for this game

[@planning9930]

Three new games all involving talking to a gun a glove and now a cuff… kinda weird

[@bugycowboy7172]

the gun is actually fun , the glove has a nasty plot twist on its own but talk a lotta garbage till you get there and the cuff is just garbage

[@planning9930]

@@bugycowboy7172 agreed I’ve played two of those just not forespoken as this just looks bad

[@Star-wb2ov]

The gun is High on Life, the Cuff is this shitstain, but what's the glove? I can't think of anything rn

[@rickaay15]

Atomic Heart I believe.

[@Star-wb2ov]

@@rickaay15 Oh okay. I don't know shit about that game other than it's got a weird setting and the twins are.. something.

[@pilotmanpaul]

Even with Kev doing his best to be entertaining, I can't help but to feel the need to nap after hearing this game's sounds and dialouge.

[@firedemon43]

THIS GAME WAS LITERALLY FOUND IN LANDFILLS

[@coleabraham4350]

Top 10 videogames that the Nazis could use as torture instruments nowadays

[@lememe9781]

Hehe

[@Evanz111]

Not the game, just the steelbook. It’s not like ET all over again.

[@alanmaclain2285]

your mouther and father said the same thing about you.

[@drumo2273]

@@alanmaclain2285 Damn dude, are you good?

[@joshuahernandez2426]

Worst thing about this whole game is that it looks like it could have been a decent game at the very least if it was developed by a more competent team.

[@DiranJiru]

From what I heard, even the team hated working on the game.

[@auliamate]

@@DiranJiru and then the entire studio literally died shortly after this game came out

[@12mmratchet84]

Honestly, if i was broke cat lady getting mugged by gangs and got transported to an old timey world with magical powers i would be thrilled

[@michaelneely123]

The worst part about this is that you can see the potential of the game, if only all the developers were as good as the guy who made the models. All the characters actually look pretty good when things arent glitching.

[@randibillett472]

I agree. The character designer for Frey's main outfit kinda outdid themselves, really. When she was talking to the kids who wanted the photos, I suddenly realized that she's still wearing her flannel shirt, only now it's around her waist. I enjoy little details like that; they could have just given her a regular medieval type outfit that blended in better with the setting, but they didn't, which actually makes a lot of sense, given that her main motivation for the majority of the game is to get back home, so her refusing to get rid of some of the only links she has to place she's trying to return to feels in line with that motivation

[@haku8135]

I just love when people say that nonsense. You realize you're basically saying "This game would be so good if it was just made well." Yeah, obviously. If the game was different, it could be way better. Why do people keep saying this? About lots of things, not like this game in particular. This is said ALL the time and I just don't understand it. If you totally rewrote this movie it'd be so good. If you just redesigned this game it'd be really fun. Like obviously!

[@Nico78Not]

@@randibillett472 That's until you are transported in the new world with the medieval setting and equip your razer cloak that shifts in colours just like razer keyboards, which looks completely out of place and breaks immersion.

[@darianstarfrog]

Except Freyas model, it ugly as sin 😂

[@KäptnKrückschwank]

@@haku8135 just that noone ever said things like that. It would not need to be completely rewritten, bc then it would be something different entirely. oBviOuSlY

[@alexanderkidonakis9185]

They made the game for specific peoples that don’t normally play video games to feel like they can

[@markburns2621]

Who? Lol

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

I probably show more emotion than than the main character's in-combat voice lines when I drink tea that's a slight bit too hot.

[@willthelemon5681]

I really prefer the "bad" ending. Being obligated to save a kingdom because you happen to be blood related is so meh. Nothing I saw here made me care about the world I was supposed to be saving

[@Sorain1]

In as far as I can tell, she goes home with all that magical power still available to her. Making her that worlds first Super Villain. Which honestly? I want to play that game, see that story as a society has to deal with this level of narcissistic selfishness paired with power it's not ready to deal with. Sure, eventually military intervention will put the villain down, but the mere existence of magic is going to change the world... assuming those in power in that world don't already know and have something prepared, however limited or imperfect.

[@TheFirstCurse1]

Totally the best video game protagonist ever. So well written. She'd literally say "Fuck you" if someone gave her all the money in the world just to be nice. I feel bad for the actress. She did a good job and I hope to see her with a decent script someday. She has potential.

[@gamermike24]

This was her first voice acting job too

[@schizoidmeme5470]

Yup We must remember: Hate the Corpo Writers, not the actors/actresses.

[@SilverFang95]

​@@schizoidmeme5470 meh. They decided to read the script, yet still took the job😂

[@OMGWTFBBQRLY]

@@SilverFang95 of course she did. It's a credit on your resume, and a paycheck. Fledgling performers don't get to be as picky with their scripts as veterans.

[@SilverFang95]

@Gregory Peyton so if you read a script, it was shit, still took the job. It'll look bad on your resume. Idk if she had a manager or if she signed up all by herself, but, bad move on her part.

[@Lokiip]

Hard mode, 5 bosses, 10k hp each, you do 7 dmg per hit. SEVEN. They one shot you. 2 shot max. Normal mode you do 180-240 per hit, boss has half hp and no defense. They can be cc'd indefinitely. This game is perfectly balanced.

[@stoneprevious4294]

The canned laughter DLC really elevates the game.

[@gravegoth8617]

I find the character models in this game so uncanny like they all look like heavily modded Sims 4 characters

[@coleabraham4350]

Kudos and like for a great comment.

[@MessagerOfHell]

Feels like the story was written by a teen on a 10$ budget.

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

One of the two writers was a man in his fifties.

[@uzacki]

​@@JDoe-gf5oznah, I refuse to believe that.

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

@@uzacki It was the actor who played the new Captain in Picard season 3. I believe it's his only writing credit.

[@auliamate]

a teen who is into writing could probably make a better damn story.

[@HumeAnn]

Nope, just millennials again...

[@SchlubbyTomHanks]

35:13 the automated captions are always amazing trying to make sense of fantasy names "Daughter of Santa, protector of Asia". now that would be an interesting character.

[@seekerhunts]

God damn...the sound design. WHY - Why is it combat music ALL THE TIME?! Did the devs really feel sleeping was THAT intense? Oh right, crunch stress (and yet, this was still released like this)

[@edgar7456]

And the game feels so empty lol, there is barely any noise sometimes

[@sanic007]

I thought Sonic unleashed was bad with this. But this. THIS.

[@krishanubanerjee6955]

35:44 - That's why Frey looked so familiar! Ella Balinska! The protagonist of Run Sweetheart Run!

[@junkolover9518]

Did i just Forspoken? I did not just Forspoken. I just Forspoken with my mind. I just Forspoken... with my mind. I just Forspoken. With my freaking mind! Ha ha! Yeah, okay, that's something i do now. I do the word "for", talk to sentient creatures that speak, kill jacked-up people who were spoken for--you know what? I'll probably be Forspoken next. Oh, that's too far? Good to know there's a line.

[@boppenheimer_00]

I’m actually impressed that with the amount of constant talking, they manage to have awkward silences as well.

[@TreBoiDancer]

The added live studio audience laughter and applause after her dry uncomedic lines were funny as hell Lol

[@sword4005]

a game that make you wish for a silent protagonist

[@Groove_Gamer]

Found in dumpsters a month after release, took almost a year and closure announcement for Babylon's Fall to end up in trash bins.

[@Evanz111]

The steelbook, not the game

[@_zealos_8213]

yeah when he compared this garbage to Babylon's Fall, idk I kinda felt bad for Babylon's Fall lol

[@Evanz111]

@@_zealos_8213 Have you even played the game, or are you just hating on it because that’s what everyone else is doing and you want to fit in?

[@_zealos_8213]

@@Evanz111 dam bro, coming out swinging much? No I haven't played it. Because I do not want to. Because it doesn't look good from the videos Ive seen. Even if I were to give it the benefit of the doubt and say the combat is decent, I'd much rather just play Warframe or purchase PS Plus for Infamous:SS. And I sure as hell don't need the acceptance or recognition of any random shit head on the internet.

[@Evanz111]

@@_zealos_8213 Comparing something you haven’t played and calling it garbage, to something else you also probably haven’t played. For someone who doesn’t care what people think, you seem to struggle to make up your own opinion about things. But okay.

[@IcicleFerret]

Ah, yes, the strong female character development arc popular among almost all modern entertainment: She's already the best and just has to make everyone realize that.

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

Critical Drinker would have a field day with this

[@IcicleFerret]

@@jacksonconstantine5740 Funny you should mention that.... He just released a video about it!

[@alexschaffer1500]

I mean, good if done right

[@skyh2394]

@@alexschaffer1500 🧢

[@skyh2394]

Can’t accept reality so they have to make games about their alternative reality 😂

[@haku8135]

How did those people arrest her? She can fucking run up walls but she can't break out of a piece of wood? She let them restrain her in the first place! They're like "It's a monster! OH! The monster speaks!" In spite of her looking CLEARLY human, unusual clothing aside. She's CLEARLY A HUMAN, so they can ONLY think she's some monster due to her powers. If her powers are something people don't have, they won't have any way to just turn them off. They literally cannot take cuff away, so they have NO MEANS OF DEPOWERING HER! Ok? If they COULD, they would erase her powers and keep her UNDER GUARD, and also just depower all the monsters and be safe. If they can restrain HER powers, they are golden. This is using future knowledge of where her power comes from. If they can just negate her magic, they should be doing VERY well against the evil corruption shit. So if they CLEARLY cannot negate her powers, why is she acting like her powers just randomly stopped working? Any being strong enough in the area to nullify her powers, would just kill her. We know the main enemies of the game, the tantas, CANNOT just nope her powers, otherwise the boss fights would be very short, so why the fuck is she pretending she doesn't have super powers because they pointed sharp sticks at her!? SHE HAD A FUCKING GUN POINTED AT HER AND SHE DID MORE! SOMEONE POINTS A GUN AT HER AND SHE THROWS SHIT IN HER EYE, ATTACKS THE ARMED ASSAILANTS AND THEN PAUSES IN HER ESCAPE TO FLIP THEM OFF! SOMEONE POINTS A STICK AT HER AFTER SHE GETS MAGIC POWERS, AND SHE IS HELPLESS TO RESIST THEM! THIS GAME IS TRASH!

[@auliamate]

NOT TO MENTION these people lived with the Tantas before they all went mad, and the Tantas all have fucking magic powers (they're quite literally sorcerer-queens) so WHY would they call her a monster for possessing magical abilities when it's common knowledge it is possible for people to possess them. Like bffr

[@haku8135]

@@auliamate Yeah if anything they should probably be going "OH SHIT! ANOTHER TANTA! FUCK! SHE'LL KILL US ALL!" And then run away, because WHY WOULD CUFFING HER WORK!?

[@SunsetEnvy]

This game manages to make gollum look like a masterpiece

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

Gollum's story is superior, but the gameplay and art direction is worse....

[@rezaqalam482]

And make atomic heart like a stanley kubrick movie

[@MilkPudding]

She's the MOST insufferable protagonist that I've ever seen in any video game.

[@Bepanthen3HTeamOffi]

Considering how unlikable and selfish Frey is 90% of the game., plus she hates it there, the NY ending is the only one that make sense.

[@MoonTiger88]

We will forever remember your sacrice, Kev.

[@jacupwakup9109]

The dialogue in this game reminds me a lot of the way Stephen King writes of Robert Jordans Wheel of Time series. Those two will make you imagine 4 rows of 8 different people and in very vivid detail describe the last three in the back right for you and also include the coffee cup, where they got it from, and also what the wall looked like behind their mother during birth. It's like all this stuff with no relevancy

[@Anothergingerguyontheinternet]

I think the worst thing about this game that it's not broken or anything. It's just bland grey mush from start to end. Sure there's some pretty colors but you'd have more fun watching cement dry.

[@fallingupwards7974]

I gave up at the third boss. where you get to what the third boss is supposed to be and they're like "no she died from exhaustion. now run away from a bracelet"

[@LoneTaurus82]

They should have made Frey be British like her voice actress is.I think her performance would have came off more natural and fit better into the middle ages style world she got transported to.

[@DS9TREK]

Then they would've had to set it in the UK. For some reason game developers are allergic to that

[@Paul436-y7y]

​@@DS9TREKriggghhhhtttt. So that means a game with a black mc would have to take place in Africa 💀

[@falconeshield]

Where? North Africa is practically Arabia 2.0​@@Paul436-y7y

[@blairbird8022]

Does she use magic to charge her phone? How does it still have battery life?

[@Aidcaa]

She said more one liners than every marvel character combined- Pyrocynical

[@ruisen2000]

Devs: "We're representing black people in our game!" "as a gangster criminal" Man you can't make this shit up lmao

[@Toketree]

Tanta Prav’s voice acting was like the best thing about this game lol

[@Quandry1]

If I was Frey's parents I'd have chucked her through a portal to another world/dimension/whatever as well.

[@nu11n3t4]

"the replayablity is nonexistent" when you can watch a video and feel youve played the game then you know it's really bad lmao

[@darianstarfrog]

When you watch a 15min video, and already feel like another nap.. 😂

[@flopcartman]

I love how all of they budget went into the cat's fur