Kevin Costner | Behind His $100 Million Movie Gamble Against Hollywood | Change Agents #63

Today’s guest is Academy Award winning filmmaker, Kevin Costner.
Costner co-wrote, directed, and stars in the new film Horizon: An American Saga. In this episode of Change Agents, he and Andy Stumpf discuss why he invested so much personally into the project, his career, his philosophy on storytelling and more.
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[@thisisironclad]

Thanks to everyone who watches and supports the channel for making this episode possible! We have the best community on KZbin, and we will continue to keep pushing for bigger guests and topics that need more light. 💪

[@dontbugme7362]

Looking forward to listening Kevin is one of my absolute favorite actors/film makers of all time. Great get on your part. BTW, a good friend of mine is up fishing off the Flathead River this week with his family. He loves it and a late summer trip must be in the cards for me. Thanks!

[@user-lz3xo5ln1j]

Have you heard of Michael Yon? I hope you will look him up and have him on your channel.

[@sirineomrani9546]

Jaime beaucoup kevin costner❤jaime beaucoup l ecouter parler de ses films❤ ilest toujours honnete❤zohra zohra

[@TashaRose777]

Thank you for your 17 yrs of service ❤

[@sirineomrani9546]

@@TashaRose777 merci❤️

[@gogogaga7441]

Who else loved Waterworld despite the critics? 💙

[@generaleerelativity9524]

That was a great movie. I remember seeing it when it first came out on VHS. Apparently it flopped in theaters because it was released at the same time as a few other blockbusters that kinda knocked it out the box but it was good nonetheless.

[@pop1626]

Great movie, hell how can You not love a movie with Dennis Hopper as the bad dude.... Critics need to count to a thousand underwater..

[@timfronimos459]

Not so much, but I enjoyed No Way Out.

[@JonNo86]

I remember watching it and thinking throughout the whole thing "why is this movie hated? I don't get it."

[@knowahnosenothing4862]

The gills were over the top but everything else was good.

[@mattnichols2473]

Kevin Costner has to be one of the best of all time. I love his work and style. His voice is iconic as Tom Selleck or Sam Elliott. Since the first time I saw Bull Durham and Dances, that one watched at least 100 times each, I love that he’s a human and willing to show his real personality and heart . Thanks Andy for interviewing Kevin . That was awesome

[@Hwd371]

Love his movie. I don’t think his nor select have iconic or good voices.

[@M.STAR.MEDIA1]

I couldn't agree more!

[@margaretlouiseable]

Exactly! I would not want to marry him though. I cried all the way through Dances. Kevin is the shit.

[@amanda_ksmo]

Kevin Costner, this guy made me fall in love with Westerns as a teenager, and that was after Hollywood said that Westerns were dead.. then Costner picked up the torch so to speak and he has done an absolutely amazing job of it. Bravo, Sir!

[@LudiCrust.]

The westerns died off because they made so many of them & most of them were inevitably awful. It’s the exact same thing that happened to disco.

[@shanewoods1980]

The first western I ever saw was Silverado and man what a great cast in that movie

[@daveredlin1278]

Open Range is a must see movie....

[@user-vg3yc6gk5f]

Indeed! As are a number of Costner's films. And it's amazing how often he has to buck the system to make them his way. Tells you just how screwed up Hollywood is.

[@JoeBuck207]

I've never seen it or did I ? I remember that only in the end of the movie had some gun play ?

[@RobertoCalifornica]

Best gun audio in any western I've seen!

[@fleafarts3576]

SOLID MOVIE!!! A Man’s Movie.

[@JonNo86]

@@RobertoCalifornica Yup! It's like Heat for Westerns!

[@ViewerAnna]

Two manly men, living out their callings in life with integrity, and discussing life. This is much more than an interview about a movie. I'm so please to learn that Costner isn't stuck on himself, but driven by the calling to be a storyteller, and can both collaborate and follow his own inner voice. Also love that he tells stories of how he, a big time star, didn't get the part, didn't get to direct, or wasn't able to get the rights to a movie. Humble and confident at the same time. Strong role modeling.

[@ziruk-king4466]

Costner is solid -- he does what he wants -- he has my respect.

[@thisisironclad]

Totally agree, Costner is the boss!

[@robertdiggins7578]

​​@@thisisironcladThere's a side to this aspect that most people don't know. My family were some of the first settlers in Dakota Territory and I was born and raised in Rapid City. I remember going to see the release of Dances with Wolves in the local theater in high school with my friend Steve, who's mother was Lakota and lost her language at a boarding school. Steve's dad was of German heritage and was born and raised in South Dakota on a farm near the border of his mom's reservation. He learned to speak fluent Lakota, so the was some irony and a good match. His parents had moved to Rapid City, on the edge of the Black Hills, as my grandparents had, decades earlier, in 1905, from their farming community in Elk Pointe, which was East River. (the Missouri, which really marks the difference in the landscape, as the elevation begins to rise as you head West and more ranches than farms and you pass the Badlands (and Wall Drug lol) towards Rapid City and the Black Hills.) Steve and I were gen x kids with parents born in the 20s. It's a strange thing to experience. But the history is closer and it's important to the context of my point. In public school, they never taught us about the Indian Education Act or the fact that the KKK was prevalent in our hometown. My grandfather started out as a teacher in Rapid City in 1905 and eventually worked his way up to Superintendent. In 1928, the School Board was full of klan members and they told my grandpa to fire all the Catholic teachers. He refused because he has morals in addition to a wife and 10 kids. My mom was a year old and it was the beginning of the Great Depression. They pressured my grandpa, but he said no so they fired him. They lost their house owing $500 and lived outside and in places with dirt floors. Note: "churches and communities" can't help in times like that. 💡 They all did whatever work they could find. The WPA was a good thing and provided a lot of manual labor jobs building infrastructure that is still important today. My grandpa helped build Canyon Lake (in Rapid City) and my uncle went down to Colorado and worked on building more railroad in the Rockies and met his wife there. He told me the first time he saw her she was on a horse with a revolver in her holster. Most teenagers in the 1980s didn't hear their uncles telling them things like that. My dad and 6 or 7 uncles from both sides served in WWII on both fronts and during reconstruction. My friend Steve's dad went to Omaha Beach and fought in the Battle of the Bulge. My uncle Dave was in the Navy in the Pacific and was on the ship when the Emperor of Japan surrendered. None of them talked about the war. Some of them were severely damaged by it, including both of our dads. Anyway, it was the first time we'd been to a movie with the majority of the audience being Indian. It was pretty somber as we left. In college, I studied Dakota language and went to a native language symposium in Mankato, MN. I met Floyd "Red Crow" Westerman there. He gave a talk to a small room of us and talked about having a "White people museum with Nike shoes and Coca Cola. They could call it the Museum of Unnatural History" 😂 He was really nice and good humored. He was in Costner's movie, but started out as a folk singer in the 60s, with hits like "Custer Died for Your Sins". Speaking of the Battle of The Little Bighorn, my uncle Bill Groethe was into photography before the war and a recon photographer in WWII, and knew Black Elk's son as well. He was the only non-indian invited to the last Reunion of the Survivors of (they told me "Custer's Last Stand" in the public schools in the 70s). He took portraits of them which are in the Smithsonian, along with his pictures of the building of Mt Rushmore. In fact, if you fly into Rapid City Regional Airport, you'll see a display of the two sets of pictures next to each other. It's a nice display. So, speaking of the RC Airport, and now I'll make the point, Costner had bought Casinos in Deadwood after his Dances flick. Legalized gambling was back and, with Mt Rushmore, the No 1 industry was tourism (after the largest gold mine - the Homestake - in the hemisphere had been cleaned out and strip mining those hills with cyanide solution that killed every living thing in the soil and collected in pools that were uncovered...), Costner was a Deadwood guy with some real financial investments. He led an attempt to build a rail line that went directly from the RC Airport to Deadwood, skipping the entire economy of Rapid City and all the small towns and businesses in the Hills, not to mention Mt. Rushmore. Luckily it failed. I mean, I know what it's like to grow up in a small city where three families own the vast majority of real estate, business, and natural resources, but even Costner fame money couldn't make it happen. I think his focus started moving to Montana after that. He plays roles that aren't necessarily like his real character there too. He does tell a good story and is talented. I think he said it in this interview, though. Something about the West being a place where you had to just go and take what you wanted. Thanks for reading this, if you did. It was a good interview. 👍

[@3SIXTYPROD]

Absolutely

[@robertdiggins7578]

He led an attempt to build a rail line that went directly from the Rapid City Regional Airport to Deadwood, where he had casino ownership, skipping the entire economy of Rapid City and all the small towns and businesses in the Hills, not to mention Mt. Rushmore. Luckily it failed.

[@negativefishermen9286]

He voted for leftists because the establishment tells him to.. he’s a spineless elite like the rest of them, and none of the characters he plays are even remotely close to him in real life. He’s a pawn

[@bethywhite9875]

He is a real man! Stands up for what's right! Calls out what's not! And still carries himself with gratitude to others and wants to be a normal person because he is!! Plus what just happened not to long back with his Divorce, is still responsible and respectful! Love you Kevin!!!

[@cherylyearling4971]

Kevin has done many interviews during the last few weeks. This is one of the best I've listened to/watched. Excellent job Andy.

[@lexkanyima2195]

He was really hyping this movie for The Oscar's next year.

[@hardtruth63americanpatriot66]

Kevin is one of my favorite actors/directors of all time. I definitely support his work he has revived my love for Westerns. He is the best at it.

[@jasons4049]

So glad he's bringing these movies back. Love him as an actor

[@noworriesimfijian]

This is probably one of the best interviews of a filmmaker that I’ve ever seen. The ease at which Kevin Costner expresses himself only comes about from the insightful questions that Andy poses. There are no starry eyed, fan boy type questions but a genuine curiosity at the process of filmmaking. There is also a level of mutual respect between the interviewer and the interviewee. Both recognizing and affirming they come from different spheres but acknowledging similar life lessons through their different experiences. Always been a big fan of Kevin Costner’s movies and was gutted to hear he wouldn’t be coming back for the next season of Yellowstone, but Horizon looks to more than make up for that. Great interview Andy looking forward to more. God bless from Fiji 🇫🇯👍😎👊🤙😊

[@GenX...MCMLXV]

Kevin Costner will eventually go down as one of Americas greatest storytellers and for some reason he reminds me of Tom Petty, one of, if not the best, songwriters.

[@Marine1truth]

Except Kevin was never in a Mental institution.

[@galeparker1067]

🤣🤣🤣🤔 Not quite "unique" enuf...... 👍👍👃✌️🇨🇦🤣🤣@Marine1truth

[@gerrydooley951]

you sound like a person who hasn't seen a lot of movies

[@KansasColoradoFarmer]

Not the brightest are you

[@catherinehoffpauir6323]

Open Range is my favorite. I am a woman who has loved Westerns since I was a teenager.

[@RobertoCalifornica]

It's also my favorite. We could have been close friends.

[@C_R_O_M________]

One of my favorites is the Oxbow Incident. That was a powerful movie, overall. Not necessarily as a Western even though it is a Western. As powerful as "12 angry men", another favorite.

[@jesseb4827]

You Andy, Shawn Ryan, and Mike Ritland have been great to watch grow over the years.

[@busbey61]

I couldn't agree more!

[@allenlarabie8854]

These are the kind of movie's that have to continue to remind us where we came from.. lessons in history must continue. This movie is a great example.

[@jasonherzogmma]

Andy must be a breath of fresh air for someone on the press circuit. He really is doing a great job. Thanks, Andy.

[@ericwiese7479]

The Postman is still one of my favorites of Kevin’s work.

[@MilitantPrepping]

lol that’s not a popular opinion, but it’s one of my favorites too. Ford Lincoln Mercury 💪

[@ericwiese7479]

@@MilitantPrepping now I am going to watch it tonight! Love that Tom Petty is in it too.

[@GLEN1061]

Yep 100% correct!

[@Physics072]

Id put mowing my yard above postman but its close.

[@ericwiese7479]

@@Physics072 lol…I enjoy both! I’m weird I know

[@robertedwards7749]

​​I know folks like Mr. Costner's shootem up movies but my ALL TIME favorite Movie is The Guardian. I like it best because he shows the mental discipline of Others before Self. Thank you Sir.

[@thisisironclad]

The Guardian is a fantastic movie! It definitely showcases some important values.

[@robertedwards7749]

@@thisisironclad Perhaps you can produce a video of what it really means to live by the words "That Others May Live" I got to know some really great men when I was active duty and I have been a volunteer in SAR as a civi. Since my early adult years I have adopted that saying as my own. I hope I can live it more deeply in the next few years. I don't think I will see more that another 10 years before what I knew America was and has been corrupted to be.

[@user-df8zq5nx8l]

Tearjerker!

[@JohnnychimpO907]

Great movie! Not many movies that highlight coasties like that, and they really did a great job of portraying how badass rescue swimmers truly are. I don’t understand how they can even swim with such an enormous set of balls weighing them down, but they pull it off!

[@robertedwards7749]

@@JohnnychimpO907 You miss understand sir, when a man has been properly trained and has the right moral compass to guide the use of such training. Those "Balls" you refer to act as a flotation device and work in their favor.

[@SandraBlanton-vn3mh]

I loved Waterworld. I am a Costner movie believer. This man makes movies that keep you entertained and always wanting to come back for more. I do not listen to critics.

[@riffism]

Andy has become one of the most thoughtful and introspective interviewers of the past decade or more. Great questions

[@kevincostneritalianfanclub]

Congratulations on this insightful and thoughtful conversation. Kevin truly is a “hard working dreamer”.

[@lexkanyima2195]

Just like Sly Stallone, Denzel Washington and Will Smith.

[@seanwanlass2501]

Great job Andy! You're living the dream! One day you're doing full auto Friday, wingsuiting , Triple 7, emergency surgery, jumping into Normandy , and then you're interviewing Costner! All of your lost brethren know you were an American worth dying for....guaranteed! Fantastic interview with all the emotions....raw.....

[@randalng9332]

Wow. Kevin Costner. Are you kidding! Great interview.

[@thisisironclad]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@douglassinclaire9968]

Met him when he was on tour with his Yellowstone music. Firm handshake, looked me in the eye. Was a pleasure.

[@user-cr8dq7sc6h]

What a thrill that must have been. So great you got to meet him

[@salmotones]

Watched a few hours ago. Upon reflection I am seeing what a down to earth guy he is, and absolutely dedicated to what he does. Details matter, which dedicated people know....

[@user-vg3yc6gk5f]

One of the few times I've watched an interview, where I felt that the interviewer deserved to be there asking those questions. And you could see that Kevin felt the same way. Great job Andy!

[@williamlikos1996]

Congrats Andy..It's been amazing to watch your journey..

[@thisisironclad]

Thanks so much!

[@terryeaster1]

Open range is one of my favorite movies of all time

[@dorothyparkes4831]

We just got Dads army records after 77 years, he was special services, the MOD and SAS only just released his records, I wish I could let you see his records, Dad escaped POW camps 3 times and. bought fellow soldiers home to England, get them to Mildenhall American air base so they could get home to America and Canada

[@mattmorrison9379]

Havent been to the movies in years. But i think Kevin can get me to the theater for this one.

[@user-df8zq5nx8l]

Me as well.

[@user-cr8dq7sc6h]

I go to movies like once or twice every other month but I’m excited to see Horizon and Quiet Place Day One next weekend

[@clintoncampbell236]

He was in my home town several months back, had lunch at the prairie house after a morning of quail hunting. I haven’t been to a movie in a theater in a long time. Because well they don’t make good movies anymore. But in this case, I’m going Tuesday with my girlfriend and my oldest son.

[@patriciaseitz3530]

Me, too. I am so very glad I saw this movie in the theater. Wish everyone would. It was meant to be seen there.

[@user-cr8dq7sc6h]

@@patriciaseitz3530 I totally agree. I don’t go to movies near as often as I used to. It’s a shame Horizon is not doing well hence why the second got pushed back. I also saw A Quiet Place Day One which I also liked.

[@camiray2687]

People gravitated to Mr. Cosner, as he IS entertainment in the purest form. My favorite option.

[@Justforfun-ek7et]

Incredible interview, Kevin Costner is an amazing person and actor and am thankful I’ve been born at the time I have been to be able to grow up watching this man become who he is today. Thank you Ironclad and team for making this interview happen and bringing this content and people like Kevin to us.

[@SI-up7zi]

Favourite film maker since i was a young man. Since Untouchables

[@KevinBurth-db3iv]

Andy is a stud. Great interviewer, great man, true patriot.

[@lorriefreeman3925]

Have watched many of Andy's interviews. Real, honest fair, blunt, one of the best. Love the stories, and the different types of interviews. I am a coasties' kid, had lost my dad and was looking for Coast Guard stories, and found Andy's podcasts. Need to have some of the "puddlejumpers" stories from Vietnam and different areas the USCG have been. So looking forward to this podcast and future one. When are you doing the long motorcycle run? Thank you for keeping it so real.

[@thisisironclad]

Thanks for watching, Lorrie, and for supporting Andy. I'll make sure he sees this.

[@vettevegas]

What a GREAT interview with my favorite actor. OMG this looks good. And part 2 released the same summer. Wow! Finally another Epic Costner.

[@dragorlad86]

Holy shit, from 37:47 on my heart was shirking with every answer. I get it, nobody is perfect but there's something about him that is comforting and very real. For those of us who tend to "day dream" he's definitely inspirational.

[@herkymatthews6767]

i can't wait, Kevin, you are the best, love all the movies you're in and make.

[@johncatlin6181]

dang Andy got the biggest actor in the world only movies ill watch these day has to have him otherwise I podcast!!! awesome man well done still watch u over Costner lol

[@Brooks_M3]

Let’s see if Andy can pull some strings and get Kevin on Rogan cuz 3 hours of this would be amazing!

[@SherriMiller-uk8bk]

You both are good men! Kevin Costner, there is no better story teller!!!! You are the best at what you do! Yes, you are handsome, yes, I’m head over heels in love with you! But most of all, I respect you because you love your children more than you love yourself! You have raised them right, just like you were raised right! And they love you and respect you, that speaks volumes! Kevin Costner, I’m going to Horizon by myself. I will be able to pay full attention to your Horizon that way. Although my reason for going alone is sort crazy, it is what I want, unless of course you come and take me with you? That’s a whole different story. Kevin Costner, you are the best storyteller ever born. You do it perfectly. We are the same age, I wish we knew each other. But, I know you through your movies and interviews, I will settle for that I guess lol I can’t wait to see Horizon, tell Hayes, we are all very happy for him also! Congratulations Costner men 💥♥️

[@robertedwards7749]

I can answer the very last question asked Mr. Costner. ​​If we as a "Civilized Nation" understand our REAL and HONEST History, if we know who we are and were we have come from, we will know ourself and where we are going in Life. This is why those who are awake today and know there is a lot wrong with how our nation has fallen and corrupted want to see Honest and truthful portraits of how we lived and how we should still be living. Just a thought.

[@thisisironclad]

Understanding our history is crucial for shaping our future. Well said!

[@robertedwards7749]

@@thisisironclad Thank you Sir, I was not sure how my comment would be received. I've talked to a lot of Americans over the years who say they are awake yet have no clue or concept of what America really is or stands for. I felt this video was a good place to share what part of my core values are based on. I am not the most educated on America's history but what I know and continue to learn deepens my strength and beliefs.

[@robertphillips93]

​@@robertedwards7749 It's not for everyone, but The American Soul by Jacob Needleman has some really good insights about this question. One anecdote has Franklin speaking to the delegates to the Constitutional Convention in the hellish summer of 1787: ". . . we shall be divided by our little, partial, local interests, our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and a bye-word down to future ages. And, what is worse, mankind may hereafter, from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing a government by human wisdom, and leave it to chance, war and conquest."

[@michaeldoughty1782]

That is one epic interview, Mr Costner at his best, open, honest and real. Great job, I was riveted from the start.

[@bittnerbs]

This is an AMAZING interview. Andy, it’s incredible the flow that you had and the questions that you asked. I felt like I was watching 2 long lost friends getting caught up on their lives. Incredible job!

[@pty1pty2]

KC has that type of personality that makes one want to know more. What an amazing actor. Thank you for sharing this nice conversation.

[@JonNo86]

Totally correct about Dances With Wolves. Saw that movie a lot growing up, but when I revisited it later in life, especially after my military career with multiple deployments, it really did take a whole new meaning and profoundness that I never expected before. Also, Open Range is quite possibly not only my favorite Western, but favorite movie of all time. That sense of "we need to stand up against these bullies and do the right thing, no matter what happens" has really stuck with me.

[@procram]

Stumpf and Costner. Wasn't expecting this. Great job, Andy! You're doing awesome.

[@beevee4445]

I'm a big western fan (loved him in Outer Range). What he said - doesn't have to be important, just something you'll remember. Yesssss! Hollywood take note.

[@Crypto4Sho]

hes not in outer range lol

[@joinjen3854]

Open Range.

[@user-pj4nq3nm7q]

THANK YOU VERRY MUCH

Thanks for this Mr. Costner. I'm so glad a western epic is coming out. I love westerns so much. Especially those that take me into that world where I can feel the breeze over the grass and the cold mornings. It's been a while since there was a movie I looked forward to seeing. And it's independent!

[@thisisironclad]

You and me both!

[@CynthialLester]

WE ARE ESTATICALLY HAPPY THAT YOU DECIDED TO BE A ACTOR , WRITER PRODUCER. & DIRECTOR!!!

[@1Rene9Night5cart0]

Great conversation w/ Kevin Costner, who also has made some memorable baseball movies. One Great American Hero who was also a Great Baseball player and Hall of Famer was Yogi Berra. Many also remember him for his innumerable puzzling quips. But how many know that he was there in Normandy on D-DAY.

[@daltonjustice8795]

Wow. When Kevin spoke about the scene of Father and Son I got goosebumps. Excited to go see this now

[@xvsj-s2x]

Excellent interview Andy, Kevin Costner has always delivered impactful roles, stories and movies. (My opinion)🇺🇸 Thank you

[@thisisironclad]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@michelea1010]

Loved the interview…..another great one that helps public understand the film process and peek inside makes it so much more interesting. Can’t wait to see it. ❤

[@dougm5341]

Andy, this was an amazing interview. I think you did a great job of getting Kevin to open up and just let it flow….

[@TommiChong]

I was stationed in Okinawa for six years..USMC. I did all the battle sights tours I could for the Pacific theatre. Gives the HBO miniseries the Pacific context. That and being a marine how much it has been drummed into our entire physical being

[@Erick_Bloodaxe]

That was amazing to see him being so candid. I've grown up watching his movies like Dances With Wolves and I've admired him and his work for so long it's great getting a glimpse of how he thinks as well as some personal life notes. The fact that his kids said what they did about him investing that money into the movie rather than saving it for them says everything I need to know about how he's raised them and the kind of people they are: good people who value each other over mere material. Needless to say, I can't wait to go see this film, or series of films, in the theater. I've been excited since I saw the first preview, but now I'm even more interested. Also, this change agents series on IRONCLAD is awesome and I can't wait to see more!

[@TheHeroJourneys]

As I say: The Journey finds the Hero. A person is presented with a challenge BECAUSE they went against the grain of their peers. For this dubious distinction, their good deeds are punished with a gauntlet they must overcome, and they will likely not bask in fame during their lifetime. That is the true tale of the Hero’s Journey.

[@GrayHat0621]

Who doesn’t like a good western. I haven’t watched this movie but I love all his work. Waterworld was one of my favorite movies.

[@thisisironclad]

Waterworld was epic!

[@pondopondo1497]

We need Kevin on JRE.

[@Ghostyx1989]

Why

[@peacesmakers]

What an awesome episode. Greatly exceeded my expectations.

[@chriscoates3624]

This was a great interview. Andy you did a great job asking deep questions

[@rbexcel9899]

Love Kevin Costner movies, he is a great story teller weather in.a movie or interview.

[@thomasletner6315]

Definitely had the same thoughts of Dances With Wolves, the solitude was great healing for myself. What a great interview, Hollywood doesn't deserve Kevin Costner.

[@pleinaire8698]

What a great interview between a Navy seal veteran and Kevin Costner..❤

[@jgborn]

Costner has no idea he’s talking to a dude from seal team six. Lol

[@stanw909]

I'm not so sure of that. He is constantly deferential to Andy regarding his war experiences during the interview.

[@gjwiley6250]

@@stanw909 He specifically asked what his background was.

[@michaelbarnhart8479]

Was thinking the same thing, you would think someone would prepare him for the conversation…provide a little situational awareness.

[@jgborn]

@@gjwiley6250 he specifically didn’t say seal team six. Soooo Costner has no idea he’s talking to a dude from devgru

[@soulfireonfire6423]

@@jgborn So! He knows he spent 17 years as a seal! KC is not the interviewer! He’s was asked questions about the movie and he answers those questions and discusses those questions from a point of what he was thinking! Where he was coming from. He’s answering them the same as if anyone else, was asking them. Pretty sure he had some deep discussions with his brother before he passed away . Meaning, he knows exactly, what all these men have personally sacrificed. and how tuff they had to be, their personal experiences that changed them forever regardless of what unit of team you were on Did you miss the part when he talks about his brother ? His brother who died from the devastating, excruciating, and deadly results of the war he was in! . Pretty sure Kevin Costner had to. watch his brother suffer and battle many health issues from the time he cane home till his death!

[@donaldmccuddy3611]

Kevin Costner was my favorite actor as a kid because of Robin Hood movie with Morgan Freeman. Still my favorite because I like the way he rolls doing man shit like a real American.

[@user-df8zq5nx8l]

In every movie I can think of he does man shit. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Susiesdarling]

I loved that movie - the interplay between Morgan Freeman and Kevin. What I didn't expect was that Alan Rickman would steal the scene in the tower away from Kevin. Great talent! Alan is sorely missed. Wonderful that we have Kevin, and can watch him grow.

[@lewisscruggspaintingco.pai1498]

-Dances with wolves - Field of Dreams - The War - A Perfect World - For Love of the game - Let Him Go - JFK - Dragonfly - Revenge - Mr. Brooks - The art of racing in the rain - Hidden Figures - The Highwaymen Looking forward to Horizon and rooting for him in general. Hope the best for his career and personal life. Thanks for all the great movies 😎

[@blueduster74]

My grandfather was in that first wave of Omaha beach. Dog White I believe. Seven of his platoon died there. He never went back over, it was something he wished he’d done. We are going in a couple yrs, in part for him. He’s been gone since 2002. I went into the Navy at 17. Spent my 18th b-day December of 1990 during Desert Shield going into Desert Storm. The flights we did (ASW IN Helos) were harry to a fresh 18 yr old. Somalia in 92 and Bosnia in 95 were a different crazy. But each time I came back my grandpa was there for me to talk to. I was the only one outside the VFW he talked to about those days. I didn’t see 1/10 of trauma you guys in Iraq and Afghanistan did. But those talks were important for me. When I went back to college in 2013 at Palomar in San Marcos, I ended up being one who talked to the younger guys coming home then. We had 11 vets kill themselves the 13/14 year. One was a dad of one of my stepdaughter’s classmates. That was devastating to so many of us. It’s crazy how you talking about Normandy has brought all that back. Thanks for the work you do. And yeah, divorce and raising kids is fucking hard. I don’t even get to talk to my late 20s kids, they took mom’s side even though I never asked them to choose. Being a step dad with my second wife has been amazing though. They were 9, 3 and 1 when I met their mom. I’m a grandpa now with the oldest. I never imagined that. As bad as the first marriage ended, tbe second has been incredible. She helped me through the rough times over my kids, that period at Palomar and so much more. The right woman is a gift from God.

[@user-df8zq5nx8l]

And I'm quite sure you are her gift from GOD as well.

[@michaelfarmer537]

This was a great interview. But the best part for me was @ 45:26 when Mr. Costner describes reaching the audience through a moment of resonance that imprints itself into our memory. In this way he’s bringing back movie magic. Great work and video! ❤

[@user-xr9nr1yo3c]

Hello, I'd just like to express my appreciation for Kevin Costner being a National Treasure... I'm 50 years young and he, along with other artists and notable people were a huge part of my life growing up through the 80s and beyond...I want to s experience his newest film badly . Thanks to K.C. AND EVERYONE INVOLVED BECAUSE IT TAKES A TOWN NOT JUST A SINGLE PERSON.

[@Susiesdarling]

I watched Horizon alone, too, the day before it was scheduled for release. Then, a few days later, I took 2 of my sisters to see it with me. There is so much action stuffed into the 1st chapter, it's bery beneficial to see it again.We all loved it, & are looking forward to Chapter 2.

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

That was really really good. There’s so much more to be gained from these long form conversations as opposed to the 5 minutes blasts that we traditionally have seen on late night television. Very anxious to get out and see Horizon.

[@artistsmeetfilm6491]

Mr. Costner produced the most amazing Native American dance performance years ago I wish hed do another one. I never got to see it live but caught half of it on PBS. It never really got much publicity but if you caught it, youd never forget it. It was life changing, beautiful; showing amazing physical strength with great music and give anything to see a whole show live. Man produces great stuff. Thank you Kevin.

[@colleenshea2293]

Respect for Kevin Costner. I will always support his work.

[@margaretlouiseable]

Kevin is my age. Dances with Wolves, Bull Durham. I love the one where he's a stoner that finds his way. Thank you for this. I LOVE HIM!

[@GoochParmesan]

I think it’s safe to say that a vast majority of people are fans of Costner’s work, myself included. Additionally, following Andy’s journey post-service has also been an absolute treat. Personally I’d like to tip my hat to Ironclad most notably. Having the wherewithal of the current state of foreign policy, social and international climates, to name a few, then shining a light on those dark corners of the human experience brings much needed awareness. It has been a joy to watch guys like Andy, Rocco, Dom, the Eagle: Beyond series, all of it. Keep pushing the envelope!

[@goodpainlive]

Love his movies. Revenge is underrated. Great movie. Andy, you are a friggin legend. Thank you for all that you have done for this country.

[@philrotella6798]

Huge fan of Kevin’s project. Another Excellent Ironclad podcast. Thanks Andy.

[@SI-up7zi]

We talk about the Golden Age! I appreciate and love that era. But lets talk about our Golden Age! Costner,, Russell, Stallone, Arnold, Gibson. Vreat film makers, actors!!! Lets support our Heroes

[@stevegordon8474]

Very interesting interview. Kevin Costner is a deep thinker and he has made a really great movie. It's fascinating that he tells us that he has made this about men for men while at the same time raising the importance of women. That's a very interesting perspective to place on HORIZON, itself a definite advance on the Western genre. He has given us a complexity of characters in CHAPTER ONE and there is plenty of action as well but what really struck me was the quality of the scriptwriting and dialogue. I'm very much looking forward to the next 3 chapters. HORIZON: AN AMERICAN SAGA is epic, and classic. We will be talking about this epic long in the future, the same way we still talk about John Ford's films and other Western classics. Personally, I love Westerns because they raise a preponderance of ethical questions that we can address in our own minds, and it's great that Costner challenges us to think about these issues.

[@fightmilk8613]

Wow dude the fact that you got Costner on here is wild. Congrats!

[@MartsEntertainment]

This was fabulous. It would be great to hear an interview with Harrison Ford, Ed Harris, the real American men of film. Like Kostner.

[@Mike12131984]

Love this dude. For Love of the Game is in my top 5 movies all time.

[@sebastiansmith4945]

I’m looking forward to this movie!

[@IgcFilms]

Is the best film of the year, a new Western masterpiece! Costner is a great director!

[@toddreynolds8119]

This guy is so lucky to meet such a celebrity. I could tell Costner was in awe of Andy.

[@vettevegas]

This looks like its worth seeing on the big screen.

[@ExecutiveZombie]

Had me glued the whole movie with gorgeous cinematography. The language was on point.

[@telluwide5553]

As much as I liked Costner in Yellowstone and respect the fine writing of Taylor Sheridan, the guy can write, i.e., Sicario, Sheridan ended up kind of getting carried away with his whole snoozefest of prequels...reminds me of Cobra Kai...These writers can be quite full of themselves. Costner got a bad rap due to the shit talking from those over at Yellowstone. Lets face it, Costner carried that show and brought a lot of attention to all those fine costars in it. For that reason alone, tgat and his reputation should have been enough for that production team to work around his needs, not the other way around. The man is a longtime respected actor and filmmaker. Sure, he's had some tremendous flops, but the man keeps swinging and taking risks. Respect!

[@grisg.4121]

Great interview. Loved everything about this interview. Bravo!

[@sandraspidle5972]

I like the fact that he's just a man who finds out how to get it done, what he's trying to project in a movie to get his message or story out there. He doesn't act like he's all that and the greatest of all time. His actors may think he is fantastic, but he doesn't and that matters. Kevin's movies are memorable ❤️🌹🏹. Always.

[@michellehakala481]

I've loved Kevin Costner all my life, this interview shows the reason why!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@andreww8941]

Excellent interview/conversation Andy! Mr. Costner is a great actor and a hell of a director/writer. Super excited for the 'Horizon' journey ahead! Thank you both for the great convo.

[@mikelee7876]

Holy shit. Andy and Kevin holy shit. Dam man

[@wallacerose7499]

Would everyone stop saying Holy crap ! Class !

[@AniwayasSong]

I have not enjoyed every movie Mr. Costner has participated/made, but I certainly respect his dedication and enthusiasm for them!

[@pickititllneverheal9016]

Camt wait to see. Kevin is one of my favorite actors. TATONKA

[@CosmicWeed08]

Awesome interview. Kevin Costners movies are Iconic, as is he as an actor. Just a good dude.

[@FJTx100]

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