Kevin-NY | Biblical Scholars Omit Information | Talk Heathen 05.48

[@TheTruthKiwi]

Imagine being stuck in "heaven" with Kevin for eternity.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

"There is no point in trying to force a particular interpretation", said Kevin as he tried to force this own particular interpretation.

[@Lupinemancer87]

If you ever wonder why Aliens have yet to visit our planet, it's because, due to the existence of Theists, they have yet to discover any intelligent life here.

[@AlexPBenton]

I can’t wrap my head around Kevin’s motivation. He calls so frequently, but every time he speaks in such a monotone voice that it is nearly unbelievable that he isn’t a troll.

[@MarlboroughBlenheim1]

He’s just lost and ignorant.

[@amandarios448]

But then again would a troll not b some kind of excited that they'd be trolling? This guy sounds like he is working on a holiday he was called last minute to cover bc someone got sick

[@patchbunny]

@@amandarios448 Not necessarily. IIRC Matt from the Stone Church was a regular caller with stupid arguments and was similar to Kevin, and he's a confirmed troll.

[@joelpartee594]

I spoke in a very hesitant monotone voice for years, lots of people speak with a flat affect all the time, even when they are sincerely interested in and confidant about what they are saying.

[@LillyTheLonelySock]

I think Kevin's intimidated by the hosts, particularly Matt. He really wants his beliefs to be true, because if they are not that would be devastating. I wish Matt would be gentler with callers like Kevin. He deeply wants the hosts to agree that he has good reasons to believe in a god. But maybe deep down, he's really calling so the hosts can give him reasons that life without a god still has meaning.

[@annk.8750]

Oh, it's just Kevin throwing more spaghetti at the wall to see if any of it will stick.

[@tedgrant2]

God doesn't "want" anything for the simple reason that he doesn't need anything. He never gets hungry or bored and in any case he is timeless. It follows that he has no plans and has nothing to think about. Given these obvious facts about God, he is as good as dead.

[@tpu55]

‘You’re boring the pants off me.’

[@Irongaint]

The lengths humans will go to, to justify, validate their own bias beliefs just fascinate me. Its like they need their little god theory to be real

[@wunnell]

They do. If you have a god belief then that generally affects how you live your life. In many instances, if affects how you live your life a lot. Pascal's Wager says that you lose nothing by believing but you do. You lose all that time and effort that you put into religious pursuits that you could have put into other things. They generally cannot bear the thought that that's what they've done.

[@Irongaint]

@@samuelcalderwood1379 No. God is a little theory in your head

[@Irongaint]

@@samuelcalderwood1379 Thank you for proving my point, in your head, Good work

[@ookeekthelibrarian]

@@samuelcalderwood1379 's bollocks

[@Authenticallyathena]

They do because they have made their belief their whole identity. If it's not real then what does that say about them as people themselves?

[@elainejohnson6955]

Why didn't this god write a book that is clear on who wrote it and when?!? Why didn't it make sure the Bible was preserved properly and translated to have the correct meaning in every language?!?

[@MrWeezer55]

You got it. If god wanted fundamentalists to interpret the Bible literally, he would have written it in contemporary colloquial English!

[@davidbelway6076]

Day one. Give Adam and Eve an calendar. Teach them to write and record history. Pretty simple fore thought that any half wit human would anticipate.

[@Alex-0597]

Haven't watched the video yet, but I wonder what random tangent Kevin's going to bring up after saying he doesn't want to get on a tangent. Last time it was Squid Game, maybe this time it'll be how the disappointing launch of the Definitive Edition of the original GTA trilogy was foretold by the Ars Goetia?

[@ross-carlson]

Same here - I couldn't be more DONE with Kevin. Nice enough guy but as you said each week it's some new batshit crazy idea and he NEVER acknowledges previous calls and that he's been debunked OVER AND OVER AND OVER. He has ZERO interest in learning or a two way conversation and like most theists he just waits for his turn to talk and goes off on some batshit crazy idea. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

[@jeff6660]

Kevin should look up the condition called Tangential Speech...because he exhibits the condition in spades.

[@solly119119]

I can only assume AE is taking YET ANOTHER Kevin from NY call because there are no other theists waiting in the queue. If I had to listen to that droning, psychotic-episode-inducing voice on a regular basis, I honestly do not know if I'd find the nearest heavy, blunt object and go to town on his freakin' head.

[@funknelson87]

It cracks me up the way Matt says “So What?” With the H sound emphasized! Reminds me of that scene in Hot Rod lmao

[@lincthomas7178]

many americans do that, they pronounce the h, where other english speaking countries dont,

[@funknelson87]

@@lincthomas7178 I don’t doubt what you’re saying but as an American myself I’ve rarely encountered anyone who speaks that way. Btw, are you a Lincoln? Being one myself that’s something else I seldom run across, somebody with my first name! Lol

[@lincthomas7178]

@@funknelson87 yes my name is lincoln, ive just noticed a lot of americans say the harsh 'h' as when they say vehicle, the pronounce the h and other words they say 'h' very harshly, we dont speak like that here

[@funknelson87]

@@lincthomas7178 oh ok yeah I understand the confusion. I was thinking strictly in terms of the H’s that follow W in words like who, what, when, etc that are supposed to be silent. But you’re right, we’re taught to pronounce the H in vehicle and similar words.

[@lincthomas7178]

@@funknelson87 I don't know why when the h is silent but I guess that's America for you

[@epicurusstan3223]

I'm starting to think that Kevin is a flat earther, with him bringing up the book of Enoch and the like...

[@DariusRoland]

I love the Book of Enoch! It's an AWESOME fantasy novel.

[@epicurusstan3223]

@@DariusRoland Hell yeah! I got into the flat earth movement because I am DM for DnD and love world building. The book of Enoch and the book of Giants where inspirations for a DnD campaign :D The bible does have it's' uses :P

[@DariusRoland]

@@epicurusstan3223 I have & play a LOT of ttrpg's. One of my favorite games is Armageddon, which specifically uses Enochian characters such as Nephilim & Seraphim alongside all the other deities of the world to fight against "Cthulian" style horrors in "The Final War."

[@sandman6849]

@@epicurusstan3223 I have only ever played one game of dnd a loooooong time ago, I have a good understanding of it and think that there is so much material that could be used in the game from religious texts, and not only the big book of Jewish fairytales. So much crazy available to use. I had not thought using them until I saw your post. So awesome!

[@epicurusstan3223]

@@sandman6849 Could have the tower of babel being a dungeon and as you get higher up your parties languages start getting mixed up, so the dwarf starts speaking draconic, or the elf starts speaking in gnomish. There is a lot of neat things you can do as long as your playing with people who wont get offended by fun :D

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Kevin should re-write his own Bible, and make it exactly what he wants it to be

[@dustyflyntgravel-sporn8941]

My dream debate would be Kevin versus Xeno.

[@johnd.shultz7423]

Kevin has issues with biblical scholars and authors,he should write his own full length bible,this will hopefully cut into his frequent calls to athiestic venues...

[@UngoogleableMan]

Kenneth was absolutely right about Kevin. He's not sincere. He's calling to waste the shows time and take time away from genuine callers. He puts on a meek, polite facade, but he's a troll on par with Mark from Stone Church.

[@Lrover16]

Why, why, why are you STILL talking calls from Kevin???? (and Marlon from the Philippines)

[@kobe51]

When no one else is calling the show, you are tortured by some guy named Kevin...

[@sdaniels160]

Bill and Ted's Excellent adventure got things right about Lincoln.

[@sdaniels160]

@Steve M Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

[@jeff6660]

Kevin has called in many times and does nothing but whine and drone on about nothing.

[@dimitrioskalfakis]

waste of time with a caller who needs counseling.

[@hrh4961]

Must get lonely down in mom's basement.

[@ross-carlson]

PLEASE, I/WE BEG OF YOU - PLEASE NO MORE KEVIN! It's been what, 6 **MONTHS** that he calls in basically EVERY week, each time with some new batshit crazy idea - he has ZERO interest in learning or an actual dialogue, everything that's said every week is completely ignored and forgotten as he moves on to some new batshit crazy idea of the week. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

[@sparki9085]

Im pretty sure kevin is deaf. He keeps not even hearing the questions the hosts ask him

[@scamchan]

When a GOD knows what can convince the world he is real - But he just watches the people he knows their hearts and knows how many he will send to hell because of the sin he allowed to happen in the first place.

[@laurajarrell6187]

Matt and JMike both looked, as Kevin spoke, as if they were getting drowsy, lol. I could see that look come over them of, 'oh no, this is just too silly'. Though, to be fair, I think they had different words in mind. You guys both look great and healthy though, Matt and JMike! Please stay that way. 👍🥰😍✌

[@freddan6fly]

Kevin reasons like a flat earther. Edit: I mean not at all.

[@ianjackson8855]

Sorry run out of patience. This guy needs dropping. I'm sure he's nice and means no harm but we never get anywhere. It's all just conspiracy thinking. 🙄

[@tonydarcy1606]

Well I suppose it's a bit different from how many angels can dance on a pin's head ? As Matt says, it's completely irrelevant as to whether or not a god exists .

[@brucemadge8147]

Kevin speaks like a man living in a land of fantasy. Perhaps he smokes weed (nothing wrong with that) and just lets his imagination run wild. Perhaps he's a comedian and this is his idea of a joke. Perhaps he's lonely and just calls in for the company. Whatever drives him, the result is total drivel each and every time he picks up the phone.

[@MovieMakingMan]

Kevin’s IQ is about the same as an amoeba.

[@IRGeamer]

Ad hominem attacks are fallacious arguments frequently used as a defence mechanism by people too wilfully ignorant to know that they are falling victim to the Dunning-Kruger effect or too illiberal and arrogant to even try to understand new information if it could possibly challenge their narrative, no matter how verifiable the facts actually are. It's such an obvious thought ending cliché. "If you hate something, don't you do it too.” - Eddie Vedder "Not for You"

[@amiralhijaz5850]

You're waisting your time Kevin, try reading books like the three little pigs, humpty dumbty and othe fables you'll learn new things

[@carter358]

Apparently he's calling just to hear himself on TV because there's no point to this whatsoever.

[@nates9029]

So it is the fault of biblical scholars that the extra Biblical books aren't in the Bible?! Many biblical scholars DO acknowledge extra Biblical books and refer to them, such as the Ascension of Isaiah, the books of Maccabees and the book of Jubilee so he is wrong on his basic premise. Them acknowledging these books doesn't mean they are any more real or accurate than the book that are in the Biblical canon.

[@adamstrange7884]

Kevin likes to disprove the Bible, or should you smoke half your stash before calling a talk show?

[@1harperaj]

The word that the caller should use is “plagiarised” copied form other sources, before believing stories within the bible one should conform the authenticity and Provenance

[@BearManNorth]

Atheism is what happens when YOU read the bible. Christianity happens when someone else reads it for you.😮

[@tw3235]

Another expert of the bible. LOL

[@Patrick77487]

Caller devolution continues. Smaller and smaller circle of repetitive voices, claims.

[@philipfitzsimons5924]

It's a story Kevin there's no verifiable evidence that it's true

[@geraldammons5520]

His voice sounds familiar...

[@TalkHeathen]

He has called the program many times. :)

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

Poor Matt. Still waiting around for evidence that a god is real from the callers. I can understand his frustration. But who knows? It's hasn't been that many years compared to the age of the earth. I wouldn't hold my breath though. But maybe in the next 15-20 years we will at least get a better argument?

[@anushkasekkingstad1300]

What his imaginary sky fairy wants is no concern of mine. He can try to please his choice of “god” if he chooses. I have no interest in doing so.

[@timothywilliams4089]

Zzzzzzz Zzzzzzz, sawing logs Kev.....zzzzzz

[@newyorkchamp9110]

People copy each other all the time that's all prophetic word, God said people, psychics etc, etc do and that's really all they do on KZbin still no proof of a god, movies get better u make a remake u know who made choregraphed directed produced etc, plots twists turns, similarities etc, stories are stories meant to be believed with others verifying to give perception simple, if God was real he would say and show up this is me no perception, so stories are stories might be entertaining u might put yourself in thors shoes or whoever but stories are stories, and the reason stories over shadow god is because their is evidence of plenty stories but no god, stories can get credit for getting you by in certain ways etc stories present itself god doesn't can't believe in something that can't show it's existence logical facts

[@lincthomas7178]

ring up and ask him, heres hes number 555 666!!

[@marlin6668]

That would shock me into cardiac arrest.

[@nicolea8013]

Dude stop

[@marlin6668]

If JMike were to pull his face his face off… and he was some alien. I wouldn’t be that surprised.

[@marlin6668]

Matt is awesome… but JMike is smarter.

[@لالهوةإلالهوتي]

Sounds like Matt has a little bit of his Christian background still. Why do you care about wha the Bible academics have to say? Why acknowledge their authority? It's fine if people want to make an academic career out of dissecting the bible but their opinion is as good as anyone's because isn't faith between you and your alleged God? Is there anything more intimate and personal than that?? and isn't the bible is God's message to everybody? Everyone should have an opinion don't shoot the caller's opinion down because he is not an expert.

[@Julian0101]

Because the caller is shooting at the experts, so kevin has a big burden if he want his opinion to have value and not just be a waste of the show's time.

[@davidbelway6076]

People that claim their opinion is indisputable fact simply because they can't comprehend the options to their argument leave the debater with no choice but to shut them down. How do you break free of a perpetual circle without turning off the power?

[@petercollier9073]

Watch this video again - the caller is never allowed to complete a sentence, he is just constantly interrupted because his thought process does not follow that of though who shalt not be named Dillahunty. I agree the caller had nothing worthy to say at least that I could understand but then again he was never really allowed to express a complete thought. Ted Cruz is a more reasonable debater than Dillahunty - ouch, that’s bad ….

[@norswil8763]

The show has many callers cued with better arguments, why give this guy the time to mumble out more nonsense when his argument was always understood and a nonstarter? Stopping him to clarify or redirect is essential to get anything from these confused theists.

[@shanewilson7994]

Maybe you should listen to it, because he was allowed multiple complete sentences, and then his claims were critiqued

[@grandsaint1832]

This pronoun shit is getting cringe.

[@cutlasssupreme6984]

I agree, I don’t understand why it’s necessary for this type of show.

[@linkeron1]

Honestly, I don’t give a shit about it. I just come here to watch the many shows to listen to Matt and the many topics I those shows.

[@scottjohnson7248]

People using "cringe" in that way is super cringe

[@dignerds]

"Pronouns he/him" 😂 So stupid to say that or that we think we have to

[@mr.mcbeavy1443]

Your name is generally male oriented yet your picture appears to be female. Do your prefer to be addressed as he or she?

[@Julian0101]

I agree, why should i say good morning or good afternoon too. So stupid we have to do it.

[@siubhan2047]

The real tragedy here is that it took me until 14:39 to notice the pronoun thing. More pandering.

[@frdml01]

"pronouns are he/him".... come on guys, really? You are starting this nonsense now too?

[@puckerings]

Imagine getting triggered by the fact a show takes half a second to acknowledge what each caller prefers to be called. Does the fact they tell you he wants to be called "Kevin" also trigger you, you poor little snowflake?

[@ookeekthelibrarian]

@@samuelcalderwood1379

[@frdml01]

@@samuelcalderwood1379 "Satan's agenda" that is even more nonsense. You CAN be whatever you want, but I get tired of making this all so prominent.

[@frdml01]

@@samuelcalderwood1379 check out some videos from this channel and start your critical thinking. You have clearly been indoctrinated with God and Satan stories, where there is no verifiable evidence to believe either exist.

[@frdml01]

@@samuelcalderwood1379 OK if you don't care for critical thinking, skepticism and the search for truth, that's your choice.