KeyForge | Game the Game

It’s time to open the vault! In this week’s Game the Game, our players are taking on KeyForge by Fantasy Flight Games! In this deck game Becca Scott, Kate Elliott, and Ruel Gaviola become Archons using unique sets of cards to craft the keys that open the vault.
Thanks to Asmodee for partnering with us on this video. Unlock KeyForge here: www.fantasyflightgames.com/en...
Tabletop games are super fun, but learning the complicated directions and rules can be a challenge. Becca Scott is your game tutor, explaining the game mechanics in an easy to follow way, so you can get to playing the games faster.
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[@jimmypraet]

Entertaining video and nice production value. Unfortunately, loads of rules mistakes: 16:20 Dextre goes on top of deck. 20:00 If a card says you can fight with a friendly creature, it doesn't have to be of the active house. You can use Scout to fight with the Raiding Knight. 23:57 He didn't have any amber when the first Raiding Knight was played. That's why he's got no amber on him. 24:18 Can't, John Smyth is elusive. 24:43 You get the amber first, then you execute the card effect. So she would lose the amber gained from the card, because she gets reduced to 5. 27:28 Can't, John Smyth is elusive. 27:48 You should receive 4 damage back from that fight, and 2 is absorbed by the armor. 37:30 That's how you would indicate that cards have taunt. 39:57 You can only return creatures with Arise, he also returned Mind Barb to his hand. 46:00 Zyzzix was powered up second time without archiving a creature 46:20 He should have already lost that chain the previous turn. 48:10 Can't use Umbra.. active house is Sanctum. 48:55 Champion Tabris did Fight and thus would've Captured an Amber. 49:30 Again, Arise only returns creatures. 51:42 He's playing the Arise here which he returned to his hand (but shouldn't have) with the other Arise. And Again, he's returning non-creature cards.

[@joshtaylor6137]

Yeah, I stopped watching because of this. They should delete it and do it again, getting the rules correct. Looks fun though.

[@jacobm954]

I was at the amber stealing be part when it was too much. Thanks for saving me the time on watching the rest.

[@jeffschauble2110]

Yeah, this was unwatchable. They clearly don't know the rules. Shame they got paid for this.

[@GVL42069]

Relax, nerds. It’s close enough.

[@joshtaylor6137]

I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. It's clear they love games and are doing a service to the community. Yes they get paid and I want them to do a better job, but I'd say they know the rules but messed up. Usually it's not super bad but this was.

[@neji2401]

By the way, after 1 month of extensive gameplay, i can't recomend this game enough. Buy a deck, it's amazing.

[@themris]

After watching this, my interest has gone from low to zero (nothing to do with the video, just seeing gameplay for the first time)

[@fixer10091994]

@@themris Agreed, just way too repetitive unless you decide to buy a lot of decks

[@codyhanson1344]

@@fixer10091994 that's with every trading card game

[@fixer10091994]

@@codyhanson1344 These days a game needs to be more than "just another x" to be successful

[@codyhanson1344]

@@fixer10091994 Keyforge isn't just another card game though, it's one of a kind. Being unique is kind of it's whole thing.

[@darkmole]

i am loving these people lol just started the game last night and im learning sooo much and i was even more happy to see kate appear (long time fan)

[@fabsap9329]

Incredibly stoked to start playing this game. Just ordered an old box of decks. This video is a perfect example of how to play in totally digestible and easily understandable ways. Great job, bubs.

[@midlifecoding]

More games with these two please. The chemistry between the three of you is amazing and so fun at watch!

[@robertahearne423]

It's strange but true that the reason I play Magic: The Gathering (nearly daily on Arena, since October '18) is one day perusing KZbin I saw, for the first time, an ebullient & strikingly beautiful redhead explaining the rules of the game. (Thank you, Becca Scott!) I love Becca's upbeat spirit & I am so glad she is involved with MTG & so many other games.

[@jamesdorrington721]

What a wonderful play thru, thanks guys learnt a lot and ordered my starter pack

[@williamsexton1389]

Even though there were many times where the rules were "bent", the video was still fun to watch

[@TheAmandarae007]

i believe the first raiding knight didnt have a aember is because when he was played Ruel didnt have any.

[@fedeh777]

Thats right, they cheated the guy

[@michaelgursky9711]

“Arise!” returns only creatures not all cards of the selected house.

[@robertrichardson3888]

Even if he did, he would not have had 6 amber for the doorstep to heaven to have taken effect. That kind of stuff happens all the times in Keyforge games, though, the first time the deck is used.

[@lokisato1796]

and in the same turn, if she got one aember from the action she would go to 6 aember and also be reduced to 5 by the action.

[@Fnoffen]

@@lokisato1796 Nope. Since the Amber removing effect was an action and was played and resolved first.

[@HalcyonDaz3]

Brought this game to fill in time for my near future covid-19 lockdown.

[@heroicnerd2463]

AWESOME GAMEEEEEE!! MORE PLEASE

[@DrLipkin]

I haven't kept tabs on Kate for a few years. Her accent has really changed.

[@billykidd8206]

you should check her on Overlord Zack's HyperRPG show 10 candles.

[@juulmorten]

This look like a fun game, might actually have a look at this

[@MinecraftIndiana]

It's really cheap to get into. It is only $10 a deck, which means $20 maximum to play if no one else around you has a deck. You can just make your own tokens to play with or use dice for casual play at home.

[@ZoidbergForPresident]

You may love or hate it. :P

[@neji2401]

It's cheap, deep and fun. Play on!

[@juulmorten]

I am hoping it comes out digital at some point, which it might. Not a lot of people near me plays any form of card game, they are all minecrafters :)

[@99smite]

I would really love to see Becca Scott at the Spiel convention in Essen, Germany. It is one of the largest expos for tabletop games and thousands of publishers and distributors present their game classics, and their newest products. You can meet many YT gaming bloggers, even Dice Tower were there... OK, 80% of the new games are trash, but that is the way the industry works, but yo ucan find so many jewels by rather unknown game designers, it is worth the trip... And it is mostly video game free iirc...

[@aloharay]

6:12 funny song reference lol I think there is a future for Becca being an MC at all my keyforge games, with or without the blue -joke train.

[@peperix]

Vault hunters!

[@aditmaryadi6678]

Becca is such a distraction ❤️

[@-homerow-]

good game!

[@madquest8]

Animated Becca winked at me! :)

[@jonathanshannon3456]

Reading what cards do is helpful...bc there was a lot of rules screws ups here

[@dastyni13]

Quite a lot. Feel like they should watch some how to play videos and play a few games before they try to teach the game. :/

[@roxors4678]

If you're watching this to learn a game you're doing it wrong.

[@neage7171]

Id like to see more keyforge play videos with this production quality... and of course the rules being enforced correctly

[@haruo20101]

House Dis' name should really be "Dormammu, I've Come to Bargain"

[@TheBioRules]

Around 16:00 when Dextre was destroyed he should have gone on top of the deck, per his Destroyed text.

[@gejyspa]

1) Ruel forgot to put Dextre back on top of his deck when he was destroyed. 2) Kate can use the Scout to fight with non-Untamed creatures. If an effect specifies "friendly creatures" it doesn't matter if they are in the house that's active or not. But she couldn't use it to fight with exhausted or stunned creatures. 3) Kate forgot to take her Aember with Doorstep to Heaven's play, as you noted, BUT its effect would then have immediately reduced her back to 5 4) as someone else commented, the reason the first Raiding Knight didn't capture was because Ruel had none at the time. 5) Kate's Raiding Knight will not kill John Smyth, because John Smyth has Elusive. She would have needed to use both Knights. 6 ) Kate's Raiding Knight shoud have taken 2 damage back from Nove Archaeologist 7) Just a clarification with chains -- you only lose a chain at the end of your turn if you *would have drawn* a card that turn, if you had no chains. 8) Kate apparently did NOT forget to take an Aember with Protect the Weak, although the actual taking was apparently edited out of the final video. 9) When Ruel reaped with Zyzzix the Many, he didn't take the Aember onscreen, (but the crew apparently did remember it) 10) Kate couldn't fight with Umbra, because she was house Sanctum that turn, not Shadows 11) I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure that Ruel returned not just creatures from Dis to his hand with Arise! He shouldn't have.

[@skarnak1]

Both times that Kate killed John Smyth were wrong too. They forget John Smyth has elusive, so wouldn't have died.

[@dastyni13]

Kate also attacked with Umbra during a sanctum turn. Arise only brings back creatures from the chosen house, not all cards.

[@davidharshman7645]

As far as not seeing the players adding Aember to their supplies, that's usually because Becca was doing it. And, since she is just barely off camera for all but the wide shots and when the camera is explicitly on her, you can usually only hear her doing it.

[@gejyspa]

@@davidharshman7645 Yeah, but she would also audibly announce when she was doing it, since she was in "teaching" mode.

[@ThomasG1971]

I would love to see this played again on here... different Decks but same people... or whatever lol

[@Nartsv]

24:15 the previous raiding knight was played when he didn’t have amber. Thanks for just stealing it though. 27:43 raiding knight should have taken 2 damage

[@kradrol]

so there were many minor rule breaks that wouldn't have affected the game too much. but 1 MAJOR rule break that definitely pushed the game in ruel's favor. namely, the way he played arise. not only should it NOT have brought back his mind barb, but it most definitely should not have brought up the other arise, allowing him to bring back all of the cards from logos as well.

[@davidharshman7645]

Yeah...but then, she also shouldn't have cleared his Marsians off the board by ignoring their Evasion (thus ending a very effective Marsian engine) either...not to mention all the extra Aember she captured/got/stole when she shouldn't have...so, one could argue it kinda balanced out.

[@kradrol]

@@davidharshman7645 yes. but that wouldn't have effected the game much, because she would have destroyed both jons with her raiding knights. that's why I said it's a minor thing. I also didn't mention dextre going back ontop of the deck, because (if i'm being honest) dextre isn't exactly an overpowered card, and playing it over and over really doesn't have much affect on things.

[@Xaladen]

Any chance of doing Gloomhaven?

[@mikehancoski]

with all the rules mistakes omg would you even be able to watch it

[@vordaq]

OwO I can't believe you got Time Leap Girl

[@Oku_Skitz]

"Porn Sacrifice" can't we sacrifice something less important

[@lylewilliams1371]

The best Keyforge teaching video I’ve seen. Particularly liked the way card play was explained as the game progressed. Thank you for posting this video!

[@dastyni13]

Now if only they could get the rules right. :)

[@Xpulsion03]

When you declare a ‘house’ can you only play cards from that house that turn?? Haven’t really payed attention 😅

[@nickfanzo]

Yes, usually

[@littRandom]

so many rules were broken this game

[@danteshydratshirt2360]

that is par for the course in game the game

[@nickfanzo]

Seems to happen a lot in videos on this game, a shame

[@Crosbie71]

So many times that guardian demon could have healed/dealt.

[@DarkBunnyLord]

Missed some rules here, thought I’d list them in the order of which they where played wrong for anyone interested in the game: -Dexter should have gone on top of the deck when it died do to its “destroyed” effect. -Doorstep to Heaven would give the aember first then reduce her to 5 since that would put her as 6, instead they did it out of order as you gain the aember before the effect goes off. Ie aember gain on the sides of cards is always ordered before effects of said card. -The first Raiding Knight shouldn’t have later retconned capturing amber when i was played there was no aember to capture. -The chain tracker works in another way as well. In some formats (since decks are random and your opponent might have a better deck) you can start the game by “bidding chains” to play your opponents deck, ie you can offer to take a certain number of chains and you switch decks for that game, your opponent can then counter to play their own deck by bidding more chains and so on and so fort until someone conceds. This helps balance out the random decks. Similarly in official tournaments decks win loss rates are tracked online and decks can gain automatic chains for said tournaments to balance them out. -Protect the weak had an aember gain that was missed. -Arise only returns creatures of the chosen house not actions or artifacts so he wouldn’t have gotten mind barb back. -zzyx the many would only gain three power the second time IF he revealed and archived a creature from his hand, this is clarified since the card preceded the “gain 3 power” text with “if you do”. -She then picks sanctum, attacks with sanctum and then attacks with Umbra who belongs to house shadows. You can’t do this as you can only use/play/discard from the house you choose at the start of your turn unless you have a card that explicitly states otherwise (such as a card with an Omni use or something that states you may use another house in some way). -When champion Tabras attacked it should have captured an aember. -Arise was misplayed again returning non-creatures to his hand. -Mind barb should have given an aember (granted he shouldn’t have even had mind barb as arise wouldn’t have returned it). -Arise is misplayed yet again, it shouldn’t have returned twin bolt emission. It’s like they didn’t even read the card that clearly says “return all CREATURES from the chosen house”. -Niffle queens effect was a constant ability not a “play” ability meaning when she leaves play that niffle ape no longer has that “constant” power buff removing those power cards from it. I may have missed some things but given how many misplays there where I think I did enough.

[@gregputnam7243]

Wow it surprises me that this is a summoning card game with no mana. There are a couple of turns that were stupidly broken but could have been negated if there was an energy cost or mana cost

[@teogiovannimarcigliano5967]

The other raiding knight did not capture because there wasn't any amber to capture when it was played...

[@bloodwolf1088]

If one wanted to join/ work for geek and sundry how would they go about it?

[@danteshydratshirt2360]

move to USA be a hipster or pretty young lady or both

[@TonytheTono]

All these folks complaining about rules being broken act like that's not a common thing for folks that play a tabletop for the first time. And have forgotten the days of Will Wheaton.

[@thehumangerm]

They are literally being payed to teach people the game. The host should be playing at least one test match. At the same time it is a sign of a game with an over complicated ruleset.

[@TonytheTono]

@@thehumangerm are the instructions valid? If so, that's good enough for me.

[@danteshydratshirt2360]

@@TonytheTono so you are ok with substandard instructions or teaching?

[@TonytheTono]

@@danteshydratshirt2360 the instructions are at the beginning, playing of the game occurs after. These are separate. In fact, the instructions are initially submitted in its own video.

[@davidharshman7645]

@CitySlickerHillBilly the trouble comes from the fact that only a vague overview happens at the beginning of the video. A LOT of the rules are only mentioned during the gameplay.

[@grelgen]

is it safe to assume those qr codes have already been scanned?

[@kodyotter7598]

I tried to look up the deck lists and couldn't see them as registered decks....

[@Monkeyshaman]

I don't want to be the guy who in five years turn my home upside down looking for decks I may or may not have scanned from the net.

[@grelgen]

@@Monkeyshaman but you are leaving all those valuable aember shards on the table. I tried to scan them, the camera is too unfocused for the app to read

[@michaelgursky9711]

Would someone scan the decks into the Keyforge app so we can see the card lists? 🙂

[@iceman937]

@ 48:11 she can't use umbra cause she already used the sanctum house

[@davidthenewtheologian7757]

Ember imp doesn’t have reap on the card. Can you reap Any card for aember ? I thought 😊buy cards with reap can be reaped for aember?

[@serrademers6047]

Any creature can reap for aember. Only the ones with a bold "Reap" ability get the additional benefit when they reap.

[@nickfanzo]

Dexter should go on top of deck when destroyed.

[@cleverestx]

I noticed that mistake too.

[@cleverestx]

They realized this mistake @ 56:30

[@nickfanzo]

@@cleverestx thanks for pointing that out

[@williamregister7720]

Spot mistakes but still good.

[@caode9385]

I mean, the girl who leapt through time was an anime. Close enough?

[@imkluu]

It was a very good one, as well.

[@danteshydratshirt2360]

a live action film version was made too

[@PipeSmokingBoardgamer]

"Porn sacrifice"? Classic.

[@nightcatarts]

25:33 I suppose that would be.. splash damage? Sorry.

[@ZoidbergForPresident]

Gosh it seems I can't not hate Keyforge. :P

[@ezamal89]

Match the following words: 2:52

[@danielsidek1110]

I always can see awsome boared game gameplay on this channel. 1 command#

[@obsidiansiriusblackheart]

7:33 104 quadrillion

[@lokisato1796]

"i got your both backs"...stabs ruel like 5 times .kkkk

[@Olivep3a_]

I got into board games by watching Table Top. :( this doesn't feel the same.

[@mikehancoski]

@thebeccascott you guys are the best and I love your videos but... could you pretty, pretty, pretty, please with sugar on top redo this one with out all the broken rules? This is going to confuse a lot of new players

[@bittertea]

More Betrayal Legacy please. :P

[@Neurotripsicks]

Where is Wil???

[@VVarlock_]

third

[@martinpoletti7845]

you broke a bit of too many rules to list them all lol but well it's a friendly game, but one thing arise does not bring actions, so it doesn't get back the discard card or other arise, but both sides broke a lot of rules so... fun game any way

[@ImaginaryMdA]

Oh, honey. Periodically little, honey? That's me on a friday night, honey, ho-ney.

[@bittertea]

For this particular type of game, I feel the 3rd person/referee needs to take a more chill role with some reminders, explanations and elaborations. I don't think they should be expected to entertain everyone. The focus should be on the two players.

[@MichaeLXRay12]

Both of those Women are HOT! 😍

[@FuncleChuck]

OOF I get rules errors, but you have a referee/host, and the magic of a video camera for instant replay / review. Delet plz

[@faustogunlock3861]

While the many rules mistakes made the video a little too painful to watch, what I found to be the most unforgivable thing is that no one registered the decks on the Keyforge website/app. That's just irresponsible.

[@jeremyrauch7479]

Ahhh all the misplays

[@rollingwithrob6579]

Cash Grab: The Gathering looks great!

[@lasko24]

How is it anymore a cash grab than MTG and other games where people keep buying cards and decks in the epic quest to build the one deck to rule them all

[@joeysharp9058]

All the misplays

[@Fnoffen]

So. MANY. MISTAKES!!!

[@rookieewookiee9725]

He won even though a few mistakes where Made in her advantage.

[@paulbadics4485]

Only watched like twenty minutes of this video. I "love" how Becca is supposed to be 'ref' and just not doing well at it. Just couldn't watch it since the rules kept being ignored.

[@Jeffs40K]

wow this game is unbalanced as hell. hers can defend and attack but his just keeps coming back and limits her casting. , or maybe its just the Rules was so Screwed up the whole video. this should really be played again after you read the rules and practice, OH and please bring back the cute Blond more often, love her Ausy Accent.

[@jessfritz8604]

Part of the chain mechanic exists to handicap overpowered decks by players agreeing to add chains pre-game (obviously you would need to play a few games to rate the decks' relative effectiveness).

[@gustavosblack5556]

only good "plastic" presentation with so many mistakes.

[@JoaoSilva-xn9nm]

Damn a lot of cheating going on here, so many card efects were ignored... like, Dexter should go to the top of the deck when destroyed; 24:30 that creature did not capture an ember bc when it was played there was no amber to capture, plus you ignored jhon smith's ablity to ignore the first damage dealt every turn. I basicly stoped whatching the video there

[@danteshydratshirt2360]

i would not define it as cheating more like ignorance

[@kingpearlshine]

Too many mistakes. If this is sponsored content, it really should make sure the rules are followed correctly.

[@jasontharris7575]

Agonizing to watch. So many mistakes. The dude got robbed on more than one occasion. You gotta make sure you know what your doing before you post a video like this.

[@davidharshman7645]

It took him a half hour into the game, but Ruel did eventually rob her back by using Arise to grab Action cards...including his other Arise. That probably balanced all the times Kate robbed him...whether it was by wiping his Marsians by ignoring their defenses or by just literally stealing Aember without a card effect that allowed it (or in spite of a card effect that prevented it? whichever...).

[@brianseverson3399]

Yeah this wildly inaccurate game play. I love game the game, but I literally had to stop watching due to all the rules mistakes.

[@elsewhereprince3969]

For being a show about playing games you guys suck at rules. You guys break rules all the time. It makes me sad.

[@lpsoldier78]

This is the best and worst Keyforge video I have seen to date. Best because...well...Becca is super hot(like OMG hot) and worst because of all the rules messed up.

[@makariosagios]

This is just a copy of another game. Just gonna state... If you all wanted to play MTG then just go play MTG.

[@black.I0tus]

Nah man, I love MTG but this and that have so many different things going on for them. Keyforge is made by Richard Garfield though, if you didn't know.

[@davidharshman7645]

Yeah...not the same AT ALL...anyone who's played MtG could tell you a MASSIVE number of MAJOR differences.

[@jonnyace9198]

i can see where you could draw similarities however the pacing in this game is entirely different from mtg.

[@lazulin]

The target audience of this game is totally different. This game is designed for people who don't want to build decks. It's much more casual in nature. You grab a pair of decks, determine if any chains are needed due to their power differences, and get going. This game is meant to appeal to your more typical board gamer rather than a MTG player (although they might enjoy it for a more lighthearted experience).

[@MJDJ145]

Wow she is unbearable

[@BouncingTribbles]

Copies Magic, creates "unique" game

[@jessfritz8604]

It didn't copy Magic significantly more than any of the other dozens of CCG's which use similar mechanics. This one at least doesn't have a resource pool, like so many of FFG's card games, replaced with the rather interesting "active house" mechanic. The most "unique" aspect of Keyforge is that it dumps deck building in favor of unique pre-con decks, which makes it more accessible to casual players. Just like DND gets credit for inventing the mechanics skeleton of table top (and by extension VG) RPG's, MTG gets credit for originating CCG play structure. MTG is great, variations on the the idea can also be great.

[@lasko24]

It is created by the same guy so being a little similar can be expected

[@millersj]

"porn sacrifice"!?! What kind of savage, unethical, unreasonable, unhealthy Freudian slip was that?

[@danteshydratshirt2360]

Keyforge = cash making gimmick offering nothing new really. Smashup as a duel essentially

[@Sam-vk8xd]

I’m not a fan of this show and can ever hardly finish their videos, they’re just not very fun. But this is one of THE worst they’ve ever done. So many rules mistakes. Wow.