How to ACTUALLY lane as Pos 5

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KheZu

KheZu

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@LoLaSn
@LoLaSn 9 ай бұрын
reality: You leave your carry on the lane to help elsewhere, your carry immediately dies
@unknownsource1485
@unknownsource1485 8 ай бұрын
typical sea moments and then says "end" if they die lol
@justpoorie6404
@justpoorie6404 8 ай бұрын
AHAHAHAH that's so true, that makes me cry😂
@Just_Van1
@Just_Van1 8 ай бұрын
Make pull before leave your carry and he'll be fine under tower 🤓
@Horrificial
@Horrificial 7 ай бұрын
so true, especially these dumb europe servers, cuz i main pos4-5 i set them up good then go to gank other lanes and tell them, they dive solo and still die like tf??
@johnong9860
@johnong9860 7 ай бұрын
​@@unknownsource1485 You still make SEA server jokes? When it is proven this things happen all around other servers ..
@pcxxy
@pcxxy 10 ай бұрын
Clear, concise and not overwhelming As someone who recently switched to support main, these are the things I'm trying to work and improve on
@luishurtado2170
@luishurtado2170 10 ай бұрын
Another tip that doesn't necessarily fit the "laning phase" but will get you a lot of mmr: STOP straight tp'ing after respawning. SAVE your TPs! You may not be fully aware how important this is, but seriously, it makes the game easier for you and your teammates. THINK for a moment. CHECK MAP: is any other lane at risk in the let's say 0 to 30 secs due to potential rotations? (specially when enemy cores reach lvl 6, dangerous runes, etc.) - IF yes, WALK back to YOUR lane. - IF you see HIGH risk at say offlane and you somehow figured out say mid lane is coming to gank, TP there already! - IF you are not sure what lane is at high risk AND you know you tp'ing back to your lane makes no difference, just WALK anywhere you see fit better, at least you have your TP ready. Basically, try to save your TP as much as you can. You may only insta tp back to your lane on very very early game.
@Cricket0021
@Cricket0021 9 ай бұрын
​@@luishurtado2170the half pull is really where i'm struggling at. I always end up pulling the entire wave
@leothelion3913
@leothelion3913 10 ай бұрын
1) Buy stats and regen to win trades and enable your carry 2) Always block their big camp and unblock your small camp 3) Trade with pos 4 if you are stronger. If not - harass their pos 3 4) Half pull 2-3 creeps on small camp if lane is pushed 5) 2:40 Prepare to get lotus 6) 5:00 Look for places where you can rotate and help your teammates 7) 5:40 Prepare to help get the power rune 8) 6:30 Prepare to go for enemy wisdom rune if you have a stun
@DotaCinema
@DotaCinema 9 ай бұрын
Perfect, now I can finally have a chance of winning when I get pos5 when I queue all roles.
@KheZu
@KheZu 9 ай бұрын
KEKW
@irsegromero1338
@irsegromero1338 Ай бұрын
@@KheZu why no more videos
@RaspberrysiR
@RaspberrysiR 10 ай бұрын
For Me as a support player on low mmr your video helped me to think more about supporting and how to do it right thank you for your commenting and telling about what moves they do and for what !
@SirActionSlacks
@SirActionSlacks 10 ай бұрын
It finally happened the pros have discovered the patented siractionslacks half pull
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
🥸 slacks god
@immagonko4261
@immagonko4261 7 ай бұрын
What are saying, he's a toxic annoying woman-like nerd too? :(
@Lsc95
@Lsc95 7 ай бұрын
SLACKS WHEN NEW VIDEO
@3arooshy465
@3arooshy465 10 ай бұрын
another thing to note, the type of carry is also important, if your carry is a natural pusher such as naga or you pick a support warlock, i personally don’t recommend blocking their camp since your gonna need it yourself because thhe waves are always constantly gonna be pushed in
@kiploism
@kiploism 10 ай бұрын
why would u want to push the lanes at the first place as warlock and naga? if u clear the waves so fast, enemy will have free waves. the idea is to reduce the offlane impact while ur farming
@3arooshy465
@3arooshy465 10 ай бұрын
@@kiploism normally no one would want to push the lanes, but naga or walrock or jakiro will inevitably push the waves due to their abilities (maybe jakiro not if they use their skills without affecting the wave) but for naga its really inevitable, if she wants to harass enemies she will have to send illusions at them and hit the wave constantly to keep proc riptides, but regardless of that she is a hero that can clear jungle and a wave at the same time at minute 4 if she has a decent or a winning matchup. if her matchup is good you now harrasing the enemy and getting all the wave and also farming a jungle at the same time so yes you may be pushing the wave but also farming jungle at the same time while they are being harassed and only getting lane creeps sry for long reply but i had to explain all the details
@kiploism
@kiploism 10 ай бұрын
​@@3arooshy465 the offlane still gonna fat if u give free waves
@3arooshy465
@3arooshy465 10 ай бұрын
@@kiploism and the solution to that is my main comment itself, don’t block the big camp because your gonna use it to kill your own wave or at least deny two of your creeps, the lane will restart to being close to ur tower and gonna harass and farm the wave witht procing riptides and rinse and repeat, im not a pro or immortal player but im sying all this because i am an advanced naga player myself
@hkscfreak
@hkscfreak 10 ай бұрын
Came here as a warlock spammer, don't block the hard camp. Maybe at first but if it expires or they deward it it's fine. Let them pull and then fatal bonds the enemy to all the creeps and then upheaval. Watch offlane explode. Sure, your carry might have missed a wave but now the offlaner is dead or low HP and can't even touch a creep.
@LemonIced_T
@LemonIced_T 10 ай бұрын
Genuinely one of the most useful guides I've seen. Please do more like this for the other positions!
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
will do!
@LemonIced_T
@LemonIced_T 10 ай бұрын
@@KheZu Hell yeah, can’t wait!
@noir9542
@noir9542 10 ай бұрын
First thing I had to say as a response to this video is that it caters only to people in the higher skill bracket. If you commit so much gold to supporting in lower brackets, you're going to find yourself losing in every single game, with a few exceptions. The reason for this is that pos 1 and 2 in higher skill brackets can take full advantage of rotations and pulls to pull ahead of their opponent laners. Every advantage created will result in a positive outcome. However, I can guarantee that if a WR went mid in the lower skill brackets, did exactly what Sneyking did, DP would not have died because the follow-up from Invoker and NP would've been non-existent. This is simply because they lack the presence of mind and/skill of players in a higher bracket. You would've achieved nearly nothing, your pos 1 would've died after being left alone for over 30 secs and you would now be at a gold and exp disadvantage against the opponent pos 3 and 4. All advice isn't good advice for everyone and it's prudent to consider all factors before trying to inculcate something new. Dependance on your pos 1 and 2 should increase proportionately with MMR.
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
i dont fully understand your first point if you use so much gold on supporting its not good for you? These starting items are nearly the best for every lane, no matter what your carry does. You should always look to who you can help most, but with this attitude youre not going to get very far i think ideally you want to give yourself the best possible chance to win any game 👍 Its not just your carry who can take Advantage of a won lane, you can too. Try it!
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
main point for me being, this video is for any mmr 😅 but you can skip some of the points if you think they are less likely to work, hope the other ones are useful though
@noir9542
@noir9542 10 ай бұрын
@@KheZu It's quite tedious to have to explain something so obvious but it displays what was already clearly apparent in your videos. You don't seem to understand factors beyond what you see in a skill bracket of players who are practiced and efficient. Most of your tips are largely useless in the lower skill brackets. If Dota 2 was such a simple game as to the extent your subpar intelligence can comprehend, everyone in every skill bracket who used your strategy would win their lane, which is a statistical impossibility. Carries are not always good, and you will lose the game against a support that chose to make items like Rod of Atos or Aether Lens over spending it all on support items. They understand that carries in their skill bracket are nowhere near capable enough to carry 4 other people, a concept outside of your capability of understanding. You seem to think of Dota as an ideal world where every pos 1 and 2 will do nothing wrong, which is incredibly stupid. Learn to see things more than what they are at face value. You won't go very far otherwise.
@jayasuriyaj3470
@jayasuriyaj3470 9 ай бұрын
saw this video... tried to do every thing as mentioned... our team lost in 25 mins.
@TheFlatzz
@TheFlatzz 8 ай бұрын
on how many games tho? just 1?^^
@sethroberts3634
@sethroberts3634 4 ай бұрын
You must not have done it then
@louisbianchi-cm7kx
@louisbianchi-cm7kx 3 күн бұрын
@@TheFlatzz you just usually log off after a game like that cos of all time wasted. usually if i play bad and i loose i queue immediately to improve, if i do a really good game struggling and i get griefed i just log off for that day cos i've learn that loosing streak comes from that days
@amglolification
@amglolification 10 ай бұрын
Sneyking such a pro, at level 3 his Crystal Maiden becomes a Windranger
@komilovalyukobondmantaj232
@komilovalyukobondmantaj232 10 ай бұрын
"there is no excuse". Meanwhile me ench level 3 with a big creep: i missed the part where that is my problem
@komilovalyukobondmantaj232
@komilovalyukobondmantaj232 10 ай бұрын
@abdurrahim618 sometimes too far to walk there
@AlexVilla88
@AlexVilla88 10 ай бұрын
If it's not your problem don't worry about it.. avoid the player gl next... That's just how it is...
@Personnoname114
@Personnoname114 10 ай бұрын
That’s why ench is favored by pro player, you can destroy early game with limited support item, you have free heal and every time the enemy try to pull, you just enchant the creep and farm them without spending 50 gold to prevent that
@knkaitlog
@knkaitlog 7 ай бұрын
​@@Personnoname114pros actually block their own hard camp against ench or they will get fucked. the time for ench to walk to another camp to get a creep is important
@99savage23
@99savage23 10 ай бұрын
The content is getting better and better, keep it up man!
@1ts_Leen0
@1ts_Leen0 8 ай бұрын
This video was so frickin useful. How I've not known the proper lane position is beyond me. Thank you Khezu!
@Nihhuz
@Nihhuz 10 ай бұрын
Wow. Never understood what should I do as pos five. the way you just explained it is pure value.
@daleross3052
@daleross3052 10 ай бұрын
Clear and concise lesson 👌
@just_shai
@just_shai 10 ай бұрын
Really helpful tips. Some are pure basics but we forget these little things that make all the difference.
@zl90jx
@zl90jx 10 ай бұрын
Your critical analysis and ability to highlight the takeaways is godlike. Thank you for this clean-and-pristine quality content
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
appreciate your comment
@bearmanjon_bmj
@bearmanjon_bmj 7 ай бұрын
Okay, I knew a lot of this already, but HALF-PULLING seems like a genuinely valid tactic. Thanks for putting stuff out like this!
@Gonkcal
@Gonkcal 10 ай бұрын
I loved this video. It's just pure Khezu: friendly, straight to the point, ready to follow... Thanks khezu
@AToyGoat
@AToyGoat 10 ай бұрын
Love these! Would love one on playing the lane as a meele support, especially vs ranged heroes! I've always struggled laning/positioning in sitations like that
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
Will make sure to add that to the list Generally this one is either about 1) soaking pressure with heroes like undying or 2) if you play tusk, you want to use fog a lot and try to apply pressure with tag team or lvlup timings to get kills
@engel1990
@engel1990 10 ай бұрын
The best educational content out there rn, thanks bro
@rumham3011
@rumham3011 7 ай бұрын
This is straight up the best and most concise pos 5 guide I've ever seen. Nice 👍
@filteroxic
@filteroxic 9 күн бұрын
i wish u the best khezu as an old dota2 player i can see how greatly ur content can help the community
@yourfairygodmanhwa
@yourfairygodmanhwa 8 ай бұрын
I learned a lot more in this 6-min video than all those games I was on. Lol. Good stuff!
@profess0rop
@profess0rop 10 ай бұрын
This is the best channel to have concise and easily applicable dota knowledge imo, thanks khezu.
@James-uf9ct
@James-uf9ct 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Man! This Video with other Pos 5 videos help me out a lot
@oskarkugelberg9738
@oskarkugelberg9738 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much this is great! Staying active as pos 5 and helping other lanes is what I love about the new size of the map and the objectives. Would be great to know when to pull and how to do half pull. I tend to not pull so much as I prioritize harassing the enemy instead
@freshnner3099
@freshnner3099 10 ай бұрын
Man, your guides are on another top-tier level. Keep it up, my dude!
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mr.chicken9376
@mr.chicken9376 10 ай бұрын
Easiest subscribe of my life. Looking forward to more of your content, KheZu!
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@manuelaranguri630
@manuelaranguri630 10 ай бұрын
Hope to see you at dreamleague​@@KheZu
@Arddy
@Arddy 7 ай бұрын
I like this Dota how-to more than many others. It's short and straight to the point - IDK mf's out there thinking posting an entire 50 minute match is helpful (it's the equivalent of 'hey you wanna go be good? just watch me play'). Your video did something they also don't normally do; you provide insight as to why you do things and what goes through your mind. TY!
@NoNamedPlease
@NoNamedPlease 6 ай бұрын
would love to see a video on how to position yourself in lane as melee support and other combinations of ranged-melee enemies. this was great but its a vacuum of ranged 5 vs melee 3
@Cricket0021
@Cricket0021 9 ай бұрын
This is a very solid advice. I'm currently on an 11 game winning streak just by abusing this trick. I go into games just dedicated to not let the enemy offlane get the hard camp. Just keep blocking the camp until minute 5 mark where most of the time my pos 1 is ready to jungle and just dip in an out of lane to catch creepwave
@udatchi
@udatchi 10 ай бұрын
What do u think about stacking the easy camp and just killing the whole wave? I usually half pull if the enemy lane is strong but if its weak i just try to stack and deny the entire wave
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
stacking S tier play if you can
@ASOCIEDADEINDUSTRIALESEUFUTURO
@ASOCIEDADEINDUSTRIALESEUFUTURO 9 ай бұрын
Thats a Big Brain play
@papajohn4689
@papajohn4689 6 ай бұрын
0:10 where is this picture from and where can I get it without text?
@hemopubgm4755
@hemopubgm4755 10 ай бұрын
Thanks bro, whoever can play pos 5, is a a really good at pos 1 / 2 ❤
@awaysosmani3220
@awaysosmani3220 10 ай бұрын
True
@awaysosmani3220
@awaysosmani3220 10 ай бұрын
I do both pos1 and 5
@AlexLong98
@AlexLong98 10 ай бұрын
I have trouble with half pulling the small camp a lot of the time, is there any way I can guarantee that the wave will split in half? Is there a specific time I should aggro the creeps?
@skyblizter
@skyblizter 10 ай бұрын
try do it at second 20 each time you pull
@axel_person
@axel_person 10 ай бұрын
try to pull at any time. Just think about their "attack" landing on you. thats what makes it aggro
@parmenasparmenas001
@parmenasparmenas001 10 ай бұрын
just practice bro, you can make own custom game or a.i. it's just the feels to do it, thats work for me atleast
@revankzn
@revankzn 10 ай бұрын
there are a trick actually - you need to take 1st wave of attacks from camp and stay still, on 2nd wave of attack from small camp you has to be behind your ranged creep in around 100 units to pull 2 creeps from creep-wave (1 ranged and 1 melee) or to be in 200 units to pull single ranged creep
@ethanyolme8041
@ethanyolme8041 10 ай бұрын
You can always first stack at minute 2 than pull u can deny 2 or 3 wave creep if enemy was bad
@musiclight3457
@musiclight3457 10 ай бұрын
Nice!! So easy to do and so to the point. Thanks for the tips - it's worth its weight in gold! I would love to see a short guide like this for every role :)
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
Will look to do that asap!
@GenjaOrigins
@GenjaOrigins 10 ай бұрын
good job i searched a lot for play early lane@@KheZu . Maybe a single pull to push wave naturally min2. ward at 5-6 min top left of bountry rune to see roaming enemies woud complete this a bit more. Maybe when carry goes woods single pull to farm under tower for safety cause it will push wave but who cares you just want the gold xp safe under tower. When leave core eg axe with vanguard so you need leave him maybe. mm if catapults are in other lane you go push . Maybe just leaving commend here if anyone sees. I dont know what is missing im trying to figure it out.
@koroll_rakov
@koroll_rakov 5 ай бұрын
pretty helpfull, especially part about timings and pull - half-pull, thanks
@atticussicking7951
@atticussicking7951 10 ай бұрын
Amazing content KheZu, we all really appreciate it! Could you make a video explaining how to play the midgame as a support? I'm good at following your tips in the laning phase and I win most of my lanes, but I feel completely lost in the midgame. I feel like I always make the wrong decision. For example - If I smoke with my mid/offlaner, we get wiped more often than not.
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
I already have a little bit of a followup ready for the future. Before uploading , since it will take a long time, ill try to give you quick advice Generally you can 2 modes in Dota which keep fluctuating back and forth Agressive and defensive You are skywrath/snapfire/grim, most of the time u wanna play agro and help get kills with your mid or offlaner if they are ready. inbetween cooldowns you can play defensive and protect your cores or place wards If you are a hero like SD/venge/warlock and there are no agro plays currently, look to enable your cores by helping them farm (break smokes, stack) untill theres a timing and go back to mode 1 (agro)
@kafi_99
@kafi_99 5 ай бұрын
Hey! I know this is an old video, but just wanted to drop my appreciation still. Very informative video, while still keeping it short and simple. Good memes too. Thanks!
@heychuunibyoumaru
@heychuunibyoumaru 9 ай бұрын
This is perfect as I practice pos5 and maining support.
@eStoky23
@eStoky23 10 ай бұрын
Best basic build for pos5 is for me: 1 set of tangoes, 2 sentries, stick, 2 branches and faerie fire. But there are couple of rules I figure out way, way too late in my dota life (6k games played). 1. 95% of games you dont need mana regen item from start of the game. You have full mana pool, and you have one spell, so you can't burn it all in 1-2 minutes in the game. 1st courier trip can handle it. 2. use your courier asap. Right after bounty runes you have extra approx 100-150 gold to play with. If you use it right away you have adventage 3. harrass is priority no.1 like 95% of the time. you can pull, you can last hit far away creep, but you MUST harras and trade hits. 4. Never underestimate additional regen. Don't try to save money on it. Get tangos, salve, clarity, mango in time, not when you are out and have like 20% of HP. 5. Infused Raindrop is BiS in 90% games as pos5 in early game. It gives you like 5-6 extra stenght worth of HP (bracer) in fight. And mana regen of sages mask. It is retarded how good it is.
@alm5851
@alm5851 10 ай бұрын
Bro amazing content! Thank you!
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@masyafoxi3598
@masyafoxi3598 5 ай бұрын
The level of play in different countries is different. In Russia, the 5th position buys one blue ward to unward the small camp, and block the big one with himself, then stack the small one at the second minute, pull the big one to the side to block it again. At the third minute, pull and collect a full pack
@mythicalentity
@mythicalentity 10 ай бұрын
Straightforward and insightful. Loving the guides!
@MegaJackolope
@MegaJackolope 10 ай бұрын
This was so good. You a goat, KheZu :D
@lostiego
@lostiego 10 ай бұрын
You could also touch the topics of how better to use your resources on lane, on how to trade with pos 4 and when. How not to waste your spells sometimes, since that opens a window for enemy duo to kill you or your carry. Which items you priorities buying first minutes of laning etc. Great vid regardless
@erenyeager1270
@erenyeager1270 Ай бұрын
I only play pos 5 and most of the time playing solo. Saw this video when im still in Legends bracket. Tried to do things you said. Although not 100% in each game..but it helps a lot. Now im in divine bracket. Thanks man. 👍
@SuperLeutu
@SuperLeutu 10 ай бұрын
more support episodes likes this would be awesome, thank you
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
will do!
@Hybbaron
@Hybbaron 9 ай бұрын
That was awesome, getting back at dota, contents like this helps a lot
@deanwin9595
@deanwin9595 4 ай бұрын
Clear and concise Lesson, I want to know more about supports please, what build we need to do or what item is the best for every hero suport. Thanks😊😊😊❤
@legion719retort3
@legion719retort3 9 ай бұрын
This is the best 5 pos tutorial, that I’ve ever seen!
@Yoppppol
@Yoppppol 10 ай бұрын
this channel deserve more views and subs
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
🥹
@jontylerlud
@jontylerlud 3 ай бұрын
This is a great video! Just wanted to know if getting the wisdom rune is that much of a hindrance for the enemy if they end up killing you after you get it? That’s xp and gold for them after all
@markos635567
@markos635567 10 ай бұрын
At 1:20 you divide the lane into sides, one facing the edge of the map and the other the main jungle. You then mention that the stronger support usually occupies the main jungle side. A thing that I've noticed over the years, however, is that the stronger support might try and come to the other side of the lane to create a fight. This then prompts the weaker support to maneuver back and then to the opposite side to evade direct confrontation, and this can repeat, creating a little dance of hide and seek in-between of pulling and harassing etc. Good supports should be prepared for this and adapt, going to meet the weaker support (occasionally) if stronger (to catch them off guard) or evading direct confrontation if weaker. In any case this wastes time for the weaker support, which means that if timed right, it can either get a kill or mess up some important timing. In other words the stronger support can use this tactic to create additional pressure that isn't inherent to the lane dynamics.
@vcarrascoring
@vcarrascoring 10 ай бұрын
Incredible guide. Thank you so much. Could you explain what to do after minute seven as well?
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
Will be a follow up video on this topic soon!
@salmansohail5685
@salmansohail5685 10 ай бұрын
REALLY helpful! thanks! would love to know more about mid game pos 4 n 5
@spiritualplayboy911
@spiritualplayboy911 10 ай бұрын
Quality Content! The video is short but includes all the important tips. That's what I was looking for. 👌
@bob_mikhail
@bob_mikhail 10 ай бұрын
Would love more content on supports: how to play after min 7?)
@nimaghaemmaghami1389
@nimaghaemmaghami1389 10 ай бұрын
Bro this clip was awesome ty .please bring more of these ❤❤ Actually I was looking for a guide like to this from a pro player, good content 😮
@ShiraoriSs
@ShiraoriSs 10 ай бұрын
Мегахарош, лучший гайд на ютубе на данное время, спасибо)
@anurag7573
@anurag7573 8 ай бұрын
Thnak you so fkng much!!!! these are the tips & guide we newbies need to improve in the game!!!
@МаксотАргимбаев-я8э
@МаксотАргимбаев-я8э 8 ай бұрын
The purchase from Snake is really very cool. I have everything the same, but in addition to 3 trees I also take tango and mango
@DRX_Amade
@DRX_Amade 9 ай бұрын
3:10 "You are getting more Gold & Experience" My brain: GOLDEN EXPERIENCE, JOJO REFERENCE 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 💯💯
@rico_felipe
@rico_felipe 7 ай бұрын
Im a new player, and this video made my experience so much better, thanks for it
@Momo_AjHu
@Momo_AjHu 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully i can stepped up my game with the tips. Very useful and informative. Thanks man
@koi6858
@koi6858 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Been struggling to gain MMR here in Guardian rank 😅 this is a big help!
@toxicity791
@toxicity791 9 ай бұрын
Video is great Only thing I sort of disagreed with was the hard stance against wind lace. I think in certain matchups it’s worth the early buy, particularly pubs where the opponents are often unhinged and less predictable as a result.
@Greenouinos
@Greenouinos 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very informative! Would love tips for pos 3 & 4 🎉
@dkflbckfd34htu
@dkflbckfd34htu 3 ай бұрын
very helpful, makes me think what can and what should i do as pos 5, btw always played pos 1, so i actually understand what i want to see from my pos 5.
@narva5440
@narva5440 10 ай бұрын
Someone I admire very much, you could call him a dota intellectual -- a titan--, once said "NEVER LEAVE LANE ON 5!!!".
@AlexJ-sv4ic
@AlexJ-sv4ic 5 ай бұрын
Im new, does that mean at 5 min or as a position 5?
@narva5440
@narva5440 5 ай бұрын
@@AlexJ-sv4ic pos 5
@ProducShuns
@ProducShuns 10 ай бұрын
Amazing. I've been loving venge in pos5 recently. Her early stats are actually insane so you can trade favourably or even kill most pos4 supps in many cases. Armor reduction from her W helps to harrass any tanky offlaners like Axe. You have stun that can help turn fights if they dive tower bot. And once your carry has a bit of farm & is setup in lane, go roam and get kills with stun in other lanes. If executed properly you can win safe lane for your carry giving them a great start and have a positive impact on offlane as well. 2/3 lanes in good position should set you up to take mid game and eventually win. To scale the hero into mid & late game, look at what your team needs. Move speed? Build drums into boots of bearing. Saves? Build solar crest. Up against tanky heroes? Build urn into vessel and shred HP. If all else fails, build hurricane pike into aghs and become a right clicking core with 2 lives 😂 Honestly she's so versatile I love it.
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
Venge is a great hero rn, all spells are good, good stats and good trading + As you said good itemization tempo with drums/vlads scaling with aghs counter tempo with vessel also remember Rosh
@drempto
@drempto 10 ай бұрын
This is actual great content! I wonder what's the right timing to do a half pull on radiant. I almost always can't pull it off.
@curtin-hammett
@curtin-hammett 10 ай бұрын
hi khezu! will pos4 be somewhat similar? block the easy camp and unblock the hard camp? lotus pools at 3mins, rotate at 5, secure runes at 6, and wisdom at 7?
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
its not as simple, but thats a small guideline for pos 4's yeah!
@YouPierceMySoul
@YouPierceMySoul 10 ай бұрын
haven't even watched yet and GOD BLESS YOU KHEZU!!
@johnstevenalejandro3034
@johnstevenalejandro3034 10 ай бұрын
This type of content really helps! Thanks
@icata12345
@icata12345 8 ай бұрын
can you show more ward spots for both pos 4/5 gameplay on the big/medium camps i keep getting outplayed on these often
@NEBUL4
@NEBUL4 10 ай бұрын
damn, that was quick and very informative, we need more like this, thank you!
@divadsimhall2098
@divadsimhall2098 3 ай бұрын
It's a little funny the shadow demon support, played by a pro, bought boots of speed first item (5:05) since the first seconds of clip starts with telling us how bad it is to do that. xd
@pflaffythedog9868
@pflaffythedog9868 10 ай бұрын
Amazing video once again, man you doing great! Please show us how to play as Pos 4 in regards to knowing what the enemy Pos 5 (as shown here) would do! ty
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
ty! Will try
@PIEjaar
@PIEjaar 10 ай бұрын
great content!! best time to hit NC for half pull btw??
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
generally around :20/:50!
@badrinath5306
@badrinath5306 4 ай бұрын
Can u say what the timing on half pull?? R atleast approx. I always get it wrong on radiant. Dire is much more consistent for me but with radiant trees and stuff it always misses.
@ChrisMissal
@ChrisMissal 10 ай бұрын
Great content! I'm happy to have found this and now subscribed!
@zxcvcnz
@zxcvcnz 10 ай бұрын
I'd argue that you dont have to buy 2 sentry wards to play as support in bottom lane, I always buy only 1 ward and save it if enemy ward the 1 creep spawn. I usually walk to the neutral creep to disrupt the spawn which makes enemy support going away from the lane to intercept me. But you should watch which hero they are using and which heroes are yours, if you're using a support that is tanky like ogre, venom, pudge, it's better to abuse the neutral creep. And also, if ur playing as support in bottom lanes, never place ward at the ward tower, instead, either place it on the gate or further into radiant jungle to see if their is any ganking take place. Moreover, it's better to hug the tree lines if u dont ward their jungle. Same goes to top lane, if ur hugging and holding the tree lines, put observer wards far away as possible from the towers.
@BraulyoGaming
@BraulyoGaming 4 ай бұрын
I've been playing as a position 4 or 5 support in Dota 2. I've been a Crusader since the beginning. Nowadays, I focus on roaming to collect bounty runes, water runes, and power-ups. While doing this, I still manage to stack neutrals and pull the creeps, especially when I'm playing as a position 5. Am I roaming too much? I do this to help our midlaner gain an advantage during the laning phase by securing the water runes and the 6-minute power rune. I can also assist them if they're struggling in mid by creating stacks that they can farm after the 6-minute mark, or sometimes later, depending on the situation. but the problem is while im doing it im leaving my carry at the lane, but some people can handle the pressure when I leave the lane, some of it they just cry and throw. they want us to hug them through out the game, wtf.
@pingu4396
@pingu4396 7 ай бұрын
This is such a good breakdown for me. Thank you
@enzodmaudio
@enzodmaudio 5 ай бұрын
nice video! i only missed a guide to do half pull instead of pulling all creeps
@rtyuiop2211
@rtyuiop2211 9 ай бұрын
Can you make a guide for pos 5 if the lane is hard? Or if the team getting stomped early?
@4-r-k
@4-r-k 10 ай бұрын
I've been doing exactly ALL of these (maybe even more that overkills, ie, buying 2-3 sens since start all the time for camp war, trade with enemy like hell to cover my carry, always steal W runes, smoke gank all the time), and yet still stuck in Archon.
@felixstephanmusic
@felixstephanmusic 10 ай бұрын
nice video! gonna practice half pulling today ^^
@WickedDota
@WickedDota 10 ай бұрын
Incredible level of content my guy 🤌
@KheZu
@KheZu 10 ай бұрын
thank you! 🥹
@Rymorin4
@Rymorin4 10 ай бұрын
very helpful haha these are what i had a vague idea that i should do but not a clear idea.
@aefoaanemone4731
@aefoaanemone4731 10 ай бұрын
Hardest thing for me is to do a half pool. Because of that i prefer stacking camps before doing pulls and often timing is not the best.
@LukasAguilar1996
@LukasAguilar1996 10 ай бұрын
Khezu is the best teacher we have
@1ts_Leen0
@1ts_Leen0 9 ай бұрын
Should do a video on how to know which objective to take
@artyom8456
@artyom8456 10 ай бұрын
yes yes yes we need tons of pos 5 contents mr khezu pls
@ggslushy
@ggslushy 7 ай бұрын
I just started playing dota 2 and I understand none of anything that was said in this video :D Good video I like it!
@alexeiarevalotcherva6777
@alexeiarevalotcherva6777 9 ай бұрын
It couldn't be better explained, thank you
@sunbro6998
@sunbro6998 10 ай бұрын
Ty! Keep these coming!
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