Khonsu: The Egyptian Moon God (in Marvel’s Moon Knight)

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ReligionForBreakfast

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2 жыл бұрын

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Moon Knight is the latest Marvel character to get a live action adaptation on Disney Plus. The show tells the story of Marc Spector (Oscar Isaac), who becomes the Fist of Khonshu, the Egyptian Moon God. How faithful is the MCU god to Khonsu of Egyptian mythology?
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@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 2 жыл бұрын
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@lsdesignweb
@lsdesignweb 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos have good info, editing, sound and lenght ... that being said with all respect your narration voice is very monotone
@hondacbrification
@hondacbrification 2 жыл бұрын
This absolutely nonsense.Sun cult came from NORTH where after harsh winter SUN is a life giving force that brings forth life compared Equatorial regions where WATER is life giving force and hence SERPENT cults developed in various polytheistic concepts. If you would go and enjoy and worship Sun in desert you can prove your concept of life source without water in Egypt.
@Atariese
@Atariese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there. I herd you on its probs not aliens and a lot of these vids seem pretty cool. So a sub from me. Gonna go browsing. For a while.
@tenebrousoul9368
@tenebrousoul9368 2 жыл бұрын
only if you cover Thoth. Disregard. You did. Thoth is my homie
@shadowminor
@shadowminor 2 жыл бұрын
First time I have heard someone say Re instead of Ra. bot can be right but Ra is the one I have heard more.
@Emymagdalena
@Emymagdalena 2 жыл бұрын
In the beginning of the video when you were talking about the lack of light pollution, it occurred to me a full moon could make traveling by night possible and safer. The etymology of ‘to go back and forth’ could have a second meaning that Khonsu was a patron god of travelers as well.
@MLife1000
@MLife1000 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting I like the study of word origins and want to start learning more Etymology.
@TacticusPrime
@TacticusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
I once went camping out in the Utah desert. It was a full moon and it was so bright that I cast a clear shadow from its light.
@tylerhawley4012
@tylerhawley4012 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe even relating to the tides. I think that they knew that the tides were tied to the moon in some way back then.
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerhawley4012 the problem with Egyptology that it is so old fashioned and they don't allow new ideas in and they think that must be some form of constitution. in reality egyptian history is still not fully understood especially their view of death.
@lostsan1ty590
@lostsan1ty590 2 жыл бұрын
@@starcapture3040 Yes and no, I am currently a research fellow in Egyptology at one of the best universities and I only got the fellowship because of my new ideas. Many other Egyptologists are indeed old fashioned so you are indeed correct about that.
@decidueye2963
@decidueye2963 2 жыл бұрын
Khonsu was actually mentioned in Night at the Museum 3 the Tablet of Ahkmenrah which gives life to wax figures is actually powered by Khonsu.
@Gianfranco_69
@Gianfranco_69 2 жыл бұрын
Stele of revealing......The stele was first displayed in the former Boulaq Museum with the interesting inventory number 666 .... Crowley wrote down his wifes "utterances" which became the "Book of the Law"
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 10 ай бұрын
So that's why they only come to life at night
@decidueye2963
@decidueye2963 10 ай бұрын
@@redjirachi1 Yup
@yurineri2227
@yurineri2227 2 жыл бұрын
9:42 the story where Khonsu helps a pharaoh steal powers from gods reminded me of the story arc in the comics called "age of Khonshu" where Khonshu helps his champion (the titular moon knight) steal the powers of the Avengers and a bunch of other superheroes, I fell it's likely that the comic writers got the idea of the story arc from the myth
@BetaBreaking
@BetaBreaking 2 жыл бұрын
I always like it when writers take aspects from mythology such as stories and translate it into a modern medium.
@Rafael-2105
@Rafael-2105 2 жыл бұрын
"Do you swear to protect the travelers of the night and bring my vengeance to those who would do them harm?" "yes" "Then rise. Rise again. AS MY FIST OF VENGEANCE! AS MY MOON KNIGHT."
@ompatil2977
@ompatil2977 Жыл бұрын
Yes😎
@gospel2dgeek
@gospel2dgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how Khonsu in Egyptian myth is a god of healing; whereas in the comics, it feels like he's a god of the exact opposite.
@chocolatefigure01
@chocolatefigure01 2 жыл бұрын
khonsu is both, its the fallen Angel Adriel; has two personas, one heals (the biblical evil is aids, khonsu blood cured aids) his other persona is death, its the angel of death.
@saranatari3427
@saranatari3427 2 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatefigure01 you know nothing about this.
@saranatari3427
@saranatari3427 2 жыл бұрын
In the earlier myths he was a slaughterer. He’s also associated with protecting travelers at night.
@chocolatefigure01
@chocolatefigure01 2 жыл бұрын
@@saranatari3427 very true, i know nothing.
@decidueye2963
@decidueye2963 2 жыл бұрын
His depiction in Old Kingdom of Egypt especially in Cannibal Hymn is vastly different from that in New Kingdom depiction, he is depicted almost like a Cannibal who eats other god's hearts.(although he was a lesser prominent god and not known much about other than this ) ' Khonsu who lives on hearts '. But in New Kingdom of Egypt, he is the son of Amun and Mut -part of Theban or Creation triad along with them and associated with Moon and he's protector of night time travellers, healer and fertility.
@wompa70
@wompa70 2 жыл бұрын
I like the backstory for Marvel's Konshu a lot more than the backstory for Thor, Odin, and gang. The Asgardians are aliens that inspired the Norse myths. Konshu is an alien that pretends to be the Egyptian Konsu. I think that better explains the differences between Konshu and Konsu
@kennyrobinson8208
@kennyrobinson8208 2 жыл бұрын
Konshu isn't and "alien" in Marvel comics, he's an actual deity, along with the Asgardians as well. Now in the MCU yeah it's kinda up for debate, but as for the comics they're actual conceptual beings.
@deonnelson9780
@deonnelson9780 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennyrobinson8208 so basically a alien?
@Aristocratic13
@Aristocratic13 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennyrobinson8208 No. When Knull came to Earth he even claimed that my daddy was a Elder God that came to Earth. Take that as you will... Khonshu’s will.
@kennyrobinson8208
@kennyrobinson8208 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocratic13 yeah I know. Doesn't change the fact that he's a God which was my whole point.😂 lol "my daddy"
@saltified739
@saltified739 2 жыл бұрын
Khonshu in the comics is very much a good, from the overvoid actually. He’s as much a god as Anubis and Set, who he has had scuffles with through his avatars.
@malechex611
@malechex611 2 жыл бұрын
If y'all haven't read any Moon Knight comics, literally PLEASE do yourself the service of reading Moon Knight vol8 from 2016-2017. Actual comic book masterpieces right there
@decidueye2963
@decidueye2963 2 жыл бұрын
Moon Knight's Khonshu is pretty much like Khonsu of Old Kingdom because at that time in Cannibal Hymn texts he is depicted as a bloodthirsty god and almost like a cannibal eats other god's hearts to gain power(but the comicbook counterpart is not a cannibal , he is more of a vengeful and bloodthirsty deity).
@oliviaadel8324
@oliviaadel8324 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, Lemire's run.. a true masterpiece, I'd Also like to add to your list 2014 moon knight run by Warren Ellise. Anoother Masterpiece that I wish all comics that came after followed.. (except for Lemire's, the 2016 is Incredible as is. No changes needed)
@lazyvoid7107
@lazyvoid7107 2 жыл бұрын
MCU hater
@shadowlitten547
@shadowlitten547 2 жыл бұрын
@@lazyvoid7107 just because you like the comics doesn't mean you hate the MCU
@Patrick-pc3vq
@Patrick-pc3vq 2 жыл бұрын
@@lazyvoid7107 MCU lore is inferior to comics lore for sure but why such a dumb and unecessary phrase is brought up by you?
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even knew that Khonshu was based on a real deity from Egypthian religion. Because in the few comics I saw him, Khonshu was represented as a faceless white Pharaon (sort of an Nyarlathotep with the colors inverted) and because Marvel went back and forth between Khonshu being a real entity and just an allucination caused by Marc Spector's mental illness, I just assumed he was invented by the comicbook writers. Is fascinating to know thar Khonsu is real (also, for some reason the god's name is apparently spelled "Jonsu" in Spanish)
@BetaBreaking
@BetaBreaking 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's just a figment of your imagination? Ooooooooooohhhhhhhohhhhhhohhh 👻 (Seriously though, I was in the same boat. I thought he was fiction for the longest time)
@Halocon720
@Halocon720 6 күн бұрын
Spanish “Jonsu” is actually closer to the Ancient Egyptian pronunciation-the sound would’ve been similar to Spanish J, rather than English K, which is represented as just “k” in transliteration
@bartolomeothesatyr
@bartolomeothesatyr 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to observe how the portfolios of various deities evolved over time. It reads like fan fiction, the story always changing as younger generations' headcanon supplants that of older generations.
@revariox189
@revariox189 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder where that will leave Yahve in a few thousands year
@MacNif
@MacNif 2 жыл бұрын
Pete Davidson will be worshipped 2000 years from now as the Jesus of his time
@kdkorz10211
@kdkorz10211 2 жыл бұрын
@@revariox189 I mean, White American Evangelical Jesus is nothing at all like biblical Jesus. (I somehow doubt Yeshua would be into guns and Prosperity Gospel and the whole mega church phenomenon make zero sense whatsoever).
@bartolomeothesatyr
@bartolomeothesatyr 2 жыл бұрын
@@MacNif If that's the case, I'm certain there will be a schismatic sect that believes Yeezus died for their sins.
@farrex0
@farrex0 2 жыл бұрын
@@revariox189 I mean, he went from being El, the babylonian God. To Elohim, to Yahweh. He went from being one God among many, to the most powerful among Gods, to the only God. He went from being the God of War to being the God of love. He went to being one person, to being a trinity. He went from being very quick to anger and very vindictive to being very forgiving. And before anyone says, he was always both or the current image of God is what he always was... read the bible. There is never mention of many of these things, until the New Testament. For example, the Holy trinity, it is until the Gospels where the holy spirit is for the very fist time mentioned. There is also no mention of Jesus or God having a son, until the Gospels. God is also the God of War, and is constantly referred to that way, and he is asked Israel plenty of times to go to war, unprovoked. But suddenly Jesus, is all against war and violence, he talks about love and forgiveness... So in the end, Christianity is not that different.
@elfarlaur
@elfarlaur 2 жыл бұрын
The connection of the moon to healing reminds me of the medieval belief that bleeding a patient should be considered according to the phases of the moon, for just as the moon controlled the flood of tides, it also controlled the flow of blood.
@Emymagdalena
@Emymagdalena 2 жыл бұрын
I had never considered the sun disk could be sitting on a crescent moon. I had always been taught/read that they were Hathor horns. Interesting to think that there could be double symbolism .
@Jokomanopo
@Jokomanopo 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't be more interesting or better researched! A wonderful video that I am privileged to have seen, thank you!
@maxanaxam6935
@maxanaxam6935 2 жыл бұрын
I find myself curious about the linguistics involved in studying ancient Egypt. I've heard many different pronunciations of the names of a lot of the deities, and I'm interested to know more about what evidence we have for each pronunciation. For example, I've more often heard Seth pronounced like "set," instead of like the modern name. I've also heard Thoth pronounced "thawth," "thohth," and "tote" by various sources. I'd love to know more about where these different opinions on pronunciations come from, and which ones seem more likely to be historically accurate!
@SimpleArt93
@SimpleArt93 2 жыл бұрын
The way these names are pronounced is very likely influenced by the mother tongue of the speaker attempting to pronounce such ancient Egyptian names. In many languages the "h" is silent, but in others it demands pronunciation and alters the way you read a word or name. In the specific case of Seth and Thoth, the presence of the "h" might be exactly why different people will have very different ideas of how they're should sound like. In my eyes when it comes to Seth we should pronounce the "h", but in Thoth I refrain from pronouncing the second one to simplify things so it quite literally sounds like the word thought. It simply roles off the tongue better that way, at least for me. As a reference I am a native Portuguese (Europe) speaker.
@zackmoon592
@zackmoon592 2 жыл бұрын
I've studied Egyptian for years and here's what I can tell you - First off, Egyptian phonetic hieroglyphs spell things like abjads rather than an alphabet, so kind of like Arabic spelling but without diacritics to depict the sounds. That means most vowel sounds from middle Egyptian (the main variety, spoken in the Egyptian Middle Kingdom and era of the pyramids) are reconstructions based on the word's derivatives in Coptic, the later variety of Egyptian spoken when they were conquered by Alexander the Great and were translated into Greek. However some vowels are still written, both of which give fairly good educated guesses as to the exact pronunciation. Specifically, "Seth" is actually spelled Swtkh in Egyptian, which would be pronounced like "suu- tekh" (سوطج)with a long low u sound and the kh being like the chhhh sound like in the Scottish "Loch" or German "nacht" or خ in Arabic. The "th" is more often than not used for an aspirated dental explosive, like an emphasized "T" sound with an extra little puff of air between your teeth as you say it (ط in Arabic). Thoth uses one of these dental plosives as its last consonant. Thoth/Thwth is actually Djh.wth in Egyptian, with a dja like in "Django" then a ch like ح in arabic or in the german "nicht" , then a low and long u/w sound, then the dental plosive - دجاحوط in Egyptian Arabic. 'Thoth' in English comes from the Greek translation of دجاحوط، دجاحوطي which is θοθ or θώθ, pronounced like thuwth in ancient Greek, thóth in modern greek and تحوت in modern Arabic. Khonshu or Khonšu is pronounced like Khan but with a khhhh خ sound, and a š or ش which is a sch sound like in "show" or خونشو in Arabic
@SimpleArt93
@SimpleArt93 2 жыл бұрын
@@zackmoon592 Amazing insights, thank you for highly detailed information and for taking the time to explain it all. I'm sure many will find this comment very useful.
@maxanaxam6935
@maxanaxam6935 2 жыл бұрын
@@zackmoon592 Absolutely fascinating! So, to clarify, you're saying Thoth/Thwth would be pronounced something like [ʤçutʰ]? I'm making some guesses on the IPA there, because my knowledge of it comes from a singing perspective (focused on Western European Classical music, mostly) more than a linguistic one. And now that you mention it, I have definitely seen Seth/Swtkh spelled and pronounced as Sutekh or something similar, but I don't think I ever made the connection that those were the same name! It makes sense, though, now that you point out the connection. I assume the situation with Re, whom I've more commonly seen and heard of as Ra, is the same, where the original vowel wasn't encoded in the hieroglyphs, so our modern pronunciations come from Greek and/or Coptic, but if I'm wrong on that assumption, I'd love to know more!
@zackmoon592
@zackmoon592 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxanaxam6935 happy to help! And yes, exactly! The IPA you spelled out is more or less EXACTLY how you say it in Egyptian! Seth and Sutekh are one in the same, usually Sutekh in Egyptian texts but the simpler Seth in English ones - generally Egyptologists and linguists use the anglicized versions because it's easier unless it's for an actual academic publication. There's a website called Omniglot which can teach you the basics of how to read phonetic Hieroglyphs. They come in 3 main varieties - 1 syllable, 2 consonant, and 3 consonant glyphs. It's believed that Egyptian used a similar sort of nonconcatenative morphological structure like all other afro-asiatic languages (like Hebrew, Phoenician, Arabic etc), so in simple terms the consonants will be the same and in the same order, but can mean different things with different vowel sounds plugged into/after them. The other main type is Determinative Glyphs, which are the picture ones people are more familiar with because it's usually a little drawing of the object. For example Cat in middle Egyptian is Mîw, spelled M (owl glyph) I/Y (Reed plant glyph) W (baby chicken glyph) with a glyph that's little picture of a cat afterwards to show what it was. For a god like Iah the moon God, it's spelled with the phonetic characters Y(reed glyph) Ā(arm glyph) H. (Tied knot glyph) in a cartouche (which is a little loop thing around formal names), followed by a crescent moon (also sometimes with the word Netcher [pronounced like neh-chair] or a picture of the god himself). Gabor Toth, the prof of Egyptology at Rutgers university has a free book called "Middle Egyptian Grammar through Literature" that you should be able to find a pdf of online
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for teaching us all a little more both about Egyptian mythology and the sources of our popular culture, that is something I think people should take into account more often rather than assuming that mythical characters on their tvs are what ancient people believed them to be like
@ianjulian4859
@ianjulian4859 2 жыл бұрын
Omg watching this just makes me love what marvel did with the comics. The fact that Konshu(comics) can acquire(steal) the abilities of other gods and the fact that Konsu in myth is connected to healing and Marc(moon knight) was dying when Konshu found him and when ever he puts his suit on he gets healed from any injury. Ahh just the little things like that are fun to see get carried into a movie version of the god
@KonekoEalain
@KonekoEalain 2 жыл бұрын
Quick thought, Khonsu was thought to mean "placenta" which is can sometimes still cover a baby during birth, or at least it comes out after the birth, the idea of something that passes from "one side to the other," in this case from the womb to outside the womb, might have been the link to the idea of the moon's phases. The connection of menstrual cycles, moon phases, and the placenta could be construed as connected.
@isxiahrxxxxx6725
@isxiahrxxxxx6725 2 жыл бұрын
i think it also makes sense that, if the pharaoh is an incarnation of the sun god, then it stands to reason that the placenta, being a connected but nonliving counterpart to the birth of the king, is easy to associate with the connected but less central figure of the moon god
@jeremyhawkins8512
@jeremyhawkins8512 2 жыл бұрын
If we're in an electromagnetic resumes with another planetary body then the radiating in resonance create a new sphere of influence equal and opposite reactions every single motion has them, what would be an equal and opposite reaction of having a sun?
@shadowlitten547
@shadowlitten547 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyhawkins8512 Can you explain that in simpler terms?
@jeremyhawkins8512
@jeremyhawkins8512 2 жыл бұрын
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@jeremyhawkins8512
@jeremyhawkins8512 2 жыл бұрын
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@zackmoon592
@zackmoon592 2 жыл бұрын
I've studied Egyptian for years and here's what I can tell you - First off, Egyptian phonetic hieroglyphs spell things like abjads rather than an alphabet, so kind of like Arabic spelling but without diacritics to depict the sounds. That means most vowel sounds from middle Egyptian (the main variety, spoken in the Egyptian Middle Kingdom and era of the pyramids) are reconstructions based on the word's derivatives in Coptic, the later variety of Egyptian spoken when they were conquered by Alexander the Great and were translated into Greek. However some vowels are still written, both of which give fairly good educated guesses as to the exact pronunciation. Specifically, "Seth" is actually spelled Swtkh in Egyptian, which would be pronounced like "suu- tekh" (سوطج)with a long low u sound and the kh being like the chhhh sound like in the Scottish "Loch" or German "nacht" or خ in Arabic. The "th" is more often than not used for an aspirated dental explosive, like an emphasized "T" sound with an extra little puff of air between your teeth as you say it (ط in Arabic). Thoth uses one of these dental plosives as its last consonant. Thoth/Thwth is actually Djh.wth in Egyptian, with a dja like in "Django" then a ch like ح in arabic or in the german "nicht" , then a low and long u/w sound, then the dental plosive - دجاحوط in Egyptian Arabic. 'Thoth' in English comes from the Greek translation of دجاحوط، دجاحوطي which is θοθ or θώθ, pronounced like thuwth in ancient Greek, thóth in modern greek and تحوت in modern Arabic. Khonshu or Khonšu is pronounced like Khan but with a khhhh خ sound, and a š or ش which is a sch sound like in "show" or خونشو in Arabic
@chossenone9508
@chossenone9508 2 жыл бұрын
U lost me on loch
@jarofrocks1429
@jarofrocks1429 2 жыл бұрын
i only understood the first one the others were so confusing- how do you keep track of phonetics?? its all so???
@emmanefertitihague7544
@emmanefertitihague7544 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@mbp32
@mbp32 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Koptous
@Koptous 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Egyptian and i just don't understand something that you said. ح is not pronounced like the ch in nicht at all (I'm learning german too). a letter in the arabic alphabet that would better suit that sound would be ش
@KindanThe1st
@KindanThe1st 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the old "king's placenta" and "go back and forth" conundrum. I get those two confused all the time. What a classic
@antiskill2012
@antiskill2012 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually sort of surprising that Iah faith didn't catch on given the healing aspect. I'm mostly familiar with Japanese religion, but I think about how new temples to the Medicine Buddha were built whenever an important person got sick or a plague was spreading. Did Egypt already have other gods more strongly associated with healing?
@trainercoty2757
@trainercoty2757 2 жыл бұрын
There were a few. My favorite is the scorpion goddess, Serqet 🦂
@michaeld2440
@michaeld2440 2 жыл бұрын
Could be a stretch, but I enjoy that Khonsu in the pyramid texts aids the Pharaoh in consuming the gods to gain their power, and in a more recent run of marvel comics Khonshu as an antagonist to the Avengers sends Moon Knight out to steal and absorb the powers of the other mystically imbued superheroes to empower himself.
@castadivanorma8478
@castadivanorma8478 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderfully narrated episode, as always.Thank you very much.At my advanced age I love to learn so many interesting stories from you.
@SuperCred1t
@SuperCred1t 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose Moon Knight 'heals' the stupidity from villains with a sound beating. Lol
@jacktrap8751
@jacktrap8751 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever make a video about the goddess Ma'at I will be forever grateful!
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know how she related to the other gods.
@nickrowley5579
@nickrowley5579 2 жыл бұрын
"To go back and forth" is absolutely perfect for Moon Knight tbh
@anitareasontobelieve378
@anitareasontobelieve378 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your research integrity and digestable content.
@kameelffarag
@kameelffarag 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing that I come from Egypt to learn about my history from a lovely American scholar. Thank you
@therasbull
@therasbull 2 жыл бұрын
Yesss always excited for new episodes!
@CommanderShepard-wq3wo
@CommanderShepard-wq3wo 2 жыл бұрын
Very fascinating! If you haven’t already, can you please make a similar video for Odin and Thor. I absolutely love Norse Mythology and I’d be highly interested in viewing you work on Norse gods. More specifically Odin
@NeptuneCheeseCake
@NeptuneCheeseCake 2 жыл бұрын
Getting ready for Moon Knight, professor?
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 2 жыл бұрын
The trailers have intrigued me. Cautiously optimistic it will be good.
@jacobmckee8395
@jacobmckee8395 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that Khonsu is the proper spelling from the main sources I know of and who you are calling Re is spelt that way but pronounced R-ah, having the “E”being “AH” to give the “Ra” sound though I know sources do conflict on both names and really any name from ancient Egypt. Still a really cool video and very informative just slight pronunciation stuff same with Thoth being spelt that way but pronounced “Th-ah-th” and “Seth” being pronounced “S-et”.
@saranatari3427
@saranatari3427 2 жыл бұрын
Well… Re doesn’t exactly have alter egos. They’re deities of other Egyptian pantheons that became associated with Ra. Even Osiris is a deity that he merges with. It’s Egyptian syncretic deities. The deities actually merge with other deities. Often the deities Re merges with are deities associated with the sun, creation, or leadership. For example Khepri is a dung beetle that rolls the sun across the sky. Atum is a creator deity. Osiris is associated with leadership. Even Horus is Ra-horakti. Ra is strongly associated with the pharaoh, and thus any deity that is the head of a pantheon is associated with the pharaoh. The pharaoh would go around at different times of the year and perform different local rituals as king of the land. This merging of Ra or Horus with local deities was a form of religious rulership. It’s also important to note that most of the stuff we have written down is associated with the state religion. We don’t know a lot about local cultures, customs and stories because they weren’t written down.
@caijuu7775
@caijuu7775 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your take on the depictions of mythological figures in the Megami Tensei video game franchise. Khonsu himself recently played a fairly prominent supporting role in the most recent entry, Shin Megami Tensei V
@thejmeister
@thejmeister 2 жыл бұрын
The way you talk about Egyptian gods makes them sound so much like modern Superheroes. Even with characters like Khonsu being slightly ret-conned to make him more interesting. That's very similar to characters in comics.
@LeonardoMenezes03
@LeonardoMenezes03 2 жыл бұрын
What about the Myth of Nut and Ra. Nut (sky goddess) was pregnant of her brother Geb (earth god). Ra forbade her to give birth in any day of the year. Nut them gamble with Khonsu and gained enough moonlight that she was able to extend the year from 360 days to 365 days. In each extra day Nut gave birth to a different god. Osiris, Set, Heru-ur, Isis and Nephthys. I learned about this in Kane Chronicles.
@ericthompson749
@ericthompson749 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. Learned a lot about how Khonsu, his personality, and how he evolved as a deity. Interesting little tidbit: Khonsu's main temple at Karnak wasn't completed until the reign of Ramesses III of the 20th dynasty in the later part of the New Kingdom period.
@moma-b
@moma-b 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for sharing!
@hellenicblonde6117
@hellenicblonde6117 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. It was very informative. Please do more videos on Egyptian Gods.
@paulkoza8652
@paulkoza8652 2 жыл бұрын
Well Andrew, well done. I have always loved Egypt and it was my desire to visit there. A few years ago, I had the opportunity to take the grand Egyptian tour. Absolutely no regrets. Egyptian mythology rings close to the heart. I am convinced that it forms the basis of the civilizations that came after, including Judaism. I am not religious, but if I were, I would adopt the Egyptian pantheon as it is the most common sensical. This was a superb effort on your part and I always look forward to your KZbin videos.
@Aristocratic13
@Aristocratic13 2 жыл бұрын
I showed Khonshu this video last night before I went to out on patrol. He was lost for words. He said he was gonna visit the creator of this vid in his dreams...
@jonanabjorn2834
@jonanabjorn2834 Жыл бұрын
such good research and the video is so well made too!
@mch7933
@mch7933 2 жыл бұрын
ancient egyptian religion/spirituality is the most convoluted one i know. seems to me like different regions started out with their own set of Gods and after Unification and throughout the civilisation's history, priests tried to develope a single pantheon
@youreperfectstudio4789
@youreperfectstudio4789 2 жыл бұрын
One could say this about ancient Judaism also I think
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 жыл бұрын
Watch Egyptology armchair videos he makes them bit easier to understand. it seems they watched nature so zoomly and through it they wanted to understand signs of life and its reality.
@mch7933
@mch7933 2 жыл бұрын
@@youreperfectstudio4789 nah the things we know of early Judaism speaks of it being a sect of canaanite religion. And the canaanite pantheon is structured fairly well for a pantheon
@ForeverCerna
@ForeverCerna 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, please talk about the new age belief system, I’ve been seeing it a lot in bookstores and movies nowadays
@gustavovillatoro7970
@gustavovillatoro7970 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the education provided on Egyptian mythology.
@lormanias6395
@lormanias6395 2 жыл бұрын
We want more about ancient Egypt !
@IapetusStag
@IapetusStag 2 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot to discuss the political side of Khonsu. About how he most likely became prominent above most other moon gods because of how the city state of Waset (Thebes) became the one who successfully reunified Egypt in the Middle Kingdom (later replacing Montuhotep's patron Montu), and more so in the New Kingdom when the Theban city state successfully expel the then-hated Hyksos.
@ItsTimeToCode
@ItsTimeToCode 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work as always.
@LeoDas688
@LeoDas688 2 жыл бұрын
Wanted to know about it,thanks for the video
@wemblyfez
@wemblyfez 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this episode. Long time viewer, but first time commenter, I like how clear and simple your posts are, but in depth as well. I've a special interest in Egyptian mythology and Christian studies (or should I say Christian mythology as well?;-)..) Like to see more on the complicated Egyptian pantheon of gods and such. Thanks again for your research and posts.
@nnnn3808
@nnnn3808 2 жыл бұрын
Hey maybe you could do a video on Apollo. A god that underwent many changes in its interpretations apparently, and also my personal favorite from the Greek pantheon.
@lsporter88
@lsporter88 2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough scholarship. Great video.
@sarcasticsaiset9143
@sarcasticsaiset9143 2 жыл бұрын
Love all these videos, but especially the ones on egyptian gods!
@freemanrader75
@freemanrader75 2 жыл бұрын
Very good. This information was so unifying for my understanding.
@muziklandhq2882
@muziklandhq2882 2 жыл бұрын
Thank U 4 these videos Sir.🙏🏿🆙🔥🔥🇯🇲
@fransvalkenburg1156
@fransvalkenburg1156 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting by more videos about Ancient Egypt 👍🏼👍🏼
@skylovecraft2491
@skylovecraft2491 2 жыл бұрын
I'm obsessed with theology and your vids have greatly helped me to become so passionate about it. I've always had so many questions. I love to learn about all religions and make connections between them all to really understand Christianity and the others better. Judaism, Christianity and Islam have many similarities. I love learning about Hinduism too as i have many Hindu friends. Kabbalah however is one of my favorites! Thanks for making these videos and teaching us! I love you brother! You are so intelligent and knowledgeable. If everyone could learn a little more about these religions and similarities and realize that we truly are all the same then maybe we could become a civilization that can learn to truly love one another. That would be ideal but I know it's not for everybody. It's important to have an open mind and rather than focussing on our differences, we need to find similarities with one another. I've learned to accept and love all my fellow man from studying religion (on my spare time on KZbin).💗🙏✌
@rondajones7526
@rondajones7526 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I am stoked that you covered this. I love comics and history , mythology, etc and I'm a subscriber so this was really cool to see. Konshu is interesting and not nice in the comics. The imagery of the giant bird skeleton sect of priests is creepy and kinda cool but if they really took over a city like in the comics I would be beyond terrified
@will2Collett
@will2Collett 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating in understanding where much of WESTERN religion flows from. You have an amazing knowledge. So muchto experience in your subjects. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS. You have also given me a deeper understanding of my Juseo/Christian history and faith.
@redpillmatrix3046
@redpillmatrix3046 2 жыл бұрын
Bible is edited multiple times by different councils. Gospel of st thomas is the most important esoteric Gospel which was removed because it talked about spiritual awakening and enlightenment like eastern religions.
@jounik8980
@jounik8980 Жыл бұрын
Jews started worship sun god in egypt slavery, jesus said to judas those worship wrong god, jews worship other planet before slavery
@jb2839
@jb2839 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you love this explanation
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@TheMunchkinita2509
@TheMunchkinita2509 2 жыл бұрын
It strikes me that Horus' "moon eye" also seems to be blinking as it waxes and wanes every 28 days. It's interesting that's the one called the "whole eye" as well.
@WaltG843
@WaltG843 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed it
@sosacritical8986
@sosacritical8986 2 жыл бұрын
Just a thought but could the connection between Khonsu and helping a pharao consume gods be because of the moons ability to create tides and when the flooding occured after a tide the water "consumed" everything that wasnt safe? Problem: no way they could make a connection between the moon and tides back then right?
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good question. Especially since this aspect of Khonsu is from very early in Egyptian history.
@matthewrichards8218
@matthewrichards8218 2 жыл бұрын
So interesting! I've never really heard anything on this before.
@trulyrandom397
@trulyrandom397 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I can't get over the fact that you pronounced the eye of ra like Star wars Rey... everything else was amazing...
@wildmen5025
@wildmen5025 Жыл бұрын
Pronouncing it like "ray" instead of "ra" is actually how scholars think Ra's name was said. It's why sometimes you'll see it written as Re instead of Ra so that the more correct pronunciation is more evident
@haz1q.
@haz1q. 2 жыл бұрын
It makes alot more sense why khonshu's suit heals mark now. I was like 'if he's a moon god how come how come he can heal?'
@insulaarachnid
@insulaarachnid 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this, would love an episode on the God, Heka.
@RavenYoung
@RavenYoung 2 жыл бұрын
I never heard Re being used only Ra, great vídeo!!
@rominamartinez5544
@rominamartinez5544 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. New suscriber!
@guilhermeluisfrancarego266
@guilhermeluisfrancarego266 2 жыл бұрын
Would you do a video regarding African Brazilian religions like Candomblé and Umbanda? I feel that even here they are widely misunderstood by the majority of our population as well as being constantly attacked by some evangelical Christian leaders and institutions.
@hanzosiku
@hanzosiku 2 жыл бұрын
Great content.
@TheTurbanatore
@TheTurbanatore 2 жыл бұрын
I love these types of videos where you take a fictional character and tie it back to real world history. Please do more!
@avakio19
@avakio19 2 жыл бұрын
Praise Khonshu we have a Khonshu video finally.
@KyleHerbert13
@KyleHerbert13 2 жыл бұрын
I take the name change from Khonsu to Khonshu to be a worldbuilding thing. It implies that since this entity is real and has been around so long that his "name" has shifted with history
@Marbo12f
@Marbo12f 2 жыл бұрын
"He helped the deceased pharaoh capture and eat other gods to gain their divine power." !?!? I think we need to explore that little fact a bit more. Here I was thinking that the part in the book of dead where you tell your heart to shut up as you bold faced lie to the gods about never having committed a sin was an odd relationship to have.
@thecanadianmystic
@thecanadianmystic 2 жыл бұрын
Thoth was also viewed as a magician.
@realcasherrr1074
@realcasherrr1074 2 жыл бұрын
Thoth my big homie🤞
@banquobanquo442
@banquobanquo442 2 жыл бұрын
Cool channel, thanks!
@Mark_GL
@Mark_GL 2 жыл бұрын
Always like before watching
@deadsoulgaming7115
@deadsoulgaming7115 2 жыл бұрын
From a mythological perspective maybe the reason for Ja's lack of personality was something to do with the obscurity that comes with night, which would be related to the moon for obvious reasons.
@youtubewatcher6953
@youtubewatcher6953 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@GIRGHGH
@GIRGHGH 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that ending really hit me in the face, it was over before I could even process.
@roerich1848
@roerich1848 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping for a video on ancient Sumerian/Assyrian religion soon! 👍
@48walsh15
@48walsh15 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on a great episode, 2 questions is there a lunar worship connection with Stonehenge or Avebury? can you recommend any good papers on Egyptian or any other lunar deities
@elyon_moon
@elyon_moon 2 жыл бұрын
Would you cover goddesses of the ancient world? I feel there aren't many who do. And if anyone can put links here for some videos about goddesses please do 🥰 thank youuuuu I love your videos, you're amazing!
@Katie-bo7du
@Katie-bo7du 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video
@ProffesionalZombie12
@ProffesionalZombie12 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. Now it makes sense why, in the Disney+ series, Khonshu explicitly mentions is "healing armor". Knowing or not this is a nice play on the mythology of Khonsu as a healer, and his affinity for helping those in need.
@Mike-ht6rf
@Mike-ht6rf 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video and I have Wondrium and I love it.
@Werewolf914
@Werewolf914 2 жыл бұрын
Egyptian Mythology is my 2nd favorite Mythology and I'm not going to lie when I first heard about Moon Knight I didn't even realize Khonshu was meant to be Khonsu, I don't know why it took me so long to realize because the only difference is Khonshu has the extra letter, and he seems to be more about Vengeance than Healing. But yeah I didn't realize until like a few months after learning about Moon Knight. Anyway loved the video I knew very little about Khonsu before this video, all the research I've done didn't have much to say about him.
@bloodymary3008
@bloodymary3008 2 жыл бұрын
wow !! awesome 🌠 amazing 😃👌 Crowley would ❤ this video
@phanirithvij
@phanirithvij 2 жыл бұрын
10:06 Now the logic in the 3rd episode makes sense. **spoilers** "remembering the night sky" doesn't require manipulating the whole visible universe.
@fite-4-ever876
@fite-4-ever876 2 жыл бұрын
most other religions feel like algebra, Ancient egyptian myth feels like advanced calculus
@welcometonebalia
@welcometonebalia 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Polymerata
@Polymerata 2 жыл бұрын
0:57 *"CHAR!"*
@DRSulik
@DRSulik 2 жыл бұрын
Do the triads correlate to dynasty periods or cultural groups within Upper of Lower Egypt that would indicate the level of description and importance in a socio-economic class such that ruling class is less interested than working class?
@rustecohle591
@rustecohle591 2 жыл бұрын
Please do: 1) omnism 2) Unitarian Universalism 3) Bahaí 4) prisca theologian 5) perennial philosophy 6) hermetcism 7)
@Clockwork_Myr
@Clockwork_Myr 2 жыл бұрын
The sun and moon being the eyes of Horus reminds me of Odin sorta with like one eye being open and the other one being closed/missing ya know?
@Garbagebrain69420
@Garbagebrain69420 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you may be forgetting that this was religion to these people not some made up tale for entertainment. They were not striving for a structurally sound story concept or character development. This was their actual belief system
@Ttw1976
@Ttw1976 2 жыл бұрын
Could have sworn the sun God's name was Ra not Re
@wildmen5025
@wildmen5025 Жыл бұрын
Ra is a modern mispronunciation. The more historical pronunciation is Re.
@jinglesbejankin7322
@jinglesbejankin7322 2 жыл бұрын
We're talking about Moon Knight's Khonshu vs IRL Khonshu when Stan Lee wasn't even trying to be accurate when he wrote the much larger character Thor into the comics.
@Victoria-kb4jk
@Victoria-kb4jk 2 жыл бұрын
As far as pronunciation goes the director of Moon Knight is Egyptian (im pretty sure he’s actually from Egypt and speaks the language) so he’s probably pronouncing it the way he knows how
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