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[@bench5236]

Moon knight always had DID but it was never important as it was only an issue when a personality starts to bleed into his superhero life which was not often

[@yeetmaster75]

In earlier comics they were just alter egos. The comics he mentioned were at the very beginning of Moon Knight. The whole kidnapping a werewolf thing was when he first appeared as a villain for Werewolf by Night.

[@the_well-known_stranger2275]

It’s been a major part of his character for the past 20 years.

[@averageperson5845]

Meh the only other hero is mr night. Jack (cab driver) and Steve (rich guy who gives him the money for his escapades) are the civilians

[@averageperson5845]

@@Celestial_878 yeah mb

[@thehalfcanadian1778]

I think that it’s good to show a character with mental illnesses because all we get to see are problems people don’t have like, wanda getting anxiety and depression from her robot husband and fake kids dying. But Steve, and Marc (and Jake) are real examples of real illnesses. After his brother died and his mother started abusing him, Marc created a new friend, a new brother who was the best of him always the optimist, and Jake who was everything he didn’t want to be (that happened later after he started his mercenary career).

[@UndoneWolf]

I think the reason most gods don’t appear like Anubis is because they were trapped in stone like konshu was at some point

[@JohnDoe-jo6nq]

If you pay attention you can make out his statue specificly :)

[@drivanradosivic1357]

it can explain why in comic versions the Gods are there if they are in Konshu like situation/trapped in stone. it is a really cool idea for world building and rather interesting to think about.

[@xredhuntx5907]

Why would they trap Anubis one of the most important God's he wasn't rebellious too he was a chill dude

[@UndoneWolf]

Maybe the gods just decided they didn’t like him or he did something

[@uwu4476]

@@UndoneWolf well if the gods abandoned humanity, maybe Anubis just didn’t vibe with that? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@hallowknightmare9451]

Technically Harrow didn't kill the Gods themselves, he killed their Avatars so the Gods had no power in the mortal plan anymore, sense they left Earth long ago and only communicate through the Avatars. And little fun fact Taweret is actually the one on the boat because Anubis has been trapped in an Asompti (probably spelled that wrong) and can be seen on the wall of them when Osiris' Avatar puts Khonsu on the wall.

[@adi_g]

Ushabti?

[@wolfcryerke]

Yeah, I interpreted it like that too. Since the other Gods had left Earth, their remaining power and influence was inherently smaller than those of Khonsu and Ammit who had remained there. I somehow expected them to release some of the other gods trapped in Ushabtis though, but alas

[@LiMe251]

Ushapti

[@JayPlusForerunner]

That makes sense

[@hallowknightmare9451]

@@LiMe251 thanks didn't at all know how to spell that

[@shreeya3789]

I think the difference between marc and layla's avatar costume is what differentiates between khonshu and tawaret. Tawaret gave her a scarab like costume which was personal to layla as her father called her his little scarab whereas khonshu gave him this badass one which shows off khonshu and covers marc completely showing his avatar belongs to him

[@kyellverdonschot9922]

And it is closer to him. With the moon part

[@acupofwhitetea]

Layla's outfit was originally inspired by the Goddess Isis. But the writer wanted to insert Tawaret in so they made her Layla's God partner instead of Isis.

[@dm_dude]

She is inspired by Scarlet Scarab. In the comic he was male and nobody really cared about him. He appeared like 3 times.

[@therealan00bis32]

⁠@@acupofwhiteteathe writer switched it bc people would mistake god isis for the terrorist group isis

[@superj1010]

25:00 Ammit wasn't the only god that was sealed. It's likely that Anubis did something to anger the Ennead and as such had to be replaced.

[@coleperez3612]

Yes they show his statue as if he was also sealed

[@ImWhyMortalsCry]

I believe I also saw Sobek sealed away but I'm not sure anymore

[@Fayron3]

You know that's funny because I was about to say there were more than one God's sealed away so he should go back to that scene and scan for anything that resembled Anubis.

[@Zeyro1696]

,@@ImWhyMortalsCry

[@gabriella3907]

Speaking on the Konshu being depicted as a bird head: Yeah actually one of his depictions is a regular human with a falcon head with the moon disk above him, Though he is also depicted as a sort of human type person. But also in the Hyroglyphics version of Khonshus name is the moondisk, the side lock, and a falcon.

[@eivinkringen4725]

I never knew he had a depiction with a Human head. I always knew him as the bird god

[@RogelioALoya]

So he isn’t a stupid pigeon

[@arta.xshaca]

@@RogelioALoya finally

[@pleasecallmedoku7215]

For those who don't know, the actual god is named Khonsu, not Khonshu. My best guess for why is that the original writer (the one in the '70s) got it wrong or his source was wrong, but I actually have a theory about that. I believe that Khonsu and Khonshu are different gods (variants if you will). I believe that: Khonsu is the God of the moon, travelers, and healing. Khonshu is the God of the moon, travelers, and beating up drug dealers in alleyways at 3 AM. Also, he's full of shit, don't trust him.

[@potatogaming7044]

Or it can be to explain different’s, the writers want to be creative, however certain mythology’s are limited. So they make new stuff. Basically to have enough building blocks to make stuff easily, but not so limited to have to oblige to everything. Using a different name may show this (in the mcu) scribes got stuff wrong. Think about it, in the mcu, are you expecting for scribes to get everything right about those gods. No. And to show they use a different name to distance it enough to free it up.

[@Larper64]

It is also potentially based on an older transliteration. It is important to remember the ancient Egyptian language is still only partially understood. While the Rosetta stone has made it not impossible to translate, much is still unknown. Vowels for example were not a part of writing and instead thought to be understood, thus why you see the sun gods name written as both Ra and Re depending on the scholar's preference. Similarly some consonants have multiple pronunciations, thus while the Egyptian god of the red sand, storms, and wild animals is often written as Set, it is also commonly written as Seth or even Sutekh because, as stated before, modern scholars have to basically assume the vowels as well as the specific variation of each consonant. And my examples use two of the more commonly spoken about gods thus we have some near contemporaries writing about them in languages we do have a working understanding of, thus why we have repeated standards even if all don't agree. With minor gods like the god on night travelers and the moon all we really have when transliterated is "ḫnsw." We have little idea of how this was actually pronounced as since he was a rather minor god not many contemporaries wrote of him thus scholars have various ways of transliterating it into a recognizable pronunciation: Chonsu, Khensu, Khons, and yes Khonshu are among the various versions used depending on what sounds write to the writer. Funnily enough in the Coptic language, which descends for ancient Egyptian directly, his name transliterates as Shons, completely different from any of the commonly agreed variations.

[@kylemusson5775]

Don't forget he is the god of time in the comics too

[@ShiningDarknes]

It has many spellings. Khonsu, Khons, Chons, or Khensu are all spellings. All of the various Egyptian gods have several spellings due in part to scholars to this day being unable to agree on proper translations of hieroglyphics. It is entirely possible that back in 1975 when Moon Knight was created "Khonshu" was an accepted spelling.

[@miracon000fez]

Apparently Khonshu is also a god of time aswell ( in the comics anyway). Also (according to knull) he's an elder shadow disguised as a God so keep that in mind.

[@ekereus9037]

The reason that I think Khonshu could grow to full size is that he was outside while the full moon was out. We saw that explicitly shown when Mark was fighting Harrow on the pyramid.

[@Jamesdukeofbuffalo-valonder]

Nice catch.

[@miracon000fez]

That actually makes more sense than my explanation for it ( I just thought they all could do it at will since there gods and all

[@kryptonianguest1903]

@@miracon000fez I was thinking that Ammit didn't grow giant because she was eating souls, she grew giant TO eat souls faster.

[@runningthemeta5570]

I actually had that exact same question about Khonsu’s appearance, and it seems like there are two different depictions of Khonsu. One depiction of Khonsu has a very humanoid appearance I think with blue skin(or maybe white not sure). Then another one is the head of a hawk. So the bird head is at least partially accurate, but not so raven like that his head is. Also, I feel like I should say this, Harrow isn’t really fighting the Gods. The Avatars in Moon Knight are the will of the Gods. When Steven finds the tomb of Alexander the Great, he says that the avatar was Ammit’s voice. So they aren’t really the Gods in mortal form but are the will of the Gods.

[@runningthemeta5570]

@@D.Jay. that’s what I was thinking, but couldn’t find the words for. They was also how he mentions how Harrow easily convinces the Avatars that Marc, and by extension Khonsu, is lying. But neglects to mention how Harrow uses the fact that Marc had DID as evidence to show that he’s unreliable

[@WhatIsLife-_-]

So to answer the point about khonshu’s head, marvel has for the longest time depicted khonshu as having a bird skull for a head in the comics and as an adaptation of the comics, the show does the same thing. Though I believe it is possible his head could have looked more similar to the bird portrayal from the mythology but then decayed to be skull like. My reasoning is a throw away line from ammit saying time was not kind to him.

[@Larper64]

Yeah I was going to mention the hawk head as well, he is often depicted similar to Ra, but with a moon disk instead of a sun disk.

[@JosephCaiden873]

Falcon not hawk

[@runningthemeta5570]

@@JosephCaiden873 thank you. I kinda have trouble telling the two apart.

[@gloweyspecs]

Fun fact: Layla actually WAS originally going to be an avatar of Isis! the showrunner eventually changed it to make her an avatar of Taweret after deciding that Layla and Taweret provided a more interesting dynamic they didn't change her outfit's design though because Layla is based on a pre-existing comic character named the Scarlet Scarab :\

[@ShiningDarknes]

Which was a dumb decision since Tawaret is in no way a god who's avatar would get those powers. In fact based on the powers she gets and appearence she should probably have been matched up with Neith, goddess of war (the avatar is a hero of Egypt so this would make way more sense), wisdom, motherhood (like Taweret), and most importantly for the sake of the plot FUNERARY (you know, the thing the shoe-horned Taweret into for no reason) But I mean much like Isis she is just depicted as a human with bird wings and not some animal they can make a CGI model of. But I wouldn't expect the writers to know one of the OLDEST GODS OF EGYPYT or anything, she is only mother of Ra and worshiped as the mother of creation, NBD. Oh, did I mention she is also depicted has having a _red_ crown? So, you know, they could actually swing the _Scarlet_ Scarab thing vaguely. Oh, and she uses a bow so the ranged nature of Layla's avatar kit would work with that too. FFS this took me all of 15 minutes to research but no, they went with the fucking hippo.

[@mythmage8231]

@@ShiningDarknes Correct me if I'm wrong, but Taweret has always been related to what is effectively the Duat's nursing home, no?

[@ShiningDarknes]

@@mythmage8231 basically

[@captainblighe7297]

Hippo go Brr

[@AnimeKat8849]

This isn't really a serious take but I'd guess using "Isis" would cause some people to get.... Ummm sensitive? 😂 Even though in Arabic her name would be pronounced "izis/izys" the spelling would cause Twitter to have an aneurysm 😂

[@vikib1758]

She actually said that this was not her job, that's why she had the cue cards with her, I think it was something about Osiris, but I don't remember right now.

[@hexbug9737]

Anubis is one of the imprisoned stone statues so that's why she was doing it

[@LionWithAGun]

she was indeed working off cards, and gave new employee vibes as she said she wasnt sure if theyd blow up from her taking the hearts to be weighed as if shes made a mistake or 2 while learning her knew job.

[@ShiningDarknes]

It is really weird that, of all the gods to pick from, they chose a fertility goddess to captain the ship. There are several gods of Egypt depicted as riding boats or rafts, she is not one of them lol.

[@TheScience69]

I have a feeling they just wanted all the important, most powerful gods to be female and didn't bother trying to make that make sense within the mythology, tbh

[@LionWithAGun]

@@TheScience69 what? The show showed us that every god other than konshu only used their avatars to view the world, not be combative. The only 2 strong female gods were the goddess that protects women/children and the goddess/monster that gets stronger via eating souls that were constantly getting fed to it in the finale. Of course the other gods weren't gonna stand a chance using avatars with no armour or weapons.

[@rainynight02]

To be fair, the "gods" that the villain killed were the avatars without their sacred garbs equiped. While Marc and Layla both had the sacred garbs equiped, this were protected. If the avatars had their sacred garbs equiped, I'm sure they wouldn't have been killed so easily. Same with how Marc got shot and almost died, but he didn't have the power activated, where as with the garb, he would have had no problem.

[@lynnerush8]

Osiris didn’t leave the underworld…He communicated through his avatar and the gods didn’t die their avatars did

[@michaelmcdoesntexist.]

I really liked the show. I only wish that they would have shown Jake Lockley more

[@CalifornianCuttlefish]

ok

[@sunnlovesorange]

thats exactly what i screamed about when I finished watching

[@jeringatai3156]

Disney plus. Jake Lockley is too violent for disney plus hence the black outs

[@James-ps9zo]

same but he's probably going to be one of the main characters in whatever comes next

[@pandajaeger3079]

There rumor of a season 2 so he might show up more there hopefully

[@logangrover1655]

*Spoilers* I think the reason Harrow was able to kill the avatars was because he was judging the souls of said avatars, not directly killing the gods. So he was depriving the gods of their mouthpieces, since the gods are in a different world.

[@FunFilmFare]

I think Harrow killed just the god's avatars, maybe not the gods themselves? Still great review!!

[@superj1010]

Unlike Konshu, the rest of the gods aren't on Earth. He mentions them being in a place called "overvoid." That's my theory as to why their avatars aren't nearly as strong as Marc or Layla.

[@FunFilmFare]

@@superj1010 I'm also super confused at how... *SPOILER* ...killing Harrow means killing Ammit. If he's dead then couldn't she just find another avatar?

[@superj1010]

@@FunFilmFare Marvel magic ritual stuff, idk. Magic in Marvel, especially in Moon Knight, is prettu vague.

[@risky2166]

@@FunFilmFare I think they explained that the ritual Layla and Marc did to Harrow is like The Ennead did to seal the gods. But instead now its a human rather than a statue. So they "imprisoned" her in Harrow's body unlike avatar where the avatar just get the power. But the reason still isnt that good. Like, isnt destroying the statue release the gods? So why its different with body (And ofcourse they just said that as reason with Layla's dialog "A mortal form instead of a statue, she'll be more vernurable")

[@FunFilmFare]

@@risky2166 I guess so. If Season 2 happens I predict Harrow will come back from the dead

[@the_well-known_stranger2275]

Osiris wasn’t leading the meeting of the gods, Horus was.

[@thatsmuggamer]

Really?

[@arta.xshaca]

What?

[@justnojustn3036]

The moon knight DiD was a pretty recent thing . Some of the newer runs that the show is based on delve into it more

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

It's always been implied that there weren't necessarily other personalities, but that it was Khonshu messing with his head (then later he rejected the god, and assumed it was just DID...)

[@2008-wii-remote]

@@johannesstephanusroos4969 which is a terrible message to send what the hell?? Also alters not personalities

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

@@2008-wii-remote Ask the writer of the comic, lol

[@blobofmeatwhoexist8460]

@@2008-wii-remote I think on Jeff lemire run, Marc DiD is not caused by khonsu but does attract khonsu and I think most recent moon knight comic agrees with this sentiment because I couldn't really remember any recent run who agree with the khonsu is the causes of the DiD

[@threemar3]

@@2008-wii-remote a terrible message to send? Dude, it's a comic involving Egyptian gods, things are going to be crazy. If that really bothers you, fiction isn't your thing.

[@artifex2.080]

Harrow never killed the gods, he killed their avatars. The only reason moon knight is able to survive so much as an avatar is because of the Healing suit khonshu gave him. It's literally mentioned in the show

[@dragonetafireball]

I was the same where I was mad at the classic, “it’s not a moral dilemma if named characters aren’t involved but suddenly is when the person sending the unnamed combatants is reached it’s suddenly an uncrossable line, and I was asking a few questions and the end credit instantly answered most of my questions and wrapped the season up to the point I really want more but I’d be satisfied if we never got it.

[@ethanrome4239]

Moonknight and Mr. Knight are really well designed

[@williamvalorious4403]

Spoiler Question stands what does the armor look like for the third guy?

[@mutantmagnet]

Regarding Anubis if you look at the scene where Konshu is placed with the other imprisoned statues it looks one of them is Anubis. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they actually accounted for that and it makes me wonder what Anubis could've done to piss off the others so much he had to be sent to jail and Tawaret had to do double duty.

[@LionWithAGun]

my bet is anubis is the owner of ammit so when she was first out of control the gods locked him up as well to punish her owner/ avoid anubis trying to free her or protect her

[@kylemusson5775]

I noticed that about the scales being on the boat too. It confused me until I noticed one of the status (can't spell the name) the gods where trapped in may have been anubis. I may be wrong about that but you don't get a close look at all of them in the show.

[@shadangel47]

To answer your confusion about Layla's Avatar Outfit design is that she was made to become the Red Scarab, something the teased throughout the series with her name, what her late father called her, and her band aid in Marc's views in the boat in the duat. In the comics, the Red Scarab was an Egyptian villain who fought against the Invaders, but since then, they changed it so Layla's rendition on the Red Scarab is an Egyptian hero, as a way to fix the horrible idea of making someone the villain going up against a group called the *INVADERS*, and to kinda dunk on Wonder Woman 2

[@sineaterdred1]

Scarlet Scarab

[@shadangel47]

@@sineaterdred1 Right, thank you

[@ShiningDarknes]

k...but her getup and powers don't match that of Tawaret which she was temporary avatar of so it makes no sense from a mythology standpoint. Tawaret was just a weird choice, I mean she is the goddess of motherhood. I dunno maybe since she was acting in what seems to be Anubis's roll (the scales thing is his schtick) and the boat seems to be either Neith's or Ra's though Neith would make a bit more sense since she is a goddess of motherhood (like Tawaret), war, and the Nile also and is often depicted with wings like the ones Layla's avatar getup has (also Ra's boat is her boat since she is his mother so that checks out) she was able to make Layla into an avatar of some other god she was acting for. They really needed to do a better job explaining that more than half of the gods are sealed up like Ammit and later Khonshu. Anubis recently got sealed as well based on Tawaret doing his job.

[@MahiMahi-yu5jo]

@@ShiningDarknes I think Layla's powers would have worked better with Khepri. It would have also played into the Sun-Moon analogy between husband and wife. But people wouldn't have been receptive of a God with a Scarab's head, and Marvel hates taking risks. Moon Knight was already a big risk for them, considering it is set up as a story in vacuum. While Tawaret appeals to the masses because she's a cute hippo, I would have loved to see the creator's rendition of Khepri.

[@nishantverma2909]

Avatars can be killed but Mark is just a special case. When Harrow killed the other avatars he killed them by testing their souls on the scale (just like he tried to test Steven in the first episode). Mark's multiple personalities saved him from that. Regarding the physical attacks I assume Khonsu is a warrior god and he makes Mark invulnerable because of his nature of work. Other Avatars are not suppose to fight but Mark needs to fight to serve justice.

[@Utubesuperstar]

He’s not invulnerable they say in the show it’s the armor that heals and protects him but I’m fairly sure there is a limit

[@Utubesuperstar]

He’s not invulnerable they say in the show it’s the armor that heals and protects him but I’m fairly sure there is a limit

[@darryljack6612]

TMG you should totally read Moon Knight Vol 1: Lunatic - By Jeff Lemire. A lot of it is being used in this series and it is a really good read if you want to know more about moon knight. It and the other 2 volumes (Vol 2 Reincarnations and Vol 3 Birth and Death) that follow after serves as great jumping on points about the Character and features a lot of (relatively) more accurate Egyptian mythology and featuring more gods and figures.

[@juliaking1576]

I agree!! The 'Welcome to New Egypt' run heavily influenced this show, and was my first introduction to the character. It greatly develops Marc's past and his relationships to people being influenced by his Dissociative Identity Disorder. It's a bit trippy, but well written and I highly recommend it.

[@raibyo]

I pretty sure Harrow didn't kill the gods. He just killed the Avatars which should be somthing he's capable of doing since they're humans. Also, it Taweret seems quite inexperienced with what she was doing with the cheat sheets and the whole worrying about she'd rip their chests open thing, so it could that something happened to Anubis and she's temporarily filling his position.

[@Banzai_AWOS]

Ok so firstly, from what I know most of the egyptian gods are depicted with their divine animal symbol as their heads Khonshu can be seen both with and without this in his depictions, that explains the animal heads on the gods, I think having konshu's as a skull was more or less just a different design choice to make him different. (might be reading into this but it could represent the fact that he is different from the other gods and generally an outcast in MoonKnight) - Next up we have the fact that Osiris is not physically in the mortal plain, he is using his avatar as a medium between the two plains you can see this similarly in The Kane Chronicles by Rick Riordan. I've got nothing to say about Harrow beating the other gods with Ammit still in the Ushabti, the only argument I could have is that the gods weren't in their actual "bodies" but still in their avatars making them weaker as they can't use their full power whilst in the avatars. - After that with Khonshu growing and having the power to fight Ammit, only thing that makes sense to me is that he was at full power because it was night time and a full moon at that, other than that I've got nothing. - With the Anubis and the Duat thing, as many others have pointed out there were a shit ton of gods sealed in the Ushabti's (Ushabti?) Anubis included, then with the scales being on the boat, in continuity I would assume this is because there's been so much time that's passed that it makes more sense to do the judgment on the way, plus with Ammit being evil they wouldn't have anyone to devour the hearts so they have to chuck them into the sands and let the restless souls take them. - Anyways I absolutely loved the story and am going to be so mad if season 2 doesn't come out soon. Also I love the differences between the morals of each of the personalities, Steven being essentially the pacifist as he completely despises violence but will fight if he absolutely needs to, Marc being the one who while may not like it, will do what needs to be done, and finally what seems to be the other side of morals from Steven, we have Jake Lockley, who would seem to be the complete manifestation of brutality in Marc, not caring about anything else but the job, I'm very interested to see what made Marc split his personality into a third, although I have a theory that it's actually Steven who ended up inadvertently split himself into Jake, as he was too soft to get through some other traumatic situation.

[@davidnewman4678]

I think the thing with Konshu being large at that time is he's fighting at night. He's also been enacting his will through the moon knight, which has probably boosted him somehow, while the other Gods haven't seemingly been up to much, so they don't have much power. Gods are usually, in most media I've consumed, creatures that run on belief, if a lot of people worship you, or you have some variety of influence over the world, through say, an avatar doing things that are good for you, the more powerful you will be. Harrow kills the other avatars because he's good with magic, and he has a lot of combat experience, being Konshu's old avatar and all the nefarious things he's been up to since. I agree that that particular bit was kinda disappointing though

[@tet4nus]

I saw a few moon knight cosplayers in the forest. Kinda weird place for a con or something but cool to see some cosplay love

[@Noorboomboomshakalakaboom]

A forest? I guess it gives you more freedom when it comes to space and environment? Never tried cosplay and it seems fun, never thought you'd do it in a forest?

[@lyndon4610]

Is this a kkk joke?

[@tommytoon_stories]

@@lyndon4610 yes, it is

[@Noorboomboomshakalakaboom]

@@tommytoon_stories then I am just dumb. Feel free to r/woosh me.

[@tommytoon_stories]

@@Noorboomboomshakalakaboom Nah, I ain't about that

[@Thestarsandseassystem]

just a small note, Multiple Personality Disorder or MPD is the old name for Marc's "condition". The modern name is Dissociative Identity Disorder or DID

[@imafemboyfr]

He can control mjolnir and trap people's powers in a cross with a circle on to he also dose have DID

[@levid888]

That’s an Ankh

[@imafemboyfr]

@@levid888 thank you

[@TheEmpireDabsBack]

the lack of Anubis, Ptah, Sekmet, Thoth, and others I think is that they've fully gone to the overvoid, there simply is no trace or way for them to return to our world. Osiris, Hathor and others on the council live partially, between worlds, which is probably why their avatars fell so easily, only part of the godly power is present. While Khonshu and Ammit have no presence in the overvoid, and fully exist within our realm which is why ultimately they can hold more practical power to affect things we see.

[@PlusOne2Crit]

Their Ushabti's are shown when they store Khonshu's away. They're not gone anywhere.

[@yourlocalswarmofmoths]

Many of them can be seen in ushabtis

[@dm_dude]

Let’s face it. The CGI was just to expensive. That’s why their avatars are there and not the gods themselves.

[@northamerica5142]

@@dm_dude Yeah definitely. Though I don't get why cost is an issue cause Disney is like the richest entertainment enterprise to ever exist. Like I feel like they could invest a few more millions or so to portray the big popular gods

[@TEAMKYR]

I think the Konshu bird skull thing just comes from his comic design. Also, I too was disappointed in Ammit's design in the show. Apparently, Layla's new form is based off the Scarlet Scarab from Marvel Comics. I think Tawaret might've been better replaced by Ra. The Ship Marc and Steven find him on could be the Ship of Ra during its nightly journey through the Duat. As he can see what's going on with all the souls being purged, he could find this reason enough to bring them back to the "real world" with him. After he emerges from the Duat, he could ask Layla to be his avatar, and since he's in his morning sun Khepri form, her suit would make sense to be the Scarlet Scarab. It would also give a cool Sun and Moon dynamic between Marc/Steven and Layla. Although it was cool to see Tawaret, I think the character would've worked better as Ra, but that's just my two cents. I think the reason a lot of the gods seem to have taken new responsibilities in this show is because we can see that they have already imprisoned a ton of other gods in ushabti, making it so that someone has to take up their roles. I loved the video and hope to see you do something similar for Thor 4!

[@hexbug9737]

Ra is mostly likely being saved for something else Ra and Atum are the same god in Marvel Also Ra is a God Eater

[@reagyman405]

I really like Tawaret(Kane Chronicles did her epic)but Ra would have been good to.

[@TEAMKYR]

@@reagyman405 fully agree

[@Alphapkmn]

to be fair, those gods were in unarmored human forms, which, despite being powerful, humans are known for being rather easily killed.

[@jacobforbes8491]

the gods themselves where not killed their avatars where killed and yes it is still stupid that they themselves did not fight amit because they swore on an oath that they wouldnt interfear with humans

[@jownadel1526]

I don't see moon knight actually joining the avengers, it just wouldn't really make sense, but I can see him working with the avengers against some evil person

[@laurasibob1106]

The reason I think the other avatars got one tapped so hard is because they simply weren't given power to fight. Harrow says something like "You're judges, not warriors." and I think that applies to the powers they received. Moon knight gets the badass suit that grants weapons, constant healing and supernatural physical abilities and Layla got the same thing but golden, while the other avatars probably only got social skills or something of the sort, since we don't see them with any sort of treasure.

[@bakariwolf3835]

I think you might have missed the part, granted it was a quick line of exposition, but she actually explains she's driving the boat and weighting the hearts because most of the gods are not taking part in human affairs anymore. It's mentioned a couple of times in the show, and she even says she's new to this part.

[@loljay3281]

1 thing is Moon Knight is at his strongest during a full moon. That is why Khonsu just turned the sky into night

[@morbidwitch]

Taweret was filling in for Anubis with the judging of the hearts, if you look closely on the wall where Khonshu was incased in stone you can see him and a couple of the other gods. Hopefully we'll see more of them in season two.

[@deancontiwriter13]

For the things of the comics (and some explanation on the whole avatars thing and why they can't be on Earth physically) I suggest Emergency Awesome's MoonKnight video breakdowns. they explain everything very smoothly

[@arktigo3024]

To be fair Marvel has their own Egyptian mythology with their own takes on the gods

[@sk8rmouse404]

Who's your favorite Egyptian God portrayed in Moon Knight? Mine is the icon Taweret 👑

[@realbrdstx]

I loved the end credit scene from episode six

[@RosebudsASled]

I’m pretty sure part of the idea of the avatars is they have visions of the gods when they talk to them but the gods don’t leave their positions. That’s how Osiris “left” the underworld. I noticed this when she became an avatar for Taweret. Like that barge needs their captain, she can’t leave lol

[@angelikarts6668]

I think most of the action budget went on animating that awesome God, they were beautifully rendered

[@derpman2033]

My hypothesis of how khonshu got bigger is because he is the god of the night sky his powers grow stronger at night, but not stronger then the person that feeds on souls.

[@theprimo100]

Apparently Layla is based somewhat on a character called "Scarlet Scarab" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_Scarab

[@drakolangley4337]

25:50 yeah I the episode where the gods sealed khonsu you can see that they sealed up to around 12-13gods all together my best guess is that anubis is among them because of ammit going against the gods and they held him responsible for not keeping her under control like he was probably supposed to

[@Tetsulot]

Anubis has been sealed during the Egyptian Gods civil war, you can see his statue along with Khonsu and other gods in the seal room

[@PlusOne2Crit]

"It's not like there's sex or swearing." "I think it's fine for kids." Kinda sad we still live in a world where killing, murder etc.... is somehow not as bad as sex or even swearing of all things...

[@dabdevil]

Because murder and killing are not as natural as reproduction and communication

[@owenbridgers]

I mean animals kill each other all the time, granted most of it is to eat but still, some animals kill just to kill

[@loljay3281]

This is the most boomer shit I ever seen. Imagine playing Call of Duty and imagine playing a hentai game. Yeah call of duty is much worse right?

[@PlusOne2Crit]

@@owenbridgers And it's been proven some animals have sex just to have sex. What is your point exactly?

[@PlusOne2Crit]

@@dabdevil What is your point even?

[@jackalnerf6230]

I bet they’re saving Anubis for a later season or moon knight appearance because he’s probably the most famous Egyptian god to people that don’t know mythology

[@arsh9402]

He was actually one of the gods stuck in stone.

[@bigcloutmusic3255]

Moon Knight is the only Marvel Show worthy of rewatching every episode thank you History Goat🔥🔥🔥🙏🖤🐐💯

[@jjbrix8346]

i think loki maybe also fit the criterea

[@excaliburknives3572]

@@jjbrix8346 Loki was overrated.

[@emeraldzack910]

@@excaliburknives3572 fax

[@mutantmagnet]

Loki and Wandavision are worth rewatching. The latter especially for those who didn't like how the recent Dr. Strange movie turned out. It is worth reexamining the character in Wandavision after that.

[@marcspector451]

layla's costume design is based from a scarab coz her dad used to call her that when he's alive also shes the scarlet scarab now (they gender swapped her and change her origin from the comic) anubis is traped in one of those stone sculpture

[@kellyfalls8433]

I love Egyptian mythology

[@justnojustn3036]

Oh you like Egyptian mythology ? Name every cat

[@donebydice9985]

Snuffles, puss, tststs, love, little shit. Done

[@Realms3113]

FINALLY!!! from the moment I started watching Moon knight I couldn’t wait to hear your take on it and your info on the mythology.

[@JoniEscar_07]

I believe he just took out the souls of the avatars, killing them almost immediately and then again they weren't the gods fighting it was just the avatars which if they were he wouldn't have stood a chance also I would've liked to see Ra or maybe other gods like Horus, maybe Shou? Or whatever it was called, Khepry and maybe Geb if that's his name?

[@tiana_andherbooks]

Khepri was another aspect of Ra. I think that's who you meant to say?

[@elevenscoobert6794]

They are prpbably saving Ra as he is linked to Moon Knight's biggest rival (the Sun King).

[@abobakrhassan2731]

Why out of all the Egyptian gods one would want to see khepry

[@JoniEscar_07]

@@abobakrhassan2731 You are asking why would we want to see on of the aspects of Ra, that had probably, we don't know, A scarab for a face? I mean between bird, cats etc I wanna see someone someone with a scarab

[@abobakrhassan2731]

@@JoniEscar_07 If we're going to see a side of Ra, why not Atum!? There are more interesting deities than a scarab-faced god like Heka, Ptah, or Amun

[@carlosperalta1714]

During the trial part, Harrow pointed out how mentally conflicted Marc is as Khonsu's avatar. Marc admitted his mental instability and the judges thought Khonsu was leading him astray.

[@emilyrln]

Omg I literally just binged this last night! Very excited to see your perspective.

[@Mr.mistake64]

It would have been amazing if you saw the gods push themselves out of the torsos of the avatars to fight

[@d3_VV]

13:14 if you are wondering why Konshu has a bird skull as a head, Its because in some Egyptian art he is potrayed as a human with a blue feathed bird as a head but they altered it into a bird skull in the show.

[@michaelbentley7110]

The older comics he didn’t have DID but he developed them over times because he was in those personalities so much.

[@TheMorrigan_x]

YT finally recommended a new channel I would like! Great video, I love your style and the passion behind the knowledge is perfect x

[@XDPro-cx3pk]

Personally I believe that releasing weekly keeps me focused the show instead of just watching it and forgetting it within 3 days

[@bonniedykstra6722]

Moon knight is personally my favorite mcu show, it was insane in every aspect and I loved all of it.

[@rebelcommander7starwarsjur922]

The whole Anubis not being there’s just most likely a mythological inaccuracy and not something they will explain again later sadly 😔

[@Henry-iz7iv]

Anubis can be seen on the shelf where Khonshu’s stone body is placed. It’s why Hippo goddess has cards and shit, she’s filling in for Anubis while he’s imprisoned

[@yourlocalswarmofmoths]

No it was moderately explained in the background, anubis is in an ushabti

[@carlamiglin2705]

Moon Knight is not the only one with DID. He has a 4th personally in the comics. Jane from Doom Patrol had DID.

[@lokirofrorikstead7914]

I love it every time you finish a sentence your just like: alright hair it's time to move

[@zucchi6148]

as for Leyla having wings and looking like that they wanted to make the Scarlet Scarab canon in the MCU, and for the costume switching it is not a thing in the comics it was only made for the show and Jake probably has his own costume which i hope we see in season 2

[@yourlocalswarmofmoths]

The costume switch is based off of the 2014 addition of a 4th alter being mr knight the basic public face of moon knight. Steven and jake don’t actually wear the suit in the comics. Also the reason that layla has the wings is because she was the avatar of isis

[@yeetmaster75]

Yo that cosplay in the thumbnail 👌👌👌

[@mrbackjr3938]

If you pay attention to one of the beginning of the episodes, it shows Khonshus ushabti, but the camera pulls away and shows about 8 other ushabtis. Maybe these gods are doing different jobs because the others are locked away... just a thought

[@eeemuhammadrifas.k-1023]

Ammit grows into a kaiju by sucking souls and Khonshu grows into a kaiju by using the full moon.

[@anumic_]

ive been watching since 80k subs and i can tell this channel needs a little backgorund music

[@rosepuppy1984]

The 3rd personality thing a lot of us who knew about the personality kept being like “Jake Lockley???”

[@CT-1975]

Weekly episodes make you get hyped for the episodes instead of just mindlessly binging the whole thing in 1 day it makes you more attached to the show and get excited when the next episode comes out

[@parkhawl_]

I just subscribed after watching the Hercules and now I get a video about one of my favorite shows could this day and channel get any better?!

[@lvl5dino749]

apparently there is a deleted scene mentioning gorr explaining why some of the gods were missing, so maybe that's what happened to anubis

[@burnsstronghold7213]

I have a theory When aumit was banished here role was given to khonsu who was originaly just the protector now had amits role. Thats why khonsu has Amits role.

[@Miroslava_Ivanova]

To be fair, Layla was being shot at when she had one wing pinned and was using the other as a shield, that's why she couldn't get free earlier.

[@CalifornianCuttlefish]

Great Video! *Awesome Show! I'm glad you enjoyed it!*

[@youcansmile9213]

loved the vid and thoughts!

[@me3liveson55]

i love the funko in the back me and my cousin used to rewatch that scene in slowmo and laugh soo much haha have an amazing day i will now go back to my corner of reality

[@aydenchan2461]

Spoilers****** This is my theory for why we did not see the other gods in Moon Knight. The Ennead(in marvel) reside in the celestial Heliopolis that's why the gods are not seen in for example earth and the duat(i think) at the gates of Osiris that's why we did not see Osiris manning the gates as he reside in the celestial Heliopolis. and some contradictions can be made why is khonshu on earth? well he is a shamed god so he is probably not allowed. and secondly why is Tawaret manning the scales and not handling it remotely like Osiris well, maybe she is a guide and since in the show they said humans cant man it if they are not dead so the physical god needs to physically there but since osiris's gates is not as complicated as the manning the scales and the boat he can operate straight from the celestial Heliopolis.

[@Abominatrix650]

It's so nice to hear Moon Knight getting analysed! I binged it this summer and haven't had time to still my thoughts on it but this was good and helpful! Love your videos, would you review the mythology accuracies in Primeval Season 3? Episode 1 has an Egyptian theme! (Entire thing now available on Prime!)

[@human341]

The reason khonshu has a bird skull head is cuz he was like that in the comics

[@SpiderT16]

The thumbnail is just perfect

[@superiority_588]

The wings on the Layla suit were actually great, it makes more sense since Taweret makes her suit like thinking:"Make something Egyptian!",more then just make it me

[@yourlocalswarmofmoths]

They are actually because she was the avatar of isis in the comics

[@superiority_588]

@@yourlocalswarmofmoths Ok thanks didn't know that

[@adam-dn3hi]

14:52 he isnt out of the underworld he just took control of his avatar to speak in the trial the hippo goddess stated that osiris not going to like what shes doing implying his in the underworld

[@not.a.bot.]

*When Mark change into Moon Knight in 2nd ep if you closely look his shoulder you can see gold is sliding under it means it's not just mummy wrapped but also gold armour underneath it*

[@GlyuTomi0ka]

10:39 there was also another scene hinting torwards this at the very beginning, when Steven wakes up at the city with the scarab khonshu says “ go back to sleep worm “ and when he realizes it’s not the third personality he says “ oh no the idiots in control” .

[@OverlyPositiveFanboy]

Ammit: "Wait, how did you grow kaiju-size? I had to eat souls to do that." Khonshu: "It's night-time, bitch!"

[@netgettretoo]

Hi mythology guy I once Bing watched most of your videos

[@anteschoenberg6431]

The beauty of myths, they were attempts to explain the nature around the old men ,and the deep feelings within their heads and underneath their skulls

[@littleapricot9633]

moonknight did in fact have DID in the comics, though it wasnt talked about as often as it was in the show!

[@drewhugginsmusic423]

I find it funny that Egyptian mythologists made Taweret a hippo yet a kind goddess. And her Avatar is called the Scarlett Scarab in the show.

[@marche800]

Personally speaking I think the weekly episode release thing is wiser in the long run because while for some, like yourself, it is very annoying or inconvenient overall it gives the series time to breath and establish a culture online. People can talk about the episodes as they come and speculate about what will happen next. It gives each episode time to shine too. It's overall very healthy for the series and gives it longevity. A big reason why Netflix is failing currently is that people are complaining that even when their shows are good the hype surrounding them dies within a day because everyone is watching on a different schedule so people either binge it in a day and then are done with it or watching it at their own pace and avoid the internet like a plague to prevent being spoiled.

[@pandajaeger3079]

The reason Khonsu got bigger was because in the back ground it was a full moon which is why he didn't get absolutely destroyed like in the first fight

[@Gegey88]

love the content

[@not.a.bot.]

Layla had a red scarab in her neck Which is a stone that gives someone powers. There is a character named Scarlet scarab who use this.