Kia EV5 revealed with BYD Blade battery, 700km range & $20,600 price

Kia EV5 revealed with BYD Blade battery, 700km range & $20,600 price
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[@cocoaiscool2709]

I like how people always mocked car companies because it’s chinese but don’t do it when they don’t know what’s underneath, just shows how uninformed they are.

[@chillfluencer]

...also proves that they are racist.

[@fatdoi003]

Yeah... Their beloved Teslas also have Chinese batteries

[@zebraimage]

Not uninformed but intentionally prejudiced

[@passby8070]

I can see this is changing fast, I was in the market for a high end robo vac, the only products that fits the bill are Chinese brands... I am using DJI drone and action camera and my next car is likely to be a China made cars as it is going towards that direction fast.

[@backpackpepelon3867]

Those people most likely know, they're just pretending to be asleep out of envy, that's all.

[@narvuntien]

If they can get something like this out worldwide it will be a game changer. Getting those people who don't trust Chinese companies to go electric at a reasonable price

[@protagonist9716]

While having Chinese battery China will continue to win too

[@fatdoi003]

Talk about trust... The most expensive part is from a Chinese company....

[@rexko381]

IF there is no current battery technology break thru, the range of EV range = how many batteries EV has in the car. Simple math. Don't over thinking. Just like gas engine, the bigger the gas tank, the longer the range you could have.

[@narvuntien]

@@fatdoi003 People don't know that though

[@narvuntien]

@@rexko381 It is an ongoing steady improvement in battery technology rather than a step change. We are also seeing companies looking to change the way they do the rest of the car to increase efficiency

[@Joram0611]

The mentioned $20,600 price of the car, is only in China. Most Chinese cars (in Europe at least) tend to see prices that are roughly 80% more expensive than their Chinese prices. So in The Netherlands for example, the @20,600 would become roughly $37,000. I'm not sure what the US and AUS prices usually are compared to the Chinese pricing, but I bet it's a good chunk higher as well :)

[@brummiesalteno-81]

Yep, this will be €30-35000 in Europe.

[@ShadYYZ]

This makes me excited for the future of EVs and pricing.

[@rozonoemi9374]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[@BMWHP2]

Never happend so far. All China EV prices increased between 75% and 100% when they hit the EU.

[@moreybrown870]

heck- I'll buy it when I see it. (AWD, Extended range please... with a tow hich)

[@greggpon7466]

​@@BMWHP2to many middlemen bumping up the final price.

[@fatdoi003]

still prefer BYD Song L or Sea Lion look

[@chillfluencer]

That's a matter of personal preference.

[@blueslsd]

this will cost about 45,000 minimum in the UK I bet

[@dianapennepacker6854]

Yeah same with US since Kia isn't building them here. I love the EV6 GT. It definitely needs better range or else it would be perfect to me. Other vehicles like the Model Y or Mach E don't have the styling. The EV6 GT looks better in real life. Why would I need supercar performance for groceries? Well... I live in NJ and people act like they are race car drivers here.

[@BMWHP2]

Indeed, Everyone already knows, that China prices for EV's almost double when they are sold in the EU. This channel uses more and more clickbate.

[@Pit5336]

We should have own manufacturing sector but with britishvolt under there is no appetite for investment especially that we are out of EU. Hope there will be some sort of deal between EU UK and other nations in Europe that we could work together to manufacture high end goods like EV-s. At the moment China and others are poaching our best talents to work on their projects for which we are going to pay very high prices, I think USA is slowly waking up and bringing production back to their country

[@ISuperTed]

Yep. The Niro is over £35k here so guaranteed to be over £4k.

[@dombaker1924]

Definitely. Our government tax the crap out of everything.

[@chrishaberbosch1029]

Thanks for providing so much information on so many makes! You’re the best at this.

[@eddualmeida5790]

22K $ in China means around 35/40K $ in the US. Plus taxes.....

[@senoow4215]

60k in europe 😂😂

[@user-cc7so9cc1t]

I live in Belarus and can buy that car for 27 100$ (21 900 + 5200)

[@reeceagland1980]

If it came to Australia at around Au$40k it will be worth considering.

[@scottmcshannon6821]

only if its built in china. is kia building cars in china?

[@eddualmeida5790]

@@scottmcshannon6821 More than likely. I mean, everyone else is....

[@IA52342]

Hi Sam - as always, great information. As your friend, I must recommend "Honesty in Headlines" as the best policy. There is NO Kia with "700km range & $20,600 price" - PLEASE! Do not pop out more false headlines like this. PS: Does the V2G allow the Kia to power your house during a grid failure?

[@nzironman]

didn't he say the 20k version was 500k range and a upcoming Long range version had 700

[@IA52342]

I put it in quotes because I used copy/paste from the under headline. It is not consistent with his spoken words, which were true. Notice that I am only objecting to false headlines.@@nzironman

[@user-ty1on7dy7n]

I’m ok with the dodgy headlines - it’s eye catching

[@carlturner4344]

Your in luck Sam, blade battery is for EV 5 made in China, and they are coming to Aux, Europe gets the Korean made model, which does not have LFP battery. Hopefully that will change. Nice to see KIA becoming a real alternative to Tesla. More practical features, Parking sensors, now if Tesla opens up it's supercharger network or Tesla brings back parking sensors, could be a difficult choice.

[@xinyiquan666]

stop NS, kia is never alternative to tesla, everything of korean car is low quality but overpriced

[@mackan7086]

​@@xinyiquan666not true on any point

[@macmcleod1188]

If that price holds, then that's going to be my next car in 2 years. I can afford a car at that price level. And that range is amazing.

[@mestinks]

Living in queensland i wish manufacturers would offer a non glass roof, I need shade.

[@Gawriify]

from what was released to the "Car and Driver", "Motortrend" and others the starting price of the Kia EV5 in USA is $40k for Light RWD and goes up to $54k for GT-Line e-AWD.... so unless they want to loose money on it and they most likely will... it will not be anywhere near 20k in USA

[@Oompa_Output]

At that price I'd rather spend a bit more and get a model Y

[@gregkramer5588]

​@@Oompa_OutputKind of early to make that decision. In general I prefer kia.

[@Oompa_Output]

@gregkramer5588 my reasoning is the robotic potential of a Tesla vs anything else... FSD is coming... soon I hope.

[@gregkramer5588]

@@Oompa_Output What robotic potential? FSD is just one of many companies and they sure have no advantage in robots. If any car company does it would be Hyundai.

[@Oompa_Output]

@gregkramer5588 every Tesla since at least 2016 has the robotic ability to self drive. This, of course, is limited and disabled by the software for legal reasons... but when FSD arrives, now 95% of nearly 5 million built Tesla cars have robotic functionality. Hyundai has the edge because... they bought Boston dynamics... yeah, see if you think that in two more years. Only Tesla has built 5 MILLION robotic vehicles. Not even industrial robotics companies have produced this many.... Now as for FSD, only one company gets 60 million miles of training data daily from their fleet, only one company has millions of daily miles testing FSD, supervised, mind you. Only one company has designed and has Fabricated their own super GPU, to speed the learning. Only one company has built its own Gen 4 neuralnet chip in production, not prototype... Want to hazard a guess....

[@Jags22079]

That's how to price an EV ..... well done KIA

[@tibsyy895]

Will be 47000 Euros. Just checked it. So calm down!

[@Jags22079]

@@tibsyy895 not worth the excitement then 😒

[@tibsyy895]

@@Jags22079 When and if it will be 20.000 Euros, am gonna put up with the hustle to charge an EV!

[@experimental_av]

Seen the car in person yesterday at a reveal in Thailand. Very impressive, super good looking and very spacey inside. EV9 is cool but it’s too big if you do city driving outside North America imo.

[@nicosskoutellas]

The best 'value for money' EV so far. To buy this car even at 20% higher prices is vary reasonable deal.

[@BMWHP2]

Best value for money is the Citroën ë-C3 that will hit the EU markets in 2 months. €23k without subsidies. 200mls range and 100kW charging speed. This Kia EV5 will likely double in price when it hits EU markets. Chinese prices mean 0. That $21k will be more in the direction of $40K for the EU.

[@ChickensAndGardening]

@@BMWHP2 Also in U.S. - after taxes, import tariffs, dealer markups and competitive pricing strategy, this is a $40K car.

[@chillfluencer]

...yeah...the base model is around $50k in Germany.

[@chillfluencer]

​@@ChickensAndGardening$50k in Germany...base model.

[@user-cc7so9cc1t]

​@@BMWHP2so buy it in China, what's u problem?

[@Reddylion]

Awesome 👍kia.

[@MarksElectricLife]

If this hits Australia at $40k it’ll sell its arse off!

[@CaptBill69]

Awesome info. ...Looking Forward to good Tech Support and Longevity Reports; Plus Econ Prices for Mass Distributions. ... 🌠

[@oscara8111]

On my list are the KIA EV5, BYD Seal U and the BYB Sea lion. Just waiting to find when they are coming to Australia and AU$

[@bullshitbingo2259]

BYD is just shit bro

[@francoisgagne2651]

In Canada ( Québec), we still do not know what the price will be yet, but I am pretty sure it will kick ass...That is why I just put a 300$ Cdn deposit to be on the waiting list with my KIA dealer...Time to get rid of my gaz guzzling KIA Sorento EX+ V6 2017.

[@Sacto1654]

I wonder has BYD considered a North American plant for their blade-type batteries. If they do, even Tesla may buy these batteries for the Model 3 and Y North American models.

[@fatdoi003]

Too risky to place high tech factory in u.s may considered national security risk and BYD will lose everything

[@user-jh6vt8vx4v]

​@@fatdoi003😂right on, dial the clock back 10 years. Byd will jump on it. After the huawei treatment. Most Chinese firm will hrsitate putting too much capital in the states

[@didyuknow]

how about havuing the factories in their own country where private ownership of anything of a reasonable size is only temporary at most? see alibyebye,. @@user-jh6vt8vx4v

[@saleh45251]

Review the new zeekr 007…that’s a proper car…

[@andrewowen-price4496]

Any indication of boot capacity?

[@mrmawson2438]

Afternoon mate

[@martiruda]

Beautiful!

[@mrmawson2438]

Well done Kia

[@mrmawson2438]

Cheers mate

[@Mububban23]

GIMME GIMME GIMME!!! While I'd prefer an electric station wagon, something this size with a boxy shape could still be a good practical vehicle, while not being overly huge in size. And if it arrives in 2024 with a $35k price and BYD LFP battery, I'm probably going to buy one. But I can't see this being less than $50k AUD.

[@BMA967]

Now, I'm interested in Kia

[@didyuknow]

level 2+ = 10+KW charge rate? Level 2 chargers real charging capabilities are as much as 50A nowadays (for 60A breakers). x240V = 12 KW. They may have level 2+ capabilities but it doesnt mean most people will be able to use with most using 50A breakers (charge limited to 42A = 10 KW). another limit in AC charging is the car inverter capabilities with some cars only handling up to 8 KW. The first EVs were only able to handle 3200 to 3600 W standard so this would be helpfuil. But the interesting thing toi know would be their DC charging capabilities as superchargers usually deliver 110 KW or up toi 250 KW for big vehicles.

[@samonnchhaytea8157]

When's it's go to the markets for sale like one ❤

[@ivandoneshefsky4762]

Motormouth just interviewed 2 Hyundai Ionic 5 owners who had their cars totaled for battery damage. The replacement cost from Hyundai Canada dealers was over $61,000 Canadian versus the original cost of the car which was in the lower 50’s? They both ran over something and damaged the undercarriage protection panel. Insurance company totaled both cars. I encourage everyone to watch these videos on Motormouth. EV’s are good in theory but in an accident or in the case of the Ionic 5’s that were totaled by insurance, not worth it especially in cold winter areas.

[@markfowler2066]

Hyundai owns 33.8% of Kia Motors. Both Hyundai and Kia have plants in Alabama and Georgia, respectively. The current US HQ is in Irvine, California. I am in Chattanooga, Tennessee and many here have been patiently waiting for the two companies to share a common EV platform built at both plants. We anticipate the US HQ will move here with the common EV platform. We already have Korean Barbecue chains, what are they waiting for? PS: Tennessee and Alabama would love to have the Design Center in Irvine come here. Their people will love it, cost of living is a tiny fraction of what they are paying now and the quality of life is amazing. Did I mention we are both Right-to-work states?

[@glukes9]

They do share a common EV platform. KIA EV6 and IONIC 5 are the same platform, they also share the same motors and battery with 800 Volt architecture, only the bodies and interior are different.

[@markfowler2066]

Your thinking is right on track, however they will need to learn how to change and adapt much faster. Work backwards from 1 to 2 years from now, they must have standardized to a much greater degree across brands, greatly reduced production costs, found really good AI programmers, or not survive. Some amazing entrepreneurs and some of the smartest software people I have ever met are just up the road hidden away in Chattanooga. KIA has failed financially before, hopefully they have learned. My wife has owned three KIAs in a row and is praying for them.@@glukes9

[@AllDogsAreGoodDogs]

And as soon as the car companies capitalize on right-to-work, your wages will plummet.

[@andyyellykohler2535]

Is the EV5 coming to the US?

[@christopherj2231]

Magic stuff.

[@PassportToPimlico]

So we will soon have cheap (ish) EVs from Kia, Volvo and Citroen, probably with others to follow. However, the Tesla Model 2 is also on the way and this might prove an irresistible force.

[@didyuknow]

intesting enough a Kia without the Key security issue most shy away from.

[@didyuknow]

This will accelerate the Tesla model2 for sure. Tesla's super charger network size will soon need to be expanded and increased at some high demand sites.

[@alexishart1989]

That price plus 20% @ AUD $35,000 would be so awesome. Unfortunately, it seems to be more like China price plus 100% by the time EVs make it here. 😢

[@justinzoskey6871]

Sounds amazing but also to good to be true

[@kevinn1158]

22k where? Not in Canada. This thing is going to be 50-60k dollars here.

[@Scrappyhoops]

Once they increase the range i see everyone making the switch. No one wants to wait to charge every 250 to 300 miles. But 500 to 700 miles no one should have a problem on waiting to charge

[@greggpon7466]

At under 30k in your country it is a winner.

[@douglaswatt1582]

At least $45-50k in USA, probably more. At even that first figure, it's a winner

[@dexlab7539]

Not at $50K

[@user-de1fu4vi9s]

No, KIA are considered as cheap car in US. Expectations are for their cars to be 25k to 40k. Any greater and people here with switch brands.

[@johnables1902]

This one may be worth waiting for. Too bad Tesla does not make a body style that is as practical.

[@vvvci]

Selling a few thousand(s) of these at that price sure generates headlines... free publicity to offset any (real) losses! Even it it comes in at $40,000 for U.S. sale, it is still an attractive price with very little competition in the Electric mini-van segment. Which - EV mini-vans - I think will be THE HUGE future EV segment, you still see 20+ year old Chevy Astros on the road, but with an EV you will have even better reliability and far less maintenance and (fuel) costs

[@Victic005]

Bring it to the US. It will sell well.

[@johnhedge1429]

I think the most exciting part of this is that the car supports L2G and L2H. The most depressing part is KIA wont bring it to Australia with that capability as our state legislators have got their heads firmly stuck in the sand!

[@bass9901]

the kona electric is like 2x this price probably there more in 40k >usd 50k> can or aus

[@supamario3055]

Wishful thinking. That price is probably for a small battery. If the EV9 is over 100K, we will get versions of the EV5 that range from 70 to 85K for a top spec AWD. Then an EV5 GT for 95K

[@newev]

64.2 Kwh

[@r1pperuk]

In the UK this will be £45k

[@solarwiseph4573]

I Had this

[@dr.x4050]

Level 2+ autonomous driving is the same as level 3. EXCEPT, the driver is still always in control for legal reasons.

[@mattbba8451]

Go KIA.

[@leedaq7767]

In Korea they can get over $10k subsidy from their gov and we in Aus getting sht nothing

[@andders2477]

the Soul and Niro both cost 46 t.euroWith 64 kWh so this one with 88 kWh will be expensive in EU.

[@BMWHP2]

$21.000 in China will be around €40.000 in the EU. When it has the same increase as all the other Chinese cars that came to Netherlands. Those almost doubled in price from China $ to EU €. Seems a little to big and heavy car for that 700km, so indeed with that 60kWh battery pack around 450 to 500km. To me, just an other large and boring 4 door EV, that for €44k, is like unobtainium for the masses. Lets see if that will realy be below $25k when it hits the EU. Want to bet? So far, the only EV in the B segment cars, with a 300km range that stayed below €25.000 is the Citroën ë-C3. A good and affordable €23k EV that, on this channel, is not spoken about.

[@user-ty1on7dy7n]

Good point - and with better batteries will probably sell for 20k by 2025

[@The_Observer72]

Always the price doubled when hitting the Nordic market.

[@gavinprowse6684]

35 fttt! Now they are saying $60000 Australian. So 3 times the price. Oz gets ripped off again

[@wassiswallylokhankin191]

By the time it reaches North American customers, it is likely to cost at least twice as much.

[@peterforshaw2560]

£50k in Uk I’m guessing.

[@ivorjohnbeynon3185]

I own a mg exclusive can't fault it

[@jkim5746]

Depending on what the "real" overall range is for this, it might trump their EV9. The EV9's range is practically a joke for that size...they needed to up the size of their packs and/or have this blade battery in it. Without it I'd think the Ev5 would be the better choice, though it would be smaller than the EV9...but let's see I guess? P.S. i predict the EV9 is a flop, had me and wifey and other family/friends waiting and the range alone/battery made us all cancel, oh well

[@Soulboy63]

EV 9 is £70 k , to much

[@stockey]

Cybertruck bigger flop.

[@ambessashield9360]

Price will be x2.5 in Europe

[@mickzed6393]

BYD fast becoming BEV kings.

[@andrewsoper6057]

Those range figures down a hill with the wind behind you? Big car like that gonna chug through kwhs on the motorway

[@petersimms4982]

ICE age over time 😂 the airs getting cleaner day by day by about 50,000 EVs a day 😊

[@ronmatthews2164]

Tesla needs to build an under $ 25,000 a.s.a.p. and that will help move the transition to Evs a lot faster.

[@martiruda]

impossible. Elon musk needs higher markup to pay for his trip to mars

[@TwinntechFreeTV]

uncle tony debate?

[@chillfluencer]

Base model will cost 47.000 Euro in Germany. Otherwise a very fine car - and finally Koreans are using LFP!

[@danhanks2936]

Auto dealers in America will sell it at sixty thousand. Theft?

[@saleh45251]

It will fail in China…interior of this car looks like it is from last century when compared to interior of Chinese cars…

[@user-kf3zv8ps6q]

worse. We will ask why buy a Korean car. It is the reality in China.

[@havencat9337]

this price you can not get anywhere else... its just cheaper there

[@ryanreeves70]

Your getting some sun i see..

[@N0rdman]

If KIA can get something like this to Europe at about the same price point, only adding European VAT, it surely would be game changing. China does have 10% VAT if I remember correctly, but I suspect that KIA does like VW, keeping the prices artificially low in China just to stay in the market and is counting on doubling the price in EU. I don't see the advantage of staying in a market were you loose money, essentially letting the rest of the world subsidize cars for the Chinese consumers that is more and more getting more nationalistic, shunning European and American products for domestic. Withdraw from the Chinese market and let them compete and kill off each other or do the necessary consolidation instead of making the cars more expensive elsewhere. In the end the Chinese will take over all production in China otherwise, all the partners get killed off and the production capacity becomes all Chinese, after that the rest of the world can kiss another sector goodbye just like we've seen with so many other products that is possibly designed elsewhere but all made in China. That would kill off everything but design, possibly some engineering and service sector and that heavily dominated by black or grey market cheap imported labour, often working without a proper contract.

[@lesnypatrol7292]

With this shape, this car needs 90kWh to reach 660km WLTP

[@mattchristie1810]

Oh Sam, this is where so many EV sceptics start ripping this stuff apart. Headline - 700km range, then you say real world 500km WLTP, but real world is typically 35% less than WLTP, making actual range 335km. Take off 25km safety margin to find charger/aggressive driving, and you're now talking 310km! We're now way below 50% of the headline figure, and to top it off, this is 'best speculation'. As much as I like your news and views, this is all fantasy. I long for the day there's a genuine 700km range, but it's not today!

[@tibsyy895]

Just checked it. In Europe it will start from €47.000 I'll pass. Would never pay that much for a car. Knowing in China it costs literally half as much!

[@petersimms4982]

The oil companies keep putting their prices up to compensate for lost revenue, robbing their gas customers blind! Criminals 😮

[@dexlab7539]

It will be $65K in US 😣

[@stumckhall]

It’s a winner but it won’t be $35k in Oz

[@i6power30]

Beware Sam quotes USD if he wants to make a point about affordability of the car, but uses AUD when he wants to make a point how expensive the car is. lol

[@t-lm]

last nail in the coffin for the Western car industry and it is not even Chinese car

[@Pit5336]

If thats the price I would buy it today, my 5y old diesle engine needs carbon cleaning and it is going to cost 1.5k pounds thats like 1700 USD EGR probably needa to be replaced +1000 USD so there you have

[@stickynorth]

One more step towards Kia being taken over by BYD... ;-)

[@yggdrasil9039]

Bring it to Australia rather than that tank the EV9

[@johnpej122]

No chance this car is 35k aud. Not when an ev6 is 90k, ev9 120k? This car will be around 55 to 70k for sure

[@DaMomento]

If this sells for around 35k it will sell like hot cakes

[@drxym]

20 grand in China so 50 grand everywhere else

[@trex1448]

Chinese batteries have been around for a long time. Not a big deal.

[@rozonoemi9374]

I think the Volvo XC30 will be a better EV.

[@glukes9]

The XC30 is also a Chinese car, Owned by China and made in China. Volvo and Polestar are only considered to be middle class electric vehicles in China.

[@connclissmann6514]

It has become tiring to hear of Chinese prices for EVs. From what I read, they don't include all charges and taxes to put the car in the road, as car prices advertised in Europe must do (excluding modest delivery charges such as number plates, etc.). I might as well say an iPhone costs $100 plus just $1000 iOS fee to allow you to activate it. What are the regulations about car price advertising in Australia? Do you really expect this car to reach Australia for anything like this headline price?

[@paulholterhaus7084]

I thought Kia was Korean..???.................Paul

[@DbeeSapphire]

If I was to buy an EV, which I can’t afford, it would be a Tesla. Simply because of the potential of FSD. If KIA purchased the use of FSD, then maybe, due to affordability. Or just wait for the 25,000 Tesla.

[@gregkramer5588]

I thought Tesla is not leading in self driving. top handful of companies maybe

[@DbeeSapphire]

@@gregkramer5588 Watching videos on Tesla’s latest FSD beta software, I feel Tesla has the greatest advantage. I feel their neural network teaching itself to drive by watching driving videos is pretty advanced stuff.

[@elvisdave2004]

Kia history on Warranty and Customer Complaints are High so cost to maintain the car will over run the cheap price and cost the buyer more long term! Just ask previous buyers about Kia poor quality and Kia refusing to honor Warranty claims!

[@freddybell8328]

That wheelbase is awful

[@Itsallgoodtogo]

To bad they will double the price once it reaches the western world.

[@lukeryan559]

Lol 530 cltc is going to be nowhere near 500 wltp and it'll be lucky to be 400km in real world range. Chinese range estimates often lose about 30% in the real world

[@JK-oc9qc]

i am laughing. 440miles for 22k in china, good luck.