Kia EV6 & EV9 Getting Tesla Supercharger Access in January

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[@GraysonA]

The biggest problem is that EV6 and EV9 are 800V so they'll charge at less than 100 kW at Tesla Superchargers, and there is no date in sight for when Tesla will upgrade to V4 1000V.

[@keegan854]

Also the short cables mean you often have to take up two stalls. I'll still prefer EA when available, but it's great to have Superchargers as an option in case EA is broken or isn't located where you need it. (Ironically, on my last 2,000 mile road trip, EA performed damn near flawlessly while the only charging failure that occurred was on a Magic Dock Supercharger). I've similarly used the 62.5/125 kW ChargePoint stations to bridge gaps in the EA network -- if you are just topping up and not doing a full 10% to 80% charge, it's not really much slower.

[@56oval]

Excited to use the new V4 chargers in Park City when they open the network. They all have the CCS adapters built in and have long enough cords to park properly for the most part.

[@GraysonA]

@@56oval They are probably V4 cabinets with V3 hardware, so still 400V

[@nitrobenz1694]

@@keegan854with Chevy already on the SC network and not particularly incentivized toward EA there’s going to be plenty of “wrong corner” EVs at SC stations. As long as we’re parking next to each other it mitigates that extra stall issue, especially if you start the line with the stall at the end.

[@keegan854]

@@nitrobenz1694 Right, also most Supercharger stations aren't that busy most of the time. But it was a problem when I was in Marion, IL for the total solar eclipse and practically everyone who drove an EV of any brand had to charge at a single Supercharger site with 6 stalls 😅

[@blast3001]

Just bought my 2024 Ioniq 5 on September 3. I wonder what Hyundai will announce.

[@tombudetti5502]

Even when they start manufacturing with NACS port you will still need an adapter to charge at CCS stations. So, no matter what for the foreseeable future you need an adapter of some sort either way.

[@chycoll]

Most "CCS" chargers in the future will also have a NACS cable in addition to the CCS cable.

[@tombudetti5502]

@@chycoll that's why I wrote "foreseeable future'

[@tkmedia3866]

@@chycollsure but will still be handy if one of the plugs are broken or problematic … will have a adapter ready. At least for the next maybe 5-10 years when enough Combo CCS1 plug cars are still driving around.

[@chycoll]

@tombudetti5502 I believe your understanding of "foreseeable future" is off...it's typically used an expression that means as far into the future as can be predicted or as far into the future as can be imagined or planned for.

[@tombudetti5502]

@@chycoll I believe you have too much time on your hands

[@TheDraconiuslives]

Rivian networn would be great addition. Already CCS.

[@alsey7]

Don't worry all of us Bolt owners taking all the spots at Tesla superchargers

[@markshellard]

Sad now that I got my EV9 in July but LOVE my car!

[@gregpalmer9949]

The adapters are not that expensive, but it would be more exciting if they said they had a fix to the Tesla slow charging

[@jeffjackson6358]

Already received an A2Z adapter I purchased hoping this news would come sooner than later. I won’t pay for a Tesla charging station until I use up my two years at EA or travel cross country. But it will definitely be a nice back up!

[@the_red_key8825]

Glad to be getting the access for sure, but it would have been nice if they could have opened up the network before the holidays. Lots of planned travel could have been that much easier! And yes, the weird cutoff date for free chargers is a but mind boggling but I don't have any issue just going ahead and paying for an adapter for our EV9. Having just completed a road trip this weekend to Orlando Florida, Tesla network access would have made the trip SOOO much easier!

[@RobertHamilton59]

Hey Corbin. Hope Hyundai is the same. Keep your ear to the ground for Canada. It's supposed to be NORTH AMERICAN not just USA charging standard.

[@davidkreim6544]

Thank you Corbin..Glad to know we Kia/Hyundai EV owners will soon get access to the Tesla Supercharger network. I understand that we can expect only about a 100kwh max charging rate with the 800V architecture. Is there any news on how or when this may be increased? I appreciate all your content!

[@kirkschumacher9180]

Very happy Jan 15th amd not mid 2025 with Supercharger staff disruption. Bought EV6 in Aug 2024. Wont cry over $250 adaptor to double network.

[@junehanzawa5165]

Double? More like 7 times the amount of high speed plugs. And they work. Just plug it and it works.

[@Yanquetino]

Since the 2025 models will come with a J3400 port, seems like a given that the adapters will be forthcoming. What's irksome is that Hyundai is still not listed on Tesla's NACS page for "coming soon." BTW, on a roadtrip last week, a camouflaged prototype plugged in next to us at an Electrify America site. I suspect it was a Hyundai Ioniq 9, sister EV to the Kia EV9, but I also suspect from what I could see that it was plugged in with a CCS1-to-J3400 adapter, i.e., it had a J3400 port!

[@StephenByersJ]

I guess I didn’t expect them to give free adapters to everyone (although definitely would be nice), but limiting that to only sales made in the last 20 days seems lame. I would have expected them to go back to when they made the announcement that they were switching to J3400 on future model years.

[@Ally-d5k]

Any idea when we can expect to get wireless Android Auto in the Ioniq 5 guys ??

[@stevedurnal3703]

Hello, My son and daughter in law in Bozeman MT are considering a new model Y. I am also considering to suggest an EV6 as an alternative to the Y. It’s great to see the basic supercharger compatibility issues being addressed. The 400V vs. 800/1000V issue may be a road block for them though as V4 chargers will be non existent in their region for the foreseeable future. From what I’ve seen elsewhere the V2 or V3 charge rates will make roadtrip “fast charging” stops not very doable with a 6 month on board. Can you do an episode going into you take on this situation?

[@joyousenoful]

Do we know when superchargers will he available for Hyundai Ioniqs? Thanks

[@BillChandos]

I don't believe the software update implies "plug and charge". I expect it to be like GM vehicles where you still need to interact with the app to initiate each charge.

[@in1accord]

Corbin- Any info about Genesis vehicles yet?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Nope, nothing yet

[@giovanniLaudicina]

I wish someone would put chargers in the tri-city area of North East Tennesse.

[@traceycarter5670]

What about Hyundai ionic s? When will this happen.

[@commanderroddi7742]

The question is: HOw fast (or rather, SLow) will 800 volt cars charge on Superchargers that don't do more than 500? I belive the 18K chargers Teslad will add will be V3 that are mostly 500 volts? so, slower charging? 100kwh? 140 kwh? (I'd gets somewhere in between that? but I've heard people say 80-90 Kwh chargers, which would work on emergencies, but, is that worth it, and is Kia/Hyundai doing anything to fix that?)

[@coolspace2136]

I'm hoping the EV3 will integrate with NACS smoothly since it's being released after all this takes place. That's the car for me.

[@stevevansak7324]

This is quite the surprise! I was convinced that this would all run late and it would be a Spring 2025 kick off. I’m an IONIQ 5 owner and I’d love to hear a statement from them soon. My guess is that Hyundai owners could “trick” the charger like you said, but it would probably have to be the Tesla app being used for payment. A use for Hyundai Pay? We shall see.

[@tariq3077]

More chargers is always better. Good to hear this news

[@soumilkadam9310]

Is it mandatory to register for track? Can we just come to the event to speak with other EV owners? Also, are hybrids, plug-in hybrids and even ICE Hyundais & Kias welcome?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

No, the track is totally optional. Other cars can come as spectators but will be required to pay a $10 cash entry fee.

[@kimballwhite]

This is a good surprise! I was getting worried it would be pushed further and further back next year. That is total trash that you only get an adapter for cars bought after September 4th, because all five E-GMP cars across our extended family were bought before April 2024. Oh well! At least we'll have access soon. Also it will be interesting to see what happens to ChaDeMo. I think it will pretty much be gone after CCS stations begin adding NACS.

[@keegan854]

Some new EA stations are already being built without CHAdeMO.

[@kimballwhite]

@@keegan854 Good point. Out here in Utah 4 new EA stations have been put in, none have ChaDeMo.

[@tkmedia3866]

There are no chademo to NACS yet, but I wonder if stacking adapters will work.

[@keegan854]

@@tkmedia3866 The CCS1 (charger) to CHAdeMO (car) adapter is like $1000 because it has to do a protocol conversion and not just a change of physical connector. NACS to CHAdeMO would have the same issue. How many people are still road-tripping CHAdeMO cars in the US and want to spend that kind of money on an adapter instead of upgrading to a newer car that would charge much faster and better?

[@gilleslaforme7771]

Do you know if it will be the same for us in canada because I will have mine next week by the way you are doing a good and interesting job ❤

[@duainabbott7746]

Do you have a discount code for A2Z adapters?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I don’t. Sorry

[@jeffreykregel3821]

Also the Kia Niro EV will be able to use Tesla Superchargers starting January 15, 2025. Of course with NACS adapter.

[@ScottTaylor-n6f]

Good news and hope to hear similar news about Hyundai shortly!

[@dianewallace6064]

Thanks, Corbin

[@robh5409]

Hopefully the Niro will have access Jan 15th. I may have to run over and test it when it's announced.

[@jeffreykregel3821]

In a statement it was mentioned the Niro EV will gain access as well.

[@robh5409]

@@jeffreykregel3821 I figured it probably will and will require using the Tesla app, and if Kia updates the Kia Access App to add a find chargers section to it. Either way I'm expecting the same experience as GM. No plug and charge.

[@sprockkets]

It seems like the Honda Prologue gets to charge on SC already, somehow. I'll just buy a lectron adapter. I guess State of Charge's 30 dollar off thing will be handy.

[@robertharman4938]

Well the Honda is just a rebadged Chevy Blazer so it got access when GM did last week. As Corbin said Hyundai owners may be able to trick the Tesla system by entering their car as an EV6 and be able to charge regardless of an actual Hyundai announcement by mid January. This is what I have seen Honda owners report doing to use the Tesla network

[@sprockkets]

@robertharman4938 well, it is, but, technically, it's not.

[@CarlosMoreno-bn4tr]

NOW WE CAN TRAVEL ALL OVER THE USA EV ARE GETTING BETTER THANK GOD

[@michaelballdrums]

So, this would imply that another infotainment system software update will be coming before the end of the year. I also wish they'd extend the free offer to ALL 2024 EV6s as I got mine in May 2024.

[@DanTheEVMan]

As a owner of a 2019 Kia Niro EV, I do have a couple of questions that are not clear from the press release. 1 - Is some sort of Kia Connect status required? Currently, my Kia Connect is Inactive, and I don't think that if a plan is required I would be willing to pay for the Kia Connect subscription just to get access to the SuperChargers. 1a - I hope will still be able to use the Tesla app to start charging. Given the reliability of the Kia app, I don't want to have to trust that will work to get a charge. 2 - The press release does say that 2019-2024 Niro vehicles need to go to the dealer for a software upgrade. Do we know when the dealers will have this software? Are we going to need to wait until 1/15/2025 to start scheduling appointments for the new software, or is this something they have now?

[@DouginaBoxster]

Do you (or anyone) know if the EV6's port location means you can park "in line" with other Teslas or will you need to take up two spots (like us Mach-E owners)? I know it's on the rear, but those V3 supercharger cords are very short and I'm curious if they'll reach.

[@bloodycreepy]

free is all well and good but not when it takes 6-8 moths to receive the adapter. I say buy an adapter and then sign up for your free one and have a back up when it arrives.

[@brianp493]

Can you use the CCS -> NACS adapter on destination chargers, or only the specific slow charge adapter?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

You need a separate adapter as the Level 3 pins are not the same ones used for Level 2 charging with CCS. That is the separate J1772 charging standard.

[@duainabbott7746]

Corbin I have a Kia ev6 2022, should I order an A2Z adapter now to beat the rush. It sounds like you are certain that the 2022 will not be getting a free adapter, bummer.

[@sebrofc]

Kia and Free don't belong in the same sentence.

[@Wiseguy1138]

So......what about Canadian 2023 Kia Soul EV drivers? Because I can't find ANY news about this for us.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

This announcement was specifically to the US. You'll likely hear someting from Hyundai Canada at some point.

[@alsjogren7890]

Mexico superchargers??? Specifically Santa Ana, Sonora?

[@jmattos]

Honestly, I'm totally fine buying an adapter from the best adapter manufacturer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ im so excited for access to the supercharger network/ hopefully the cables are long enough that we don't end up blocking extra spots.

[@joes3800]

Leased my EV9 starting in July. It does seem a but shifty to be left out of a free adapter. I assume it will cost me $200? (They could at least offer a good discount!)

[@d.pollard5962]

@@joes3800 same we bought in March 2024, smh

[@CoFRTheGamerXxX]

Adapters? I though they were going to be standard NACS (Or was the announcement months ago just Hyundai?)

[@TheIoniqGuy]

2025 EV6 will but all waiting EV6 and EV9 don’t. EV9 likely won’t get a NACS port until later next year or the following year

[@CoFRTheGamerXxX]

@@TheIoniqGuy That's really too bad... The wife is debating the EV9 for her Acadia replacement, I guess we'll wait another year. I will more than likely have the Ioniq 5 for my next vehicle though.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Nice! Going to get the 2025 Ioniq 5?

[@CoFRTheGamerXxX]

@@TheIoniqGuy Pretty much... Canadian prices are insane for the 5 as they are, but maybe I can score a decent deal come Nov/December on the 25. The wiper alone will be worth it... hahahaha

[@kimballwhite]

@@CoFRTheGamerXxX The lease deals have been pretty aggressive lately, I wouldn't let the lack of a native NACS port drive me away from it, since if you get a NACS model you will probably need a CCS to NACS adapter, versus a NACS to CCS. Either way you'll probably need one. We have a 2024 EV9 GT-Line and love it.

[@treads2595]

This is only a good thing in case of an emergency. As long as Tesla has the slower charging than what the Kia/Hyundai cars can accept, I don't see this as the game changer that Corbin thinks that it is.

[@keegan854]

@@treads2595 Even aside from emergencies, since Supercharger stations are so numerous, there are a lot of trips where a quick top up at a Supercharger would bridge a route planning gap. If you are just topping up and not going 10% to 80% then 100 kW is fine. I've done this at Magic Dock Superchargers and at ChargePoint DC units.

[@Molishious]

Any hope that the problem of e-gmp charging slowing on the Tesla superchargers being solved and time soonish?

[@AaronThomasMedia]

how will this work for FAST CHARGING? right now i can get 70 % in 14 mins... how will this work at TESLA Super Charging?

[@robertharman4938]

You will get a max of 97kW. So the charging will be slower. The SC network is 400v chargers so this limits the 800v cars potential. When Tesla start to update to 1000v chargers like most others then that will change but there are very few 1000v SC in the ground today

[@davebryer6133]

Will it be all Tesla Superchargers or only some of them?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I think it’s only some of them

[@GraysonA]

So existing owners prior to 9/4/24 will not be getting them free? That sucks, but $200 is not too bad.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Nope

[@BeepasGarage]

It's $200?? That is a lot.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

When you consider what the adapter actually is it is a lot of money but what you're really paying for is the extremely expensive UL/ETL certification process. I used to work testing/certifying fire safety electrical cables and the cost to run these tests would blow your mind.

[@BeepasGarage]

@@TheIoniqGuy Sure, but from a consumer standpoint, early adopters of these new vehicles should come with some kind of reward. I suppose we did get free charging and these new cars will not.., I guess I just thought they would sell them at cost.

[@GraysonA]

@@BeepasGarage Price unknown, but the A2Z one is $200 and the one GM is selling is $225

[@svenskenh644]

Today I took my EV6 for a longer roadtrip. OMG how lousy the navigation system is! The built in route planner is useless! The car wanted me to charge at 66 % SOC!!!! And next time as 33 %! Never below 20 %!!! I never want to charge above 10 %. Give me an icon for manual heating for the battery (DC battery charging optimisation). This has to be fixed ASAP! How can a random swedish dude be better at this than Kia/Hyundai engineers!? Yes I am referring to A Better Route Planner App…

[@d.pollard5962]

Same with our EV9

[@WestCoastChicano]

Free? Dammit GM! 😵‍💫

[@jmattos]

a track up to highway speeds?. um. okay.

[@glenngore6609]

Well, rats, I guess this indicates that my ‘22 Ioniq 5 till not be able to use the Tesla Supercharger network. Oh well, there is only one Supercharger within 100 miles of here anyway, only one in the entire western half of Oklahoma, and it’s just a V2, so access to the Supercharger network was never going to be a real thing for me. Enjoy.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

With all this Elon Political crap I almost traded my 2023 Model Y AWD for a Kia EV9, but we in Canada still have big DC fast charging issues in BC and somewhat in Alberta, reliability and access has fallen in the last year (heaver use has lead to more downtime and longer waits in charging Que), I was hoping it had improved so for now I will not be trading in my Model Y as that is my road tripper. I would gladly use Tesla chargers as they have been so reliable! Hope they get the 800 volt issue resolved soon though on Tesla superchargers!

[@garble7]

We don't have charging issues in BC. At least not my part of BC. BC Hydro Chargers are FANTASTIC, and are literally everywhere

[@jeffs.9299]

Stay in Canada

[@berthogendoorn2133]

@@garble7 BC Hydro is just now introducing 360KW chargers, yes they have a lot of 50KWH and some 100KWH even very limited 180KWH but limited to 200 amps which means 90KWH when I plug in my Tesla, but on most highway routes they are not sufficient for the volume of EV's we now have in the province.

[@Mguy393]

I'm eager to never use Tesla's network. I don't want my money going to fElon. I've had no problems with this long living sight super charger access.