Kia Sorento Mechanical Review

Here’s a look at the mechanicals of the Kia Sorento!
The Kia Sorento features a 2.5L Turbocharged 4 cylinder engine with an 8 speed dual clutch automatic transmission. In this video, we take a detailed look at the setup under the hood and underneath the vehicle to see what I would be like if you were to own one of these vehicles and what would be involved in maintaining it. The topics covered include the air intake system, ignition, fuel, oil, turbocharger and exhaust, timing chain and belt drive, transmission, suspension, driveline and brakes.
Overall the Kia Sorento is a decent contender in its class. Its build quality is average but there are definitely some corners cut while making sacrifices for Kia’s value oriented proposition while maintaining safety and emissions regulations. An increase in longevity would be welcome as this brand sits in the shadow of numerous engine recalls amongst an increasingly unreliable 2.5T/8DCT combination as time wears on.
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0:00 Introduction
0:39 Under Hood
8:12 Under Body
11:59 Suspension
15:03 Behind the wheels
18:10 Conclusion
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[@toby2581]

Cars get more and more expensive every year and yet can't even be bothered to provide dipsticks for fluids. Truly incredible.

[@jabjab12]

And parts used to be aluminum no are made of plastic

[@speedkar99]

Agreed. More profit for the automaker

[@spencercoleman4444]

Hell yeah another video from toothbrush man

[@landshass2849]

This man changed my life! I started to collect all toothbrushes for the whole family and reuse it, in things other than teeth brushing.

[@speedkar99]

Toothbrushes are useful! It's wisdom!

[@scott8919]

The Toothbrush Technician.

[@k-9unit17]

😂😂😂, you got it.

[@k24wkevin]

I definitely agree with the timing chain disclaimer. Just because you have a timing chain, doesn’t mean you can neglect maintenance.

[@justapeasant8949]

They used to made timing chains that would last as the engine itself (with proper oil change intervals, naturally). Times have changed, I guess...

[@speedkar99]

I agree....many of the engines I teardown on this channel failed because of timing chain related issues

[@Devilacme]

The one of the few brands that had timing chains that actually lasted was Saab. Had 2 of those. On the 900 the noise it made was rough but that's just how it was. No need to actually worry about timing problems. These days I would take belt over chain anytime. Seems like the belt in some engines lasts longer than many chains. And at least in older Volvos changing the belt was really not an issue.

[@bonjournaste]

Agree as well. I can appreciate the idea of making a 300,000 kms maintenance free, disposable vehicle, but I miss when they cared about NVH. These timing chains and direct injectors clacking away make everything sound so cheap. With these 8 speed transmissions now, they could reduce output by 20% and would still be more than adequate. Would trade a bit of output for refinement.

[@MattExzy]

My current car has a timing chain that I generally don't think about. But I do prefer cars with belts, because then it has a defined service interval and is relatively simple to replace. With chains it's all a bit 'whatever'.

[@ladalout245]

I had to have a new clutch fitted to my 2022 Kia CEED (AKA Hyundai i30 here in UK) under warranty last year and came across a great guy in the service dept who really knew his stuff and was fairly complimentary about the reliability of the newest Kia's overall, but he did describe the DCT transmissions as "absolutely horrific" and best avoided. He also admitted he drives a 2018 VW Golf. Another great review by the way!

[@speedkar99]

Thanks and good to know there are more people with DCT issues.

[@captiantim1]

Outstanding insight into reliability and long-term maintenance

[@speedkar99]

Thanks. I hope people review the underside before making a choice

[@Emphasis213]

Your mechanical reviews of vehicles are one of the best. Most youtube videos dont review the mechanical aspects of vehicles which can tell the users how well built a vehicle is.

[@Fred-F4]

The best mechanical review of Kia Sorento/Hyundai Santa fe on youtube. Thank you so much for the info

[@speedkar99]

Thanks! I have a Santa Fe video, check that one out too

[@Fred-F4]

@@speedkar99 Do you recommend any DIYer scan tool up to 1000$ that can do DCT oil change operations on these new Kia/Hyundai's?

[@salemcitadel]

That review was awesome, very thorough and unbiased...the rain tho, you forgot to mention it

[@speedkar99]

Rain?

[@CDeuce152]

My 2021 EX with the 2.5T-GDI & AWD is my very first new car purchase. It still holding up better as I'm nearing 25,000 miles. Seeing the prototypes running around Nürburgring is part of why I bought the Sorento. I told my mom I wanted to move on to my next car and use my employer's purchase program because she wasn't happy at our local Dodge dealer (3/2018, not much changed there, if not worse) screwing up the financing. I did takeoff that lower front aero-pan during my first oil change not noticing the access cover for the oil drain plug.

[@luckyguy600]

I do like your reviews. You cover everything that is there and comment along the way on items that you deem great or poor. No sugar coating, just the facts mame.

[@sikstar5209]

I never miss your car mechanical reviews, please make more of these

[@speedkar99]

I sure will. Trying to concentrate on mainstream vehicles for now because I'm sure that's what the majority of people have.

[@sikstar5209]

@@speedkar99 wow sir, u have time for these comment replies ..hats off 👍

[@fengdeng1982]

One of the best car reviewer on KZbin. I learned lot from your review, thanks.

[@speedkar99]

Wow, thanks!

[@poguemahone5476]

Chains last well if the oil gets changed every 3-5k miles (183k on mine but the car's not valuable enough to spend on now). If you follow manufacturers recommended 10k+ long service intervals then good luck 🤞

[@k24wkevin]

100%

[@speedkar99]

Sometimes its more than just oil. Plastic sliders and bad tensioners are also causes of chain related failures

[@joebrown9621]

chains use to last.. Nissan started using chains in the 90's spinning over 8K RPM in a SR20ve without a issue now a days the tensioners a junk and every manufacture is using that silent chain which seems to wear more and susceptible to any contamination got to change oil on time religiously.. plainly they've cheaped out why chains are having problems now a days

[@codycornell5036]

Love these videos! Thank you for making them and keep them coming!

[@speedkar99]

Thank you! Will do!

[@10947792]

Great review for a home mechanic such as myself. Recently purchased my first ever Hyundai. your review gives me an excellent background of what I need to watch for on our Palisade as the ownership years go on. Great it’s on the electric e-brake and monitoring engine oil levels. Many thanks!!!!

[@Unit_450]

that electronic e-brake will be real fun when you go to change the rear brake pads and do it, then the car wont move bc ur caliper is locked up bc you didnt have a scan tool to electronically retract the caliper. fun stuff

[@speedkar99]

I have palisade video if you're interested.

[@Unit_450]

ill check it out, love ur videos. Have u done a 2011 ford focus engine or any of the duratec series engines?@@speedkar99

[@Zacariasr_]

Love these. Really good and useful stuff

[@speedkar99]

Sure I'll try to make more

[@jonnyduncan7056]

Looks cold over there.. Excellently explained as always

[@speedkar99]

Yep we had a deep freeze last week. Thankfully this week is better, just above freezing.

[@mr_mayday_8984]

Please do any volvo mechanical review if possible v60 t6 recharge. Great content keep up the awesome job!!!

[@riceburner4747]

You are amazing. Such great observations. (plus u throw in humor).👍

[@speedkar99]

Glad you like my video style

[@fogogin]

Happy to see they switched to dual injection, made the catalytic converter a bit harder to steal and that air filter set up! Everyone should adopt that!

[@speedkar99]

Yeah I like the air filter!

[@jocko_]

Nice review, thanks.

[@speedkar99]

You are welcome

[@liver.flush.maestro]

Nice, I like those reviews, very useful if we are considering purchasing one of those vehicles. :-)

[@speedkar99]

Glad it was helpful!

[@liver.flush.maestro]

@@speedkar99 You should do more of those, I think it would be helpful for people. For example, to know that there is port injection added is very good for avoiding future carbon buildup issues. Still shows manufacturers listen ... sometimes 🙂

[@brokeboy87]

I would give this vehicle a 3.5 out of 5 stars for reliability. I would consider leasing this.

[@speedkar99]

Agreed. It's a lease with a strong warranty

[@johnw3379]

Another great review! Did you neighbor ever get their house done?

[@speedkar99]

No. They stopped in summer. I don't know if it's economy related. They even left the windows open and the frame to rot.

[@colchronic]

I have had the same conclusion with timing belts yeah it's kind of a pain in the ass and you have to do it every 100,000 miles but it's better than removing the engine from the bay every 200,000 mi to replace a timing component or chain

[@speedkar99]

I don't think chains will even last 200k now

[@colchronic]

@@speedkar99 It depends on the chain if you're talking about a Toyota 2GR It will last until the end of time if you're talking about a Volkswagen it'll last about 60,000 mi But yeah no longer can you make a blanket statement like chains are better than belts in most cases belts are actually better but generally speaking Toyota and Honda chains are fine

[@farisrc8647]

Dude, you awesome man

[@speedkar99]

I appreciate that!

[@DavidDLee]

I have this engine in a Kia Stinger. No oil consumption at all so far. I think the piston slap and oil consumption is for the 2.0T, which is a different engine. Can't speak for the transmission, mine a traditional AT. Pulls very strong but also is relatively efficient, especially on the highway. I did not know it was also port injected, made my evening.

[@speedkar99]

I read on forums from users when this engine debut it had those issues. Time will tell, this engine is still young

[@rezakaaccount]

Could you please also review the Mitsubishi Outlander Phev 2023? It has an interesting drivetrain that would make it interesting for an under the hood video.

[@speedkar99]

That would be great but PHEV are a bit more difficult to find.

[@noahdunaway]

We just bought a 2023 Sorento EX 2.5L turbo with the DC transmission, I guess I will cross my fingers. 😳

[@speedkar99]

RIP

[@ane4412]

Thank you very much for the video, well explained ! I have a kia sportage 1.6 crdi 2022, I'm really tired of the dct7 transmission it's a pain to driver...I'm starting to think about selling it and getting something else, what do you recommend for a family car ? By the way it has now 53000km do i need to change the dct fluid ? Cheers from France.

[@speedkar99]

Mazda CX5

[@ane4412]

@@speedkar99 Thank you sir

[@user-nn6sq8ow5g]

Any chance you can do a mechanical review of the Lexus RX 4th or 5th generation please?

[@Aleks_Mechanics]

Notification Squad!🔥🔥🔥

[@speedkar99]

Thanks!!

[@Ka9radio_Mobile9]

When you keep naming your engines Theta, you know that Quality is built in!

[@speedkar99]

I know right, they should have changed the name.

[@queenhoe9006]

15:02 Hyundai and Kia actually don’t use foot sensors to open the tailgate. The proximity sensors detect the key and you simply stand at the back and it will beep a few times before it opens. If you don’t walk away after a few seconds it opens. That connector may be for an option not available in the US or a tow hitch

[@speedkar99]

The tow hitch idea makes more sense.

[@chuckycheese84]

"Extra gift for your wife at the mall & don't want her to see it". That's a good one! Hilarious

[@speedkar99]

I know...I got caught the last time I was trying to buy her a gift

[@chuckycheese84]

@@speedkar99 LOL

[@augustinep6193]

Good. Thanks.

[@speedkar99]

Thank you too!

[@olspanner]

As you pointed out, at least it has some good hiding places!!

[@speedkar99]

Yeah it's good for families that have stuff 😉

[@regsmith7604]

In the high horsepower world, timing belts are best. But, for a car like that, a quality timing chain would work

[@mprebbz]

“Quality” and “kia” don’t go in the same sentence

[@speedkar99]

Exactly what I was gonna say

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

Two hose clamps holding two coolant hoses together to form one hose? What could possibly go wrong?

[@speedkar99]

I am so confused about that one.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

@@speedkar99 WeLl ArE yOu An EnGiNeEr?!?! 😉

[@teamawesome2171]

Nice...

[@speedkar99]

Thanks

[@vickslab4608]

There's lots of recalls on these Kia's with the latest being transmission issues on 2021 and 2022.

[@speedkar99]

Yeah the DCT is becoming a sore spot

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

Observations: - I see 2 pipes on the port fuel rail. Is this a return type system? - They changed the design of the cover for the windshield washer fluid. The old type was a major clue when identifying Kia/Hyundais at a glance. - Is it just me, but turbo engines don't seem to rev as snappily as naturally aspirated while at standstill.

[@speedkar99]

The port rail has an input from fuel tank and an output to the high pressure fuel pump

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

@@speedkar99 🙏

[@noahdunaway]

The new dual scroll turbochargers spool up much quicker than some of the older models. Our 2.5L turbocharged Sorento is very responsive from an idle and makes more torque than most V6 engines.

[@stger2384]

Any recommendations for a simple, robust mid-sized car?

[@speedkar99]

Prius Hybrid

[@bonjournaste]

Always surprised at how low budget the exhaust systems look on Hyundai/Kia. All the effort seems to be up top on things you'll see on a test drive.

[@speedkar99]

Agreed....this exhaust looks like it was welded by me 🙈

[@glock18supercharger]

New Video 🙏 😍

[@speedkar99]

Awesome

[@theguy1994]

16:08 is that rust on the trailing arm already?

[@speedkar99]

That's normal here in Canada

[@YanDoroshenko]

The cheapest new Sorento is 47490 Euros where I live. That includes a 1.6 TDI powerhouse with a 6-speed AT. For that sort of money you can get a 3-year old Audi or BMW. I am just amazed at what people are capable of buying these days.

[@speedkar99]

Yep, SUVs have gone through the roof with their demand. I wouldn't buy the used Audi though

[@YanDoroshenko]

@@speedkar99 Why not?

[@tonywhite425]

how often do you change your oil in your vehicle

[@speedkar99]

5000-8000 kilometers or one year since I don't drive much.

[@666cemetaryslut]

The quality of this car reminds me of a Walmart Huffy bike.

[@speedkar99]

Yes!! I remember those

[@know916bound]

Best comment.

[@RobertBeck-pp2ru]

This car underwhelms me. If you know of any AMC Gremlins for sale, please let me know. Thanks for the unbiased tour.

[@speedkar99]

😂😂AMC

[@luiscamacho851]

……..hell yeah

[@speedkar99]

Yeah

[@kclefthanded427]

I see where the cost cutting goes

[@speedkar99]

Sadly. It's where the average driver won't see it

[@SmokeDogNY420]

what I learned from this review is that its a good children's mall crawler that dumps oily air into the turbo, gumming it up....they better include a toothbrush for cleaning

[@speedkar99]

Yes, hence I left my toothbrush in there at the end of the video

[@RayanMADAO]

I dont understand why they put dual clutch transmissions in these cars...

[@sarcasticundertones3513]

Are they cheaper to make? The Ford Fiesta and Focus had dual clutch transmissions for a bit.

[@speedkar99]

I don't either...their main benefits are quicker shifting and better economy but I'd expect them to have gone with CVT like the Honda CRV

[@jamsbong]

The engine and transmission is actually so complex that I think German cars are simpler.

[@litlemac09]

6:10 You don't need to use the Kia Diagnostics System (KDS) to bleed the air out of the system, the air bubbles will bleed out manually from the coolant reservoir when you put the heat on, just make sure to monitor and fill for 10 minutes. Also at 7:39 , the fill hole is your tranmission control oil, which is a different oil from the 75W oil you fill the dual clutch up with on the side of the transmission. Also, you can drain the hydraulic oil from the front of the transmission, and if its warm, you should probably expect around 2.3 quarts, if its cold, it should be 2.5 - 2.6.

[@speedkar99]

Good to know. The KDS helps the bleed process to speed up by opening the valves. Otherwise you gotta to wait until things warm up.

[@speedkar99]

And yes I did read about this transmission having two different fluid types

[@noahdunaway]

I heard the Kia DCT was a dry clutch setup ?

[@litlemac09]

@@noahdunaway Some of them yes. The older hybrid models had a dry dual clutch, the newer models have the 8 speed wet dual clutch system.

[@kevinm5177]

Is the dual clutch worse than a CVT?

[@applepoop10]

Meh, they about the same in reliability. Not great.

[@speedkar99]

Reliability is so so... Performance is definitely better than a CVT

[@noahdunaway]

@@speedkar99 I build my race car automatic transmissions, T400 and ,powerglide, and my racing buddy has a transmission shop and has gotten into rebuilding CVT’s. He has been through a lot of training on the CVT’s and his advice is to stay away, far away, from the CVT.

[@greggc8088]

The very best mechanical feature of that Kia engine is the 10yr/100K warranty.

[@speedkar99]

Yeah they'll sell you on that but how likely is it you can benefit

[@noahdunaway]

@@speedkar99 we bought a used 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe and the engine started knocking at 80k miles. The local Hyundai dealer replaced the engine and gave us a rental car for almost a month and didn’t cost us a dime. The Santa Fe is still running strong at 170k miles. They also repainted the hood for free when I showed them the way rock pecks would cause big pieces of paint to pop off. It looked like to me that something was wrong with the primer not adhering to metal.

[@lijianzhao4444]

@@speedkar99 As if Toyota is really any better. I wouldn't recommend Toyota as a result.

[@rudolphbondefangerer5513]

Just imagine the cars that COULD be buildt today if they really wanted to? Skip the bells and whistles and use the best materials where needed, not in the seat adjustments. A modern day 2CV or VW Beetle, built to last and take a beating, you would need to buy one car and it would outlive you.

[@speedkar99]

Automakers wouldn't make something that will last 30+ years.

[@JAMESWUERTELE]

What a world we live in. Gas cars are becoming as light and full of plastic as possible, and electric (junk) cars are trying to be the heaviest things on the road.

[@speedkar99]

Yes! It's amazing the differences between the two

[@kclefthanded427]

Checking the oil is mandatory in this one if you want a warranty claim

[@speedkar99]

Yes, hence the level sensor.

[@jayr9810]

Pretty sad, I watched guy pour 3 quarts of oil in his previous gen sorrento while waiting for the warranty tow truck to show up. He said this was the second engine he would get replaced under warranty and it was clattering with some serious rod knock. Did the Theta 2 vehicles not have any low oil indicators?

[@aden3113]

I wonder what KIA's business strategy is here? They provide the longest car warranties of all the car makers at a whopping 7 years and yet they consistently produce some pretty shit cars.

[@speedkar99]

I thought it was a 10 year warranty

[@aden3113]

@@speedkar99 that's even more crazy.

[@noahdunaway]

@@aden3113 I think the engine block machining screw up had a lot to do with Hyundai and Kia giving the 10 year 100k mile warranty. We bought a 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe with fairly low mileage and at 80k the engine started knocking because of the said screw up and the local dealership replaced the engine with no questions asked. They also gave us a rental car for almost a month because of the extended wait for new engines to be shipped to them.

[@liver.flush.maestro]

The turbo is quite accessible here.

[@speedkar99]

Hmm why would it need to be accessible...Hmm right...to change it when it blows

[@liver.flush.maestro]

@@speedkar99 Yes, of course 🙂

[@justapeasant8949]

Over 90% cars today are sporting dual-clutch transmission that are totally unnecessary. With everything else you pointed out, I would skip this car. Thanks speedkar99!

[@speedkar99]

You are welcome

[@jesseb3758]

Kona n?

[@speedkar99]

Hmm I have a Kona review already

[@sayedengine]

They need to switch from DCT transmssion to 8-speed torque converter transmission. No one will care about 1-2 mpg more or 0.1-0.6 seconds faster from 0-60. Customer care about reliability

[@speedkar99]

I agree!

[@kclefthanded427]

It's going to be hard to steal a catalytic converter on this one

[@speedkar99]

Yeah. It come with the turbo

[@liver.flush.maestro]

The tooth brush fell down and it now sitting on the bottom aero tray most likely🤣

[@speedkar99]

Yep. I left it there. Good luck to whoever services this vehicle and finds it next.

[@liver.flush.maestro]

@@speedkar99 You left your unique "signature" 🙂

[@vongsakra253919]

Kia brand is affordable to all class of people. They choose Kia because of its affordability.

[@speedkar99]

They would not afford the repair bill with the transmission blows

[@Henry_Jones]

K I A Killed In Action

[@speedkar99]

😂

[@lijianzhao4444]

@@speedkar99 Much like Toyota is a loser.

[@victorwilks88]

Colgate sponser this man please

[@speedkar99]

Please

[@Erik_Swiger]

"And here we see the toothbrush of the Kia Sorento..."

[@speedkar99]

Teach-brush

[@applepoop10]

Those 8 speed DCT transmissions are junk. I’ve heard that they had a lot of shifting issues in the Santa Cruz. I test drove the Santa Cruz at a dealership once, they told me that those problems are considered normal. 😅

[@speedkar99]

Yes I've heard the 8DCT are having problems. DCT are for fast shifting sport cars. Not a family mall crawler

[@aissaaneslyes3566]

Rear Suspension parts are paint black with there rust!😮

[@speedkar99]

Rust is normal in Canada. It sucks that even brand new cars aren't immune

[@MatrixDiscovery]

Lack of quality is easy to see.

[@speedkar99]

For those who know what to look for under the hood yes

[@kristianhermann5971]

"Welcome to the world of plastic" 😬 I'm hanging onto my 07' so I can delay buying a plasticmobile as long as I can

[@speedkar99]

07 Sorento? How's it going?

[@kristianhermann5971]

@@speedkar99 An 07 Rio - dependable and affordable car - it's at 250K

[@James-vt2cb]

Despite the disastrous reputation and offensive resell, people seem drawn to these like moths to the flame. Maybe the new EVs will be simpler and help their longevity, but Teslas seem to endlessly hassle their owners too. For my money, I'd never consider it.

[@speedkar99]

EVs will have their own problems, likely not mechanical.

[@darkivaz-aaa1145]

Toyota fanboys in 3....2..... and 1

[@jtomtl]

Does it still catch on fire randomly? Korean Tech😂😂😂 KIA, Kill in Accidents

[@speedkar99]

This isn't the EV or hybrid

[@sarcasticundertones3513]

Word of the video: leak

[@speedkar99]

Haha

[@tonywhite425]

member oil is cheap engines are not

[@speedkar99]

Motor oil?

[@tonywhite425]

you have to change the oil in turbo's more often then mpi get it lol@@speedkar99

[@jabjab12]

More parts more failures points more money to the dealership with parts replacement

[@speedkar99]

That's how business works

[@darkivaz-aaa1145]

Oh boy. Let's see what type of negative comment from this guy and the rest of Toyota fanboys going to say about this kia.

[@FunkatronicDingus]

Found the paint huffer

[@darkivaz-aaa1145]

@@FunkatronicDingus how's the fuel pump issues in your toyota kid? Still at the shop while trolling here?

[@speedkar99]

Wasn't Honda the one with the big fuel pump recall?

[@ronniesaini4604]

change spark plug easy like any 4 cylinder engine *laughs in bmw spark plug under valve cover*

[@speedkar99]

Under the valve cover??

[@salami99]

turns out I was wrong. I made a mistake taking off my valve cover and gasket to do plugs. the plugs had a separate upper cover. @@speedkar99

[@MRMV483]

I’d rather own a B48 with a zf 8 speed

[@speedkar99]

😎😎

[@mohnnadmercedes8246]

Powertrain is recipe for disaster

[@speedkar99]

Yeah...not suited for a family

[@MsHaiducu]

The only thing i like about this is that you can just bolt on balljoints and bearings.I wish older cars also did this and not have to use a press. Everything else is absolutely abismal. So much plastic stuff,Jesus. Built to last is not the main objective

[@speedkar99]

Yeah the rad support is just straight out plastic 🙈

[@lbgxvalor]

belts r trash impossible to be stronger and better then a chain... that is a chain that's made right and not cheaply made junk

[@speedkar99]

It's not about the chain itself....it's the cheap plastic guides and oil controlled tensioners implemented that keep failing

[@rosegold-beats]

Now i know to never buy a kia

[@speedkar99]

How about an electric kia?

[@jabjab12]

More plastic parts they don’t want to learn

[@speedkar99]

It's the fuel economy restrictions being too strict forcing automaker's to cut corners like this

[@ua7pyro591]

The new engines are junk. Gdi

[@anubaral]

plastic car

[@user-ux7jk4dk8n]

Omg. Dual clutch transmission 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@speedkar99]

Yea. On a family SUV

[@infernoking7504]

Typical kia can't design good shit that water management whatever pos plus positon skirts plus awful turbo placement and all the plastic bs. Pedestrian safety lol my 1988 Lincoln town car has a nice angle to hit someone where they will land on the hood no plastic bs required.

[@speedkar99]

Lincoln Town car vs Pedestrian 😂😂 You can put a bed on the hood for them to land on softly

[@Fishsticks187]

Hyundai/Kia might look and seem nice, but they are throw away cars. For what they're charging these days, you're much better off getting a Toyota.

[@speedkar99]

They sure give people what they want upfront. It's a good tactic that catches alot of people

[@mprebbz]

So…much… plastic! One of the many reasons I will never buy or own one of these garbage cars or anything Kia 🤮

[@speedkar99]

Alot of modern cars have resorted to plastics now. It's because of the lighter weight, cheaper to manufacture, but also pedestrian and collision safety. Too bad for durability though.

[@mprebbz]

@@speedkar99 yes, but the oil cooler brackets and all the other stuff that is well out of the way of pedestrians is just kia/Hyundai being cheap and shitty right?

[@Unit_450]

ABSOLUTE TRASH, never buy one. They have left thousands upon thousands of ppl stranded

[@speedkar99]

Sadly

[@Unit_450]

i cant even believe how many timing chain tensioners I have seen fail, not to mention carbon buildup, trans failure, cam phaser failure, etc... They are like alfa romeo except a little worse, nice for 5k miles then complete headache@@speedkar99

[@KevinMiller-lh9ur]

No thanks to any turbo engine. Turbos will fail.

[@speedkar99]

But not everyone ncares about reliability

[@charlier8573]

Scotty just entered the chat room:...hyundai/kia are piles of junk!😅

[@speedkar99]

🙄 is Scotty still around?

[@johnxiong9034]

This is the cheapest material car ever seen. I own toyota 2019 newer. Those car doesn't come that cheaply made.

[@speedkar99]

And you pay for it

[@johnxiong9034]

@speedkar99 yeah pay off alright two years ago.