The Toxic World of Tess Holliday and Fat Activism | Politics, Lies... and Health?

Tess Holliday has inspired millions of women with her 'Body Positive' message. Unfortunately, that isn't the only message she's spreading.
In this video we'll discuss how Tess Holliday became the gateway to Health At Every Size - and how this toxic culture of lies, politics and cherry-picked data is affecting the health and happiness of those who join.
I started off thinking that Health at Every Size (HAES) was a Health Movement - and left thinking it was entirely political. Mostly due to Lindo Bacon, the author of the Health at Every Size book, who is incredibly problematic.
In this #documentary style video you will see that #HAES is essentially just Fat Acceptance in disguise. We will look at the history of the HAES movement and how it has grown over time through the influence of #tessholliday.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
4:00 Tess Holliday
6:29 The Cosmo Cover
9:04 BOPO Definition of Health
14:24 Reality of Obesity
17:39 Influence of Tess
21:44 HAES
25:52 History of Health At Every Size
26:48 The "Fat Underground"
29:49 Toxic Culture
36:04 Lindo & "Science" of HAES
38:30 Obesity Paradox
41:50 "Clearly causes disease?"
46:00 Metabolically Healthy Obese
48:56 Lindo Bacon... Not the Greatest
51:08 Doublespeak
52:59 Conclusion
Here's a link to the Doublespeak video I mentioned by What I've Learned:
• DoubleSpeak, How to Li...
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www.chicagotribune.com/lifest...
www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/we...
qz.com/550527/obesity-paradox...
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[@leahhart3585]

Not all smoker have lung cancer but that doesn’t mean that cigarettes don’t cause cancer.

[@robk5488]

the sad part is you're drawing a false equivalence. Although what you're saying is true you'll still see plenty of old folks (into their 90s) smoking like chimneys. You don't see very many Tess Holiday's make it to that age...

[@leahhart3585]

Based Rob it’s not common but my grandfather was 400 my whole life and bed bond the last 10 years of his life. He was 82 when he died. I think some people are just stronger. He also drank like a fish and smoked until the end.

[@truepeacenik]

True. Some have cardiac and arterial disease.

[@leahhart3585]

truepeacenik yes of course you just don’t ever hear smokers saying that smoking is healthy just because they don’t have cancer yet.

[@Me-mb1ex]

Everyone wants to believe they’ve hit the genetic jackpot and will be the exception. Truthfully, it’s not even about making it to old age, these people never seem to consider what kind of quality of life they’ll have if they actually do make it 70-80 at that size. Life for a 300+lb 80 year old ain’t pretty.

[@katherinewinters5674]

If Tess Holliday did not look like a heavyset Lana Del Rey, no one in their right mind would be glorifying her.

[@ayanaghilass4322]

Finally someone with some common sense !! 😅 It's all about companies targeting the newly growing and un-exploited obese demographic with marketing campaigns to sell shit. Has nothing to do with body positivity or SELF-ACCEPTANCE actually these companies feed on the self-consciousness of women !!! Thats how they sell us shit we don't need for prices we can't afford 😒

[@ByeByeBelly]

Yeah they choose people without a lot of facial fat who have a smaller proportioned face to be their idols

[@mgray999]

Her face is pretty, but her body is going to fall apart.

[@utopiaconsumed2195]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀I’m dead omg

[@jodymarie9757]

You worded it perfectly.

[@jackdawjohnson7436]

I am disabled. When the body positivity movement started, I started seeing more and more photo shoots of people who were amputees or had dwarfism or were in wheelchairs and it was massively inspiring for me, even if my specific condition never came up. Seeing this section of the movement die out in favor of curvy, classically beautiful women has been a huge disappointment. It reads to me that my body is less valuable, less important, that I will always be confined to the role of the “after school special.” It’s a pain difficult to explain or express.

[@manifestationsofasort]

Even though you find it hard to explain, as another disabled person, I COMPLETELY understand what you mean and feel the same way. It really sucks :/

[@mikwolf2236]

I'm with you, worse is when we're actively pushed out of the movement and told it was never for us and we're not really marginalized because we're not fat enough, and then they turn around and talk about how they deserve respect because they're actually very healthy at their weight

[@pinkdarkboy7127]

Sadly, when you have a "minorities banding together" thing, a lot of time the majority within that minority will band together and try to push out the other minorities. I'm a trans man and the amount of gay people I've seen who say they want to get rid of the T in LGBT so that they can be more accepted by the mainstream and so they can stop pretending to care about trans rights is way too high. Not to mention TERF lesbians. Humans are just evil. :(

[@EstherHulst-Artist]

And for people with burn scars thats what I personally remember well.

[@AllysonCrites]

I have psoriasis and this movement help me come to terms with I will always have patches and I don’t need to hide it, which help me improve my mental health

[@justintindel]

I’m a paramedic and I just did a podcast about how morbid obesity has hijacked the body positivity movement and my guest mentioned this video and this is such a fantastic resource and breakdown of the entire issue. Thanks for making this!

[@justintindel]

Also shout out for using the footage you got of EMTs using what we call “the shamu tarp” to move obese patients around. I mentioned it in my conversation and the fact that our bariatric ambulance had to have a winch installed to load these patients. So many healthcare and emergency resources needlessly get used managing morbidly obese patients who just refuse to take care of themselves and double down on the cognitive dissonance you so perfectly illustrate the HAES community exhibits.

[@Chuckakhan]

Out of curiously have you had to use bariatric gurneys for any call outs yet?

[@justintindel]

@@ChuckakhanOh yeah at one agency I worked for we had a bariatric ambulance with ramps and a winch to pull the stretcher in.

[@Chuckakhan]

@@justintindel yeah I used to work in hospitals I always got annoyed when they nicked the bariatric wheelchairs which happens surprisingly frequently

[@cursedreverie]

My husband died 2 yrs ago. No, not covid. Obesity. He weighed over 512 lbs. When they tried to shock his heart, they couldn't. Because the paddles weren't strong enough. But sure, obesity is healthy. He had just turned 44.

[@goatbabe0666]

My partner means so much to me, I can't imagine losing him at 44. I work at an ER, and unfortunately have seen this happen. I am so so sorry for your loss. ❤

[@todo9633]

I'm sorry for your loss, but by the fact that you're here watching this video I assume you're taking steps to get in shape, which is fantastic!

[@schoo9256]

​@@todo9633read the room bruh

[@racpatrice]

I'm so sorry for your loss. This is why I hate HAES because it misleads easily influenced young people who don't know better which could kill them. 😡

[@virginiaviola5097]

Oh Lord, I am so sorry. Hope you’re managing ok. That’s horribly young to be made a widow. 💔

[@hollya6408]

She says “eff your beauty standards” whilst conforming to every beauty standard apart from being slim 🙃

[@JLM498]

EXACTLY!! She wears fancy clothes, does her makeup, gets skincare treatments , etc.

[@rubiirae]

Pretty sure she wouldn't be driving the fat acceptance train if she didn't get sweet modeling gigs from companies that want to exploit her size as a PR/marketing stunt.

[@caitplanchette]

@@rubiirae yeah she was LITERALLY the covergirl for that heavy show

[@kaikito2348]

Thank god for sane people!!!!

[@roguerat812]

I don't think bacon said that obesity is healthy just that its not so clear cut as people seem to think it is. Ive had friends die that did everything right. and be a perfect weight and still have a heart attack and die while the over weight smoker survived his heart attacks and cleaned up his act . I think there is a whole aspect to health that people don't even acount for sher will. I think bacon was trying to indicate the range of health is slightly bigger than previously thought. Its definitely true that being over 300 pounds will catch up eventually but so will being under weight and some how being under weight is considered good and praised in some ways aspesually in the fashion industry. I think equality and acceptance needs to be met while also addressing health mental and physical in a more wholeistic way. People should never be ostracized for trying to look after themselves better and no one should be shamed. Shame just feuls the fire from my experience.

[@pjlove2387]

I was the original fat and happy girl in my 20s and early 30s. I would announce it to everyone when getting a large slice a birthday cake. I got away with it until I turned 35. Then I was told I had type two diabetes. I still couldn’t break my sugar addiction and wound up getting injections in my eyes to try and save my vision. Then I had kidney failure and was on dialysis a year. then this year I had a kidney transplant. it took all of that for me to break my food addition and to get my diabetes under control, ćand to start finally regaining some of my health. I am only 54 years old and I have lost a significant quality of my life over the last 20 years.

[@Marshmobilise]

Hope you’re doing okay and getting better ❤

[@cherfromtn8225]

Thanks for sharing your experience. Diabetes is also a "silent killer." It just does it slowly. With blood sugar, the medical community does not see it as a problem until it hits a higher threshold. In reality, you can often see the steady progression for years before it actually gets diagnosed. This needs to be changed. As the Aussies would say, "good on you" for getting this under control. You still have a lot of life left and can share your personal experience to help others. I also think there is a huge need to work with parents to help them teach their children about a healthy diet and exercise. I see so many young overweight kids being set up for a weight struggle all of their lives.

[@carolineweaver343]

You’re doing it now! Hope you’re feeling better!

[@curlyhairblacklilacs]

Sending love 💕

[@we8608]

You had me at eye injections 💔. I hope you're doing much better and are healing.

[@alfromtx245]

My dad was overweight for decades while living an active lifestyle. He lifted weights, played racquetball, jogged, and did a number of things to stay active. But he had a food addiction. His parents were abusive alcoholics before they became Christians, and he lived with a lot of pain from this part of his childhood. He swore that he would never drink, but used food like a drug to numb his pain. We talked with him many times. We tried, but he wouldn't listen. He dodged the bullet for years, but it caught up with him. Type 2 diabetes first. Then fatty liver syndrome, cirrhosis, kidney failure, etc. We lost him 6 years ago. I'm convinced that he'd still be with us if he had taken better care of himself. This "body positivity" message isn't helping.

[@crazyleaf257]

😭😭😭😭😭 yes! People don't want to admit that it's a mental health issue. My husband was in the same boat! He was severely abused as a child and has a speech impediments and while every part of his life is improving, for the three years that I've known him I noticed he struggles with food. But I am very impressed with the progress he has made. He started running a few months ago because he really wanted to be a policeman and he's heading that direction soon. He is down one shirt size and two pants sizes!! He's very proud to say that he is the most fit out of all of his co-workers out here in West Texas and he's right

[@crazyleaf257]

It's laughable too, that while they will photograph obese models, they photoshop them to erase rolls etc

[@alfromtx245]

@@crazyleaf257 Good to hear that he's headed in the right direction!

[@robw7676]

I honestly think that refined sugars are most of the problem. When I conciously stopped eating more than 200 calories a day from carbohydrates and got the other 2000+ calories from fat and protein, it completely changed my understanding of hunger. Most of what we think us hunger is a drug-like sugar craving. My Mum was obese for most of her adult life and died at 65 of a heart attack.

[@JCDenton3]

Addictions are hereditary, took me a long time to figure out. I have the same story as your dad, never touched a drink but binged junk food to soothe my pain and escape briefly, only to feel worse after. It's super hard, your dad had a real battle that is extremely difficult to win, but know that he was a warrior for trying. I hope you all are doing ok

[@palcada]

body positivity is: "it's okay if you don't look like the standard of beauty, that doesn't determine your worth." NOT "You can be healthy and be obese, gaining weight is not going to affect your health."

[@hikeoverheels5429]

Exactly! Being unhealthy doesn't ruin a persons value as a human being, but it's a lie to say they aren't unhealthy

[@kidaria1333]

This is so beautiful explained on point with only a few words!

[@doceansdeepwoo2532]

@@hikeoverheels5429 it is a lie to say they are unhealthy unless they are actually afflicted by a real disease or condition.

[@hikeoverheels5429]

@@doceansdeepwoo2532 obesity is a condition, it damages your body just by existing on the body

[@nicoolio930]

The issue is that there are so many ways we can be unhealthy that may be encouraged by the things we do. Unfortunately most of those things can't be seen, so those who are plus-sized are constantly shamed. You can want the best for someone's health, but this macro scale bullying is not okay. There needs to be representation of people with different bodies in Media. Whether those bodies are perfectly healthy or not is irrelevant because those people exist. Some people cope with really significant mental health issues or trauma with eating, and some people have biological things that make it hard to lose weight. and I'm just going to say that by continuing to Fat shame people, you are not going to make it any easier for people with plus-size bodies to do anyting about their health.

[@Zane_Doe]

"Weight doesn't affect health." My knees and lower back respectfully disagree.

[@lilikiwi]

Mine to ..lol

[@Surubispirit]

Along with lungs and heart. Kills me when I hear a friend of mine struggle to breath just from walking up 6 stairs, not to mention how much that must kick his heart into overdrive.

[@mikastamoody2275]

It affects my heart murmur and my breathing. And my knees and hips.

[@miraboliver4894]

Same, also my pancreas.

[@yogi8387]

And when I sit I can't breath well cuz my belly so big

[@ladysarah1985]

The first person I ever knew who was over 300 lbs and claimed to be healthy really seemed to be onto something. She was in her late 30’s and the mom of two teenagers, and active enough to take walks on our lunch breaks at work. This was years ago, before this became mainstream. Fast forward and now she’s in her 50’s. I saw her for the first time in years. She can’t walk more than a few steps without needing to sit down. Her joints are horribly inflamed. She seems really miserable. Relatively young people are experimenting on themselves, but it isn’t going to last forever. It just can’t. It’s very important to not hate yourself or choose a lesser life, absolutely! But that is a different topic than believing there are no consequences for what we put in our bodies. I’m still waiting for a morbidly obese person to come forward who says they cannot lose weight while 100% eating actually healthy foods and leading an active life.

[@amethyst1062]

Search people with severe metabolic disorders

[@ladysarah1985]

@@amethyst1062 I did just now. It says, “Through lifestyle changes and medications, metabolic syndrome may be able to be reversed” and “Heart-healthy lifestyle changes are the first line of treatment for metabolic syndrome. You may have to see a dietitian and a physical therapist to help find a diet and exercise plan that works for you. If healthy lifestyle changes do not work, you may need medicines or weight loss surgery.”

[@PareliusC]

I'm in my 30s and gained alot of weight due to stress from grad school and getting a job in a bakery and the way I feel has gotten far worse that what it was before.

[@JasmineDragonGreenTea]

I wish I had seen videos like this back when this movement took off. "Healthy at every size" is one of the WORST things that ever happened to me, health wise. I'm now almost 300 pounds with sleep apnea and pre diabetes, working as hard as I can to qualify for bariatric surgery, because back when I started gaining weight I saw these girls and the videos and articles pushing this garbage and thought "wow, absolutely incredible. I can still be beautiful and healthy, weight is just a number. I don't need to change." Obviously I am to blame for my own actions and choices, and I fully own up to that, but I truly don't think I'd have made the ones I did if this lifestyle wasn't so glorified and pushed so hard on young women.

[@stardeki]

I hope you can get your surgery! You got this ❤

[@Bunn.B]

Take it one day at a time and it's okay to go slow. You can do this. You got this! ❤

[@JasmineDragonGreenTea]

Thank you ❤️ I'm 3 pounds away from my goal weight to qualify for surgery!

[@boosqueezy2418]

they have ruined and even ended many lives. i’m sorry they lied to you. i’m glad you’re turning it around. wish more people would see through their bs sooner

[@auroragoreyalice]

shouldn’t loving your body mean wanting the best for it? eating well, exercising, getting enough sleep, etc. your body is more than just your physical appearance.

[@pamelahough3896]

I would say so

[@princessmarlena1359]

Right?

[@JuliaMitomi]

What she said.

[@thequeerkid9391]

Period.

[@magicscoolbus3834]

Yes👏👏👏 you only get 1!!!!😁

[@krowkovtuber]

this reminds me of when adele lost weight and was shamed for "submitting to beauty standards". smh, can't even get a healthier life without getting cancelled these days.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

People are crazy. But for as much people who shamed her 10x more showed her love

[@angelicaborghi1427]

I agree with you but let’s not forget how hated she was for her body before and how people are now acting like she got better when she managed to have an extremely successful and lasting career while being fat. She looked nowhere near the examples in the video, Adele surely is happier with herself and I’m happy for her.

[@AWlpsSHOW36]

Adele got so much hate and calls for cancellation around that time. First shamed for loosing weight and then she gets accused of Cultural Appropriation when she styled her hair into Bantu Knots.

[@mollkatless]

Prior to her weight loss, the only thing I knew about Adell was that she made really crappy music, and was as big as a house. But now, I know she has improved to being only chunky, and is apparently an entertainer (for some)

[@Jackie-kq1sg]

Same with Rebel Wilson now that she chose to be healthy

[@maddie8415]

These communities really make me think of the phrase "misery loves company". They want to be surrounded by other miserable people who also feel 100% helpless to make any changes or improve their own health, mobility, and overall well-being. So these people will naturally react with anger when anyone puts in the effort it takes to make changes. So toxic.

[@miquelmarti6537]

"I can't walk half a mile but I know I'm healthy"... that goes direct to the Darwin Awards of the Year. Just sit and watch her explode.

[@amethyst1062]

“I can’t walk half a mile but I know I’m healthy” Yeah, you’d have to be a healthy weight and paralyzed or some similar condition in order for me to believe that

[@bleh-wk8pn]

A lot of these activists admit to that and what's worse is they think it's a valid disability. They think deliberately disabling themselves puts them on the same scale as people who have mobility issues that CAN'T be fixed. It's really gross to watch how these people will more than happily rely on mobility aids as an enabler rather than an aid. I saw one activist admit they were more than happy to disable themselves to the point their family members/friends have to care for them and wash them because "that's what you do for people you love" 🤢

[@bleh-wk8pn]

I cannot stress enough how open obese activists are about this fact and how they don't care. They genuinely think that their obesity disabling them puts them on the same wave length as people who are literally paralyzed and that they're entitled to use mobility aids to enable their mass than to help them move around like every other physically disabled person uses them for. There's no 'wake up call', they just rely on whatever allows them to maintain their state like a pile of wet paper towels.

[@lauravandzura7134]

She’s young. When she gets older and all these health issues catch up to her... she’s going to regret it all.

[@kris0369]

Wait till she gets starts getting more flab under her arms and her thighs she may look good now but later on she's going to totally regret it. It's not all fabulous it's out to be. I'm like 5'3 220 lb age 51, I don't consider myself healthy weight I know I need to lose 70 lb I think.

[@diana6echo]

There's no many 45+ ppl in fatacceptance cos they can't move, die, or finally got their stomach bypass or other fat reduction program.

[@melancolielupine2023]

@@diana6echo Lizzo and Adele already lose weight. They begin to understand that they can't stay fat and live long. In few years, they will be numerous to lose weight... Good for them tho. But they need to stop advertising ''health at every size'' because a lot of young women trust them and get fat, thinking that it's ok, and it's problematic. You can't be a healthy obese 40/50/60 yo

[@strangerdaysss]

at my workplace a lot of clients I have met finally got the motivation to become "healthy" and lose weight only after a health scare

[@Meg-A-Saurus]

Like that saying...how docs mostly see elderly OR obese patients, but not obese AND elderly.

[@MoistNasa]

I have MS. And I got a brain lesion from it that was very large and took away the strength in my legs. I couldn’t walk for a year. And I was almost 300 pounds My doctor asked me “If you were 100 pounds lighter, do you think you would be in a wheelchair?” And that was the ah-hah moment I needed. Because he was right. My body wasn’t prepared for something like a disease or a brain lesion and the last thing my weak legs needed was extra weight to carry around. I’m now 170 pounds and I’m at the gym 5 days a week, and walking my dog at the park the other two days. Weight loss isn’t about looks, or clothes; it’s about being prepared for when life happens. I was only 24. I would rather be not “body positive” and able to fucking walk than be in a wheelchair and miserable.

[@djnolan00000]

good job! your 15lbs less than me, not that it matters. being under 200 hits different

[@spesiellegreier]

I have MS too. While I don't struggle with my weight I never really paid much attention to my health before. I had a rather poor diet and never worked out. The diagnosis have motivated me to do everything I can to stay healthy for as long as possible. Stay strong my fellow ms warrior

[@MoistNasa]

Jonaz Fhauk it’s a different life once you get something like MS. You never think it’ll happen to you until it does. Much support and happiness to you!! ❤️

[@saygoodbyetofate]

Great work. I have MS too. While there are no conducive studies saying being fat affects MS, i know overall it will help my health. Down 110lbs myself.

[@ByeByeBelly]

So glad you achieved that!

[@GreenWitchApothecary]

Thank you for being rational. Anorexia AND obesity are unhealthy and neither should be ignored. Or glorified as in being dismissed as no problem.

[@dawnm.h.reeves5717]

My highest weight was (gulp) 425lbs over 20ish years ago. Let's be real. I couldn't ride the amusement rides, could barely wipe me arse, and the worst was how I saw and felt about myself. I'm very appreciative of the remarks & comments from others. It truly made me look at myself and said enough!!! Now I'm in the 160ish range (25lbs is extra me and yes, I would love to have it removed and wear a sundress, but meh..money) and I'm extremely active and get this... I'm seriously thinking of hiking the PA section of the Appilation Trail. Shhh don't tell my fam! I'm almost 60 and I'm even more active and adventurous than I was as a teen!!! So come on, my fellow chunk-a-dunk-chicks. Get moving!! You are going to love the lighter side!

[@northwestclasspnw7974]

Congrats, good lord. It's gotta feel beyond empowering to have lost all that weight

[@dawnm.h.reeves5717]

Thank you! When I was young, I didn't have any comorbidities. I don't care what those who are big time overweight, every women wants to feel sexy, beautiful, and intelligent. When you're super heavy the one (of many) stigma for me was, I knew people thought I was unintelligent. But thank you for your kind and encouraging words!!!!♥️

[@harlowowo]

You go girl

[@aint2proud2meg]

Hell yes!

[@cadaverous6]

I believe in Respect At Every Size. You’re not healthy if you’re 500 pounds, but you’re still a person.

[@ponternal]

the difference between plus sized and mordibly obese is the genitals

[@jileel]

At certain point of obesity, not really.

[@TomikaKelly]

Same. You should never feel entitled to berate or disparage someone because YOU take issue with how they choose to show up in the world, but science is still science.

[@TomikaKelly]

@@ponternal The difference between "slut" and "player" is also the genitals...🙃

[@user-gc3zf5sc5t]

@@TomikaKelly right!!!

[@MsDefectiveToaster]

I'm not surprised. Remember that reddit thread where they accused Doctor Mike of being fatphobic because he suggested that morbid obesity is unhealthy and can lead to heart disease?

[@Avis-Finch]

I remember that. I hate how people get offended so easily, even if you try to explain to someone about the risks of obesity can lead to, you would be called fat phobic.

[@SynterraSteen]

@@Avis-Finch I’m fat phobic. I never want to be that obese. I’ll embrace it. I am friends with overweight people but I don’t encourage bad habits.

[@Avis-Finch]

@@SynterraSteen I won’t judge, don’t worry. People should discourage obesity, it is not a good life style at all. Instead, we should encourage healthy eating habits and stuff like that. The appearance of one being morbidly obese is quite shocking...who would embrace that honestly? It’s not really attractive, it’s unhealthy and concerning.

[@petyamiteva2382]

@@Avis-Finch the elephant in the room really is the reason why some people have unhealthy eating habits. They are so often linked to socio-economic status and access to good quality food together with education levels. It’s a big societal issue that needs to be addressed in order for it to be easier for people to make the choice to be healthier.

[@annacibiniak2268]

@@SynterraSteen I don’t think that you are fat phobic. Fat phobia is when you think less of someone and think they don’t deserve love or good things because of their weight. As many people in the comments have pointed out, you can love yourself and want to be healthier whatever that means for you (losing weight or putting on weight). I think fat acceptance has stemmed from people who are healthy but just don’t fit beauty standards being considered “fat”

[@narius_jaden215]

as someone who lived as a 370 pound human being for over half a decade, I just hit 168.8 recently. I never want to live as a big person again. I appreciate that being bigger shouldn't make your life miserable in terms of how others treat you, but at the same time... it's miserable on its own >.

[@aint2proud2meg]

Well said!

[@deannastatler7712]

Awesome job on your weight journey!!!

[@JewishKeto]

Great video. When I was 264lbs or 18.85 stone I was a supporter of this very dangerous movement. I used to make excuses all the time for my poor choices and I laughed made jokes, and would say “oh I’m king sized” just to hide how miserable I was. I couldn’t sleep right I often slept to 10am i had bad kidney pain, looked very sick, was always hot. Now I have lost around 100lbs and I feel amazing and am so much happier

[@tokelolove7234]

We didn't fight against the glamourisation of anorexia just so obesity can take over it's place.

[@marywebb9127]

In the 90's girls used to starve their selves to look like Kate Moss. It is a reverse of this with Tess Holliday. Both are unhealthy lifestyles.

[@shrijanagrg6853]

Anorexia is still rampant.

[@aparna2701]

@@shrijanagrg6853 So is obesity, your point?

[@eumemo4814]

Ikr. People doesn’t understand nuance.

[@shrijanagrg6853]

@@aparna2701 The original commentator wrote their sentence in a way that suggests that GLAMORIZATION of anorexia has ended. Whilst that's not true at all. Anorexia is still as rampant as it was in the 90s. It hasn't magically disappeared.

[@inframatic]

Imagine if people got offended when you told them that smoking cigarettes wasn’t healthy and they created a group called cigarette acceptance.

[@hotsausenjoyer2000]

Hah, good one. Of course it's not healthy, imagine if that happened one day.

[@amaarakhan180]

There are groups like that on the internet

[@hachikos]

i mean, that's a pretty farfetched comparison. some people are genetically predisposed to being overweight no matter how healthy they are. smoking is a choice, expensive, and it harms more than just yourself. even if someone were to choose to be overweight, at least they aren't putting anyone else at risk.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@hachikos except they are being morbidly obese puts you at far more risk health wise meaning time spent treating you is being wasted when it could be being used on people who despratly need medical help for issues outside of there controll. and people who are naturally overweight are a obvious exception of course no one is saying they should have the same standards applied to them as people who arnt genetically deposed to gaining weight no matter what they do

[@hachikos]

@@wilmagregg3131 idk i think my point still stands. nobody wants to be obese, some people just have very unfortunate circumstances regarding money or mental health. if it puts their life at risk, of course they need medical care. that's like saying a smoker dying of lung cancer is wasting resources. both are a result of unhealthy lifestyles, but that doesn't mean their lives have no value. just as smoking is an addiction, so is unhealthy eating, and breaking both habits (especially if it's all someone has ever known) is extremely difficult. i understand your perspective, but i think the medical world's resources are being wasted by things much more ignorant and dangerous than obesity at the moment.

[@beehungry6190]

The real hero’s are the first responders who have to lift these people and smell and see with their eyes the living conditions.

[@weedoozer]

Six years ago I weighed 320lbs. I was diabetic, had high bp, body pain, A-fib, and needed a cpap (due to sleep apnea). I stopped eating out and watched what I ate. I lost 175 lbs (kept 100% off for six years) and guess what…. No longer diabetic, lower bp, no more aches and pains, and have normal heart rhythms. Fatphobia is BS. It was made up so people can be lazy! Note… my family also joined in and as a family we have lost 600 lbs. Everyone’s health and confidence improved as a result.

[@LearningAmerica]

"I'm healthy because i haven't died yet"

[@joesmith942]

That's like the guy who jumps off the skyscaper and passes the 25th floor saying, "So far, so good".

[@your_dad_on_vacation]

What a fuckin mood

[@justintanner8377]

Makes sense to me

[@latteknowsbest6365]

@@joesmith942 lmaooo

[@philosophicalblueberry8986]

The thing I think is freaking weird is that Tess Holliday doesnt even recognize that she herself is the reason she is morbidly obese and that its not because shes just "born that way". Theres literally no way to be that obese without HER making THE PERSONAL CHOICE to overeat and exceed her daily recommended calorie intake over a very long period of time. Even if she have a condition that makes it easier for her to put on weight, even if she doesnt excersise, its still going to be pretty much impossible to get that obese if she stuck to consuming about 2000 calories a day which is the daily recommended intake of calories for women last i checked.

[@icommentoneverything7032]

Being told to leave a movement because you want to lose weight is not a movement, it’s a cult.

[@qwertyCandy]

The fact that these women's _whole identity_ seems to be about their weight really speaks volumes 😬

[@moonchild6376]

Those people aren't doing much movement anyways

[@EEX97623]

Yep, "belonging to a community" where you have to obey the high command, and indoctrinated rules, under threat of ostracisation, is control of cult 101.

[@Over60sowhat]

As Wayne Dyer said, "Nobody ever gave up an addiction from a position of self-loathing." - It's important to love yourself before you try to heal an unhealthy eating addiction. But, take it from me, a person who is only 30 pounds overweight, trying to do anything while carrying extra weight is more difficult, including being healthy.

[@josephwritessongs]

Yeah tbh the HAES thing was good for me cos it helped me get back to being active and stop feeling ashamed... But the sips of Obesity if Healthy Kool-Aid I took did NOT help! Luckily I sorted out the good ideas from the bullshit

[@crazyleaf257]

Tess says "it doesn't matter if you happen to be fat or you happen to be a certain color". No, being fat doesn't just happen to you

[@johannduplessis3467]

Tess is only 36. Lets hear if she has the same mindset in 10 years. Drug addicts and alcoholics also feel indestructible when they are young.

[@shiptowreck855]

along with anorexics and any other mind altering disease. from an anorexic, who spent a good portion of my life believing i didn't need food.

[@bdflatlander]

That was the case with my younger brother - he was basically a hard core alcoholic for over 35 years and when he was younger no one could convince him that he was, in effect, committing slow motion suicide. He died one month before his 57th birthday from Pancreatic Cancer and cirrhosis of the liver. I can’t see why anyone would defend being obese or heavier is in any way a heathy way to live. I’m not advocating shaming or making fun of people with a serious weight problem but it shouldn’t be glossed over like it’s OK, because it’s not.

[@johannduplessis3467]

@@shiptowreck855 Life is all about balance. Being overweight or anorexic is both unhealthy.

[@johannduplessis3467]

@@bdflatlander i am sorry to hear about your brother and i agree people should not be shamed. Shaming an alcoholic isn't going to stop them from drinking. It might just make the problem worse but we also shouldn't be glamorizing or sugar coating it with lies that it is healthy and brave because once again it could also make it worse

[@bdflatlander]

@@johannduplessis3467 : Thank you for your kind words. You’re right in that shaming an alcoholic won’t make things any better or will have much, if any, effect in making them want stop drinking. That motivation has to come from the alcoholic themselves and my brother never had the necessary motivation to want to quit drinking. My dad and I offered to pay for the best rehab available but it’s like the old joke about leading a horse to water but what the horse really wants to drink is whisky. I was talking to a former boss about my brother right when he was becoming seriously ill because I thought that it would force me to have to take some extra time away from work to help him. My boss’ father died because of his alcoholism and he told me from his experience with his dad that the only help an alcoholic wants is help to keep drinking. That was the case with my brother too.

[@cool870]

acceptance at every size, not health at every size. no one should be shamed for their weight but you can’t be obese and healthy

[@taliag09]

Obesity itself is literally a medical condition. By *definition* not healthy to be obese.

[@lucyhanna5172]

well said.

[@idDDtapthat]

yeah I can't take it when fat activists claim that they promote body positivity when they skinny-shame other people

[@millie209]

And you're still deserving of respect if you're not healthy

[@taliag09]

@@millie209 Of course, everyone deserves respect. The extreme side of the fat acceptance movement is dangerous though. It's promoting disordered eating much the same as pro-ana groups do. For some reason it's ok to call those groups out and "skinny shame" - maybe because thinner people tend to experience privilege due to being more societally attractive than their overweight counterparts.

[@danielh96s]

So you're telling me the 'health at every size'-movement was started by someone who's last name was Bacon? Truly, what a world we're living in

[@lenabendidi782]

lol yea I don’t trust people who’s eyes are always wide open

[@gb-oz5kn]

Finally someone who mentions it she looks insane heck i am a huy much younger than her more than a head taller and she scares me

[@amiapsychopat]

As a girl who grew up chubby (not obese) I am very happy about the representation of different body types in fashion nowadays. When I saw a shot of a model with exactly my body type in a lingerie shop, I was very grateful because to me it seems like people like us who are not super skinny are simply left out of fashion, so I see a positive side in featuring models like Tess Holiday. The thing that really bothers me though is the arringance and complete unwillingness to change anything about their bodies, which clearly causkng them discomfort. I was never in an unhealthy weight range, but I am still working hard not to be in the future, because I still want to feel good in my body when I'm old. Seeing these morbidly obese people glorifying their issues makes me very angry bc this is not what body positivity should be about. It's about feeling good and valued at every size, not ignoring your obvious problems and giving up on a healthy and comfortable body.

[@MarcLeonbacher-lb2oe]

But there are people for whom such a weight is sexually arousing.

[@t88808]

these people relating weight with race doesn't sit right with me

[@pyruvicac.id_]

Because it`s not right, one is in the end a choice, just like being alcoholism or gambling addiction are choices, not necessarily easily to change, but you can change it, even if genetics might make it harder than for others, it is always a choice, race however is in no way ever a choice. Comparing the two is not only false, but that sort of ignorance and delusional thinking is pretty racist i`d say.

[@pyruvicac.id_]

Must say I`ve even heard black women make the comparrison, which really confuses me, like how don`t they realise that one thing is within their control and the other isn`t?

[@aajohnson5684]

I wondered if I was the only one who paused here. How do we live in the same reality? You literally have so much control over your issue it just comes down to living healthier. Our negative experiences as POC literally persist throughout our lifetime with literally no options for change outside of structural adjustment to societal institutions. That’s like comparing apples to oranges

[@westvirginiaboy4491]

When I shot dope it was my fault. Noone bought it for me. Gave it for free. My dealer was white. So people just need to.own their stuff fix it or just be quiet

[@user-nana1111]

The way she compared being fat to being poc ... 💀

[@pointless.videos1]

When Tess put “having a different skin color” on the same level as being fat, I was like “Oh naw 💀 rich famous girl thinks she’s oppressed”

[@asunahusama]

Lmao right. Like since when was a person lynched or hung just for being fat?? She was clearly reaching.

[@MiniMeags]

😂😂 legit

[@aliciagorgont2677]

Lmoa at the rich famous girl 👀👀

[@ashk268]

rich famous white american 💀

[@yasminemobley7858]

I'm sorry... she did WHAT?!!!!!!

[@ryniepan3038]

The thing about BMI is that health is more nuanced than what it suggests but they take that and RUN with it. For example, at 16, I was 175 pounds, 5’3”. This is obese by BMI standards. HOWEVER! I was a double sport athlete (playing softball and competitive swim) who had well-defined muscles and could deadlift almost 3x my weight. But you can also obviously tell the difference between someone who is heavy due to muscle composition and someone who is heavy due to fat.

[@aint2proud2meg]

100%. The BMI scale has done that to me before (it sucked because it was hurdle when I was joining the military), but the ugly truth now is that it’s accurate. I am not The Rock, lol. Just regained a bunch of weight. Using the outliers and applying it to themselves (when they know damn well it’s not muscle mass) is either denial or a plain ol lie.

[@trolleriffic]

BMI is mostly pretty useful. Where it really fails is that it misses "skinny fat" people who are a "healthy" BMI but have unhealthy amounts of body fat. This represents about 30% of people with a healthy BMI so it's a lot of people, unlike the low single-digit percentage of people who are classed as overweight or obese due to being very muscular. Also doctors and health professionals tend to miss skinny fat people and often don't recognise that their body composition is unhealthy, whereas the vast majority of doctors could tell that an athlete with a BMI of 29 wasn't actually fat.

[@fbwsrd9910]

Also body frame size plays a role. Some people naturally have bigger frames so they will weigh more (and or denser bones). And smaller frames can be fine on bmi but actually carrying excess weight. It's why there is talk of lowering the obesity threshold for asain people to 23. Frankly, bmi is most accurate for white people.

[@quannguyen1381]

The BMI work based on HOW YOU LOOK !!! When you're in the BMI it's not meant you're Healthy, It's meant you're LOOKS HEALTHY ( Looks NORMAL ) below the 20 is the PRETTY GIRLS GAME you're either Pretty or Prettier and that's is when your face features ratio came in !!! For examples If Tess was in the BMI she would be out there competing with KENDALL with GIGI,... and The harsh truth A PRETTY FACE IS A PRETTY FACE no but... no reason, no society opinion, no personality.... You could call Amber heard by a lot of bad words but i DARE you call her "UGLY FACE" !!! And Rumors has that people made her stay fat because it's easier for her to made MORE MONEY when she doesn't have to compete with others "Pretty Obisety" Girls !!!!

[@UniquaDaBackyardigan]

Tess unfollowed someone who had idolized her bc the woman shared her weight lost journey and it was..."triggering" for Tess. But somehow, she's brave enough to sit across from a thin personal trainer and be around actual models. Im sure it has nothing to do with the cameras rolling.

[@bjenner2100]

Did she just relate being a different race to being fat?? honey NO.

[@beepbeepcasucha]

As a woc I get what she means and I think she's trying to empathise a little but.... it's a little...hmm 😅

[@bladeeshotgf5500]

I caught that too. I was like excuse me? YOU can go to the gym and put down that burger but the heck could I do to stop being brown 😆

[@mega-egg5808]

@@bladeeshotgf5500 Go to the gym and eat healthy is not the be all end all to weight loss, honey. It's not right for her to compare it, but you've gotta admit you're just being fatphobic lol.

[@bladeeshotgf5500]

mega-egg true. Fats gross me out. Thank God I’m skinny and brown.

[@teddybearkiller5271]

@@mega-egg5808 I'm trying to lose weight right now so i CAN be beautiful. 😁

[@makaylablakeslee553]

If people are “healthy at every size” that means everyone. So how are people dying from not eating enough? Or having severe health problems because of not eating? It goes both ways

[@makaylablakeslee553]

@@thisbydumplings what I meant is eating disorders go both ways. You can have issues where u keep eating even if u are full. That’s an unhealthy rls with food. An Ed doesn’t just mean u don’t eat enough.

[@thisbydumplings]

@@makaylablakeslee553 I see

[@redrefrigerator8458]

@@thisbydumplings also malnourishment can occur in obese people. Malnourishment just means you have so little of the correct vitamins and minerals that your health starts to be badly hit

[@doceansdeepwoo2532]

Meth heads, crack heads, heroine addicts, anorexics, etc. tend to be thin, are they healthy? Is it healthy to be suicidal over gaining 5 lb.? I hear it too often. is it healthy to start smoking again because quitting made you gain weight? Is it health to isolate because you fear being shamed? Is it healthy to actually physically abuse people because they are fat? Is it healthy to, as one actress did, try to survive on bits of cotton soaked in 0 calorie juice because "I can't be fat!" until she collapsed on the floor? Is it healthy to trust any industry to tell the truth when lying makes them way more money? The diet and fitness industry would be out of business if they ever really told the truth. For now, I rest my case.

[@Wdnsdyschild]

@@doceansdeepwoo2532 None of those things are healthy and no one is claiming them to be. But, neither is obesity.

[@BSG0005]

There’s nothing more important than health. I’ve wanted to be skinny my whole life (while maintaining a healthy weight), but I’ve recently become very ill & have been losing weight at an alarming weight. Health is the ideal, never take that for granted.

[@JW_934]

I love the sentence "when Nike rolled out a plus size mannequin so fat people could exercise" lmao an absolute necessity

[@aint2proud2meg]

At my biggest lows (read: highest weights) workout clothes with some actual structure that weren’t horrifically unflattering WERE a necessity, at least for me to go work out in public. You’re already risking being mocked/recorded. If feels better to have well fitting workout clothes that don’t ride up your ass or make you sweat like a sow.

[@mahika4261]

No one should be bullied for being overweight (or any reason) BUT OBESITY SHOULDN'T BE NORMALISED. Being 5 kg overweight is fine, 50 kgs overweight IS NOT.

[@shaniabeaulieu9403]

THIS!!!

[@DiamantisHell]

@Sylvie you think bullying is the solution? The only waste of space here is you

[@aimee2053]

@Sylvie I was a big child in primary school because I was short and people told me to kms, I wouldnt expect you being calm if I ever told a child to kill therselves. Grow up

[@Natalia-pe1lh]

@Sylvie You're opinion is 💫trash💫

[@Natalia-pe1lh]

+++

[@senso5632]

As someone who is currently overweight but is trying to get healthier, I'll say this: If you are happy and comfortable with the state that your body is currently in, that's incredible and you should do whatever makes you happy. But, you shouldn't allow yourself to be fooled by the illusion that being overweight isn't unhealthy, because it absolutely is, in almost every case.

[@R0BIN_]

In all cases. More strain on your heart

[@katherinekier]

Good luck to you 🙏🏽

[@stefanopanucci6279]

@@springchickena1 uh?

[@LiterallyLike]

@@springchickena1 “almost” because (for example) bodybuilders can be overweight according to bmi but still healthy, and someone who’s barely in the overweight range (like 5 lbs) probably isn’t gonna run into a lot of health problems from that

[@gamzee3610]

@@LiterallyLike Also because of how BMI is calculated it skews higher for tall people and lower for short people. So a tall person could be a healthy weight but technically be 'overweight' (Honestly BMI is kind of flawed in determining individualistic health bc it was designed for studying population averages, and stuff like hip-to-waist ratio and body-fat precentages are better for determining personal health)

[@hylianflower9681]

One of my favorite remarks i ever made was about 4 years ago i made a post that said "imagine how beautiful tess holiday would be if she was skinny." Because, by golly, her face and her hair is gorgeous. If you took away her glorifying obesity, maybe even just being like 200 pounds, She would be absolutely gorgeous-- and generic. She knows the only thing that makes her special is her fat

[@macgyversmacbook1861]

A lady who won American Idol died recently, of what? Stage III obesity, which is another reason why I can’t stand these people

[@teshc4795]

This all started when society saw a fat person and called them "ugly" instead of "unhealthy". Health and vanity are not the same.

[@ightimmaheadout290]

most people don't care when they see an obese person. The only person that cares is the obese person who can't get anybody (for obvious reasons)and then blames society which is stupid, because we are wired to find healthy humans attractive. Obese women are not healthy

[@teshc4795]

@@ightimmaheadout290 Well, yes, I never said they were.

[@teshc4795]

@Jack Hoff Well yes but there's a difference between, "Hey, what you're doing is killing you, you should lose weight." and "Hey, you're ugly, lose weight."

[@teshc4795]

@Jack Hoff I get what you're saying.

[@maryoomaaziz3606]

@@ightimmaheadout290 that’s ur own opinion... many of these fat women are actually in relationships and are seen as attractive by their partners lol, the goal should be to push them to be healthy and not sexy

[@mirandakeigher819]

Censoring the word "obese" is like censoring the word "eczema". It's... it's a health condition. It's a medical term. Edit: I've seen a lot of responses about how certain taboo words used to be medical terms, and I agree. I'm not sure if "obese" had gotten to the point of censoring, but I'm not part of that community so it's not really for me to say. Thanks to everyone being so respectful!

[@glassXmoon]

You're wrong! My ecz*ma is beautiful in its own way!

[@selinawalsh9075]

@Andrew Murray Nobody is saying biological sex isn't real. People are saying that gender is not as simple as male and female, but no-one is saying that there are more than two sexes except for the people who say people are saying that.

[@catcar9157]

Yeah but more like like, “How dare you call me hypertensive!!”, I said to my blood pressure machine or my doctor!

[@chucklebutt4470]

@Andrew Murray Why tf are you bringing that up in a totally unrelated video?

[@realestofthereals]

@@chucklebutt4470 Honestly yeah why tf is he talking about it under a obesity video? so offtopic and for what?

[@Ynitsedneek]

It’s very interesting to watch this because for so long I used say “im fat and healthy” when I wasn’t. I have lost 45lbs and I feel fantastic. I can go on walks and not be out of breath and I’m able to keep a healthy blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. However, it is so empowering to feel like I’ve positively changed my life and it helps with my anxiety. Like I’ve got to be healthier than before, but not just in physical but also mental :)

[@thestraycat907]

She also lied about her weight and clothing size.....she is FAR more than the 285-300 pounds she claims. And she is far bigger than a size 22.

[@platinum_noelle]

Why do they use the "eff your beauty standards" hashtag? The only "beauty standard" they're refusing is weight related. Tess still uses makeup, has her hair professionally done (and almost certainly dyes it, probably even has extensions too), wears designer clothes,wears heels, has straight and whitened teeth, etc. What other beauty standard are they addressing? Because weight is definitely not the only beauty standard, and Tess ticks all the standard beauty boxes aside from weight.

[@Latte00000]

Yes, you have a really good point!

[@gretaweiss6802]

And has had plastic surgery too!!!

[@the_emmasculator]

and a crap ton of photoshop.

[@noone-re3zp]

ooof that’s such a good point

[@skysten2605]

She is addressing the beauty standard relating to weight, which is a very strong limitation in our society. She is under no obligation to address other beauty ideas which she doesn't personally find limiting

[@ergovisavis]

Imagine smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day and claiming your lifestyle is healthy because your bloodwork is (still) fine.

[@hersheycat6526]

I’ve heard people argue that e-cigarettes are fine and don’t cause health issues. People will justify just about any habit they have especially if it’s addictive.

[@XxLostFinalGirlxX]

People do claim that because they don't care that cigs will kill them

[@bassa8333]

@@hersheycat6526 I always justify e-sigarettes as being healthy on the short term. Nobody knows what it’s going to do with my body in 10-20 years. People feel healthier with e-sigarettes because there’s no tar in it.

[@hersheycat6526]

@@bassa8333 still not good for you. Even smoke from wood in a campfire is bad for your lungs so you’re never supposed to stand down wind of smoke. It may be better than a regular cigarette but that’s like hitting your head with your fist as opposed to a hammer. Sure your fist is less bad but it’s still horrible for you.

[@Boyso5407]

That’s me. I’ve been smoking for about 25 years and I’ve always had great blood pressure, blood work, good BMI etc. But even though my numbers are great and visually I look fine, I know im not heathy simply because I smoke. There’s no way that a person causing damage to their body, wether it be smoking or over eating, can say they’re healthy.

[@leevc2037]

I've always believed that there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between being a little "squishy" or "plushy" and being OBESE!! If you're got a little bit of a tummy, thick thighs or whatever, yeah you aren't perfect but you're probably still able to move about normally, can bend your arms, exercise, etc. And yeah, there are people out there who eat normally and exercise and still have a little bit of "fluff". But being so heavy you can't see your feet, or your joint crack everytime you walk or need a Rascal or Walker to get around? That is NOT GOOD. AT ALL.

[@xandercrew6088]

I think shame IS needed in society, we should bring that back so people can wake up from the delusion

[@yourlonglostbeachball5905]

Also, calling out skinny girls for your insecurities shows that you don’t actually accept yourself. It’s gross behavior. Don’t tell someone to eat a cheeseburger unless you can handle being told to put one down right back at you.

[@goldilox369]

I will actually back that up! And coming from a fat girl who had done this, I stand corrected. And I will admit it was from my prejudices & insecurities.

[@tartnouveau3652]

It sucks to hear that shit no matter what size you are. It’s sad that hurt people feel the need to hurt people. It doesn’t accomplish anything.

[@MeditationsWithSam]

@@goldilox369 i respect you. Thank you for your honesty. ❤️

[@AnnaKwonda]

YASSSSSS! Preach!

[@KyndalTheMeister]

In general we need to stop commenting to each other about appearance, unless there is actual concern for a person’s well being (for example, your friend looks very ill so you want to help). We should become equally obsessed with commenting on people’s kindness, or empathy

[@09lealily]

Did I just hear Tess compare obesity to being a different race

[@09lealily]

@Green Sky doesn’t surprise me

[@lady4191]

You ever struggle being 300 lbs? If not you have no godamn clue what it is like. You DO get treated like a lower citizen class just like people who are non-white in america. Like we're all lazy. I started dieting on slim fast in 5th grade first of many attempts, and have never given up the struggle. I have always been heavy my weight goes up and down and its worse for your heart and liver than staying at 1 weight even if it's an unhealthy weight. Having pcos and hashemotos hypo thyroid, took my ability to be a mom took my breasts that never grew properly gave me hair on my face and bald spots on my head made me never develop a sex drive, thank God for that one cause who wants to be with a fat balding hairy woman with self-esteem issues from being treated like shit all there life. This is only what I'm willing to share but there's alot more. You people have contempt where your compassion should be.

[@09lealily]

@@lady4191 Firstly, I definitely agree that people who are over weight are treated unjustly, and I fully sympathise for someone in your medical situation. Correct me if I’m wrong but you’re a white lady? (If you aren’t then this still applies as Tess is.) By your ideology, you have no right to say that poc are treated the same as you when the evidence shows that they aren’t. Being obese doesn’t make you more likely to be killed by police and doesn’t come along with all the other social and political issues poc face. That’s not to say you don’t face horrible people and situations because I’m sure you do. My comment was referring to the woman in this video. She doesn’t have any medical issues (as far as I’ve been informed), other than what I’m assuming is an eating disorder. For her to compare her situation to being comparable to a person of colours situation is still incredibly ignorant. The comment above also states that she’s supposedly racist anyway, further reiterating my point.

[@09lealily]

@@lady4191 Again, I really do feel for your situation, my original comment is in reference to Tess and her ignorance. I understand that seeing people bash a 300 lb person, whilst being 300 lb is damaging. In my opinion medical situations are exempt and to bash someone for something out of their control is malevolent

[@Diamond-xl1vs]

@Rouven Knp 😂

[@allenmadison8775]

A great thing would be to do a story on people who listened to Tess and now are having health problems because they did...

[@aa1589]

It's so bizarre seeing college educated people use terms like "correlation does not equal causation" to distort the truth. We learn those tools to deseminate what's real and what's not, to see them used to gaslight is dissappointing.

[@Intothesunset89]

“Losing weight for medical reasons is not body positive” what in the world, how about I love myself enough to ensure that I live as long as possible?

[@skittytail0334]

It's so scary to think that some people might listen to this stuff and die earlier because of it. I can't believe that someone who's really happy with life and themselves would want to lead others to an early grave.

[@miriamhavard7621]

How DARE you speak logically!!!! ☺️😂👍

[@Baguettish]

IKR? I can't think of anything more body positive than taking proper care of your body so you can enjoy it and what it enables you to do for longer.

[@Aristaifly]

This mentality of quote you wrote is a killer mentality. whose on earth is it business and labeling when it comes to your relationships with your body?

[@HollywoodWhore17]

It’s because all doctors are FATPHOBIC and it’s all a conspiracy to erase fat people from the world, don’t you know this?! (I’m being sarcastic, but honestly - I’ve seen this argument more times that I can count.)

[@dalonclance6167]

Lol.... as a former 400lb guy who used to think, "I'll never become a diabetic."... oh wait... that was until I did. Caught it early and decided to lose weight. It has been one hell of a 4 year adventure. I like your style ma'am. Stay well....

[@SkylaSugar]

So proud of you! I'm 300 and these videos are definitely helping me lose it.

[@kamilareeder1493]

Good for you :) I'm a personal trainer now and have literally lost friends over this. I dont like to pressure people into excersise but the mere fact that im a trainer caused people to stop talking to me :( I think that there is soooooo much misinformation about fitness and they literally make trainers sound like nazis. Its weird to be a fitness professional between the two extremes of HAES and the all the fake fitness gurus on Instagram who promote unhealthy relatio ships w dieting :( . So many of the HAES people have youth on their side still and don't realise how bad it'll affect them once they hit their 30s 👀 Makes me worry. Like you have to catch it early to undo damage, so some of these ladies may have to live w permanent consequences from these choices :( and there won't be much that can be done to reverse the damage at that point

[@kamilareeder1493]

@@SkylaSugar stick with it :) its so HARD. if it was easy to be healthy in America there wouldn't be an obesity problem :P just do your best and don't ever give up on yourself ^^ Don't be afraid to connect with trainers and dieticians online if you need help :) many offer cheaper rates for zoom/group sessions where you can make friends and have professional support at the same time 😉

[@mgray999]

Why did you think you'd never get it?

[@dalonclance6167]

@@mgray999 I was only 33. I figured it was an "older" person's disease.

[@SyriusStarMultimedia]

The Department of Defense started using BMI measurements to kick people out of the military in the mid-late 1980s. While the program had an official name, the soldiers referred to it as; “The Fatboy Program.” Some of my coworkers got booted while leaders made no distinction between actual fat people and extremely muscular people.

[@yoomsterart]

I remember when I asked a new roommate about food preferences, she started off by saying that she "doesn't believe in healthy food", doesn't eat fruit or vegetables, and implied that anyone who says otherwise is fatphobic. I stared blankly at her. She wasn't obese but overweight and was probably gaining weight, with those eating habits. I just stopped trying to even eat with her since our food preferences were so different.

[@abhisheksathe123]

55mins. She dropped a whole movie this time.

[@karlareyes1671]

A Documental

[@priscillalopez6764]

@New York City Boy v

[@meganh4532]

Exactly what we need.

[@marvalice3455]

Long girl good!

[@erikandvivianrossizalkus9329]

What movie!!?

[@ldreese33]

When I hit almost 250 lbs I realized there was a problem. I started dieting and exercising. I am around 195 lbs now.

[@Rosalin997]

That’s good ! You got this !! I’m sure you’ll be able to get to you ugw :)

[@louiselouise2686]

That’s some really good progress, keep up the good work I’m proud of you ❤️

[@no1noseimelvis37]

Hell yeah

[@hazma9970]

Damn that's some serious dedication, congrats man

[@ldreese33]

@@hazma9970 thank you

[@sarahclark78]

Nobody should be vilified or insulted due to their appearance. That is a given, one of the foundations of civilised society . But trying to normalise something so dangerous is downright irresponsible, if not actually criminal. Thank you for this, it was informative.

[@bearbaitofficial]

"losing weight for medical reasons is not body positive" is wild

[@raffptor]

Loving yourself isn’t just finding yourself beautiful. It’s taking care of yourself, eating healthy etc.

[@AbbzJordan]

This!!!! I love this. Thank you for saying this because I think people believe that loving yourself means you don't want to change or get healthy.

[@nanasshi0711]

"love yourself" phrase has been abused to condition people to not make the necessary changes to better their life. that's toxic positivity

[@ihcuhcalaK]

loving yourself also includes loving your joints

[@bionicsouthernbelle1539]

@@ihcuhcalaK Not to mention your arteries, heart, and other organs affected by obesity!

[@vishalgugnani2136]

But these women don't use logic because for them being obese is beautiful unless you get sick from your dangerous lifestyle

[@captsamsung]

When I heard one of the people say, "if you lose weight for medical reasons. You're not body positive!" I rolled my eyes so hard they nearly fell out of my head.

[@andrewterebinov3823]

Sounds to me like if you have cancer and you broked up with smoking you're not body positive. P. S. I didn't learn English so many mounts already, so Im sure I did mustikes

[@zahraa4149]

This reminds of the disabled people who get mad at other disabled people for saying they would prefer to be able-bodied if they could. Appearantly it's "ableist" to not want to be disabled

[@KayNovember26]

You're also not a moron! Obesity WILL kill you. I am a health care worker. If you don't believe me, Covid will give you the answer. 90% of our Covid fatalities were plus sized patients.

[@martinriveter605]

Oh God

[@nickkorablyov5641]

True, its actually what body positive promotes xD

[@hylianflower9681]

Im 175 pounds. Im overweight. Im close to being obese. And im only 23 and i am facing problems with my anxiety getting worse cuz of the pressure on my heart so now im taking a medication for blood pressure as needed, and my knees and lower back are affected. Im in this awkward stage where everyone thinks im pregnant cuz im just that "size." Its embarrassing. Health even at my size is NOT ok. I have got to change now if i want to have a good life... so im measuring my food and weighing myself. Oh and not to mention my weight also affects my feet. I stand all day at work, and i need to get new insoles. It just sucks. My weight literally crept up on me... i feel like one day i was still 140 pounds, then the next i looked in the mirror and was like "Ayo wtf am i fat???"

[@kayc.8283]

Maybe your insulin resistant. It packs on the pounds

[@MelB868]

How tall are you I'm 5'3" and 180

[@MelB868]

Actually I'm going to get a shower get pajamas on and do an exercise show

[@Juniper.the.tree.]

This is a beautifully researched video props to you

[@blueblue232]

My dad literally died from a heart attack that was caused by obesity. I can't believe it's still an arguement that you can be 200 pounds overweight and be healthy.

[@sayarasa8961]

I'm so sorry for your lost

[@djroscurro9859]

Sorry dude. I hope things are going well.

[@djroscurro9859]

Sorry dude. I hope things are going well.

[@melaniecombs9325]

Also meant to add I’m very sorry for your loss. May your father Rest In Peace and I hope you have happy memories with him.

[@joshclearwater6461]

It isn't really

[@vibrantchill7212]

"Well I wouldn't be obese if I was 7 ft tall so I'm not obese" girl what are you smoking and can I have some

[@swagger1021]

LMAO

[@akkubakku5124]

She is 1.65 mtrs

[@stevenmanwaring8943]

Her comment was definitely a little confusing and it took me a couple times to understand it, but what she is saying is that according to her bmi stats (which is bs anyway as i was technically obese according to the bmi scale when i had less than 5% fat but I was into weight lifting pretty hard core so I was definitely skinnier than your average 6foot tall 260 pound person.) Anyway she wasn't really saying she wouldn't be obese if she was 7 feet tall although I'm pretty sure she would still be considered obese at her highest weight. What she was saying is that since the shorter you are the higher your bmi at a particular weight and since her height and weight combination puts her in the obese category and that it comes with many health problems and she was saying that she can attest to its inaccuracy because she in her mind is 100% healthy which just simply can't be true. Even if she doesn't currently have major issues I can tell you for sure that she will. As a mechanic and a metaphor lover I will put it this way. If you have the proper diagnostic equipment you can identify multiple detrimental problems with your car without any readily apparent problems like a check engine light but if you go under "pending codes" you can have a bunch of problems that just haven't had time to manifest in a clear and observable way

[@mrs.obamalynn]

Yeah and i wouldn’t be black if I was white

[@kingvincentarchcravenxiii1141]

@steven manwaring A bit long agree. Basically she thinks anyone who weighs the same should all be considered the same whether that’s obese or not. Which is BS cuz there’s other factors that go into determin8ng if someone is obese and unhealthy, like height, fat, muscles and also there are some people who are just built big. I think most elementary school kids would even understand this. also agree the BMI scale is bit BS. According to it I’m obese and have been since I hit 160lbs. If you looked at me, you wouldn’t even think I was fat. Most of it is IN MY BELLYYyy. I’m def not as healthy as I should be, but like, obese? Seems like a stretch, in my situation. although doctors are now saying that the BMI chart is just a guideline and that everyone is different and depends also on the person and their genes and other shit.

[@Nurse227]

I’m 5”11 and I was always a size 10 all through high school I was not obese but after I had my three kids I was close to 300 lbs and I didn’t look it because I carry my weight differently because of my height but I was absolutely miserable my joints hurt I was always tired and I hated the way I looked. I started to lose weight and I am now 180, and my friends and some idiots online have told me I didn’t need to lose the weight I was perfectly fine. I almost died having my last child because I had gestational diabetes and my blood pressure was sky high being overweight is 100% detrimental to your health I am still dealing with blood pressure issues from the excess weight.

[@JanFreygang]

This video is insane! So good! Well done!!! Loved how you kept the narrative objective yet it is clear that this body positivity movement is just justifying this epidemic of obesity!

[@CrazyBeautifulFreak]

Nike having plus size mannequins is great. I think it makes it easier and more accessible for oversized people going to the gym. When I was fat I couldn’t get good exercise clothes.

[@wingedyera]

Also the size of those mannequins still was a normal healthy size. Not to mention much closer to the actually size of the general population, and since mannequins are meant to show how the clothing would look on a person it makes sense to show it on a body that is more like the average body

[@lovereiki7144]

You don't need special exercise clothes or gym clothes. That's just marketing. You need something you have freedom of movement in. Sweat pants and a baggy t-shirt.

[@emmajanedonnelly1524]

@@lovereiki7144 I agree, but sometimes having specific clothing can equal a change of mindset when it comes to working out. For me sweat pants = comfort and gym leggings = workout time

[@shauniegirl5598]

And for people like me who are bigger but workout it's great for us and it's a move in the right direction

[@liawatson5789]

Weight loss is 80% diet 20% exercise.

[@taniaackerman]

One of my childhood friends, who was already fat as a kid because of the unhealthy habits and parents who couldn't say "no" to anything, became morbidly obese at 17 and had to use an oxygen mask during night because he developed sleeping apnea. He ended up dying from a heart attack at just 25, being so obese firefighters had to cut out the window to take his body out... His sister, who was also my friend, was able to change and get healthy and she's still doing fine. I believe in respecting people and I fight against fat stigma in medicine as a healthcare worker, but I can't with people who say being obese is harmless. It's NOT.

[@kjdempsey]

@Venus do you wanna come over to mine and take it back to the Dawson’s Creek days?

[@kjdempsey]

@Venus no need to worry Venus, we can watch every season, I’ll pay for your flight to England. ‘I don’t wanna wait’

[@kjdempsey]

@Venus or I’ll just fly to the states then, I really miss you

[@MeatEatingVegan777]

I actually didn't think it was possible to die from a heart attack at 25. Oh my goodness. That's horrible. I feel horrible for them. NOBODY should be dying from something completely preventable at the age of 25! I've got weight issues too, I am sticking to low carb rightnow. Trying to lose weight. Why? Because, I'm getting older, and I realize that being very overweight is very dangerous.

[@kjdempsey]

@@MeatEatingVegan777 sorry mate but there’s more important things going on here, I’m trying to get back with my ex Venus

[@lydialevorson3681]

Thank you for talking about this subject while not being an a-hole. I’ve noticed that other people who cover this subject who aren’t or never were fat at one point just see it as an excuse to be horribly rude, fatphobic, and insulting. Approaching the subject with no sensitivity or nuance. Thank you for being respectful. This is a great video

[@booknookcafe]

I know this video is 3 years old so the probability of anyone seeing this comment is low…but how no one has pointed out the cult-like language of the “HASE” and “Fat Positivity” movements is baffling

[@xandercrew6088]

Tons of us have called it a cult from the beginning -- just like the gender ideology mafia cult

[@ezekielsmith8603]

I used to be obese. I had confidence in my looks, but I still knew i wasnt healthy. There is a difference between telling yourself that you're beautiful at any size, and telling yourself you're healthy at any size. I loved myself enough to be confident most of the time, but eventually i loved my body enough to eat right, excercise, and lose the weight.

[@stopreplyingtomycomments7954]

Congrats! I hope you're better now

[@nonusername7534]

*This* really needs to be said, being beautiful and being confident has *Nothing* to do with being healthy

[@pencey]

did you use eating to treat anxiety or depression?

[@elvesnspells7774]

I was born with a facial deformity. I joined the body posi movement because it was absolutely horrible growing up and getting bullied for things i couldn't change even with surgery. And I joined...and nothing. I even got ridiculed by these grown women in these groups and mass online accounts. It's body positivity only if your obese. I also struggled with an eating disorder which made me fluctuate between skinny and obese and honestly...that movement is TORTURE.

[@KristiLEvans1]

That’s the thing that seriously bothers me - the BLATANT hypocrisy and mean-girl culture

[@mayanotopsleep]

hey, i hope youre doing okay! i understand how it can really ruin our self-esteem but all of us can learn how to accept ourselves more. it's so sad that people judge others by things that they cant even control. i personally think the concept of body positivity is good, but the movement? it's shit. it's full of bullies, elitist and people full of anger and jealousy.

[@christopherstein2024]

@@KristiLEvans1 Everytime I hear the "Bullies are actually just insecure weaklings" speech in any type of form my whole body cringes. Do people really not see the hypocrisy in that ?

[@KristiLEvans1]

@@christopherstein2024 the hypocrisy in the speech, or the reality of mean, self-indulgent bullies?

[@KristiLEvans1]

@@christopherstein2024 not sure who gave a speech, unless you’re responding to something else?

[@jeremiahlarkin1134]

A Pack of Lie’s!! OBESITY is A Slow SUICIDE!!! I should know as I was 400LB’S at my heaviest!!!!!!! And Diabetes & Neuropathy was KILLING me!!!! I’m not a normal weight for a 6’2 64 year old man !!! 👴🏻 Thankyou Ms. K. For Sharing these Videos with us!!!! I have never FELT BETTER!!!!! And my Energy is off the charts Wonderful!!!!

[@jeremiahlarkin1134]

I’m Now A Normal Weight!!!!

[@notsae66]

A wave of deaths in the family sent me into a long spiral of depression, during which I went from a beanpole to nearly four hundred pounds. Seeing this heinous movement was the shock I needed to start exercising and eating better in earnest. My journey to a healthy weight has only just begun, but even just a few weeks in I already feel better both mentally and physically. These people promoting this nihilistic evil are the physical embodiment of misery trying to drag you down to their level, they are crabs in a bucket tearing at those that want to better themselves. Don't let these demons drag you down, they want you to wallow in the filth and decay with them.

[@kritchandler]

at 16 I was 300lbs and couldn't lose weight, and did start thinking, "this is just me". If this is you, GO TO YOUR DOCTOR! I had thyroid disease and celiac disease. I'm now 30 and a healthy weight, and feel 100x better.

[@cyrusthelizardking]

I’d like to say this makes me feel better, I’m in England so don’t quite know much about lbs but I’m 17 and around 195lbs. Knowing with enough work I can be healthier is really amazing- thank you (I hope this isn’t offensive haha)

[@criticRN]

Good stuff 👍🏽

[@Saibellus]

it's inarguable that overweight people have a lot of health issues overlooked or attributed to their size. but it's also inarguable that having hundreds of pounds of fat on your body has profound health effects. im always so baffled by the all or nothing mentality people have. its possible for the medical community to need to do better without obesity being harmless.

[@NicknotNak]

I got on medication and dropped almost 30 pounds that I really didn't have to spare. When I switched medications (due to side effects) I immediately gained all that weight back, plus an additional 25 pounds. I went from being underweight to overweight in a month. When I brought this up I was dismissed. My family wasn't great about it either, and so I just put up with it. Eventually I got off that medication and over a few months my weight returned to its baseline, no changes to my diet, exercise or lifestyle needed. If you have a typical relationship with food (which I get people struggle with, I do too) and you can't lose weight, it might be something to discuss with a doctor.

[@cestalia]

I agree, my friend has lupus and she's pretty much consults with her doctor as well regarding her diet (which is for religion purpose)

[@hehehehehehehehehehe111]

I find HAES extremely disrespectful because it takes away all personal freedom, saying “oh being fat is genetic you can’t change it” when in reality, eating less and exercising more does work. Your body is always under your control and its so disempowering to preach otherwise.

[@birblover6423]

Its OUR body comrade

[@hollyann5717]

Very great point to make. This is one of the things I really hate about these movements. No one can take our power away. No one can tell me I can't do it because I DID DO IT. And guess what...I'm not special. Anyone can do what I did.

[@dainluke]

I like this comment. I have always held this opinion. When I embarked on my weight loss journey from obesity at 16, yes part of it was because I wanted to appear better looking to others, that's always going to be a factor. But by far and large I did so because I wanted to prove to myself that I could do it, I was tired of being a victim of genetics.

[@dominator1217]

If you hate your personal freedoms being taken away, why do you have a soviet symbol as your profile pic?

[@hehehehehehehehehehe111]

DeVious stfu

[@OGDimebag]

The coffin industry must love this movement

[@societopathyobserved9785]

I’ve been overweight my whole life, without much fluctuation until I started to gain during Covid. Something clicked recently, and I became completely ready for a change. And I’ve already lost weight, without even really doing anything. All that happened was that I realized how much I was late-night snacking, so I committed to an actually pretty lax intermittent fasting structure of not eating after midnight and skipping breakfast until 3 or 4pm. My friends have already noticed a change, and I think I do too. But beyond the timing of it, I haven’t changed my diet at all, aside from what appears to be lessened appetite generally, probably from eating less across the board and my stomach adjusted. I still eat what I want, and I haven’t even fully committed to the workout structure I’ve been thinking about. So I’m tired of all these people saying it’s impossible. It’s not. You just have to commit. And you don’t have to starve all the time. There is such a thing as moderation.

[@yungkim5834]

The thing is, Tess is has a very pretty face. That’s the only reason why she is a model.. there are plenty of women of her size I see on a daily basis that the model industry probably would never give chance cause they aren’t conventionally attractive.

[@xVanillaxBerryx]

Tess Holiday has that Tyra Banks smize technique on lock!!!

[@neb0101]

She also had plastic surgery and wears heavy makeup..

[@penelope3995]

@Канал Светкин Анал 😑😑

[@paullee3660]

You clearly haven’t seen her without the makeup.

[@vquoi2]

The main advantage she has over other plus-sized models is not so much her pretty face, but rather the fact that she has a relatively thin face and relatively thin neck. If you just look at a photo of her from the neck up, you might guess she's overweight, but not so morbidly obese. She has a pretty face, but it's her smaller overall neck size that gives her a more striking appearance when compared to other large women (Ex. Mama June pre-surgery).

[@missmollyc]

One thing that really bothers me is that in mainstream media, “curvy” and “obese” are often grouped together- they’re not the same thing. Curvy originally meant that you live a healthy lifestyle and are a healthy weight, but you naturally have larger bust, butt, hips, etc. Obese is a medical problem where you are overweight and do not live a healthy lifestyle. They’re often used interchangeably, and it’s quite frustrating for people who are actually curvy to be categorized with obese people.

[@ingridespinoza106]

@molly I like what you said but the last sentence is just rude and not relevant

[@missmollyc]

@@ingridespinoza106 I think it’s relevant, because the main point of me saying this was to explain why they’re not the same thing and how it affects people. I’m sorry if it didn’t seem like that.

[@a.g.8025]

Thank you for saying this. It really is frustrating. It's like it's used to soften the blow of being overweight. If they say "I'm curvy", they associate it with Marilyn Monroe, being desirable, sexy, etc.

[@larakriss]

This!⬆️⬆️⬆️

[@faerychains8951]

completely agree and well said!

[@christophermccutcheon2143]

This video helped to highlight a problem I have in my own life... Not obesity, but this thing of dieting and then coming back bigger. I do that with something else, and actually it's made me realise the mistake I'm making. Hopefully I can get out of some bad habits with this knowledge.

[@sarahallenhumboldt2638]

Excellent job; thank you for your energy, time, effort, and commitment to educating us. IMHO, no one becomes that obese, and continues to maintain it, without having experienced, to date, (unresolved) horrific abuse, whether emotional, sexual, or physical minus the sexual aspect. Those people are addicts, just as a heroin addict is; babies and children being totally dependent on them is tragic.

[@mrworldextrawide2815]

After being obese for 15 years, HAES encouraged me to lose weight because I didn't want to be anything like its supporters

[@jennifergeorge7280]

Good on you , keep it up!

[@AspireGMD]

Well you're a man so you wouldn't be accepted anyway.

[@petersumit70]

🤔 interesting

[@no_one_211]

😂🎉

[@amenenema474]

Yep! These fat acceptance/HAES people are super inspirational...just not in the way they think 😂

[@thehardercandy]

I hate how Tess constantly compares being fat to being "a different color". She race baits for sympathy/to make herself look like a virtuous person. You control if you're fat or not, you don't choose the color of your skin. She's extremely manipulative.

[@wehatejojo9302]

I was about to point that out, I noticed it immediately.

[@sweetlikemilkAMSR]

I thought the exact same thing when I saw it

[@rock-ym3uf]

@A Blind M0use you make time to excersise and you adjust your own diet like I did. Solutions not excuse.

[@rock-ym3uf]

@A Blind M0use you don't need time and money to make a healthy lifestyle change just motivation.

[@sarahwild7207]

@A Blind M0use I doubt eating vegetables is that expensive

[@melissasathler3554]

Doctor: “ur dying and u reaallly need to lose weight” Them: “Omg ur so not promoting body positivity”

[@paulor2]

Until this video I didn't know Tess Holliday. This made me happy, not to be exposed to this type of content, but worried to see how there is an underworld of this toxic influence. I was already obese in my post-adolescence and if I had received this type of influence I would not have improved my lifestyle and become a healthy person.

[@anthonyabbett2473]

I weighed 864 lbs at one time but now I'm down to 404 lbs. Being proud of yourself is AWESOME but it's unhealthy. And the weight DOES kill you. Every one wants to be a victim. I'm responsible for the weight I gained and no one else.

[@jeunessehi]

Good for you for losing over 400 lbs! I can’t imagine how difficult that was!

[@Crab_Shanty]

Damn dude! That's impressive!

[@benw4551]

Bruh losing 400 pounds is absolutely crazy. Keep going man!

[@stayawesomeu]

Keep going!! You can do it!

[@Bee19207]

Woahh 400 lbs down! Amazing job, good luck with the rest of your journey

[@samgim4323]

Beauty at every size is true. Health at every size is not.

[@Noutchka]

Actually, being morbidly obese is not beautiful. I disagree. It's unhealthy and ugly.

[@tinywalnut6337]

@@Noutchka Good thing beauty is subjective, huh

[@himanshu89721]

@@tinywalnut6337 most people don't like obese people

[@tinywalnut6337]

@@himanshu89721 Be that as it may, she's not unattractive because Sophie Moron says she is.

[@channell11]

One thing that these people insisting that weight is not related to health have in common is that they are relatively young. Let's revisit them in 20 years when they have joint problems, heart disease, diabetes, etc. You can get away with a lot when you're younger-but it catches up to you.

[@annamelgraceines1331]

I can't fathom how they can deny being obese is harmful.. I'm overweight and I'm worried about my health..